Worst D in MLB!!!

[d_umengan]

Jays lead the majors in errors...

i know its not just our middle infielders but cmon man... i would be able to overlook all of adam's fielding errors had he been swinging a decent stick.. but when u can't get 1 of 2 things right in a baseball game.. time to make some changes!

[Chris from NY]

Other than the standard errors that all teams make and a higher number of errors from the middle infield, alot there's been a couple of bad luck type plays that have inflated that number of errors by a little bit. I don't think that's an excuse though, I personally take it as fact.

[Roy31]

Russ Adams is a bum and Hill has quite a few errors those 2 alone probably account for half of our errors.

[starkeeper]

2005 Toronto Blue Jays 2B 22 19 177.2 111 33 77 1 15 --- --- --- 5.57 .991
2005 Toronto Blue Jays 3B 35 32 286.2 99 21 73 5 8 --- --- --- 2.95 .949
2005 Toronto Blue Jays SS 16 15 121.0 66 18 48 0 9 --- --- --- 4.91 1.000
2006 Toronto Blue Jays 2B 41 41 358.0 204 71 130 3 39 --- --- --- 5.05 .985

Career Totals 114 107 943.1 480 143 328 9 71 --- --- --- 4.49 .981


Aaron Hill's defensive stats. 41 Games, 3 errors, .985 FPCT.

I really don't think that he is much of a defensive liability.
His hitting this year is another story, but defensively he is far more than adequate.

[Roy31]

Hill's hitting is starting to come around, Adams made his 10th error today god it was a pathetic throw too.

[Chris from NY]

Adams shaould have benn turned into a second baseman at some point in the minors. The only reason he wasn't, I think, is because they had second secured with Hudson and they were in desperate need of a shortstop at the big-league level.

[ricky151]

russ adams cant hit, his range stinks and he makes many errors.
Aron hill hits better fields better. Why were we playing adams again. They chose hill to move to second because he was such a good fielder he could do it. If they had asked adams it would have been blooper city over there.
I expect adams to be traded or rot in the minors.

[ricky151]

you guys have to look at the range. For example ecstien had a record low in errors by giving up less than a handfull for a ss. You cant tell me he is a better defensive ss than the likes of, jeter, vizquel, rollins, reyes, ect ect ect.

you have to look at how the range of a ss is over the errors. Sadly russ adams has poor range and makes a lot of errors. A very bad combination if you ask me

[Outta Here]

It's not lookin good if the Royals hav less errors than u :eek:

[starkeeper]

Adam's range will be less challenged at 2nd base.

He would definitley be an upgrade from that "Figgy" guy. I don't see much of an upside at this point with him.

I wonder who they will pin the error on with that infield fly that they all missed in Baltimore tonight.

Someone has to take charge in that situation.

[ricky151]

do you guys still think that russ adams is better than lugo,, i hope not because you guys would be the worst gms im baseball if you did

[ricky151]

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Jays lead the majors in errors...

i know its not just our middle infielders but cmon man... i would be able to overlook all of adam's fielding errors had he been swinging a decent stick.. but when u can't get 1 of 2 things right in a baseball game.. time to make some changes!


russ adams has been swingin a decent stick,, since when was a 229 average with almost no power a decent stick. wow i cant beleive this forum

[Reed Johnson]

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Jays lead the majors in errors...

i know its not just our middle infielders but cmon man... i would be able to overlook all of adam's fielding errors had he been swinging a decent stick.. but when u can't get 1 of 2 things right in a baseball game.. time to make some changes!


russ adams has been swingin a decent stick,, since when was a 229 average with almost no power a decent stick. wow i cant beleive this forum

Where did d_umengan say Russ Adam;s was swinging a decent stick?!?!?! He said that Adams HASN'T been swinging a decent stick and this post was made quite a while ago to! Get your head on straight.

[Big_Mac]

you guys have to look at the range. For example ecstien had a record low in errors by giving up less than a handfull for a ss. You cant tell me he is a better defensive ss than the likes of, jeter, vizquel, rollins, reyes, ect ect ect.


actully, eckstien led the league in range factor a couple years back (i got the book)

[Chris from NY]

do you guys still think that russ adams is better than lugo,, i hope not because you guys would be the worst gms im baseball if you did
I, for one interviewed for the General Manager spot at one time. They said they would have hired me but they said JP had a more esthetic quality to him. :rolleyes:

[albertpujols]

Russ Adams is a bum and Hill has quite a few errors those 2 alone probably account for half of our errors.

Russ Adams is playing horrible on defence. I remember one game he served up two errors. Right after that game- sent down.

[Defense Counts!]

Errors aren't the whole story on defense, but I agree that Hill and Adams are a liability in the field. The Jays lost a lot when Orlando was traded. Unfortunately, defense always gets overlooked (hence my moniker!).

[Chris from NY]

When you talk about Aaron Hill you talk about a guy who, in only his first full season, has seen significant time at 3 different infield positions. He's clearly not at the calibre of Orlando Hudson, but he's a better hitter than Hudson and I trust him to play day in and day out in the infield.

[Big_Mac]

When you talk about Aaron Hill you talk about a guy who, in only his first full season, has seen significant time at 3 different infield positions. He's clearly not at the calibre of Orlando Hudson, but he's a better hitter than Hudson and I trust him to play day in and day out in the infield.

i think hill is very underrated defensivly. he is judged by everyone at second by hudson standards and frankly, there isn't a 2B in baseball better then hudson on defense, imo. hill has good range, nice arm and like you said chris, played 3 infield position and played them well.