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Aa3rt
07-11-2006, 01:25 PM
Folks, it's GREAT to see the revival of interest here in the Washington Senators forum! :clapping

Many times when researching (all right, surfing the web), I've come across interesting websites and pages devoted to the Washington Senators. I'm sure many of you have too.

What I'd like to do here is start a resource where all of us diehard Senators fans can share those wonderful little bits of Senators history that sometimes surprisingly turn up in cyberspace.

(NOTE:) Please give proper credit to sites and contributors. Also, doublecheck your link AFTER you've posted it. Things in the cyberworld change quickly enough, please make sure your link works after posting. If the site disappears in a week, a month or a year, at least other people had a chance to see it. BUT, if the link never worked, we have absolutely NO IDEA what the heck it was you were linking to.

Let me start things out:

From the National Archives, Opening Day, 1969. President Richard Nixon throws out the first pitch while Senators Manager Ted Williams looks on.

http://www.archives.gov/global-pages/larger-image.html?i=/publications/prologue/2006/spring/images/nixon-l.jpg&c=/publications/prologue/2006/spring/images/nixon.caption.htm

Whitesoxnut
07-11-2006, 01:44 PM
The Secret Service must only issue one kind of sunglasses.:p

JohnGelnarFan
07-11-2006, 02:27 PM
That's funny about the sunglasses WS Nut! Bob Short,standing behind Ralph Houk,looks like he's already thinking about moving. Ted looks great in his beautiful Senators uniform. They really did have nice ones.

Here's another website setup by Big Bruno,a big Senators fan and WBHS contributor. He hasn't updated it in a long time but it's got some great stuff.
www.bigbruno.com/senators/senators.html

Aa3rt
07-12-2006, 08:54 AM
Here's a page maintained by a gentleman named Clay Randall, who hails from northern Virginia:

http://members.cox.net/crandall11/dc/senators

The same photo of the last (1971) Senators team that has been hanging in my office for years:

http://members.cox.net/crandall11/dc/senators/Senators_1971.jpg

JohnGelnarFan
07-12-2006, 11:44 AM
Mr. Randall's site had a great picture of my second favorite Senator,Tim Cullen,That I've never seen before. I also have that 1971 team photo on my wall Aa3rt. Here's another from Frank Fleming's E-Cyclopedia. It has great home pages for every team.This one covers the expansion Senators
www.sportsecyclopedia.com/al/wastex/senators61.html

Thirdbaseman
09-05-2006, 11:02 PM
Hello friends,
This is my first forey into this realm. I am an old Washington Senators baseball fan, however, I use the term 'old' very loosely. I am FAR from being 'old', and as the old saying goes, age ain't nothin' but a number', and believe me, I am a firm believer in this, but, enough of that. I have very happy memories about the Senators, especially from about 1950 thru 1959.

The teams after that, really didn't have the charisma for me, the feeling that a youngster has for his baseball team and grows up, and leaves some of his childhood behind. MY teams were of those years, and though time moves on, those memories are as bright today, as they were those 50 years ago. Such names as: Eddie Yost, Pete Runnells, Mickey Vernon, Gil Coan, Mickey Grasso, Frank Shea, Sam Mele, just to name a few, were my first 'Idols', with Eddie Yost, the walking man, my favorite.

I took in many a game with my Dad at old Griffith Stadium, and it's something I will never forget. My Dad also took me to the All-Star game at Griffith Stadium in 1956, Oh baby, what a memory! I can still see it as if it were just last week. Ted Kluzueski?.....Big Klu, Stan Musial, Willie Mays, Warran Spahn, Gus Bell, Mickey Mantle. It is a portion of history I will never forget. I remember one of the first, if not the first tape measure Home Runs that Mickey Mantle hit at Griffith Stadium, were it hit or sailed over, the old "National Bohemian? sign that was in left field, or the one he hit that sailed into the big tree that was outside the wall in Centerfield.

I am glad that I found this site, and I shall make more visits to hash out more 'old' memories concerning my Washington Senators.

I am Sincerely,
Thirdbaseman

Aa3rt
09-06-2006, 10:48 AM
Hello friends,
This is my first forey into this realm. I am an old Washington Senators baseball fan, however, I use the term 'old' very loosely. I am FAR from being 'old', and as the old saying goes, age ain't nothin' but a number', and believe me, I am a firm believer in this, but, enough of that. I have very happy memories about the Senators, especially from about 1950 thru 1959.

Thirdbaseman, As we used to say in the Coast Guard "Welcome Aboard!" :waving

The teams after that, really didn't have the charisma for me, the feeling that a youngster has for his baseball team and grows up, and leaves some of his childhood behind.

I've mentioned in a couple of other threads here that my maternal grandfather was a Senators fan, having a special admiration for Walter Johnson. When Calvin Griffith moved the original Senators after the 1960 season, my grandfather pretty much lost his interest in baseball. Being a lad of 7 at the time, I was just becoming aware of major league baseball (I'm surprised I remember anything from that long ago. ;) ) and became a fan of the expansion Senators because I really didn't understand the difference at the time.

