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Bill Burgess
03-30-2006, 11:27 PM
I date all my baseball photos using the following book. (Baseball Uniforms of the 20th Century: The Official ML BB Guide, Researched, Illustrated & Written by Marc Okkonen, 1991, 1993)

Also, the following website, hostd by the Hall of Fame, mainly using the same book above, but also using images after 1993, has assisted me in dating some of the photos. http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.org/dressed_to_the_nines/database.htm#database

On this photographic gallery, I have attempted, using the book above, to date all the photos. If I caption a photo with the following, John Smith, Cubs OF, 1910-13, that means that the photo was taken sometime between 1910-13, when the player was on the Cubs. It does NOT mean that the player was only on the Cubs in that time frame. He might have been on the Cubs from 1900-18, but the photo was only taken between 1910-13.
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Photos of the following individual players---Hank Aaron (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=58318)---Pete Alexander (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54211)---Ty Cobb (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=80626&page=9)---Eddie Collins (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54920)---Sam Crawford (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=71637)---Jimmy Foxx (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=55628)---Lou Gehrig (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54351)---Rickey Henderson (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54995)---Rogers Hornsby (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=56377)---Joe Jackson (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1305036&highlight=Greenville#post1305036)---Walter Johnson (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54344)---Nap Lajoie (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=72124)---Connie Mack (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=59240)---John McGraw (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=68164)---Mickey Mantle (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=67997)---Christy Mathewson (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=33507)---Willie Mays (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54723)---Babe Ruth (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=21998&page=7)---George Sisler (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=960330#post960330)---Tris Speaker (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=38504)---Pie Traynor (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=37345)---Rube Waddell (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=308179#post308179)--- Honus Wagner (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=13366)---Ted Williams (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=58624)---Zack Wheat (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=682455#post682455)---Rare Ty Cobb (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=73847) ---Rare Babe Ruth (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=73654)---Bill's Babe Ruth (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=80285)---Rare Ted Williams (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1296657#post1296657)---Bill's Rare Finds (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=75602) ---Babefan's Fantastic Vintage Baseball photos (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=93482)
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Photographic Archive Index:

1. Index
2. Top, Left: Buck Ewing: (Hall of Fame Archives - BL-4995.84)
2. Top, Right: Buck Ewing: Baseball: An Illustrated History, by Geoffrey C. Ward & Ken Burns, 1994, pp. 37.
2. Middle, Left: Buck Ewing: INTERNET:
2. Middle, Middle: Buck Ewing: INTERNET:
2. Middle, Right: Buck Ewing: Smithsonian Baseball: Inside The World's Finest Private Collections, by Stephen Wong, 2005, pp. 37.
2. Bottom: Buck Ewing: INTERNET: A.G. Spalding Baseball Collection
2. Bottom, Left: Buck Ewing: The Illustrated American, May 10, 1890. These photos appeared in Baseball Extra: A newspaper history of the glorious game from its beginnings to the present, From the Eric C. Caren Collection, 2000, pp. 292.
2. Bottom, Middle: Buck Ewing: The Illustrated American, May 10, 1890. These photos appeared in Baseball Extra: A newspaper history of the glorious game from its beginnings to the present, From the Eric C. Caren Collection, 2000, pp. 292.
2. Far Bottom, Right: Buck Ewing: The Baseball Hall of Fame 50th Anniversary Book, by Gerald Astor, 1988, pp. 27.
2. Bottom, Right: Buck Ewing: That Old Ball Game: rare photographs from baseball's glorioius past, Compiled and Edited by David R. Phillips, text by Lawrence Kart, 1975, pp. 33.
3. Top, Left: Cap Anson: Pictorial History of American Sports, by John Durant & Otto Bettmann, 1952, pp. 89.
3. Top, Middle: Cap Anson: Baseball: An Illusterated History, by Geoffrrey C. Ward/Ken Burns, 1988, pp. 31. Or one can use Baseball's Best, by Martin Appel & Burt Goldblatt, 1980, pp. 12, or The Baseball Story, by Fred Lieb, 1950, pp. 51.
3. Top, Right: Cap Anson: INTERNET:
3. Bottom: Cap Anson: INTERNET:
3. Bottom, Right: 3 shot collage of Anson: INTERNET:
4. Willie Keeler: INTERNET:
4. Willie Keeler: Middle:
4. Willie Keeler: Right: 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 64.
4. Middle: Willie Keeler:
4. Bottom: Willie Keeler: SABR's The National Pastime, Special Pictorial Issue - The Deadball Era, Volume 5, Spring, 1986, pp. 1.
4. Far Bottom: Willie Keeler: INTERNET:
4. Bottom, Bottom: Willie Keeler: Source: That Ball Game, compiled and edited by David R. Phillips, text by Lawrence Kart, 1975, 96.
5. Top, Left: Cy Young: The Hurlers, by Kevin Kerrane, 1989, pp. 93.
5. Top, Right: Cy Young: Baseball Memories, 1900-1909: An Illustrated Chronicle of The Big Leagues' First Decade, by Marc Okkonen, 1992, pp. 93.
5. Middle, Left: Cy Young: My 66 Years in the Big Leagues, by Connie Mack, 1950, pp. 33.
5. Middle, Middle: Cy Young: Baseball's Best, by Martin Appel & Burt Goldblatt, 1980, pp. 404.
5. Middle, Right: Cy Young: The New York Times Book of Sports Legends, ed. by Joseph J. Vecchione, 1991, pp. 358.
5. Bottom, Left: Cy Young: INTERNET:
6. Top, Left: Michael 'King' Kelly:
6. Top, Middle: Michael 'King' Kelly: Baseball in the Afternoon: Tales from a Bygone Era, by Robert Smith, 1993, pp. 128. Or, one can alternately use Baseball: A Celebration!, by James Buckley, Jr./Jim Gigliotti, 2001, pp. 49. SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 73. 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 69.
6. Top, Right: Michael 'King' Kelly: Baseball: An Illustrated History, by Geoffrey C. Ward/Ken Burns, 1988, pp. 36.
6. Bottom, Left: Michael 'King' Kelly: The Baseball Story, by Fred Lieb, 1950, pp. 31.
6. Bottom, Right: Michael 'King' Kelly: 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 53.
7. Left: Ed Delahanty: INTERNET: Chicago Daily News
7. Middle: Ed Delahanty: INTERNET: Chicago Daily News
7. Right: Ed Delahanty: The World Series and Highlights of Baseball, by Lamont Buchanan, 1951, pp. 26.
7. Bottom, Left: Ed Delahanty: Baseball: the Illustrated History of America's Game, by Donald Honig, 1990, pp. 23.
8. Left: Dan Brouthers: American Baseball: Volume 1, by David Quentin Voigt, 1990, pp. 160.
9. Top, Left: Jimmy Ryan: INTERNET: Chicago Daily News
9. Top, Right: Jimmy Ryan: INTERNET:
9. Middle, Left: Jimmy Ryan: SABR's Baseball Research Journal, #28, 1999, pp. 65.
9. Middle, Second from Left: Jimmy Ryan: The Ballplayers, ed. by Mike Shatzkin, 1990, pp. 952.
9. Middle, Third from Left: Jimmy Ryan: 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 71.
9. Middle, Far Right: Jimmy Ryan: Baseball Memories, 1900-1909: An Illustrated Chronicle of The Big Leagues' First Decade, by Marc Okkonen, 1992, pp. 112.
9. Bottom, Left: Jimmy Ryan: INTERNET:
9. Bottom, Right: Jimmy Ryan: INTERNET:
10. Left: Herman Long: INTERNET: Chicago Daily News
10. Middle: Herman Long: 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 71.
10. Right: Herman Long: SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 81. Baseball Memories, 1900-1909: An Illustrated Chronicle of The Big Leagues' First Decade, by Marc Okkonen, 1992, pp. 91.
10. Bottom, Left: Herman Long: The Ballplayers, ed. by Mike Shatzkin, 1990, pp. 633. 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 79.
10. Bottom, Right: Herman Long: The Boston Braves, by Harold Kaese, 1948, pp. 86.
11. Left: Amos Rusie: The History of Baseball, by Allison Danzig/Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 58.
11. Middle: Amos Rusie: Strikeout: A Celebration of The Art of Pitching, by William Curran, 1995, pp. 84.
11. Right: Amos Rusie: Baseball: An Illusterated History, by Geoffrrey C. Ward/Ken Burns, 1988, pp. 36.
11. Far Right: Amos Rusie: Baseball Memories, 1900-1909: An Illustrated Chronicle of The Big Leagues' First Decade, by Marc Okkonen, 1992, pp. 121.
11. Middle: collage of 3 Ned Williamson baseball cards: INTERNET:
11. Middle, Right: Ned Williamson: A Clever Base-Ballist: The Life and times of John Montgomery Ward, by Bryan Di Salvatore, 1999, pp. 244. Or one could alternately use the less cropped but less intensely-detailed: Big Sticks, by William Curran, 1990, pp. 103.
11. Bottom: collage of 3 Ned Williamson baseball cards: INTERNET:
12. Top, Left: Jim 'Pud' Galvin: Sporting News Presents Heroes of the Hall, Baseball's all-time best, by Ron Smith, 2002, pp. 189.
12. Top, Right: Jim 'Pud' Galvin: INTERNET:
12. Bottom: Left: Mickey Welch: INTERNET:
12. Bottom, Middle: Mickey Welch: INTERNET:
12. Bottom, Right: Mickey Welch: INTERNET:
13. Left: Clark Griffith: The Baseball Story, by Fred Lieb, 1950, pp. 51.
13. Middle: Clark Griffith: SABR's The National Pastime: Special Pictorial Issue: The Dead Ball Era, Spring, 1986, #5, pp. 27.
13. Right: Clark Griffith: Sporting News Presents Heroes of the Hall, Baseball's all-time best, by Ron Smith, 2002, pp. 208.
15. Left: Hugh Duffy: Spalding Collection
15. Middle: Hugh Duffy: INTERNET:
15. Right: Hugh Duffy: The Boston Braves, by Harold Kaese, 1948, pp. 86.
16. Tony Mullane:
16. Tony Mullane: The Crooked Pitch, by Martin Quigley, 1984, pp. 5.
17. Charlie Radbourne: The Boston Braves, by Harold Kaese, 1948, pp. 54.
18. George Gore: INTERNET:
18. George Gore: INTERNET:
18. Jimmy McAleer: INTERNET:
18. Jimmy McAleer: INTERNET:
18. Jimmy McAleer: The Cleveland Indians, by Franklin Lewis, 1949, pp. 52.
18. Jimmy McAleer: The National Game, by Alfred H. Spink, 1911, pp. 275.
19. Left: Roger Connor: Spalding Collection
19. Right: Roger Connor: Baseball's Best, by Martin Appel & Burt Goldblatt, 1980, pp. 109. 108.
19. Botom: Roger Connor: Baseball: An Illusterated History, by Geoffrrey C. Ward/Ken Burns, 1988, pp. 36.
20. Left: Cal McVey: INTERNET: A. G. Spalding Collection, Or, one can alternately use SABR's The National Pastime, #16, 1996, pp. 109. SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 33. 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 16.
20. Right: Paul Hines: SABR's Mound City Memories: Baseball in St. Louis, edited by Bob Tiemann, 2007, pp. 15.
21. Left: Charlie Bennett: SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 71.
21. Right: Charlie Bennett: www.members.tripod.com
22. Left: Kid Nichols: Baseball's Best, by Martin Appel & Burt Goldblatt, 1980, pp. 304.
22. 2nd from Left: Kid Nichols: Baseball's Best, by Martin Appel & Burt Goldblatt, 1980, pp. 304.
22. 3rd from Left: Kid Nichols: Baseball's Best, by Martin Appel & Burt Goldblatt, 1980, pp. 304.
22. 3rd from Right: Kid Nichols:
22. Far Right: Kid Nichols: The Autobiography of Bbaseball, by Joseph Wallace, 1998, pp. 122.
23. Left: George Davis: Sporting News Presents Heroes of the Hall, Baseball's all-time best, by Ron Smith, 2002, pp. 133.
23. Right: George Davis:
23. Bottom, Left: George Davis: SABR'S Deadball Stars of the American League, edited by David Jones, 2001, pp. 486.
23. Bottom, Right: George Davis: Baseball Memories, 1900-1909: An Illustrated Chronicle of The Big Leagues' First Decade, by Marc Okkonen, 1992, pp. 153.
24. Left: Deacon White: A. G. Spalding Collection
24. Middle: Deacon White: A. G. Spalding Collection
24. Right: Deacon White: SABR's The National Pastime, 1999, #19, pp. inside cover. Or one can alternately use the much more cropped The Imperfect Diamond: The Story of Baseball's reserve System and the Men who fought To cfhange It, by Lee Lowenfish/Tony Lupien, 1980, pp. 126.
25. Top, Left: Jimmie Collins: Sporting News Presents Heroes of the Hall, Baseball's all-time best, by Ron Smith, 2002, pp. 113. Or, Baseball's Dream Teams, by Lloyd Johnson, 1990, pp. 19.
25. Top, Middle: Jimmie Collins: Athletics Album: A Photo History of the Philadelphia Athletics, by Mark Stang, 2006, pp. 30.
25. Top, Right: Jimmie Collins:The Boston Red Sox, by Frederick G. Lieb, 1947, pp. 66.
25. Bottom: Jimmy Collins: Baseball's Hall of Fame, by Kenneth D. Smith, 1947, pp. 170.
25. Bottom, Middle: Jimmie Collins: Red Sox Century: 100 Years of Red Sox Baseball, by Glenn Stout/Richard A. Johnson, 2000, pp. 2. Or the less clear SABR's Deadball Stars of the American League, edited by David Jones, 2006, pp. 404.
25. Bottom, Right: Jimmie Collins: The Boston Braves, by Jimmie Collins, 1948, pp. 86.

