1962 Free Agent Auction

[leecemark]

--Bidding on Premium Free Agents begins at midnight EST tonight. It will conclude at 11PM EST tomorrow night (March 31). The players on the auction block are;
Mickey Mantle
Rocky Colavito
Frank Howard
Jim O'Toole
Zolio Versalles
Luis Aparicio
Jack Kralick
Don McMahan
Ron Hansen
--Minimum bid is 250K and all bids must be in increments divisable by that amount. Maximum bid is whatever you have left in cap room. You may bid on multiple players per post up until the last hour, when bids will be restricted to one player per post.
--At no time can your combined bids exceed your available cap space. If you do exceed your cap space your highest bid will be disallowed (that is the player you bid the most on will be lost). You will also face a 5M cap reduction for 1963. If more than one bid has to be rescinded to get you under the cap, the penalty will be 5M for each.
--A player for whom the winning bid must be disallowed will be offered to the owner who made the second highest bid. If they either no longer have the cap space or interest that player will shift over to the secondary free agent market.
--The secondary market will open at midnight tomorrow after winners in the PFA are announced. It will close at 11PM EST on Monday, April 3. Same rules for bidding apply A list of unsigned players available in that auction is attached.
--Free Agents may, and in some cases must, be offered multi-year deals. Any bid of 8M or more will get a contract of 3 years minimum/5 years maximum length (owners option). Bids between 5-7.75M may be signed to 2 min/4 max deals. Winnings bids below 5M have a min/max contract legnth of 1-3 years.

[The Dude]

My clocks off, nm.

[leecemark]

--Guess it doesn't hurt to dream Wil.
--The Knights open the Mantle bidding at 10.25M.

[leecemark]

--I think its the site clock, not yours. Go ahead and repost your bids. The site clock will be the official one at the close of the auction even though its apparently off.

[leecemark]

--Just to remain with the letter of the law, Mantle 10.25 for the Knights.

[The Dude]

Yeah, I was second guessing those.

Gamblers bid on Frank Howard:9 Million
Gamblers bid on Jim O'Toole: 3 Million

[Nails]

Quaker bid the following:

OF Frank Howard - $10 million
OF Rocky Colavito - $10 million

BTW, is anyone able to make final bids for me tonight? I won't be around at 11 tonight.

[mac195]

Mark, if you have a list of teams with number of players signed, and total salary, maybe you could post it in this thread so we can all keep track.

[The Dude]

Frank Howard: 12 Million

[538280]

Don McMahon 1 mil
Zolio Versalles 1 mil
Mickey Mantle 10.5 mil

[baseballPAP]

1 million on Aparicio
2 million on Versalles
11 million on Mantle

I only need 1 player but I can go over 40 and cut back down, right?
I should have near 17 million open.....I have yet to add my new guys to my official roster.

~S

[baseballPAP]

Oh, and how am I supposed to end this? I leave for work at 9:30, and don't often have a chance to get online once I go to bed around 10 AM....

[mac195]

It's pretty important that people be here for at least the last 10 minutes of the auctions. I will bid for someone if they want to send me a list of players and maximum bids, but I can't promise that I won't outbid you myself.

[mac195]

I only need 1 player but I can go over 40 and cut back down, right?
Yes. You can go over 40 during the auctions. The only hard limit is the payroll at $100 million.

[baseballPAP]

Update....I have 19 million to spend.....and by my count, a full 40 man already.

[baseballPAP]

It's pretty important that people be here for at least the last 10 minutes of the auctions. I will bid for someone if they want to send me a list of players and maximum bids, but I can't promise that I won't outbid you myself.
No way I can do that.....did anyone say 11PM before this? I don't remember reading it anywahere, but I could have missed it.

[mac195]

The schedule for the auctions, and all of the off season activities is in the 1st post of the "1961-62 Offseason Thread".

[leecemark]

--I'll be happy to make a last bid for anyone who can't be here at the finish, but this is a little different scenario than the draft. I can't promise not to outbid you myself (unless your top bid is over the 14M I have left) nor can I promise that I'll be able to keep bumping on a gradual pace down the wire. The only thing I can promise is that I'll post your limit if someone has over bid you on a player you want before the last 10 minutes.
--I have had some discussions via PM with a few owners about changing the format for the free agent auctions for next season. Sealed bids or one player at a time countdowns (for the PFAs) are both suggestions that have come up. If anyone has an idea for improving the process please bring it up for consideration in the discussion thread. Any changes would be applied next year of course.
--By my count these are current roster/salary figures;
Skipjacks 41/83.25
Gamblers 33/71.50
Hard Cider 39/73.50
Knights 39/84.75
Cannons 40/75.75
Redbirds 39/81.25
Quakers 37/77.5
Diablos 32/60.75
Legends 32/63.25
--I won't swear to the accuracy of these figures. Everyone should be tracking their own team and if I've given too low a figure here and you go over the cap these numbers won't protect you from penalties.

