Mauer is Amazing!

[Edgartohof]

I'm listening to the game right now, and I just can't believe it.

Mauer was hitting .371/.429/.526 coming into the game today, but he is already 3-3 with a run a walk, and 2 doubles.

So he is now hitting: .381/.439/.543, with 17 doubles, 5 HR's, 30 R, 30 RBI, and he will probably get another AB in this game, so we shall see what happens.

[Jake83]

I'm listening to the game right now, and I just can't believe it.

Mauer was hitting .371/.429/.526 coming into the game today, but he is already 3-3 with a run a walk, and 2 doubles.

So he is now hitting: .381/.439/.543, with 17 doubles, 5 HR's, 30 R, 30 RBI, and he will probably get another AB in this game, so we shall see what happens.


I have made my opinion known on him but he will be known when he retires as the greatest catcher to play in the majors. Too bad he plays in Minnesota

[Outta Here]

I have made my opinion known on him but he will be known when he retires as the greatest catcher to play in the majors. Too bad he plays in Minnesota

I agree with u ther & desperatly want him 2 b traded 2 a better team so every1 can realise how impressive he is. Sorry Twins fans

GO JOE :clapping :gt

[lostzuli]

I wish Mauer would have played football, he would have been the greatest QB that ever played.

Mauer will NEVER leave Minnesota, sorry UK trolls.

[Red Sox Rule]

Not sure you can say he'll never leave, but i agree that he's one of the best catchers in the league right now.

I agree with outta here to in that i don't think he'll get the right recognition he deserves unless he does move. No disrespect to minnesota

[DoubleX]

If he leads the Twins to a championship, he'll get the appropriate recognition. Look at Kirby Puckett, a first ballot Hall of Famer who had a short career all in Minnesota. Winning trumps everything in the end. However, projecting Mauer at this point to be the greatest catcher ever is probably jumping the gun. He has a long way to go to get up there with the likes of Bench, Berra, Gibson, Campanella, Piazza, Cochrane, Rodriguez, Hartnett, Fisk, Dickey, Carter, and so forth.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

I have made my opinion known on him but he will be known when he retires as the greatest catcher to play in the majors. Too bad he plays in Minnesota
More Dodger arrogance. :rolleyes:

[KCFAN11]

Mauer is great but he prolly wont get voted into the all star game because the yankees and red sox players will make it

[yankillaz]

Mauer was injured in his first two seasons. And that's not a good omen. Recently we've seen sure fire All-Star players that have been sidelined due to injuries. That's not good. Look at Kerry Wood. If he would've been healthy he could've had a ton of K's and a good amount of wins, but he hasn't. He has the talent, but lacks the health.

Such a rigurous position as a catcher needs health, and even so, they don't play so much. Let's see how Mauer fares. Or probably they move him to the DH spot, were the Twins seek for much needed help.

[Johan_Pwns_All]

:clapping Mauer Won't Leave Minnesota...He Owns All Catchers...Great Hitter:clapping

[SoxSon]

However, projecting Mauer at this point to be the greatest catcher ever is probably jumping the gun.


Agreed. Guys, this is only Mauer's third season in major league baseball, right? Wait a bit before giving him any titles.

[KCGHOST]

The selection of Mauer over Prior is sure looking good right now. His early injury problem were trauma related and shouldn't be chronic.

[nnarum23]

Joe Mauer = Best catcher in baseball

[fox]

his average is up to .389 right now, he went 5 for 5 tonight! The kid never struck out in is high school days, ever. Has any one got his auto? he dosnt sign usually on the sweet spot, you got to ask him to do it.otherwise he signs under the MLB logo.

[fox]

up to .392 now, yesterday hitting 2 for 3.

[weazelsden]

I agree with u ther & desperatly want him 2 b traded 2 a better team so every1 can realise how impressive he is. Sorry Twins fans

GO JOE :clapping :gt

Traded to a better team? Maybe you don't watch baseball, but the Twins have won 3 division titles in the last 5 year, and winning at least 85 games in the two years they didn't win the division.

