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soberdennis
05-20-2006, 09:53 PM
What was the official final score of the last game the Washington Senators played at RFK Stadium? Who was the opponent?

flash143817
05-20-2006, 10:07 PM
Didn't Hondo hit the last HR there before last year?

soberdennis
05-20-2006, 10:13 PM
That I don't remember. But it actually has nothing to do with the question because of how the final score came to be.

KCGHOST
05-20-2006, 11:48 PM
The official score was a 9-0 forfeit to the Yankees. With 2 out in the top of the ninth fans poured out onto the field.

soberdennis
05-20-2006, 11:56 PM
The official score was a 9-0 forfeit to the Yankees. With 2 out in the top of the ninth fans poured out onto the field.
That is correct. The Senators were actually ahead, I believe 3-2, when it happened. The players' records counted, so if Hondo hit a homer it counted but didn't matter.

brooklyndodger14
05-21-2006, 08:04 AM
[FONT="Courier New"]New York Yankees 5, Washington Senators 7
DayGame Played on Thursday, September 30, 1971 (N) at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium

NY A 2 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 - 5 9 5
WAS A 0 1 0 0 0 4 0 2 x - 7 11 0
Game forfeited to NY .
BATTING[FONT="Courier New"]

NY Yankees AB R H RBI BB SO PO A
Murcer cf 4 1 1 2 1 0 1 0
Clarke 2b 4 0 0 0 0 0 3 2
Torres rf 4 1 2 1 0 0 3 0
White lf 3 2 2 1 1 1 2 1
Ellis 1b 3 0 2 1 0 0 7 0
Munson c 4 0 2 0 0 2 5 1
Hansen 3b 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 2
Baker ss 2 1 0 0 1 1 3 4
Michael ph,ss 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Kekich p 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Aker p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Alou ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Totals 32 5 9 5 3 5 24 12

FIELDING -
DP: 3. Hansen-Clarke-Ellis, Baker-Clarke-Ellis, Baker-Ellis.
E: Hansen (8), Baker 2 (8), Michael (20), Aker (3).
BATTING -
2B: White (22,off Bosman).
HR: Torres (2,1st inning off Bosman 0 on 2 out); Murcer (25,2nd inning off
Bosman 1 on 2 out); White (19,5th inning off Bosman 0 on 2 out).
SH: Kekich (8,off Bosman).
HBP: Ellis (6,by Bosman).
Team LOB: 6.

BASERUNNING -
CS: Torres (1,2nd base by Bosman/Billings).

Washington Senators AB R H RBI BB SO PO A
Maddox cf 4 0 1 2 0 0 4 0
Harrah ss 4 0 1 0 0 0 1 1
Howard 1b 3 1 1 1 1 0 6 2
Grzenda p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
Billings c 4 1 3 0 0 0 6 1
Burroughs lf 4 1 1 0 0 0 1 0
Nelson 3b 4 3 2 0 0 1 0 2
Unser rf 4 0 0 1 0 1 1 0
Ragland 2b 4 1 1 0 0 1 3 5
Bosman p 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1
Casanova ph 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
Pina p 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
Mincher ph 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
Lindblad p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
McCraw ph,1b 1 0 1 1 0 0 2 0
Totals 33 7 11 5 3 3 26 14
FIELDING -
DP: 1. Harrah-Ragland-Howard.
BATTING -
2B: Maddox (8,off Aker).
HR: Howard (26,6th inning off Kekich 0 on 0 out).
SF: Maddox (2,off Aker).
IBB: Mincher (7,by Aker).
Team LOB: 6.
BASERUNNING -
SB: Nelson (17,2nd base off Aker/Munson).
CS: McCraw (3,2nd base by Aker/Munson).
PITCHINGNew York Yankees IP H R ER BB SO HR
Kekich 5 7 4 3 2 1 1
Aker 3 4 3 1 1 2 0
Totals 8 11 7 4 3 3 1
Washington Senators IP H R ER BB SO HR
Bosman 5 8 5 5 2 3 3
Pina 1 0 0 0 1 1 0
Lindblad 2 1 0 0 0 1 0
Grzenda 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 0
Totals 8.2 9 5 5 3 5 3
Kekich faced 3 batters in the 6th inning
HBP: Bosman (5,Ellis).
IBB: Aker (9,Mincher).
Umpires: Jim Odom, Jake O'Donnell, Jim Honochick, Lou DiMuro
Time of Game: 2:38 Attendance: 14460
Starting Lineups:

New York Yankees Washington Senators
1. Murcer cf Maddox cf
2. Clarke 2b Harrah ss
3. Torres rf Howard 1b
4. White lf Billings c
5. Ellis 1b Burroughs lf
6. Munson c Nelson 3b
7. Hansen 3b Unser rf
8. Baker ss Ragland 2b
9. Kekich p Bosman p

YANKEES 1ST: Murcer made an out to center; Clarke grounded out
(second to first); Torres homered; White doubled to left; Ellis
singled to left [White scored]; Munson struck out; 2 R, 3 H, 0
E, 1 LOB. Yankees 2, Senators 0.