[leecemark]

-Mantle 11.25

[mac195]

I'll put a list of current top bids up in a couple minutes...

[mac195]

Mickey Mantle 11.25 Knights
Rocky Colavito 10.00 Quakers
Frank Howard 12.00 Gamblers
Jim O'Toole 3.00 Gamblers
Zolio Versalles 2.00 Redbirds
Luis Aparicio 1.00 Redbirds
Jack Kralick
Don McMahan 1.00 Cannons
Ron Hansen

[leecemark]

--Scott and Lew, I just sent you the updated 1962 file. Scott we differ by 1 player on your roster so look it over and let me know who I may have missed (I've got 39 and you said it should be 40).
--Let me take this opportunity to again suggest that anyone in this for the long haul would be well served to purchase the game for themselves. It would be a one time cost as I'll be buying each new season and can export the league file to you. You'll be able to view all the available reports directly and organize in to your preferences and also be able to directly access and edit your team. You'll also be able to view box scores and other info that I am not able to export as attachments. I'll never make buying the game a requirement for ownership, but IMO its money well spent.

[baseballPAP]

Mark, Gene Conley is the difference.....

Mac, noone for me after those bids I gave..... and check your PM for the trade offer....

[538280]

Versalles 3
Mantle 11.5
Hansen 1
Kralick 1
O'Toole 3.25

[catcher24]

Nails - I sent you a PM about final bids. If anyone else needs help, I'll be glad to do it. But I need more players than everyone but ElHalo, too!

[The Dude]

O.Toole: 3.75 Million

[538280]

O'Toole 4 mil

[catcher24]

Current high bids, by my calculations:
Mantle - 11.5M Cannons
Colavito - 10M Quakers
Howard - 12M Gamblers
O'Toole - 4M Cannons
Versalles - 3M Cannons
Aparicio - 1M Redbirds
Kralick - 1M Cannons
McMahon - 1M Cannons
Hansen - 1M Cannons

[catcher24]

Dude - Check your PMs.

[catcher24]

Mickey Mantle - 11.75M
Zoilo Versalles - 3.25M
Jack Kralick - 1.25M
Don McMahon - 1.25M

[mac195]

I'll be bidding for the Redbirds...

Mantle - 12.00M HC
Versalles - 3.50M Redbirds

[538280]

Kralick 1.75
McMahon 1.75
Mantle 12.5

[catcher24]

At this point, I have bids for the Gamblers and the Quakers.

[catcher24]

For the Quakers:
Frank Howard 12.25M

[catcher24]

For the Gamblers:

Jim O'Toole 4.25M

[catcher24]

Mantle 13M
Versalles 4M
Kralick 2.5M
McMahon 2.5M

[J W]

Hello all:

Hansen 1.25

edit out -- McMahon

[catcher24]

JW - I have McMahon at 2.5 already.

[J W]

O'Toole 4.5

[mac195]

Mantle 13.25 HC

Versalles 4.25 Redbirds

[538280]

Mantle 13.5

[538280]

McMahon 3 mil

[catcher24]

Mantle 15M
Versalles 4.75M

[538280]

Hansen 2 mil

[538280]

Mantle 16 mil

[catcher24]

Current High Bids:
Mantle 16M Cannons
Colavito 10M Quakers
Howard 12.25M Quakers
O'Toole 4.5M JW
Versalles 4.75M Legends
Aparicio 1M Redbirds
Kralick 2.5M Legends
McMahon 3M Cannons
Hansen 2M Cannons

[mac195]

We have a one bid per post rule in the last hour, but I think if bids are for different teams it's fine to post them together. Lew could you specify what teams you are biddiing for?

Mantle 16.25 HC

Versalles 5 RB

[538280]

Mantle 16.5

[catcher24]

Versalles 5.25M Legends

[mac195]

Mantle 16.75 HC

Versalles 5.5 RB

[The Dude]

O'Toole:5 Million

[The Dude]

Howard: 12.75

[catcher24]

Dude, you bidding for yourself now? You got a computer?