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26. John M. Ward: A Clever Base-Ballist: The Life and Times of John Montgomery Ward, by Bryan Di Salvatore, 1999, pp. 244. SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 83.
26. John M. Ward: Baseball: A Celebration!, by James Buckley, Jr./Jim Gigliotti, 2001, pp. 46.
26. Bottom: John M. Ward: Baseball's Best, by Martin Appel & Burt Goldblatt, 1980, pp. 384.
27. Fred Tenney: The Boston Braves, by Harold Kaese, 1948, pp. 87.
28. Left: Doc Bushong:
28. Right: Doc Bushong:
29. Top, Left: Charlie Ferguson: INTERNET: A. G. Spalding Collection; SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 72.
29. Top, Right: Charlie Ferguson: INTERNET: A. G. Spalding Collection;
29. Rest of #29: Charlie Ferguson: INTERNET: A. G. Spalding Collection;
30. Top, Left: John Clarkson: 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 46.
30. Top, Middle: John Clarkson: INTERNET:
30. Top, Right: Top: John Clarkson: INTERNET:
30. Bottom: John Clarkson: Baseball's Best, by Martin Appel & Burt Goldblatt, 1980, pp. 80.
30. Bottom, Right: John Clarkson: 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 62.
30. Bottom, Right: John Clarkson: The Boston Braves, by Harold Kaese, 1948, pp. 54.
31. Left: Ross Barnes: 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 16.
31. Right: Kid Gleason: INTERNET:
32. Left: Bid McPhee: Sporting News Presents Heroes of the Hall, Baseball's all-time best, by Ron Smith, 2002, pp. 341. Or, one can alternately use SABR's The National Pastime, #14, 1994, pp. 49. SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 73.
32. Middle: Bid McPhee:
32. Right: Bid McPhee: INTERNET:
33. Frances C. Richter:
34. Left: Wes Fisler: INTERNET: A. G. Spalding Collection; SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 32.
34. Right: Tim Murnane: A. G. Spalding Collection
36. Martin Bergen: SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 81
37. Left: Connie Mack:
37. Right: Connie Mack:
38. Top, Left: Hughie Jennings: Baseball's Golden Age: The Photographs of Charles M. Conlon, by Neal McCabe/Constance McCabe, 1993, pp. 142. Source: Sporting News Presents Heroes of the Hall: Baseball's all-time best, by Ron Smith, 2002, pp. 252.
39. All shots of Tommy McCarthy: A. G. Spalding Collection
40. All shots of Jack Clements: A. G. Spalding Collection
40. Top, Right: Jack Clements: 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 53.
41. Left: Jack Glasscock: The Ballplayers, ed. by Mike Shatzkin, 1990, pp. 394.
41. Right: Charlie Buffinton: All shots of Charlie Buffinton: INTERNET: A. G. Spalding Collection
or, one can alternately use The BallPlayers, ed. by Mike Shatzkin, 1990, pp. 130.
43. Top, Left: Tim Keefe: Sporting News Presents Heroes of the Hall, Baseball's all-time best, by Ron Smith, 2002, pp. 264. Or one can use the more cropped Baseball's Best, by Martin Appel & Burt Goldblatt, 1980, pp. 236.
43. Top, Right: Tim Keefe:
43. Bottom, Left: Tim Keefe: 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 67.
43. Bottom, Right: Tim Keefe: SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 55.
44. Left: Bill Lange: SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 85.
44. Right: Dummy Hoy: The Ballplayers, ed. by Mike Shatzkin, 1990, pp. 494.
45. Left: Ned Hanlon: Pictorial History of American Sports, by John Durant & Otto Bettmann, 1952, pp. 91.
45. Middle: Ned Hanlon:
45. Right: Ned Hanlon:
45. Bottom Left: Silver King:
45. Bottom, Middle: Silver King: The Ballplayers, ed. by Mike Shatzkin, 1990, pp. 572.
45. Bottom, Right: Candy Cummings: SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 30.
46. Left: Sam Thompson: SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 83.
46. Right: Wilbert Robinson: The Ballplayers, ed. by Mike Shatzkin, 1990, pp. 930.
47. Left: Ed McKean: The Ballplayers, ed. by Mike Shatzkin, 1990, pp. 716.
47. Middle: Pete Browning: Baseball: An Illustrated History, by Geoffrey C. Ward & Ken Burns, 1994, pp. 37. (Or, one can alternately use: SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 71. 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 34.
47. Right: Pete Browning: INTERNET:
48. Sports Writers:
49. Left: Boston BeanEaters: SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 34-35. Or, one can alternately use the much less clear, detailed, Our Game, by Charles Alexander, 1991, pp. 116.
49 Right: Boston Red Stockings: Our Game, by Charles Alexander, 1991, pp. 116.
49. Third from Top: Boston Red Stockings: Baseball's Book of Firsts, by Lloyd Johnson, 1999, pp. 55.
49. Fourth from the Top: Boston Red Stockings:
50. 1882 Chicago White Stockings:

