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Skin & Bones
09-18-2006, 02:00 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/453488p-381614c.html

Boy, is Pete Rose sorry.
Baseball's disgraced all-time hit king may have hit an all-time low by signing balls with this shocking inscription: "I'm sorry I bet on baseball - Pete Rose."

Thanks to a New Jersey auction house, you, too, can share in Rose's sorrow. Robert Edward Auctions plans to sell 30 of the baseballs for an expected $1,000 a pop.

"This is where the baseball collectibles field has impact on the history of the game," said Rob Lifson, president of the Watchung-based Robert Edward Auctions. "The collectibles field is not just shadowing the game - it's affecting its history."

It also could dash any hope Rose, who was banned from the sport he loved in 1989 for betting on baseball, has of getting into the Hall of Fame.

The bizarre ball signing marked the latest chapter in the sad saga of a man who was once one of baseball's most revered - and successful - figures.

Rose formally applied for reinstatement in 1997.

Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig extended an olive branch by meeting with him in 2002 to discuss his possible return - a meeting based on Rose's denials that he never bet on the game.

But then Rose became embroiled in a series of incidents in which he was seen gambling at casinos and sports books, and was hit with a lien from the IRS claiming he owed almost $1 million in back taxes.

In 2004, after almost 15 years of denials, Rose did an about-face and admitted in his autobiography "My Prison without Bars" that he bet on the game as a player and manager for the Cincinnati Reds. He repeated his admissions in an interview on ABC's "Primetime."

And now there are these damning baseballs.

Rose's agent Warren Greene and attorney Roger Makley did not return calls from the Daily News. Greene, however, acknowledged to Sports Collectors Digest, a hobby publication, that Rose did sign the balls.

"Pete told me he signed a couple of dozen as a favor to the guys in Cooperstown," Greene is quoted as saying in a story set to appear in Sports Collectors Digest this week.

He was referring to Tom Catal and Andrew Vilacky, two upstate memorabilia dealers who are friendly with Rose and are affiliated with Pete Rose Collectibles and the Pete Rose Museum, a shrine on the third floor of Catal's collectibles store, in Cooperstown. Robert Edward Auctions obtained 30 of the inscribed balls from the estate of Barry Halper, the New Jersey businessman and limited partner in the Yankees who died last year at 66.

Halper is best known for assembling the most extensive sports memorabilia collection in history. Most of his collection was sold in 1999 for $25 million at Sotheby's.

But this year, Halper's family contacted Lifson, who supervised the 1999 sale, about consigning pieces the legendary collector picked up after the historic auction.

"I went out to do an inventory," Lifson said, "and there they [the Pete Rose balls] were in a box."

According to Lifson, Rose approached Halper around the time his book was released in 2004 asking the collector to help him find a way to make money off his memorabilia.

The two then cooked up a plan for the autographed apology balls, Lifson said.

The Halper family believed Rose had signed 300 of the balls, although they are in possession of only 30. The ones Lifson will auction fall between No. 215 and No. 296, and feature the Pete Rose Collectibles insignia above the numbering.

According to Lifson and Sports Collectors Digest reporter T.S. O'Connell, autograph authenticator James Spence has come across several additional balls on the open market. O'Connell said there are "40 to 50" known to exist.

Rose remains a favorite with many fans. But there are a lot autographed Rose items on the market, and supply clearly outstrips demand.

Baseballs with Rose's signature sell for $25 to $50, Lifson said, but he expects the "Confession Balls," as he will label them in the auction, to fetch upward of $1,000 each.

And Lifson will also offer another bit of Rose's history in his auction - his Hall of Fame pass, inscribed with its own plea to Halper: "Barry, I shouldn't need this pass to get into the Hall of Fame, Pete Rose."

"Barry was very good friends with Pete Rose," Lifson said. "His Hall of Fame pass was the kind of thing Barry would keep at his desk and surround himself with and pull out and show people."

KHenry14
09-18-2006, 02:51 PM
I looked up "pathetic" in the dictionary and got this:

http://www.travelgolf.com/images/features/pete-rose-manager.jpg

ivylover
09-18-2006, 04:32 PM
wow...:crazy

Honus Wagner Rules
09-18-2006, 04:35 PM
I looked up "pathetic" in the dictionary and got this:

http://www.travelgolf.com/images/features/pete-rose-manager.jpg
:laugh :laugh

drtybUsch025
09-18-2006, 06:16 PM
I found a similar picture actually.....