[catcher24]

Howard 13M Quakers
Versalles 6M Legends

[The Dude]

Yep, my friend has DSL sadly, not as fast as my cable, so I'm not sure how well I'm going to be down at the wire.

[catcher24]

OK. I'll just be bidding for the Quakers then from this point on.

[mac195]

versalles 6.25 RB

[catcher24]

Mantle 17M Legends

[538280]

Mantle 17.25

[catcher24]

Aparicio 1.25M Legends

[The Dude]

Howard 13.5 Million, Gamblers.

[catcher24]

Howard 14M Quakers

[mac195]

Mantle 17.5 HC (edit)

[538280]

Mantle 17.5

[catcher24]

Hansen 2.25M Legends

[J W]

Hansen 2.5

[catcher24]

Hansen 2.75 Legends

[J W]

McMahon 3.25

[J W]

Will the deadline be 4:00 by this board's time fellas?

[538280]

McMahon 3.5

[mac195]

Chris, I think I has 17.5 in there before you.

[catcher24]

4:00? What are you talking about, JW? My board clock shows 10:45!

Two bids for Mantle at 17.5 Cannons & HC

[The Dude]

Howard 14.5M Gamblers

Mine shows 9:47

[catcher24]

Howard 15.5 Quakers

[538280]

Mantle 17.75

[J W]

Oh... yep, mine says 3:45 AM (compared to 10:45 PM for you). Weird.

[catcher24]

Yeah, but I think you're central time, Dude. We're going by Eastern time, according to Mark's rules.

[J W]

O'Toole 5.5

[The Dude]

Yep, I know. Just wondering where in the world JW is right now, haha.

Howard 16M Gamblers

[catcher24]

Mantle 18M Legends

[catcher24]

Howard 16.5M Quakers

[J W]

Here we go again, sprint to the finish. :laugh

[The Dude]

These are always fun.

[mac195]

McMahon 3.75 HC

[538280]

Aparicio 1.5

[catcher24]

Aparicio 1.75M Legends

[J W]

McMahon's still too cheap. 4.0 mil.

[mac195]

McMahon 4.75 HC

[The Dude]

Last five minutes, GL everyone.

[leecemark]

Colavito 10.25

[The Dude]

O'Toole 5.75, gamblers

[catcher24]

Colavito 12M Quakers

[leecemark]

--Sorry to just arrive at the last minute. Brutally long (13 hr) workday. I skimmed thru the thread very quickly and I'm not sure if I'm caught up. Is my Colavito bid good?

[J W]

McMahon 5.0

[leecemark]

Colavito 12.25

[catcher24]

NO. Quakers bid 12M

[catcher24]

Colavito 13M Quakers

[The Dude]

Colavito 13.25 Gamblers

[catcher24]

Already 13M, Dude

[538280]

Mantle 18.5

[J W]

O'Toole 6.0

[The Dude]

Yeah I edited it.

[538280]

Hansen 3 mil

[The Dude]

O'toole 6.25

[leecemark]

Gamblers edit to 13.25 was good and knocks me out of the bidding

[The Dude]

Is that the buzzer then?

[538280]

Aparicio 2

[leecemark]

--Bidding closed.

[catcher24]

Aparicio 2.25

[J W]

I think that's it!

[catcher24]

I say we use JW's idea next year. I would have gone higher on Aparicio!!

[catcher24]

Nice job, Chris! Now I don't have a SS or decent power threat. Looking like a nasty drop in the standings for me!

[J W]

Wow, 18.5 mil for Mantle :eek:

I don't think we're ever going to see a market quite like this first one. That is, unless some pricy players start retiring / getting cut.

[538280]

That's it, guys. Went good. Sorry Lew for stealing Aparicio on you at the last second.

BTW, now that I have four shortstops (Tresh, Hansen, Held, and Aparicio), they're on the trading block before the season if anyone's interested.

[catcher24]

Guess I got Jack Kralick, though. So all was not lost. That gives me 20 pitchers on the roster now!

[catcher24]

Well, I'll survive. I discovered that Ron Santo plays SS in 1962, and I got Ed Charles for 3rd. It'll work. Would have gone higher on Versalles, too, if I knew I was going to lose Aparicio AND Hansen!:grouchy

[catcher24]

I have 20 pitchers, Chris.:p You want anyone for Tresh or Held?;)

[catcher24]

Well, Dude, you got O'Toole. Congrats!

