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csiedem
08-24-2006, 08:17 PM
just saw an interview with mike scoscia in which it was casually mentioned that he was 1 of 17 in history that have won the world series as both players and managers. who are the other 16?

1905 Giants
08-24-2006, 09:31 PM
Yogi Berra
Billy Martin
Hank Bauer
Lou Pinella
Davey Johnson
Casey Stengel
Leo Durocher
Gil Hodges
Tris Speaker
Red Schoendienst

SamtheBravesFan
08-24-2006, 10:18 PM
John McGraw
Ralph Houk
Bob Lemon
Bucky Harris
Fred Clarke
Frankie Frisch

All done!

wamby
08-25-2006, 04:55 AM
Lou Boudreau did it.
Mickey Cochrane
Fielder Jones

RuthMayBond
08-25-2006, 08:00 AM
Does Frank Chance count?

RuthMayBond
08-25-2006, 08:05 AM
Bill Carrigan?

RuthMayBond
08-25-2006, 08:07 AM
Jimmy Collins?

RuthMayBond
08-25-2006, 08:08 AM
Charles Comiskey?

RuthMayBond
08-25-2006, 08:11 AM
Alvin Dark?

RuthMayBond
08-25-2006, 08:17 AM
Rogers Hornsby?

RuthMayBond
08-25-2006, 08:26 AM
Pat Moran?

RuthMayBond
08-25-2006, 08:28 AM
Steve O'Neill?

RuthMayBond
08-25-2006, 08:37 AM
Billy Southworth?

RuthMayBond
08-25-2006, 08:39 AM
Gabby Street?

RuthMayBond
08-25-2006, 08:41 AM
Bill Terry? We may end up with > 17

soberdennis
08-25-2006, 04:48 PM
Berra never won a Series as a manager. Comiskey won one only as an owner.
Counting only since 1903, you can't count McGraw either.

RuthMayBond
08-25-2006, 06:46 PM
Comiskey won one only as an owner.Comiskey was a player/mgr in 1886

<Counting only since 1903, you can't count McGraw either.> Ok, if ya wanna play that way, that'll take care of Comiskey too

mojorisin71
08-25-2006, 08:44 PM
Counting only WS since 1903:

Jimmy Collins (1903 Red Sox)
John McGraw (1905 Giants)
Fielder Jones (1906 White Sox)
Frank Chance (1907 Cubs, 1908 Cubs)
Fred Clarke (1909 Pirates)
Jake Stahl (1912 Red Sox)
Bill Carrigan (1915 Red Sox, 1916 Red Sox)
Pat Moran (1906 Cubs, 1907 Cubs/1919 Reds)
Tris Speaker (1920 Indians)
Bucky Harris (1924 Senators/1947 Yankees)
Rogers Hornsby (1926 Cardinals)
Gabby Street (1931 Cardinals)
Bill Terry (1933 Giants)
Frankie Frisch (1921 Giants, 1922 Giants, 1931 Cardinals, 1934 Cardinals)
Mickey Cochrane (1929 A's, 1930 A's, 1935 Tigers)
Billy Southworth (1926 Cardinals/1942 Cardinals, 1944 Cardinals)
Steve O'Neill (1920 Indians/1945 Tigers)
Eddie Dyer (1926 Cardinals/1946 Cardinals)
Lou Boudreau (1948 Indians)
Casey Stengel (1921 Giants, 1922 Giants/1949 Yankees, 1950 Yankees, 1951 Yankees, 1952 Yankees, 1953 Yankees, 1956 Yankees, 1958 Yankees)
Leo Durocher (1928 Yankees, 1934 Cardinals/1954 Giants)
Ralph Houk (1947 Yankees, 1949 Yankees, 1950 Yankees, 1951 Yankees, 1952 Yankees, 1953 Yankees/1961 Yankees, 1962 Yankees)
Red Schoendienst (1946 Cardinals, 1957 Braves/1967 Cardinals)
Hank Bauer (1949 Yankees, 1950 Yankees, 1951 Yankees, 1952 Yankees, 1953 Yankees, 1956 Yankees, 1958 Yankees/1966 Orioles)
Gil Hodges (1955 Dodgers, 1959 Dodgers/1969 Mets)
Alvin Dark (1954 Giants/1974 A's)
Billy Martin (1950 Yankees, 1951 Yankees, 1952 Yankees, 1953 Yankees, 1956 Yankees/1977 Yankees)
Bob Lemon (1948 Indians/1978 Yankees)
Davey Johnson (1966 Orioles, 1970 Orioles/1986 Mets)
Lou Piniella (1977 Yankees, 1978 Yankees/1990 Reds)
Mike Scioscia (1981 Dodgers, 1988 Dodgers/2002 Angels)

That's 31...

mojorisin71
08-25-2006, 08:45 PM
Berra never won a Series as a manager. Comiskey won one only as an owner.
Counting only since 1903, you can't count McGraw either.
McGraw played in three games in 1905, when he won the WS with the Giants.

Utter Chaos
08-25-2006, 08:55 PM
Counting only WS since 1903:

Jimmy Collins (1903 Red Sox)
John McGraw (1905 Giants)
Fielder Jones (1906 White Sox)
Frank Chance (1907 Cubs, 1908 Cubs)
Fred Clarke (1909 Pirates)
Jake Stahl (1912 Red Sox)
Bill Carrigan (1915 Red Sox, 1916 Red Sox)
Pat Moran (1906 Cubs, 1907 Cubs/1919 Reds)
Tris Speaker (1920 Indians)
Bucky Harris (1924 Senators/1947 Yankees)
Rogers Hornsby (1926 Cardinals)
Gabby Street (1931 Cardinals)
Bill Terry (1933 Giants)
Frankie Frisch (1921 Giants, 1922 Giants, 1931 Cardinals, 1934 Cardinals)
Mickey Cochrane (1929 A's, 1930 A's, 1935 Tigers)
Billy Southworth (1926 Cardinals/1942 Cardinals, 1944 Cardinals)
Steve O'Neill (1920 Indians/1945 Tigers)
Eddie Dyer (1926 Cardinals/1946 Cardinals)
Lou Boudreau (1948 Indians)
Casey Stengel (1921 Giants, 1922 Giants/1949 Yankees, 1950 Yankees, 1951 Yankees, 1952 Yankees, 1953 Yankees, 1956 Yankees, 1958 Yankees)
Leo Durocher (1928 Yankees, 1934 Cardinals/1954 Giants)
Ralph Houk (1947 Yankees, 1949 Yankees, 1950 Yankees, 1951 Yankees, 1952 Yankees, 1953 Yankees/1961 Yankees, 1962 Yankees)
Red Schoendienst (1946 Cardinals, 1957 Braves/1967 Cardinals)
Hank Bauer (1949 Yankees, 1950 Yankees, 1951 Yankees, 1952 Yankees, 1953 Yankees, 1956 Yankees, 1958 Yankees/1966 Orioles)
Gil Hodges (1955 Dodgers, 1959 Dodgers/1969 Mets)
Alvin Dark (1954 Giants/1974 A's)
Billy Martin (1950 Yankees, 1951 Yankees, 1952 Yankees, 1953 Yankees, 1956 Yankees/1977 Yankees)
Bob Lemon (1948 Indians/1978 Yankees)
Davey Johnson (1966 Orioles, 1970 Orioles/1986 Mets)
Lou Piniella (1977 Yankees, 1978 Yankees/1990 Reds)
Mike Scioscia (1981 Dodgers, 1988 Dodgers/2002 Angels)

That's 31...What if you took out the player/managers? It looks like that would knock it down to around 19 or so. Maybe that's what Scoiscia was referring to.

mojorisin71
08-25-2006, 09:00 PM
Without the player/managers, you have exactly 17 with Harris as a technicality.