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51. 1887 Detroit Wolverines: INTERNET: A. G. Spalding Collection
52. 1884 New York Gothams: 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 59. Or, one can use the much clearer, but more cropped SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 47.
53. 1889 New York Giants:
54. 1899 Cleveland Spiders:
55. Billy Sunday: Baseball: An Illusterated History, by Geoffrrey C. Ward/Ken Burns, 1988, pp. 37.
56. Top: 1879 Providence Grays Base Ball Club: SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 45.
56. Bottom: 1879 Providence Grays Base Ball Club: INTERNET: A. G. Spalding Collection.
57. Bob Ferguson
58. 1860 Brooklyn Excelsiors
59. Noodles Hahn
60. Left: Guy Hecker: SABR's The National Pastime, #14, 1994, pp. 16. Or, SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 71.
61. Right: Ted Breitenstein: SABR's The National Pastime, #11, 1992, pp. 13.
61. Sam Crane:
63. Baseball owners:
64. Top: 1894 Baltimore Orioles: The Baseball Story, by Fred Lieb, 1950, pp. 146. Or, one can alternately use The Great American Baseball Scrapbook, by A. D. Suehsdorf, 1978, pp. 15.
64. Bottom: 1894 Baltimore Orioles: That Old Ball Game, compiled and edited by David R. Phillips, text by Lawrence Kart, 1975, pp. 15.
64. Third from Top: Baltimore Orioles: Or one can alternately use The Days of Mr. McGraw, by Joseph Durso, 1969, pp. 24.
64. Bottom: Baltimore Orioles:
65. Nashville Americans 1885, Southern League.
66. Hugh Duffy:
67. Left: Bobby Lowe: The Sporting News Selects the 50 Greatest Sluggers, by Tony DeMarco, 2000, pp. 116. Or a much degraded photo in Sporting News, July 11, 1951, pp. 13.
67. Right: Bobby Lowe: The Boston Braves, by Harold Kaese, 1948, pp. 86.
68. Charles Comiskey: The Story of Baseball in words and pictures, by John Durant, 1947, pp. 115.
68. Charles Comiskey: Source: That Old Ball Game, compiled and edited by David R. Phillips, text by Lawrence Kart, 1975, pp. 29. Or, one can alternately use the much smaller, less detailed Baseball: An Illusterated History, by Geoffrrey C. Ward/Ken Burns, 1988, pp. 36.
69. Top: 1885 Chicago White Stockings: SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 66. Or, one can use the more cropped The Baseball Story, by Fred Lieb, 1950, pp. 50.
69. Bottom: 1885 Chicago White Stockings: INTERNET: (Transcendental Graphics)
70. Lee Richmond:
71. Top: Clark Griffith:
71. Bottom: Clark Griffith:

73. Tip O'Neil:
74. 1897 Boston Beaneaters: Our Game, by Charles Alexander, 1991, pp. 116.
75. Boston Beaneater's Infieders: SABR's The National Pastime, #3, Spring, 1984, pp. 81.

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76. Baltimore Orioles Infielders: INTERNET: 150 Years of Baseball, 1989, pp. 73.
77. Western League Magnates: 1890s: The American League Story, by Lee Allen, 1965, pp. 116.
78. Freddie Parent: Baseball Memories, 1900-1909: An Illustrated Chronicle of The Big Leagues' First Decade, by Marc Okkonen, 1992, pp. 84.
80. Member feedback post

Bill Burgess
03-30-2006, 11:32 PM
BB Ref (http://www.baseball-reference.com/e/ewingbu01.shtml)---Bill Burgess' write-up (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1253434&postcount=76)---BB Library (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Buck_Ewing_1859)---BB Ref Bullpen Article (http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Buck_Ewing)

-------------------Buck Ewing-------------------Buck Ewing, studio photograph
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3 early baseball cards of Buck Ewing:
Photographs taken in the studio, against a canvass backdrop.
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---------------------------------------------------------------------------An artist's portrait, drawn from a photograph.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------Source: The Illustrated American, May 10, 1890.
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Bill Burgess
03-30-2006, 11:34 PM
BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Cap_Anson_1852)---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/a/ansonca01.shtml)---excellent website on Anson (http://www.capanson.com/)---Cap Photos (http://www.capanson.com/photo_archive.html)

Cap Anson, Chicago White Stockings, 1B---------------Anson -----------------------------------------------Anson
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Bill Burgess
03-30-2006, 11:43 PM
Willie Keeler, 1902 Brooklyn OF-----BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Willie_Keeler_1872)---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/k/keelewi01.shtml)
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----New York Giants' RF, 1904-05--------------------------------------------New York Giants, 1910, John J. McGraw in background.
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Bill Burgess
04-07-2006, 08:36 AM
-------------Cy Young, Red Sox' P, July 23, 1908-------------------------------------------------------------1910-11--- BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Cy_Young_1867)---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/y/youngcy01.shtml)
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------------------------Red Sox' P, 1902-08------------------------Indians' P, 1909-----------------------------Red Sox P, 1903-07.
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runningshoes
04-07-2006, 02:57 PM
Michael 'King' Kelly, C/OF, 1887-92---Albright's musings post (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=370606&postcount=141)---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=King_Kelly_1857)---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/k/kellyki01.shtml)
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chicago C, 1880-86
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Bill Burgess
04-08-2006, 01:31 PM
Ed Delahanty, Washington OF, 1903,---BB Ref (http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/delahed01.shtml)--------------------Washington LF, 1902---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Ed_Delahanty_1867)
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Bill Burgess
04-08-2006, 02:49 PM
Dan Brouthers, studio photos---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/broutda01.shtml)---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Dan_Brouthers_1858)---BB Reference Bullpen (http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Dan_Brouthers)
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Bill Burgess
04-08-2006, 02:51 PM
Jimmy Ryan, OF, 1902---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Jimmy_Ryan_1863)---BB Ref (http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/ryanji01.shtml)--------------1903-----AG2004's write-up (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=292296&postcount=111)---Jalbright's Musings (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=902288&postcount=331)
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---------------------------------1901------------------------------------------------------1901
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Bill Burgess
04-08-2006, 02:53 PM
Albright's musings post (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=541460&postcount=270)---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Herman_Long_1866)---BB Ref (http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/longhe01.shtml)---Bill Burgess' write-up (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=298481&postcount=81)---BB Ref Bullpen article (http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Herman_Long)---BB Page Article (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:I5yldCv2tNcJ:www.thebaseballpage.co m/players/longhe01.php+%22Herman+Long%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us)

Herman Long, 1903, NY Highlanders, SS
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Bill Burgess
04-09-2006, 10:10 AM
Amos Rusie---Albright's musings post (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361719&postcount=120)---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Amos_Rusie_1871)---BB Ref (http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/rusieam01.shtml)

-------------------Amos Rusie---------------------------------------Rusie--------------------------Rusie, 1889
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Ned Williamson---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Ned_Williamson_1857)---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/willine01.shtml)---Bill Burgess' write-up (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=298515&postcount=82)---Wikipedia Article (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7b/Ned_Williamson_Baseball_Card.jpg/200px-Ned_Williamson_Baseball_Card.jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Williamson&h=371&w=200&sz=19&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=jd-vOAo-XDR37M:&tbnh=122&tbnw=66&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2B%2522Ned%2BWilliamson%2522%26svnum %3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG)

---6 baseball cards of Ned Williamson, Chicago White Stockings (Cubs), SS 1886-89--------------------------------Ned Williamson, 1877
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Pittsburgh Allegheny
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Bill Burgess
04-13-2006, 11:22 AM
Albright's musings post (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=370018&postcount=140)---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Pud_Galvin_1856)---BB Ref (http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/galvipu01.shtml)

-------------James "Pud" Galvin
"The Little Steam Engine" and "Gentle Jeems." 1875-92
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Mickey Welch, P---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/welchmi01.shtml)
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Bill Burgess
04-13-2006, 11:36 AM
Jim Albright post on him (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=667740&postcount=2)---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Clark_Griffith_1869)---Manager BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/griffcl01.shtml)---Player BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/griffcl01.shtml)

---Clark Griffith, P, 1904, NY Highlanders-----------------1904--------------------Clark Griffith, Senators' Mgr., 1912
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Bill Burgess
04-14-2006, 09:50 PM
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Bill Burgess
04-15-2006, 12:12 PM
Hugh Duffy, Boston OF, 1892-1900---Albright's musings post (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=534926&postcount=258)---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Hugh_Duffy_1866)---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/duffyhu01.shtml)
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Bill Burgess
04-15-2006, 03:55 PM
Tony Mullane, P/OF---Albright's musings post (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=370012&postcount=139)---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Tony_Mullane_1859)---BB Reference. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mullato01.shtml)
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Bill Burgess
04-15-2006, 09:34 PM
Charlie 'Old Hoss' Radbourne, P., 1886-90---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/radboch01.shtml)
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Bill Burgess
04-15-2006, 09:38 PM
Albright's musings post (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=546237&postcount=286)---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=George_Gore_1857)---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/gorege01.shtml)---AG2004's write-up (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=746911&postcount=450)---Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gore)

George Gore, Chicago White Stockings CF--2 early baseball cards of George Gore; Notice ball hanging by a string?
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Jimmy McAleer, CF; 2 early baseball cards of Jimmy McAleer, studio photographs
BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Jimmy_McAleer_1864)---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mcaleji01.shtml)--- Bill Burgess' Jimmy McAleer write-up (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=297813&postcount=75)---Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_McAleer)-----------------1889-98
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Jimmy McAleer, as St. Louis Browns' manager, 1908.
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Bill Burgess
04-15-2006, 09:42 PM
--------------Roger Connor -------------------------------------------------Roger Connor, ----BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/connoro01.shtml)
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Bill Burgess
04-15-2006, 10:02 PM
Cal McVey, Boston C, 1874---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mcveyca01.shtml)---------------------------------Paul Hines, Chicago White Stockings CF, 1874-77---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/h/hinespa01.shtml)
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Bill Burgess
04-26-2006, 10:03 PM
Albright's musings post (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=393654&postcount=165)---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Charlie_Bennett_1854)---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/bennech01.shtml)---Bill Burgess' write-up (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=297827&postcount=79)

On January 12, 1894, at the age of 39, while still active as a ballplayer, he was run over by a train at Wellsville, KA,
and had to have both his legs amputated. Detroit's ballpark was subsequently named after Charlie.

