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Oriolesfan1810
06-03-2006, 10:09 PM
(Around the Horn theme)

Buy? Or Sellllllll!

It's buy or sell time, let's do it. After your answer, do another buy or sell question

First up - Buy or Sell:
Sammy Perlozzo, Leo Mazzone, Lee Elia, and Terry Crowley all losing their jobs after this season is over with.

Chelle
06-03-2006, 11:35 PM
Sell: Only because I don't think we've given Mazzone a good enough chance with only one year with our guys...and Terry I think has been doing a good job. However, after one more year of none producing...GONE.

Buy or Sell: Trade (however we have to) or Conine/Millar/Matos or any combination of.

Oriolesfan1810
06-04-2006, 08:40 AM
Sell: Conine is a solid defensive hitter and has been putting up some awfully good numbers. Millar hasn't had his switch turned on yet, but it will happen. Luis though has to go, he hasn't shown how good he can really be.

Buy or Sell
Ramon Hernandez wins the AL Gold Glove at the Catchers position over Ivan Rodriguez.

J W
06-04-2006, 01:12 PM
Sell: I-Rod has more recognition and his team is winning.

B or S -- 3/5 or more of the O's starting rotation this season will be in their starting rotation next season.

JohnGelnarFan
06-04-2006, 01:21 PM
Sell on Hernandez winning the Gold Glove this year. He's been great at throwing out runners but he leads the league in errors(7),passed balls(8) and lowest fielding percentage(.978)

Buy or Sell:
Let Bruce Chen stay in the rotation until the All-Star break to try and find his form or send him to the bullpen/minors


Sell: Conine is a solid defensive hitter and has been putting up some awfully good numbers. Millar hasn't had his switch turned on yet, but it will happen. Luis though has to go, he hasn't shown how good he can really be.

Buy or Sell
Ramon Hernandez wins the AL Gold Glove at the Catchers position over Ivan Rodriguez.

Oriolesfan1810
06-04-2006, 01:58 PM
Sell Sell Sell:
Chen stinks worse than a dead fish.

Buy or Sell:
Miguel Tejada will have at least 22 homeruns before the break

Chelle
06-04-2006, 06:48 PM
Buy or Sell:
Miguel Tejada will have at least 22 homeruns before the break

Buy, in his "slump" month of May he hit 8 home runs....so that means he only needs to hit 8 more by July 11th.

B/S: The Orioles will have more than 2 players on the All-Star team.

Oriolesfan1810
06-04-2006, 08:36 PM
Buy, Tejada, Ray, and Hernandez

Oriolesfan1810
06-04-2006, 08:37 PM
Buy or Sell:
Orioles will have not so good first half, but a very strong second half

Chelle
06-05-2006, 01:00 PM
BUY BUY BUY!!!! I'm seeing bats heating up. Lopez is getting into a kinda groove with Lopez catching him (Lopez/Lopez)...and with Cabrera coming back and Penn/Loewen added to pitching we can get rid of Chen.

Buy or Sell: Angelos makes good on his promise and actually makes a decent trade this year since we're not "out of it."

Oriolesfan1810
06-05-2006, 01:14 PM
Buy:
Angelos better or he's going to have a really angry fan base

Buy or Sell:
Benson gets 13-16 wins this year.

Chelle
06-05-2006, 01:33 PM
Sell: He's never had more than 12 wins in his career. However, If his stats stay consistant for the past two months, he pitches about 5 games a month and wins 3 and loses 2. I hope he does...but I don't the he will.

Buy or Sell: C-Pat leads the MLB in stolen bases.

Oriolesfan1810
06-05-2006, 05:57 PM
Buy.
It's going to be close. I'll say he'll finish with 57 to 62.

Buy or Sell:
O's at least 1 to 3 games from .500 by the all-star break.

Chelle
06-05-2006, 06:17 PM
Buy: We're on a roll baby! Look at tonights game (no jinx!)....

Buy or Sell: The Orioles are in 1st or 2nd place in the division by the All-Star break

Oriolesfan1810
06-05-2006, 06:40 PM
Sell.
I'll say 3rd and it's going to get tight here very soon. With a strong second half.. we'll be good.

Buy or sell:
Orioles are actually busy before the July 31 trading deadline. Getting pitching help and extra contact bats.

