View Full Version : Who'd Like To See Triple Headers Come Back??
Go Bravos!!!#1
04-22-2006, 05:40 PM
I was just thinking about this topic. I love doubleheaders, and I know they've had tripleheaders in the past , so I'd love it ,if they brought them back. Though I highly doubt that the MLB players association would go for it, but what do you all think ????? Would you all like to see tripleheaders???
1doug
04-22-2006, 05:56 PM
I voted no, but I would like to see more DH's played.
RuthMayBond
04-22-2006, 06:43 PM
I was just thinking about this topic. I love doubleheaders, and I know they've had tripleheaders in the pastYou're talking about over eighty-five years ago :lookitup
Baseball Guru
04-22-2006, 06:50 PM
I voted no, but I would like to see more DH's played.
Agreed!
I would like to see scheduled DH played:)
Go Bravos!!!#1
04-22-2006, 06:52 PM
It could still be done.
Game 1 - Noon to 3
Game 2 - 4 - 7
Game 3 - 8 - 11
Gashouse6
04-22-2006, 07:10 PM
The players would be very tired. I think they should still have tripple headers once or twice a year.
BoofBonser26
04-22-2006, 07:13 PM
Too much of a good thing. But I would like to see more DHs.
Aaaagh! That sounded like the other DH! No! No! Nooooo...
Honus Wagner Rules
04-22-2006, 07:31 PM
It could still be done.
Game 1 - Noon to 3
Game 2 - 4 - 7
Game 3 - 8 - 11
Thee hours games in the American League? :laugh
Go Bravos!!!#1
04-22-2006, 07:39 PM
Thee hours games in the American League? :laugh
Ha, you're right, I've got that crazy NL mind!!!:D :laugh
BoofBonser26
04-22-2006, 07:40 PM
Oooh! The first game could feature the AL Brewers against the AL Yankees, the second game an interleague AL Brewers against the NL Braves, and the nightcap the NL Brewers against the NL Braves. :D
Erik Bedard
04-22-2006, 07:44 PM
It could still be done.
Game 1 - Noon to 3
Game 2 - 4 - 7
Game 3 - 8 - 11
Not with the O's and Indians. Then you'd have to have something more like:
Game 1 - 10 AM to 2:30 PM immediately followed by
Game 2 - 2:45 PM to 7:15 PM immediately followed by
Game 3 - 7:30 PM to MIDNIGHT :eek:
BoofBonser26
04-22-2006, 07:47 PM
Not with the O's and Indians. Then you'd have to have something more like:
Game 1 - 10 AM to 2:30 PM immediately followed by
Game 2 - 2:45 PM to 7:15 PM immediately followed by
Game 3 - 7:30 PM to MIDNIGHT :eek:
And if that last game goes to extra innings, watch out! :p
Erik Bedard
04-22-2006, 07:50 PM
And if that last game goes to extra innings, watch out! :p
They might top 20 runs apiece :eek: :eek:
Go Bravos!!!#1
04-22-2006, 08:00 PM
Uh Oh how about Rain Delays along with extra innings. Oooooh
BoofBonser26
04-22-2006, 08:06 PM
So when was the last TH played, what teams, ? :confused:
Astro
04-22-2006, 08:10 PM
A triple header would just destroy a bullpen
Go Bravos!!!#1
04-22-2006, 08:13 PM
So when was the last TH played, what teams, ? :confused:
This should suffice...
Link (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/excerpts/records_registry2.stm)
Mattingly
04-22-2006, 08:32 PM
It could still be done.
Game 1 - Noon to 3
Game 2 - 4 - 7
Game 3 - 8 - 11
I can see the same players being used in Games 1 and 3, but there's no way that someone will play two consecutive games.
Also, I think you have your times off. They may need 2 hours rest between games, especially to insure sufficient rest and allowing for extra innings. Given a 12pm start, it would likely be:
Game 1: 12pm-3pm
Game 2: 5pm-8pm
Game 3: 10pm-1am
Now then, which manager, coaches, umpires and most importantly--*FANS*--are going to sit through a total of 13 hours of baseball? Me thinks they'd need to put cots or tents out in the stands somewhere so people could catch a few quick winks.
I don't see it happening, especially since days off are generally used for double headers, thus avoiding triple headers. Now if a double header were itself rained out (especially a total of 3 games in 2 days), then I could imagine that unless a team's W-L record were to decide whether or not they'd either win the division or Wild Card, it would simply not be played. Not every single team plays 162 games every season, so games simply not being made up would likely be the viable alternative.
