High School Mound? [Archive]

EdmondsFan#1

09-10-2006, 02:02 PM

Does anyone know if high school mounds are 46 ft away or the MLB 60ft6in away?

I was in the cages today and i went into like 70 mph and i was wondering why i couldn't hit it and i found out it was only 41 ft away from the plate... So would high school be about 60 ft away or do i just suck at batting?

Williamsburg2599

09-10-2006, 02:04 PM

60 ft 6 in, at least where Im from.

EdmondsFan#1

09-10-2006, 02:05 PM

Yeah that's what i was hoping :) , we have a 400 ft center in my junior high school (that used to be a high school) so i figured the mound would be 60 ft.

CanadianKid

09-10-2006, 02:05 PM

Yupp 60ft 6in. Everything's MLB size although fence distances vary.

PullFactor

09-10-2006, 02:48 PM

Everything's MLB size although fence distances vary.
Yep, as they do in the MLB. It's pretty much official ball.

Jake Patterson

09-10-2006, 03:28 PM

paul5150

09-10-2006, 05:38 PM

although, no offense, if you are playing in highschool you should be able to hit in a batting cage at 70mph.

EdmondsFan#1

09-10-2006, 05:50 PM

although, no offense, if you are playing in highschool you should be able to hit in a batting cage at 70mph.

I'm not in high school, i'm 13 and just started in 8th grade.

Last year i was able to hit 7 out of 8 pitches in the 75 mph batting machine, it's not the speed that gets me that thing locates @_@. Jeez, today it was hitting inside, outside, not a strike, one was very close to beaning me if i didn't get out the way, and there was like high and away. and last year it used to be right down the middle, i'm not sure if the company made the machines that way unpurpose or if it was accidents.

PullFactor

09-10-2006, 05:58 PM

I'm not in high school, i'm 13 and just started in 8th grade.

Last year i was able to hit 7 out of 8 pitches in the 75 mph batting machine, it's not the speed that gets me that thing locates @_@. Jeez, today it was hitting inside, outside, not a strike, one was very close to beaning me if i didn't get out the way, and there was like high and away. and last year it used to be right down the middle, i'm not sure if the company made the machines that way unpurpose or if it was accidents.
Or that they don't care about your safety and haven't done maintenance on the machine in years.
I don't see paul's problem. 70 MPH from 41 is faster than pretty much anything you'll see, although yes, you SHOULD be able to knock at a lot of them, it's not always the case, and that wasn't the point of your post anyways.

EdmondsFan#1

09-10-2006, 06:22 PM

Yeah i really don't think they care about safety because there are usually no workers around the cages and you are able to walk in them... And, i forgot when, but one ball hit me in the hand -:noidea

paul5150

09-10-2006, 06:52 PM

EdmondsFan#1

09-10-2006, 07:42 PM

Oh your 13 i thought you were like 16 or 17. Well no matter how fast it is, if its in a cage, coming in the same place over and over, its not hard to hit. I have a batting cage at my house and i cant crank it up to 95 MPH, and...yes i can barely see it but i can get used to it and still hit it after a while.

That's what i'm trying to say in one of my recent posts is that it's not in the same place, it's going fast and the only times it would go down the middle at all is at ankle length :rolleyes: . And alot of the pitches weren't even going over the plate.

Richmond Hill Phoenix

09-10-2006, 08:06 PM

I was in the cages today and i went into like 70 mph and i was wondering why i couldn't hit it and i found out it was only 41 ft away from the plate... So would high school be about 60 ft away or do i just suck at batting?

Here's the deal on batting cages. If a ball comes at you at 70 mph from 60'6", it takes roughly 0.59 seconds to arrive. In the cages, they try to get the same reaction time. So if they say that a ball's coming in at 70 mph, it's really coming in at around 47.38... mph. It simply means that you have the same reaction time at 41 feet as you would on a 70 mph pitch from 60'6". Try using a gun on it.

On the side of maintainance, the place near my house never fixes the macines, and never replaces the balls. This makes every trip into the cages a life-in-hands experience. There's a place with new machines about 30 minutes away, but it's too far to drive in my opinion. Hopefully someone gets nailed by a pitch, and that forces them to splurge on some new balls.

EdmondsFan#1

09-10-2006, 08:22 PM

Here's the deal on batting cages. If a ball comes at you at 70 mph from 60'6", it takes roughly 0.59 seconds to arrive. In the cages, they try to get the same reaction time. So if they say that a ball's coming in at 70 mph, it's really coming in at around 47.38... mph. It simply means that you have the same reaction time at 41 feet as you would on a 70 mph pitch from 60'6". Try using a gun on it.

On the side of maintainance, the place near my house never fixes the macines, and never replaces the balls. This makes every trip into the cages a life-in-hands experience. There's a place with new machines about 30 minutes away, but it's too far to drive in my opinion. Hopefully someone gets nailed by a pitch, and that forces them to splurge on some new balls.

No trust me the thing is not coming at 47.38. I saw a 12 year old in my baseball camp who could throw 61 mph (clocked in the camp) and the kid had a gun but it was still much slower than the cages were.

ohms_law

09-10-2006, 09:32 PM

Who was letting a 12 year old throw 60+ MPH pitches? I hope it was only a couple, just to show that he could.

EdmondsFan#1

09-11-2006, 06:30 AM

Who was letting a 12 year old throw 60+ MPH pitches? I hope it was only a couple, just to show that he could.

at the camp there was catchers and they were gunning what everyone could throw and the kid was in my group and his lowest was 59. It was about 10 or so.

ohms_law

09-11-2006, 09:24 AM

That just surprised me is all. Someone feel free to correct me if i'm obviously wrong here, but I thought that current common wisdom was to not allow young pitchers to throw hard until their at least 16 or 17?

