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jalbright
08-26-2006, 06:08 AM
The order of posts will be:
1. Index
2. The Rules
3. BBF HOF inductees by category
4. Alphabetical listing of BBF HOF players and contributors
5. Last month's player results
6. Last month's contributor results
7. Voters' guide
8. Review of players with 50% or more of vote last month
9. Review of contributors with 50% or more of vote last month
10. New players on my ballot
11. Negro Leaguer players on my ballot
12. 19th century players on my ballot
13. Japanese players on my ballot
14. position players other than OF on my ballot
15. outfielders and pitchers on my ballot
16. MLB contributors on my ballot
17. non-MLB contributors on my ballot
18. Transition to players not on ballot but in my queues
19. Negro League players not on ballot but in queue/tough cases from those leagues
20. 19th century players not on ballot
21. Japanese players not on ballot
22. MLB position players other than OF not on ballot but in queue
23. MLB pitchers and OF not on ballot but in queue
24. Tough cases among MLB players from 1900 on
25. Prominent Negro League players I'm not likely to support
26. Prominent MLB players I'm not likely to support
27. Transition to contributor queues
28. Media/executive contributors not on ballot but in queue
29. Pioneers not on ballot but in queue
30. Japanese managers not on ballot but in queue
31. Negro League contributors not on ballot but in queue.

Comments and discussion are welcome after I've got this structure up.

jalbright
08-26-2006, 06:09 AM
Welcome to the Baseball Fever Hall of Fame

The Baseball Fever Hall of Fame (BBFHoF) was established to honor the greatest players and contributors in baseball history. We seek to match our wits against those of the National Hall of Fame in Cooperstown by comparing and contrasting our selections to their own. Our elections are held monthly.

All voters are welcome, however, prospective voters should first read our rules (in this post) and must agree to observe them.

The idea of this project has always been that each member will cast his or her own individual ballot without creating voting blocs a la "Survivor". If I become aware of violations of this concept, they will be dealt with. Toward that end, if there is more than one vote being cast from any one computer or IP, it must be cleared in advance, or only the first vote will be counted. I only anticipate exceptions for family members living in the same home, like the Chancellor and the Wizard, but I will entertain requests on other bases. Please note that I and the other mods who participate in the project have the capability of determining the IP from which posts come, and I for one intend to monitor same.

There are two elections, one for players who have been retired for a full season and one for contributors to the game, who are either retired or at least 60 years of age. Ballots must be posted in the monthly voting thread by the 25th of the month and adhere to the rules below in order to be counted. Also, I reserve the right to reject ballots which do not alphabetize the listing of candidates. The process of counting the votes is hard enough, and my spreadsheet is set up to take advantage of the tradition of alphabetized ballots..

Players from and contributors to the major, negro and japanese leagues are eligible for consideration. For clarity, I consider the following leagues part of the "negro leagues": the US American Leagues, Cuban Winter Leauge to 1950, Mexican League to 1950, Puerto Rican Winter League to 1950, the 1937 Dominican League and the California Winter League. Once inducted as either a player or contributor, an individual is no longer eligible for consideration in the other capacity. Players are to be considered based on their performance and its impact on their teams. Contributors are to be considered for the quality and impact of their contribution to their teams and/or the sport in general. (This may include a contributor's playing career.)

A Players Ballot should list the 25 most deserving candidates (until we have elected at least 90% of the number of players in Cooperstown.) A Contributors Ballot should list up to the 15 most deserving candidates. When shorter ballots are permitted, the minimum number of candidates will be the number which, when added to the number elected to the BBF HOF brings us equal to the to the number of contributors or players (depending on the category in question). When new minimum vote numbers apply, they will be posted. When we get to the point where the minimum vote is zero (as with the contributor ballot), a voter may submit a ballot indicating " I do not believe there are any qualified (player/contributor) candidates".

We have now reached the point where a ballot of as few as zero (0) names is acceptable on the contributor side.

Please note that once a person is elected either as a contributor or as a player, he is no longer eligible to receive votes in either category.

At the conclusion of each election (11:59:59 PM Eastern US time on the 25th), the votes will be tabulated and any candidate named on the greater of nine or 75% or more of the valid ballots in a given category (player or contributor) will be inducted that month.

You are allowed to change your ballot at any time the ballot is open. However, I request that you PM me (jalbright) to ensure that I am aware of the change. It would be most helpful if you could tell me who was added and/or subtracted from your ballot. I cannot agree to be responsible for monitoring the thread for any changes voters might make. If I catch them, fine, but if I don't and am not notified, the official count will be what I have been notified of, not what is on the thread.

Also, it is permissible to vote for a candidate on both the contributor and player lists

Feel free to ask questions by either sending jalbright a PM, or by posting a question in this or the BBF HOF discussion thread.

jalbright
08-26-2006, 06:11 AM
Baseball Fever Hall of Fame Membership by category

180 players inducted (80% of Cooperstown's 225)
54 contributors inducted (over 100% of Cooperstown's 53)

Pitchers
Pete Alexander, Bert Blyleven, Mordecai Brown, Raymond Brown, Steve Carlton, John Clarkson, Stan Coveleski, Dizzy Dean, Dennis Eckersley, Bob Feller, Whitey Ford, Bill Foster, Pud Galvin, Bob Gibson, Goose Gossage, Lefty Grove, Carl Hubbell, Ferguson Jenkins, Walter Johnson, Masaichi Kaneda, Tim Keefe, Sandy Koufax, Bob Lemon, Juan Marichal, Christy Mathewson, Joe McGinnity, Hal Newhouser, Kid Nichols, Phil Niekro, Satchel Paige, Jim Palmer, Gaylord Perry, Eddie Plank, Charley Radbourn, Robin Roberts, Joe Rogan, Amos Rusie, Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver, Warren Spahn, Dazzy Vance, Rube Waddell, Ed Walsh, Hoyt Wilhelm, Joe Williams, Early Wynn, Cy Young

Catchers
Johnny Bench, Yogi Berra, Roy Campanella, Gary Carter, Mickey Cochrane, Bill Dickey, Buck Ewing, Carlton Fisk, Josh Gibson, Gabby Hartnett, Biz Mackey, Katsuya Nomura, Louis Santop, Ted Simmons, Deacon White

First Basemen
Dick Allen, Cap Anson, Dan Brouthers, Roger Connor, Jimmie Foxx, Lou Gehrig, Hank Greenberg, Buck Leonard, Willie McCovey, Mark McGwire, Johnny Mize, Eddie Murray, Sadaharu Oh, George Sisler, Mule Suttles, Bill Terry

