They have the same name

[janduscframe]

Pitcher A won 20 once
Pitcher B won 20 twice
Pitcher A lost 20 once
Pitcher B lost 20 twice
Both pitchers topped the league in shutouts once.
Pitcher A finished just over 500 in his career with a bit over 100 wins
Pitcher B finished just over 500 in his career with over 200 wins
Pitcher A and Pitcher B were born in the same state.

They have the same first and last name.

[Honus Wagner]

Sad and Toothpick Sam Jones

[janduscframe]

Right on...:waving

[RuthMayBond]

Reminds me of these two guys with the same name:
Both are pitchers
Both were born near the ocean
Both batted righty and were drafted within a year of each other
Twice these guys ended up on the same team
Both won at least six games twice

[Honus Wagner]

Greg Harris?

[RuthMayBond]

Greg Harris?Good guess, yet incorrect

[s.f.]

Greg Harris?

Hah. That was my first thought, too. And the Jeff Robinsons. But neither pair meet all the criteria. I'm still thinkin'

[Honus Wagner]

it's probably not Moe Drabowsky

[Utter Chaos]

How about Bobby Jones? I know they were both on the Mets and I think they were both on the Padres as well.

[s.f.]

Yay, I may have found them, assuming that Fresno is "close to the ocean." It isn't, but the rest of the clues line up to the point that I hafta believe I have the right answer.

EDIT: And now I see that I'm second to the answer.

[s.f.]

it's probably not Moe Drabowsky

There was only one Moe, but here's a couple of name's-the-same who aren't named Jones, Smith, Williams or Brown or anything else common:

First pair
One an infielder, primarily Cubs
The other born a decade later was a pitcher, primarily A's

Second pair, and this one is tougher in that the major league time for both was brief:

One is an infielder for the Orioles
The other was a catcher for the Pirates and another team, too.
Although this pair were born within a year of each other, they were not major leaguers at the same time

[RuthMayBond]

How about Bobby Jones? I know they were both on the Mets and I think they were both on the Padres as well.You go, UC :clapping

[Utter Chaos]

First pair
One an infielder, primarily Cubs
The other born a decade later was a pitcher, primarily A'sSteve Ontiveros

[Utter Chaos]

Second pair, and this one is tougher in that the major league time for both was brief:

One is an infielder for the Orioles
The other was a catcher for the Pirates and another team, too.
Although this pair were born within a year of each other, they were not major leaguers at the same timeSince the two Earl Smiths were born 4 years apart it must be Don Leppert


EDIT: How the heck did Don Leppert make the All Star team in 1963? 73 Games, 211 At Bats, 6 HR, 24 RBI, .237 Average

[janduscframe]

And of course Hall of Fame pitcher Bob Gibson and Brewer mop up man Bob Gibson.

[s.f.]

Steve Ontiveros and Don Leppert were indeed the answers, UC. I find it interesting that two players could share such distinctive (i.e., not Smith, Jones, etc.) names.

[s.f.]

Here's two more pairs:

The first two played against each other in a Marlins-Pirates game on Sept. 8, 2002 (see if you can answer without going to retrosheet).

The second two were All-Stars in the same season in the past 20 years. Some may object to their being included in this category.

[Bukanier]

The first two played against each other in a Marlins-Pirates game on Sept. 8, 2002 (see if you can answer without going to retrosheet).
Abraham Nunez?

[s.f.]

Correct, Buk

[janduscframe]

How about the two catchers born 6 months apart. They started their big league careers one year apart. For part of one season these same named catchers were playing in the same state.

[s.f.]

Sounds like Hal Smith and Hal Smith. Pirates' Hal Smith hit a huge home run preceding Mazeroski's. Cardinals' Hal Smith's career was just starting to take off when a heart ailment sidelined him.

[RuthMayBond]

These big hulks generally didn't play the most challenging defensive positions. They both hit at least 25 HR six times and knocked in at least 950 in their careers. They each played exclusively in one league, and did play in the same city but not at the same time. They both batted and threw righty.

[soberdennis]

Player A was 0-3 in three with the A's during WW2.
Player B was a fine reliever with various teams in the 50's, 60's, and early 70's
Who are these same named pitchers.

[RuthMayBond]

These guys both played "in the infield". They both played for the same West Coast team but not at the same time, because the year the one finished, the other one started (post 1961). One of them set an endurance-type record for one season. While one wasn't known to be controversial, one was, including a college incident.

[s.f.]