Chelle
06-05-2006, 06:56 PM
Sell: I've been an O's fan to long to know that Peter promises but never delivers on that. I don't see us getting anyone really....even if we were close in a race.

Buy or Sell: Daniel Cabrera's injury helps him get control (finally) of his pitching.

Oriolesfan1810
06-05-2006, 07:39 PM
Buy:
Cabrera looked very good today. But he definitely has to get his pitch count down.

Buy Or Sell:
Chris Ray becomes a dominant closer for the next 4 to 5 years.

JohnGelnarFan
06-06-2006, 05:40 PM
Buy
Chris Ray has the stuff and attitude to make it as a big time closer


Buy Or Sell:
Javy Lopez will end up with 25 homers and 80 RBI's



Buy:
Cabrera looked very good today. But he definitely has to get his pitch count down.

Buy Or Sell:
Chris Ray becomes a dominant closer for the next 4 to 5 years.

Oriolesfan1810
06-06-2006, 06:16 PM
Buy:
he's starting to heat up a bit. It'll be close though

Buy or Sell:
O's make a charge for the wild card in the second half.

Chelle
06-06-2006, 06:57 PM
Buy: If they manage to take these games from the Jay's.

Buy or Sell: The 4 SS we got in the draft today were good pick ups and will help us in the future with power hitting and replacing an aging Mora and Tejada in the next 3-4 years.

Oriolesfan1810
06-07-2006, 02:58 AM
Buy:
Certainly, no question. Rowell will be a classy hitter with good pop. I see him being the next Mark Texieira

Buy or Sell:
Hayden Penn will get a start this year.

Chelle
06-07-2006, 05:47 AM
That's a tough one.

Buy: Even if Loewen ends up dominating on Thursday, I think the plan is still to work Hayden back into the rotation and send Loewen back until the end of the year (when his contract says he has to be up). I think the plan is for Hayden/Loewen next year for sure...and maybe we'll get rid of Lopez.

Buy or sell: B-Rob goes to the All-Star game without hitting a HR.

JohnGelnarFan
06-07-2006, 09:27 AM
Sell
He may have 0 homers at the break but I don't think Brian will be an All-Star this year

Buy Or Sell
Rick Dempsey will be the next Elrod and finish his career in Baltimore.



That's a tough one.

Buy: Even if Loewen ends up dominating on Thursday, I think the plan is still to work Hayden back into the rotation and send Loewen back until the end of the year (when his contract says he has to be up). I think the plan is for Hayden/Loewen next year for sure...and maybe we'll get rid of Lopez.

Buy or sell: B-Rob goes to the All-Star game without hitting a HR.

Chelle
06-07-2006, 11:38 AM
Buy!! I hope the Dempster never leaves this town. With WS MVP from 1983...he's an icon.

Buy or sell: If by 2008 we don't have another trip to the WS (25 years since '83) Peter Angelos makes drastic overhaul including new manager, new front office staff, etc.

Oriolesfan1810
06-07-2006, 01:32 PM
Buy:
I think Angelos is going to be hauled out of baltimore himself.

Buy or Sell:
The bats will begin to heat up in the 2nd half.

JohnGelnarFan
06-07-2006, 02:33 PM
Buy
I think they're heating up now.When Gibbons gets back,we'll have one more option.

Buy Or Sell
Now that he's a free agent,should the O's try to re-sign Jason Grimsley?? :eek:

Oriolesfan1810
06-07-2006, 03:50 PM
Sell:
NO! not after that crap with Steroids and Illegal Substances! Wasn't Baltimore's image tarnished enough when Raffy took steroids?!

Buy or Sell:
Loewen will be rookie of the year next year if he pitches well.

Chelle
06-07-2006, 07:18 PM
Sell: Even if he pitches well...Loewen's style appears to be consistant with most O's and he gets a lot of walks. Plus, the O's don't seem to ever get those kind of awards...if he was a Yankee or a Red Sox...different story.

Buy or Sell: Next years starting rotation will be Cabrera, Bedard, Benson, Penn, Loewen.

Oriolesfan1810
06-07-2006, 08:54 PM
Buy.
I think Lopez and Chen are gone after this season. but watch them do good with other teams.

buy or sell:
at least 2 players on our squad winning gold gloves..