SENATORS 1ST: Maddox grounded out (shortstop to first); Harrah
singled to shortstop; Howard walked [Harrah to second]; Billings
grounded into a double play (third to second to first) [Howard
out at second]; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Yankees 2, Senators 0.

YANKEES 2ND: Hansen struck out; Baker walked; Kekich out on a
sacrifice bunt (pitcher to second) [Baker to second]; Murcer
homered [Baker scored]; Clarke grounded out (second to first); 2
R, 1 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Yankees 4, Senators 0.

SENATORS 2ND: Burroughs popped to shortstop; Nelson singled to
left; Unser reached on a fielder's choice [Nelson to second
(error by Baker; assist by Kekich)]; Ragland reached on an error
by Baker [Nelson scored (unearned), Unser to second, Ragland to
first]; Bosman grounded into a double play (shortstop to second
to first) [Ragland out at second]; 1 R, 1 H, 2 E, 1 LOB.
Yankees 4, Senators 1.

YANKEES 3RD: Torres singled to second; Torres was caught
stealing second (catcher to shortstop); White walked; Ellis was
hit by a pitch [White to second]; Munson struck out; Hansen made
an out to center; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 2 LOB. Yankees 4, Senators 1.

SENATORS 3RD: Maddox made an out to center; Harrah popped to
first in foul territory; Howard popped to shortstop; 0 R, 0 H, 0
E, 0 LOB. Yankees 4, Senators 1.

YANKEES 4TH: Baker grounded out (second to first); Kekich made
an out to right; Murcer grounded out (first to pitcher); 0 R, 0
H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Yankees 4, Senators 1.

SENATORS 4TH: Billings singled to left; Burroughs made an out to
left; Nelson was called out on strikes; Unser made an out to
right; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Yankees 4, Senators 1.

YANKEES 5TH: Clarke grounded out (second to first); Torres
popped to catcher in foul territory; White homered; Ellis
singled to left; Munson singled to center [Ellis to second];
Hansen forced Munson (third to second); 1 R, 3 H, 0 E, 2 LOB.
Yankees 5, Senators 1.

SENATORS 5TH: Ragland singled to center; CASANOVA BATTED FOR
BOSMAN; Casanova walked [Ragland to second]; Maddox made an out
to right; Harrah grounded into a double play (shortstop to
first) [Casanova out at second]; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Yankees
5, Senators 1.

YANKEES 6TH: PINA REPLACED CASANOVA (PITCHING); Baker struck
out; Kekich grounded out (first to pitcher); Murcer walked;
Clarke made an out to left; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Yankees 5,
Senators 1.

SENATORS 6TH: Howard homered; Billings singled to right;
Burroughs singled to left [Billings to second]; AKER REPLACED
KEKICH (PITCHING); On a bunt Nelson singled to pitcher [Billings
scored (error by Aker), Burroughs to third]; Unser grounded out
(pitcher to first) [Burroughs scored, Nelson to second]; Ragland
struck out; MINCHER BATTED FOR PINA; Mincher was walked
intentionally; Maddox doubled to left [Nelson scored, Mincher
out at home (left to shortstop to catcher)]; 4 R, 5 H, 1 E, 1
LOB. Yankees 5, Senators 5.

YANKEES 7TH: LINDBLAD REPLACED MINCHER (PITCHING); Torres made
an out to center; White was called out on strikes; Ellis made an
out to center; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Yankees 5, Senators 5.

SENATORS 7TH: Harrah made an out to left; Howard popped to
catcher in foul territory; Billings singled to left; Burroughs
grounded out (third to first); 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Yankees 5,
Senators 5.

YANKEES 8TH: On a bunt Munson singled to pitcher; Hansen
grounded into a double play (shortstop to second to first)
[Munson out at second]; MICHAEL BATTED FOR BAKER; Michael
grounded out (third to first); 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Yankees 5,
Senators 5.

SENATORS 8TH: MICHAEL STAYED IN GAME (PLAYING SS); Nelson
reached on an error by Michael [Nelson to first]; Nelson stole
second; Unser struck out; Ragland reached on an error by Hansen
[Ragland to first]; MCCRAW BATTED FOR LINDBLAD; McCraw singled
to right [Nelson scored (unearned), Ragland to third]; Maddox
hit a sacrifice fly to right [Ragland scored (unearned)]; McCraw
was caught stealing second (catcher to second); 2 R, 1 H, 2 E, 0
LOB. Yankees 5, Senators 7.

YANKEES 9TH: MCCRAW STAYED IN GAME (PLAYING 1B); GRZENDA
REPLACED HOWARD (PITCHING); ALOU BATTED FOR AKER; Alou grounded
out (pitcher to first); Murcer grounded out (pitcher to
first); Fans pour on field-game forfeited 9-0. Stats count-
no Winning Pitcher or Losing Pitcher; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB.
Yankees 5, Senators 7.