Charlie Bennett, Detroit C, 1881-88------------------Charlie Bennett, former Detroit star catcher
-------------------------------------------------------with prosthetic legs. Bennett Field in Detroit was named after him.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------with 1890 Boston Nationals(Bees)

Bill Burgess
04-26-2006, 10:05 PM
Kid Nichols, St. Louis P, 1904-05--------------BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Kid_Nichols_1869)---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/n/nichoki01.shtml)
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Bill Burgess
04-26-2006, 10:06 PM
------------George Davis, White Sox SS, 1908-09------------White Sox SS, 1905, South Side Park ---Albright's musings (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361709&postcount=118)---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=George_Davis_1870)---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/davisge01.shtml)
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1905, South Side Park
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----------1906-07------------------------------------------------------------------------------1893-1901
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Bill Burgess
04-26-2006, 10:09 PM
Deacon White, 1888, Detroit Wolverines, 3B/C-------Albright's musings post (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=370011&postcount=138)---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Deacon_White_1847)---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/whitede01.shtml)
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Bill Burgess
04-26-2006, 10:10 PM
Jimmy Collins, Red Sox 3B, 1901-03--- BB Library (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Jimmy_Collins_1870)---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/colliji01.shtml)---Obituary (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thedeadballera.com/Obits/scheckardsobit.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.thedeadballera.com/Obits/Sheckard.Jimmy.Obit.html&h=1531&w=350&sz=65&hl=en&start=85&tbnid=cZcNV-4GXnLPlM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=34&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2B%2522Jimmy%2BSheckard%2522%26start %3D80%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN)----Phil. A's, 1907-08
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------------------------------------------------------------------Red Sox' 3B, 1901-04
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Bill Burgess
04-26-2006, 10:13 PM
John Montgomery Ward, Brooklyn, SS/2B, 1991-92-------------------------Ward-----------BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/wardjo01.shtml)
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Bill Burgess
04-26-2006, 10:16 PM
Fred Tenney: Boston Nationals' 1B, 1894-1905---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/t/tennefr02.shtml)
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Bill Burgess
05-02-2006, 02:02 PM
Doc Bushong, Brooklyn C, 1888-90---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/bushodo01.shtml)
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Bill Burgess
05-04-2006, 10:37 PM
Introducing Charles J. Ferguson:-----BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/f/ferguch01.shtml)

Born: April 17, 1863, Charlottesville, VA
Died: April 29, 1888, Philadelphia, PA, at age 25, of typhoid fever
BB/TR; 6'0, 165

He attracted attention while pitching for the independent Richmond, VA team. He shut out Boston's ML team on 4 singles.

In 1884, he signed with the Philadelphia Nationals.

In 1884, he went 21-25 for them. 3.54 ERA;

In 1885, he was 26-20. 2.22 ERA. In 61 games, he hit .308, .368, .379

In 1886, he was 30-9. ERA - 1.98. Finished with 11 straight wins.

In 1887, he was 22-10. 3.00 ERA; In 72 games, he hit .337, .417, .470, which included 14 doubles, 6 triples, and 3 homers, in only 264 ABs.

Now one might say that he was a fairly good pitcher, but others were even better. And you would be right. But, . . . pitching wasn't all of Charlie's talents.

He was a superlative player in the field too. In fact, when he wasn't pitching, he was doing duties elsewhere, and very well at them too.

He played OF 53 games, 2B 27 games, and 3B 8 games. His versatility was rare, even for a league in its formative stages, where specialization hadn't locked in yet, and many players were noted for their ability to be plugged in to a variety of utility positions, including pitching.

Twice he hit over .300 with power. He covered CF with good speed.

At the end of 1887, his team had the chance to finish 2nd. So Charlie played 2B for the final 17 games, when he wasn't pitching. He won 7 games, hit .361 and fielded .963. His team won 16 of its last 17 games and came in 2nd.

--------W-----L------PCT------G-----SH------INN-------BB----So----ERA
-------99-----64-----.607-----183----13-----1514-------290---726---2.67

Bill Hanna had this to say about Charlie, in a June, 1924 article for Baseball Magazine.

"Ferguson belongs in the "twenty-five" because he was the game's best all around player. There have been men who could look after as many positions, but none who could play them all so well. Ferguson was a good (garbled) regular of any ball club of the present; he was a good second baseman, not just a fill-er-in, but good: he could play the outfield well enough to make the absence of the regular no handicap, and he was a first class batter. There hasn't been an all around man since his day to equal him."

Wilbert Robinson had this to say about Charlie. In June, 1931, rated him 5th greatest player of all time.
"Hans Wagner was one. Back in the old, old days the Phillies had a man who could pitch like a streak and play the infield, too. His name was Charley Ferguson. You can't leave him off. There's Hughey Jennings, too. He was an unbeatable shortstop. As I said before, it's unfair to name just a few. Think of the many good ones I've never seen! But if I have to name the best five you can put down Cobb, Keeler, Ruth, Wagner and Ferguson for me."

All Charlie Ferguson
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runningshoes
05-04-2006, 10:58 PM
--------John Clarkson, Boston P, 1888-92 ------------------------Chicago P, 1884-87---BB Library bio (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=John_Clarkson_1861)---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/clarkjo01.shtml)
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Sultan_1895-1948
05-05-2006, 04:24 AM
Ross Barnes, Red Stockings, 2B, 1874---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/barnero01.shtml)--------------------------------------------Kid Gleason, P/2B
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Sultan_1895-1948
05-05-2006, 04:27 AM
John 'Bid' McPhee, Reds' 2B---BB Ref (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mcphebi01.shtml)
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Sultan_1895-1948
05-05-2006, 04:31 AM
Introducing Frances Charles Richter

Born: January 26, 1854, Philadelphia, PA
Died: February 12, 1926, Philadelphia, PA, age 72, bronchial pneumonia at home.

Philadelphia sports writer/editor: Sporting Life , 1872-1926;
Was Editor-in-Chief of AL Reach Official American League Base Ball Guide (1902-1926, Feb.12, death);
In those days, being a Guide editor was a position of enormous prestige/importance.
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Richter's Impact on baseball (http://www.uga.edu/juro/2003/shaw.htm)---Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Richter)
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Mr. Richter was a noted amateur player in Philadelphia. In 1872, he started writing sports with the Philadelphia Day, eventually rising to managing editor. He moved to the Sunday World and Public Ledger in 1880, when The Day folded. He instituted the US's 1st full-fledged sports departments in the Phil. Public Ledger.

In 1876, the NL expelled the Phil. Athletics from the league. Consequently, Mr. Richter supported the the formation of the rival American Association (AA) in 1882. Mr. Richter founded the weekly Sporting Life in 1883, 3 years prior to the Spink Brothers founding The Sporting News, in 1886, in St. Louis, MO.

In 1883, Mr. Richter assisted organizing the Phillies as the NL came back to Philadelphia. He supported the Player's League in 1890, with his Sporting Life.

He wrote, "I have no very great cause to love the National League. What has it ever done for The Sporting Life? ... All the League ever did for The Sporting Life because it chose to act independently was to try and crush it."

When the AA folded in 1891, Mr. Richter was involved in several tries to break the monopoly of the NL. In 1894, he allied with Al Buckenberger, Fred Pfeffer & Billie Barnie in a failed try to revive the AA. Again in early 1900, he allied with Chris Von Der Ahe, Cap Anson & John McGraw to reform a new AA.

In 1901, he was named Editor-In-Chief of Reach Guide for 1902, which covered the AL. He continued in this role until he died.

In 1880, he started the 1st sports dept. ever in a newspaper, The Public Ledger.

Drew up National Agreement (1883),
Helped place Phil Club in AA (1882),
Helped place Phil club in NL (1883),
Helped assimilate AA into NL (1891),
Drew up Millennium Plan which ended BB war.

Mr. Richter was offered the Presidency of the National League in 1907. He declined due to his obligations to the AL Reach Guide & his own Sporting Life.

In 1914, he wrote, "Richter's History and Records of Baseball", an expansion of his earlier Brief History of Baseball.

In WWI, Sporting News was granted a subsidy by ML Baseball. Mr. Richter's Sporting Life received no such kindness.

For many years, he was one of the official scorers for the World's Series games, sharing the honor with JG Taylor Spink, publisher of the Sporting News.

He founded Sporting Life in 1883, a weekly baseball paper, which became a great force in BB until he disposed of it in 1917, during the War. The motto of his publication, "Devoted to the Baseball Men and Measures, With Malice Toward None and Charity for All," sums up the character of Mr. Richter.

He was a columnist for Sporting News from Dec. 8, 1921 - Sept., 1925. His column, Casual Comment was often addressed to administrative matters. He was always at the top of the BB world, albeit behind the scenes, working for the betterment of the game he loved so much.

For a long lifetime of service to BB at its highest levels, I nominate him for the Taylor Spink Award. His every waking moment was happily devoted to BB. In April, 1946, he & 11 others were elected to BB Hall of Fame as sports writers (Honor Rolls).
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(Sporting News, July 6, 1922, Casual Comment column)

1922 - "The recent additional disciplining of Babe Ruth by President Johnson for vile language to Umpire Dinneen, following other suspensions for offenses since his return to the game, has had a temporary quieting effect upon this inflated and ill-disciplined young man, but of the permanence of his reform there must be grave doubt, as his entire career shows that he has not the fundamental character to build real greatness in his chosen profession upon. Ruth has been spoiled by his popularity with the unthinking part of the public for excellence in one specialty: by the injudicious coddling and exploitation by his club; and by the incessant praise of the metropolitan writers--all of which he has not the brains, training or temperament to bear with becoming modesty or grace. His lack of ability to measure up fully to true greatness has been revealed throughout his career in recent years.

When the Boston Club gave him leeway in 1919 for his home run specialty by making him a regular instead of a pitcher, he broke the long-standing major league individual home run record, but proved such an insubordinate member of the team that Boston was glad to sell him to the New York Club. For that club in 1920 he broke the world's home run record, with the aid of the radical changes in the pitching rules, but the New York team won no pennant--owing largely to Ruth's discouraging effect on team work, though the club profited largely through his attraction as a drawing card. In 1921 he again bettered his world's record and the New York team finally won the pennant, however, not by reason of his home run hitting, but owing to the misfortunes of the Cleveland team; and that it lost the World's Series was largely due to Ruth's failure to measure up to form and expectation in that classic event.

