View Full Version : hip load....need help in understanding how to do it
MannyRamirez2006
07-22-2006, 05:18 PM
How do I load my hips?? I am assuming that I want to move my front hip (left side because I bat righty) in towards the catcher but I don't know how to do this while striding. I notice that David Wright and Pujols seem to clearly demonstrate a good hip load without a stride so it seems to me that it is much easier to do it their way but is there any drill that I can practice to teach muscle memory to correctly load my hips and put the weight on the inner thigh of my back leg?? Thanx for your time...
MannyRamirez2006
07-26-2006, 06:43 AM
anybody???????
swingbuster
07-26-2006, 11:08 AM
Mark..why not answer the question to the best of your ability and participate in the discussion on this site. You have quite a grasp on the swing physics personally and many people would like to read what you have to say on the subject.
Mattingly's posted B-F regs said that occasional sitings of specific threads would be allowed to commercial sites.
He might need to define occasional or you might have to make a statement rather than a reference once in a while.
We will see how that plays out .
MannyRamirez2006
07-26-2006, 03:09 PM
can you please give me the explanation. It asked me for a password and username which I don't have. Thank you
swingbuster
07-26-2006, 05:20 PM
you have to pass commitee
Without giving away information that is not my property, you could try emulating these guys. While you are at it, pigion toe the back foot and keep slightly knock kneed in your stance.
http://www.etex.net/~cjklein/WrightSBSAP.gif
Video of your swing would get you more input.
dougmac
07-26-2006, 07:29 PM
can you please give me the explanation. It asked me for a password and username which I don't have. Thank you
Manny, I can't get on the site either, and I consider Steve a friend, so be patient and keep trying and maybe you will be able to get on it someday......maybe you won't.:noidea In the meantime, keep posting here and maybe you will pick up a few things that can help you out.
If you can post a clip of yourself, people will give you lots of advice on how to load your hips........if you are lucky, they will then teach you how to unload them which is where you want to get to anyway.
Jake Patterson
07-26-2006, 07:31 PM
I am assuming that I want to move my front hip (left side because I bat righty) in towards the catcher but I don't know how to do this while striding.
Manny I am assuming you're a young guy... I may be wrong... given that....
I am very leery teaching a rotating hip load to young hitters. I feel the problems it creates far outweigh the benefits - mainly the over-rotation of the shoulders and head. Any rotation (or rotational drag) of the head - intended or unintented can have serious ramifications.
Check out the following frame by frame of Chipper. You can see that he does not rotate his hips... I'll try to find a better example.
Maybe this will help.
I agree with GFK - film your swing...
11673
Manny I am assuming you're a young guy... I may be wrong... given that....
I am very leery teaching a rotating hip load to young hitters. I feel the problems it creates far outweigh the benefits - mainly the over-rotation of the shoulders and head. Any rotation (or rotational drag) of the head - intended or unintented can have serious ramifications.
Check out the following frame by frame of Chipper. You can see that he does not rotate his hips... I'll try to find a better example.
Maybe this will help.
I agree with GFK - film your swing...
11673
Take a look at the fourth frame into the swing. See how his front knee has turn slightly inward. At that point, his rear hip is loaded. Some have a deeper load other don't.
Jake Patterson
07-26-2006, 07:54 PM
Take a look at the fourth frame into the swing. See how his front knee has turn slightly inward. At that point, his rear hip is loaded. Some have a deeper load other don't.
Agree...
Where I get a little concerned is when young hitters start over rotating the hips back. They sometimes take the upper body and head with them.
Jake Patterson
07-26-2006, 08:09 PM
Agree...
Where I get a little concerned is when young hitters start over rotating the hips back. They sometimes take the upper body and head with them.
Manny,
Take a look at the belt loop over the pink line. You can see that he loads back not rotationally..
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MannyRamirez2006
07-27-2006, 06:55 AM
I don't know why you assume I am a young guy?? I am 23 years old and I may come across young by the way I type but I don't really care about grammar or how I ask the question I just want to ask the question and be on with it. I can talk a lot better then I can type if you know what I mean. I just don't understand why the assumption of me being young was needed at all??
I am too old to play baseball anymore so I just play softball now and it's definetley a lot different then baseball. Pitches that are called strikes in softball are much higher then baseball because of the plane of the pitch.
Thank you for the posts though I really do appreciate your time in explaining...