I took in many a game with my Dad at old Griffith Stadium, and it's something I will never forget.

When you have the opportunity, please share some of those memories with us-many of us here are too young to have seen Griffith and would love to learn more about it! How did you get to the games? (Streetcar, bus?) What were your impressions of the surrounding neighborhood? Was it really that bad that fans were leery of attending games? Everyone I've ever talked to who actually attended games at Griffith Stadium mentions the smell of baking bread permeateing the air when attending games-do you recall that? (Questions to help you get started.)

I am glad that I found this site, and I shall make more visits to hash out more 'old' memories concerning my Washington Senators.

I am Sincerely,
Thirdbaseman

Stop by anytime and share your memories of the Senators!!!

Aa3rt
10-06-2006, 11:50 AM
A couple of GREAT links on the history of the ORIGINAL and EXPANSION Senators...

(Courtesy Sportsecyclopedia.com)

The Original Senators (http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/al/wasdc/nats.html)

The Expansion Senators (http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/al/wastex/senators61.html)

From the Expansion Senators site, photos of some of my boyhood "heros"... (http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/al/wastex/senators61images.html)

Aa3rt
10-06-2006, 12:11 PM
From Chris Creamer's sportslogos.net, links to logos for both the ORIGINAL (http://www.sportslogos.net/team.php?t=992) and the EXPANSION (http://www.sportslogos.net/team.php?t=79) Senators!!! :dance :clapping :dance

Aa3rt
10-21-2006, 08:15 PM
Check out this site, run by Baseball-Fever.com member GH1054:

GH1054's Senators Pictures (http://www.angelfire.com/va/bballpics/senators.html)

Make sure you scoll all the way to the bottom to check out pages 2 & 3!

Some photos of Moose Skowron, including one in his Senators uniform during his brief tenure in Washington:

Bill "Moose" Skowron (http://www.angelfire.com/va3/bms0/index.html)

JohnGelnarFan
10-29-2006, 08:30 AM
Great site Aa3rt! There are wonderful pictures here,many never seen before. I have several of them and many of the cards but I sure would like to find more of these. As usual,you have provided us with new and interesting information. Take care friend! :waving

tombo
10-30-2006, 07:42 PM
OK Senators fans,Aa3rt and Thirdbaseman, Lets dust off our memory bowls no matter how rusty they may be. I just stumbled onto this site by accident looking for somethingon the first baseball. If we're going to talk baseball in Washington, lets start back in the 19th century.
1. The National Association Washington Olympics, 1871-1872
2. The National Association Washington Nationals, 1872
3. The National Association Washington Blue Legs, 1873
4. The National Association Washington Nationals(NA) (a new incarnation), 1875
5. The Union Association Washington Nationals(UA), 1884
6. The American Association Nationals, 1884
7. The National League Washington Nationals, 1886-1889
8. The Washington Senators (1891-1899): the American Association Washington Statesmen of 1891 and National League Washington Senators of 1892-1899. The American Association was incorporated in the NL after 1891 and its Washington club continued operation in the combined League.
I used to go to old Griffith Stadium in the 40's with my father. After the game, I used to stand by the team locker room door trying to get autographs. I wasn't too successful.
The team was an American League team from 1901 to 1960 when it moved to Minneapolis. The official name of the team was the Washington Nationals from 1905 to 1950 but was commonly referred to as the Senators or Sens or the First Washington Senators ot the Nats until they left.
The new expansion team, also named the Washington Senators arrived in 1963, stayedfor a while then picked up they're socks and left for Texas.
Now there is another team in residence that slid downhill from Montreal, Canada.
I guess this is all for now. Maybe we'll talk about Griffith Stadium next time.
PLAY BALL!!!!
ref:wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_senators

Brownie31
10-31-2006, 01:10 AM
Senators great Mickey Vernon is showing holding the
baseball he belted for his 2000 hit.

Brownie31

Old Sweater
10-31-2006, 12:21 PM
OK Senators fans,Aa3rt and Thirdbaseman, Lets dust off our memory bowls no matter how rusty they may be. I just stumbled onto this site by accident looking for somethingon the first baseball. If we're going to talk baseball in Washington, lets start back in the 19th century.
1. The National Association Washington Olympics, 1871-1872
2. The National Association Washington Nationals, 1872
3. The National Association Washington Blue Legs, 1873
4. The National Association Washington Nationals(NA) (a new incarnation), 1875
5. The Union Association Washington Nationals(UA), 1884
6. The American Association Nationals, 1884
7. The National League Washington Nationals, 1886-1889
8. The Washington Senators (1891-1899): the American Association Washington Statesmen of 1891 and National League Washington Senators of 1892-1899. The American Association was incorporated in the NL after 1891 and its Washington club continued operation in the combined League.
I used to go to old Griffith Stadium in the 40's with my father. After the game, I used to stand by the team locker room door trying to get autographs. I wasn't too successful.
The team was an American League team from 1901 to 1960 when it moved to Minneapolis. The official name of the team was the Washington Nationals from 1905 to 1950 but was commonly referred to as the Senators or Sens or the First Washington Senators ot the Nats until they left.
The new expansion team, also named the Washington Senators arrived in 1963, stayedfor a while then picked up they're socks and left for Texas.
Now there is another team in residence that slid downhill from Montreal, Canada.
I guess this is all for now. Maybe we'll talk about Griffith Stadium next time.
PLAY BALL!!!!
ref:wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_senators

