Interested in joining our league?

[leecemark]

--Like to be a part of BBF's premeire historical sim league? The CKL grew out of a series of different themed historical leagues. The first season of the CKL was the 4th DiamondMind (our game engine) Classic League. It is a 12 team league which started with a draft of all players from the 1961 season. We have 9 active owners, with the A's, Phillies and Senators being left intact as computer managed as "designated doormats"
--The doormats will stay in business for three seasons. After the 1963 season they will be disbanded and replaced by 3 expansion teams for 1964. We will need 3 new owners and are looking to find some good BBF members ahead of time. We are currently in the 1961-62 offseason. We're on pace to play 3 seasons per year so you'd get your opportunity sometime in the 2006-07 offseason in real time. You'd also have first chance at taking over an existing team if we lose an owner (everybody is back for 1962 though).
--There are no league fees and you don't have to buy anything to participate. All you need to is to be a regular BBF member (who checks in near daily) and have an interest in baseball history. You can find almost anything you'd like to know about the league here in our sub-forum
--If interested please PM me with any questions. Once accepted as an owner in waiting you'd be encouraged to participate in rules discussions, award voting or any other league business that may come up.

[leecemark]

--Wamby and runningshoes have thrown their hats in the ring so far. We have at least three spots to fill and they won't be locked in for awhile yet. We'd like to have at least four interested parties lined up. When the time comes to award teams, participation as an owner in waiting will be the top criteria.

[Wasp]

I'd like to take a stab at running a team. Now that I'm back on the forums, I'll be here most likely every day.

[catcher24]

Wasp - Keep an eye on the league. It will be a few months (finish of the '62 season replay, and then the '63 season replay) before we expand, but when we do we'll need at least three new managers. And younever know if someone might drop out. BTW, if you're interested, our league website is here (http://www.geocities.com/lougehrig24/)

[Francoeurstein]

I'm interested.

[catcher24]

HankAaron86 - Please see my reply to wasp, just above your post. It'll be awhile, but eventually we will be looking.

[leecemark]

--Please tell us a little about yourself as well. We are taking applications early so we can select the owners who are going to bring the most to the league. You need to be a regular poster at BBF, who we can hopefully count on for the long haul and have some knowlege of baseball history (or the willingness and time to learn) at least back to the 60s. We want new owners who are going to make us work for our wins:) .

[Francoeurstein]

--Please tell us a little about yourself as well. We are taking applications early so we can select the owners who are going to bring the most to the league. You need to be a regular poster at BBF, who we can hopefully count on for the long haul and have some knowlege of baseball history (or the willingness and time to learn) at least back to the 60s. We want new owners who are going to make us work for our wins:) .

Well I'm 11, and I post about 10 posts per day. I know a little about the 60's history, I usually stick around current events. But I am definetly willing to learn about the 60's.

[reds2221]

I am also interested.

I am a baseball nut who lives for baseball. I just joined here but I can tell that I will be posting often. I am a big reds fan and love learning about the old teams of the 50's, 60's, and 70's.

[leecemark]

--Welcome to BBF. Hope you enjoy it here. There is some great baseball discussion. A brand new member isn't exactly what we're looking for, but we've got some time before we select our expansion owners so if you stick around we'll keep you in mind.
--For everyone who has expressed interest, please familiarize yourself with the rules of our league and, in particular, with the rules for expansion. You'll have to be interested in the long term for this really be fun for you. The expansion teams are very unlikely to be competive in their first year (and probably not for several seasons).

[catcher24]

For those interested in joining, take a look at our web site, located HERE (http://www.geocities.com/lougehrig24/) . The link at the bottom will take you to the rules, and you can check out all the team rosters, game scores, etc.

[Francoeurstein]

Looks interesting, I would be very, very thankful to be in this league.

[leecemark]

--You are a leading contender for one of our expansion teams in "1964". WE might even have an opening for the 63 season, although I hope everyone will be back.

[Francoeurstein]

Thanks Mark!!!

[catcher24]

Wait a minute, Mark. Is this a setup? This guy is going to help you continue your powerhouse, right?:laugh

Just kidding, HankAaron86. Sounds like you're interested, and having someone interested and willing to spend the time necessary to really compete is important. No, wait a minute, I spend hours on this and have the second worst record......:p

[leecemark]

--Keep the faith Lew. The 70s are sure to be your decade:laugh .

[catcher24]

I'm hoping late 60's, Mark! McCovey is awesome and Marichal and Santo are good as well. And that's the sweet spot for three or four of my relievers. Need to fill in a couple of spots, but I think I can accomplish that in the 63 and 67 drafts.

[Francoeurstein]

Wait a minute, Mark. Is this a setup? This guy is going to help you continue your powerhouse, right?:laugh

Just kidding, HankAaron86. Sounds like you're interested, and having someone interested and willing to spend the time necessary to really compete is important. No, wait a minute, I spend hours on this and have the second worst record......:p

Now that school has just ended I have a lot more internet time.

Granted, baseball is my lifem I breathe it, sleep it, drink itm and sometimes I pee it out!!!! Of course if I don't get a team ever, I won't get mad. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[DoubleX]

Hi guys, I'd like to express my interest in joining. Looks like fun.

[leecemark]

--We would like to have the 64 expansion owners run the "doormat" teams (1961 A's, Phillies and Senators) in 1963 to gain a little experience. That won't be a very exciting season for you, but the trade off would be us dropping the salary cap restriction we had intended to put on expansion owners the first 2 years.
--We've had a number of people express interest, but only HA86 has had any followup. If you expressed interest earlier and would still like to participate, please let us know. New applicants are still welcome as well. The 1963 pre-season activity will be getting underway shortly after the 4th of July and we'd like to have the 3 spots filled by then.

[Francoeurstein]

So, I can make a team for the 1963 expansion league!!!!???? :D

[leecemark]

--1963 will be a training season using the 3 teams that have been computer managed in 1961-62. You'll be able to make lineups and so forth, but you'll have only limited input on who is on your roster. Actual expansion will be in 1964.

[Francoeurstein]

Oh ok.... ;)

[Windy City Fan]

I know I disappeared during the initial draft of this league (curse my computer and then my personal life), but I'd like another shot if you're willing to take me back.

[mac195]

You dissappeared from this league and from the previous one, WCF. You also dissapeared from the "All Time Draft" project that you started in the History Forum after we had put quite a bit of time into it. Given that track record, I think you're asking us to do something pretty foolish.

[leecemark]

--Hank, you can pick which of the 3 doormats you'd like to use as your training team for 1963 (1961 A's, Phillies or Senators). You'll have that roster intact and will be able to sign any leftovers when the normal offseason activity is over to fill your holes (as best as you can with those teams and the remaining options anyway). You'll be able to create your own team to replace that one in 1964.
--We still need two new owners. If you are a regular poster and have an interest in historical simulations please apply here.