Arm health being the concern that it is these days, that's what I've heard at least.

jbooth

09-11-2006, 09:24 AM

Who was letting a 12 year old throw 60+ MPH pitches? I hope it was only a couple, just to show that he could.

This is a strange statement. 80% of 12 year-olds who are the number 1 or number 2 pitcher on their team, throw 60+.

Most 12 year-old pitchers throw 56 - 60 mph. The better ones throw 60 - 65 and the top all-stars throw 65 - 70. Some rare, talented kids throw 70+.

Basically, 60+ is a pretty good pitcher for your regular season team, it isn't great, but it's good enough. The further you get, below 60, at age 12,the less chance the player should even be pitching for you.

ohms_law

09-11-2006, 09:36 AM

ok, good to know. being in my 30's now, and with a son that's only 6 right now, I wasn't sure what the current expectations are, is all.

jbooth

09-11-2006, 08:40 PM

ok, good to know. being in my 30's now, and with a son that's only 6 right now, I wasn't sure what the current expectations are, is all.

I think you're confusing speed with number of pitches. A 12 year-old shouldn't throw too many pitches in a game. 60 to 70 is plenty, but they should always try to throw hard. It isn't the speed of the pitch that is a problem, it is the number of pitches thrown, that can be a problem.

EdmondsFan#1

09-11-2006, 08:48 PM

Honestly, if the pitcher was a pitcher for 3-4 years or more it should be simple for him to throw 60. My first year of pitching and i bet i could throw over 60, but i'm not sure my mechanics aren't very good because alot of the "rotating hips" feels uncomfortable for me.

ohms_law

09-11-2006, 10:11 PM

I think you're confusing speed with number of pitches. A 12 year-old shouldn't throw too many pitches in a game. 60 to 70 is plenty, but they should always try to throw hard. It isn't the speed of the pitch that is a problem, it is the number of pitches thrown, that can be a problem.
You're correct, of course. Thanks, very helpfull.

bbjunkie

09-12-2006, 05:32 AM

This is a strange statement. 80% of 12 year-olds who are the number 1 or number 2 pitcher on their team, throw 60+.

Most 12 year-old pitchers throw 56 - 60 mph. The better ones throw 60 - 65 and the top all-stars throw 65 - 70. Some rare, talented kids throw 70+.

Basically, 60+ is a pretty good pitcher for your regular season team, it isn't great, but it's good enough. The further you get, below 60, at age 12,the less chance the player should even be pitching for you.
Agreed. As I wrote earlier my son at 12 throws in the low 60's and he was the second fastest pitcher on his LL team this year. The fastest throws in the low 70's, but he is 5'8" and over 160#, a manchild.

I think you're confusing speed with number of pitches. A 12 year-old shouldn't throw too many pitches in a game. 60 to 70 is plenty, but they should always try to throw hard. It isn't the speed of the pitch that is a problem, it is the number of pitches thrown, that can be a problem.
The LL pitch count program puts an upper limit at 85 pitches per game. I think they are a bit conservative, but the principle is sound. There are too many coaches out there who don't have a clue.

CanadianKid

09-12-2006, 05:36 AM

The fastest throws in the low 70's, but he is 5'8" and over 160#, a manchild.

Holy that really is a manchild. I'm 16 and 6"0 and 175pounds:laugh

EdmondsFan#1

09-12-2006, 08:51 PM

I know a kid that is 13 and he used to be my best friend and he was throwing 64 mph at 10 years old and now i think he throws upper 70's.

He is 6'1'' 160 lbs he is a stud :coffee

Richmond Hill Phoenix

09-12-2006, 09:02 PM

Well. This thread seems to have turned into a brag-about-your-friend-who-can-throw-90 kind of deal...

Charger567

09-14-2006, 09:42 PM

Something about the cages:

70 MPH from 41 Ft is about 100+ MPH reaction time..

I remember 75 from 46 feet being over 100 mph from the LLWS.

EdmondsFan#1

09-15-2006, 04:29 PM

Something about the cages:

70 MPH from 41 Ft is about 100+ MPH reaction time..

I remember 75 from 46 feet being over 100 mph from the LLWS.

no, 75 from 46 ft was like 96...

I heard there was a japanese kid who threw like, 80's which equaled like 107... That's crazy.

jbooth

09-15-2006, 07:54 PM

no, 75 from 46 ft was like 96...

Actually, 75 from 46 is like 98.641

60.5/46 = 1.315

75 * 1.315 = 98.641

EdmondsFan#1

09-15-2006, 08:57 PM

Actually, 75 from 46 is like 98.641

60.5/46 = 1.315

75 * 1.315 = 98.641

Whoa.

So basically, if i got hit by a 75 mph pitch from 41 ft would it hurt like a 100 mph fastball from 60ft?

Richmond Hill Phoenix

09-15-2006, 11:58 PM

No. These calculations are based on reaction time.

jbooth

09-16-2006, 07:46 AM

Whoa.

So basically, if i got hit by a 75 mph pitch from 41 ft would it hurt like a 100 mph fastball from 60ft?

No. It just means that if you release two pitches at exactly the same time, one from 60 feet and the other from 46, and the one from 46 is going 75mph, then the one from 60 feet must go 98mph in order to arrive at the plate at the same time as the ball going 75mph.

The pitches are covering different distances, in the same amount of elapsed time.