Second Basemen
Roberto Alomar, Rod Carew, Eddie Collins, Frankie Frisch, Charlie Gehringer, Joe Gordon, Bobby Grich, Billy Herman, Rogers Hornsby, Nap Lajoie, Joe Morgan, Jackie Robinson, Ryne Sandberg

Third Basemen
Frank Baker, Wade Boggs, George Brett, Jimmy Collins, Ray Dandridge, Stan Hack, Harmon Killebrew, Eddie Mathews, Paul Molitor, Shigeo Nagashima, Brooks Robinson, Ron Santo, Mike Schmidt, Pie Traynor, Jud Wilson

Shortstops
Luke Appling, Ernie Banks, Lou Boudreau, Joe Cronin, Bill Dahlen, George Davis, Barry Larkin, Pop Lloyd, Pee Wee Reese, Cal Ripken Jr., Ozzie Smith, Alan Trammell, Arky Vaughan, Honus Wagner, Willie Wells, Robin Yount

Left Fielders
Lou Brock, Jesse Burkett, Fred Clarke, Ed Delahanty, Goose Goslin, Rickey Henderson, Monte Irvin, Joe Jackson, Ralph Kiner, Sherry Magee, Joe Medwick, Minnie Minoso, Stan Musial, Jim O'Rourke, Tim Raines, Al Simmons, Willie Stargell, Harry Stovey, Zach Wheat, Billy Williams, Ted Williams, Carl Yastrzemski

Center Fielders
Richie Ashburn, Earl Averill, Cool Papa Bell, Oscar Charleston, Ty Cobb, Joe DiMaggio, Larry Doby, Billy Hamilton, Paul Hines, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Dale Murphy, Kirby Puckett, Duke Snider, Tris Speaker, Turkey Stearnes

Right Fielders
Hank Aaron, Roberto Clemente, Sam Crawford, Andre Dawson, Martin Dihigo, Tony Gwynn, Harry Heilmann, Reggie Jackson, Al Kaline, Willie Keeler, King Kelly, Mel Ott, Frank Robinson, Pete Rose, Babe Ruth, Enos Slaughter, Sam Thompson, Christobal Torriente, Paul Waner, Dave Winfield

Managers
Walter Alston, Sparky Anderson, Frank Chance, Bobby Cox, Leo Durocher, Ned Hanlon, Whitey Herzog, Miller Huggins, Tetsuharu Kawakami, Tony LaRussa, Tommy Lasorda, Al Lopez, Connie Mack, Joe McCarthy, John McGraw, Bill McKechnie, Frank Selee, Billy Southworth, Casey Stengel, Joe Torre, Earl Weaver, Dick Williams

Executives
Ed Barrow, Charles Comiskey, Clark Griffith, William Hulbert, Ban Johnson, Kenesaw M. Landis, Larry MacPhail, Walter O'Malley, Cum Posey, Branch Rickey, Albert Spalding, Bill Veeck, J.L. Wilkinson

Pioneers
Doc Adams, Sy Berger, Alexander Cartwright, Henry Chadwick, Charles Conlon, Rube Foster, Marvin Miller, Buck O'Neill, John Montgomery Ward, Harry Wright

Broadcasters
Mel Allen, Red Barber, Ernie Harwell

Writers
Bill James, Francis Richter, J.G. Taylor Spink

Umpires
Tom Connolly, Bill Klem

jalbright
08-26-2006, 06:31 AM
Alphabetical listing of players and contributors in BBF HOF


Player pos … Contributor
Aaron of … Adams, Doc
Alexander p Allen, Mel
Allen 1b … Alston, Walter
Alomar 2b … Anderson, Sparky
Anson 1b … Barber, Red
Appling ss Barrow, Ed
Ashburn of Berger, Sy
Averill of Cartwright, Alexander
Baker 3b … Chadwick, Henry
Banks ss … Chance, Frank
CP Bell of Commiskey, Charlie
Bench c … Conlon, Charles
Berra c … Connolly, Tom
Blyleven p Cox, Bobby
Boggs 3b … Dunn, Jack
Boudreau ss Durocher, Leo
Brett 3b … Foster, Rube
Brock of … Griffith, Clark
Brouthers 1b Hanlon, Ned
3 Brown p Harwell, Ernie
R. Brown p Herzog, Whitey
Burkett of Huggins, Miller
Campanellla c Hulbert, Wiliiam
Carew 2b … James, Bill
Carlton p Johnson, Ban
G. Carter c Kawakami, Tetsuharu
Charleston of Klem, Bill
Clarke of … Landis, Kennesaw
Clarkson p LaRussa, Tony
Clemente of Lasorda, Tommy
Cobb of … Lopez, Al
Cochrane c Mack, Connie
E. Collins 2b MacPhail. Larry
J. Collins 3b McCarthy, Joe
Connor 1b … McGraw, John
Coveleski p McKechnie, Bill
Crawford of Miller, Marvin
Cronin ss … O'Malley, Walter
Dahlen ss … O'Neill, Buck
Dandridge 3b Posey, Cum
G. Davis ss Richter, Francis
Dawson of … Rickey, Branch
Dean p … Selee, Frank
Delahanty of Southworth, Billy
Dickey c … Spalding, Albert
Dihigo 2b … Spink, J. G. Taylo
J. DiMaggio of Stengel, Casey
Doby of … Torre, Joe
Eckersley p Veeck, Bill
Ewing c … Ward, Monte
Feller p … Weaver, Earl
Fisk c … Wilkinson, J. L.
Ford p … Williams, Dick
W. Foster p Wright, Harry
Foxx 1b …
Frisch 2b …
Galvin p …
Gehrig 1b …
Gehringer 2b …
B. Gibson p …
J. Gibson c …
Gordon 2b …
Goslin of …
Gossage p …
Greenberg 1b …
Grich 2b …
Grove p …
Gwynn of …
Hack 3b …
Hamilton of …
Hartnett c …
Heilmann of …
R Henderson of …
Herman 2b …
Hines of …
Hornsby 2b …
Hubbell p …
Irvin of …
J. Jackson of …
R Jackson of …
Jenkins p …
W. Johnson p …
Kaline of …
Kaneda p …
Keefe p …
Keeler of …
K Kelly of …
Killebrew 3b …
Kiner of …
Koufax p …
LaJoie 2b …
Larkin ss …
Lemon p …
Leonard 1b …
Lloyd ss …
Mackey c …
Magee of …
Mantle of …
Marichal p …
Mathews 3b …
Mathewson p …
W. Mays of …
McCovey 1b …
McGinnity p …
McGwire 1b …
Medwick of …
Minoso of …
Mize 1b …
Molitor 3b …
Morgan 2b …
Murphy, Dale of …
Murray 1b …
Musial of …
Nagashima 3b …
Newhouser p …
Nichols p …
Niekro p …
Nomura c …
Oh 1b …
O'Rourke of …
Ott of …
Paige p …
Palmer p …
G. Perry p …
Plank p …
Puckett of …
Radbourn p …
Raines of …
Reese ss …
Ripken ss …
Roberts p …
B. Robinson 3b …
F. Robinson of …
J. Robinson 2b …
Rogan p …
Rose of …
Rusie p …
Ruth of …
Ryan p …
Sandberg 2b …
Santo 3b …
Santop c …
Schmidt 3b …
Seaver p …
A. Simmons of …
T Simmons c …
Sisler 1b …
Slaughter of …
O. Smith ss …
Snider of …
Spahn p …
Speaker of …
Stargell of …
Stearnes of …
Stovey of …
Suttles 1b …
Terry 1b …
Thompson of …
Torriente of …
Trammell ss …
Traynor 3b …
Vance p …
Vaughan ss …
Waddell p …
Wagner ss …
Walsh p …
P Waner of …
Wells ss …
Wheat of …
D. White 3b …
Wilhelm p …
B. Williams of …
J Williams p …
T Williams of …
J. Wilson 3b …
Winfield of …
E. Wynn p …
Yaz of …
Young p …
Yount ss …