Then came the famous "barnstorming" episode, in which Ruth defied both the laws of the game and Commissioner Landis, for which he drew a five weeks' suspension at the start of the 1922 season-- which marked the beginning of the end for Ruth. That five weeks' suspension was fatal to Ruth for the reason it prevented his proper development in condition and skill which comes only by participation in games; precluded all chance of equaling or making a new home run record this season, owing to his manifest decadence in batting; enabled other players to step into the home run picture, and demonstrated conclusively that he was not necessary to the New York team, as it jumped into and maintained the lead long before Ruth and Meusel rejoined it, and lost the lead not long after these two worthies got into the game, owing to the futility of their batting.

All this led to enormous shrinkage of Ruth's popularity with the fans, particularly of New York, many of whom turned from adulation to derision. The press, too, turned largely against the fallen idol--all of which had its effect upon a man of Ruth's limited intelligence, variable temperament, and colossal egotism, and undoubtedly led to his senseless rows with umpires, for which he has been properly disciplined by President Johnson, who threatens to repeat the dose, upon similar provocation, until Ruth either behaves or gets out. . .

In this event the brief reign of Babe Ruth, though highly profitable to the New York Club, will be memorable only for its evil effect upon the sport as a whole, as his constant exploitation as a home run hitter stimulated a home run craze in both public and players that led to temporary abandonment of scientific play; and militated vastly against team work and discipline; and, worst of all, made a popular hero of a specialty player who lacks every qualification of a truly great player." (Sporting News, July 6, 1922, Casual Comment column)
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Followup piece by same writer, Mr. Francis Charles Richter.

(Sporting News, October 4, 1923, pp. 4, column 5, Casual Comment column)

"One of the biggest factors in the complete reversal of the Yankee team form was Babe Ruth, who amply made good his promise of reform made last winter, while still smarting under the ignominy of his pitifully inadequate World Series showing. This reformation, consistently carried out, embraced both conduct on & off the field and general play. His general conduct has been exemplary, not containing even one rebuke, while his entire method of play has been both revolutionized and his conception of his place in and duties to the scene of baseball has been changed and vastly enlarged. Ruth has become traceable, obedient to his manager's slightest wish, and a team player of the first rank, always willing to subordinate himself to the common good."

"Instead of confining himself to his former specialty of home run hitting (He hit 41 in '23) -- Ruth has all season resorted to every style of batting suitable to the occasion, not even excepting bunting: and consequently has proven one of the greatest batsman in the American League, running a season-long neck-and-neck race with Harry Heilmann of Detroit for the batting leadership. In addition his fielding has been both accurate and brilliant, and his base running excellent (17-21). Altogether a more striking and successful change was never witnessed in a star player between two seasons." (Sporting News, October 4, 1923, pp. 4, column 5, Casual Comment column)
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By Frances Richter, Reach AL Baseball Guide, February, 1926

------------------------A Base Ball Idol Dethroned---------------------------------------
-----------------------By the Editor of the Reach Guide----------------------------------

During the 1925 season Babe Ruth, the best advertised and most exploited base ball player of modern times, and consequently the most popular player for the time being, suffered his worst season both in health and playing skill, and toward the end of the season fell from his throne through disobedience of orders and through illness, caused in part through his regular defiance of living rules was ill for nearly two months in a New York hospital, and when he did report for duty, found his forces so much impaired that he suffered much in playing skill. His work in the field was decidedly mediocre and he fell off so greatly in batting that he fell from the pinnacle to a very mediocre place, his average for the major part of the season being about 260. But his real fall came on August 30, when on the same day that the veteran Ty Cobb was honored by the City of Detroit at a municipal dinner at which he was presented with a $10,000 check by the Detroit Club president, Ruth, Cobb's greatest rival for popularity was suspended indefinitely and fined $5,000--a record for breaches of club rules in staying out late at nights. This action was taken at the close of a Western trip and the Yankee team left for home without Ruth.

----------------------RUTH ADMITS HIS SHORTCOMINGS---------------------------------

Ruth stopped off in Chicago for the purpose of seeking Commissioner Landis' intervention n the matter of his indefinite suspension and record-breaking fine. Ruth failed to find Mr. Landis, who was at his summer home at Bent Lake, Michigan, but was advised that under the rules, Mr. Landis had no jurisdiction in the case for ten days, so Ruth decided to hurry to New York to lay his case before President Ruppert. While in Chicago, Ruth admitted that he had twice expressly violated Manager Huggins' orders while at bat, one time hitting the ball out when ordered to sacrifice, and the other time sacrificing when ordered to hit, thus willfully substituting his own judgment in violation of club rules and discipline. He also admitted having remained out an hour and a half late one night at St. Louis, but he contended that his suspension and fine -- was merely an attempt by Manager Huggins to shield his own managerial short-comings, and to make him - Ruth - the goat. Ruth charged that Huggins was an incompetent manager whose team won for three years through its internal strength and lost the pennant in 1924 by not getting the most out of the team--to all of which charges Manager Huggins refused to reply, merely pointing to Ruth's repeated refractions of league and club rules in the seasons of 1922 and 1924, and his latest escapades in 1925, all of which violated repeated promises to reform, promises which were only kept in 1923, when Ruth performed so well all season that he was voted the crown as "the most valuable player in the league."

---------------------------RUTH FORGIVEN AND REINSTATED--------------------------

When Ruth arrived in New York he made haste to lay his case before President Ruppert. To his surprise he met with a frosty reception, was reminded of his serious breeches of club rules in the past and was told his reinstatement was entirely up to Manager Huggins, with whom he would have to make his peace, else the indefinite suspension would continue. This plainly showed Ruth just where and how he stood and he at once decided to make overtures to Manager Huggins for reconciliation and reinstatement. He sought Manager Huggins after a game, apologized for his criticism of the manager, and asked pardon for his breeches of club rules, promising complete reformation if reinstated. Manager Huggins therefore shook hands with Ruth in forgiveness of his personal criticism and promised to take the matter of reinstatement under consideration. After letting Ruth sweat for several days Manager Huggins reinstated Ruth, on September 7, but according to all accounts the record fine of $5,000 was not remitted. In justice to Ruth, it must be admitted that for the balance of the season he played good ball and also showed such improvement in batting that by the end of the season it was .293--an improvement of thirty point over his mid-season batting. Ruth has undoubtedly been one of the greatest drawing cards in all of the history of the game, and in spite of the big pay he has received has probably been a good investment for his employers. His future depends largely upon himself. If he has "gone back" for good, the fickle public will soon be looking for some one to take his place. But if he has the ability and the desire to shine again both his employers and the patrons of the game are likely to be indulgent. The moral of it, however, is that if you want to succeed you have to be on the job constantly.

--------------------LOST FORTUNE THROUGH IRRESPONSIBILITY--------------------------
In an article in "Collier's Weekly," Ruth, after his reinstatement estimated that through extravagances and follies he had lost a large-sized fortune. Ruth, in his narrative recounts his "missteps" and really tremendous losses through gambling, ill-starred business ventures and in fighting legal suits, all of which he figures at $250,000 besides an equal amount estimated to have gone to "high living, parties, charities, gifts, etc." Once, he admits, he lost $35,000 on a single horse race. Ruth also disclosed that as early as 1922 Miller Huggins, manager of the New York Yankees fined him $9,000 for "continued violation of training rules, culminating in a wet party on Broadway." But the fine was later rescinded because Ruth was "riding the crest of one of my inspired batting streaks, hitting a homer almost every day." This was not known generally, late last season, when Ruth was fined $5,000 by Huggins for "misconduct off the field," while the Yankees were in St. Louis. "I have been the sappiest of saps", he adds. "But I'm going to make good all over again." As evidence of his intention to come back, Ruth, after finishing a hunting trip in the north woods, plans to go to St. Petersburg, Fla., the Yankees training camp, then to visit Hot Springs before joining his teammates in Florida for the regular conditioning grind.
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To the Memory of Frances Richter: John B. Foster Gives Estimate of Late Writer:
Veteran Historian and Authority Loved His Baseball and Wrote It with Understanding and Spirit. (Sporting News, February 25, 1926, pp. 6, col. 6-7.)

The following is a communication from John B. Foster, editor of the Spalding Guide, and one of the best known of the older chroniclers of baseball affairs in New York. It is a personal appraisement of the character and genuineness of Frances C. Richter, veteran baseball writer and historian of Philadelphia, who died the other day. Foster knew Richter intimately, knew his high ideals and purposes and knew his value and source to the game.

"I beg the courtesy of the columns of The Sporting News to express my personal grief over the death of Frances C. Richter, founder and editor of Sporting Life until it passed into the graveyard of newspaper enterprises. Francis C. Richter was one of the constructive geniuses of baseball with the pen. In the past 30 years we have had many commentators on baseball, some of them sincere, some purely frivolous, some penetrating, some shallow, some quick of perception, some not so keen, some prophetic, some fatalists.

"How could it be otherwise with all manner of men writing of baseball, and men thrown into the position of critics of baseball at the behest of managing editors who, because of the success of humorous and cynical writers--few of whom ever kept up the task very long--were imbued with the idea that baseball was closely related to the comic valentine, hence governed themselves accordingly.

-------------------------------------Game Close to Richter's Heart-----------------------------------------------------------------
"Richter was none of these. He loved baseball and he wrote baseball from the standpoint of the man who has found what a game really is. He permitted all manner of criticism to enter into the columns of his publication, if it were not libelous, even though at variance with his own opinions, and thus he helped the game of baseball mightily. His own personality was against destructive criticism, yet he conceded that out of the preaching of the opportunist there might come good for the stability of the sport.