Played As:
Washington Senators
1901-1904

Washington Nationals
1905-1955

Washington Senators
1956-1960

Minnesota Twins
1961-Present

Brownie31
11-01-2006, 08:33 AM
Wednesday April 12, 1916 National Park Washington DC
President Woodrow Wilson is all smiles as he throws out
the first pitch of the season. The President and other
loyal fans would watch Clark Griffith's Senators knock
off the New York Yankees 3-2 in route to a 76-77
seventh place finish.

Brownie31

Brownie31
11-04-2006, 07:39 AM
Wednesday, April 12, 1922 Griffith Park Washington, DC
President Warren G. Harding readies to throw out the
first pitch of the season. Clyde Milan's Senators would
defeat the New York Yankees (minus suspended Babe
Ruth and Bob Meusel) 6-5 in route to a 69-85 sixth
place finish.

Brownie 31

Brownie31
11-07-2006, 05:54 AM
Monday, April 18, 1938 Griffith Stadium Washington DC
President Franklin D. Roosevelt throws out the first
ball of the season as Senators' manager Bucky Harris
and Connie Mack look on. Harris' Senators would
defeat Mack's A 12-8 in route to a 75-76 5th place
finish.

Brownie31

Aa3rt
11-12-2006, 01:29 PM
Senators great Mickey Vernon is showing holding the
baseball he belted for his 2000 hit.

Brownie31

Admittedly a bit late, but thanks for posting that photo of one of my sentimental favorites. Mickey played in the majors with the Washington Senators (twice), Cleveland Indians (twice), Boston Red Sox, Milwaukee Braves and ended his playing career with the 1960 Pittsburgh Pirates.

Brought back to Washington in 1961 as a fan favorite to manage the expansion Senators, it was Mickey's misfortune to manage one of the most inept expansion teams ever. After finishing in a 9th place tie with the Kansas City Athletics in 1961, the Senators finished in 10th, all by them selves in 1962. Mickey was fired after 40 games in the 1963 season, probably much to his relief, as the '63 team ended up with a 56-106 record.

Aa3rt
11-12-2006, 01:33 PM
Just found these yesterday...

http://washingtonsenators.com

http://washingtonsenators.net

Make sure to check out the links on the pages themselves-don't miss the story about Sam Rice, who played for the Washington Senators from 1915-1933 and ended his career with 2,987 hits.

Jason R. Maier
11-12-2006, 01:57 PM
Be interesting to know how many of the Old washington Senators are still alive.

Off the top of my head, I can think of Killebrew, Kaat, Ramos, Pascual . . not sure about Mickey Vernon or Roy Seivers

Aa3rt
11-12-2006, 02:34 PM
Be interesting to know how many of the Old washington Senators are still alive.

Jason-by "old" Washington Senators, I'm assuming you mean the original team that left for Minnesota after the 1960 season. I'm afraid that's a question I can't answer, however you may be interested in the Washington Baseball Historical Society. Membership is $ 20.00 a year for a quarterly newsletter. You can contact them at:

Nats News

9039 Sligo Creek Parkway #1116

Silver Spring, MD 20901

(Thanks to JohnGelnarFan for posting this information in another thread.)

There's also a Washington Senators Yahoo group where you may want to pose your question. You can find it at:

Washington Senators Yahoo Group (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/thewashingtonsenators/?yguid=79909889)

Brownie31
11-12-2006, 02:34 PM
Admittedly a bit late, but thanks for posting that photo of one of my sentimental favorites. Mickey played in the majors with the Washington Senators (twice), Cleveland Indians (twice), Boston Red Sox, Milwaukee Braves and ended his playing career with the 1960 Pittsburgh Pirates.

Brought back to Washington in 1961 as a fan favorite to manage the expansion Senators, it was Mickey's misfortune to manage one of the most inept expansion teams ever. After finishing in a 9th place tie with the Kansas City Athletics in 1961, the Senators finished in 10th, all by them selves in 1962. Mickey was fired after 40 games in the 1963 season, probably much to his relief, as the '63 team ended up with a 56-106 record.

My pleasure! Mickey was succeed by former Dodger star Gil Hodges.

Brownie31

Brownie31
11-16-2006, 04:36 PM
Joe Judge, long time Senator first baseman, poses for the Chicago
Daily News photographer at Comiskey Park in 1916. Judge's grandson,
Mark Gavreau Judge, was the author of "Damn Senators" a 2002 book
about his granddad and the 1924 World Series Champion Senators.

Brownie31

Brownieand45sfan
11-18-2006, 02:37 PM
Roy Sieevrs is still alive, living in St. Louis, playing a lot of golf and shows up at our annual Browns' old-timers dinner every once in a while.

. . not sure about Mickey Vernon or Roy Seivers

Aa3rt
11-18-2006, 03:49 PM
Roy Sieevrs is still alive, living in St. Louis, playing a lot of golf and shows up at our annual Browns' old-timers dinner every once in a while.

