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racosun
05-05-2006, 05:04 PM
I saw a quick little blurb on SportsCenter about the Pirates today. The NBA's Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban said he could build a winner out of the Pirates if he owned the team. I didn't see the whole thing, anyone else? Cuban basically bought the Mavericks into an annual contender, and would do the same if he owned a baseball franchise as well. Being a small-market team, it would be nice to see a big-spending owner doing whatever it takes to win, instead of pulling out so much hair over financial matters.

brewcrew82
05-05-2006, 11:31 PM
Did he mention any interest in buying a ballclub?

SDvdk5
05-05-2006, 11:51 PM
Yeah, he's wanted to since last year, but McClatchy refuses to sell to him . . .

Stephen1164
05-06-2006, 09:27 AM
According to Cuban the pirates are making 10 to 15 million a year so why would they want to sell the club

brewcrew82
05-07-2006, 04:00 AM
Yeah, he's wanted to since last year, but McClatchy refuses to sell to him . . .

He needs to make an offer "he can't refuse". ;)

efin98
05-07-2006, 09:29 AM
Too bad McClatchy can't sell half the team to Cuban, that way he can make a large profit and still have the team.

Seems like a win-win situation there...

JohnGelnarFan
05-07-2006, 05:30 PM
I was living in Dallas when Cuban bought the horrible Mavericks and you've seen what he did for that team and city. I'm sure that he could make the Pirates a successful franchise. He's like a kid when it comes to sports. I remember a TV interview that included a tour of his house. He has one huge room that is just a wiffle ball field for he and his friends! He also used to appear,as himself,on "Walker,Texas Ranger" and was Walker's best man at his wedding,which was held at Cuban's real house. He's definitely one of a kind!

racosun
05-08-2006, 01:25 AM
Yeah, he's wanted to since last year, but McClatchy refuses to sell to him . . .

That's too bad. Any team would be lucky to have Mark Cuban as the owner. He hates failure, and will do whatever it takes to win. I can tell you one thing, he'd give ol' King George a run for his money on all the top FA's. The Pirates would become annual contenders with Cuban at the helm. The people of the city and area should pressure the current owner to sell, if that process isn't already in order.

SDvdk5
05-08-2006, 09:35 AM
The people of the city and area should pressure the current owner to sell, if that process isn't already in order.

I've actually been wanting to do that. Anyone can refer to my thread about ousting McClatchy.

The bottomline is, yes there is such a thing as rebuilding, but I think 14 years is a little past the grace period.

Bucco Fanatic
05-08-2006, 10:04 AM
pirates owner is not willing to spend money..cuban is. PERIOD.

racosun
05-10-2006, 08:44 AM
I wonder how the other MLB owners would feel about having Mark Cuban in the league?

He's prone to telling it like it is and being very open and public about any beefs he has with league management, at least in the NBA. He's annually fined for being so outspoken on matters the league would rather keep in-house. For fans, he's awesome. He is still more of a fan himself than an owner. He's courtside for every game, jumping and cheering. He knows all of his players personally, and is very involved in the construction of team rosters and image. He cares, just like we do. For owners, he could be a thorn in their side. Cuban might find something he doesn't like, and he won't be silent about it.

Knick9
05-10-2006, 01:42 PM
I wonder how the other MLB owners would feel about having Mark Cuban in the league?

He's prone to telling it like it is and being very open and public about any beefs he has with league management, at least in the NBA. He's annually fined for being so outspoken on matters the league would rather keep in-house. For fans, he's awesome. He is still more of a fan himself than an owner. He's courtside for every game, jumping and cheering. He knows all of his players personally, and is very involved in the construction of team rosters and image. He cares, just like we do. For owners, he could be a thorn in their side. Cuban might find something he doesn't like, and he won't be silent about it.

That's why I like Cuban! :clapping

Since he probably won't get the Pirates anytime soon, how about an expansion franchise for him to own? :atthepc

racosun
05-10-2006, 02:30 PM
Cuban would certainly be a good owner for any team, expansion or not. It's really too bad he didn't make a bid for the Expos/Nationals. Maybe Jeffrey Loria would be willing to sell the Marlins to him. I wish Pizza Mike Illitch would sell the Tigers to him. We'd have a 50-year lock on the AL Central, with a Yankee-esque payroll to make sure it stays that way. I think what bothers Cuban the most about MLB is that the small-market teams like the Royals and Pirates are content to take the 10-15 million they get from the Yankees and pocket it. He'd like to see that money re-invested into the payroll to get the team into contention, like the revenue-sharing program was intended for. There definitely needs to be some revenue-sharing reforms for baseball, and Mark Cuban may help accomplish that whether he's an owner or not. The collective bargaining agreement is set to expire fairly soon, so I'm sure we'll have to suffer through another strike before things change for the better.

racosun
05-10-2006, 06:59 PM
And right on cue, Yahoo! Sports has an article about Mark Cuban and his latest fines:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-mavericks-cubanfined&prov=ap&type=lgns

tigers527
05-10-2006, 07:28 PM
I wonder how the other MLB owners would feel about having Mark Cuban in the league?

He's prone to telling it like it is and being very open and public about any beefs he has with league management, at least in the NBA. He's annually fined for being so outspoken on matters the league would rather keep in-house. For fans, he's awesome. He is still more of a fan himself than an owner. He's courtside for every game, jumping and cheering. He knows all of his players personally, and is very involved in the construction of team rosters and image. He cares, just like we do. For owners, he could be a thorn in their side. Cuban might find something he doesn't like, and he won't be silent about it.

I am not at the bottom of the thread yet...So, if this has already been mentioned mia culpa. You heard Cuban was fined $200,000 by the NBA for going on the court, and criticizing officials. Imagine baseball where the umps have an influence on every pitch.....somebody in MLB will get rich just by fining Cuban alone.

racosun
05-10-2006, 10:18 PM
I am not at the bottom of the thread yet...So, if this has already been mentioned mia culpa. You heard Cuban was fined $200,000 by the NBA for going on the court, and criticizing officials. Imagine baseball where the umps have an influence on every pitch.....somebody in MLB will get rich just by fining Cuban alone.

Mark Cuban doesn't mind paying league fines if it's for saying what he believes in. As he said in an e-mail sent to the AP: "Change in any business never comes cheaply." I'm also under the impression that he matches whatever fines are levied upon him and donates that to charity. He's got billions, and he isn't afraid to use it.