J W
06-08-2006, 11:10 AM
Sell:

Hernandez - maybe
whoever's at 1B - no
Roberts - no
Tejada - no
Mora - no
Gibbons - heck no
Patterson - maybe
Markakis / LF - no
pitchers - don't think so

so, I'm thinking one out of Hernandez and Patterson can take the hardware. But there's a good possibility we get zero. I don't think our infield has played as well defensively than in the past two years.

Buy or Sell -- This year's Orioles team would be competetive in the AL West

Oriolesfan1810
06-08-2006, 11:14 AM
Mixed.
We're not a west coast team and yes, kinda.

Buy or Sell:
O's should decrease the payroll next season and get rid of some old players.

J W
06-08-2006, 11:37 AM
Buy: The team should get rid of their old guys
Sell: The team doesn't need to decrease payroll. We just need to spend more on players with some future (like Hernandez and Benson) and less on 38 year olds

Buy or Sell (rephrased) -- The Orioles, under Peter Angelos, would be a competetive team if Baltimore were situated on the west coast.

Erik Bedard
06-08-2006, 01:13 PM
Sell. There would be WAY too much competition for a fan base and there would be no money.
Buy. They would play in the AL West.

Buy or Sell: Bedard and/or Cabrera will develop by next year.

Chelle
06-08-2006, 01:24 PM
Sell: I think Cabrera will always be the guy he is. Throwing hard, lots of pitches and high pitch count. This is it...the best he's going to do.

Sell: Bedard is injury prone and seems to peter off. I don't think we're getting more out of him then we're getting. Good stuff...not great.

Buy or Sell: The Orioles will be a competative team in the AL East in the next 3-5 years.

JohnGelnarFan
06-08-2006, 01:29 PM
You forgot about Jeff Conine in right field. :laugh


Sell:

Hernandez - maybe
whoever's at 1B - no
Roberts - no
Tejada - no
Mora - no
Gibbons - heck no
Patterson - maybe
Markakis / LF - no
pitchers - don't think so

so, I'm thinking one out of Hernandez and Patterson can take the hardware. But there's a good possibility we get zero. I don't think our infield has played as well defensively than in the past two years.

Buy or Sell -- This year's Orioles team would be competetive in the AL West

JohnGelnarFan
06-08-2006, 01:36 PM
I'd like to say buy but I have to say sell
It's been at least 8 years since wev'e been good and I don't know if the talent will be that much different. A 5 year window is a long time though....Maybe?

Buy or Sell:
Jay Gibbons will still be an Oriole in 2 years.





Sell: I think Cabrera will always be the guy he is. Throwing hard, lots of pitches and high pitch count. This is it...the best he's going to do.

Sell: Bedard is injury prone and seems to peter off. I don't think we're getting more out of him then we're getting. Good stuff...not great.

Buy or Sell: The Orioles will be a competative team in the AL East in the next 3-5 years.

Erik Bedard
06-08-2006, 01:39 PM
Sell: He's just not good enough to start every day for a while.

Buy or Sell:

Peter Angelos will not own the Orioles in two years.

P.S: JGF, could you please post your comment after the quote? Thanks. :)

JohnGelnarFan
06-08-2006, 01:55 PM
Sure. Sorry!:waving After last night's stellar play,I couldn't resist!

Oriolesfan1810
06-08-2006, 02:31 PM
Buy:
The fans are going to run him out of Baltimore just like the Lions fans ran Matt McMillen out of Detroit.

Buy or Sell:
Orioles stand pat at the trading deadline next month.

Chelle
06-08-2006, 02:32 PM
Sell: He's just not good enough to start every day for a while.

Buy or Sell:

Peter Angelos will not own the Orioles in two years.


Sadly....

buy: He's going to die with our team in his talons...and "leave it to his handsome sons"

Buy or sell: Peter is going to make a play for Barry Bonds.

Johnny Seven
06-08-2006, 02:40 PM
Killing two birds with one stone (sorry for the metaphor!):

Sell. Angelos will make a tiny deal that will not pan out and the Birds will eventually re-sign the player they trade away and also lose all the players that they receive. Barry Bonds will not be involved.

Buy or Sell: The Orioles will finish third.

Oriolesfan1810
06-08-2006, 02:50 PM
Sell:
Try 2nd place and the wild card.

Buy or sell:
Grimsley's connections and pointing to the O's will have an adverse effect on the season now that he made the accusations.