jalbright
08-26-2006, 06:47 AM
Player votes 20 votes cast, 15 needed for election.


Name votes percent .... Name votes
Carey, Max 13 65 ….. Andujar, J 1
Wright, George 13 65 ….. Aparicio, Luis 3
….. ….. ….. ….. Bando, Sal 2
Belle, Albert 12 60 ….. Barnes, Ross 6
Doerr, Bobby 12 60 ….. Beckley, Jake 5
Drysdale, Don 12 60 ….. Beckwith, John 4
Lyons, Ted 12 60 ….. Bell, George 1
Sutton, Don 12 60 ….. Belle, Albert 12
….. ….. ….. ….. Bender, Chief 1
Freehan, Bill 11 55 ….. Bennett, C 4
Harimoto, Isao 11 55 ….. Bessho, Akira 2
….. ….. ….. ….. Bond, Tommy 1
Duffy, Hugh 10 50 ….. Bonds, Bobby 5
Parker, Dave 10 50 ….. Boyer, Ken 7
Sutter, Bruce 10 50 ….. Brown, Willard 6
Welch, Mickey 10 50 ….. Browning, Pete 7
….. ….. ….. ….. Buffinton, C 1
Fingers, Rollie 9 45 ….. Bunning, Jim 5
Mays, Carl 9 45 ….. Carey, Max 13
….. ….. ….. ….. Carter, Joe 1
Klein, Chuck 8 40 ….. Caruthers, Bob 6
Redding, Dick 8 40 ….. Cedeno, Cesar 1
Rice, Jim 8 40 ….. .... Cepeda, Orlando 5
Whitaker, Lou 8 40 ….. Cepeda, Perucho 2
….. ….. ….. ….. Cey, Ron 1
Boyer, Ken 7 35 ….. Chesbro, Jack 1
Browning, Pete 7 35 ….. Clark, Will 7
Clark, Will 7 35 ….. Corcoran, Larry 1
Joss, Addie 7 35 ….. Cummings, Candy 1
Martinez, Edgar 7 35 ….. Cuyler, Kiki 2
Rice, Sam 7 35 ….. Day, Leon 3
….. ….. ….. ….. Doerr, Bobby 12
Barnes, Ross 6 30 ….. Doyle, Larry 1
Brown, Willard 6 30 ….. Drysdale, Don 12
Caruthers, Bob 6 30 ….. Duffy, Hugh 10
Ferrell, Wes 6 30 ….. Evans, Darrell 4
Flick, Elmer 6 30 ….. Faber, Red 2
Fox, Nellie 6 30 ….. Fernandez, Tony 1
Hill, Pete 6 30 ….. Ferrell, Wes 6
McGriff, Fred 6 30 ….. Fingers, Rollie 9
Ruffing, Red 6 30 ….. Flick, Elmer 6
….. ….. ….. ….. Fox, Nellie 6
Beckley, Jake 5 25 ….. Freehan, Bill 11
Bonds, Bobby 5 25 ….. Glasscock, Jack 3
Bunning, Jim 5 25 ….. Gomez, Lefty 2
Cepeda, Orlando 5 25 ….. Gore, George 1
Inao, Kazuhisa 5 25 ….. Grant, Frank 4
Manush, Heinie 5 25 ….. Grimes, B 4
Smith, Hilton 5 25 ….. Groh, Heinie 4
Starffin, V 5 25 ….. Harimoto, Isao 11
Wilson, Hack 5 25 ….. Hecker, Guy 1
….. ….. ….. ….. Hernandez, K 3
Beckwith, John 4 20 ….. Herr, Tommy 1
Bennett, C 4 20 ….. Hill, Pete 6
Evans, Darrell 4 20 ….. Howard, Frank 1
Grant, Frank 4 20 ….. Inao, Kazuhisa 5
Grimes, B 4 20 ….. Jennings, H 1
Groh, Heinie 4 20 ….. John, Tommy 2
Quisenberry, D 4 20 ….. Johnson, Bob 1
Roush, Edd 4 20 ….. Johnson, Judy 2
….. ….. ….. ….. Joss, Addie 7
Aparicio, Luis 3 15 ….. Kaat, Jim 1
Day, Leon 3 15 ….. Kell, George 2
Glasscock, Jack 3 15 ….. Kelley, Joe 3
Hernandez, K 3 15 ….. Kingman, Dave 1
Kelley, Joe 3 15 ….. Klein, Chuck 8
Mattingly, Don 3 15 ….. Kuenn, Harvey 1
McCormick, Jim 3 15 ….. Leach, Tommy 1
McPhee, Bid 3 15 ….. Lombardi, Ernie 1
Mendez, Jose 3 15 ….. Lyons, Ted 12
Perez, Tony 3 15 ….. Manush, Heinie 5
Rixey, Eppa 3 15 ….. Martinez, Edgar 7
Ryan, Jimmy 3 15 ….. Mathews, Bobby 2
Smith, Lee 3 15 ….. Mattingly, Don 3
Stephens, Vern 3 15 ….. Mays, Carl 9
Tiant, Luis 3 15 ….. Mazeroski, Bill 2
Wallace, Bobby 3 15 ….. McCormick, Jim 3
Wynn, Jimmy 3 15 ….. McGee, Willie 1
….. ….. ….. ….. McGriff, Fred 6
Bando, Sal 2 10 ….. McKean, Ed 1
Bessho, Akira 2 10 ….. McPhee, Bid 3
Cepeda, Perucho 2 10 ….. McVey, Cal 2
Cuyler, Kiki 2 10 ….. Mendez, Jose 3
Faber, Red 2 10 ….. Moore, Dobie 2
Gomez, Lefty 2 10 ….. Morris, Jack 2
John, Tommy 2 10 ….. Mullane, Tony 1
Johnson, Judy 2 10 ….. Nettles, Graig 1
Kell, George 2 10 ….. Ochiai, H 2
Mathews, Bobby 2 10 ….. O'Neil, Tip 1
Mazeroski, Bill 2 10 ….. Parker, Dave 10
McVey, Cal 2 10 ….. Pearce, Dickey 1
Moore, Dobie 2 10 ….. Pendleton, T 1
Morris, Jack 2 10 ….. Perez, Tony 3
Ochiai, H 2 10 ….. Poles, S 1
Start, Joe 2 10 ….. Porter, Darrell 1
Stieb, Dave 2 10 ….. Quisenberry, D 4
Van Haltren, G 2 10 ….. Redding, Dick 8
….. ….. ….. ….. Rice, Jim 8
Andujar, J 1 5 ….. Rice, Sam 7
Bell, George 1 5 ….. Richardson, H 1
Bender, Chief 1 5 ….. Rixey, Eppa 3
Bond, Tommy 1 5 ….. Rosen, Al 1
Buffinton, C 1 5 ….. Roush, Edd 4
Carter, Joe 1 5 ….. Ruffing, Red 6
Cedeno, Cesar 1 5 ….. Ryan, Jimmy 3
Cey, Ron 1 5 ….. Schalk, Ray 1
Chesbro, Jack 1 5 ….. Sewell, Joe 1
Corcoran, Larry 1 5 ….. Smith, Hilton 5
Cummings, Candy 1 5 ….. Smith, Lee 3
Doyle, Larry 1 5 ….. Starffin, V 5
Fernandez, Tony 1 5 ….. Start, Joe 2
Gore, George 1 5 ….. Stephens, Vern 3
Hecker, Guy 1 5 ….. Stewart, Dave 1
Herr, Tommy 1 5 ….. Stieb, Dave 2
Howard, Frank 1 5 ….. Sutter, Bruce 10
Jennings, H 1 5 ….. Sutton, Don 12
Johnson, Bob 1 5 ….. Tannehill, J 1
Kaat, Jim 1 5 ….. Tiant, Luis 3
Kingman, Dave 1 5 ….. Van Haltren, G 2
Kuenn, Harvey 1 5 ….. Veach, Bobby 1
Leach, Tommy 1 5 ….. Wallace, Bobby 3
Lombardi, Ernie 1 5 ….. Welch, Mickey 10
McGee, Willie 1 5 ….. Whitaker, Lou 8
McKean, Ed 1 5 ….. White, Will 1
Mullane, Tony 1 5 ….. Wilson, Hack 5
Nettles, Graig 1 5 ….. Wright, George 13
O'Neil, Tip 1 5 ….. Wynn, Jimmy 3
Pearce, Dickey 1 5 ….. Yonamine, Wally 1
Pendleton, T 1 5 …..
Poles, S 1 5 …..
Porter, Darrell 1 5 …..
Richardson, H 1 5 …..
Rosen, Al 1 5 …..
Schalk, Ray 1 5 …..
Sewell, Joe 1 5 …..
Stewart, Dave 1 5 …..
Tannehill, J 1 5 …..
Veach, Bobby 1 5 …..
White, Will 1 5 …..
Yonamine, Wally 1 5 …..