I'm going to gusss that you are a Redsox or a Yankees fan. If you take the best case scenario out of questions (Yankess), and the worst case scenario out of question (Tampa Bay), what you are left with? How many world series has any other team won in the last 20 years? I'm going to bet that if you aren't a Yankees fan, the Twins have won more world series in the last 20 years then your team has.

While I don't appreciate his comments about Mauer playing for a "better team", please refrain from using profanity and personal attacks in the future. Thank you. -insanefishpossay

[Red Sox Rule]

Traded to a better team? Maybe you don't watch baseball, but the Twins have won 3 division titles in the last 5 year, and winning at least 85 games in the two years they didn't win the division.

I'm going to gusss that you are a Redsox or a Yankees fan. If you take the best case scenario out of questions (Yankess), and the worst case scenario out of question (Tampa Bay), what you are left with? How many world series has any other team won in the last 20 years? I'm going to bet that if you aren't a Yankees fan, the Twins have won more world series in the last 20 years then your team has.

Erm....Calm Down mate. He was only giving his opinion and he's a neutral fan from what i gather anyway.

The Twins might have won division titles but they haven't won a world series recently so maybe thats what he basis his 'big' teams on?

[Rennie Stennett]

I would love to see this guy make a run at it. He doesn't seem to be slowing down as some have predicted.

[Edgartohof]

Think about this: Mauer could go 0-82, and STILL be hitting .300!!!

[weazelsden]

Erm....Calm Down mate. He was only giving his opinion and he's a neutral fan from what i gather anyway.

The Twins might have won division titles but they haven't won a world series recently so maybe thats what he basis his 'big' teams on?

Won a world series recently? Twins won world series in 1987 and 1991. In baseball, that's as recently as your are going to get.

Before the White Sox won the World Series last year, they won one in 1917 before falling on their faces for YEARS!!!.

Before the Red Sox won their's in 2004, then won their last one in 1918 before falling on their faces for YEARS!!!! (I also challenge anyone to name a home grown Red Sox player, other then Bill Buckner and Wade Boggs)

How many times have the Yankees CHOKED in the last 5 years?

After the Twins kicked the Braves asses in 1991, how many times did the Braves they get BACK to the World Series, only to win it ONCE?

If we are using recent World Series to base a good team on, then I guess the Florida Marlins should be the BEST team in baseball, right? (1997, 2003) Oh wait, they are 8 games UNDER .500 right now.

You basically called the Twins out, and said that they AREN'T a good team. So, I guess I'm curious as to what your definition of a "good team" is, because the Twins have a better 5 Year record then almost every team in baseball. My guess is that you are going to say "Red Sox, Yankees, Whites Sox, bla bla bla."

And, in case you haven't been watching baseball, the Twins are 18-2 in their last 20 games. They got rid of the chumps that they signed in the off season, and are playing the REAL talent in the organization.

Justin Morneau is on pace to hit 40+ Home Runs.

Jason Kubel (who was a started against the Yankees in the 2004 Divisional Playoffs) has finally recovered from knee surgery, and is ripping it up with regular playing time.

The Twins also have two (that's right, two, not ONE, for all you ignant east coast fans) Cy Young Candidates with Santana and Liriano.

If I was any team in baseball right now, the team I would LEAST want to play would be the Twins. And, that's just based on the statistics.

Yeah, the Twins might not have movie stars like Alex "13 Errors" Rodriguez, Manny "I'm a lazy ass Outfield" Ramirez, or Jason "I took so many Steroids, I got cancer" Giambi. But, at least we DO have a good baseball team.

[Red Sox Rule]

Won a world series recently? What the F!@# is that supposed to mean? Twins won world series in 1987 and 1991. In baseball, that's as recently as your are going to get. If he's a neutral fan, he sure doesn't know what the hell is is talking about.
Before the White Sox won the World Series last year, they won one in 1917 before falling on their faces for YEARS!!!.

Before the Red Sox won their's in 2004, then won their last one in 1918 before falling on their faces for YEARS!!!! (I also challenge anyone to name a home grown Red Sox player, other then Bill Buckner and Wade Boggs)

How many times have the Yankees CHOKED in the last 5 years?

After the Twins kicked the Braves asses in 1991, how many times did the Braves they get BACK to the World Series, only to win it ONCE? I think they've choked on their own dicks 5 times.

