Seattle Fans cheering for Bonds?

[Werner]

I am watching the Giants game right now on FSN. Just saw Bonds' homer followed by Finley's plunker into right field. Why the hell did the Seattle fans cheer when bonds hit his homer? Am I missing something?

[runningshoes]

I am watching the Giants game right now on FSN. Just saw Bonds' homer followed by Finley's plunker into right field. Why the hell did the Seattle fans cheer when bonds hit his homer? Am I missing something?

Do you live on the left coast?

[Werner]

A little off topic, but yes, I live on the "west coast".

[SABR Matt]

*spew*

Mariners fans made me sick tonight. Geez people...I know Bonds is a good player, but WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON?!?!

[SF Kid]

*spew*

Mariners fans made me sick tonight. Geez people...I know Bonds is a good player, but WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON?!?!I was there and believe me Mainer Fan WANTED Bonds to jack one in the ninth. There was more electricity laast night than any Mariner game this year! ;)

I expect to see more of the same today. Bonds got less boos than A-Rod gets. :D

Let's face it Mariner Fan got to watch one of the five best players in baseball history!

[SABR Matt]

No doubt Bonds is one of the top 5 players in major league history and there is something fun about watching him, but the Mariners are still very much alive in the AL West, and the city of Seattle is proving it doesn't deserve a pennant race.

[Werner]

This brings up a moral issue for me with Seattle fans in general. I was born and raised in the Northwest, and there are alot of great things here in Seattle/Redmond but when it comes to sports I've always thought the fans lacked out when the teams really need them. Our Seahawks have been a **** team for a long time and when they went to the Superbowl, sure I was excited, but I have never been a real Seahawk fan and probably never will be. We had alot of people here who knew nothing about the Hawks but as soon as they won that first playoff game, they dawned "Go Hawks" all over their cars. Same goes for Mariners, nobody cares until they start winning. I believe this problem exists throughout Washington for Pro Sports teams.

Another thing, I am a very big hockey fan and when going to a Silver Tips game (not a pro team) the fans are crazy. Something about the Pro teams here in Seattle, don't know why :ughh

[skeletor]

This brings up a moral issue for me with Seattle fans in general. I was born and raised in the Northwest, and there are alot of great things here in Seattle/Redmond but when it comes to sports I've always thought the fans lacked out when the teams really need them. Our Seahawks have been a **** team for a long time and when they went to the Superbowl, sure I was excited, but I have never been a real Seahawk fan and probably never will be. We had alot of people here who knew nothing about the Hawks but as soon as they won that first playoff game, they dawned "Go Hawks" all over their cars. Same goes for Mariners, nobody cares until they start winning. I believe this problem exists throughout Washington for Pro Sports teams.

Another thing, I am a very big hockey fan and when going to a Silver Tips game (not a pro team) the fans are crazy. Something about the Pro teams here in Seattle, don't know why :ughh

Well....any town that gave birth to sicks stadium, and the Pilots, can't be
all bad....maybe it's something in the drinking water..or the borg like attitude
of both Starbucks & Microsoft...

I think the fans just wanted to see some history being made..as Bonds in
the twilight of his career..hitting some dingers.....
:eek:

[Werner]

I had someone else (on another forum) say that Mariners fans just wanted to see someone hit homers. Ironically we hit more then them. :rolleyes:

[Outta Here]

Cheering Bonds??!! I'm outraged, SF still lost tho :laugh

[Rennie Stennett]

I was there and believe me Mainer Fan WANTED Bonds to jack one in the ninth. There was more electricity laast night than any Mariner game this year! ;)

I expect to see more of the same today. Bonds got less boos than A-Rod gets. :D


It's not about the money. ~Pay-Rod

[ichiro262]

Back to the topic: yeah, it pissed me off to hear cheers for the other team but maybe something positive could come out of it. There is another thread discussing this, but maybe that reaction proved the fans wouldn't be opposed to seeing Bonds in a M's uniform. He was quoted over the weekend as basically saying if they give me an offer I'll listen hard because I like the stadium, the town and the people. It would certainly be an improvement over Carl Everett. I know he would cost a ton more, but when you think about how full the stands were this weekend for a whole year -- you're going to get that money back. Plus it's a guy who's going to get on base a lot, hit for some power and maybe get people excited about baseball in Seattle. He could be the perfect solution to dwindling support.