"It was the custom in years gone by to predict from season to season that there would be 'no next season.' Often men who enjoyed the game of baseball would express their doubt as to its future. Again and again I heard some of them say--'How much longer will it last?' That was in the 'eighties' and if at that time some one had said there would be 50,000 spectators to see a ball game in the next quarter century, there have been doubts as to his sanity. even as late as the 'nineties' a statement made by the late Albert G. Spalding that 75,000 persons would soon see a ball game, which was made to me in the course of conversation, was ridiculed by the pessimists. Yet, Spalding was right. The 75,000 mark has not been actually reached, but if there were 100,000 seats available they could be sold, not only for World's Series games, but for occasional holiday games.

"Francis C. Richter was always of this group of firm believers in baseball future. He commented caustically at times and he wielded a pen that could put the truth home with a sharp point. However bitter his criticism might seem to be there was behind it a fight for the game of baseball itself and it was that surface cynicism of the writer who deals in personalities. A field of personalities is always easiest in which to volunteer as a commentator.

"When baseball needed the enforcement of certain regulations that had been forced upon it, because of its growth and its unexpected evolution as a magnet for the non-player, Richter was foremost in fighting for them.

"He entered losing battles when he essayed to play league politics and fight for separation of organizations, and the entry of newer organizations, but I have been told that he was forced into this condition by the business policy of his office management, which shifted its affiliation, if that is the better way to put it, and which erred grossly because it was this which ultimately led to the downfall of Sporting Life. The stability of the paper as an organ of baseball was undermined by the intervention of the business office and in his later days Richter deplored with sad words the end of one of the best newspapers devoted strictly to the game that had been introduced into current affairs.

-------------------------------------------GRACED WITH BROAD VISION-------------------------------------------------------
"When the American Association and the National League were amalgamated into a 12-club league in 1891, there were but two writers of those in the United States who knew every move that was being made from the first approach of the National League to absorb its rival, and one of the two was Richter. It was he who worked with the committee of the National League to prove to Von Der Ahe of St. Louis, that it would be better to weld the circuits into one. Richter was present when the final step was taken.

"He was a good student of baseball rules and it was largely through his insistence and splendid presentation of argument that the pitching distance was increased to 60 feet, six inches, although there were many who thought he was quite wrong. Even the pitchers thought so, but they shortly found out they could pitch better at the long distance than at the short, as their curves broke better for them.

"Almost without exception, as I recall it, Richter was right in anything which had to do with development of the game, per se, but some of us differed with his opinions about what is known as baseball politics. Whatever baseball politics may be, they have never been able to harm the pastime from tits standpoint, of good to man, although they have played a disastrous hand more than once to promoters of baseball clubs who have ventured into the sport with the idea that it is something which gains large earnings even if there is poor judgment in administration and complete lack of knowledge as to the requirements.

"Various men are designated as this and that in baseball. Some of them are entitled to the fine tributes that have been paid to them, yet I doubt if any one of them ever did as much and certainly not more, for baseball, when the game really needed support most of all, than Francis C. Richter.
---------------------------------------------Saw the Sport of the Thing------------------------------------------------------

"Those who are modern to the game have no conception of some of the early handicaps that attended it." Owners of baseball clubs, to a great extent in formative days, supported the clubs purely from the standpoint of local pride and at loan to themselves.' The local idea of a ball club was far different from that of the present era. The enthusiasts of baseball were so loyal to the game that time and again they subscribed to the support of a losing team, hoping for better results, but above everything desirous of retaining the club in the city which it represented. Men were out of pocket season after season merely because they realized that joy which men have in dabbling in anything that pertains to athletics.

"When baseball needed encouragement and assistance in moments of that period of the national game's existence, Richter elaborated not the need of money, but the good of baseball and interested other men and still others in it. A later generation began to comment of baseball, not as a game but as something placarded with the dollar mark, because it is easier to dabble with figures than it is to go to a ball game and see how it is played and why it is won.

"The huge sum received for World Series contests have had their share in change opinion. A game over-financed in reputation will sere quicker than one which is fresh with the thrill of its own performance.

"Francis Richter lived baseball and for baseball. Glory to his memory! It was not a joke to him, not the butt of a lapper, but something which had to do with the inner life of the youth of the United States, and he fought for it because of the splendid sentiment which was created on the fields of Philadelphia where they played baseball for the sport of a wonderful pastime and cherished its memories as no other city cherishes them. They are then today, some of those old fellows, some of the pioneers, with the same fondness for the national pastime, and always had and the same delight in recalling the fun which they accomplished when they were younger.

"Richter had courage and he had conviction. He fought losing battles, but he fought them with a fertile mind that brought argument to defend his position. He was a good loser, too, and accepted the inevitable with the resignation of a man who hopes to be justified by the future and feels that he has been sincere in the present." (Sporting News, February 25, 1926. Mr. Richter died on February 12, 1926. He had hosted a Sporting News column, tittled 'Casual Comment', largely dealing with the administrative side of the game, from December 15, 1921 - summer, 1925.)
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----------Frances Richter/Taylor Spink: 1912 World Series
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Sultan_1895-1948
05-05-2006, 04:40 AM
Wes Fisler, Philadelphia Athletics 1B, 1874,--- BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/f/fislewe01.shtml)------------------Tim Murnane, 1874 1B---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/murnati01.shtml)
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Sultan_1895-1948
05-05-2006, 04:42 AM
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Bill Burgess
05-06-2006, 09:10 PM
Martin Bergen, Boston C---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/bergema01.shtml)-- Bill Burgess' write-up (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1253432&postcount=74)
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RedSoxVT92
05-06-2006, 09:29 PM
Connie Mack, 1887 Washington Nationals---Player, BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mackco01.shtml)--- Manager, BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/mackco01.shtml)
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sadiemae
05-11-2006, 06:54 PM
Hugh Jenning "EE-YAH"---Player Record (http://www.baseball-reference.com/j/jennihu01.shtml)---Manager Record (http://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/jennihu01.shtml)
----------------------------------------1910--------------------------------------------------------------------------1914
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-----------------------------------1915---------------------------------------------------------------Giants' coach, 1923-25
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--------------------------1907
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E.Banks#14
05-16-2006, 08:53 PM
Tommy McCarthy, Boston Reds, 1884---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mccarto01.shtml)
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Arthur Irwin/Tommy McCarthy: Philadelphia Quakers: 1886-88
"An 'action' shot in 1887 is spoiled by the figures idling in the background. Hands on hip is pitcher James Devlin, who will be next in front of the camera. Arthur Irwin of Philadelphia is making the "putout." Nowadays the slider would be busy dumping Irwin on his pants."
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E.Banks#14
05-16-2006, 08:58 PM
Jack Clements, Philadelphia Quakers C, 1884-1889---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/clemeja01.shtml)
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Bill Burgess
05-22-2006, 10:38 PM
Jack Glasscock--------------------------Jack Glasscock---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/glassja01.shtml)--------------Charlie Buffinton, Phillies---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/buffich01.shtml)
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2 Shots of Charlie Buffinton
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Bill Burgess
05-22-2006, 10:39 PM
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Bill Burgess
05-22-2006, 10:40 PM
--------------------Tim Keefe----------------------------------------------Tim Keefe----BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/k/keefeti01.shtml)
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Bill Burgess
05-22-2006, 10:46 PM
Bill Burgess' Lange write-up (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1253431&postcount=73)---Bill Lange Bullpen (http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Bill_Lange)

Bill Lange, Chicago White Stockings CF, 1893-99,---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/langebi01.shtml)--------------Dummy Hoy, 1888-89, 1892-93, Washington of the NL, OF--BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/h/hoydu01.shtml)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Bill Lange's October 14, 1918 passport photo.
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Bill Burgess
05-22-2006, 10:59 PM
Ned Hanlon-----Player BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/h/hanlone01.shtml) -----Manager BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/hanlone01.shtml)-------------------------------Detroit CF, 1881-88.
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Silver King, Chicago of Players League------------------------------------------------------Candy Cummings (Right),
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Bill Burgess
05-22-2006, 11:06 PM
Sam Thompson, 1889-98, Phil--- BB Ref (http://www.baseball-reference.com/t/thompsa01.shtml)----------Wilbert Robinson---Player BB Ref (http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/robinwi01.shtml)---Manager BB Ref (http://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/robinwi01.shtml)
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Bill Burgess
05-22-2006, 11:09 PM
--Ed McKean, 1887-'98, Cleveland SS----------------Pete Browning, LF/CF, 1882-'89, 1892-'93
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Twinsboy_34
06-05-2006, 03:02 PM
Sports Writers:
Tim H. Murnane, Jacob C. Morse,
Francis C. Richter, Charles C. Spink,
Ren J. Mulford, Jr., Henry G. Merrill
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Bill Burgess
06-12-2006, 07:45 AM
1899 Boston Beaneaters: 95-57, .625, 2nd Place--- BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BSN/1899.shtml)

Standing: L-R: Charles 'Kid' Nichols (P), Bill Clarke, Frank Killen (P), Vic Willis (P), Marty Bergen (C), Ted Lewis (P), Charlie Hickman (P).

Middle row: L-R: Fred Tenney (1B), Jimmy Collins (3B), Jim 'General' Stafford (CF), Frank Selee (Mgr.), Hugh Duffy (RF), Billy Hamilton (CF), Herman Long (SS).

Seated on Ground: L-R: Bobby Lowe (2B), Charles 'Chick' Stahl (RF)
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1874 Boston Red Stockings: NA Champions: 58-18, .743, 1st Place---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BOS/1874.shtml)

Top Row: L-R: Cal McVey (RF), Albert G. Spalding (P), James 'Deacon' White (C), Ross Barnes (2B).

Seated: L-R: Jim O'Rourke (1B), Tommy Beals (2B/RF), Harry Wright (CF), Harry Schafer (3B), Andy Leonard (LF).

Sitting on Ground: L-R: George Wright (SS), George Hall (LF/CF).
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Bill Burgess
06-12-2006, 07:47 AM
1882 Chicago White Stockings----BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHC/1882.shtml)---(White Stockings became known as Chicago Cubs in 1900.)