[J W]

Believe it or not, we Skipjacks got exactly what we wanted: Protection for Dean Chance and Jim Fregosi, neither of which played for us last season.

McMahon, if retained, gives us two great years out of the pen... but he'll need to be stuffed in the minors in '63.

[538280]

I have 20 pitchers, Chris.:p You want anyone for Tresh or Held?;)

Give me Kralick, Jack Lamabe, and Steve Hamilton for Held and a second round pick some year and you've got yourself a deal

[leecemark]

Mantle - Cannons 18.5M! - never expected to see him (or anyone) go so high
Howard - Quakers 16.5M - actually even more surprising
Colavito - Gamblers 13.25M
O'Toole - Gamblers 6.25M - best bargin of all the signing IMO
Versalles - Redbirds 6.25
McMahan - Skipjacks 5.0 - would have looked alot better at .25 less and a one year deal
Hansen - Cannons 3.0
Aparicio - Cannons 2.0 - trying to corner the market on SS Chris?
Kralick - Legends 2.5M

Mantle, Howard and Colavito are due contracts of 3-5 years
O'Toole, Versalles and McMahan are up for 2-4 years/
Hansen, Aparicio and Kralick get 1-3 years.

--Please post the contracts lengths before the close of offseason activity.

[catcher24]

I don't think so, Chris!:laugh

[catcher24]

Mark - Post #36. I bid 2.5M for Kralick. It was the last bid for him.

[catcher24]

OK, that was fun. Now good luck to everyone in the regular FA auction.

[leecemark]

--Okay Lew, I'll edit the winning bid post. Any other bids I missed?.

[J W]

I agree; O'Toole's was the single really nice signing. Though the Cannons should be able to turn one of their shortstops into something more useful.

I'm very interested in the new cap #s. Suddenly my team doesn't feel so cramped :p

[leecemark]

Diablos 32/60.75 - really couldn't afford to skip the auction:confused:
Quakers 38/94.0
Redbirds 41/87.75
Cannons 43/99.25
Knights 39/84.75
Hard Cider 39/73.50
Gamblers 35/91.0
Skipjacks 42/88.25
Legends 33/65.75

[leecemark]

--Mantle has an awesome year in 62 and I would have gladly spent all my cap money to have him. He will be tying up a huge chunk of cap space for a part timer in 63 though. He won't exactly be a bargin in 64 either.
--Howard went for more than I was willing to pay, but he does provide a big bat in the next two years before slumping in 1964. He bounces back some for 65-6, but I doubt this is a 5 year deal. Of course, I never imagined he would go for 16.5M either.
--Colavito looks pretty similar to Howard over the next few years and signed for 3M less so this looks like a solid deal given the market.
--O'Toole is a pretty good starter for 62-63 and a very good one in 64. Best bargin of the auction.
--Versalles is another pretty good deal. Pretty good SS for next 4-5 years with an MVP season in 65 as a bonus.
--McMahan is awesome in 1962, but slumps bad in 63. He does have some additional good years that could justify a longer deal. I would have liked him at up to 4.75 where they would have been a 1 year option. Not a bad deal at 5M though.
--Hansen is useless in 62, but if his glove bounces back to VG/EX could start for somebody in 63 and has a very nice year in 64.
--Aparicio is a dependable glove, but I'd have a hard time putting his bat in my lineup.
--Kralick is a solid pitcher this year and a pretty good one next year. Surprised he went so low. I expected pitching to be at a premium since little is available in the secondary market, but Kralick was almost as good a bargin as O'Toole.

[leecemark]

---The secondary auction is now open. Closing bell is 11PM EST on Monday.

[The Dude]

Colavito is signed for 13.25 Million for Five Years
O'Toole is signed for 6.25 Million for Three Years.

[mac195]

Diablos 32/60.75 - really couldn't afford to skip the auction:confused:
Quakers 38/94.0
Redbirds 41/87.75
Cannons 43/99.25
Knights 39/84.75
Hard Cider 39/73.50
Gamblers 35/91.0
Skipjacks 42/88.25
Legends 33/65.75
HC are at 78.00 after trading Herbert for Pizarro.

[baseballPAP]

The Redbirds get the guy they truly wanted in Versalles....signed to the max(I think) 4 year deal.

To make room, I'll release Earl Averill Jr. and his 1M salary.

~S

P.S. thanks for helping out with the auction Mac!