SoxSon
06-08-2006, 03:51 PM
Sell:
Try 2nd place and the wild card.

Buy or sell:
Grimsley's connections and pointing to the O's will have an adverse effect on the season now that he made the accusations.


Huh?! I'd honestly see the Devil Rays taking 2nd and/or the wildcard before Baltimore. I'm sorry...I'm not saying that to be mean, just truthful.

Grimsley will have zero influence on Baltimore, so sell.

B or S:

Ray will reach 35 saves this season.

JohnGelnarFan
06-08-2006, 04:36 PM
Buy
Chris Ray already has 14 and has only pitched 23 Innings. He'll stay strong and get 35.

Buy Or Sell
No Oriole starting pitcher will have better than a 4.50 ERA at season's end.

Oriolesfan1810
06-08-2006, 06:06 PM
Sell:
Benson is going to take the lead and he's going to have a sub 4.50 ERA and lead the team with 14+ wins. The O's are going to come around sooner or later with pitching... Mazzone is not that dumb.

Buy or sell:
Chris Ray being the next Ryan Kohlmeier. Doing good one season bad the next.

Chelle
06-08-2006, 07:29 PM
Sell: Chris is still kind of learning the ropes. Admittedly, he's few big blow ups have been against big teams (like the Yankees), but I think he's getting better with each bit of experience he gets. I think next year will be even better.

Buy or Sell: Orioles finish with a ERA of 5 (or over) for the year.

Oriolesfan1810
06-08-2006, 08:59 PM
Sell:
I'll say 4.99 or lower. Second half is going to be good

Buy or Sell:
Melvin Mora hits 30 or more longballs this season

Chelle
06-09-2006, 12:18 PM
Sell: He's only got 8 right now. He hit 5 in April, 3 in March, and none so far for June...so he's going the wrong direction for HRs. I think he'll hit around 20ish.

But or Sell: Adam Loewen will make only one more start for the O's this year.

JohnGelnarFan
06-09-2006, 02:24 PM
Buy
Loewen may not even keep a bullpen spot. He's overmatched right now.

Buy or Sell
Birkins will take on a more prominent roll out of the bullpen and end up with an ERA under 2.50 for the year

Oriolesfan1810
06-09-2006, 05:56 PM
Buy!
Birkins is a beast!

Buy or sell:
Orioles should get rid of Tom Trebelhorn at 3rd base.

Chelle
06-09-2006, 06:03 PM
Buy: Trebs is a nightmare and is asleep 1/2 the time.

Buy or sell: At the end of the year we should be looking at managerial change.

Oriolesfan1810
06-10-2006, 07:29 AM
Buy:
Angelos isn't going to let Perlozzo stay. Angelos is going to say the Perlozzo experiment is over with. If Perlozzo goes then I bet Mazzone is going to pack his bags too because that's his best friend.

Buy or sell:
Orioles will have a 4+ game winning streak this year.

Chelle
06-10-2006, 09:51 AM
Buy or sell:
Orioles will have a 4+ game winning streak this year.

I hate to say this but...

Sell: I don't think so. We've only had a couple 3 game win steaks (and it's only when we've played teams like TB or the Royals.) We've only swept the Royals. To put together a 4 game winning streak we're going to have to sweep teams and we're not always going to play the Royals.

Buy or Sell: The Orioles will win at least 1 division series this year that's not against TB.

Oriolesfan1810
06-10-2006, 11:19 AM
Buy:
We split with Toronto, that's not bad. We'll get the Yankees, believe me!

buy or sell:
Orioles never seem to get the correct calls when they play New York.

JohnGelnarFan
06-10-2006, 11:53 AM
Buy
I'll bet most second division teams have that problem with umps.


Buy Or Sell
Chen will be demoted and Eric DuBose will be called up.

Oriolesfan1810
06-10-2006, 12:30 PM
Sell:
Call another Triple-A hand up. Dubose ain't worth it.

Buy or Sell:
Orioles have a much more improved 2nd Half.

Outta Here
06-10-2006, 12:48 PM
Sell. Doesnt look like happenin to me, sorry!

B or S:

D-Cabrera Ks more than BBs this yr??

JohnGelnarFan
06-10-2006, 01:26 PM
Buy
But he may be very "Bobby Witt Like"
In 1987,Bobby Witt pitched 143 Innings for Texas and walked 140 while striking out 160!