Cap Anson, Michael 'King' Kelly, Ned Williamson, George Gore, Larry Corcoran.
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Bill Burgess
06-12-2006, 07:50 AM
1887 Detroit Wolverines---79-45, .637, 3.5 g ahead-----BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/DTN/1887.shtml)

Standing Top: L-R: Charlie Bennett (C), Dan Brouthers (1B), Sam Thompson (RF), Charlie Ganzell (catcher), Larry Twitchell (OF/P), Charles B. 'Lady' Baldwin (P),

Sitting: L-R: Fatty Briody (catcher), Fred Dunlap (2B), Bill Watkins (Mgr.), James 'Deacon' White (3B), Ned Hanlon (CF), Billy Shindle (3B), Charlie Getzein (P),

Seated on ground: L-R: Jack Rowe (SS), George 'Stump' Weidman (P), Hardy Richardson (LF)
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Bill Burgess
06-12-2006, 07:54 AM
1884 New York Gothams: 62-50, .554, 4th place, 22 games behind---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYG/1884.shtml)

Top Row, L-R: Monte Ward (CF/2B/P), unidentified - Frank Hankinson (3B), Roger Connor (2B), unidentified, unidentified, unidentified, Mike Dorgan (RF/P), Buck Ewing (C).

Bottom Row, L-R: Danny Richardson (OF/SS), Mickey Welch (P), unidentified, unidentified.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Image29.jpg

Bill Burgess
06-12-2006, 07:57 AM
1889 New York Giants; ---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYG/1889.shtml)

Includes:Tim Keefe, Mickey Welch, Buck Ewing, Ed Crane, Roger Connor, George Gore, J. O'Rourke, Hank O'Day, A. Whitney, M. Tiernan, J. Ward.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/89team.jpg

Bill Burgess
06-12-2006, 07:59 AM
1899 Cleveland Spiders, 20-134, .130, 12th place (last), 84 games behind ---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CLV/1899.shtml)
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/1899clevelandspiders.jpg

----------1898 Cleveland Spiders, 81-68, .544, 5th place, 21 g behind---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CLV/1898.shtml)
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Image2-6.jpg

Bill Burgess
06-12-2006, 08:01 AM
Billy Sunday, Chicago White Stockings (Cubs), CF, 1883-87:
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Image47-2.jpg

Ossee Schreckengost, Boston C, 1901---BB Ref (http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/schreos01.shtml)---Both shots are of Ossee.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Bills%20Rare%20Photo%20Finds/Image17-3.jpg

Baseball Guru
07-22-2006, 09:47 PM
1882 Providence Grays; 52-32, .619, 2nd place, 3 games behind--- BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/PRO/1882.shtml)

Standing: L-R: Paul Hines (CF), Tom York (LF), Charlie 'Old Hoss' Radbourn (P), Charlie Reilly (C).

Middle Row: L-R: Jerry Denny (3B), George Wright (SS), Harry Wright (Mgr.), Joe Start (1B), John Ward (RF).

Seated on floor: L-R: Barney Gilligan (SS), Jack Farrell (2B), Sandy Nava (RF)
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Image27-2.jpg
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/1879.jpg
Hines is standing for left
Radbourne is standing second from right
Start is seated on Harry Wright's right.
George Wright is to Harry's left
Ward is far right middle row.

Baseball Guru
07-22-2006, 09:48 PM
Bob Ferguson, Infielder--------BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/f/fergubo01.shtml)
http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/bob-ferguson-1878.jpg

Baseball Guru
07-22-2006, 09:49 PM
Brooklyn Excelsiors circa 1860 (left to right): Raynolds, Whiting, Creighton (holding ball), Polhemus, Pearsall, Russell, Leggett, Brainard, and Flanly.
http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/brooklyn-excelsiors-1860.jpg

Baseball Guru
07-23-2006, 07:21 AM
Cool name (Noodles):D

Inducted into the Cincinnati Reds Hall of Fame in 1963---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/h/hahnno01.shtml)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2f/Noodles_Hahn.jpg/510px-Noodles_Hahn.jpg

Bill Burgess
08-13-2006, 11:44 AM
Guy Hecker, P---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/h/heckegu01.shtml)---------------------------Ted Breitenstein, P, BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/breitte01.shtml)
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Image24-3.jpg

rsuriyop
09-11-2006, 07:13 PM
He might have really done it intentionally. Here's another shot of him using the same gesture in a different photo:

Polo Grounds, April 29, 1886; Boston/New York players
Charlie (Old Hoss) Radbourne (Top, far left, giving the finger); Buck Ewing (Top, 4th fr. R).
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Polo20Grounds2C20April20292C2018862.jpg
Not exactly sure what's up with him and this habbit of his...

Bill Burgess
10-01-2006, 08:04 PM
Sam Crane, Washington 2B, 1987---BB Reference
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Image19-4.jpg

Bill Burgess
10-08-2006, 07:06 PM
Baseball Owners, February 26-27, 1897, Hotel Rennert, Baltimore.

National League club owners and officials gather in February of 1897 for a conference on the Rusie situation.

Delegates to the Schedule Meeting of the National League and American Association of Base Ball Clubs. Held at the Hotel Rennert, Baltimore, February 25th-27th, 1897.

Top, L-R: E.E. Becker, Chris Von Der Ahe, Edward (Ned) Hanlon, Frank DeHass Robison, H.R. Von Der Horst, Jason A. Hart, J.W. Spalding, Harry M. Pulliam, Dr. T. Hunt Stucky, Col. J.L. Rogers.

Bottom, L-R: John T. Brush, Alfred James Reach, F.A. Abell, Nick E. Young, I. E. Wagner, Stanley Robison, C.H. Byrne.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Image2-7.jpg

Bill Burgess
10-17-2006, 03:43 PM
1896 Baltimore Orioles: 89-39 .695, 3 games ahead---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BLN/1894.shtml)

Top: L-R: Joe Quinn (2B), Sadie McMahon (P), Duke Esper (P), George Hemming (P), Frank Bowerman (C), Boileryard Clarke (C), Jim Donnelly (3B).

Middle: L-R: Steve Brodie (CF), Bill Hoffer (P), Joe Kelley (LF), Ned Hanlon (Mgr.), Wilbert Robinson (C), Hughie Jennings (SS), Heinie Reitz (2B).

Bottom: L-R: Jack Doyle (1B), John McGraw (3B), Willie Keeler (RF), Arlie Pond (P).
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/bbb.jpg
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Miscellaneous/1896_Baltimore_Orioles.jpg

L-R: Willie Keeler, Hugh Jennings, Joe Kelly, John McGraw
The man in black is Tom Murphy, the Orioles groundskeeper and "secret weapon,"
who tailored the infield to suit the Orioles's tactical style.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Image5-5.jpg

1899 Baltimore Orioles, 86-62, .581, 4th, 15 g back--- BB-Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BLN/1899.shtml)

Top Row: L-R:Jerry Nops (P), Joe McGinnity (P), Pat Crisham (C), George LaChance (1B), Harry Howell (P), Frank Kitson (P).

Middle Row: L-R:Ducky Holmes (LR), Alex Smith (C), Walter Steve Brodie (CF), John J. McGraw (3B), Wilbert Robinson (C), Charlie Harris (3B), Steve McKenna (P).

Bottom Row: L-R: Dave Fultz (OF/3B), Gene DeMontreville (2B), Billy Keister (SS).
Missing: Jimmy Sheckard (RF).
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Balt_2020Orioles11.jpg

Nashvol
12-03-2006, 05:07 AM
http://www.sulphurdell.com/Nashville%20Americans.jpg

Bill Burgess
12-23-2006, 07:57 PM
Bobby Lowe, 2B---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/lowebo01.shtml)----------------Boston Nationals' 2B, 1890-1901
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Image21-1-1.jpg

Bill Burgess
01-19-2007, 04:58 PM
------Charles Comiskey, 1B
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Image23-1.jpg

Bill Burgess
01-22-2007, 09:26 PM
--------------------------------1885 Chicago White Stockings

Top Row: L-R: George Gore (LF), Silver Flint (C), Cap Anson (Mgr./1B), Jim McCormick (P), Mike 'King' Kelly (RF/C), Fred Pfeffer (2B).

Bottom Row: L-R: Jimmy Ryan (SS), Ned Williamson (SS), Abner Dalrymple (CF), Tom Burns (3B), Jim Clarkson (P), Billy Sunday (substitute).
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Image28-2.jpghttp://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/1885ChicagoWhiteStockings.jpg

Williamsburg2599
01-23-2007, 04:08 PM
---Lee Richmond, P--BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/richmle01.shtml)
(Worchester Ruby Legs)-Thrower of the first pefect game in ML History.

http://www.brown.edu/Facilities/University_Library/exhibits/sports/early/richmond1880.gif

Bill Burgess
03-13-2007, 06:17 PM
Clark Griffith: Pitcher
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Image25-1.jpg

Bill Burgess
04-06-2007, 12:09 PM
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E.Banks#14
06-03-2007, 06:05 PM
Steve, I did a quick search for photos of Tip on the Library of Congress website and came across a few, although I'm not sure if any are of the Tip that you're looking for.