[mac195]

You're welcome, Scott. I think Versalles was one of the better bargains in the auction.

[538280]

So that we can at least do something in the second free agent auction, the Cannons will be releasing shortstop Roy McMillan and his 1.25 salary as well as Wally Moon and his 1.25 salary. This now brings our payroll to 96.75.

Also, we sign Mantle for five years, Hansen for four, and Aparicio for three.

[catcher24]

Actually, I think I did very well with Kralick, even as well as the O'Toole signing, if you take salary into consideration. O'Toole has a bit better ERA+ over the next three years (115,116,136 to 106, 120. 112 for Kralick), and he has more IP (252,234,220 to 243,223,191 for Kralick), but his salary is 2.5X that of Kralick, too. I was very pleased to get Kralick for the amount I spent.:) Really too bad they are both lefties, though, with the abysmal results lefthanders seem to have in DM.:p

Mark, where do you want the contract lengths posted?

I'll put it here, but if you want it elsewhere (in the roster thread, certainly) I'll put it there, too.

Legends sign Jack Kralick to a 3 year contract for 2.5M per year.

[leecemark]

--Scott, you are correct - 4 years is the max for a player in Zolio's price bracket. He was worth 5M even if nobody else was bidding just so you could go 5 years and lock him up through his MVP year. He, O'Toole and Krakick were the 3 guys (well Aparicio wasn't bad except he seems redundant on the Cannons roster) who got salaries I would have been willing to pay if they filled a need for me.
--I wanted one of the 3 slugging outfielders, but those bids went through the roof. I was willing to spend what I had on Mantle, but he went more than 4M higher than my cap (or that I would have gone even if I had the money), Howard and Colavito I a 12M limit on for myself. Rocky that came close on, but Hondo broke the bank.

[leecemark]

--Chris those releases are required to get down to 40 for Opening day, but they do NOT give you any cap relief. Anybody released after the close of the non-tender period remains on your payroll for the season. You need to list those guys on your roster page as dead contracts.

[catcher24]

Mark - My team salary should be 66M. I went in with a 63.5M salary, and Kralick was 2.5M.

[leecemark]

--A recount (by myself and 2 other owners) of the Cannons salary commitments after last nights auction shows them at 103M. Chris, it seems your own count was correct and my unofficial count was low. I clearly stated it was a quick and unoffical one and would not protect you from cap violation penalties. You should have used your own higher count or better yet doubled checked and got back to me on the discrepancy.
--The Cannons Mantle bid is voided. The rules make the first option in this case is the next highest bidder gets first option to sign a player in this circumstance. That would be the Legends at 18M. Lew do you want Mantle at that price?
--Chris, your cap space for 1963 is hereby reduced to 95M. You do have your full 100M (you are currently at 84.50) to participate in the secondary auction. If you want to revoke your release of McMillan and Moon I'll allow that, although I can't see why you'd want either of them.

[leecemark]

--The secondary marker is off to a pretty slow start so I'll get things rolling. The Knights bid 4.75M on Willie Davis.

[catcher24]

Yes, I will take Mantle at 18M.

[catcher24]

The Legends sign Mantle to a 3 year contract at 18M per year.

[catcher24]

The Legends will bid on the following players:

Bob Schmidt - 250K
Joe Adcock - 1M
Joe Koppe - 250K
Rod Kanehl - 250K
Whitey Herzog - 250K
Hank Foiles - 250K

[538280]

--A recount (by myself and 2 other owners) of the Cannons salary commitments after last nights auction shows them at 103M. Chris, it seems your own count was correct and my unofficial count was low. I clearly stated it was a quick and unoffical one and would not protect you from cap violation penalties. You should have used your own higher count or better yet doubled checked and got back to me on the discrepancy.
--The Cannons Mantle bid is voided. The rules make the first option in this case is the next highest bidder gets first option to sign a player in this circumstance. That would be the Legends at 18M. Lew do you want Mantle at that price?
--Chris, your cap space for 1963 is hereby reduced to 95M. You do have your full 100M (you are currently at 84.50) to participate in the secondary auction. If you want to revoke your release of McMillan and Moon I'll allow that, although I can't see why you'd want either of them.

It's my fault I guess for not checking. Should have checked. I'd just like to ask that if we're going to make a post stating our cap space at the beginning of an auction, please try to make it accurate from now on, okay? My count was done on my own without really checking over and I figured mine must be wrong, but I'm not going to complain. My fault. I might be getting Mantle back anyway.:)

[ElHalo]

I've been out of town since Thursday, and hadn't realized that the premium auction was a one shot deal; thought it was spread out over several days. That's ok in any event; Versailles was the only guy I wanted to bid on.