[catcher24]

Hank - If I were you, I'd take a serious look at the Phillies. They were horrible in 1961 and won't do much in 1963, but they put up some decent numbers in 1964 and could make you somewhat competetive out of the gate.

[J W]

OK, Hank's on board... here's who else posted with interest:

- reds2221
- runningshoes
- Wamby
- Wasp
- Windy City Fan

anyone on this list still interested?

[Erik Bedard]

I could be interested if you really need me, but I only have so much computer time, and even though I post pretty much every day, I'm also in the new version of the All-Time draft and the BBF Transaction game. This looks pretty cool, though.

[mac195]

With a name like "Maple Syrup Man", you're bound to be a great addition.

[Erik Bedard]

With a name like "Maple Syrup Man", you're bound to be a great addition.

Is that a compliment or an insult?

BTW, about what I said earlier, if Hank can do it, so can I.

[mac195]

Is that a compliment or an insult?
... a compliment. I like mayple syrup, and it has the same sort of old home New England feeling as "Hard Cider", which is the name of my team.

[J W]

Maybe the Maple Syrup can be based out of Maine. :gt

Other suggestions:
- Fighting Syrup
- Maple Men

[Erik Bedard]

If I can join, I could take any one of the teams, it doesn't matter to me.

[leecemark]

--Okay, Hank86 and MSM are in as "owners-in-training" then. You'll be running one of our previously computer managed teams in 1963 and have a limited availability to make moves. You can pick from the 1961 Phillies, A's and Senators. We are still hashing out whether or not you will be able to keep players off those teams when they are disbanded and replaced by expansion teams in 1964. Feel free to participate in that discussion. One more to go.

[Erik Bedard]

OK, I'll take the Phils.

[catcher24]

Posted by JW:
Other suggestions:
- Fighting Syrup
- Maple Men

How about the Sappy Crew? Sticky Nine? Pancake Toppers?:laugh ;)

Anyway, welcome to HankAaron86 and MapleSyrupMan! See, Hank, I told you to grab the Phils; now they're gone!

[leecemark]

--if we end up letting the expansion teams keep players off their training team then the Phils are clearly the best option. For just playing out 63 it won't matter much and the Phils are as bad as anybody could hope to be.

[catcher24]

You're right, Mark. Actually, I think the Senators have the best doormat team, as they stand now. But if the new owners can keep players, the Phils are definitely the best team.

[leecemark]

--Hank has selected the Phillies, so we just need someone to run the Senators this season.

[Francoeurstein]

Suggestions for my team name:

Hank's Heavy Hitters
Hank's Bengals
Hank's Blue Belugas ( very very random :D )

[catcher24]

Mark - MapleSyrupMan took the Phillies already. We need managers for Washington and Kansas City. Post #36: OK, I'll take the Phils.

[catcher24]

Posted by HankAaron86:
Suggestions for my team name:

Hank's Hammerers?
Hammer Down?
Hammerdingers?

[leecemark]

--Still need an owner to run the Senators this year. If anybody is interested please let me know. The time required as an owner in training for your first season would not be a greta deal. It would require more of your attention in your second season (starting sometime in the real baseball offseason), when the Sens are disbanded and your expansion team takes over.

[catcher24]

Mark - Who has what team? MapleSyrupMan took the Phils, but then you told Hank he could have the Phils, and I never saw anything more.

[J W]

For DoubleX: Don't forget to add your post to the Rosters Thread. Just copy the Quakers roster and make any necessary changes in preparation for 1963. I am going to delete the Quakers roster once this happens.

[leecemark]

--MSM has the Phils and HA86 the A's. We still need an owner for the Senators. I've kept the current owners updated in post 1 of the discussion thread.

[Tigers4ever]

I'll take the Senators

[leecemark]

--Tigers4Ever, Thanks for your interest. We'll get back to you soon on whether you get them or not.

[littlereb]

I'm interested in taking over the Senators. Thanks.

[J W]

Suggestions for my team name:

Hank's Heavy Hitters
Hank's Bengals
Hank's Blue Belugas ( very very random :D )

I vote for Hank's Belugas. It's different and goes alongside my maritime theme.

Or, if you like blue, why not Hank's Blue Sox? We need a Sox. If not, Belugas. :p

[leecemark]

I'm interested in taking over the Senators. Thanks.


--Is this George from the PAP2 league? If so, you've got the Senators. That fills our ownership slots for now. If anyone else is interested please post your interest here and I'll let you know if a team comes open.

[catcher24]

Posted by JW:
I vote for Hank's Belugas.

You just want a whale to harpoon, Captain Ahab!!;) :D

[littlereb]

littlereb is indeed George from PAP2.

[baseballPAP]

Welcome aboard George!

[J W]

Have fun George!

Hey Lew, we have two new owners in our division...

Failed suggestions for littlereb:

- Rebels... overdone
- Longhorns... taken by Texas
- Catfish... goes with the Hard Cider though
- Double-Breasted Suits... :D

[Erik Bedard]

Or, if you like blue, why not Hank's Blue Sox?

I was going to be the Amber Sox.

[J W]

Works for me!

The Belugas and Amber Sox :clapping

[leecemark]

--HankAaron86 has completely disappeared from the board. All his posts have been deleted and he is no longer on the member list. Looks like we have another opening.

[ElHalo]

--HankAaron86 has completely disappeared from the board. All his posts have been deleted and he is no longer on the member list. Looks like we have another opening.

Did he get banned?

[leecemark]

--I'm guessing that must be the case. I don't know how his posts would disappear otherwise. I am not aware of any controversy he was involved in, but there are alot of forums/thread I never look at.

[Francoeurstein]

Did he get banned?

Nah... He's right here. I'll replace him :D.

[Francoeurstein]

I'll be the Jeff's Jarheads.

[catcher24]

OK, I can live with that. A little disturbing at first, though!;)

[Erik Bedard]

I'm MSM, just with a name change! I'll still keep my name, as Bedard is Canadian and actually hails from Navan, Ontario, right in the middle of maple syrup country!

[-Kyle-]

I wouldn't mind doing something like this, it looks like a lot of fun. Any links or rules on how to play?

[leecemark]

--The rules and most anything else you'd want to know about the league can be found in this sub-forum. We don't have any openings right now, but if you stick around one might open up.

[J W]

Just a reminder for the expansion owners: the secondary FA auction will be over 11pm this Monday. You will have one week I believe to sign anyone you wish to a 1-yr contract to fill any obscene holes on the team.

[catcher24]

Posted by JW:
to fill any obscene holes on the team.

