Slow Curve for HS?

[bugboy900]

if ou pitch slower to get more break will that be too slow for highschool.

EX: if i threw a curve a 53mph in a game would they crush it

[EdmondsFan#1]

No.


Major League's throw 70 mph 12-6 curves and they don't get crushed. All depends on the batter.

[BigPapi34]

if ou pitch slower to get more break will that be too slow for highschool.

EX: if i threw a curve a 53mph in a game would they crush it

if you pitch slower, you wont get any break. You need to throw the ball hard to get your pitches to break.

[CanadianKid]

No.


Major League's throw 70 mph 12-6 curves and they don't get crushed. All depends on the batter.

70 mph is good speed for a curveball plus they have pinpoint control of the strikezone.

[EdmondsFan#1]

70 mph is good speed for a curveball plus they have pinpoint control of the strikezone.

exactly. But i'm just figuring that since he says he throws the curveball slower he can control it a little better.

[Stumanji]

if ou pitch slower to get more break will that be too slow for highschool.

EX: if i threw a curve a 53mph in a game would they crush it

Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting that timing.

Mixing speeds = upsetting timing.

[POHusKy9]

Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting that timing.

Mixing speeds = upsetting timing.
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ever seen orlando hernandez's curve? idk how fast he throws his fastball right now, but ill just say 90, then he comes with a 50-60 mph curve? thats upsetting timing right there
hes got guys so off balance they can't even foul it off for another pitch

[wogdoggy]

if its too slow a pro can recognize that immediately,, sit back and make you look stupid.go with the fastest curve you can throw,it will be enough of a difference that will make it unhittable after throwing gas.the curve grip will make the pitch lose enuf speed

[Chris O'Leary]

if ou pitch slower to get more break will that be too slow for highschool.

The break of a curve is largely determined by the spin of the ball rather than the speed of the ball.

[Chris O'Leary]

if its too slow a pro can recognize that immediately,, sit back and make you look stupid.go with the fastest curve you can throw,it will be enough of a difference that will make it unhittable after throwing gas.the curve grip will make the pitch lose enuf speed

The point of a good curve is that a pro can't hit it even if he knows it's coming.

Many pros have survived while throwing very obvious curves.

The hard thing about hitting a curveball is that the human brain has a hard time processing its movement (especially if that movement is pretty much just vertical). As a result, their swings are pretty much just educated guesses.

[wogdoggy]

slow curves are MUCH easier to hit.u pick up the rotation immediately and have ample time to adjust.have you ever played the game Chris?

[Jake Patterson]

slow curves are MUCH easier to hit.u pick up the rotation immediately and have ample time to adjust.have you ever played the game Chris?

Wouldn't you agree that the degree in which the ball curves and the speed in which the ball arrives both determine whether or not a ball is easy to pick up?
jake

[wogdoggy]

any pitch that gives you more time to look at is easier to pick up.

[Jake Patterson]

any pitch that gives you more time to look at is easier to pick up.

Hmm ... then I guess we don't agree.

In my experience a 1-7 curve ball (for example) thrown at 70 MPH that breaks 6 inches is a lot easier to hit than the same pitch breaking 18 inches.

I have also found ... A 1-7, 6" breaking ball thrown at 75 MPH is harder to hit than a 1-7-6 thrown at 65 MPH.

[wogdoggy]

in my experiences at the plate,,the more time i have the better of i am,,doesnt matter if its a 12-6 11-7 etc...or a meatball.give me time to look at it and i can be more successful..throw your curve as fast as you can...dont worry the curve grip will slow it down plenty,,why throw it slower? throw it as fast as your fastball..or the arm action will give it away as well

[virg]

I pitched adult ball for 12 years and did fine. Wouldn't have lasted two had I been stuck with coaching like this!

[wogdoggy]

please virg ..your still hitting with your wrists. GIVE US ALL A BREAK.lol


wristhitter ,,12 years? musta been co ed 16 inch

[virg]

please virg ..your still hitting with your wrists. GIVE US ALL A BREAK.lol
wristhitter ,,12 years? musta been co ed 16 inch

whatya consider a break? throw-it-and-pray against swing for the jackpot?

[Chris O'Leary]

slow curves are MUCH easier to hit.u pick up the rotation immediately and have ample time to adjust.

What about Sandy Koufax's curve?

From what I understand it was thrown with a significant arc and wouldn't be confused with his fastball, but was still extremely hard to hit. From the clips I've seen of it, it was almost Eephus-ish.

[wogdoggy]

so what 1 or 2 guys have slow curves..not many...wonder why

the longer i have to see something the better shot i have to hit it.its really that simple

[wogdoggy]

whatya consider a break? throw-it-and-pray against swing for the jackpot?



no i just say..get your wrists into it.virg you really have zero room to talk about baseball aftyer seeing your website.ZERO

[bbjunkie]

The hard thing about hitting a curveball is that the human brain has a hard time processing its movement (especially if that movement is pretty much just vertical).
That's an interesting perception. Is that based on some kind of study or experience? My son throws a good hook that drops vertically if he comes over the top and angles out and down to a righty if he pitches from 3/4. Either way seems pretty effective unless he hangs one.

[Chris O'Leary]

That's an interesting perception. Is that based on some kind of study or experience? My son throws a good hook that drops vertically if he comes over the top and angles out and down to a righty if he pitches from 3/4. Either way seems pretty effective unless he hangs one.

It's based on a couple of studies of how the human perceptual system works.

One is a study that talks about the illusion of the rising fastball. Basically, a 4-seamer doesn't rise; it just doesn't fall as fast as the brain would expect it to. It's also related to why the hardest ball for an outfielder to catch is one that's coing straight at him.

The same basic limitation of the human perceptual system also explain why it's hard to hit certain curveballs (and why it's not nearly as hard to hit other curveballs).

It grows out of the fact that our eyes are spaced apart on a horizontal plane.