[mac195]

Jim Davenport 500K

[ElHalo]

Jim Davenport 500K

Jim Davenport $1.5 mill.

[leecemark]

--Chris, a little more bad news for you. The max contract length for a player signed for less than 5M is 3 years. Therefore, you'll need to reduce the years on Ron Hansen's deal.

[mac195]

Jim Davenport 2M

[538280]

--Chris, a little more bad news for you. The max contract length for a player signed for less than 5M is 3 years. Therefore, you'll need to reduce the years on Ron Hansen's deal.

All right, make it a three year contract. No problem.

[The Dude]

Jose Tartabull-.25M
Phil Linz-.25m
Roy McMillan-.25m
Sam Jones-.25m
Mike Joyce-.25m

[J W]

Johnny Blanchard - .75
Bill Mazeroski - 1.0
Joe Adcock - 1.25

[catcher24]

Joe Adcock - 2M

[ElHalo]

Al Smith - $1.75
Lenny Green - $4.75

[ElHalo]

Tony Cloninger - $1.75
Ted Bowsfield - $1

[ElHalo]

Paul Foytack - $1
Bob Turley - $0.5
Whitey Herzog - $1.5
Ray Sadecki - $3
Jerry Lynch - $2
Sam Jones - $1

[ElHalo]

All 1 year contracts under $5, right?

[The Dude]

Sam Jones-1.25m

1-3 years, up to the winning bidder.

[ElHalo]

Sam Jones - $2.5

[catcher24]

Whitey Herzog 2M

[ElHalo]

Whitey Herzog 2M

Herzog - $3

[leecemark]

--What is the attraction with Whitey? Grooming your future manager maybe?

[ElHalo]

You get a full half-season out of a guy who's a better than average hitter and can play all three outfield positions.

[Nails]

Frank Howard is a four-year contract through the 1965 season. I probably wouldn't have gone as high if I were able to bid at the deadline, but I wanted to guarantee myself one big bat from the auction. It seemed like there was several teams interested in Colavito and Mantle and I just didn't want to get involved with them and miss out completely.

My secondary bids are Mazeroski at $1.5 million and Julio Gotay at $.25 million.

[catcher24]

Willie Davis 5M
Gino Cimoli 500K

[ElHalo]

Nevermind.

[leecemark]

--Jerry Lynch 2.25. I was hoping to get Willie Davis by opening with the max on a 1 year deal. Lew being willing to go the second year puts me out of that race though. With Mays already in CF he is too expensive for a 4th OFer.
--26 players have been bid on, but a Hall of Famer in mid-career remains snubbed. Can nobody use Ernie Banks and his 500 slugging?

[mac195]

Jerry Lynch 2.25 - Knights
Willie Davis 5M - Legends
Gino Cimoli 500K - Legends
Mazeroski 1.5M - Quakers
Julio Gotay 250K - Quakers
Herzog 3M - Diablos
Sam Jones 2.5M - Diablos
Paul Foytack 1M - Diablos
Bob Turley 500K - Diablos
Ray Sadecki 3M - Diablos
Tony Cloninger 1.75M - Diablos
Ted Bowsfield 1M - Diablos
Al Smith 1.75M - Diabos
Lenny Green 4.75M - Diablos
Joe Adcock 2M - Legends
Johnny Blanchard 750K - Skipjacks
Jose Tartabull 250K - Gamblers
Phil Linz 250K - Gamblers
Roy McMillan 250K - Gamblers
Mike Joyce 250K - Gamblers
Jim Davenport 2M - Hard Cider
Bob Schmidt 250K - Legends
Joe Adcock 1M - Legends
Joe Koppe 250K - Legends
Rod Kanehl 250K - Legends
Hank Foiles 250K - Legends

[leecemark]

--I've been tracking as well and will post an updated list when I get home from work tonight (unless Mac stays ahead of me). That will be up at least 90 minutes before the deadline.

[baseballPAP]

What the hell....I have the $$.
Ernie Banks 1M.

[The Dude]

Don Landrum -.25m

[538280]

Mike Joyce .5

[leecemark]

--Chris, I believe you only have .25M left after that bid. I had you at 99.25 after the Held for Mantle deal. Don't cost yourself anothe r5M in cap space for next year.