Buy Or Sell
The Pitching staff will have less than 5 complete games for the whole year.

Outta Here
06-10-2006, 01:52 PM
Sell - I hope, that's pretty poor if it happens.

B or S:

Any pitcher gets to 15 wins this yr?

JohnGelnarFan
06-10-2006, 02:16 PM
Buy
I really think Benson can do it this year.

Buy or Sell
If the offense sputters,the O's will call up Fernando Tatis to give the bench some veteran backup.

Erik Bedard
06-10-2006, 04:58 PM
Buy
I really think Benson can do it this year.

Buy or Sell
If the offense sputters,the O's will call up Fernando Tatis to give the bench some veteran backup.

Sell.

They should call up Jeff Fiorentino. Tatis is old and washed up.

B or S:

Brian Roberts will finish the season batting .300+

Chelle
06-10-2006, 05:43 PM
Sell: He had a career year last year with .314, but he normally averages in the high .270s. I think he will finish just under .300.

Buy or Sell: B-Rob hits less than 5 HRs this year.

JohnGelnarFan
06-11-2006, 09:25 AM
Buy
He has pretty good pop for his size but Roberts isn't an 18 homerun guy. 5 fits his swing more realistically. He doesn't have one yet,so below 5 looks like a possibility.

Buy Or Sell
Millar's final numbers will be in the neighborhood of 15 homers,60 RBI's and .275

Chelle
06-11-2006, 10:48 AM
Buy: If you had asked me that last week I would have laughed so hard I would have fallen out of my chair. But, he's batting average is going up. He only needs 10 more HRs (only), and he's 1/2 way there on RBIs. I think he could do it. He's heating up.

Buy or Sell: Brandon Fehey not only does not get sent down but shares playing time and plays at least another 40 games this season.

JohnGelnarFan
06-11-2006, 11:07 AM
I was hoping you'd answer that one Chelle. I wanted to see if you were warming up to him even more. :)



Buy
Fahey is playing like a veteran utility man and gives the team additional spark in many ways.

Buy Or Sell
Carbera has pitched 11 shutout Innings since coming off of the D.L. Will he end up as the staff ace and continue lowering his ERA?

Chelle
06-11-2006, 11:13 AM
hahaha @ Millar....I'm becoming a Millar fan.

Buy: I think somehow the injury helped him. He normally allows a lot of men on base, but this time I think he's learning how to get the "important" outs. I think he's decreasing the amount of walks (he's only 2nd in MLB not 1st haha). And, he's not walking in runs. I think he's getting control.

Buy or Sell: Sammy will stick with Chen in the bullpen for the rest of the year. No matter how horrific he does. Unable to admit to the 3 million dollar mistake.

JohnGelnarFan
06-11-2006, 11:29 AM
Millar's growing on me too! :)



SELL!!
Chen is rapidly losing confidence and needs ANOTHER change of scenery!

Buy or Sell
Tejada will finish his career as an Oriole




hahaha @ Millar....I'm becoming a Millar fan.

Buy: I think somehow the injury helped him. He normally allows a lot of men on base, but this time I think he's learning how to get the "important" outs. I think he's decreasing the amount of walks (he's only 2nd in MLB not 1st haha). And, he's not walking in runs. I think he's getting control.

Buy or Sell: Sammy will stick with Chen in the bullpen for the rest of the year. No matter how horrific he does. Unable to admit to the 3 million dollar mistake.

Chelle
06-11-2006, 11:32 AM
Buy or Sell
Tejada will finish his career as an Oriole

Buy: I think as much as Tejada wants to win a WS, he knows he's better off as a big fish in a little pond. And, this is "his" team. He likes being the big gun.

Buy or Sell: Orioles are going to make a trade of some kind by the trade deadline.

JohnGelnarFan
06-11-2006, 12:03 PM
Buy
We'll make a trade for a veteran but not a star. What could we offer?...Chen?

Buy or Sell
Chris Britton will report to camp next year at a svelt 265 pounds

Oriolesfan1810
06-11-2006, 03:50 PM
Buy:
He needs to lose more though, 280 is a bit much, 230 to 240 is fine for a player of his size (6' 3")

Buy or sell:
Maryland and Mount St. Joe's Graduate Mark Teixiera as an Oriole in 2008.