If we are using recent World Series to base a good team on, then I guess the Florida Marlins should be the BEST team in baseball, right? (1997, 2003) Oh wait, they are 8 games UNDER .500 right now.

You basically called the Twins out, and said that they AREN'T a good team. So, I guess I'm curious as to what your definition of a "good team" is, because the Twins have a better 5 Year record then almost every team in baseball. My guess is that you are going to say "Red Sox, Yankees, Whites Sox, bla bla bla."

And, in case you haven't been watching baseball, the Twins are 18-2 in their last 20 games. They got rid of the chumps that they signed in the off season, and are playing the REAL talent in the organization.

Justin Morneau is on pace to hit 40+ Home Runs.

Jason Kubel (who was a started against the Yankees in the 2004 Divisional Playoffs) has finally recovered from knee surgery, and is ripping it up with regular playing time.

The Twins also have two (that's right, two, not ONE, for all you ignant east coast fans) Cy Young Candidates with Santana and Liriano.

If I was any team in baseball right now, the team I would LEAST want to play would be the Twins. And, that's just based on the statistics.

Yeah, the Twins might not have movie stars like Alex "13 Errors" Rodriguez, Manny "I'm a lazy ass Outfield" Ramirez, or Jason "I took so many Steroids, I got cancer" Giambi. But, at least we DO have a good baseball team.

Your commwents in bold are answered below:
1) 15 years is not what i class as recent. Thats why i said that!
2) Any evidence behind that. Just cos he's made a point you don't like
3) Homegrown player? a player that was born in Boston (Manny Delcarmen RP) or a player who has come through the farm system (Papelbon, Lester)
4) I never said the twins weren't a good team just not what i consider big because i haven't followed baseball long so they aren't one of the teams who i consider 'big'.
5)I never said that Sanatana and Liriano didn't have a chance for a CY young, i was talking about Mauer not pitching.

I think you really need to calm down cos you're just acting like an ar*e at the moment and looking to cause trouble. Unless you've got nothing good to say that is meaningful or intelligent i think you should just keep quiet.

[Rennie Stennett]

Mauer got the day off and the Twinkies still banged out 11 hits and 8 runs in their win.

I looked at the designs for the new ballpark and I like it. It's where every ballpark should be. In the heart of the downtown area.

[weazelsden]

Your commwents in bold are answered below:
1) 15 years is not what i class as recent. Thats why i said that!
2) Any evidence behind that. Just cos he's made a point you don't like
3) Homegrown player? a player that was born in Boston (Manny Delcarmen RP) or a player who has come through the farm system (Papelbon, Lester)
4) I never said the twins weren't a good team just not what i consider big because i haven't followed baseball long so they aren't one of the teams who i consider 'big'.
5)I never said that Sanatana and Liriano didn't have a chance for a CY young, i was talking about Mauer not pitching.

I think you really need to calm down cos you're just acting like an ar*e at the moment and looking to cause trouble. Unless you've got nothing good to say that is meaningful or intelligent i think you should just keep quiet.

I guess trying to classify a team as "good" is one thing. But, I think Twins fans would love to hear about what your classification of what a "Big" team is? Maybe you mean "fat"? I know the Red Sox definitly have a lot of fat on the roster. Lots of grey hairs too.

Baseball is not like football or basketball, where your champions are usually crowned before the season even starts.

If I have to hear another story about the Red Sox or the Yankees, I'm going to throw up. There's nothing worse then hearing about a couple of over-priced babies having a cat fight every week. And, if that's not enough, I have to hear stories about how your players are NOT happy every damn year.

I'll be honest with you, I used to like Boston back in the day, just because I hated the Yankees. But, after you kicked Nomar out of town, I realized that Boston isn't any better then the fans in the Big Apple.

It wasn't bad luck that you couldn't win a World Series (prior to purchasing one in 2004), you guys just didn't know how to run an organization.

You can keep your store bought World Series. Just make sure you keep the reciept, because you aren't going to win one anytime soon.

