BBF Red Sox Hall of Fame [Archive]

Erik Bedard

09-16-2006, 06:18 AM

Welcome to the BBF Red Sox Hall of Fame.

Here are the rules:

Anyone who posts regularly in the Red Sox forum is welcome to vote.

We will elect two members every week until we start electing guys who have no place.

Vote based on each player's contribution to the Red Sox as a player. Only vote based on their time with the Red Sox. e.g. we should not see Babe Ruth first place on the first ballot.

Name five players on each ballot who you would like to elect. Points will be set up like this:

First place: 15
Second place: 12
Third place: 8
Fourth place: 4
Fifth place: 1

PLAYERS INDUCTED

Ted Williams
Carl Yastrzemski
Cy Young
Roger Clemens
Jimmie Foxx
Wade Boggs
Pedro Martinez
Bobby Doerr
Carlton Fisk
Tris Speaker

-Kyle-

09-16-2006, 06:55 AM

1. Ted Williams
2. Carl Yaz
3. Tris Speaker
4. Cy Young
5. Joe Cronin

BTW, can we discuss our picks here?

Williamsburg2599

09-16-2006, 07:52 AM

1.Ted Williams
2.Yaz
3.Cy Young
4.Jimmie Fox
5.Tris Speaker

DoubleX

09-16-2006, 08:37 AM

1. Ted Williams
2. Carl Yastrzemski
3. Roger Clemens
4. Cy Young
5. Wade Boggs

Two questions...

1) Are active players eligible?

2) Will there be a separate contributors ballot?

Mariano_Rivera

09-16-2006, 08:45 AM

1. Ted Williams
2. Carl Yastrzemski
3. Cy Young
4. Wade Boggs
5. Joe Cronin

Two questions...

1) Are active players eligible?

2) Will there be a separate contributors ballot?
1) Ted Williams
2)Carl Yastremski
3)Cy Young
4)Carlton Fisk
5)Theo Epstein

EvanAparra

09-16-2006, 09:34 AM

1. Ted Williams
2. Carl Yaztzremski
3. Roger Clemens
4. Wade Boggs
5. Pedro Martinez

EDITED

Erik Bedard

09-16-2006, 11:11 AM

Two questions...

1) Are active players eligible?

2) Will there be a separate contributors ballot?

1) Yes.

2) Afterwards.

Evan, please revise your ballot.

1. Williams
2. Yastrzemski
3. Boggs
4. C. Young
5. Clemens

Francoeurstein

09-16-2006, 11:30 AM

1. Williams
2. Clemens
3. Boggs
4. Yaz
5. Young

PhilWings24

09-16-2006, 11:42 AM

1. Williams
2. Pedro
3. Yaz
4. Clemens
5. Cy Young

DoubleX

09-16-2006, 11:46 AM

1) Yes.

2) Afterwards.

Evan, please revise your ballot.

1. Williams
2. Yastrzemski
3. Boggs
4. C. Young
5. Cronin

I revised my ballot to take into account active players.

Honus Wagner

09-16-2006, 12:20 PM

1. Williams
2. Foxx
3. Young
4. Yaz
5. Clemens

Mariano_Rivera

09-16-2006, 06:04 PM

1) Yes.

2) Afterwards.

Evan, please revise your ballot.

1. Williams
2. Yastrzemski
3. Boggs
4. C. Young
5. Clemens
Does this mean that i can`t vote for Epstein?

Erik Bedard

09-16-2006, 06:09 PM

Not yet you can't.

-Kyle-

09-16-2006, 07:25 PM

Williams and Yaz seem the auto-winners now. Why only two per month?

Erik Bedard

09-18-2006, 04:21 AM

1. Williams
2. Foxx
3. Young
4. Yaz
5. Clemens

Remember, this is only based on their contribution to the Red Sox, not their entire career.

Erik Bedard

09-18-2006, 04:21 AM

Williams and Yaz seem the auto-winners now. Why only two per month?

Should I make it three?