[leecemark]

W Davis 5.0 Legends
B Schmidt .25 Legends
J Koppe .25 Legends
R Kanehl .25 Legends
H Foiles .25 Legends
J Davenport 2.0 Hard Cider
J Tartabull .25 Gamblers
P Linz .25 Gamblers
R McMillan .25 DC
M Joyce .50 cannons
J Blanchard .75 Skipjacks
B Mazeroski 1.5 Quackers
JK Adcock 2.0 Legends
A Smith 1.75 Diablos
L Green 4.75 Diablos
T Cloninger 1.75 Diablos
T Bowsfield 1.0 Diablos
P Foytack 1.0 Diablos
B Turley .50 Diablos
R Sadecki 3.0 Diablos
J Lynch 2.25 Knights
S Jones 2.50 Diablos
W Herzog 3.0 Diablos
J Gotay .25 Quakers
G Cimoli .50 Legends
E Banks 1.0 Redbirds
D Landrum .25 Gamblers

[ElHalo]

Jerry Lynch - $3
Mazeroski - $2

[leecemark]

--Frank Torre .25

[leecemark]

-EH, I'll go ahead and count the Maz/Lynch bids, but we are in the last hour now. One player per post is the rule from here on out.

[ElHalo]

-EH, I'll go ahead and count the Maz/Lynch bids, but we are in the last hour now. One player per post is the rule from here on out.

My apologies. I just didn't want to clog the forum with multiple posts.

[mac195]

.....test.....

[J W]

Adcock 2.25

[leecemark]

Legends go 3.0 on Adcock.

[mac195]

Willie Davis 10.50

[mac195]

Jim Constable .50

[ElHalo]

Willie Davis 10.50

I'm sorry; is this a typo?

[J W]

Hey there Mark.

3.5 for Adcock

[leecemark]

--See I told you he wasn't a bad deal at 7.25. I don't think much of him at 10.5 though. Unless there is something going on behind the scenes I think the Hard Cide rhave made a rare mistake with that bid.

[leecemark]

--Legends go 3.75. Maybe banks is more to your liking.

[mac195]

nevermind.............

[J W]

Naw, I'm fine. I just didn't want Adcock to go for peanuts ;) .

[J W]

aha. Adcock 4.75. Do the Legends want him around?

[mac195]

legends 5 adcok

[J W]

Apparently they do. Well, I got what I could out of it.

Mazeroski 2.25

[leecemark]

--Bidding closed.

[J W]

Maz and Blanchard for $3 total, I can live with that. I'll have some cuts to make though.

[leecemark]

Diablos
Lenny Green 4.75
Whitey herzog 3.0
Ray Sadecki 3.0
Jerry Lynch 3.0
Sam Jones 2.50
Al Smith 1.75
Tony Cloninger 1.75
Paul Foytack 1.0
Ted Bowsfield 1.0
Bob Turley .50

Legends
Joe Adcock 5.0
Gino Cimoli .50
Bob Schmidt .25
Joe Koppe .25
Hank Foiles .25

Gamblers
Jose Tartabull .25
Phil Linz .25
Roy McMillan .25
Don Landrum .25

Hard Cider
Willie Davis 10.50
Jim Davenport 2.0
Jim Constable .50

Skipjacks
Bill Mazeroski 2.25
Johnny Blanchard .75

Redbirds
Ernie Banks 1.0

Cannons
Mike Joyce .50

Knights
Frank Torre .25

Quakers
Julio Gotay .25

[leecemark]

--I'll get these guys added tonight and post new rosters plus roster counts. A few teams will have to make cuts before Opening Day and others may still need to add another player or two. If you have roster space you may sign any unsigned player at 250k beginning now, first come first served.

[Nails]

I don't see 2B Ken Hubbs listed on anyone's team. The Quakers will sign him unless I overlooked him somewhere.

[leecemark]

--Hubbs is available and gets you to 40. Roster totals as of now;
Skipjacks 44 (plus one dead contract)
Hard Cider 42
Diablos 42
Red Birds 41
Cannons 40 (plus 2 dead contracts)
Knights 40
Quakers 40
Gamblers 39
Legends 39
--Those over 40 needs to make cuts before the 10th (remember to list these players as dead contracts on your roster page and count them against your cap). Those under 40 need to sign enough players to get there before the 10th. After the first series, anybody with extra cap space and the desire to do so may sign additional players - first come first served.