[sfgiants29]

I am watching the Giants game right now on FSN. Just saw Bonds' homer followed by Finley's plunker into right field. Why the hell did the Seattle fans cheer when bonds hit his homer? Am I missing something?

Read my signature. Your fans realize it.

[papa~smurf]

There were a lot of Giants fans there, and a lot of people who didn't know much about baseball at all, but wanted to see Bonds. I was there for the last two.

[Werner]

Read my signature. Your fans realize it.


Bonds seems like a real ass-hat to me. Don't think he's much of a legend either. I posted this same thread at seattlepi.com and got much stronger reactions to this, its a good read think you'll all enjoy it. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/forum/boards/viewtopic.asp?topicid=88332


Part way through I posted this because I was sick of some guy saying Bonds was second best all time MLB player and it pretty much says it all.

Don't give me that "Bonds is second best player who ever lived" blah-blah BS. No body gives a crap about home-run kings anymore, its all about good plays at the plate and big fights, like A.J.'s - That what the people want to see. Ever since the MLB cracked down on steroids, the "kings" have literally dried up. Nobody talks about Sosa anymore and Mark "Mcguire" is now on the second page of a google search. Bonds isn't anything worth watching - his style on the field sucks and I doubt his personality is much better.

One more thing, did you see Bonds run once last night? I mean really run? He jogged after that deep fly to left field - what a joke. If Bonds comes to Seattle there will be riots.

[ichiro262]

I don't know how many times people have gotten into it about Bonds on this site, so let me just say that this arguement has been had.
That being said, thanks for generalizing an entire game to homers, fights, whatever else. Wow. Look, if you don't think Bonds would have been one of the games all-time greats without his recent numbers then you are actually crazy. If you want to tell me I'm wrong, look up his numbers before 1998 or whenever that ridiculous book says he started using. Just look at the numbers. That's all I ask.
Also, talk about barely being able to run -- BABE RUTH!!! HA! 'Nough said.
As a lifetime Mariners fan I would be thrilled if Bonds signed with Seattle next season as long as they didn't have to give too much up to get him. I think he would be able to log 120-130 games as a DH and he would bring the drought of bad power-hitting lefties we've had since Griffey to a halt (with the exception of Ibanez -- he's amazing right now).

[Werner]

Numbers, to me, isn't what makes a good baseball player. It is a fact that Bonds took steroids which means his numbers mean exactly squat to me. I agree with you that Ibanez is a good player and I like his style of play, but the general consensus in Seattle is that if we signed Bonds there would be riots. One fan went as far to say that he would tear up his season tickets and never go again as long as Bonds was here.

Maybe you should stick to matters in Alabama, eh?

[Rennie Stennett]

Numbers, to me, isn't what makes a good baseball player. It is a fact that Bonds took steroids which means his numbers mean exactly squat to me. I agree with you that Ibanez is a good player and I like his style of play, but the general consensus in Seattle is that if we signed Bonds there would be riots. One fan went as far to say that he would tear up his season tickets and never go again as long as Bonds was here.

Maybe you should stick to matters in Alabama, eh?

The idea that the general consensus in Seattle is that there would be riots if Bonds signs with the M's next year conflicts with attendance. Earlier in the thread, it was mentioned that not so serious baseball fans came out of the woodwork to see Bonds. Some of the biggest crowds of the year for the Giants series. This with the M's playing some pretty good baseball now. Some say that Seattle fans are fare weather. Then why are they not coming out to the ball park ? It can't be the weather, can it ? Perhaps, Seattle fans are just a bunch of Posers and Safeco is the place to see and be seen. Forget about the game. Let's watch the boat race on the big screen.

We've had some good ballplayers in Seattle over the years and the fans failed to appear. Jr. Griffey playing everday, but not a bleep on the radar. Sure, they would sell 25,000 to 30,000 if the Big Unit was pitching, but with the exception of the Yankees coming to town, they never had big crowds, until Sweet Lou came to town. Seattle fans can't complain about the current club, who's two games under (.500) and three and a half games out of the top of the AL West. They have an exciting team. Ichiro is ripping the cover off the ball. Seattle fans are weird. They will get up and go to the hotdog stand, with Edgar up in the 8th with a one run game and yet they will pack the place to see Bonds.

[Werner]

Let's watch the boat race on the big screen.