JW, I think the Athletics ARE an obscene hole!:laugh :laugh

[leecemark]

--Hank/Jeff, MSM/Eric and Littlereb/George, its time for you to start doing some work with your teams. Please get your team pages started in the roster thread. The Knghts page is updated as an example and I've also provided directions in the offseason thread. Please use your 1961 carryovers to get the rosters set up and you can edit in your new additions when you are able to add them (starting Tuesday).

[leecemark]

JW, I think the Athletics ARE an obscene hole!:laugh :laugh

--Should we change their name to the A-holes for the 63 season then:D .

[catcher24]

Posted by Mark:
--Should we change their name to the A-holes for the 63 season then

:eek: I was shocked, Mark (that is, after I quit laughing). We probably had better not, or this sub-category might get censored!!:laugh

[leecemark]

--Owners in training you should be adding a player per day from the remaining unsigned players, starting today (see the auction thread for a list). You should also have your roster (the 61 teams) posted in the roster thread by now. Please get moving on this if you are still interested in participating

[Erik Bedard]

OK, the roster's posted. One problem though: I already have 40 guys. What should I do with regard to adding players?

[catcher24]

Posted by Erik Bedard:
OK, the roster's posted. One problem though: I already have 40 guys. What should I do with regard to adding players?

How did you get 40 players on the roster already? Where did the roster come from? I only show 27 players on the Phillies roster for 1961, from the game file that Mark sent me. These are the players listed on the game roster for the 61 Phillies: Ruben Amaro,Jack Baldschun, Paul Brown, John Buzhardt, Johnny Callison, Choo Choo Coleman, Clay Dalrymple, Don Demeter, Don Ferrarrese, Tony Gonzalez, Dallas Green, Pnacho Herrera, Ken Lehman, Art Mahaffey, Bobby Malkmus, Jack Meyer, Jim Owens, Robin Roberts, Chris Short, Bobby Gene Smith, Charlie Smith, Frank Sullivan, Tony Taylor, Elmer Valo, Lee Walls, Ken Walters, Jim Woods. I would think that anyone you have listed on the roster thread who is NOT in this list could be deleted and replaced, but better let Mark verify that before you do it.

[Erik Bedard]

I just used the 40-man roster from Baseball-almanac. Should I have only used the guys who appeared in games?

[leecemark]

--Only guys who played and who ended the year with your team. That is the 27 players mentioned by Lew.

[catcher24]

Yeah, basically that eliminates everyone who won't help anyway, and get some of the clutter out of the way while you try to set up a decent roster and lineup.

[Erik Bedard]

OK, thanks. I'll edit my roster.

[leecemark]

--We had an opening come available unexpectedly if anyone is interested in joining the league. You would be running the KC A's this season to get a feel for the league and drafting an expansion squad next season (we're doing 3 seasons a year). You would need to be a BBF regular who checks in near daily to effectively participate.

[Wasp]

If you don't mind leecemark, I would like to take the A's.

[leecemark]

--I'll have to discuss it with the other owners. Are you visiting BBF regularly? You haven't posted much.

[Wasp]

Yes, I've been visiting regulary for the past couple of months. I just don't post very often.

[J W]

Wasp has in fact been around here for a while but went on hiatus... welcome back btw!

Just remember to keep after the team. The program will take care of the rest.

[leecemark]

--Wasp, if you can get a roster complete with team profile up on the Roster Thread by Sunday you can have the KC A's. Attached is their current roster, plus the batting and pitching stats for your current players and lists of free agents (couple glitches in those last 2 files, but they are mostly accurate). Once you get your roster up you can add the 4 players you need to get up to 40. You will have control of this team for training pirposes this year, but can not make trades. Next season they will be disbanded and you will be drafting an expansion team with full control (trades, free agent signings, etc).
--For George and Eric/MSM, Sunday will make one week behind deadline for the Phillies and Senators. Please be at 40 and have your Roster page with profiles included up before then.

[TheKingofKings]

I would be very interested in joining if there would be an opening ...

[leecemark]

--We have a new opening in the league. The owner in training of the Senators (Little Reb) has decided he doesn't have the time to run a team in our league. It does require pretty regular checking up to successfully participate.
--If you are a BBF regular and think you have the time and interest to run a team in the CKL, please post your application here. You could play around with the Senators a little to get a feel for the game. They will be disbanded along with the Phillies and A's next season (starting this offseason) and you would be able to draft an expansion team.

[TheKingofKings]

--We have a new opening in the league. The owner in training of the Senators (Little Reb) has decided he doesn't have the time to run a team in our league. It does require pretty regular checking up to successfully participate.
--If you are a BBF regular and think you have the time and interest to run a team in the CKL, please post your application here. You could play around with the Senators a little to get a feel for the game. They will be disbanded along with the Phillies and A's next season (starting this offseason) and you would be able to draft an expansion team.

I'm up for the task ...

[leecemark]

--OK, KoK you can take a stab at it. Attached are the team stats to date, team roster and free agent lists. You got a few empty roster spots if you want to add anyone. Please get your roster, lineups, pitching assignments and magerial profile posted to the CKL Roster thread ASAP and let me know when you've done so. I'll update the team program to your specifications as soon as you get that done. Use my roster set-up (less salary data - n/a for you this season) as a template. Let me know if you have any questions. Welcome and good luck.

[leecemark]

....oops, here are those promised attachments

[leecemark]

I'm up for the task ...


--Apparently not. KoK has decided the CKL is too complicated and the opening for a new GM remains.

[rockiesfan4ever]

Do you still need owners?

[catcher24]

We're looking for one more owner at this time. That owner can finish the season running the 1961 Senators (one of our three doormat teams) to get a feel for the league, then would draft an expansion team for the upcoming 1964 season (the league is in it's third season; the doormat teams kept their 1961 rosters for all three seasons). If you're interested, as mentioned in my post, I would strongly suggest going to the sub-category Classic Keeper League (at the top of Fantasy and Gaming category homepage) and read the league rules. If you have any questions, feel free to post or PM leecemark (league commissioner) or me.

[leecemark]

--One of our expansion owners has dropped out with just over a week before the draft. If you are interested please PM me ASAP. Due to the short notice, I'll be happy to assist a new owner in building a draft list. There is a significant time commitment (see the 1963-64 offseason thread for details) during the start up phase and you need to visit regularly all season to be a successfull owner.

[Edgartohof]

Hey, just getting back to you again, letting you know that I am willing to help out and take that team. And just double checking, but I'll be taking over for the Senators correct?

[-Kyle-]

So how long will you guys do this? I need to wait another 30 years before I can easily reconize players.

[Erik Bedard]

I admit, it is hard work for one as young as me, where I don't know 75% of the players and have to look them up. However, it does in a way make it easier, because I've never heard of most of them and have to go solely on their stats. Make any sense?