Roy Sievers career spanned from 1949-1965 starting with the St. Louis Browns and ending with the expansion Washington Senators. In the interim he played with the original Senators, the Chicago White Sox and the Philadelphia Phillies. Roy has the distinction of being the only player to have played with the St. Louis Browns and both versions of the Washington Senators.

Roy Sievers Career Record, Courtesy Baseball-Almanac (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=sievero01)

Brownie31
01-17-2007, 03:55 PM
Longtime Senators infielder (and wartime manager) Ossie Bluege stares
(and we do mean stares!) into the camera!

Brownie31

Brownie31
02-01-2007, 03:43 PM
Monday, April 26, 1915 The Polo Grounds New York: Washington Senators manager Clark Griffith is shown in the visitors dugout just prior to his team suffering a 9-2 loss to the New York Yankees. The 1915 Senators would finish in fourth place with an 85-68 record. (Corbis)

bryanac625
02-03-2007, 12:24 PM
Man, that coat is something else. And that bat looks exceptionally long, too.

I always wonder... are the "die-hard" Senators fans also fans of the new Washington Nationals?

Brownie31
02-03-2007, 12:51 PM
Man, that coat is something else. And that bat looks exceptionally long, too.

I always wonder... are the "die-hard" Senators fans also fans of the new Washington Nationals?

The coat was probably made to order. After all, Griffith was manager and owner! Quite a bat too!

Brownie31

Brownie31
02-05-2007, 04:34 PM
Saturday, April 21, 1917 National Park Washington, DC: A mere nineteen days after the U.S. entry into World War I, Assistant Secretary of the Navy Franklin D. Roosevelt smartly leads the Washington Senators on the field military style. Manager Clark Griffith's Senators would defeat Connie Mack's Philadelphia A's 11-6 en route to a 74-79 fifth place finish.

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Brownie31
02-14-2007, 09:12 AM
Wednesday, April 12, 1933 Griffith Stadium Washington DC: President Franklin D. Roosevelt throws out the first of the season as Wasington manager Joe Cronin, Vice President John Nance Garner and a host of other dignateries look on. Cronin's Senators would defeat Connie Mack's Philadelphia A's 4-1 en route to a 99-51 record and the American League pennant. (Corbis)

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Brownie31
02-14-2007, 08:48 PM
Comiskey Park Chicago 1917: As Senator team members watch, Washington manager Clark Griffith makes a presentation to Major Walter Fisher of the 2nd Artillery. Bats and balls had been collected for the American fighting men of World War I. (Chicago Daily News)

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Brownie31
02-15-2007, 10:30 AM
Monday, April 10, 1961 Griffith Stadium Washington DC: President John F. Kennedy watches intently as Mickey Vernon's Senators lose 4-3 to the Chicago White Sox en route to a 61-100 ninth place finish. (Corbis)

Brownie31

Brownie31
02-19-2007, 04:00 PM
Thursday, April 16, 1953 Griffith Stadium Washington, DC: As managers Bucky Harris of the Washington Senators and Casey Stengel of the New York Yankees look on, President Dwight D. Eisenhower tosses out the first pitch of the season. The Senators, en route to a 76-76 fifth place finish, dropped the opener 6-3 to the Yankees. (Corbis)

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Brownie31
02-20-2007, 08:05 PM
Saturday, October 8, 1932 Griffith Stadium Washington DC: Like most big league ball parks, Griffith Stadium switched to football when the baseball season ended. Here is action from the 1932 Alabama-George Washington game showing John "Hurri" Cain of Alabama with the ball. Cain would score all four touchdowns as the Crimson Tide defeated the Colonials 28-6. The crowd of 26,000 was the largest up to that time to see a football game in Washington, DC. (Corbis)

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Yankwood
02-21-2007, 08:51 AM
Least Valuable Senator

Brownie31
02-21-2007, 09:09 AM
Least Valuable Senator

She has 99 others battling her fiercely for that award!;)

Brownie31

Aa3rt
02-21-2007, 09:24 AM
Least Valuable Senator

When I saw the title I was expecting a photo of Denny Mac Lain!!! ;)

Yankwood
02-21-2007, 10:17 AM
When I saw the title I was expecting a photo of Denny Mac Lain!!! ;)Denny was bad for Senators fans. Let's hope this Senator doesn't affect the whole nation.

Brownie31
02-23-2007, 06:38 AM
Tuesday, April 12, 1927 Griffith Stadium Washington DC: President Calvin Coolidge readies to throw out the first pitch of the season. Manager Bucky Harris looks on. Harris' Senators would open with a 6-2 win over the Boston Red Sox en route to an 85-69 third place finish.

Brownie31

Yankwood
02-24-2007, 05:17 AM
Sign of the times: Bucky may be the only person in the picture without a hat on.

Brownie31
02-24-2007, 06:18 AM
Sign of the times: Bucky may be the only person in the picture without a hat on.

You are right-male or female!