jalbright
08-26-2006, 09:50 AM
Contributor results 18 votes cast, 14 needed for election


Name votes percent Name votes percent
O'Neil, Buck 15 83.3 Ashford, Emmett 1 5.6
………. … …. …. Autry, Gene 1 5.6
Jennings, H 13 72.2 Barlick, Al 4 22.2
………. … …. …. Bolden, Ed 5 27.8
Taylor, C.I. 12 66.7 Bouton, Jim 1 5.6
………. … …. …. Brickhouse, J 2 11.1
Scully, Vin 9 50.0 Buck, Jack 4 22.2
Weiss, George 9 50.0 Busch, Augie 1 5.6
………. … …. …. Canel, Buck 8 44.4
Canel, Buck 8 44.4 Caray, Harry 7 38.9
Krichell, Paul 8 44.4 Carey, Skip 1 5.6
………. … …. …. Chandler, Happy 3 16.7
Caray, Harry 7 38.9 Chylak, Nestor 5 27.8
………. … …. …. Conlan, Jocko 3 16.7
Martin, Billy 6 33.3 Dineen, Bill 1 5.6
Steinbrenner, G 6 33.3 Doucet, Jacques 5 27.8
………. … …. …. Evans, Billy 2 11.1
Bolden, Ed 5 27.8 Feller, Sherm 1 5.6
Chylak, Nestor 5 27.8 Flood, Curt 4 22.2
Doucet, Jacques 5 27.8 Foster, John B. 4 22.2
Jobe, Frank 5 27.8 Frick, Ford 4 22.2
Lardner, Ring 5 27.8 Fullerton, Hugh 2 11.1
………. … …. …. Greenlee, Gus 1 5.6
Barlick, Al 4 22.2 Grimm, Charlie 2 11.1
Buck, Jack 4 22.2 Haak, Howie 1 5.6
Flood, Curt 4 22.2 Harris, Bucky 2 11.1
Foster, John B. 4 22.2 Harris, Vic 3 16.7
Frick, Ford 4 22.2 Harvey, Doug 2 11.1
O'Doul, Lefty 4 22.2 Hodges, Russ 1 5.6
………. … …. …. Hubbard, Cal 3 16.7
Chandler, Happy 3 16.7 Jennings, H 13 72.2
Conlan, Jocko 3 16.7 Jobe, Frank 5 27.8
Harris, Vic 3 16.7 Johnson, Davey 3 16.7
Hubbard, Cal 3 16.7 Kelly, Tom 1 5.6
Johnson, Davey 3 16.7 Krichell, Paul 8 44.4
Mazzone, Leo 3 16.7 Kuhn, Bowie 1 5.6
Rice, Grantland 3 16.7 Lardner, Ring 5 27.8
Schuerholtz, J 3 16.7 MacPhail, Lee 1 5.6
Shoriki, M 3 16.7 Martin, Billy 6 33.3
Tsuruoka, K 3 16.7 Mazzone, Leo 3 16.7
………. … …. …. Mills, A.G. 1 5.6
Brickhouse, J 2 11.1 Mizuhara, S 1 5.6
Evans, Billy 2 11.1 Mutrie, Jim 2 11.1
Fullerton, Hugh 2 11.1 Norworth, Jack 1 5.6
Grimm, Charlie 2 11.1 O'Doul, Lefty 4 22.2
Harris, Bucky 2 11.1 O'Neil, Buck 15 83.3
Harvey, Doug 2 11.1 Pasquel, Jorge 1 5.6
Mutrie, Jim 2 11.1 Patkin, Max 1 5.6
Pesky, Johnny 2 11.1 Pearce, Dickey 1 5.6
Piniella, Lou 2 11.1 Pesky, Johnny 2 11.1
Ramirez, Felo 2 11.1 Piniella, Lou 2 11.1
Ritter, L 2 11.1 Ramirez, Felo 2 11.1
Sheppard, Bob 2 11.1 Reach, A.J. 1 5.6
Thayer, Ernest 2 11.1 Rice, Grantland 3 16.7
Tyson, Ty 2 11.1 Richards, Paul 1 5.6
Yawkey, Tom 2 11.1 Ritter, L 2 11.1
………. … …. …. Schoendienst, R 1 5.6
Ashford, Emmett 1 5.6 Schuerholtz, J 3 16.7
Autry, Gene 1 5.6 Scully, Vin 9 50.0
Bouton, Jim 1 5.6 Sheppard, Bob 2 11.1
Busch, Augie 1 5.6 Shoriki, M 3 16.7
Carey, Skip 1 5.6 Smith, Red 1 5.6
Dineen, Bill 1 5.6 Steinbrenner, G 6 33.3
Feller, Sherm 1 5.6 Taylor, C.I. 12 66.7
Greenlee, Gus 1 5.6 Thayer, Ernest 2 11.1
Haak, Howie 1 5.6 Tsuruoka, K 3 16.7
Hodges, Russ 1 5.6 Tyson, Ty 2 11.1
Kelly, Tom 1 5.6 Weiss, George 9 50.0
Kuhn, Bowie 1 5.6 Weyer, Lee 1 5.6
MacPhail, Lee 1 5.6 Wright, George 1 5.6
Mills, A.G. 1 5.6 Yawkey, Tom 2 11.1
Mizuhara, S 1 5.6 …..
Norworth, Jack 1 5.6 …..
Pasquel, Jorge 1 5.6 …..
Patkin, Max 1 5.6 …..
Pearce, Dickey 1 5.6 …..
Reach, A.J. 1 5.6 …..
Richards, Paul 1 5.6 …..
Schoendienst, R 1 5.6 …..
Smith, Red 1 5.6 …..
Weyer, Lee 1 5.6 …..
Wright, George 1 5.6 …..

jalbright
08-26-2006, 09:58 AM
Albright BBF HOF voting guide for September 2006

key:
blue=Negro Leagues
red=Japanese leagues
green=19th century
orange=not even in my queue
italics= not on my ballot for this month

Received 50% or more of the vote last month:
Players: Mickey Welch (50), , Ted Lyons (60), Albert Belle (60), Isao Harimoto (55), Hugh Duffy (50), George Wright (65), Max Carey (65), Bill Freehan (55), Dave Parker (50), Bobby Doerr (60), Don Drysdale (60), Bruce Sutter (50), Don Sutton (60),

Contributors: C. I. Taylor (67), George Weiss (50), Hughie Jennings (72), Vin Scully (50)