This is what my search returned: click here (http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/f?mcc,gottscho,detr,nfor,wpa,aap,cwar,bbpix,cowell bib,calbkbib,consrvbib,bdsbib,dag,fsaall,gmd,pan,v v,presp,varstg,suffrg,nawbib,horyd,wtc,toddbib,mgw ,ncr,ngp,musdibib,hlaw,papr,lhbumbib,rbpebib,lbcol l,alad,hh,aaodyssey,magbell,bbcards,dcm,raelbib,ru nyon,dukesm,lomaxbib,mtj,gottlieb,aep,qlt,coolbib, fpnas,aasm,scsm,denn,relpet,amss,aaeo,mffbib,afc91 1bib,mjm,mnwp,rbcmillerbib,molden,ww2map,mfdipbib, afcnyebib,hawp,omhbib,rbaapcbib,mal,ncpsbib,ncpm,l hbprbib,ftvbib,afcreed,aipn,cwband,flwpabib,wpapos ,cmns,psbib,pin,coplandbib,cola,tccc,curt,mharendt ,lhbcbbib,eaa,haybib,mesnbib,fine,cwnyhs,svybib,mm orse,afcwwgbib,mymhiwebib,uncall,afcwip,mtaft,manz ,llstbib,fawbib,berl,fmuever,cdn,upboverbib,mussm, cic,afcpearl,awh,awhbib,sgp,wright,lhbtnbib,afcesn bib,hurstonbib,mreynoldsbib,spaldingbib,sgproto:0: ./temp/~ammem_pbgy:)

I think these two may be what you're looking for:
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25268

Bill Burgess
07-14-2007, 12:38 PM
1897 Boston Beaneaters:

Top Row: L-R: Jim Sullivan, Jake Stivetts, Bob Allen, Charles Ganzel, Fred Klobedanz, Ted Lewis, Fred Lake.

Middle Row: L-R: Herman Long, Kid Nichols, George Yeager, Frank Selee (manager), Hugh Duffy (captain), Fred Tenney, Billy Hamilton.

Bottom Row: L-R: Jimmy Collins, Chick Stahl, Bobby Lowe.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/1897boston20beaneaters.jpg
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1890 Boston Nationals: 76-57, .571, 5th place---BB Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BSN/1890.shtml)

Top row: L-R: James "Chippy" McGarr (IF), Harry Staley (P), Patsy Donovan (CF), Charles Ganzel (utility), William Joyce (3B), William Daley (P), Tommy Tucker (1B).

Middle row: L-R: Kid Nichols (P), Herman Long (SS), Charles Bennett (C), Frank Selee (Mgr.), John Clarkson (P), Jim Whitney (P), Steve Brodie (RF).

Bottom Row: L-F: Bobby Lowe (SS/CF/3B), Paul Revere Radford (utility), Tom Brown (OF).
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Boston2520Nationals2520-25201890.jpg

Bill Burgess
07-14-2007, 12:41 PM
Boston Beaneaters Infield:

Considered by some the best infield of the 19th Century, clockwise from
Top: Fred Tenney (1B), Right: Herman Long (SS), Bottom: Jimmy Collins (3B) and Left: Bobby Lowe (2B). (Boston Public Library)
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/2350713424_8e7a163c44_o.jpg

Bill Burgess
07-14-2007, 01:27 PM
Baltimore Orioles, In Civilian clothes: Top: Willie Keeler/John McGraw. Bottom: Joe Kelley/Hughie Jennings.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/2350719648_271b26fdce_o.jpg
I like it,
Your friend

Bill Burgess
07-19-2007, 08:07 PM
Western League Magnates: 1890s

CHICAGO - C.1890. Team owners from the Western League pose together in Chicago during the 1890s to discuss their business.

Top Row: L-R: Allen, M.R. Killilea, Connie Mack, Charlie Comiskey, Gus Schmelz.

Bottom Row: Tom Loftus, M.J. O'Brien, Ban Johnson (league President), Jack Manning, G. Vanderbeek, C. H. Saulpaugh.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Image27-3.jpg

Bill Burgess
08-18-2007, 01:32 PM
Freddie Parent, Boston SS, 1902
27692
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Image12-3.jpg

George H Ruth
04-20-2008, 03:26 PM
I apologize if these have been posted before, I didn't have time to look through them since I'm in a gurry right now. So Bill if they've been posted please delete them, since you already have them. If not then I hope you guys enjoy them, as I do.

Albert G Spalding
http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/albert-goodwill-spalding.jpg

http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.org/dressed_to_the_nines/pictures/stockings_red.jpg

http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/19th-century-baseball-player.jpg

http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/unidentified-baseball-team-photo-1878.jpg

Trinity College Baseball Team, 1885
http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/trinity-college-baseball-team-1885.jpg

http://www.antiqueathlete.com/vintage-baseball-tintype-photograph.jpg

http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/young-america-base-ball-club.jpg

Albert G. Spalding
http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/albert-g-spalding-pitcher-boston.jpg

George H Ruth
04-20-2008, 03:33 PM
Philadelphia Baseball team
http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/philadelphia-baseball-team.jpg

Albert Spalding
http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/a-g-spalding-hitting.jpg

Albert Spalding and undenified person
http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/a-g-spalding-bat.jpg

Jim Creighton
http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/jim-creighton.jpg

Austin Hayes 1871
http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/baseball-player-circa-1870.jpg

http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/player-with-gloves.jpg

Brooklyn Excelsiors
http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/brooklyn-excelsiors-1860.jpg

http://www.19cbaseball.com/images/unknown-player.jpg

http://pages.prodigy.net/scottfiesthumel/image1.gif

Bill Burgess
11-14-2008, 10:49 PM
1887. Rare glimpse of the early game. When gloves were for sissies.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/1887.jpg

Bill Burgess
02-24-2009, 03:10 PM
In case anyone is interested in where some of these wonderful images came from, here are some links.

Spalding Collection (http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchresult.cfm?parent_id=137159&word=) (The New York City Library)

Boston Public Library (http://flickr.com/search/?q=baseball&w=24029425%40N06)

Bill Burgess
08-28-2009, 11:43 AM
---------------------------Jim Whitney, P-----------------------------------------------------Pop Snyder, C
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/19th%20Century%20Photographic%20Archive/Image17-4.jpg

Bill Burgess
08-28-2009, 11:43 AM
------Buck Ewing Studio Photograph
----------Notice bat hitting ball.

I would be willing to bet that ball was penciled in or actually stuck to the bat. I doubt the technology allowed for a fast enough shutter speed to catch the bat without it being blurred.
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Bill
In these studio photos, the studio hung the ball from a string on the ceiling. The 'grass' was a shag rug, and the background was a canvass backdrop that was hung and unfurled from the ceiling.

Also notice how black the ball is in the photo in post #8, with Ned Williamson. The ball on the ground looks absolutely blackened. Might be typical of that era. Resembles a metal shot put more than a baseball.

Good eye, RS.

(Baseball Uniforms of the 20th Century: The Official ML BB Guide, Researched, Illustrated & Writeen by Marc Okkonen." This is how I date all my pictures, using that book.
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beisbolcrazy22
Boy, this site is amazing.
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runningshoes53
It's a great site, but it's our members who make it amazing.
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csh19792001
BTW- Thank you for taking the time to share all of these pictures with us. It's been a real treat.
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CTaka
Also notice how black the ball is in the photo in post #3, with Ned Williamson. The ball on the ground looks absolutely blackened. Might be typical of that era. Resembles a metal shot put more than a baseball.
When I was in Cooperstown a few years ago, I bought a replica of the ball used during the town ball days of the 1860's. I don't know if the ball used in 1877 was similar, but my replica ball has a brown cover. In appearance, it looks similar to that dark ball in the Willilamson photo. It is soft, actually very soft, and I could imagine that a couple of whacks of the bat could easily flatten one side of the ball. Can't imagine being able to hit that soft, smooshy thing hard enough to drive it 400 feet, or anywhere close to that.
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Bill, I appreciate the response. Thanks, I will give your recommendation a try. Boy, this site is amazing.
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Hoyfan; May 5, 2006, 10:20 AM
Glorious gallery!
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A fabulous bunch of photos, including some I've never before seen in the books!

Regarding the studio-shot ball that appears to be pasted to the bat or painted in: I do know that in the the Old Judge tobacco-card images showing players fielding fly balls, the ball was actually suspended from the ceiling by a string. This expedient may have been employed in the batting images too.

Ironically, at the time these studio shots were being made with primitive camera setups and slow exposures, Eadweard Muybridge was busily engaged in his famous locomotion experiments (animal and human) with a battery of cameras and quick exposures. He included sequences of a nude man batting, but I don't know if the man was a major-leaguer or not.
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Buzzaldrin; May 6, 2006, 03:42 AM
Great stuff, especially the Detroit champs. I can't read the writing under the picture- which one is Sam Thompson?
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TRfromBR; February 5, 2007, 05:44 AM
Awesome thread, Bill.
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gehrig619; March 21, 2007, 08:06 AM
Great stuff
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I love this thread. Do you guys just post images of Professional players and teams? To me the local clubs and leagues had more to do with the formation of base ball and its culture.

Would I be able to post some of those images and data?

Thanks
Grit
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SABR Steve; 05-04-2007, 07:15 AM
great thread

You do a great job

SABR Steve: 07-28-2007, 11:59 AM
Thanks for the kind words, but it's you that deserves all the credit for this great thread. I love old photos of all kinds and will study them till I get eye strain. (or till my wife tells me that's enough screen time for the day)
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adio: 08-24-2007, 03:43 AM
these are really awesome pics.
Baltimore Orioles, In Civilian clothes: Top: Willie Keeler/John McGraw. Bottom: Joe Kelley/Hughie Jennings.I like it,
Your friend
Great collection of photos, Bill. Incredible.
Magnificent...to have been a player...the poetry, romance, beauty, and savagery of the era...thank you all for keeping the game and the men who played it alive and vital.
Dear Bill:
Amen!...as a kid, I always wnted to be a nineteenth century ball player,
a World War I flying ace, or a silent movie actor...in that order!

Many Thanks,
Chris
Dear Bill:

A spectacular collection as well as resource. My favorite, among many favorites is "1887 - Rare glimpse of the early game..."

Have any of you ever looked into the possibility of joining one of the vintage baseball leagues? "Smithsonian Magazine" ran a detailed article about them several years ago (around 1998 or so). I believe "vintage baseball teams" also has a web site.

Regards,

Chris

DinoPro
10-07-2009, 11:35 AM
Hi, I am a vintage collector of the 50's & 60's. I did find ( in my collection ) these two old cards ( minor league I'm guessing ). Anyone have any info on
these 2 old relic's? Thanks, DInoPro