Brownie31

Brownie31
02-24-2007, 03:40 PM
Monday, April 11, 1955 Griffith Stadium Washington DC: President Dwight D. Eisenhower autographs a baseball as Charlie Dressen, new Senators manager, looks on. The President and over 26,000 other loyal fans would watch Dressen's Senators romp past the Baltimore Orioles 12-5 en route to a dismal 53-101 eighth place finish. (Corbis)

Aa3rt
02-24-2007, 05:49 PM
The President and over 26,000 other loyal fans would watch Dressen's Senators romp past the Baltimore Orioles 12-5 en route to a dismal 53-101 eighth place finish. (Corbis)

The Baltimore Orioles, in only their second season in Baltimore, would finish at 57-97 in seventh place. The Senators record in 1954 was 66-88. Their 1955 season record marked an additional 13 losses. :ughh

Great photos, Brownie31!!! Thanks again.

Brownie31
02-24-2007, 06:13 PM
The Baltimore Orioles, in only their second season in Baltimore, would finish at 57-97 in seventh place. The Senators record in 1954 was 66-88. Their 1955 season record marked an additional 13 losses. :ughh

Great photos, Brownie31!!! Thanks again.

My pleasure!

Brownie31

Brownie31
02-28-2007, 07:02 AM
Wednesday, June 23, 1954 Comiskey Park Chicago: Manager Bucky Harris of the Washington Senators readies seventeen year old Harmon Killebrew for his major league debut. Killebrew, a $50,000.00 "Bonus Baby", and the Senators would lose 8-6 to the White Sox. (Corbis)

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Brownie31
02-28-2007, 09:55 AM
Tuesday, April 14, 1942 Griffith Stadium Washington DC: Vice President Henry A. Wallace steps in for President Roosevelt to throw out the first pitch of the season as managers Bucky Harris of the Washington Senators and Joe McCarthy of the New York Yankees look on. The Yankees inaugurated wartime baseball with a 7-0 victory over the Senators. (Corbis)

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Brownie31
03-01-2007, 01:11 PM
Friday, April 21, 1939 Griffith Stadium Washington DC: Substituting for President Roosevelt, Vice President John Nance Garner tosses out the first pitch as Bucky Harris, Senators manager, and Joe McCarthy, Yankees manager look on. The Yankees would win 6-3 and roll to their fourth consecutive World Series championship while Harris' Senators would stumble home in sixth place. (Corbis)

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Brownie31
03-04-2007, 03:35 PM
The Washington Senators inaugurate spring training in 1936. Much like college football teams open their games today!

Brownie31

Aa3rt
03-04-2007, 04:07 PM
Another great (and unusual) photo, Brownie31!

The 1936 Senators would finish in fourth place with a 82-71 record, and a .536 winning percentage. The New York Yankees (Who else? :mad: ) would win the pennant with a 102-51 record and .667 winning percentage.

Some highlights of the season: The Senators would lead the American League in stolen bases (104), triples (84) and would tie with the Cleveland Indians for fewest home runs allowed (73). Unfortunately, the Senators would only hit 62 homers, with 1st baseman Joe Kuehl (16) and outfielder John Stone (15) accounting for exactly half of the home runs hit.

Playing their home games in expansive Griffith Stadium helps account for the league lead in triples and the absence of home runs.

Brownie31
03-04-2007, 04:20 PM
Another great (and unusual) photo, Brownie31!

The 1936 Senators would finish in fourth place with a 82-71 record, and a .536 winning percentage. The New York Yankees (Who else? :mad: ) would win the pennant with a 102-51 record and .667 winning percentage.

Some highlights of the season: The Senators would lead the American League in stolen bases (104), triples (84) and would tie with the Cleveland Indians for fewest home runs allowed (73). Unfortunately, the Senators would only hit 62 homers, with 1st baseman Joe Kuehl (16) and outfielder John Stone (15) accounting for exactly half of the home runs hit.

Playing their home games in expansive Griffith Stadium helps account for the league lead in triples and the absence of home runs.

Thanks! It is quite unusual.

Brownie31

Brownie31
03-06-2007, 01:52 PM
Tuesday, July 10, 1956 Griffith Stadium Washington, DC: A packed crowd watches the start of the 1956 All Star Game at Griffith Stadium. The National Leaguers were victorious 7-3. (Corbis)

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Brownie31
03-06-2007, 02:00 PM
March 1929 Tampa, FL: Joe Cronin, agile Washington Senators infielder, makes a stab for the ball in spring training. (Corbis)

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Brownie31
03-11-2007, 03:28 PM
Vice President Thomas Marshall substitutes for his boss, President Woodrow Wilson, throwing out the first pitch of the season with Washington Manager Clark Griffith looking on. This photo probably dates from either 1919, when Wilson was tied up in the Versailles Peace Conference, or 1920 when he had been incapacitated by a stroke. (Corbis)

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Brownie31
03-18-2007, 03:15 AM
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p123/OswaldTheOsprey/sketch10_11.jpg

1924 Washington Post cartoon honors the World Champions.

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Brownie31
03-23-2007, 06:03 AM
Tuesday, April 14, 1936 Griffith Stadium Washington, DC: A beaming President Franklin D. Roosevelt prepares to throw out the first pitch of the season as Senators Manager Bucky Harris and Yankee Manager Joe McCarthy look on. The President and other loyal fans were treated to a 1-0 Senators victory pitched by Bobo Newsom. From there Harris' Senators went on to an 82-71 fourth place finish.