[leecemark]

Hey, just getting back to you again, letting you know that I am willing to help out and take that team. And just double checking, but I'll be taking over for the Senators correct?

--The Senators (as well as the Phillies and A's) are being disbanded and replaced by expansion teams. So, yes, you would be taking the Senators spot, but there are no players currently on your roster. If you check the 1963-64 offseason thread there is an up to date list of players in the expansion pool near the end of it.

[leecemark]

So how long will you guys do this? I need to wait another 30 years before I can easily reconize players.


--We are doing 3 seasons a year, so in less than 10 years we'll be in the 90s and in 15 or so we'll be in the present (at which time I guess we would be down to 1 season per year). Of course, whether the league survives that long is hard to say. I hope so though:clapping .

[catcher24]

Posted by EdgarToHOF:
Hey, just getting back to you again, letting you know that I am willing to help out and take that team. And just double checking, but I'll be taking over for the Senators correct?

OK, welcome aboard, Edgar!! I think you'll find this is a fun league to be involved with.

Posted by Kyle:
So how long will you guys do this? I need to wait another 30 years before I can easily reconize players.

It would just take a bit of work for you, Kyle. Kind of like if I start a league beginning in 1901, everyone would be doing that work. I have for other leagues. It helps you to learn some more of the game's history!;) Keep an eye on the league, if you are at all interested. The majors expand by four teams in 1969, and I rather imagine we'll be adding some as well. You'd be welcome!

Posted by Erik Bedard:
I admit, it is hard work for one as young as me, where I don't know 75% of the players and have to look them up. However, it does in a way make it easier, because I've never heard of most of them and have to go solely on their stats. Make any sense?

Dan, let me say that I think you are doing a fine job so far. And yes, it makes perfect sense. You don't have memories of favorites that might cause you to make a bad decision. That's happened to me already, and I'll bet it has to some of the other older owners, too.

Posted by Mark:
--The Senators (as well as the Phillies and A's) are being disbanded and replaced by expansion teams. So, yes, you would be taking the Senators spot, but there are no players currently on your roster. If you check the 1963-64 offseason thread there is an up to date list of players in the expansion pool near the end of it.

Post #31, Edgar. Also check the first post in the 1963-64 off season thread. You may also want to refer to the following posts in the 1963 season thread, posted by Mark and which explain the procedure a little better (I dug them out for another prospective owner): Posts 295, 394, 422.

Posted by Mark:
Of course, whether the league survives that long is hard to say. I hope so though

So do I, Mark. So do I!:clapping

[Edgartohof]

Not entirely sure where to post this, but I figured this was as good of a place as any.

Just to be sure I understand this correctly, the former doormat teams, will choose 30 players from the expansion draft, which is made up of players from those teams? And then the other 10 come from the Rookie Drafts and other subsequent PFA's, etc...?

[leecemark]

--That is correct. You will draft 30 players from expansion pool (surviving members of the 1961 doormats and unprotected players from the other 9 teams. You will round out your roster from the rookie draft, free agency and/or trades. You have 2nd pick in both the expansion and rookie draft.
--You'll need to pick a team name and a park that was active in 1964 and is not being used by another team (see post 1 of the discussion thread for parks currently in use). The expansion draft is Friday, October 27 at 8PM EST (5 our time). If that is not going to be a good time for you, I'll be happy to proxy for you. Just put together a draft list.

[-Kyle-]

It would just take a bit of work for you, Kyle. Kind of like if I start a league beginning in 1901, everyone would be doing that work. I have for other leagues. It helps you to learn some more of the game's history! Keep an eye on the league, if you are at all interested. The majors expand by four teams in 1969, and I rather imagine we'll be adding some as well. You'd be welcome!
I'm pretty interested all right, but I'm already in a leauge, so I'll spectate from a distance until I think I can join.

[catcher24]

Keep an eye on the league, Kyle. You can get a good feel for it by observing for a couple of seasons. We'll most likely be looking to expand again prior to the 1969 season (when the real majors expanded again). If you think you'd like to join, you could probably do so then. I'm guessing that's about 15 months or so in real time, since we do a season in about three months time.

[leecemark]

--There is always the possiblity of an existing owner dropping out before "1969" too. I hope we can keep all our fine owners, but the reality of an online league is people tend to come and go. Maybe we can be the exception though:clapping .

[Erik Bedard]

Given that we went through seven expansion owners for three teams, I'd say that the likelihood of that is somewhat slim, unfortunately.

[catcher24]

Posted by Mark:
--There is always the possiblity of an existing owner dropping out before "1969" too

That thought occurred to me, too, Mark. But I was afraid of jinxing us if I mentioned that thought!:ughh

EB makes a valid point, too. It would be great to get a hardcore group of dedicated DM owners, or a few more to add to our present core group, who are all great owners.

[leecemark]

--I think owning the software makes the game more fun and aids in maximizing an owners results. Some of our best and most successfull owners have managed without it though.

[catcher24]

Mac and JW ;)

[rockiesfan4ever]

Can I join if there's an open team?

[leecemark]

--We are full up at the moment, but keep checking.

[rockiesfan4ever]

ok just tell me when there's an opening

[rockiesfan4ever]

OK If any1 drops out just PM me and Ill join

[EdmondsFan#1]

can i join if someone drops out and then rockiesfan4ever joins and then someone else drops out?

[catcher24]

Keep an eye out here. Don't know if you've read this entire thread, but we plan on expanding again in our 1969 season, which is five game seasons away, or about 15 months. Check out the league site; keep an eye on this year's season thread, see if it's anything you might be interested in. I personally think it's a great league, a good time, and really nice group of owners.

[buppers]

This is the kind of league I've been looking for. Talking to another member of a DMB league I am in he told me about this league.
My hobbies including reading anything Bill James puts out, exploring baseballreference.com and trying to create a database/spreadsheet to answer the question "Who is/was the best baseball player of all time"

I am 52 and from Philadelphia so I know of the thrill of victory -1980 and the agony of defeat - 1964 (among MANY others)

So yes I have access to all baseball reference books and to DMB and would like to put them to use in this league.

Thanks for your consideration.

Ed Bupp

[J W]

This is the kind of league I've been looking for. Talking to another member of a DMB league I am in he told me about this league.

Gaining notariety! :clapping :gt

Hang in there fellas (RockiesFan, EdmondsFan, buppers)... seasons do take a while to complete (Mark has a life after all) but there will probably be a couple teams changing ownership before "1969" gets here.

[leecemark]

--We don't have any teams open right now, but if you are active at BBF when an opening comes up we'll keep you in mind. Thanks for your interest and welcome to the site. I think you'll like it.

[catcher24]

Posted by Buppers:
Talking to another member of a DMB league I am in he told me about this league.