Categories below this will have 1) all players with 50% or more of the votes last month (percentages from last month will follow their names in parentheses), 2) all players on my ballot, and 3) if there are no players in the category with over 50% of the vote last month, the leading vote getter in the category will be listed with his percentage of the vote last month in parentheses, so long as he received at least five (5) votes.

Negro League Pitcher Cannonball Dick Redding (40)

Negro League Hitters Pete Hill (30) , Frank Grant, Willard Brown (30)

19th century pitcher Mickey Welch (50)

19th century hitter: George Wright (65),

Japanese pitcher: Kazuhisa Inao (25), Victor Starffin (25), Akira Bessho

Japanese hitter: Isao Harimoto (55), Hiromitsu Ochiai

My ballot by position plus leading vote getters
Catcher: Bill Freehan (55)
First Base: Hiromitsu Ochiai, Will Clark (35)
Second Base: Frank Grant , Bobby Doerr (60)
Third Base: Ken Boyer (35)
Shortstop: George Wright (65), Dobie Moore
Outfield: Isao Harimoto, (55), Max Carey (65) Dave Parker (50), Pete Hill (30), Albert Belle (60), Hugh Duffy (50), Willard Brown (30), Elmer Flick (30),
Starting Pitcher: Kazuhisa Inao (25) , Victor Starffin (25), Akira Bessho, Burleigh Grimes, Cannonball Dick Redding (40), Ted Lyons (60), Mickey Welch (50), Carl Mays (45), Don Drysdale (60), Red Ruffing (30), Don Sutton (60)
Relief pitcher Rollie Fingers (45), Bruce Sutter (50)

Contributors
Managers: Hughie Jennings (72), Vic Harris, C. I. Taylor (67), , Kazuto Tsuruoka , Shigeru Mizuhara, Billy Martin (33)
Executives: Paul Krichell (44), George Weiss (50), Ed Bolden (28), Matsutaro Shoriki
Pioneers: Lefty O'Doul , Dr. Frank Jobe (28)
Media: Harry Caray (39), Vin Scully (50), Buck Canel (44)


Plugs for first time player candidates will appear in the discussion thread, and I will create a thread which will provide the plugs for all the holdovers on my ballot not covered in the discussion thread this month.

jalbright
08-26-2006, 09:59 AM
Players with 50% or more of the vote last month

On my ballot this month

Ted Lyons (baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=405603&postcount=178)

Isao Harimoto (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=405875&postcount=182)

Max Carey (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=540575&postcount=262)

George Wright (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361608&postcount=98)

Hugh Duffy (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=534926&postcount=258)

Dave Parker (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=421713&postcount=194)

Bill Freehan (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=443042&postcount=210)

Don Drysdale (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=443195&postcount=215)

Don Sutton (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=425947&postcount=203)

Bobby Doerr (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=540607&postcount=265)


Probably will support in the near future

Bruce Sutter (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=466733&postcount=230)


Players I'm not supporting and why

Albert Belle (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=378081&postcount=151)

Mickey Welch (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=413488&postcount=190)

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:00 AM
Contributors with 50% or more of last month's vote

C. I. Taylor built the Indianapolis ABCs into a powerhouse franchise in the teens. Riley says he is one of the two "geniuses" to manage in the Negro Leagues, the other being Rube Foster. For more about him, see this post: C. I. Taylor (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361405&postcount=62)

George Weiss see this post George Weiss (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=662111&postcount=316)

Hughie Jennings 24 James manager success points. An excellent shortstop, albeit in a short career. I can't go for him just as a player nor just as a manager, but when you combine it with his success as a manager, I can.