Chelle
06-12-2006, 11:39 AM
Sell: I wish he would.

Buy or Sell: After being thrown out on his tush, Sammy leaves town and Rick Dempsey become Oriole manager.

Oriolesfan1810
06-12-2006, 05:29 PM
Sell:
No.

buy or sell:
o's reach 70 wins in august

Chelle
06-12-2006, 05:36 PM
Buy: I have to believe it....a fans crazy hope.

Buy or Sell: Orioles have a better seasons then the Nationals.

JohnGelnarFan
06-12-2006, 05:38 PM
Sell
I think early September

Buy or Sell
Nick Markakis will develop into a solid major leaguer as an Oriole

Chelle
06-12-2006, 06:52 PM
Sell
Buy or Sell
Nick Markakis will develop into a solid major leaguer as an Oriole

Buy: But I think it will take some time, such as allowing him to hit the lefties.

Buy or Sell: The return of Newhan and Gomez will end the "great rookie experement" of Markakis and Fahey.

JohnGelnarFan
06-12-2006, 07:14 PM
Buy the experiment question
The young guys are playing their hearts out but they have time and options to use. Gomez and Newhan are fairly proven veterans and if you have to pay them,you might as well use them. I guess it will depend on how the team is playing when they're ready too.

Sell on the Nationals question
The Nats are for real and only getting better. We don't see the O's playing that kind of baseball right now.


Buy or Sell
The O's will be better with Gibbons at first and Millar in left. Markakis stays in right.

Oriolesfan1810
06-12-2006, 09:00 PM
Sell:
Nah, keep 'em where they are. They are doing ok as long as they don't make errors.

Buy or Sell:
O's pitching gets better in the 2nd half.

J W
06-14-2006, 10:12 AM
Buy: They've got to get better! Right? :o

Buy/Sell -- As ESPN suggests, the Orioles should trade Miguel Tejada.

Chelle
06-14-2006, 10:30 AM
Sell: Without Miggy our team is completely at a loss for hitting in the lineup. Who would we get? Ramon is a solid hitter...but not a HR hitter. And, to be honest...Jay's got a while before we see him anywhere near power numbers again.

Buy or Sell: With Ramon doing so well and Gibby coming back (at some point?) we should trade Javy while he still has value.

JohnGelnarFan
06-14-2006, 11:44 AM
That's a tough one Chelle but I'll say sell. We need a homerun threat in this lineup especially with Gibbons out. He's the backup catcher too and very valuable if Hernandez gets hurt.


Buy or Sell
When Newhan comes back,Matos will go instead of Markakis

Johnny Seven
06-14-2006, 02:57 PM
That's a tough one Chelle but I'll say sell. We need a homerun threat in this lineup especially with Gibbons out. He's the backup catcher too and very valuable if Hernandez gets hurt.


Buy or Sell
When Newhan comes back,Matos will go instead of Markakis

Buy... I hope.

Buy or sell: Matos will be traded.

Oriolesfan1810
06-14-2006, 05:12 PM
Buy:
We have no space for Matos and he flat out sucks

Buy or Sell:
Orioles will break 2,400,000 in attendance this season.

JohnGelnarFan
06-14-2006, 05:43 PM
Bet we could get Terry Mullholland for Matos. :rolleyes:

Buy on the O's breaking 2,400,000.They are playing well enough to keep fans interested.

Buy or Sell
John Halama will be gone before the end of the month.



Buy:
We have no space for Matos and he flat out sucks

Buy or Sell:
Orioles will break 2,400,000 in attendance this season.

Erik Bedard
06-16-2006, 09:05 AM
Buy. With Penn and Byrdak coming back, somebody's got to go, and it looks like Halama.

Buy or Sell:

Birkins (my favorite Oriole!) will get a start this year.

JohnGelnarFan
06-16-2006, 01:40 PM
Buy
That's an interesting thought. Our starters average 5.1 Innings per start and aren't very reliable. We might as well put the most consistant performer out there to see if he can contribute even more.

Buy or Sell
Baltimore minor league great,Howie Clark will get called up soon.

Erik Bedard
06-17-2006, 11:48 AM
I guess I have to buy, he just did!

Buy or Sell:

The Birds will finish above .500.

JohnGelnarFan
06-17-2006, 01:06 PM
Sell
I don't think they have enough pitching and what we have,won't improve.