That would be me! He's in PAP2 with us, Mark. Don't know if you saw his post on the Yahoo PAP2 thread, but I sent him an email and suggested he check out the site and put up a post here.

Welcome, Ed.:waving Keep an eye on the site; feel free to toss in a post if you want, or add any ideas you think might be worth considering. Mark does a whale of a job with this, but neither he nor the rest of us can claim we thought of everything. Any ideas to improve the league are accepted and discussed.

[rockiesfan4ever]

im still interested

[catcher24]

No openings at present, but stay tuned. Never know when someone might drop out, and for sure we'll be expanding prior to the 1969 season. So please keep in touch, keep checking out the season and off season threads, website, etc. Nice to know there are interested parties out there!

[-Kyle-]

No openings at present, but stay tuned. Never know when someone might drop out, and for sure we'll be expanding prior to the 1969 season. So please keep in touch, keep checking out the season and off season threads, website, etc. Nice to know there are interested parties out there!

I can play when 1969 comes around...:thumbsup:

[sanket]

I'll join.

Why not open up a second league? Seems to be a lot of people wanting a team. Or more divisions?

[catcher24]

Why not open up a second league? Seems to be a lot of people wanting a team. Or more divisions?

With the expansion, we will actually be going to 16 teams, and will split into two leagues of two divisions each. There is a fine line between adding too many teams and not having enough quality players to fill all the spots, or too few teams and having what amounts to an all star league. After much discussion (see the Expansion (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=63436) thread for a lot more info), we felt the "sweet spot" would be adding four teams. And yes, there does appear to be a lot of interest in the four proposed openings, but it is important to the current owners to try and get four really dedicated (or at least very interested) new owners, since we have had a couple of bad experiences already and hope to avoid that.

If you are truly interested, please consider watching our season thread, then more importantly the off season, draft and free agent auction threads, as following them for an entire off season will give you an excellent idea of what the league is all about and how it operates. And feel free to add your two cents worth, since your involvement in ongoing discussions would indicate a strong interest in becoming an owner. We will be expanding after two more "league years", which will translate pretty roughly into about eight or nine months real time. So I expect in about five months or so we will be deciding which interested individuals will get the expansion teams. That would give them the entire 1968 league season to get acclimated to our procedures and to start planning for their draft.

[sanket]

Five Months?!

[catcher24]

I'm thinking that we'll decide on the expansion managers after our 1967 league season, and then the managers who will be getting the new teams can watch the 1968 season and get a decent grasp of how the league operates. I would expect our 1967 league season to be ending in five months or a little longer. But Mark (our commissioner) might have other plans.

[leecemark]

--We have a team available now. The owner of the Cannons has been absent for several months and his team is up for grabs. They have been a contender in most every season so far and have a solid core of players going forward. They have gotten off to a terrible start this year though.
--A successfull owner needs to be logged into BBF and checking on his/her team on a near daily basis. We play a series nearly every day during the season. Most days only a qucik check is needed to see how you are doing, if you have any injuries that need to be addressed, etc. During the offseason you wouldn't need to check everyday, but our rookie draft and free agent auction are held live and require a several hour committment on those days.
--Any interested parties post here or PM me. We'd like to have someone take control of the team as soon as possible, although we might not select the first person to express interest. We want an owner who seems likley to be in this for the long haul.

[A.J.]

im interested in joining

[Sportkrank21]

I have just completed college and would love to join the league. I will have more time on my hands and love the classic leagues.

[mac195]

You'll need to submit your college transcript and a copy of your diploma to Mark. The $500 application fee should be sent directly to me for processing. ;)

[catcher24]

Now wait a minute, Mac. I thought we agreed to SHARE those $500 application fees.....:p

Anyway, we should be making a decision on our four expansion owners in four to six weeks. We have to finish our current season and playoffs, then we want to make our decision so that the new owners can observe the rookie draft, free agent auctions, and 1968 season so that they have a good feel for the league and owners prior to the expansion draft. At the rate we complete a season, I would guess the expansion draft will occur sometime in April or early May.

[ddominator08]

I would be interested in joining your league

[leecemark]

--Three new applicants in the last few days. Looks like we'll have no problem finding our expansion owners. As mentioned above we'll be making decisions on who gets expansion teams immediately after the conclsuion of our 1967 season (now in August). You'd be an observer for 1968 and get a team in 1969. We'll send out PMs to prospective owners a few weeks down the road. Thanks for your interest!

[leecemark]

--We are actively looking for ouir 4 expansion owners now. We just completed the 1967 season and would like our new owners to observe the 1968 season to get acclimated before putting your own team together. We're playing 3 seasons a year so your observationa; period wouldn't be too long. Post here or send me a PM if interested.

[AutographCollector]

Without me reading a 100 pages of this thread... could someone please explain to me how this works? And if I am interested, is there room for one more?

[leecemark]

--There is room for 4 more. We started this league with a draft of all players active in 1961. We've played 7 seasons now, drafting players who made their debut each subsequent season. The rookie class of 1962 has just qualified for free agency. We are playing 3 seasons per year, using DiamondMind to sim the games. We'll be expanding by 4 teams for the 1969 and that is where the openings come in. The basic rules are outlined in the first post of the rules thread in this subforum.
--Thats the bare bones. I'll be happy to answer any more questions in as much detail as you like if it sounds good so far.

[AutographCollector]

--There is room for 4 more. We started this league with a draft of all players active in 1961. We've played 7 seasons now, drafting players who made their debut each subsequent season. The rookie class of 1962 has just qualified for free agency. We are playing 3 seasons per year, using DiamondMind to sim the games. We'll be expanding by 4 teams for the 1969 and that is where the openings come in. The basic rules are outlined in the first post of the rules thread in this subforum.
--Thats the bare bones. I'll be happy to answer any more questions in as much detail as you like if it sounds good so far.

So is Diamondmind something that I need to download? Or... no?
And is this kinda sorta like fantasy baseball? Where I pick what players I want and they play the game? Get points for stats, etc, etc... or am I way off in left field?

[philkid3]

I'm posting now to say I'm really interested.

I'm also half asleep, which leads me to being overwhelmed. I will try and get a handle on everything in the morning. But if you still need people, I'm down. Or up.

[mac195]

So is Diamondmind something that I need to download? Or... no?
And is this kinda sorta like fantasy baseball? Where I pick what players I want and they play the game? Get points for stats, etc, etc... or am I way off in left field?

You don't need to own DM to play. It's a simulation. You just build the best team you can through drafts, trades, and free agent signing, and try to win games.

[catcher24]

So is Diamondmind something that I need to download? Or... no?
And is this kinda sorta like fantasy baseball? Where I pick what players I want and they play the game? Get points for stats, etc, etc... or am I way off in left field?