[weazelsden]

Mauer was injured in his first two seasons. And that's not a good omen. Recently we've seen sure fire All-Star players that have been sidelined due to injuries. That's not good. Look at Kerry Wood. If he would've been healthy he could've had a ton of K's and a good amount of wins, but he hasn't. He has the talent, but lacks the health.

Such a rigurous position as a catcher needs health, and even so, they don't play so much. Let's see how Mauer fares. Or probably they move him to the DH spot, were the Twins seek for much needed help.

Mauer only had one major injury, and it was a freak injury. Kerry Wood's problems are all natural. His body cannot handle the wear and tear. Mauer may not catch for the rest of his life either. When he gets the day off from behind the plate, he hits DH. If his knees give out, the Twins will find a place for him somewhere else.

[weazelsden]

Not sure you can say he'll never leave, but i agree that he's one of the best catchers in the league right now.

I agree with outta here to in that i don't think he'll get the right recognition he deserves unless he does move. No disrespect to minnesota

And in regards to this quote, Mauer gets recognition because he is a home town player. If he played for the Redsox, he'd probably get run out of town for having a bad year. Redsox fans would never fully appreciate a player like Mauer.

[Red Sox Rule]

Now you sound like a bigger idiot then before. I guess trying to classify a team as "good" is one thing. But, I think Twins fans would love to hear about what your classification of what a "Big" team is? Maybe you mean "fat"? I know the Red Sox definitly have a lot of fat on the roster. Lots of grey hairs too.

I think you need to stop defending the idiots. because you are just digging a bigger hole for yourself.

Baseball is not like football or basketball, where your champions are usually crowned before the season even starts. So, until you can consider yourself a REAL baseball fan, and know who is good and who isn't, and possibly appreciate the game outside of Bean Town, then get the hell out of here.

If I have to hear another story about the Red Sox or the Yankees, I'm going to throw up. There's nothing worse then hearing about a couple of over-priced babies having a cat fight every week. And, if that's not enough, I have to hear stories about how your players are NOT happy every damn year.

I'll be honest with you, I used to like Boston back in the day, just because I hated the Yankees. But, after you kicked Nomar out of town, I realized that Boston isn't any better then the punks in the Big Apple.

It wasn't bad luck that you couldn't win a World Series (prior to purchasing one in 2004), you guys just didn't know how to run an organization.

You can keep your store bought World Series. Just make sure you keep the reciept, because you aren't going to win one anytime soon.

I'm an idiot. :ughh Mate, your attacks with no basis and evidence make you the biggest idiot here.

I do consider myself a real baseball fan. Ilike watching every team in the MLB including the twins and just because i'm a boston fan doesn't mean i can't appreciate anything outside bean town.

The reason i said that Mauer will probably have to be traded to be fully appreciated has just been confirmed by the all star teams. Is Mauer catcher? No! Why? because he's not as popular as rodriguez, varitek and posada.

That was my original statemanet and that is my reasoning behind it. I never attcked the Twins. I never said they weren't a good team.

[Red Sox Rule]

And in regards to this stupid quote, Mauer gets recognition because he is a home town player. If he played for the Redsox, he'd probably get run out of town for having a bad year. Redsox fans would never fully appreciate a player like Mauer.

Yes Mauer gets recongition from Twins fans but clearly he doesn't from other teams fans or he'd be in the all star team

[Red Sox Rule]

Think you could tone it down a bit? If you don't like what he says, then just ignore him. You can share your opinion if you want, just as he can, but at least be civil about it.

I'm simply trying to defend a point i made. I have no intention of causing trouble. Sorry it kinda got out of hand but i'm trying to make it clear i have nothing against the Twins or Mauer and was just giving my opinion

[Red Sox Rule]

You just keep digging a bigger hole buddy. Mauer will not have to be traded, you stupid stupid idiot. Mauer not starting in the All Star Game has nothing to do with the popularity of Rodriguez, Varitek and Posada. Where is VAritek and Posada right now? Not in the All Star Game. Right there, you just made yourself look like a fool. Mauer is 23 years old. I'll repeat that. Mauer is 23 years old. When he's done winning a few batting titles, you can kiss your Rodriguez, Varitek, and Posada good bye. Mauer will start an All Star Game Twins uniform, and I can promise you it will be more times then Varitek or Posada ever have.