Brownie31

Aa3rt
03-23-2007, 09:13 AM
Tuesday, April 14, 1936 Griffith Stadium Washington, DC: A beaming President Franklin D. Roosevelt prepares to throw out the first pitch of the season as Senators Manager Bucky Harris and Yankee Manager Joe McCarthy look on. The President and other loyal fans were treated to a 1-0 Senators victory pitched by Bobo Newsom.

Brownie31

Bobo Newsom fun facts-

Louis Norman (Bobo) Newsom's career spanned from 1929 through 1953 although he didn't appear in the major leagues in 1931, 1949, 1950 or 1951.

The well travelled Newsome played for Brooklyn (twice), the Chicago Cubs, the St. Louis Browns (on three seperate occasions), the Washington Senators (five seperate stints), Boston Red Sox, Detroit Tigers, Philadelphia Athletics (twice) the New York Yankees and the New York Giants.

Bobo is quoted as having said "I played for Washington five different times. That beat Franklin Delano Roosevelt's record. He was only elected four times."

Bobo is the first major league player to have worn the number "00" during his fourth stint with the Senators in 1946/1947.

Bobo Newsom career record (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=newsobo01)

Brownie31
03-23-2007, 09:39 AM
Bobo Newsom fun facts-

Louis Norman (Bobo) Newsom's career spanned from 1929 through 1953 although he didn't appear in the major leagues in 1931, 1949, 1950 or 1951.

The well travelled Newsome played for Brooklyn (twice), the Chicago Cubs, the St. Louis Browns (on three seperate occasions), the Washington Senators (five seperate stints), Boston Red Sox, Detroit Tigers, Philadelphia Athletics (twice) the New York Yankees and the New York Giants.

Bobo is quoted as having said "I played for Washington five different times. That beat Franklin Delano Roosevelt's record. He was only elected four times."

Bobo is the first major league player to have worn the number "00" during his fourth stint with the Senators in 1946/1947.

Bobo Newsom career record (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=newsobo01)

I believe that I read somewhere that Newsome is the only person to pitch to both Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle!

Brownie31

Brownie31
03-29-2007, 09:21 AM
Monday, April 8, 1963 DC Stadium, Washington DC: President John F. Kennedy and other important political figures such as Senator Hubert H. Humphrey watch a foul come into the stands as Mickey Vernon's Senators lose 3-1 to the Baltimore Orioles. Sadly, this would be JFK's final season opener. (Corbis)

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Brownie31
04-03-2007, 09:47 PM
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p123/OswaldTheOsprey/fdroct533ws.jpg

President Franklin D. Roosevelt throws out the first pitch of game three of the 1933 World Series as Joe Cronin and Bill Terry look on.

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Brownie31
04-04-2007, 10:09 AM
Program cover for the Washington games of the 1933 World Series. (eBay listing)

Brownie31

bryanac625
04-05-2007, 09:21 PM
Friday, April 21, 1939 Griffith Stadium Washington DC: Substituting for President Roosevelt, Vice President John Nance Garner tosses out the first pitch as Bucky Harris, Senators manager, and Joe McCarthy, Yankees manager look on. The Yankees would win 6-3 and roll to their fourth consecutive World Series championship while Harris' Senators would stumble home in sixth place. (Corbis)

Brownie31

Nice to see this picture... I've always loved the 1939 Centennial sleeve patch, and I was disappointed that the belief was, according to Marc Okkonen's Baseball Uniforms of the Twentieth Century, that the team did not wear that patch for the sleeve W (actually, the team history says they had it, but the 1939 uniform pic does not). But this pic proves that that really bland uniform did have the patch.

Brownie31
04-06-2007, 07:37 AM
Nice to see this picture... I've always loved the 1939 Centennial sleeve patch, and I was disappointed that the belief was, according to Marc Okkonen's Baseball Uniforms of the Twentieth Century, that the team did not wear that patch for the sleeve W (actually, the team history says they had it, but the 1939 uniform pic does not). But this pic proves that that really bland uniform did have the patch.

The patch was probably an order from on high for all teams in mlb. Question: Do you know if they were worn in the minors?

Brownie31

Brownie31
04-09-2007, 03:18 PM
Friday, April 20, 1945 Griffith Stadium Washington DC: Speaker of the House Sam Rayburn prepares to throw out the first pitch of the baseball season. Looking on are, from left, Congressman Lyndon B. Johnson of Texas, Clark Griffith, Walter Johnson, Yankee Manager Joe McCarthy and Senators Manager Ossie Bluege. Bluege's Senators were defeated by the Yankees 6-3 that day en route to an 87-67 second place finish. (Corbis)

Brownie31

slidekellyslide
04-12-2007, 05:24 PM
To answer your question about minor leaguers wearing the patch in 1939 the answer is Yes. Here are a couple of Texas Leaguers wearing the patch.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2043/1939texasleaguerssmalllm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Brownie31
04-12-2007, 06:28 PM
To answer your question about minor leaguers wearing the patch in 1939 the answer is Yes. Here are a couple of Texas Leaguers wearing the patch.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2043/1939texasleaguerssmalllm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thanks very much!