As Mac195 indicated, you don't need to own the game. It helps, but is certainly not required, and Mac is living proof. He's won two league championships and doesn't own the game.

This is not so much a fantasy league as a replay league. We are replaying baseball history starting in 1961, in a sense. We don't use the actual team rosters. The players were all dumped into a pool and the teams were created using a draft from that pool of players. Prior to each season, a draft of that years rookies. Players appearing for the first time in the majors in a season determine eligibility, ie a player who bats even once can be drafted. There is also a premium free agent auction and regular free agent auction held prior to each season. Then we play a 168 game schedule in six game chunks, with Mark actually running the games and posting results. We have a website HERE (http://www.geocities.com/lougehrig24/) if you care to check it out.

We are now entering the 1968 season, and our expansion will occur once that season is completed (about 4 months). We want to select our new owners now so that they can observe this years rookie draft, premium free agent auction, regular free agent auction and the season, so as to get a good feel for how this works. And perhaps to get a little indication as to how some of the current owners "think".

[catcher24]

I'm posting now to say I'm really interested.

I'm also half asleep, which leads me to being overwhelmed. I will try and get a handle on everything in the morning. But if you still need people, I'm down. Or up.

Philkid3 - If you've been reading the rules, don't let that intimidate you. They can be confusing, but if you end up taking a team you'll learn just about all you need to know by observing the rookie draft and free agent auctions before the season, then monitoring the season thread once it starts. It becomes quite simple after a while. I find the most difficult part for me is tracking the salaries, so I've developed an Excel spreadsheet (very simple, but functional) to help me do that. The same thing could be accomplished with a Word table as well.

[J W]

Yes, Excel is your friend. :twocents: A little work pays off big time in the end. Or of course the Diamond Mind program can help if you want to $$$ and fiddle around with it.

Speaking of which--you've been selling their product so much Lew--I wonder if we can get them to sponsor this league? :p

[catcher24]

I'm only encouraging people to use a tool that I think could help them, Jason. I don't know as I've actually convinced anyone here to buy the game!:confused:

The guys in the league who do have it (Scott, Mark, Joe, Ed) already had it anyway!

[philkid3]

Well yeah, if you need an owner I'm in. I'll try and make sure I know what I'm doing as much as possible.

[Erik Bedard]

Lew, I was seriously considering buying Fusion (allows me to run Windows on my Mac) so that I could buy DMB. But the total cost would come out to be over $130, so I decided not to. If anybody knows of a cheaper way to get DMB (i.e. under $20), then please PM me.

[catcher24]

Yeah, that does seem like it would be a little steep, Dan. I thought they had some other program for running Windows programs on Apples, but I'm not that knowledgeable about it.

[Erik Bedard]

There are quite a few, including Boot Camp, which is free. The catch is that it takes space off your hard drive, and requires the Windows startup disc, which I have no way of getting. Plus you have to reboot every time you want to switch between the Mac and PC. There are also several "virtual machine" programs, which enable you to simply boot up a PC by opening one program, which is what Fusion is. The going rate for those is about 80 bucks, though.

[Disgruntaledmarinerfan]

So, I'm interested in joining If you guys have room left.

I do have a basic grasp for some of the more rudimentary details about how to play, but I would like some more specifics details on the finer points.

[leecemark]

--Please read the Rules Thread, which is pretty short. The first couple posts of the Discussion Thread also give some good info. That thread is very long though and, while it would be worth your while to go through it if you do join, maybe not worth the time until after you commit and are selected. There is also a thread, which is not too long, speciifically dealing with the details of the upcoming Expansion. I'd be happy to answer any speciifc questions that arise after you've checked out the basics.

[catcher24]

There are quite a few, including Boot Camp, which is free. The catch is that it takes space off your hard drive, and requires the Windows startup disc, which I have no way of getting. Plus you have to reboot every time you want to switch between the Mac and PC. There are also several "virtual machine" programs, which enable you to simply boot up a PC by opening one program, which is what Fusion is. The going rate for those is about 80 bucks, though.

Yup, Bootcamp was the program I was trying to think of. Thanks for the info, Dan!

[Disgruntaledmarinerfan]

--Please read the Rules Thread, which is pretty short. The first couple posts of the Discussion Thread also give some good info. That thread is very long though and, while it would be worth your while to go through it if you do join, maybe not worth the time until after you commit and are selected. There is also a thread, which is not too long, speciifically dealing with the details of the upcoming Expansion. I'd be happy to answer any speciifc questions that arise after you've checked out the basics.
I'll make sure I check out those threads.

[hjhjh220]

really it's very good idea i think i will br interested in this game
can i join all of you ?

[leecemark]

--HJ, Welcome to BBF. Joining this league requires a commitment to regular BBF participation (at least to the extent of checking in near daily to see what is going on with the CKL). It would be quite a leap of faith to assume that from someone who just joined. We still have 2 expansion slots open for next season though - and a team under league control now. If BBF proves to be something you like enough to hang around perhaps you can have one of those spots. Thanks for your interest.

[jterry619]

Hey Guys...Joe Terry here as a result of communication with Lew...interested in joining you...very interested in the open squad ...good luck for the balance of the season.

[sanket]

I'm interested... when can I expect to play?

[stejay]

Any places left open?

[leecemark]

--We have two expansion teams open for next season. Stay tuned and maybe you'll get one. We do want to make sure we get somebody with a reasonable level of commitment to BBF and the CKL so it isn't quite as simple as saying "I'll take a team".

[catcher24]

I'm interested... when can I expect to play?


You expressed interest before. However, I sent you a PM when we were looking for a couple of owners to replace someone who left and you didn't respond. Don't know if you didn't get the email, or just weren't interested at that time. At any rate, I expect the expansion draft would be in about eight weeks or so. We have to finish our current season (we're at the all star break, which is over halfway through the season), then our playoffs and a couple of weeks off for a break. Mark will then be filling our four expansion owner slots (we have two committed already unless they change their mind which still leaves two slots open), and once the four spots have owners the expansion draft will take place. If you want to lock one up, I suggest sending Mark (leecemark on the threads) a PM.

[stejay]

--We have two expansion teams open for next season. Stay tuned and maybe you'll get one. We do want to make sure we get somebody with a reasonable level of commitment to BBF and the CKL so it isn't quite as simple as saying "I'll take a team".

I think I deserve a team. I am commited and loyal to BBF

[sanket]

You expressed interest before. However, I sent you a PM when we were looking for a couple of owners to replace someone who left and you didn't respond. Don't know if you didn't get the email, or just weren't interested at that time. At any rate, I expect the expansion draft would be in about eight weeks or so. We have to finish our current season (we're at the all star break, which is over halfway through the season), then our playoffs and a couple of weeks off for a break. Mark will then be filling our four expansion owner slots (we have two committed already unless they change their mind which still leaves two slots open), and once the four spots have owners the expansion draft will take place. If you want to lock one up, I suggest sending Mark (leecemark on the threads) a PM.

