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RedSoxVT92
04-05-2006, 07:07 PM
What team will Clemens have on his cap on his plaque in Cooperstown?

Mike D.
04-05-2006, 07:17 PM
I'll say Boston...he was there the longest, made his name there, and started there.

Francoeurstein
04-05-2006, 07:40 PM
Boston, spent more time there.

Chisox
04-06-2006, 06:13 AM
I say he SHOULD go in as a member of the Red Sox.
I say he probably will go in as a Yankee. He's already said that if he went in as anything but he wouldn't attend the ceremony, hasn't he?
I think the HOF will do everything it can to ensure he goes in on "their" team.

Captain Cold Nose
04-06-2006, 06:58 AM
I think the fact he is speaking to Boston currently in trying to decide what he's going to do this year goes a long way toward what will be on his plaque. It is the HOF's decision, and it should be Boston, but at least now he won't be bitter about it.

1905 Giants
04-06-2006, 08:24 PM
Boston Red Sox
Years:13
Wins:192
Losses:111
ERA:3.17
SO:2590

Toronto Bluejays
Years:2
Wins:41
Losses:13
ERA:2.35
SO:563

New York Yankees
Years:5
Wins:77
Losses:36
ERA:4.01
SO:946

Houston Astros
Years: 2
Wins: 31
Losses:12
ERA:2.43
SO:403

Red Sox: No Doubt About It

The Dude
04-06-2006, 08:28 PM
Obviously Boston. But darn, those were some great Toronto years.

rugbyfreak
04-11-2006, 04:57 AM
Is it just me, or does anyone else out there believe what a crock of s**t this whole business is about the HOF controlling which "hat" a player wears when he enters their hallowed halls? I know some players played it a little funny when they put their hat out to the highest bidder (Winfield, Boggs), but isn't it their prerogative? Of course Clemens wants to be known as a Yankee HOFer--there is no designation more prestigious in all of sports. Reggie's ego demanded that he go in no other way, even though I always thought of him as an A first (and I'm a Yankee fan). Clemens' body of work supports his "Red Sox-first" moniker, but he, too, has an enormous ego that requires the NY, and besides, we all know his relations are still a bit bitter with Boston. So what happens if the HOF demands that his plaque bear the Beantown B, and he declines? Do they deny him an induction? Or will they allow a player the neutral option of going capless in cases of an impasse? If not, it seems they have gone too far in exerting their self-important control over something that is a player's special honor, and the player's alone. Just an early morning rant from a fan who hates petty power mongers, their families, and all they stand for.

gbb

KCGHOST
04-11-2006, 07:28 AM
I expect the HoF will honor whatever team Roger chooses, provided he doesn't sell that privilege to some team he plays one or two seasons with.

switch_hitter
04-11-2006, 09:46 AM
He should go in as a Red Sox. He had the first of his great seasons there, he had his most seasons there, he first struck out 20 batters there, and he began his career there.

Mattingly
04-11-2006, 10:22 AM
I think that the debates about Dave Winfield's cap (Padres or Yanks) or Randy Johnson's cap (Mariners or D-backs) would be more debatable. Is there even a debate as to which team Roger Clemens made his greater claim to fame with?

I dunno, but this seems akin to wondering if Wade Boggs was really going to go in as a D-Ray, since he'd been made a hit coach or something in Tampa Bay.

Now then, Roger Clemens shall go in as a ... Yankee! :waving :D :p ;)

Seriously, he'll go in as cap-wearing member of the RED SAWX. :)

125osprey
04-14-2006, 05:54 PM
He'll go in wearing a Red Sox cap. I'd bet my kid's RESP on that.

DodgerBlue81
04-14-2006, 09:33 PM
LOL, someone voted for the Blue Jays.
I don't mind the Hall of Fame choosing. This being a perfect example why they should. He wants to go in with the Yankees, but he should be wearing a Red Sox hat.

Dodgerfan66
04-16-2006, 11:48 AM
he said he wanted to go in as a yankee.

geezer
04-16-2006, 02:39 PM
I think it will be Boston, but since we are so unsure is he's coming back, well never know, but right now it will be Boston, especially since he left the Saux in 1996, nobody has ever used #21 on the back of the uniform.

