silver slugger for arroyo?

[justice22]

he just hit his SECOND homer of the season!

[Ravenlord]

possibe...but he still has 30 more starts to make.

[Schaddy]

Arroyo is going to start paying Glendon Rusch on the side to pitch every time he does; Rusch makes him look like Babe Ruth :rolleyes:

[FlashGordon]

All I can say is, wow. I hope he keeps shining bright for you guys because there were more than a few Red Sox fans who (spoiled by their riches) seriously under-valued Bronson. I don't think he'll be chasing any home run records, but he is a solid all-around player and his pitching performance today shows it.

[KingJ]

Reds totally beat up the Sox in this deal. They didn't lose any power with Arroyo suddenly hitting HRs, they now have an actual #1/#2 type pitcher, Scott Hatteberg and Rich Aurilia get some more playing time, and they win more games. Reds are still a good bullpen away from the World Series, though.

[moebarguy]

They're also a good rotation away...let's be serious here people

[KingJ]

They're also a good rotation away...let's be serious here people


Starting Rotation Career ERAs:
1. Harang - 4.59
2. Arroyo - 4.53
3. Claussen - 4.68
4. Milton - 4.98
5. Williams - 4.23

It's not great, but considering how many runs the Reds offense scores, it's adequate for a 90 win-ish team.

[Francoeurstein]

I expect 4 homers 15 rbis and a silver slugger.

[moebarguy]

I don't think that Arroyo will continue pitching this well...I do like Aaron Harang though, but even so, their rotation and bullpen will hold them back from winning

[Ravenlord]

Starting Rotation Career ERAs:
1. Harang - 4.59
2. Arroyo - 4.53
3. Claussen - 4.68
4. Milton - 4.98
5. Williams - 4.23

It's not great, but considering how many runs the Reds offense scores, it's adequate for a 90 win-ish team.

ERA is not a real good indicator by itself.

Harang will be better than he was last year.

Arroyo will probably be better than he was last year. however if his K rate stays where it was last year, the Reds defense will catch up to him and his ERA will baloon to over 5.

Claussen seemed to fine the K pitch he'd been lacking at the end of last year. it'll be interesting to see if he carries it into this year. however he's still awfully reliant on Griffey and Dunn to catch flyballs, which isn't good.

Milton's lower half may be stronger, but i don't htink it matters much. he's changed his mechanics to scapular load and bend hard at the waste to compensate for not being able to drive as hard off the mound or bend his front knee do their degenerative condition.

Williams is crap. a BABIP lucky pitcher who's shoulder is held together by gum and rubber bands.

[efin98]

Arroyo will have to do better than two solo home runs to get the award

[KingJ]

Arroyo will have to do better than two solo home runs to get the award


Uh...you do realize that the pitchers that have won it in the past 3 seasons have only hit 2 HRs?

[efin98]

Uh...you do realize that the pitchers that have won it in the past 3 seasons have only hit 2 HRs?

It's only his second start of the year, he still has about 30-33 more left. He als only has 66 total plate appearances in his career and this is his first year hitting reguarly.

It's way too early to hand him the award. You can give it to him in August or September, but he hasn't earned it yet.

[Captain Cold Nose]

Quite frankly, I don't care if Arroyo homers every time he pitches. They need him to pitch like he did yesterday far more than they need him to go deep. They have plenty of power on that team, so they don't need his bat. The pitchers need to pitch well beyond April. Beyond the all star game would be nice for a change.
There are a few pitcher currently in the minors (remember Ryan Wagner?) who couldn't possibly be any worse than what the current bullpen is doing, so at least there are options down the road there.

[FlashGordon]

It's only his second start of the year, he still has about 30-33 more left. He als only has 66 total plate appearances in his career and this is his first year hitting reguarly.I suppose that depends by what you mean when you say "regularly". If you mean that this is the first year in the NL when he looks like he'll be making regular appearances as a starter, I suppose that is true. But don't forget that he did have 3 seasons in the Pirate's organization with 44 appearances over the first two seasons. I really don't know what the situation is in the minors for NL teams, so I can't say much about his hitting when he wasn't with the big boys. I can tell you that these two homers are the first two of his major league career.

[efin98]

I suppose that depends by what you mean when you say "regularly". If you mean that this is the first year in the NL when he looks like he'll be making regular appearances as a starter, I suppose that is true. But don't forget that he did have 3 seasons in the Pirate's organization with 44 appearances over the first two seasons. I really don't know what the situation is in the minors for NL teams, so I can't say much about his hitting when he wasn't with the big boys.

His first season hitting reguarly in addition to pitching.

He had 53 apearances pitching but only 52 plate appearances in the NL. His seven others came with Boston. He doesn't have the experience to continue hitting and his prior hitting experience is anemic at best- just 4 hits, 1 RBI, 1 BB, and 33 Ks. His career batting average is .073.

[FlashGordon]

His first season hitting reguarly in addition to pitching.

He had 53 apearances pitching but only 52 plate appearances in the NL. His seven others came with Boston. He doesn't have the experience to continue hitting and his prior hitting experience is anemic at best- just 4 hits, 1 RBI, 1 BB, and 33 Ks. His career batting average is .073.Yeah, I think it is a bit early to declare him the new Babe Ruth. There's just a lot of people right now who are enjoying the irony that lanky pitcher Bronson Arroyo has twice as many homeruns as Wily Mo. Anyone who is honest with themselves, however, knows that won't last. Predictions that Arroyo would be mediocre, at best, also seem to be premature. He's had two solid outings, one of which qualifies as excellant, and hit long balls have been a pleasant surprise for Reds fans. Even they have to admit that they don't expect him to chase any serious batting records this (or any other) season.

I'm just thinking that Bronson probably sees Theo Epstein's face on every ball he swipes at. ;) That kind of anger won't last forever, though.