These big hulks generally didn't play the most challenging defensive positions. They both hit at least 25 HR six times and knocked in at least 950 in their careers. They each played exclusively in one league, and did play in the same city but not at the same time. They both batted and threw righty.

Gotta be Frank Thomas

[RuthMayBond]

Gotta be Frank ThomasYou gotta be right :clapping

[s.f.]

Player A was 0-3 in three with the A's during WW2.
Player B was a fine reliever with various teams in the 50's, 60's, and early 70's
Who are these same named pitchers.

Had to look it up, so I won't post the answer. Thought you were wrong about them having the same name, but on closer inspection, you were right.

Speaking of pitchers who had a career that started in the '50s and lasted until the '70s, there's another one who had a teammate with the same name on one of the more famous teams of the last half-century. Or should I say infamous.

[Utter Chaos]

Player A was 0-3 in three with the A's during WW2.
Player B was a fine reliever with various teams in the 50's, 60's, and early 70's
Who are these same named pitchers.And they were both born in North Carolina, Talmadge and Theodore Abernathy aka Ted Abernathy.

[RuthMayBond]

Both were pretty good old-timers. They both batted and threw righty. They played in the same city twice. Both played easier defensive positions and led their league in different offensive categories several times. One did win an important award. Get it right because close but no cigar doesn't count. Good night.

[soberdennis]

And they were both born in North Carolina, Talmadge and Theodore Abernathy aka Ted Abernathy.
Corect.....

[RuthMayBond]

These recent guys were both All-Stars and again both played in the "infield".
They were both drafted by east coast teams and debuted within about a year of each other (although one was clearly better). They both batted and threw righty. One only played for two teams, and the other played for both these same teams. They would have made a good matching pair. Don't go technical on me and tell me they didn't have the EXACT same names ;)

[RuthMayBond]

They were both fairly recent guys, although one was by necessity more recent. They were both outfielders with at least fairly good production, but one is definitely more well-known than the other. They did play together on the same team, which is more amazing than it sounds.

[s.f.]

They were both fairly recent guys, although one was by necessity more recent. They were both outfielders with at least fairly good production, but one is definitely more well-known than the other. They did play together on the same team, which is more amazing than it sounds.

Ken Griffey pere and fils?

[RuthMayBond]

Ken Griffey pere and fils?You are more than just a junior when it comes to solving these :clapping

[s.f.]

Player A is a rhp who was a No. 1 draft pick (first round, that is; not No. 1 overall).

Player B is a rhp who won a major award while playing for the same team that had picked Player A in the first round.

Don't go technical on me and tell me they didn't have the same EXACT name.

[candy curveball cummings]

Player A is a rhp who was a No. 1 draft pick (first round, that is; not No. 1 overall).

Player B is a rhp who won a major award while playing for the same team that had picked Player A in the first round.

Don't go technical on me and tell me they didn't have the same EXACT name.


Chris and Cris Carpenter

[RuthMayBond]

Player A is a rhp who was a No. 1 draft pick (first round, that is; not No. 1 overall).

Player B is a rhp who won a major award while playing for the same team that had picked Player A in the first round.

Don't go technical on me and tell me they didn't have the same EXACT name.The Bob Gibsons?

[s.f.]

Chris and Cris Carpenter

That's the answer.

[s.f.]

These recent guys were both All-Stars and again both played in the "infield".
They were both drafted by east coast teams and debuted within about a year of each other (although one was clearly better). They both batted and threw righty. One only played for two teams, and the other played for both these same teams. They would have made a good matching pair. Don't go technical on me and tell me they didn't have the EXACT same names ;)

I'm a moron. I thought about this long and hard and just now realized that it must be the same pair I had in mind yesterday when I posted:

The second two were All-Stars in the same season in the past 20 years. Some may object to their being included in this category.


Gotta be Greg and Gregg Olson, who were both All-Stars in 1990.

[RuthMayBond]

I'm a moron. I thought about this long and hard and just now realized that it must be the same pair I had in mind yesterday when I posted:




Gotta be Greg and Gregg Olson, who were both All-Stars in 1990.You're a VERY smart "moron"

[Utter Chaos]

This team had 3 different players with the same name play for them at one time or another within an 18 year period. Who is the team and what are the player's name?

[Redlightning]

Player A was 0-3 in three with the A's during WW2.
Player B was a fine reliever with various teams in the 50's, 60's, and early 70's
Who are these same named pitchers.
Joe Coleman?