Perfect example, Mark Loretta is starting in the All Star Game. Are you F@#$ kidding me? Mark Loretta is NOT an All Star. Mark Loretta wouldn't even start in the Twins Lineup.

Mauer doesn't need to be appreciate by Boston fans or Yankees fans to be appreciated. The sports writers, coaches, and players are the only appreciation he will need.

varitek was top of the voting list for the All Star game until rodriguez took him over at the last miunte meaning he was getting a high number of votes. He hasn't been playing well enough to get into the all star team in my opinion but he still came second because of his popularity, which is probably based on the team he plays for.
Here are the total from a whil back but they still give an accurate picture (obviusoly rodriguez over took varitek but i couldn't find any newer stats):
Catcher
1. Jason Varitek, Red Sox 831,154
2. Ivan Rodriguez, Tigers 803,964
3. Jorge Posada, Yankees 608,670
4. A.J. Pierzynski, White Sox 493,385
5. Joe Mauer, Twins 464,161


Mauer, who i voted for and deserves to be in the All Star team is behind 4 'big' names who, barring maybe Rodriguez haven't really had all star game seasons.

the all star game voting is for many people voting fvor your favourite players or the most popular players and thats all i meant by Mauer not being as popular. If it was voted by merit he'd be top but he isn't

[weazelsden]

varitek was top of the voting list for the All Star game until rodriguez took him over at the last miunte meaning he was getting a high number of votes. He hasn't been playing well enough to get into the all star team in my opinion but he still came second because of his popularity, which is probably based on the team he plays for.
Here are the total from a whil back but they still give an accurate picture (obviusoly rodriguez over took varitek but i couldn't find any newer stats):
Catcher
1. Jason Varitek, Red Sox 831,154
2. Ivan Rodriguez, Tigers 803,964
3. Jorge Posada, Yankees 608,670
4. A.J. Pierzynski, White Sox 493,385
5. Joe Mauer, Twins 464,161


Mauer, who i voted for and deserves to be in the All Star team is behind 4 'big' names who, barring maybe Rodriguez haven't really had all star game seasons.

the all star game voting is for many people voting fvor your favourite players or the most popular players and thats all i meant by Mauer not being as popular. If it was voted by merit he'd be top but he isn't

There are more people living in Boston and NewYork then in the Twin Cities. That's it. You've got nothing else on that.

When MLB opened up All Star Voting to online voters, they basically shut out the small market team. That is why a sorry excuse like Mark Loretta is starting in the All Star game. Nobody outside of Boston is voting for Mark Loretta, so don't give me your popularity argument. Loretta is popular in one town with a LOT of people. Big deal.

Rodriguez is a hall of famer who will be in the All Star Game as long as he can walk. Like I said, Mauer is only 23. When Rodriguez starts to get old, and Mauer is winning batting titles, Mauer will start an All Star Game in a Twins Uniform, I promise you that. In fact, I'll bet that after Mauer wins his batting title this year, he'll get that vote next year.

Varietk and Posada don't have enough life left in them to compete with Mauer. And, Pierzynski will wear out his welcome in Chicago before he ever gets any credit.

Don't try to tell us Twins fans that Mauer will not be appreciated until he is traded to a "better team". Why don't you let the kid grown up a little bit before you start saying that he'll never be appreciated playing for the Twins. He's 23 years old, and he's playing in the All Star Game. You can't be appreciated until you accomplished a few things first. Playing in the All Star Game at the age of 23 is a damn good start.

[weazelsden]

Yes Mauer gets recongition from Twins fans but clearly he doesn't from other teams fans or he'd be in the all star team

He's only 23 years old. There isn't a starter in the American League All Star roster younger then 30.

[Red Sox Rule]

I haven't bashed the twins i simply made a reasonable point, which is more than you have done.

The point of this site is to have intelligent and friendly baseball chat. You so far have done neither. That is why i'm asking you to leave.

[weazelsden]

I haven't bashed the twins i simply made a reasonable point, which is more than you have done.

The point of this site is to have intelligent and friendly baseball chat. You so far have done neither. That is why i'm asking you to leave.