Go Bravos!!!#1
04-22-2006, 08:50 PM
I think you'd see alot more offensive games than 2-1 defensive games. Due to tired pitching and fielders.
KingJ
04-22-2006, 08:51 PM
Didn't Walter Johnson pitch an entire triple header once? I believe he got a win in all three games, too.
geezer
04-22-2006, 09:14 PM
You nuts, its doubleheaders and are tough for players to play, imagine tripleheaders, that's barbaric.
Williamsburg2599
04-22-2006, 09:25 PM
It be murder on the pitchers these days. The things about the TH is that they had starters who could go 10-12 innings atleast.Now-a-days,They could use up to 9 pitchers!ouch.I think the postion players could survive it, but they probabily have to take 2-3 days off after it which makes you wonder why they would do it in the first place.hmmmm.
BristolBoy
04-23-2006, 06:06 AM
In an ideal world, we wouldn't be talking about tripleheaders - games would just follow on from one another to create 24/7 baseball. However, since that's not going to happen anywhere except in my head, tripleheaders aren't going to happen.
However, this brings me neatly back to a point I'd like to argue in a short manner: schedule doubleheaders early in the season, make the All-Star break a week long and play the World Baseball Classic in that 7 days.
RuthMayBond
04-23-2006, 06:26 AM
Didn't Walter Johnson pitch an entire triple header once? I believe he got a win in all three games, too.Where did you hear this?
Bob Hannah
04-23-2006, 06:45 AM
Didn't Walter Johnson pitch an entire triple header once? I believe he got a win in all three games, too.
You may be thinking of this: early in his career Johnson pitched in three consecutive starts against the Yankees/Highlanders and won them all. I'm certain it was it occurred over a four day span and the the victories were all shutouts.
Here's a link. Read the Sept. 7, 1908 entry. (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/J/Johnson_Walter.stm)
Mattingly
04-23-2006, 07:31 AM
Didn't Walter Johnson pitch an entire triple header once? I believe he got a win in all three games, too.
Had something like that happened, it likely would've been listed on the following website, which has countless players:
http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/J/Johnson_Walter.stm
Only "triples" and a "triple play" were found in the above link.
I'd sought this info using 3 search engines but couldn't find anything about this. The only closest thing I've ever heard of was when Old Hoss Radbourn (http://providencegrays.org/Old_Grays/Charles_Radbourn/charles_radbourn.html) pitched both games of a double header, and against two separate teams, also. From the link within this paragraph:
... He was suffering from rheumatism and "severe lameness" in his leg on May 30, but was still summoned out to pitch two complete games in a weird doubleheader: a morning game versus New York, and an afternoon game versus Philadelphia. He won both games and pitched a ten-inning victory the next day, for good measure....
SHOELESSJOE3
04-23-2006, 07:48 AM
With the length of todays game, you would have to bring a sleeping bag if you were going to a triple header. Even a double header would take forever. It's a whole different game today, way longer in length of time. Even into the 1960s DH's were played every Sunday.
You won't even see the DH come back on a regular basis for reasons other than time of games being to long. The players won't buy it and the owner won't, two games for the price of one, not a chance.
Mattingly
04-23-2006, 08:02 AM
With the length of todays game, you would have to bring a sleeping bag if you were going to a triple header. Even a double header would take forever. It's a whole different game today, way longer in length of time. Even into the 1960s DH's were played every Sunday.
You won't even see the DH come back on a regular basis for reasons other than time of games being to long. The players won't buy it and the owner won't, two games for the price of one, not a chance.
That and the cost to the fan. First, you'd have to give up an entire day to see a ballgame. I can understand loving the game, but given that it's on a weekend day, people could otherwise go shopping, take their kids out somewhere. Instead, they're at the game most of the day.
Would people get 3 games for the price of one? Would people be charged for each game? If so, then you'd have to clear out the stands, clean everything twice between games, then once at the end (or before the next game).
The guys in the concession stands wouldn't mind though. People's food and water they'd brought from home wouldn't last past the 1st game, so those overpriced peanuts, hot dogs and Cracker Jacks would certainly be costing a fortune. Can you imagine if they've got kids? Either a babysitter that whole time, or leaving them with family/friends, or bringing them there. That would be another whole experience and a half.
SHOELESSJOE3
04-23-2006, 08:37 AM
That and the cost to the fan. First, you'd have to give up an entire day to see a ballgame. I can understand loving the game, but given that it's on a weekend day, people could otherwise go shopping, take their kids out somewhere. Instead, they're at the game most of the day.