Vin Scully Not only has he loyally served the Dodgers for many years, he also has been prominent nationally. AG2004 points out the following: Scully holds the record for most World Series by an English-language broadcaster, including 23 national broadcasts.

Television
NBC - 1953, 1955, 1956, 1959, 1963, 1965, 1966, 1974, 1984, 1986, 1988

Radio
NBC - 1966
CBS - 1979-82, 1990-93, 1995-97

Also, the American Sportscasters Association voted him the ASA Sportscaster of the Century Award in 2000.

Between the number of postseason broadcasts and the high regard he has among his peers, I think Scully is worthy of induction.

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:01 AM
New to my ballot this month:

Vin Scully Not only has he loyally served the Dodgers for many years, he also has been prominent nationally. AG2004 points out the following: Scully holds the record for most World Series by an English-language broadcaster, including 23 national broadcasts.

Television
NBC - 1953, 1955, 1956, 1959, 1963, 1965, 1966, 1974, 1984, 1986, 1988

Radio
NBC - 1966
CBS - 1979-82, 1990-93, 1995-97

Also, the American Sportscasters Association voted him the ASA Sportscaster of the Century Award in 2000.

Between the number of postseason broadcasts and the high regard he has among his peers, I think Scully is worthy of induction.

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:02 AM
Negro Leaguers

Pitchers

Cannonball Dick Redding (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361387&postcount=52)

Position players

Pete Hill (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361391&postcount=55)

Frank Grant (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361376&postcount=47)

Dobie Moore (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361398&postcount=59)

Willard Brown (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=608541&postcount=300)

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:02 AM
19th century players

Pitcher: Mickey Welch is not even in my queue

Position players:

George Wright (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361608&postcount=98)

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:03 AM
Japanese Players

Pitchers

Kazuhisa Inao (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=404359&postcount=176)

Victor Starffin (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=404363&postcount=177)

Akira Bessho (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=409062&postcount=187)


Position Players

Isao Harimoto (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=405875&postcount=184)

Hiromitsu Ochiai (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=409082&postcount=190)

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:04 AM
position players other than OF on my ballot

Catcher

Bill Freehan (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=443042&postcount=210)

First Base

Hiromitsu Ochiai (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=409082&postcount=188)

Will Clark (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=443216&postcount=218)

Second Base

Frank Grant (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361376&postcount=47)

Bobby Doerr (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=540607&postcount=265)

Third Base

Ken Boyer is in my queue, but not yet on my ballot

Shortstop

George Wright (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361608&postcount=98)

Dobie Moore (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361398&postcount=59)

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:05 AM
Outfielders and Pitchers on my ballot

Outfielders

Isao Harimoto (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=405875&postcount=182)

Max Carey (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=540575&postcount=262)

Dave Parker (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=421713&postcount=194)

Pete Hill (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361391&postcount=55)

Hugh Duffy (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=534926&postcount=258)

Elmer Flick (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=540581&postcount=263)

Willard Brown (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=608541&postcount=300)

Albert Belle is not in my queue



Pitchers

Cannonball Dick Redding (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361387&postcount=52)

Kazuhisa Inao (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=404359&postcount=176)

Victor Starffin (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=404363&postcount=177)

Red Ruffing (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=408323&postcount=184)

Akira Bessho (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=409062&postcount=187)

Burleigh Grimes (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=443047&postcount=211)

Rollie Fingers (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=469902&postcount=232)

Ted Lyons (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=405603&postcount=178)

Don Drysdale (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=443195&postcount=215)

Don Sutton (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=425947&postcount=203)

Carl Mays (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545938&postcount=279)

Mickey Welch is not in my queue. Bruce Sutter is in my queue, but not on my ballot

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:06 AM
MLB contributors on my ballot

Pioneer

Dr. Jobe His invention of the Tommy John surgery has saved countless pitching careers, including, of course, Tommy John's.

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Media
Harry Caray Though his status as a Chicago baseball mainstay is important, lots of announcers have that qualification and I'm not voting for them. What sets Harry apart in my mind is his role in popularizing the use of "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" for the seventh inning stretch. Put the two together, and I think he qualifies.

Buck Canel announced 42 World Series to the Latin American audience via the Cabalgata Deportivo Gillette, and was the first Spanish-language broadcaster to win the Frick Award


Major League managers
The major league managers I think I'd put in, together with their Manager's success points (as calculated by Bill James this time) and any comments I have:

Billy Martin 29 points .His behavior was poor, and he wore out his welcome quickly no matter where he went. But if you wanted to win right now, there was nobody better while he was around managing.

Hughie Jennings 24 points. See this post: Hughie Jennings (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=677571&postcount=317)
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Major League executives

George Weiss see this post George Weiss (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=662111&postcount=316)

Paul Krichell The man who scouted many of the best players to stock Weiss' Yankee farm system.

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:07 AM
Contributors from outside MLB on my ballot

Japanese managers
Success points are a Bill James creation. The numbers given are not discounted in any way, and are from a system I modeled on James' system, but isn't identical to it.

Kazuto Tsuruoka Manager's Success Points: 70
He is Japan's winningest manager, with 1807 regular season victories to his credit as well as a .609 winning percentage. His teams were over .500 in 21 of the 23 seasons he managed, and he won 11 pennants. In those 11 pennants was a stretch of 4 pennants in five years and another stretch of 4 pennants in six years.