Buy or Sell
Corey Patterson will win Comeback Player Of The Year

Erik Bedard
06-17-2006, 02:00 PM
Sell

Buy or Sell:

The O's will sweep a series sometime this year. (If they already have, then it's if they will do it again)

Oriolesfan1810
06-17-2006, 02:53 PM
Buy
Sure! We're just lying in the wind right now... We're due for a big stretch.

Buy or sell:
Ramon Hernandez's ejection on June 16th fired up the orioles.

J W
06-17-2006, 10:35 PM
Buy -- looks like it to me so far in the Mets series.

B or S: Kris Benson will win 16+ games this season, which would be the most wins by an Orioles starter since 1999 (Mussina: 18-7)

Erik Bedard
06-18-2006, 07:15 AM
Buy - before last night I would have said sell!

Buy or Sell:

Jeff Conine will be traded sometime this season.

JohnGelnarFan
06-18-2006, 10:43 AM
Sell
I don't think Conine has the same worth that he's had in the past for someone's stretch drive. I think he'll retire after this year,in an Orioles uniform.

Buy or Sell
Loewen won't get out of the 4th inning against the Mets today

Erik Bedard
06-18-2006, 11:19 AM
Sell
I don't think Conine has the same worth that he's had in the past for someone's stretch drive. I think he'll retire after this year,in an Orioles uniform.

Buy or Sell
Loewen won't get out of the 4th inning against the Mets today

Sell - He'll do fine

Buy or Sell:

Adam Loewen is in the rotation next year

Oriolesfan1810
06-18-2006, 11:33 AM
Buy:
He has to be, but I think they'll start him in the 'pen first.

Buy or Sell:
Orioles will hit at least 4 grand slams this year.

Chelle
06-20-2006, 04:48 PM
Sell: We seems to be week on the power and the "clutch (I know it's politically incorrect to say) hitting"

Buy or Sell: We go double digits back tonight.

JohnGelnarFan
06-20-2006, 06:19 PM
Buy
4 runs behind against Willis is hard to come back on.

Buy or Sell
Mr. Marlin will go deep against his old team tonight

Chelle
06-21-2006, 06:23 AM
Sell: Mr. Marlin has 5 HRs on the year....last one was May 9. I say we have a better chance of him smashing 5+ bats tonights.

Buy or Sell: Sammy gives Loewen another start?

JohnGelnarFan
06-21-2006, 05:06 PM
Buy
The Nats will be a good team to test him against. Not a contender but capable of a hot night. Nick Johnson might still be out and that would make it easier for him. If he has another less than 5 Inning start,a decision about his status will have to be made.

Buy or Sell
Bruce Chen will get his starting job back if Loewen fails.

Chelle
06-22-2006, 11:02 AM
SELL!!!!! Chen get's his starting job back and I'll cry.

Buy or sell: Sammy lets one of our pitchers pitch a complete came or let's Markakis hit against lefties on a regular basis before the end of the season.

Erik Bedard
06-22-2006, 03:01 PM
Sell the first part (I'm assuming you mean again, as Benson has already done it), buy the second. If he won't let Bedard after last night, when will he? With all the injuries, Markakis HAS to eventually. Right?

Buy or Sell

Erik Bedard returns to his pre-injury form of last season and is the ace or #2 starter next year.

JohnGelnarFan
06-22-2006, 04:13 PM
Buy
Bedard has more talent than any other starter,including Cabrera and I doubt that the O's will aquire anyone better.

Buy or Sell
Howie Clark will start getting some playing time

Erik Bedard
06-24-2006, 06:28 PM
Sell. He's just not good enough, Fahey is better, plus he's an infielder.

Buy or Sell:

Daniel Cabrera or Erik Bedard will be traded sometime in the next three seasons.

JohnGelnarFan
06-24-2006, 06:48 PM
Buy
The O's will have to get something for them eventually before they're eligible for free agency.

Buy or Sell
Rodrigo Lopez will end up with at least 12 wins this year

Erik Bedard
06-28-2006, 05:22 PM
Sell. He's just not good enough, and with his bad start, it looks pretty unlikely to me.

Buy or Sell:

Erik Bedard will win 12 games this season.