Jays4life
06-16-2006, 04:22 AM
No doubt, it should be as a Bluejay with a picture of him when he bleached his hair. He had the best pitching record during the time his was there. It's all about Quality and not quantity. Just because the Braves have made it to the World Series many times more then other teams, doesn't mean they should be considered better then then ones that made it there a few times, but won them while they were there.

soberdennis
06-16-2006, 04:57 AM
This Yankee fan feels this is a no brainer-Clemons is and always will be a Boston Red Sox.
I really enjoyed his years in pinstripes though.

Captain Cold Nose
06-16-2006, 05:26 AM
No doubt, it should be as a Bluejay with a picture of him when he bleached his hair. He had the best pitching record during the time his was there. It's all about Quality and not quantity. Just because the Braves have made it to the World Series many times more then other teams, doesn't mean they should be considered better then then ones that made it there a few times, but won them while they were there.
Two years is hardly representative of the career of Roger Clemens. And is was as a Boston player where he established himself. He was a great, HOF -caliber pitcher before he got to Toronto, which was just a strong blip in his career. It is about both quality and quantity.
Incidentally, it's a plaque with an image on it. Bleached hair would not show up on that.

Outta Here
06-16-2006, 07:54 AM
Boston Red Sox - 100% :clapping

runningshoes
06-16-2006, 08:12 AM
Anyone who thinks Clemens will go in a Yankee needs to have his head examined and anyone who thinks he'll go in as a Blue Jay needs to be medicated ASAP.

Captain Cold Nose
06-16-2006, 08:13 AM
Anyone who thinks Clemens will go in a Yankee needs to have his head examined and anyone who thinks he'll go in as a Blue Jay needs to be medicated ASAP.
I might switch to the Jays then, depending on what medication it is.

yankillaz
06-16-2006, 08:18 AM
Common sense (studied fans) says he will go in with Boston. Canadiens say he will go with Toronto. Normal fans say he will go with the Yankees. Psychologists like me (though not a shrink) say Clemens is CRAZY.

In his attempt to imitate his role model, Nolan Ryan, he'll go in the Hall with his last team: Houston Astros.:lookitup

runningshoes
06-16-2006, 08:21 AM
I might switch to the Jays then, depending on what medication it is.

Well, it will keep them out of that constant stupor in which they exist. :D

runningshoes
06-16-2006, 08:24 AM
Obviously Boston. But darn, those were some great Toronto years.

I usually reserve that kind of sentiment for something that takes place over a greater length of time, not two years.

Even five years with the Yankees is a stretch compared to his thirteen with the the Sox.

runningshoes
06-16-2006, 08:26 AM
Common sense (studied fans) says he will go in with Boston. Canadiens say he will go with Toronto. Normal fans say he will go with the Yankees. Psychologists like me (though not a shrink) say Clemens is CRAZY.

In his attempt to imitate his role model, Nolan Ryan, he'll go in the Hall with his last team: Houston Astros.:lookitup

I'm a crazy Canadian fan with a bit of common sense.

It's nice to see you think normal fans don't have any common sense, though.

dgarza
06-16-2006, 09:08 AM
New York Yankees
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ERA:4.01

Really? For a moment I was the face of Jack Morris...

yankillaz
06-16-2006, 09:35 AM
I'm a crazy Canadian fan with a bit of common sense.

It's nice to see you think normal fans don't have any common sense, though.

I'm a Yankee-Hater, cut me some slack. Normal Fans=Yankees Fans or Passionate Fans. So yes, whomever thinks he should go in with a Yankees cap is a Yankee fan.

If ya think he should go with Boston, you're probably right. I'm a Jay fan, and not even like that i think he deserves to go in with Toronto, so that means you're Canadien, as i'm Dominican.

But i'm a bit revolutionary, and like conspiracy theories and all, so he's going in with Houston.

Seattle1
07-09-2006, 09:01 AM
Would it change anyone's mind if the Astros won the World Series this year and Clemens was named MVP?

CaliforniaCajun
07-12-2006, 06:56 PM
What team will Clemens have on his cap on his plaque in Cooperstown?

Red Sox whether he wants to or not.