[J W]

Well, we'll move over to the offseason thread for cuts, right? Well maybe not; if I do them here everyone will know who's available, lumped in with the other leftovers.

The Skipjacks will begin by cutting 1B Vic Power and P Jack Curtis.

...and you know what, there's no room for Johnny Blanchard. :laugh We'll eat the salary this year because we can (rounded up, 500k?). That leaves one spot being fought for.

[leecemark]

--Here is an updated list of unsigned players....

[baseballPAP]

The Redbirds release Ryne Duren to get back to 40. This makes them 2 dead contracts, noted on the rosters page.

Management is very surprised that Banks went so cheaply, and sign him to the max(3 years I think?) deal.

Also, is there a rule about playing players out of position? If there isn't, Chuck Hiller may have just lost his job.

[leecemark]

--You can play anybody anywhere you want if you're willing to take the defensive hit. I'll get you the updated file so you can play with that. Three years is the max on a 1M deal.

[mac195]

Nevermind.

[catcher24]

Mark - I should also show "Hot Rod" Kanehl as being won in the free agent auction. In post #143, he was one of my original six bids (@ 250K), and as far as I can see no one else bid on him. That should fill my roster, too. Kanehl can't hit a lick, but he plays EVERY position except catcher, so he could prove to be useful in an extreme pinch.

[catcher24]

My contracts will be:
Hank Foiles, C - 1 year @ 250K
Bob Schmidt, C - 1 year @ 250K
Joe Koppe, SS - 1 year @ 250K
Gino Cimoli, RF - 1 year @ 500K
Rod Kanehl, OF - 1 year @ 250K
Joe Adcock, 1B - 3 Years @ 5M (Hey, a 139 OPS+ in 1964 with 415 plate appearances will make a nice RH complement to McCovey).

[538280]

I'll sign my only guy, Doyle, for one year.

[The Dude]

Jose Tartabull .25 1 Year
Phil Linz .25 1 Year
Roy McMillan .25 2 Years
Don Landrum .25 1 Year

[The Dude]

The Gamblers will sign Catcher Dick Brown to a 3 year contract for .25 Million.

This should bring our roster to 40 players and a 91.75 Million payroll.

[leecemark]

--Torre (my only FA from either auction) will be a one year deal.

[Nails]

Gotay 1yr/.25
Hubbs 1yr/.25

[J W]

The Skipjacks have released reliever Ray Moore to get to 40 men. Jim Golden ends up with the last spot.

[leecemark]

--That leaves only the Hard Cider and Diablos needing roster moves to get to 40 for Opening Day (both are at 42). Rosters must be set and profiles ready by 10 April. Once you have your team updated in the roster thread let me know so I can copy your data over. Rosters are frozen from 10-13 April.
--I've been thinking about the process for signing additional players after the season gets underway. Although nobody left after we are all set at 40 is likley to be a big factor this season there is some value (current or future) in the left over pool. Going on an unlimited first come first served is a big advantage to me since the post time of the first series will basically be whenever I get around to it (it will be sometime on the 13th though). Unless there is some objection the excess player signing will be modified as follows;
--You can make signings any time after midnight EST on the 13th, but those players won't be added to your roster until after the first series.
--Signings will be limited to one additional player per day. You can keep signing 1 per day until you run out of players who interest you or hit the program max of 80 or run out of money (pretty sure the first will be the case for everbody:laugh ). There is, of course, no requirement to add extra players if you don't need them (or in Chris' case can't pay them).

[ElHalo]

April 10 is Monday? Just so you know, I'll probably have my stuff done on Saturday; don't forsee having time before then.

[leecemark]

--With the Leppert cut I have the Diablos at 40 (attached is roster I had prior to that cut Jim). The Diablos still need to add the 250K raises from all players active last season too. Maybe I missed something, but I still show the Hard Cider with 42 (that roster also attached).

[mac195]

The two dead contracts are indicated on the roster page.

[leecemark]

--Sorry if I missed the post where you released them. For anyone interested, Jim Constable and Hal Brown are the released players.

[ElHalo]

Sorry I forgot to post this before; Al Smith gets a 2 year deal, everybody else one.

[J W]

Any loose ends to tie up, Mark? If not, this thread will be closed.

Or we could keep this open for transaction posting during the season; either way's fine by me.

[leecemark]

--Now that the season is underway, I'd prefer transactions be posted there (in the season thread). It will be easier to track in one thread only. This thread can be closed.