Ok, I think you guys are right and you really need a video of me swinging. I will try to get a camera from my friend and just do a normal dry swing and then an actual swing off live pitching. I just hope I can figure out how to get it on the computer and on the website. Is it hard to do?? Thanx for your time...
egvfastpitch
07-27-2006, 07:01 AM
You play softball now? Slowpitch or fastpitch?
If it's slowpitch, go rent "Happy Gilmore" for your best swing mechanic.
MannyRamirez2006
07-27-2006, 07:04 AM
You play softball now? Slowpitch or fastpitch?
If it's slowpitch, go rent "Happy Gilmore" for your best swing mechanic.
You don't think that rotational mechanics can be applied in slowpitch softball?? You are dead wrong.
Jake Patterson
07-27-2006, 08:10 AM
I am 23 years old and I may come across young by the way I type but I don't really care about grammar or how I ask the question I just want to ask the question and be on with it.
My appologies.
I am too old to play baseball anymore so I just play softball now and it's definetley a lot different then baseball. Agree softball is very different than baseball. Within softball there are further differences - slow pitch - modified fast pitch- and fast pitch (windmill) each having there own sets of challenges.
Now knowing this... I have seen pretty severe hip rotational load in SPSB. Still not sure I'd teach it.
Ok, I think you guys are right and you really need a video of me swinging.
This would be most helpful.
egvfastpitch
07-27-2006, 09:40 AM
You don't think that rotational mechanics can be applied in slowpitch softball?? You are dead wrong.
Manny:
You haven't seen Happy G have you? So... by your response, I gather it's slowpitch you play. Huge difference in mechanics and time to hit that vs. fastpitch.
The hip load you seek can be very, very pronounced for a slowpitch awing.
MannyRamirez2006
07-28-2006, 06:21 AM
There isn't really a huge difference. That is where you are wrong. The bottom line is you are trying to swing the bat as fast as possible (not as hard as possible) and to do so you need the correct mechanics and the correct mechanics are rotational mechanics. Only difference is it's harder to get a pitch to use rotational mechanics on. Most of the time the best pitches to hit in slow pitch are pitches out in front of the plate at waist level which you have to lunge for. The bottom line though is you need good rotational mechanics to swing the bat as fast as possible at the point of contact. It's not like Softball and Baseball are two different games. They both require you to hit the ball as hard as possible to have the most success. I don't understand why you think that Softball mechanics are any different then BAseball??
PullFactor
07-29-2006, 05:47 PM
There isn't really a huge difference. That is where you are wrong. The bottom line is you are trying to swing the bat as fast as possible (not as hard as possible) and to do so you need the correct mechanics and the correct mechanics are rotational mechanics. Only difference is it's harder to get a pitch to use rotational mechanics on. Most of the time the best pitches to hit in slow pitch are pitches out in front of the plate at waist level which you have to lunge for. The bottom line though is you need good rotational mechanics to swing the bat as fast as possible at the point of contact. It's not like Softball and Baseball are two different games. They both require you to hit the ball as hard as possible to have the most success. I don't understand why you think that Softball mechanics are any different then BAseball??
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't how hard you swing and how fast you swing have a 1:1 consentual relationship? Maybe I misunderstand the terminology used?
MannyRamirez2006
07-30-2006, 02:55 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't how hard you swing and how fast you swing have a 1:1 consentual relationship? Maybe I misunderstand the terminology used?
When you swing too hard you are overswinging (trying to kill the ball). When you try to kill the ball at contact your muscles tense up and your bat speed actually goes down. I have noticed that swinging fast and swinging hard are too different things. I was hitting around with a friend and me being obsessed with HR's was trying to hit one out and I was trying to kill the ball. My friend told me to cut down on my swing so I swung pretty easy and I hit the next pitch out. I couldn't believe how far I hit the ball swinging like that. I just wish I could break the habit and don't always try to kill the ball. I have to really think hard at the plate not to kill the ball.
DunninLA
07-31-2006, 07:00 PM
manny,
Baseball/Fastpitch and Slow Pitch have really different swings.
Slow Pitch gives you the time (more than a second) to severely counter rotate, severly load the hips, and take a LONG, bat-dragging swing into the ball... and even the opportunity to run up to the ball.
None of those techniques work well in FP or BB where you have less than two tenths of a second to launch and connect.