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[baseballPAP]

Similar to the similarity scores.....I'm looking for the closest MLB player to a whole bunch of top NeLers. This is for a side project I'm working on....any and all help is greatly appreciated. Qualifiers are perfectly OK...and very helpful in most cases....an example to what I'm looking for might be:
Oscar Charleston-early career, Mays with a little less power, later career, Bill Terry with MORE power.

I'll throw these at you in small groups....any and all comments are welcome.

Group # 1
Charleston
John Beckwith
Pop Lloyd
Christobal Torriente
Ray Dandridge
Frank Grant
Biz Mackey

Thanks again.....

[jalbright]

I'd suggest a look at Baseball Think Factory's work on these guys, the index of which is here: http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/hall_of_merit/discussion/the_negro_league_home_page You can also use the data shown on "Integrated Nines" here: http://www.i9s.org/

From there, if you have Lahman's database, you should be able to use the database to program similarity scores to the projections either through the database or first exporting the necessary database data to a spreadsheet. If you get this far and get stuck, PM me and I can probably get you through it.

You may also want to consult Shades of Glory's Negro League data and try conversions in the manner of BBTF's practitioners.

Jim Albright

[Mischa]

Group # 1
Charleston
John Beckwith
Pop Lloyd
Christobal Torriente
Ray Dandridge
Frank Grant
Biz Mackey

Thanks again.....

Charleston - Mays works well IMO in terms of being well-rounded without jaw-dropping in any one area. Both were great defensive CF who hit for average and power and drew walks
Beckwith - Rogers Hornsby. Nasty temperment, played several IF positions, right-handed hitter, multiple teams, average and power without many walks
Lloyd - Wagner is the most common pick.
Torriente - Tough one as park factors really hurt him. Maybe Speaker?
Dandridge - George Kell. Right-hander with a good glove, little pop at third base, good average
Grant - Hard to tell given the lack of statistics for much of his career. Bobby Lowe sorta?
Mackey - Mickey Cochrane with probably a bit less offense and better defense

[baseballPAP]

Charleston - Mays works well IMO in terms of being well-rounded without jaw-dropping in any one area. Both were great defensive CF who hit for average and power and drew walks
Beckwith - Rogers Hornsby. Nasty temperment, played several IF positions, right-handed hitter, multiple teams, average and power without many walks
Lloyd - Wagner is the most common pick.
Torriente - Tough one as park factors really hurt him. Maybe Speaker?
Dandridge - George Kell. Right-hander with a good glove, little pop at third base, good average
Grant - Hard to tell given the lack of statistics for much of his career. Bobby Lowe sorta?
Mackey - Mickey Cochrane with probably a bit less offense and better defense
Much thanks Mischa!

[baseballPAP]

I have the first 4 of my projections finished and posted. These are adjusted based on an integrated MLB of the same time period....meaning I took into account the offensive surge centered on 1930, and the offensive decline of the late 30s. I also assume that with the relatively more talented NeL hitters coming into the league, HR and SB figures would have been somewhat higher. The link:
www.geocities.com/baseball_pap/projections.html

[baseballPAP]

7 projections now complete:
Cool Papa Bell
Oscar Charleston
John Beckwith
Turkey Stearnes
Judy Johnson
Satchel Paige
Smokey Joe Williams

The link is one post up....