LOL! Don't disagree with your comment about Seattle fans being weird, but think of it this way. Maybe the fans wanted to watch Bonds really suck in Seattle. All the people on the Seattle PI forum who were there said they were booing as hard as they could when Bonds went up. That tells me that alot of the fans who could be heard cheering on TV weren't real fans, since most of the serious fans are the ones posting on forums in the first place.

Check it out, if I caught a home run ball from Bonds, in Seattle, and threw it back, how do you think the fans would react?

[Rennie Stennett]

As a lifetime Mariners fan I would be thrilled if Bonds signed with Seattle next season as long as they didn't have to give too much up to get him.

Bonds is a bad boy and the M's ownership don't like bad boys, particularly those that will make twenty million this year.

[thecoach]

Numbers, to me, isn't what makes a good baseball player. It is a fact that Bonds took steroids which means his numbers mean exactly squat to me. I agree with you that Ibanez is a good player and I like his style of play, but the general consensus in Seattle is that if we signed Bonds there would be riots. One fan went as far to say that he would tear up his season tickets and never go again as long as Bonds was here.

Maybe you should stick to matters in Alabama, eh?

Please define FACT for me. I think you do not know what you are talking about. I think he took steroids, but that does not make it a fact!

[ichiro262]

Numbers, to me, isn't what makes a good baseball player. It is a fact that Bonds took steroids which means his numbers mean exactly squat to me. I agree with you that Ibanez is a good player and I like his style of play, but the general consensus in Seattle is that if we signed Bonds there would be riots. One fan went as far to say that he would tear up his season tickets and never go again as long as Bonds was here.

OK. First, numbers DO make a good baseball player. If you disagree, then look at the Oakland A's. They are good where it counts (OBS, OPS, etc.). And I was referring to his numbers before the ALLEGED steroid use. Those numbers alone would have put him in the HOF.

Maybe you should stick to matters in Alabama, eh?

I'm not even from Alabama -- just go to school here -- but that's irrelevant. What is relevant is that you apparently know nothing about how to win the game of baseball and what it takes to make a great player. Barry Bonds is and was a great player. Numbers do make a great player. If they didn't, people wouldn't care about 755 homers,3000 hits or 300 wins. By the way, if you think that Seattle Mariners fans would riot for any reason, once again, you are actually crazy.

[Werner]

People don't care about the numbers if the trade off is an ******* player. We don't like ******* players and Bonds seems like one of them. Regardless of what you think or where you are most Seattle Fans don't want Bonds. End of story.

If you don't believe me read the Seattle PI forums. I posted a link earlier. And don't tell me what I know about the game of baseball, sonny.

[SF Kid]

People don't care about the numbers if the trade off is an ******* player. We don't like ******* players and Bonds seems like one of them. Regardless of what you think or where you are most Seattle Fans don't want Bonds. End of story.

If you don't believe me read the Seattle PI forums. I posted a link earlier. And don't tell me what I know about the game of baseball, sonny.I don't think anybody "wants" Bonds from a fan perspective. However I think he will end up with some American League team next year. Then the fans of that team will love Barry. ;)

[ichiro262]

People don't care about the numbers if the trade off is an ******* player. We don't like ******* players and Bonds seems like one of them. Regardless of what you think or where you are most Seattle Fans don't want Bonds. End of story.

If you don't believe me read the Seattle PI forums. I posted a link earlier. And don't tell me what I know about the game of baseball, sonny.

You're right, FANS don't care about statistics if the player is a dick. But FANS don't run baseball teams, and if they did they would be run into the ground. Billy Beane has been making unpopular moves in terms of what FANS like you want, but he still has Oakland winning year in year out. Personally, I don't really care at all what most Seattle fans want -- because they aren't running the team. I want what's best for the team, and what's going to give them the best chance to win games. And, the fact is, Barry Bonds will help every team win games as a DH. He has power, he'll get on base (even now is OBP is .485) and he'll help everybody else in the lineup get good pitches. That, sonny, is absolute fact.
Another thing: most Seattle fans (at least in the northeast, from what I can tell) are not really what you would call "students of the game." Just something to note.

[Mariner Fan]

I've never understood why Seattle fans cheer for guys like Bonds.
He dosn't deserve it in my book. Now some of our former players like Cammy would deserve an applause of appreciation of a job well done. Plus he was a stand up guy.