That was one of the points I tried to get across, even a DH would on average take 5 to 6 hours plus, thats a long time to be sitting at a ball park. I love the game but thats way too much time to give up on a Sunday afternoon. As a kid the minor league team in my town played a DH every Sunday, first game was 9 innings, second game was only 7 innings. That I could take, especially being a kid.
Mattingly
04-23-2006, 08:46 AM
That was one of the points I tried to get across, even a DH would on average take 5 to 6 hours plus, thats a long time to be sitting at a ball park. I love the game but thats way too much time to give up on a Sunday afternoon. As a kid the minor league team in my town played a DH every Sunday, first game was 9 innings, second game was only 7 innings. That I could take, especially being a kid.
I don't think the player's union would allow less than 7 innings for each game. Heck, I'd just wish someone would simply strikeout the side for some innings. Instead of going to full counts, bases loaded, 2 outs, just 1-2-3, yer out. 1-2-3, yer out. Would make things go by faster. Hey, you could always say, "I was at the ballpark and I saw the most incredible innings in a row you've ever seen". :D :p
For minor leaguers, I think they could bend the rules a bit. Which level of the minors was that? I'm glad you saw the game at an earlier age. Wish I would've. :o :(
For 5-6 hours, I'd figure in 6 hours for a DH for just playing time. The time between games is up between both teams' need for rest, as well as lessening this to get the next game in.
Then there's the networks. Does one cover the entire behemoth? Or would it be CBS for the first, Fox for the 2nd and ESPN for the 3rd? Or would they use the local broadcaster, or the team's station (WGN for the Chicago teams, TBS for the Braves, SNY for the Mets or YES for the Yanks)?
The whole thing sounds like a logistical nightmare. If anything, I'd rather play two games on Saturday and perhaps a game on a day off. Even that in of itself isn't a good idea, since nobody rests.
Then there's having to play your "B" team when the other team plays their "A" team. Will the "A" team be pooped after the 2nd game? Hopefully, you're not talking about playing multiple teams, since that's another nightmare, as it would require fans to be cleared out, to allow visiting fans to enter. The possibilities (and resulting nightmares) are endless. :eek:
SHOELESSJOE3
04-23-2006, 09:27 AM
I don't think the player's union would allow less than 7 innings for each game. Heck, I'd just wish someone would simply strikeout the side for some innings. Instead of going to full counts, bases loaded, 2 outs, just 1-2-3, yer out. 1-2-3, yer out. Would make things go by faster. Hey, you could always say, "I was at the ballpark and I saw the most incredible innings in a row you've ever seen". :D :p
For minor leaguers, I think they could bend the rules a bit. Which level of the minors was that? I'm glad you saw the game at an earlier age. Wish I would've. :o :(
I was not suggesting 7 inning games in MLB, only pointing that out in the minors. I don't know if thats still the practice in minor league DH's, I'm going way back, late 1950s to 1960s.
That was in the International League, Buffalo, Syracuse, Montreal, Toronto and some others.
Mattingly
04-23-2006, 09:56 AM
I was not suggesting 7 inning games in MLB, only pointing that out in the minors. I don't know if thats still the practice in minor league DH's, I'm going way back, late 1950s to 1960s.
That was in the International League, Buffalo, Syracuse, Montreal, Toronto and some others.
Yeah, I've got your drift. Just that at times, my brain outruns my fingers, and my keyboard is a bit turbo-charged right now. Either that or I just type quickly. :D
2Chance
04-23-2006, 07:40 PM
Speaking as a fan, that's too much of a good thing.
As for the players, that's inconceivable today. Many of them get a rest now if there is a day game following a night game. The "marquee" starters would probably only play one game, some other starters maybe two, but the lineups would be filled with bench players for at least one or two of the games. Even if we wanted to sit there all day to watch baseball, the games would not be the best quality.
Sunday doubleheaders used to be the norm, but they pretty much quit doing that in the 70s or 80s due to financial considerations. Why should the ball club get paid one admission price when they can get two? (And of course, the thing that followed was a day game followed by a night game....run you out of the stadium, then let you back in later. That fostered no good will. And it wouldn't work in the new 'multi-purpose' stadia that have restaurants, swimming pools and amusement park rides inside.)
I've only been to one doubleheader as an adult, and enjoyed that. But can you imagine taking kids to a place where they have to sit down for 5-8 hours? Oh, sure, "take them to the amusement park," you say! Not when I just spent $35 per ticket. I want to watch the game! Besides, that distraction only lasts for so long, and I NEVER want to hear one of them say "I'm Booorred" at a baseball game. That would be a heartbreaker.