Yeah, man, I stopped coming to the forums at that time because it wasn't baseball season lol. I show up every spring... haha

[leecemark]

--We play year round. You'd have to be willing to check in regularly during the offseason to be a good fit for the league.

[catcher24]

--We play year round. You'd have to be willing to check in regularly during the offseason to be a good fit for the league.

Like Mark said. We normally complete about three league seasons in a year,or about one every four months. That constitutes the rookie draft, premium free agent auction, free agent auction, the season (which includes staying on top of injuries and usage issues), and the off season.

I hope anyone who has posted a note of interest understands that this is a year round project, not just a baseball season project.

[leecemark]

--We are into September of our 1968 season and need to make final decisions on the 4 expansion owners for 1969. If you have previously expressed interest please confim that so we don't forget about you when offering up teams. If you haven't previously expressed interest this may be your last chance. Ownership does require regular checking in at BBF so the longer your history here the better.

[jterry619]

Just in case you wondered, the AC Hornets will become the Birmingham Cloverleafs next season...this is our team logo.

[BlueBlood]

I'm interested. I visit BBF more than once-a-day and would most definitely visit in the off season to keep up with the game. I've been reading the Historical Baseball Abstract like mad and am really taking an interest into just who the greatest players of the past where (like 90% of my posts come from the HOF forum)....a little late on the draw as I saw that signature requesting new players months ago, but I can say that my enthusiasm will make me a real competitor.

Plus, I've been wanting to get into the fantasy game for quite some time...played it one year and won my division with some online buddies on Yahoo but I'm not really down with rooting for players on a team other than the Dodgers because A) don't care enough and B) I'm definitely not going to be rooting for such players to do well in a game against LA but not win...just a bit weird. Also, way too time consuming if you're constantly looking at the stats and trying to pick up some nobody on a hot streak or make a major trade. Playing with a historical league is all fine-and-dandy because it's not a conflict of interest or as insanely time consuming. Frankly, I'm dying to see the best of yore take on the rest and revel in any astonishing bizzaro world results.

[leecemark]

BB, I've seen you around the HOF forum enough to think you would be a good owner. Have you read all the rules on how thing work with the CKL yet? If not. please do a little reading up. The General Discussion and Expansion threads should tell you most of what you need to know. The Offseason Thread for this season (1968) will also show you pretty much what to expect, less the expansion draft, when you get to build your first team.
--Let me know if this really looks like something you want to commit to and fire away with any questions, If you're sure you want to do it then we have a spot for you.

[BlueBlood]

Sorry, it sounds too fun.

Where do I sign?

[leecemark]

--We'll count you in. It will be a couple weeks till we get the expansion draft going and I'll get back to you then. Meanwhile there is plenty to check out about the league. Welcome and I hope you enjoy it.

[catcher24]

Playing with a historical league is all fine-and-dandy because it's not a conflict of interest or as insanely time consuming.

Ummm, if you're concerned about time consuming, make sure before you decide. I have found this league to be one of the most time consuming things I've ever done. Of course, it doesn't have to be. But with me (and I suspect with several of the other present owners - strike a chord there, Mark?:)) it has become a kind of passion and I honestly spend literally hours between the draft, making lineups, figuring out trade offers, running test sims, maintaining the web site - and I enjoy it all so much the time flies by.

Hope you decide to join us and stay for many seasons!

[BlueBlood]

Of course, it doesn't have to be.

I'll probably fit that description on occasion or lean towards that but I'll still try to have the most competitive team I can balance with the rest of my free time. It does sound like a lot of hours with one part of the game or another (particularly the offseason), but I assume that on a day to day basis with a team that's performing acceptably without injuries, it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to log in, see what's up, and go do something else, right?

[leecemark]

--The offseason can be pretty time consuming. The draft and free agent auction require several hours of time on the day they occur and I spend a fair amount of time preparing for them as well. During the season it is better if you can check in everyday or nearly so, but most days you can just check out the results and go on to something else.

[catcher24]

I'll probably fit that description on occasion or lean towards that but I'll still try to have the most competitive team I can balance with the rest of my free time. It does sound like a lot of hours with one part of the game or another (particularly the offseason), but I assume that on a day to day basis with a team that's performing acceptably without injuries, it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to log in, see what's up, and go do something else, right?

I would say that's a fair assessment. Occasionally you may have a problem with usage issues (players can't exceed 125% of real life playing time or there is a penalty) that you'll have to address, but I would say if you had 10 minutes a day during the season you'd be all right. Maybe a bit more time if you want to check out your team's box scores at the web site and if you choose to vote for the all star team and awards, but of course those only come once each season. By far the most time will be spent researching the rookie draft and setting your lineups/pitching assignments.

So, welcome and I hope you'll be with us for many seasons to come.:waving

[BlueBlood]

Thanks, can't wait to show you what a real expansion team is made of (spare parts that result in a dismal cellar finish). :shhh:

[Windy City Fan]

I'd be interested in grabbing a team. I know I tend to disappear in the off-season, but if I had something like this to demand my attention, I know I would be able to check in regularly.

I'm a regular in several fantasy football leagues and I've done more than a few fantasy drafts here (usually to see them die as the near a close). The few times the leagues did make it to actual seasons, I did pretty well. I remember finished second to EH in an all-time American League draft and second or third in the all time NL league too.

Also, I know I was an original owner in this league and had to drop out when my computer konked out, but my computer now is currently nice and shiny and should be with me for many years. :)

[Windy City Fan]

Still looking for expansion owners?

[leecemark]

--We have completed the 1968 season and need to settle on our expansion owners. Blueblood and Hack_Miller are confirmed. WCF we are offering you a franchise now. Please confirm your interest. We need one more person in the next 48 hours or we'll proceed with existing owner(s) filling in as proxy drafters and try to backfill those spots later.

[Windy City Fan]

Interest confirmed!

[Erik Bedard]

I sent out an email asking if any of the people I'm in another DMB league with would be interested. I've gotten one potential ownership candidate who may be registering soon.

[leecemark]

--Do you have DMB, Dan? If so get me your e-mail so I can include you in the group I'm sending league files to.

[Erik Bedard]

Unfortunately, I don't have DMB (yet). The other league I'm in is actually very similar to this one, only without the forum, so most communication is through e-mail and all reports are on a website.

[sanket]

Got a PM today asking me to post in this forum if I was interested... I am...

Sanket

[catcher24]

Sanket, double check with Mark, but as of your post I believe we have one slot left. You may actually wish to PM Mark (leecemark) that you are interested. That would fill up all the ownership slots.

