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racosun
05-12-2006, 11:21 AM
There was a blurb in the rumors section of FoxSports.com regarding the injury to the Yankees Hideki Matsui, and possible replacements for him in New York's outfield. Two of the names thrown out there for consideration were those of Craig Monroe and Dmitri Young.

Although Da Meat Hook is in the best shape of perhaps his entire career, he's just coming off of the DL for a quad injury. Even without the extra pounds he's lost, Dmitri cannot be accused of being very fast, and given his age and decline in production, one would have to figure he'd command less on the trade market. That brings me to Craig Monroe. He's pretty young, is an improving defensive outfielder, and can hit pretty darn good at times.

That being said, whom do you guys see as possible trade candidates on the Yankees that can be exchanged for one of those guys? Is Craig Monroe good enough to bring back Carl Pavano in return? Is Pavano worth giving up our starting LF for? He's got a high salary, and has been injury prone and just plain ineffective in recent years. Plus, who would be moved out of the rotation if Pavano came to Detroit? Everybody's pitching good right now.

Knick9
05-12-2006, 02:48 PM
Go ahead and give the Yankees Dimitri Young. Giving them Monroe would be alot more regretable.

tigers527
05-12-2006, 03:13 PM
There was a blurb in the rumors section of FoxSports.com regarding the injury to the Yankees Hideki Matsui, and possible replacements for him in New York's outfield. Two of the names thrown out there for consideration were those of Craig Monroe and Dmitri Young.

That being said, whom do you guys see as possible trade candidates on the Yankees that can be exchanged for one of those guys? Is Craig Monroe good enough to bring back Carl Pavano in return? Is Pavano worth giving up our starting LF for? He's got a high salary, and has been injury prone and just plain ineffective in recent years. Plus, who would be moved out of the rotation if Pavano came to Detroit? Everybody's pitching good right now.

Although, it would make my patent pending clutchometer next to useless, I would not mind seeing Monroe gone. We have a perfect Monroe clone in, Marcus Thames if we want to go that way (personally in his limited time Thames has clutched up a little more then Monroe IMO). That said Thames for Crosby would work for me.

If it has to be Monroe and/or Young I say both....for Giambi and Crosby. We gain in DH they gain in OF. Although, on the occaisions where Crosby starts (as I see him as defensive replacement/ 4th OF) our OF defense would be markedly improved. He's dang fast.

riverfrontier
05-12-2006, 03:30 PM
With whom do we replace Monroe? Marcus Thames is playing well right now as a reserve, but in the past the guy just never got on base. Monroe may be overpowered by elite pitching, but he'll he'll beat up on the other teams' 3-4-5 starters, which is over half the league, really. I don't know. Pavano is a guy whose marquee value rests on the one good year he had with the Marlins. Suspect, in my book. Maybe Octavio Dotel? Again, I don't know. Like you said, who gives up a spot in the rotation? Robertson? Maroth? We have three lefties who are rocking it right now. We don't really have any salary dumps to ship to the Yankees for essentially doing them a favor, unless you consider Dmitri in that category, who, by the way, may be needed at 1b if Shelton doesn't break out of his slump soon.

tigers527
05-12-2006, 05:35 PM
Riverfront? whom are you talking (posting) to? With my trade you'd have the platoon OF of Crosby, Thames, Granderson, and Ordonez. The OF of Crosby CF, Granderson LF, and Ordonez RF would actually make our OF plus. I can't remember our last plus defensive outfield? (was Gary Petis involved?)...Lately, Plus OFs seem to win WS regardless of their offensive stats?

riverfrontier
05-12-2006, 06:17 PM
I was posting to racosun's original post about Monroe. I sometimes start a post, work on another screen, and then come back and finish my post. I hadn't seen your post yet when I posted. Post script: Post cards make excellent wallpaper.

riverfrontier
05-12-2006, 06:24 PM
Ok, that was kinda tongue-in-cheek. I'm not really sure how good or bad the outfield is defensively because I don't get to 'watch' the games, but rather follow them on mlb.com game-tracker. I'm not that dissatisfied with the outfield, and I don't think Thames is, overall, a better player than Monroe. Of course I'm eating humble pie now, as he just cracked a homer against the Indians. But I wouldn't put Crosby in our outfield over Monroe. He's fast, yes, but I've heard white men can't jump, so there would be a bit of trepidation on my part.;)

racosun
05-12-2006, 07:08 PM
Update: Dmitri Young is most likely heading back to the DL. Oh yeah, and Craig Monroe smashed a go-ahead two-run homer just after Cleveland tied it up at two runs apiece. Monroe certainly has power, that's undisputable. For the Yankees, he'd be an ideal replacement for Matsui, who could be out for the rest of the season, and at least three months minimum. Instead of MLB help, which we really don't seem to need that much at the moment, perhaps we could take a couple of prospects for Monroe if the Yanks really want him bad enough. Although our farm system has really improved under DD's watch, you can never have too many prospects down there.

Paulmcall
05-16-2006, 12:56 PM
The Tigers are going good now so I don't see them doing ANYTHING to mess with the chemistry. :gt

riverfrontier
05-16-2006, 02:59 PM
maybe they're doing too well, but then again so are the white sox. i know some heartbreaks are coming, they're bound to, but i think we'll finish no worse than a close third, even if we don't get any breaks. we have, player for player, a team at least as good as cleveland. sure, we're just having drinks with them now, but we'll soon be telling them to go home and get their shinebox.