Honus Wagner

09-18-2006, 06:05 AM

Remember, this is only based on their contribution to the Red Sox, not their entire career.

understood

Solair Wright

09-18-2006, 06:21 AM

I'll go with:

1. Ted Williams
2. Jimmie Foxx
3. Carl Yastrzemski
4. Jim Rice (played his entire career with the Sox, also played in the 1986 World Series, though he missed the 1975 WS)
5. Roger Clemens (netted a pennant with teammate Rice, and won the Cy Young a few times in Beantown)

maximum jack

09-18-2006, 11:27 AM

1. Williams
2. Yaz
3. Young
4. Foxx
5. Doerr

SDL

09-18-2006, 11:48 AM

1. Ted

2. Yaz

3. Jim Ed Rice (Dammit BBWWAA...GET HIM IN COOPERSTOWN NOW!)

4. Dom DiMaggio (Best OF to not be in Cooperstown...Ted said so)

5. Tony C, (What might have been...)

Dalkowski110

09-19-2006, 02:34 PM

1. Ted Williams
2. Carl Yastrzemski
3. Wade Boggs
4. Joe Cronin
5. Pedro Martinez

Erik Bedard

09-19-2006, 04:51 PM

Balloting closes early this month, as it's the first month. Just lettin' everybody know. ;)

Also, Annie, SoxSon, or Flash, could this be stickied?

Mariano_Rivera

09-21-2006, 03:35 AM

Not yet you can't.
Okay, thanks. Revised ballot.

1)Ted Williams
2)Carl Yastremski
3)Cy Young
4)Carlton Fisk
5)Pedro Martinez

-Kyle-

09-21-2006, 01:23 PM

Are you making a thread for discussing this as well?

Erik Bedard

09-21-2006, 06:37 PM

No; there can be discussing in other threads. If someone wants to create it; that's fine, but it won't be affiliated with me and this thread.

Honus Wagner

09-25-2006, 08:21 PM

Ted - perfect 195 pts
Yaz -132 pts
Young - 46 pts
Clemens - 35 pts
Foxx - 32 pts
Boggs - 29 pts

Erik Bedard

09-26-2006, 04:25 AM

Ballotting is open for another five days. Could Annie, Flash or SoxSon please sticky this?

SoxSon

09-26-2006, 03:37 PM

Temporarily stickied, Erik.

Erik Bedard

09-27-2006, 01:34 PM

Thanks!

OK, I guess everyone who wants to vote already has. Barring any objections, I'll go back and edit the first post to show that Ted and Yaz are inducted.

Erik Bedard

10-01-2006, 06:30 AM

October balloting is now open. Vote for anyone you like, except Ted or Yaz. Same format applies.

maximum jack

10-01-2006, 07:13 AM

1. Boggs
2. C. Young
3. Clemens
4. Foxx
5. Doerr

Honus Wagner

10-01-2006, 09:44 AM

1. Cy Young
2. Clemens
3. Foxx
4. Speaker
5. Ruth

SDL

10-01-2006, 09:49 AM

Rice
Tony C
Petrocelli
Pesky
Doerr

Erik Bedard

10-01-2006, 11:09 AM

Whoops, forgot to add my ballot. :o

1. Boggs
2. C. Young
3. Doerr
4. Clemens
5. Foxx

Elections will now take place every two weeks.

Redlightning

10-01-2006, 01:54 PM

1: Clemens
2: Boggs
3: Cy Young
4: Jim Rice
5: Foxx

EvanAparra

10-01-2006, 01:56 PM

1. Petrocelli
2. Doerr
3. Grove
4. Foxx
5. Rice

SoxSon

10-04-2006, 01:57 PM

Ballotting is open for another five days. Could Annie, Flash or SoxSon please sticky this?

Five days have passed, Eric. I'm noticing that no one has posted here in three days. What now?

Erik Bedard

10-05-2006, 01:16 PM

On Sunday, the next week of ballotting goes up, since I guess everyone's voted who will.

SoxSon

10-05-2006, 01:45 PM

On Sunday, the next week of ballotting goes up, since I guess everyone's voted who will.

Gotcha. I never take part in these things, so I had no idea. Thanks.

-Kyle-

10-05-2006, 03:11 PM

Everyone seems to forget Cronin (I know few people actually saw him)... and puts Rice in his place? :noidea

1: Clemens
2: Boggs
3: Cy Young
4: Cronin
5: Doerr

EvanAparra

10-05-2006, 03:57 PM

I just flat out dont like Cronin. Im a big Peewee Reese fan, and Cronin is the reason he didnt stay in Boston.

Erik Bedard

10-05-2006, 04:03 PM

Come on, it's supposed to be based on how they did as a player, not management! We can dis-elect Lou Boudreau and Joe Cronin later!