Shigeru Mizuhara Manager's Success Points: 62
He won eight pennants in nine years from 1951 to 1959 for the Yomiuri Giants. He also won four Japan Series in the period 1951 to 1955 and won a pennant for the Flyers.
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other contributors on my ballot:

Ed Bolden Owned two franchises (not at the same time) in the Philadelphia area, Hilldale and later, the Philadelphia Stars in addition to being the founder and commissioner of the Eastern Colored League, all while holding down a day job as a postal employee. For more about him, see this post: Ed Bolden (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361408&postcount=64)

C. I. Taylor built the Indianapolis ABCs into a powerhouse franchise in the teens. Riley says he is one of the two "geniuses" to manage in the Negro Leagues, the other being Rube Foster. For more about him, see this post: C. I. Taylor (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361405&postcount=62)

Vic Harris Won seven pennants with the Homestead Grays, 5 of them consecutively. He had a lot of talent, but with that talent comes egos, and he managed to keep them on top. Also a talented player. Probably a good analogy is Joe Torre. For more about him, see this post: Vic Harris (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361404&postcount=61)

Matsutaro Shoriki: The father of Japanese professional baseball. See this post for more about him: Matsutaro Shoriki (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=442707&postcount=209)

Lefty O'Doul A pretty good player who adds the fact he was a key player in getting professional baseball established in Japan. See this post for more about him: Lefty O’Doul (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=442707&postcount=209)

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:07 AM
At this point, we stop dealing with who is on my ballot, and start dealing with who is left in my queues and the reasons for those selections.

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:08 AM
Negro League players not on my ballot but in my queue and tough cases from those leagues

Negro League position players not yet on my ballot:

Home Run Johnson (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361381&postcount=48)

John Beckwith (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361394&postcount=57)

Alejandro Oms (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361402&postcount=60)


Negro League Pitchers not yet on my ballot

Leon Day (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361390&postcount=54)

Hilton Smith (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361397&postcount=58)


Some hard cases from the Negro Leagues

Perucho Cepeda (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361551&postcount=75)

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:08 AM
19th century players not yet on my ballot

Hardy Richardson (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=393617&postcount=163)

Charlie Bennett (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=393654&postcount=165)

Jack Glasscock (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=541463&postcount=271)

Ezra Sutton (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=393634&postcount=164)

Joe Kelley (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=546231&postcount=285)

George Gore (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=546237&postcount=286)


Tony Mullane (pitcher) (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=370012&postcount=139)


Hard cases from the 19th century

Joe Start (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361596&postcount=95)

Herman Long (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=541460&postcount=270)

Mickey Welch (pitcher) (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=413488&postcount=190)

Bob Caruthers (pitcher) (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547693&postcount=288)

Pete Browning (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547693&postcount=288)

George Van Haltren (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=540589&postcount=264)


Some good 19th century players I don't think I can support and why

Lip Pike (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361594&postcount=94)

Ross Barnes (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=371259&postcount=146)

Jake Beckley ( http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=631272&postcount=305 )

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:09 AM
Japanese pitchers not yet on my ballot:

Masaaki Koyama (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=409058&postcount=186)

Yutaka Enatsu (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=409056&postcount=185)


Tough case from Japan

Koji Yamamoto (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=409094&postcount=189)

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:10 AM
Major league infielders from 20th century and after:

Sal Bando (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=541453&postcount=267)

Orlando Cepeda (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545922&postcount=277)

Larry Doyle (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=443705&postcount=222)

Nellie Fox (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=443211&postcount=217)

Heinie Groh (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=541455&postcount=268)

Bid McPhee (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=541457&postcount=269)

Tony Perez (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=443202&postcount=216)

Vern Stephens (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=540615&postcount=266)

Bobby Wallace (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=389113&postcount=160)

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:12 AM
Major league pitchers and outfielders from 1900 on


Major league outfielders from 20th century and after:

Sam Rice (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545914&postcount=276)



Major league pitchers from 20th century and after

Jim Bunning (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=443193&postcount=214)

Billy Pierce (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=542251&postcount=273)

Dan Quisenberry (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=466735&postcount=231)

Eppa Rixey (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=395028&postcount=166)

Bruce Sutter (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=466733&postcount=230)

Bucky Walters (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=542245&postcount=272)

Vic Willis (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=425940&postcount=202)

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:13 AM
Tough choices from 20th century and after MLB:


Luis Aparicio (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545948&postcount=281)

Ken Boyer (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=546225&postcount=284)

Kevin Brown (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=631270&postcount=304)

Wilber Cooper (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545954&postcount=283)

Darrell Evans (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547259&postcount=287)

Red Faber (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545932&postcount=278)

Wes Ferrell (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545952&postcount=282)

Catfish Hunter (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545909&postcount=275)

Tommy Leach (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547259&postcount=287)

Rabbit Maranville (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547259&postcount=287)

Edgar Martinez ( http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=631268&postcount=303 )

Graig Nettles (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547259&postcount=287)

Herb Pennock (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547259&postcount=287)

Johnny Pesky (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545940&postcount=280)

Joe Sewell (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547259&postcount=287)

Lou Whitaker (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547259&postcount=287)

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:13 AM
Some prominent Negro Leaguers I'm not likely to support and why:


Spotswood Poles (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=368354&postcount=132)

Ben Taylor (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=368356&postcount=133)

Bingo DeMoss (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=368356&postcount=133)

Oliver Marcelle (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=368356&postcount=133)

Judy Johnson (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=368357&postcount=134)

Chino Smith (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=369995&postcount=137)

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:14 AM
Prominent major league candidates I'm not likely to support and why:


Albert Belle (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=378081&postcount=151)

Bobby Bonds (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=387233&postcount=159)

Roger Bresnahan (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=369471&postcount=136)

Joe Carter (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=363435&postcount=125)

Kiki Cuyler (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=631265&postcount=301)

Steve Garvey (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=363442&postcount=126)

Keith Hernandez (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=531939&postcount=257)

Gil Hodges (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=367384&postcount=131)

Addie Joss (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=485853&postcount=240)

Chuck Klein (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=380614&postcount=155)

Heinie Manush (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=631266&postcount=302)

Roger Maris (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=421141&postcount=193)

Bill Mazeroski (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=363248&postcount=124)

Fred McGriff (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=457494&postcount=228)

Tony Oliva (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=481524&postcount=237)

Jim Rice (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=363435&postcount=125)

Maury Wills (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=608273&postcount=299)

Jimmy Wynn (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=386606&postcount=157)

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:15 AM
From here on in, we'll look at the contributors still in my queue.

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:15 AM
Media contributors not yet on my ballot:

My contributors in the Media category are rather few, as I want somebody with a significant impact on a national level. Also, if one's contribution is limited to a single book, it has to be as earthshaking as the first Macmillan encyclopedia (sorry, Jim Bouton!).

Ty Tyson He is the first to regularly broadcast team games over radio

Felo Ramirez became Canel's partner in 1950 just five years after his on-air debut in Cuba, broadcast 31 World Series and 40 Caribbean Series to the Spanish-speaking world

David Neft Headed up the enormous and enormously important project of creating the first modern baseball encyclopedia, the first Macmillan Encyclopedia

Al Munro Elias For his role as a popularizer of baseball statistics

Vin Scully Not only has he loyally served the Dodgers for many years, he also has been prominent nationally. AG2004 points out the following: Scully holds the record for most World Series by an English-language broadcaster, including 23 national broadcasts.

Television
NBC - 1953, 1955, 1956, 1959, 1963, 1965, 1966, 1974, 1984, 1986, 1988

Radio
NBC - 1966
CBS - 1979-82, 1990-93, 1995-97

Also, the American Sportscasters Association voted him the ASA Sportscaster of the Century Award in 2000.

Between the number of postseason broadcasts and the high regard he has among his peers, I think Scully is worthy of induction.

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:16 AM
Pioneers not yet on my ballot

Dickey Pearce He was at least a good player in the pre 1871 era, and maybe even great. Add to that he invented bunting and made shortstop a key defensive position, I think he deserves a spot.

Dan Okrent Developer of Rotisserie Baseball and also played a large role iin bringing Bill James to the attention of a national audience. Actually, though, he's not eligible for the BBF HOF until April 2008 unless he dies or retires before then.

Bob Davids the driving force behind the founding of SABR

Charles A. Leavitt, Jr. The architect fot the first concrete and steel ballpark, Forbes Field. After seeing it, every team wanted one for itself.

Joe Spear Headed the Camden Yards project. Combined the old style park charm with modern amenities. Every team wanted a park like it, spawning the recent park building surge. However, he won't be eligible for the BBF HOF until 2013 unless he dies or retires before then.

Ted Giannoulas, aka the San Diego Chicken There were baseball clowns before him, but he's the one who popularized the mascot/clown role so that everybody has one. I note his birthdate is 1953, so he's ineligible for the BBF HOF until 2013 unless he dies or retires first.

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:17 AM
Japanese managers in my queue but not yet on my ballot:

My list of qualified Japanese managers. Success points are a Bill James creation. The numbers given are not discounted in any way, and are from a system I modeled on James' system, but isn't identical to it.

Sadayoshi Fujimoto Manager's Success Points: 49
He established the Yomiuri club as a powerhouse, winning pennants in every season from the 1938 Fall season through 1943.

Osamu Mihara Manager's Success Points: 44
He won pennants as a manager for three different franchises, most notably the Lion dynasty he presided over. He won 4 Japan Series in a stretch of five years.

Masaaki Mori Manager's Success Points: 42
He won 7 pennants in 8 years, and six Japan Series in seven years within that stretch.

Yukio Nishimoto Manager's Success Points: 43
He won pennants for three franchises and had a stretch of five pennants in six years. Unfortunately, though he led eight teams to the Japan Series, he never grabbed the brass ring, five of the losses coming to Kawakami's "V-9" Giants.

Toshiharu Ueda Manager's Success Points: 39
He won four pennants in a row, capturing the Japan Series title in a stretch of three consecutive years within that period.

jalbright
08-26-2006, 10:17 AM
Negro League contributors not yet on my ballot:

Frank Warfield Won four pennants for three different teams: 2 with Hilldale, 1 with the Baltimore Black Sox, and 1 with Santa Clara in the Cuban league. Also a talented player. For more about him, see this post Frank Warfield (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361407&postcount=63)

Sol White (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=491052&postcount=244)

Jose Mendez (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=491052&postcount=244)

Andy Cooper (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=491052&postcount=244)

jalbright
09-04-2006, 06:14 AM
Voting status as of Eastvanmungo's ballot

Player votes counted: 14
Projected total votes for players: 22
Projected votes needed for election of player: 17

Only presenting players with at least 10 votes. Anybody else needs vote changes, new voters, and/or to run the table to get elected.


Player votes % prjctd chance
Carey 12 85.7 15 62
Doerr 11 78.6 13 37
Wright 11 78.6 16 73
Lyons 10 71.4 12 22


Contributor votes counted: 12
projected total votes for contributors: 21
projected votes for election of contributor: 16

Only presenting candidates with at least 8 votes. Anybody else needs vote changes, new voters, and/or to run the table to get elected.


Contributor votes % prjctd chance
Jennings 10 83.3 15 77
Taylor 10 83.3 13 52
Scully 9 75.0 13 44
Weiss 8 66.7 10 19





The "votes" category in each table is the official vote count as of the time cited above, and the % is the percentage of votes counted as of that same time. The "prjctd" is the sum of votes already gotten plus the number of votes received from last month's voters whose votes have not yet been counted this month. The chance is a percentage estimate of the individual's chance of being elected this month.


Jim Albright

jalbright
09-16-2006, 01:29 PM
It's about time for an update on where we are on the voting. It's actually pretty simple. Through dgarza's ballot, we've got six voters from last month who haven't voted, plus the open spots on Coop's ballot. However, the only name we'll discuss that isn't on Coop's ballot is Hughie Jennings among the contributors.

On the players side, Bobby Doerr can make it if he sweeps the remaining votes with a minimum of three such votes. Given that only two of the outstanding voters named him last month, that seems unlikely.

Max Carey and George Wright are tied at 13 votes, which means that if there are 1 or 2 more votes, they have to get them all, and if there's 3 to 6 votes, they need all but one. Wright had 4 votes of the 6 outstanding votes, so he's got a solid chance. Carey had 3 from that group, so his chances can't be considered better than a little below 50%.

On the contributor side, C. I. Taylor has 12 votes. He can absorb being left off of one ballot in up to the next four, and 2 if we get five or six ballots. He only had three votes last month from the outstanding voters, so it's neck and neck for him.

Hughie Jennings has 11 votes, but wasn't on the Coop's ballot. If the Coop goes for Hughie, he's in great shape, because he'd move into Taylor's situation described above, and he had four votes from the outstanding voters. If not, he's still got a good shot.

Vin Scully also has 11 votes. He needs at least one more vote, and from the second to the fourth, he needs all the votes cast. If five or six votes are cast, he can absorb being left off of one ballot. However, he only received three of the outstanding six votes, so he's got to be seen as a longshot.

jalbright
09-16-2006, 01:39 PM
Updated post #16 to reflect an expanded argument on behalf of Hughie Jennings as a contributor.