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Oriolesfan1810
05-29-2006, 02:12 PM
Do you think that we should take a stab at getting Dontrelle Willis or Miguel Cabrera before the trading deadline?

Cause the way I see it, no offense to the Marlins fans, the Marlins are going to be disbanded after the season is over with. They already had a large fire sale ($15.6 million payroll) and they are pretty competitive right now but not as competitive with all the minor leaguers and rookies they brought up.

I'd love to see Willis in the O's Black and Orange, he'd be a substantial pick up. But the way I see it, the yankees general management will push through everyone before the trading deadline and say "Mr. Willis.... Come, we give you lots of money so that you can play for us." They'll probably give him $14 to $17 million a season easy. The yankees have enough superstars, they don't need anymore.

I know I may sound stupid here, but I think General Management ought to take a big chance by going after these two potential superstars and lock 'em up to large contracts. It's time to spend, with as much money as we have saved... Sheesh, start spending Peter.

Peter, we also don't need to trade Conine or Millar. Conine said that he wants to finish his career with the O's because he's had the most success here. Millar likes it in Baltimore.

Now my second thing is, major league baseball's CBA expires this season, I think that owners need to stress a few things at the owners meetings.


Address the situation with the Florida Marlins, their stadium issue, and their potential move.
Think about a salary cap so that we have a competitive balance in the major leagues.
Time to start thinking about a maximum contract just like what the NHL does.
Think about moving a team from the NL to the AL to make the Leagues even at 15 (Right now it's 14-AL 16-NL)
LET THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAVE A SAY AT THE MEETINGS
Address the potential of adding Instant Replay.
Steroid Testing. Keep it tough with 3 strikes and yer outta there.


Now what do you all think?

Do you think that the general public should have a say at the Meetings? You know, let them know that we need some changes to the MLB's system of ethics and policy?

Francoeurstein
05-29-2006, 02:14 PM
I say go for Willis. I know this has been said before, but Mazzone is going to LOVE the D-train. Marlins should just keep Cabrera as a franchise player.

Oriolesfan1810
05-29-2006, 05:29 PM
Problem is, I see him changing stripes from Marlin to Yankee...

Cause Brian Cashman is going to rush up and say, MR. WILLIS!!! COME WITH US!!! WE'LL TREAT YOU LIKE A KING!

Chelle
05-29-2006, 07:48 PM
I just don't think we could get Willis or Cabrera. I think every O's fan in the world has taken a look at that (and the fan of every other team)...what do we have to offer and Peter isn't going to spend.

As for instant reply. I hope to god we never get that. Ever. Ever. Ever.

Oriolesfan1810
05-29-2006, 08:08 PM
I agree Chelle, but we need to look at the big picture for next season.

Replay would do good for the MLB for CLOSE PLAYS ONLY.

The owners better be doing something during the CBA about a really hard salary cap. I mean make the yankees, red sox, and all them $120+ million payroll teams give up their marquee superstars so that we have a pretty competitive balance in the league. AND DO A MAX CONTRACT AS WELL like the NHL does (Max Contract for them is 6 years, $42 million)

none of this $252 million crap that Alex Rodriguez is enjoying right now.

My Idea


Hard Cap of $90 Million
A Permanant Luxury Tax (Percentage: 60%)
Salary Rollbacks: Any player earning over $14,000,000+ per year will be forced to accept a 24% rollback on their salary.
Maximum Contracts: No player may receive over $14,000,000 a season
3.83% hard raise or 5.29% soft raise of the cap per season.
Compulsory Spending Limit during the Free agent period and Winter Meetings


Tom Glavine says MLB don't need a salary cap.

That's grade-A 100% BULL COOKIES, Tommy boy!!

Don't you see that the New York Yankees take every marquee player off of the market before anyone can say "Hi, we have this contract, will you play for us?" It's time to freeze their spending and make them give up players.

The players and the owners need to get together and start discussing a cap and those other ideas I posted in the offseason and winter meetings.

Chelle
05-30-2006, 06:13 AM
I agree that players make to much money, but the Yankees haven't seem to won the WS with this wonderful All-Star team + A-Rod yet. The Marlins did win a WS with their tiny budget...I think it's less big buget, then good scouting and good managing. The Yankees have always had a big budget, but in the late 80s and early 90s, they stunk.

Look at the Red Sox, they are a big market team too and they only have one ring in 86 years. Again, it's a good farm system and good talent. The O's have been a mid-market team and we've been really good and really bad. Because our front office has been really good and really bad. LOL.

As for instant replay, it would slow the game down to much. Who decides if it's a close play? Would it be like football with 3 replays a team? The games would never end...we'd lose fans. Right now it's fair as it is...some days you get calls in your favor...some days you don't (like that ump who should be fired from the Angels series).

I think what the O's should be focused on now is how to get rid of some of the dead weight we have on the team and fire the team up again. We have some guys that need to go (Matos)...where can we dump them? Since we can't get anything/one for them.

Oriolesfan1810
05-30-2006, 04:00 PM
Chelle, your right. I think the public also needs a say in the MLB's Monopoly.

Chelle
05-30-2006, 05:23 PM
I agree...sadly as long as our Buddy Bud is in charge, I don't think that will ever happen.

Mr. Boh
05-30-2006, 06:04 PM
Willis would be a fine addition, but the Old Man would probably nix any deal that Flanny could come up with. Again, his example of not letting the baseball people make the deal, heck Pete why not give Fat Sydney another chance!

Chelle
05-30-2006, 06:43 PM
Have to give them credit for getting C-Pat though. After tonights HR...I'm loving him a little more.

Oriolesfan1810
05-30-2006, 07:55 PM
Angelos is so GD stubborn, he needs to stop getting old talent and pick up some fresh talent!!!!