EvanAparra

10-05-2006, 04:27 PM

I just dont like the guy, period. I'm sure he'll get in without my vote, but he wont get in with my vote.

And he made Reese leave when he was a player, because he didnt want Reese to take his job.

KenFougere

10-05-2006, 06:12 PM

Cy Young
Roger Clemens
Jim Rice
Carlton Fisk
Dwight Evans

Erik Bedard

10-06-2006, 06:14 PM

Ballotting is open until Sunday, at which time the next week of ballotting will begin.

This week's totals thus far:

Cy Young..............85
Roger Clemens......66
Wade Boggs.........52
Jimmie Foxx.........44
Jim Rice..............32
Bobby Doerr.........23
Rico Petrocelli.......23
Tony Conigliaro.....12
Lefty Grove..........8
Carlton Fisk..........5
Tris Speaker.........4
Johnny Pesky........4
Joe Cronin............4
Dwight Evans........1
Babe Ruth............1

edited to include TheKingofKings' ballot

TheKingofKings

10-06-2006, 06:24 PM

1. Cy Young
2. Jimmy Foxx
3. Wade Boggs
4. Jim Rice
5. Carlton Fisk

-Kyle-

10-07-2006, 05:59 PM

Come on, it's supposed to be based on how they did as a player, not management! We can dis-elect Lou Boudreau and Joe Cronin later!
Sorry, :ughh . I thought he had his entire career with the Red Sox, when he played for the Senators a bit before. Not as valuable to the Red Sox as I thought.

Erik Bedard

10-07-2006, 06:27 PM

Hey, Cronin's going to be on my next ballot. So's Rice. Both excellent players, just Cronin has been downgraded in most people's minds because of his inablity to manage or play defense.

Charger567

10-07-2006, 06:35 PM

Roger Clemens

Cy Young

Boggs

Evans

Carlton Fisk

I really don't think Johnny Pesky should be up there..

-Kyle-

10-09-2006, 03:43 PM

Its Monday....

Erik Bedard

10-10-2006, 01:21 PM

Yes, yes, I know, go ahead and vote already.

NOTE: I was going to say it Monday morning, but I forgot.

Erik Bedard

10-11-2006, 02:32 PM

Fine, since nobody else feels like voting, I'll go first:

1. Boggs
2. Doerr
3. Foxx
4. Cronin
5. Rice

EvanAparra

10-11-2006, 02:38 PM

1. Pedro Martinez
2. Petrocelli
3. Doerr
4. Grove
5. Foxx

-Kyle-

10-11-2006, 03:19 PM

Wade Boggs
Tris Speaker
Pedro Martinez
Joe Cronin
Jimmie Foxx

maximum jack

10-11-2006, 03:43 PM

1. Boggs
2. Foxx
3. Doerr
4. Rice
5. Dewey

SDL

10-11-2006, 06:16 PM

1. Jim Ed Rice
2. Rico Petrocelli
3. Tony Conigliaro
4. Mel Parnell
5. Luis Tiant

EvanAparra

10-11-2006, 06:20 PM

2. Rico Petrocelli

:clapping :clapping :clapping

Erik Bedard

10-12-2006, 12:46 PM

:clapping :clapping :clapping
Not quite yet, IMO.

EvanAparra

10-12-2006, 12:47 PM

Not quite yet, IMO.

Its doesn't totally have to do with his playing career.

Erik Bedard

10-12-2006, 01:00 PM

Yes, yes, but this election DOES totally have to do with his playing career. And there was another infielder for the Sox who was as good, if not better than Rico IMO: Frank Malzone.

EvanAparra

10-12-2006, 01:17 PM

I meant his actual hitting and fielding... I liked him for his intangibles, being a good teammate and such.

Erik Bedard

10-12-2006, 01:46 PM

So you would downgrade Ted Williams based on his being a total jerk?

EvanAparra

10-12-2006, 01:49 PM

So you would downgrade Ted Williams based on his being a total jerk?

Of course... But to take him off my ballot, he would have needed to be as big a jerk as Hitler.

Honus Wagner

10-12-2006, 08:37 PM

ballot 3

foxx
fisk
pedro
boggs
rice

Erik Bedard

10-13-2006, 04:55 AM

OK, just don't downgrade (or upgrade) people based on their ability (or inability) to manage a team. i.e. Joe Cronin and Johnny Pesky.

runningshoes

10-13-2006, 05:13 AM

Fisk
Speaker
Boggs
Grove
Stanley

SDL

10-13-2006, 06:16 AM

Yes, yes, but this election DOES totally have to do with his playing career. And there was another infielder for the Sox who was as good, if not better than Rico IMO: Frank Malzone.

Malzone..now you're talking. But remember that he was at 3rd while Rico came up at SS...and they released Malzone to make room for Foy.

Erik Bedard

10-13-2006, 07:08 AM

Fisk
Speaker
Boggs
Young
Stanley

Young has already been elected, please revise.

Erik Bedard

10-18-2006, 10:13 AM

Sorry I'm late, go ahead and vote again now.

Elected last week, in our closest election yet:

Wade Boggs and Jimmie Foxx!

Boggs wound up with 57 points, Foxx with 37, closely trailed by Pedro Martinez (31), Bobby Doerr (28) and Carlton Fisk (27). Other notables were Rico Petrocelli (24), Tris Speaker (24), and Rico Petrocelli (20).

Erik Bedard

10-18-2006, 10:26 AM

1. Doerr
2. Cronin
3. Rice
4. Martinez
5. Evans

Honus Wagner

10-18-2006, 10:38 AM

Honus Wagner

10-18-2006, 10:40 AM

ballot 4

1. Fisk
2. Pedro
3. Rice
4. Speaker
5. Ruth

EvanAparra

10-18-2006, 11:57 AM

1. Rico Petrocelli
2. Pedro Martinez
3. Bobby Doerr
4. Tris Speaker
5. Lefty Grove

Erik Bedard

10-23-2006, 04:38 AM

OK, I'm adding in a consummate ballot from the last election, which looks like this:

1. Martinez
2. Doerr
3. Fisk
4. Petrocelli
T4. Speaker

Erik Bedard

10-23-2006, 04:45 AM

Martinez...........39
Doerr...............35
Fisk.................23
Petrocelli..........19
Rice.................16
Cronin..............12
Speaker............12
Evans................1
Grove................1
Ruth..................1

Pedro Martinez and Bobby Doerr are elected!

Erik Bedard

10-23-2006, 04:47 AM

1. Fisk
2. Rice
3. Cronin
4. Speaker
5. Malzone

runningshoes

10-23-2006, 04:48 AM

When does voting for the next round start?

Erik Bedard

10-23-2006, 07:04 AM

Ten and a half hours ago.

runningshoes

10-23-2006, 07:40 AM

Guess I'll have to work on my tenses, eh?

runningshoes

10-23-2006, 07:42 AM

Fisk
Speaker
Petrocelli
Grove
Stanley

Honus Wagner

10-23-2006, 09:08 AM

Ballot 5:
Fisk
Speaker
Ruth
Grove
Wood

Erik Bedard

10-27-2006, 02:51 PM

bump...

Two more days left.

-Kyle-

10-30-2006, 05:55 PM

3 days past.

Erik Bedard

10-30-2006, 06:04 PM

I'll extend it another week, in case people want to vote.

-Kyle-

10-30-2006, 06:15 PM

1. Fisk
2. Dwight Evans
3. Cronin
4. Speaker
5. Jim Rice

Erik Bedard

11-08-2006, 02:58 PM

Is anyone still interested? Because I'm about to declare this project officially dead.

-Kyle-

11-08-2006, 03:34 PM

Right Here. :waving

SDL

11-08-2006, 11:32 PM

I second that

Erik Bedard

11-09-2006, 01:15 PM

SDL, then you'd better get your ballot in!

SDL

11-09-2006, 01:58 PM

Fisk
Evans
Tony C.
Jim Rice
Luis Tiant

runningshoes

11-09-2006, 02:34 PM

I voted in this last round. I'm just waiting for the results of that one so we can move on.

Erik Bedard

11-10-2006, 04:24 AM

Fisk is in, with a perfect score. I'll add up the rest later.

Erik Bedard

11-13-2006, 05:06 AM

Cronin has 16, Speaker 32, Rice 17, Malzone, Stanley, Tiant, and Wood all have 1, Grove, Ruth, Petrocelli, and Conigliaro all have 8, and Evans has 24.

Congratulations to Carlton Fisk and Tris Speaker, the 9th and 10th inductees to the BBF Red Sox Hall of Fame!