JohnGelnarFan
07-02-2006, 12:30 PM
Buy
Bedard has looked great lately and I can't see him totally falling apart at this point


Buy or Sell

Russ Ortiz will win 6 games and stay in the rotation all year

Chelle
07-02-2006, 02:11 PM
Sell: Unless he can drop a little weight. Perhaps we can use him as a hitter instead.

Buy or sell: (Stops laughing) The All-Star Break is a turning point for us and we begin an uphill climb over .500.

JohnGelnarFan
07-02-2006, 04:43 PM
:laugh That's a thought!

Sell
The starting staff isn't solid enough and the bullpen ERA's have gone up.(even with Chen's scoreless Inning today) Unless Ortiz and Penn can make real contributions,the second half might be a long one.

Buy or Sell

Tejada's second half will be better than last year's dropoff.

Oriolesfan1810
07-02-2006, 07:35 PM
Buy:

I say .370+ in the 2nd half, 25 homeruns, 80 RBI. GIVE HIM THAT MVP!

Buy or Sell:

Chris Ray was Snubbed of an all-star bid.

Chelle
07-02-2006, 10:10 PM
Buy: Yes, but it's the O's fault. We don't really give him enough chances to shine.

Buy or Sell: Ramon gets the Final Vote.

Erik Bedard
07-03-2006, 02:34 PM
I'm sorry, even though he's the best catcher in the AL, Liriano is just a bit better. Sell.

Buy or Sell:

Erik Bedard will, at some point in his career, be an all-star. (Yes, I know almost all of my questions are about Bedard!)

J W
07-04-2006, 05:23 PM
Why not? :D

Buy -- I really think he has the stuff to put together at least one or two all-star seasons.

B/S: Bedard will be able to double his output so far and win 18 games this season.

Erik Bedard
07-04-2006, 05:44 PM
Buy. My level of optimism for Bedard is unmatched.

B/S:

CABRERA will be an All-Star sometime.

JohnGelnarFan
07-05-2006, 01:40 PM
Buy
With Cabera's stuff,he should be...one day

Buy or Sell
Rodrigo Lopez will end up making 30+ starts this year

Johnny Seven
07-06-2006, 06:06 AM
Sell. He's really struggling.

Buy or Sell:

Luis Matos will not be an Oriole come July 31st next year.

JohnGelnarFan
07-06-2006, 06:43 PM
Buy
today is a sad one in Orioles history.Luis lasted until July 7th this year (unless he's back before July 31st) I think he'll be with another team this time next year(If you really meant next year)

Buy or Sell
Millar will be the odd man out,instead of Markakis,when Gibbons comes off the D.L.

Erik Bedard
07-06-2006, 06:54 PM
Sell the Millar part, buy the Markakis part. Are you kidding? With Howie Clark and Ed Rogers on the active roster?

Buy or Sell:

The Orioles will make the playoffs in the next five years.

Chelle
07-06-2006, 07:34 PM
Buy or Sell:

The Orioles will make the playoffs in the next five years.

Buy: I have to have some hope....

Buy or Sell: Ortiz finishes the year as an Oriole.

JohnGelnarFan
07-06-2006, 07:44 PM
Sell
It's only 2 starts but he doesn't seem to have any zip or location. He's an inexpensive experiment and on a very short leash. I hope I'm wrong. We need experienced veterans LIKE him.....but maybe NOT him

Buy or sell

The team will trade one of our most promising minor league prospects for a real pitcher before the deadline.

JohnGelnarFan
07-07-2006, 07:22 PM
Hey MSM- I meant the guys that get lots of playing time. Clark and Rogers won't have to move from where they always sit!



Sell the Millar part, buy the Markakis part. Are you kidding? With Howie Clark and Ed Rogers on the active roster?

Buy or Sell:

The Orioles will make the playoffs in the next five years.

Erik Bedard
07-09-2006, 03:07 PM
Sell. They won't trade ANYONE for ANYTHING!

B or S:

Bedard wins 20 next year.

J W
07-09-2006, 03:42 PM
Sell: look for 15-18 wins unless the bullpen and lineup improve.

B/S - The Orioles will win 40+ games in the second half extending their streak to (gosh! :laugh ) three in a row.

JohnGelnarFan
07-10-2006, 03:52 PM
Sell
I want to say yes but my instincts say no. We have TERRIBLE pitching!

Buy or Sell

Sidney Ponson will be offered a minor league contract :rolleyes: