CKL 1963 All Star Ballots

[leecemark]

--Greetings owners, this thread is for you to cast your ballots for this years All Star team. Please vote for 2 players at each position. At 2 positions you can vote for a third player as were will include 2 wild card in our 18 position players. We will also be voting for 8 starting pitchers and 4 relief pitchers (a very tough field this season). List you players in order of preference. The first player at each position will get 5 points, the second 3 and at the 2 spots you vote for three 1 point for 3rd. Starting pitchers will get 8 points for the #1 spot (then 7, 6, etc). Releif pitchers will get 4, 3, 2, 1. Deadline for submitting ballots is noon EST this Saturday. It would be great if all owners particiated this year. Thanks!

[leecemark]

C: Howard, Bailey
1B: Cepeda, Gentile
2B: Rose, Javier, Davis (WC)
3B: Alvis, Mathews (rebounded with a vengence from bad start)
SS: Wills, Groat
LF: Yaz, McCovey
CF: Mays, Pinson
RF: Howard, Aaron, Wagner (WC)

SP:
1) Pascual
2) Peters
3) Koufax
4) Ellsworth
5) Pizzaro
6) Friend
7) Lemaster
8) Chance

RP:
1) Fowler
2) Kline
3) Cheney (can't overlook at 0.95 ERA in 57 IP)
4) Wilhelm

[baseballPAP]

C: Howard, Bailey
1B: Cepeda, White, Sieburn(WC)
2B: Rose, Davis, Gilliam
3B: Alvis, Mathews (rebounded with a vengence from bad start)
SS: Wills, Groat
LF: Yaz, Tresh(WC)
CF: Mays, Demeter, Kaline
RF: Aaron, Howard
note: Tommy Davis, playing out of position at 2B, is still among the league leaders in...well, almost nothing at 2B, but he's hitting .326!
SP:
1) Peters
2) Koufax
3) Pascual
4) Ellsworth
5) Bouton
6) Friend
7) Pizarro
8) Downing

RP:
1) Fowler
2) Veale
3) Kline
4) Cheney

Thanks for the start Mark :)

[jkc32]

C: Howard, Bailey
1B: Cepeda, Gentile
2B: Rose, Wood (DC)
3B: Alvis, Mathews
SS: Wills, Groat
LF: Yastrzemski, McCovey
CF: Mays, Kaline, Pinson
RF: Howard, Wagner (LM), Aaron

SP:
1) Peters
2) Koufax
3) Pascual
4) Ellsworth
5) Pizarro
6) Friend
7) Bouton
8) Simmons

RP:
1) Fowler
2) Cheney
3) Veale
4) Wilhelm

[catcher24]

My selections for the 1963 CKL All-Star team. Some positions may seem strange, but I set a filter of a minimum 40 games played at a position before a player would qualify for my vote at that position. With that caveat, here are my picks:
C: Elston Howard, Ed Bailey
1B: Orlando Cepeda, Bill White
2B: Pete Rose, Tommy Davis
3B: Max Alvis, Ed Mathews
SS: Maury Wills, Dick Groat
LF: Carl Yastrzemski, Willie McCovey
CF: Willie Mays, Jimmie Hall
RF: Frank Howard, Billy Williams, Hank Aaron, Leon Wagner
SP: Sandy Koufax, Gary Peters, Dick Ellsworth, Camilo Pascual, Bob Friend, Curt Simmons, Jim Bouton, Juan Pizarro
RP: Stan Williams, Al Worthington, Ron Kline, Art Fowler

[538280]

C: Ed Bailey, Elston Howard
1B: Orlando Cepeda, Bill White, Norm Sieburn (WC)
2B: Pete Rose, Julian Javier
3B: Max Alvis, Eddie Mathews
SS: Maury Wills, Dick Groat
LF: Carl Yastrzemski, Willie McCovey
CF: Willie Mays, Jimmie Hall
RF: Hank Aaron, Frank Howard, Billy Williams (WC)

SP
1.Sandy Koufax
2.Gary Peters
3.Dick Ellsworth
4.Bob Friend
5.Camilo Pascual
6.Jim Bouton
7.Juan Piazarro
8.Denny Lemaster

RP
1.Art Fowler
2.Bob Veale
3.Tom Cheney
4.Stan Williams

[leecemark]

--A little over 24 hours to get your votes for our 1963 All Stars in. The leaders to this point;
C: Elston Howard
1B: Orlando Cepeda (unanimous)
2B: Pete Rose (unanimous)
3B: Max Alvis (unanimous)
SS: Maury Wills (unanimous)
LF: Carl Yastrzemski (unanimous)
CF: Willie Mays (unanimous)
RF: Frank Howard
--RF is the only closely contested spot for the starting lineup (Aaron), but the backups at 1B, 2B and CF are close and there are a bunch of guys binched together for the 2 wild card slots.

SP: Gary Peters holds a slim lead over Sandy Koufax. 7 of the 8 are close to locked in, with 4 pitchers contending for the last slot.
RP: Art Fowler is the only man to appear on all ballots and has been the top choice on all but one.

[catcher24]

Actually I didn't list my players (especially pitchers) in any particular order. If I did, Fowler or Kline would probably be at the top.

[leecemark]

==Check the first post. At the positions, its 5 point for first team and 3 for 2nd with 1 for the two spots (or in Lew's case 2 extra RFers) added for the wild card selections. SP its 8, 7, 6, etc. RP its 4, 3, 2, 1.