Brownie31

Brownie31
04-24-2007, 03:17 PM
Colorful and elaborate team picture of the 1924 World Champions. (Sports-Photos.com)

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Brownie31
05-01-2007, 10:18 AM
Washington, DC Friday, October 14, 1932: Somber faced Clark Griffith and Walter Johnson face the newspapermen after Johnson was let go as Senators manager after four seasons. Johnson was succeeded by Joe Cronin. This is an original Associated Press wirephoto. (eBay listing)

Brownie31

bryanac625
05-02-2007, 08:08 PM
To answer your question about minor leaguers wearing the patch in 1939 the answer is Yes. Here are a couple of Texas Leaguers wearing the patch.

I wonder if that patch was worn by the Negro Leagues in 1939.

Brownie31
05-11-2007, 10:38 AM
Wednesday, April 14, 1915 National Park Washington DC: President Woodrow Wilson is shown at the season opener and is in high spirits. And well he should be as he and other loyal fans would see Clark Griffith's Senators belt the New York Yankees 7-0 in route to an 85-68 fourth place finish.

Brownie31

PlayJay
06-16-2007, 05:28 AM
I believe that I read somewhere that Newsome is the only person to pitch to both Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle!

Brownie31

No, he wasn't...

I'm not sure, but I think the pitcher's name was Al Benton. I have to look it up...

Yankwood
06-16-2007, 01:40 PM
No, he wasn't...

I'm not sure, but I think the pitcher's name was Al Benton. I have to look it up...It was Al Benton. And you can also throw in Gehrig and Joe DiMaggio to complete the list.

PlayJay
06-24-2007, 05:41 PM
Thanks, Yankwood... :)

DonDownUnder
06-27-2007, 12:06 PM
I can't believe I have found a bunch of old Senator's fans. All the great photos and memories. I was lucky enough to have attended that 1956 All Star game at Griffith. Centerfield bleachers, of course. Despite a National League team stuffed with Cincinatti Reds, they let Willie Mays play and he rewarded us all with a shot half way up the left center bleachers. As I recall, Mickey Vernon was our lone Senator rep and he pop-ed up his only at bat.

My first game ever was the Opener in I believe 1953. I remember the program had pics of both Mickey Vernon (who had won the AL Batting Championship the prior year) and Bob Portifield (who had been the top AL Pitcher) on the front cover. The Nats won on a walk off homer by Vernon that hit the top of the rightfield fense and skipped over. We were sitting in the rightfield 2nd deck and could look right down on the wall and the ball. I still remember the look of disgust on the Yankee Rightfielder's face. I think the fielder was Irv Noren.

I grew up in Arlington and even at the age of 10 and 11 my friends and I would go to afternoon games at Griffith. We would take a Virginia bus to it's first stop on 7th Street, and then either walk or take the streetcar up Georgia Avenue to the stadium. Although the neighborhood had already become mostly black, not once did we ever encounter the least problem. In fact, I have memories of walking down Georgia Ave. after Sunday day games and stopping at a Negro storefront church just to listen to the great singing.
Those were wonderful and very different times.

I am constantly looking for a photo that would show clearly the great Mr. Bo
National Bohemium Beer sign that sat above the leftfield bleachers. I am amazed at how few good photos of Griffith are available. I have attached a copy of my attempt to colorize an old widely distributed black and white AP photo.

Aa3rt
06-27-2007, 03:10 PM
DonDownUnder, Welcome aboard! :waving

I think you'll find that Baseball-Fever.Com is one of the friendliest sites on the web-even friendlier when we're welcoming another SENATORS fan to our ranks.

You know, this is driving me crazy!!! :crazy I have been looking all over the web for a photo of the National Boh billboard at Griffith Stadium and seem to keep coming up empty-handed. I do have a book at home with a couple of photos-in glorious black and white-of it. Guess I'll have to break down and scan them and see if I can post them here.

In the interim, here's a link to a great writeup on Griffith Stadium (http://www.ballparkwatch.com/stadiums/past/griffith_stadium.htm), but no photo of the billboard in question.

Hope you'll come back Don. Things seem to go in cycles here, it's usually quiet this time of year and picks up in the fall. BTW-I play on a softball team here in Charles County, MD named the Senators. I have a Senators pennant and photo of the 1971 team hanging in my office. I've mentioned it on this forum before but 1971 was a bittersweet year for me-I graduated from high school in the spring :hyper: and then the Senators left town that fall. :cry:

DonDownUnder
06-28-2007, 03:06 AM
Thanks so much for the friendly greeting. I have family down your way and spent some great days boating with my father-in-law out of Solomons Island.
I had a similiar high-school experience although a decade before yours. For some cruel reason my highschool principal announced over the school PA system Calvin Griffith's decision to move the Senators to Minneapolis. What made it worse was some students actually cheered. It broke my heart.

I'm sure you are aware of the feature at the Washington Post Sports/Nationals site that allows us to watch the hour-to-hour progress being made in the construction of the new Nationals Park. It appears it will be an amazing stadium and I am delighted it is being built. But what can't be ignored is the many many luxury features being included for the rich and powerful. Oh well, those center field bleacher seats look great too.

The Nat's lost last night to the Braves 13-0. They will pay for that :hyper:

GO NAT!!!!

1964Senators
07-03-2007, 06:30 AM
It's not a photo, but there is a great color postcard on the Bill Goff site. It's
called Long Gone Griffith, and it's superb. There is another color postcard of
Griffith on their site. It's a great site for stadium artwork, especially for those of old enough to have personal memories of attending games at some of the older baseball palaces, and/or those with a sense of history. Check out some of the other parks. There are some exquisite pieces there.
Best wishes,
Tom

dirtyc259
07-04-2007, 04:49 PM
My grandfather play for the Washington Senators in 1949, his name was Paul Calvert form Sherbrook, Quebec, he was a RHP, here is a link to his stats http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/historical/individual_stats_player.jsp?c_id=mlb&playerID=111898.
Also played in Cuba and Mexico.

Brownie31
07-10-2007, 04:33 PM
1912: Clark Griffith and the Senators head to spring training!

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DonDownUnder
05-13-2008, 05:15 AM
It might be the famous shift named for Williams, but that's not Teddy Ballgame at bat. It looks to me like the Yankees are in town from the little scoreboard and the packed stands. It's not Mantle who wore number 7 nor Dimaggio who batted right handed. Hard to make out the "At Bat" number on the scoreboard for sure - but it appears to be a single digit and I'm guessing its Nr. 8 - that could be Yogi Berra I think. Can't tell you how many times I saw him pull one over that right field wall.

Great pics.

Attached is a famous one of DiMaggio also taken at Griffith Stadium.

Steve Jeltz
05-16-2008, 05:14 PM
Is that last photo of John Kennedy from the 1962 All Star Game?

Lpeters199
05-16-2008, 06:47 PM
Is that last photo of John Kennedy from the 1962 All Star Game?
Yes, it is. Here's a link to the site where I found it.

http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/arch_results_detail.jsp?&pg=2&si=0&nh=8&st=b

Lpeters199
05-16-2008, 06:55 PM
That link didn't seem to work. Try this link and search DC Stadium for the picture and caption.

http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/servlet/arc.ControllerServlet

Aa3rt
05-19-2008, 12:53 PM
What year was the stadium renamed?

District of Columbia Stadium opened in October 1961. The stadium was renamed Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium (referred to locally as simply "RFK") in January 1969, after Robert Kennedy was assassinated in June of 1968.

DonDownUnder
05-20-2008, 09:33 AM
This is a color version of the Long Gone Griffith painting someone attached above. Interesting errors include LA on scoreboard in what is supposed to be a pic of Mickey Mantle at bat before hitting his record home run over the left field bleachers. Yogi Berra is on deck and the pitcher is Chuck Stobbs who gave up the home run. This event occured years before the Angles were added to the American League.

DonDownUnder
05-20-2008, 09:38 AM
Color version

welch
05-23-2008, 05:24 PM
Furthermore, isn't that a "New Senators" pennant? The red one with the realistic drawing of the pitcher?

Didn't Mantle hit his home run in a night game? I was about eight then, so my memory isn't perfectly clear...

By the way, those are great color photos from the bleachers at Griffith Stadium. Looks like Number 6 is batting for the Yankees, which was???

Lpeters199
06-06-2008, 12:22 PM
A search for Griffith Stadium on this site will turn up some unbelievable color photos of the old park.

http://www.gettyimages.com/Home.aspx

Aa3rt
11-28-2008, 02:56 AM
Recently, the photo archives of the old Life magazine have been put on line. Here's a link to a number of Senators photos from the Life archives.

Senators photos from "Life" (http://images.google.com/images?&hl=en&q=baseball+source:life+senators&&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=20)

Aa3rt
02-13-2009, 11:23 PM
Just stumbled across this site today while researching the "This Day In Washington Senators history" thread:

Senators Nation (http://rhilton4ujournal.spaces.live.com/)

ouboy
07-18-2009, 12:23 PM
Hi,
Does anyone know if it is possible to get any radio or tv broadcasts of Senators games from 1969,70, or 71 seasons. Any help would be appreciated.

ouboy

penncentralpete
07-18-2009, 12:40 PM
Hi,
Does anyone know if it is possible to get any radio or tv broadcasts of Senators games from 1969,70, or 71 seasons. Any help would be appreciated.

ouboy

http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Baseball-on-the-Radio__W0QQ_armrsZ1

penncentralpete
07-18-2009, 12:43 PM
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Baseball-on-the-Radio__W0QQ_armrsZ1

Go to the above link and at the upper left-hand corner of the page under "search", type in "Washington Senators".......he has MANY.

penncentralpete
07-18-2009, 12:46 PM
http://www.raresportsfilms.com/1955wash.html