Sliding Billy
09-18-2006, 07:27 PM
I think it's kind of droll actually: "You want remorse? I'll sell you remorse!"

geezer
09-18-2006, 07:54 PM
What, he's out of cash again???

KCGHOST
09-18-2006, 07:57 PM
He probably won a bet saying that he would sign that way.

geezer
09-18-2006, 08:16 PM
I bet $100 if I signed baseballs and write also, Im sorry for betting on baseball.

hubkittel
09-18-2006, 08:37 PM
yeah, rose is sorry. he's sorry he's not in the HoF. he's sorry he got caught betting on baseball. he's sorry he's banned from baseball. he's sorry he can't get a job in baseball.

the worst thing that could possible happen to rose is if somehow he got into the HoF. as soon as he gives his speech and gets shunned by the rest of the living hall of famers, he's done. no one will talk about him. no more why isn't rose in the HoF? threads. no more books. no more i'm sorry i bet on baseball autographs. nothing. he'll fade away and live out the rest of his life in obscurity. the ban is what keeps people talking.

RuthMayBond
09-18-2006, 08:49 PM
We know Rose is sorry . . .
. . . but is he contrite? ;) :ughh

Brian McKenna
09-18-2006, 08:50 PM
This is just one more glimpse into the mind of Pete Rose. His actions scream contempt. He has so little respect for other's opinions that he acts in such a fashion as to give the finger to one and all.

I hope in 100 years that if people call for his inclusion in the HOF that some are there that can decipher his personality. Rose thinks he is bigger than the game and be damned all that don't pray at the alter of his achievements. I say we all give that finger right back and say that we see you for who you are and we are not impressed.

geezer
09-18-2006, 09:33 PM
Just another cheap publicity stunt, because Rose is so desperate that the media is no longer talking about him, its a hurt ego situation as well.

Do anybody thinks that Rose is sorry for betting on baseball?

Sorry because Giamatti and Dowd busted him up, that for sure.

YankeeDJW
09-18-2006, 10:01 PM
I don't know what he wants more: money or a spot in the HoF...

BigStellyPADRES4LIFE
09-18-2006, 11:30 PM
OK While Rose may have had some character flaws..... he was still a great player and I think that gets overlooked alot by many people. Same thing with Bonds.

drtybUsch025
09-19-2006, 05:59 AM
You think Bonds is over looked? I think he is overrated weither he took 'oids or not.

Mattingly
09-19-2006, 08:37 AM
yeah, rose is sorry. he's sorry he's not in the HoF. he's sorry he got caught betting on baseball. he's sorry he's banned from baseball. he's sorry he can't get a job in baseball.

the worst thing that could possible happen to rose is if somehow he got into the HoF. as soon as he gives his speech and gets shunned by the rest of the living hall of famers, he's done. no one will talk about him. no more why isn't rose in the HoF? threads. no more books. no more i'm sorry i bet on baseball autographs. nothing. he'll fade away and live out the rest of his life in obscurity. the ban is what keeps people talking.
I'm wondering if there's room for a 1-900-i'm-in-cooperstown-now-pay-me.com website.

I figured it was all about money, as he'd command higher speaking fees if he were in Cooperstown, and his personally sold items would go for more if he were enshrined.

As is $30,000 won't get him very far. He'd be better off buying lottery tickets, preferably powerball.

Personally, I think he's either gonged himself or dropped his stock down a few notches. The stomachs of snails wave hello to Pete right now, with subterranean species waiting for his next move.

:waving

bluezebra
09-19-2006, 09:57 AM
So Rose is not only a gambler and a liar, he's also a wh*re.

Bob

Mike D.
09-19-2006, 01:33 PM
I figured it was all about money, as he'd command higher speaking fees if he were in Cooperstown, and his personally sold items would go for more if he were enshrined.

That's certainly not true. Nobody's paying $1,000 a pop for autographs of Hank Aar (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=aaronha01)on, Willie Mays, or even Stan Musial. If Rose joins the HOF, he's just another guy. But right now, he's the squeaky wheeled "martyr".