[catcher24]

OOPS, I did my ballot without reading it, because I didn't want to be influenced by anyone else's vote. It's probably too late, but if not, I would place my relief pitchers in this order:
Fowler
Kline (hometown favorite)
William
Worthington

Everyone else would stay the same.

[mac195]

C: Elston Howard, Ed Bailey
1B: Orlando Cepeda, Bill White
2B: Pete Rose, Bill Moran
3B: Max Alvis, Eddie Mathews
SS: Maury Wills, Dick Groat
LF: Carl Yastrzemski, Willie McCovey
CF: Willie Mays, Jimmie Hall
RF: Hank Aaron, Billy Williams, Frank Howard (WC) Leon Wagner (WC)

SP
1.Peters
2.Koufax
3.Pascual
4.Ellsworth
5.Bob Friend
6.Simmons
7.Downing
8.Piazarro

RP
1.Wilhelm
2.Cheney
3.Fowler
4.Reniff

[Wasp]

C: Elston Howard, Ed Bailey
1B: Orlando Cepeda, Jim Gentile, Bill White (WC)
2B: Pete Rose, Julian Javier
3B: Max Alvis, Eddie Mathews
SS: Maury Wills, Dick Groat
LF: Carl Yastrzemski, Willie McCovey
CF: Willie Mays, Jimmie Hall
RF: Hank Aaron, Frank Howard, Leon Wagner (WC)

SP
1.Sandy Koufax
2.Gary Peters
3.Dick Ellsworth
4.Camilo Pascual
5. Bob Friend
6.Jim Bouton
7.Juan Piazarro
8.Denny Lemaster

RP
1.Art Fowler
2.Tom Cheney
3.Bob Veale
4.Hoyt Wilhelm

[J W]

C: Elston Howard, Ed Bailey
1B: Orlando Cepeda, Norm Seiburn
2B: Julian Javier, Bill Moran, Pete Rose (WC--platooned more)
3B: Eddie Mathews, Max Alvis (similar RC, RC/27, nod goes to better team)
SS: Maury Wills, Dick Groat
LF: Carl Yastrzemski, Willie McCovey
CF: Willie Mays, Vada Pinson
RF: Hank Aaron, Frank Howard, Leon Wagner (WC)

SP
1.Gary Peters (surprised)
2.Sandy Koufax
3.Dick Ellsworth
4.Camilo Pascual
5. Bob Friend
6.Juan Pizarro
7.Jim Bouton
8.Whitey Ford (10-5, league lead in quality starts... but yeah, homer pick)

RP
1.Art Fowler
2.Tom Cheney
3.Hoyt Wilhelm
4.Gary Bell

[leecemark]

--Voting is closed. Thanks to JW for getting in under the deadline and breaking some ties:) . Results up later today (getting pushed to head out to the lake). Games resume tomorrow.

[leecemark]

Starters
P: Gary Peters
C: Elston Howard
1B: Orlando Cepeda (unanimous selection)
2B: Pete Rose
3B: Max Alvis
SS: Maury Wills (unanimous)
LF: Carl Yastrzemski (unanimous)
CF: Willie Mays (unanimous)
RF: Hank Aaron

Reserves
SP: Koufax, Pascual, Ellsworth, Friend, Pizzaro, Bouton and Simmons.
RP: Fowler, Cheney, Veale and Wilhelm
C: Bailey
1B: White and Gentile
2B: Javier
3B: Mathews
SS: Groat
LF: McCovey
CF: Hall
RF: Howard and Wagner

[catcher24]

A little surprised that Kline didn't make it, and also that I only have one player, but it sure is a good team.

[leecemark]

--Kline got off to a good start in the voting (he was 2nd on my ballot and made the next 2), but then his support fell off. There were actually 8-9 relievers who merited consideration so I'm surprised the vote wasn't more splintered.
--We had 6 rookies make this year's squad (Rose, Javier, Alvis, Hall, Peters and LeMaster). That makes for a pretty good list of nominees when we get the the RoY voting.
--We also have 8 players who have made all three teams (E. Howard, Gentile, Mathews, Mays, Aaron, Pascual, Koufax and Friend). 5 of those 8 are Knights, although Bob Friend has only been one for a couple weeks.

[J W]

I actually don't think Gentile should have made it this time... but when your team is as good as the Knights, that's a perk.

So much for Pete Ward getting any RoY votes... he's tailed off a bit after a strong start. It's going to be tough but my vote so far would go to Gary Peters over Max Alvis. Peters has been phenomenal so far.

[leecemark]

--Gentile is definately a grey area All Star this year. He is a fan favorite though:D . He did only make it as a wild card, finishing 3 amoung 1st basemen with 3 of 7 second place votes.

[catcher24]

Based on his record next year, he might still have an outside chance, but it sure won't be shoo-in.

[catcher24]

Posted by Mark:
We had 6 rookies make this year's squad (Rose, Javier, Alvis, Hall, Peters and LeMaster)

Actually, Mark, Lemaster didn't make the all-star team. He got some support, but the only Legend player to make the team was McCovey. You may have been thinking of the Skipjack's Bouton, who I believe is a CKL rookie this year and did make the team. He was a real life rookie in 1962, but he wasn't on anyone's roster in our league last year, was he?

[J W]

I have Bouton down for some playing time in '62.

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