The point you tried to make is that Varitek and Posada are more popular then Mauer amoungst baseball fans. My point is that the only "fans" who voted for Posada and Varitek are in New York and Boston, who have a substantial population to back up there their stupidity. Hence, Mark Loretta
(which you have yet to defend I might add).

My other point is that Mauer is 23, and that he's too young to get any recognition whatsoever, despite who he is playing for. You are telling me that because he didn't get voted as a STARTER at the age of 23, that he needs to be traded to a "BIG" team get enough recognition to start the All Star Game.

Mauer will start the All Star Game, probably as early as next year.

My point is plain and clear, and you have no arguement for it.

[insanefishpossay]

weazelsden, Please check your PM Box and read the message I sent you.

If you want to defend Mauer, you are certainly welcome to. Just keep profanity and personal attacks out of it.

Fans from other teams are more than welcome to come discuss the Twins here. Quite honestly I don't want people like you to scare them away. If mindlessly bashing other teams is something you enjoy, I'd suggest going over to the message boards at www.mlb.com, where that kind of talk is widely accepted.

[weazelsden]

weazelsden, Please check your PM Box and read the message I sent you.

If you want to defend Mauer, you are certainly welcome to. Just keep profanity and personal attacks out of it.

Fans from other teams are more than welcome to come discuss the Twins here. Quite honestly I don't want people like you to scare them away. If mindlessly bashing other teams is something you enjoy, I'd suggest going over to the message boards at www.mlb.com, where that kind of talk is widely accepted.

So, when people bash my team, on my team's forum, I'm not allowed to fight back? I'm not going to let someone lecture me on baseball, just because they live in a bigger city then I do. Your team finally wins a World Series, after 86 years of humilation, and all of a sudden the Red Sox fans are lecturing other teams on what we should be doing with our players? Give it up. If it wasn't for that big green wall in left field, nobody would give the Red Sox so much as a nod. I'll take Wrigley field any day.

[insanefishpossay]

So, when people bash my team, on my team's forum, I'm not allowed to fight back?

You certainly are allowed to fight back, as long as you keep it mature and intelligent.

Your team finally wins a World Series, after 86 years of humilation, and all of a sudden the Red Sox fans are lecturing other teams on what we should be doing with our players?

Maybe you interpreted what he said the wrong way? I read through all his posts, and never once got the impression that he was trying to lecture anybody.

[Red Sox Rule]

Maybe you interpreted what he said the wrong way? I read through all his posts, and never once got the impression that he was trying to lecture anybody.

Thank you, i wasn't trying to lecture any one or cause trouble, i was just making a point and i'm sorry if you took it the wrong way.

And by the way weazelsden, i live in England not Boston so i don't live in a bigger city than you.

[weazelsden]

You certainly are allowed to fight back, as long as you keep it mature and intelligent.



Maybe you interpreted what he said the wrong way? I read through all his posts, and never once got the impression that he was trying to lecture anybody.

Read between the lines dude. You obviously don't know any Red Sox fans. I know a few, and I KNOW a condescending comment when I see one. They think they have a precious frachise who has had nothing but eny for the New Yankees for 80+ years. Now that they have their World Series, and MLB has opened up voting for the All Star Game online (thus, giving them the advantage in voting because of their dense (double meaning) population), they think they are on top of the world.

Here's a little piece of advise for you Red Sox fan.s A World Series is a World Series. It doesn't matter if it happened 2 years ago, or 15 years ago. Get off your pedestal. Now is now. Your team is just as small, if not smaller, then the Minnesota Twins. You just have a bigger wall in the outfield. You'll be watching football during the baseball playoffs, and we'll be watching baseball, I can promise you that. Wish us luck against the Yankees in the ALCS. Have a great day. Long live the Babe. He gave you one, just to keep your mouths shut. But, his plan backfired, so you can bet that he won't give you another one for 100 years.

[fox]

what was this thread about to begin with? I'm getting bored with this red sox/ yankees rabble. "rabble rabble rabble rabble!":grouchy

[coltsfan23]

im a redsox fan... GO RED SOX!!! but yea, mauer is amazing! i live in minnesota and ive seen him play alot... hes really good! hes one of the best hitteres in the MLB!