Final Totals R H E LOB
Yankees 5 9 5 6
Senators 7 11 0 6

(RETROSHEET site is at- http://www.retrosheet.org)

Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

JohnGelnarFan
05-21-2006, 01:44 PM
Thanks for the boxsxore BD14! Bobby Murcer led off for the Yankees because he had an outside chance at winning the batting title. Tony Oliva led him .337 to .331 at game time. That's where they both ended up. Hondo got a 5 minute standing ovation after his homer. He threw his batting helmet into the stands. The last pitcher,Joe Grzenda had his really only good year in 71'. I just listened to this game again about 3 weeks ago on CD. Great but sad memories.

soberdennis
05-21-2006, 05:30 PM
Thanks for the boxscore. It brought back some fond memories of my youth , remembering that Yankee club, no matter how mediocre they were. Houk had actually molded a decent team that the year before finished second to the Orioles and had the , I believe, fifth best record in baseball at 90-72. I remember many of those Yankees, Murcer, Munson, and White in particular helped the team towards the great team later in the decade, even though Murcer was gone by then. They had a bullpen by committee of Jack Aker, Steve Hamilton, and Lindy McDaniel who got the job done more than adequately until Lyle came the following year.
Those Senators bring back memories too.
Does anyone remember what Mike Kekich is most famous for?

yanks0714
05-21-2006, 06:10 PM
Does anyone remember what Mike Kekich is most famous for?

Swapping {trading} wives and families with teammate Fritz Peterson.

Yankwood
05-21-2006, 06:11 PM
Mike Kekich is best remembered for swapping wives and families with Fritz Peterson. Peterson's wife later regretted the move and wanted to get back with Fritz, however Kekich's wife and Peterson got married. Kekich and the original Mrs. Peterson split before too long.

Peterson actually had a string of really 5 pretty good seasons from the late 60's to the early 70's.

JohnGelnarFan
05-22-2006, 12:32 PM
Roy White had a few surprisingly good power seasons and was a good RBI man. He's the smallest cleanup hitter that I can remember. They just were'nt very deep on the bench in the late 60's-early 70's. Stottlemyre and Peterson were a productive and well respected pair in those days. Stan Bahnsen had a few good years and the bullpen was usually very reliable. The Peterson-Kekich thing was pretty shocking. The papers didn't get into players personal lives nearly as much as they do now.






Thanks for the boxscore. It brought back some fond memories of my youth , remembering that Yankee club, no matter how mediocre they were. Houk had actually molded a decent team that the year before finished second to the Orioles and had the , I believe, fifth best record in baseball at 90-72. I remember many of those Yankees, Murcer, Munson, and White in particular helped the team towards the great team later in the decade, even though Murcer was gone by then. They had a bullpen by committee of Jack Aker, Steve Hamilton, and Lindy McDaniel who got the job done more than adequately until Lyle came the following year.
Those Senators bring back memories too.
Does anyone remember what Mike Kekich is most famous for?

Aa3rt
05-22-2006, 02:39 PM
Joe Grzenda was the pitcher for the Senators on the mound, ready to pitch to the Yankees' Horace Clarke, when the fans stormed the field and the game was forfeited to the Yankees. :mad: :grouchy :mad:

Grezenda held on to that ball and kept it in a dresser drawer at his home in Gouldsboro, PA. Here's a link to a GREAT story about Joe Grzenda, and Washington baseball, that appeared in the Washington Post on October 24, 2004:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59629-2004Oct24.html

This story has a happy ending-Joe Grzenda was invited to the Washington Nationals Opening Day in April 2005. The ball he held on to that night in September of 1971, 35 years ago now, is safely enshrined in the Baseball Hall Of Fame in Cooperstown.

soberdennis
05-22-2006, 03:14 PM
Roy White was a fair outfielder with good speed. he often finished second on the team in stolen bases behind Horace Clarke and then Mickey Rivers. He was the last link to the teams of the late 60's and the only one to win a WS ring in 77 and 78.
Peterson won 20 games in, I believe, 1970 when the Yanks finished second with 90 wins. His wife-swap with Kekich made big headlines in the press and led to both of their exits from NY. I'll never forget the trade with Cleveland. Peterson, Kekich, John Ellis, and Rusty Torrez went to the Indians and we got Chris Chambliss and Dick Tidrow. John Sterlings radio call in show that night was filled with calls from angry fans who thought the Yanks made a big mistake trading 2 of their top pitchers and two top prospects for two players who had shown little in Cleveland. But it turned into one of the best trades Gabe Paul ever made. And he made some great ones for the Yanks.
Stottlemyre, Peterson, Bahnsen, and Kekich made a decent starting rotation. Aker, McDaniel, and Hamilton were good out of the bullpen. But their position players for the most part were subpar. Only when Gabe pulled the trade winds our way did we get the position players we needed to contend- Pinella, Randolph, Chambliss, Nettles, along with pitchers Lyle and Tidrow were parts of some of the greatest trades in Yankee history. They became the bulk of the championship run along with farm products like Munson, White, and Guidry.
This formula of a farm base and key trades have been the formula the Yanks have used for 80 years to build the greatest dynasty in sports.