View Full Version : Favourite Slow Stuff Pitchers
albertpujols
07-23-2006, 07:15 PM
My favourite is Chris Hammond of the Reds. His wicked changeup and circle-change is 55-70 mph at best, and throws flat low 80's for his slider and fastball.
Tim Wakefield throws that 55-70 mph knuckleball, with his weak fastball...
Jamie Moyer has the changeup, curveball, and circle-change in the mix...
Those are some that come to mind. Any others?
Seattle1
07-23-2006, 07:19 PM
My favourite is Chris Hammond of the Reds. His wicked changeup and circle-change is 55-70 mph at best, and throws flat low 80's for his slider and fastball.
Tim Wakefield throws that 55-70 mph knuckleball, with his weak fastball...
Jamie Moyer has the changeup, curveball, and circle-change in the mix...
Those are some that come to mind. Any others?
I love watching Jamie Moyer pitch, he is a real strategic expert who can be very successful without being powerful. But I'm a little worried after his last start...5 home runs! :ughh
I hope he hasn't lost it.
RedSoxVT92
07-23-2006, 07:23 PM
I love Tim Wakefield. Wakefields knucklers have alot of movement on them and he can control it well anyways. He also has a pretty good curve and a slow fastball that he usaully only uses on 3-0 counts.
albertpujols
07-23-2006, 07:28 PM
I love Tim Wakefield. Wakefields knucklers have alot of movement on them and he can control it well anyways. He also has a pretty good curve and a slow fastball that he usaully only uses on 3-0 counts.
Yeah I know it's fun just watching him. He is surely different than that of other pitchers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLrJnJyqEwA&search=Tim%20Wakefield
Talk about movement.
Honus Wagner
07-23-2006, 07:36 PM
All-time:
Rip Sewell oophus pitch that Teddy Ball-game lost in the stands
Dave LaRoche's "La-Lob"
Satchel Paige taking a little off his 95MPH fastball, with a 55MPH euphus
Fernando's tantalizing change up
Bad moment for Sox Nation: Bill Lee vs. Tony Perez
plask_stirlac
07-23-2006, 07:44 PM
Unit threw an Eephus once, hitter called time late.
Probably Moyer. I've heard his circle change can be abused in video games, so that's slow nasty stuff.
I forgot Greinke's curve.
Gee Walker
07-23-2006, 08:25 PM
A guy named Stu Miller pitched for the Orioles in the 60's - he threw rainbows at various speeds, with pinpoint control. I remember him best watching the All-Star game from Candlestick Park in the early 60's - a wind gust blew him off the mound!
Doug Jones put together a very good career as a relief ace whose top fastball probably hit around 80 mph. Everything else was slower, and even slower.
Wade8813
07-23-2006, 08:51 PM
Jamie Moyer's definitely my favorite.
I believe I remember reading a quote about Grover Alexander saying that a catcher could catch him using his teeth. Just the imagery of that alone is priceless to me.
Dravecky43
07-23-2006, 09:09 PM
My favorites are a few guys that went to Fresno State and retired in the last 5 years: Bobby Jones and Mark Gardner. After Jones beat Gardner and the Giants :ughh in game 4 of the 2000 NLDS for the Mets, the article about the game said Jones' pitches were "Slow, slower, and slowest." And I think Gardner threw a nine-inning no-no in the 80s for Montreal only to lose it in extras.
baseball junkie
07-24-2006, 07:12 AM
Anybody seen Randy Johnson pitch this year? He's not exactly lighting up the gun anymore. Then again he probably isn't even my favorite self-centered, totally self-absorbed jerk on the Yankees, so...
KCGHOST
07-24-2006, 08:14 AM
A guy named Stu Miller pitched for the Orioles in the 60's - he threw rainbows at various speeds, with pinpoint control. I remember him best watching the All-Star game from Candlestick Park in the early 60's - a wind gust blew him off the mound!
Miller was the master of an unbelievably slow curve.
trosmok
07-24-2006, 09:24 AM
The last of the great spitballers was the oldest player in the bigs for two seasons, and the crafty Hawaiian had the strangest repetoire of nearly any pitcher in history. He was known as a knuckler, but it was readily assumed he doctored the ball with soap flakes rubbed onto his pans legs, oily junk on the bill of his cap, and a razor sharp thumbnail that could nip a seam with a mere touch, as well as undocumented stuff on his stuff.
Wake and Morris might have the best movement and off-speed stuff among current pitchers, but anyone that can throw a twelve-to-sixer in there for strike three gets a tip o' the cap from me.
In the eighties, Scott Sanderson was one of the best at that huge arcing dropping curve; he once went eight innings of scoreless relief for my Cubs against the Pirates, but the little bears couldn't manage to push one across that day, either. Sounds like this year, doesn't it?
When interleague games were brand new, I recall seeing the Mets Dave Mlicki (sp?) pitch a complete game shutout at Yankee Stadium, buckling Jeter with a wicked top-to-bottom curve for the final out. Problem is, though, anyone that has mastered the big curve or slow ball also has days when they tend to hang everything, and need a neck brace after the game.:eek:
Thunder John
07-24-2006, 11:38 AM
Mike Cuellar was pretty good too. He'd throw empty beer cans, frisbees, trash can lids and wads of cotton, then follow it up with a 92-mph burner.
He dealt more trash than Fred Sanford.
Thunder John
Rainbow in the Dark
willie24fan
07-24-2006, 12:55 PM
Frank Tanana (post op)
Luis Tiant
Currently, its got to be Trevor Hoffman.
bluezebra
07-24-2006, 02:45 PM
AMAZING. Not one mention of Greg Maddux.
Bob
Mattingly
07-24-2006, 03:32 PM
AMAZING. Not one mention of Greg Maddux.
BobI don't remember when it was, but once on a TV interview the night before a game (must've been around 2002), there was some classic matchup between Randy Johnson and Greg Maddux. Randy mentioned that Greg has been doing it all those years w/o a 95mph heater. To me, that was a great compliment.
I also remember around the same time, El Duque was throwing a eephus pitch. It was the slowest thing we'd ever seen and most of us hadn't ever even heard of that pitch. Anyway, on seeing it a second time, Alex Rodriguez hit one into the seats. So much for that experiment.
Francoeurstein
07-24-2006, 03:46 PM
I liked Brave Phil Neikro with his knuckler. never seen it but my dad awlays talks about him.
sopclod
07-24-2006, 03:54 PM
I remember watching Charlie Hough in his final season which was with the Marlins. He was 47 I believe, but he looked like he was about 74. At that time it wasn't cool yet for young players to wear their socks over their pants, so all these things, plus is slow style, made it look like some old geezer was up there tossing batting practice... but he was getting major league hitters out.
Erik Bedard
07-24-2006, 07:57 PM
The Leephus.
redlegsfan21
07-25-2006, 08:14 AM
My favourite is Chris Hammond of the Reds. His wicked changeup and circle-change is 55-70 mph at best, and throws flat low 80's for his slider and fastball.
Just a little note. You mean Chris Hammond of Free Agency.
Go Bravos!!!#1
07-25-2006, 09:11 AM
Yeah I know it's fun just watching him. He is surely different than that of other pitchers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLrJnJyqEwA&search=Tim%20Wakefield
Talk about movement.
I throw a pitch like that. I call it my "yakker".