[leecemark]

--Okay, Sanket gives us 4 owners. Only Hack_Miller has selected a park and team name so far. Blueblood, Windy City Fan and Sanket please check the frst post of the General Discussion Thread to see which parks are taken. Any park active in 1969 and not already in use is available, first come first served.
--Tomorrow I'll post the draft options in the Expansion Thread. You'll have an opportunity to choose between first pick in the expansion draft, first pick in the rookie draft, second in both or which division you want to be in (which would get you 3rd pick in both drafts). I'll do a random drawing for draft order and give a 12 hour window before letting the next owner in line move ahead of you. If any of our new owners haven't read over the rules in the General Discussion Thread or the Expansion Thread please get caught uo as soon as possible.
--For any other interested parties, we have no openings as of today. Please go ahead and post here if you're interested though. I hope all our current owners are committed to their teams, but we had some turnover during the startup draft and again in the first round of expansion (not to mention a couple times in-between). I can't predict when a team might come open, but our first offers will be to people who have expressed interest here.

[Windy City Fan]

I'll take the Oakland Coliseum as my stadium.

[The Dude]

If you guys ever need someone to step it on short notice, I'll be available.

[catcher24]

If you guys ever need someone to step it on short notice, I'll be available.

Dude - Geez, it would be great to have you back. Sorry you didn't post this up a couple of days ago. Keep checking, you never know.

[catcher24]

Just a quick note to welcome both Windy City Fan and Sanket. Hope you guys stick around for a few seasons and find this league as enjoyable as I have. Welcome aboard!:waving

[leecemark]

--Wil, glad you're back at BBF. You'll defiinately get the first call if anybody drops out.

[-Kyle-]

Aww man...now I feel bad for appropiating the team. :(

If someone drops out, Dude can take back the Gamblers and I'll take the extra team.

[The Dude]

Aww man...now I feel bad for appropiating the team. :(

If someone drops out, Dude can take back the Gamblers and I'll take the extra team.

Don't feel bad at all; if you offer me the Gamblers, I'll refuse them. Just like in real life, some GM's don't spend their whole career with any one team. Besides, you took the Gamblers to their best season. That's your team.

[catcher24]

Yes, Kyle did well with the Gamblers and seems to be building a very decent team. I think the new Chadwick Division will be most interesting, with the Gamblers, Angels and Shoeless Joes all building good teams. Who will get there first?

And I didn't put it in my post, but I certainly second Mark's comment that it's good to see you back at BBF, Wil! Feel free to add your comments at any time.

[leecemark]

--The makeup of the new division assures us of having a new team make the playoffs in 1969, as none of the members have been there before. That will be the first time since the Gold Sox first appearance in 1964 that a new team has joined the playoff club. Actually I suppose that is only partically true if its the Angels, since they took over the Cannons franchise which had made 3 Wild Card appearances before their ownership collapsed.

[-Kyle-]

Everything pretty much lined up for me in 1967. I had a surplus of good hitters, and alright pitchers. I picked up some average bullpen guys but thats it.

I also had a pretty bad one last year. It was rebuilding, but still awful.

If I have an alright year this year...THEN it will be to my credit. :D

[jkc32]

I think the new Chadwick Division will be most interesting, with the Gamblers, Angels and Shoeless Joes all building good teams. Who will get there first?

I'm optimistic about the 1969 Shoeless Joe's. With 4 quality starters (Bosman, Gibson, Carlton, & Peterson), a decent closer (Hall), several solid hitters (White, Johnson, Howard, & Perez), and the prospect of potentially pulling back a few role players, anything less than the playoffs is UNACCEPTABLE.

Shoeless has lots of depth and can help any team looking to upgrade their keepers (i.e. Wilhelm, Reed, Ray, Cepeda, Helms, Mincher, Pena, etc.) Most have salaries below value...I'm looking strictly for future picks and can be reached at: clark444@comsouth.net

[-Kyle-]

^

I am making a half-way run this year, I think my hitters depth will be close to your's (Killebrew, Davis, definitly Petrocelli maybe, are the better ones but I have potential 4 players with 115 OPS+ to 135)

Your pitching murder's mine though. Except for closer (Perranoski 119 IP and 176 ERA+) but your starters are brutal.

And I would be contacting you right now if you weren't in my division (you would definitly turn me down).

[ColonelTom]

Hey folks, Dan ("Erik Bedard" on the board) pointed me to this league - alas, the openings filled in the three days it took me to discover his email reply had been relegated to my Yahoo spam folder. :ughh Anyway, I'm a diehard Phillies fan (is there any other kind?) and a longtime DMB gamer, and would love to be on the list if you need an owner to take over an expansion or existing team at any point. Thanks very much for your consideration!

[Erik Bedard]

Tom, glad you found the place. The opening did fill pretty quickly, quicker than they have in the past. I'll let you know if a spot opens up.

[jkc32]

^
And I would be contacting you right now if you weren't in my division (you would definitly turn me down).

I'm an equal opportunity trader...definately willing to deal within the same division. Shoot me an email with who you want/need.

[thelehm]

If so I would be interested in joining. I am currently involved in (3) other DMB leagues and would love another.
Wasn't sure in reading info whether the games are typically played h2h or if they are simmed. Would prefer h2h.
Have a good night.

Steve

[leecemark]

--They are simmed, but we are full up with another person on standby at this time. If you stick around BBF keep an eye on the league. Somthing may open up.

[jaybird_1981]

Hey guys I just stumbled across this website about a week ago and since I have read it almost nonstop. I am very interested in this sim league that you are running and I know all slots have been filled but would like to throw my name in the hat if there is a dropout or future expansion. I know this is my first post here but me being active will not be a problem. I have read almost all the threads in this sub forum and love the draft threads!
A little background on myself I am 26 years old and have been around baseball since I was in diapers. I started playing the Statis Pro Baseball board game when I was 10, by replaying the 87' season and found my dads APBA baseball game in the attic when I was about 12 and started playing that. After a couple years I created my own cards for the Statis Pro game so I could play in a league much like this except I was drafting for all teams, not that challenging lol.
I understand the hesitation of letting a newbie get involved but I will prove over the coming months that I will be active! Sorry for the long read, good luck on the upcoming 69' season!

Jason

[leecemark]

--Welcome to BBF. Hope you enjoy it. If you have established yourself as a regular contributor by the time an opening comes along then we'd be happy to consider you.

[catcher24]

Jason - Thanks for the post and personal info. I hope you continue to monitor the league and you would certainly be considered for a future opening - with the caveat that the first opening will, at least IMHO, go to Wil, former owner of the Gamblers. He was with us for several seasons and had to drop out for a time, but I think all the league's longest running owners would welcome him back without hesitation.

BTW, if you're interested at all, feel free to check out the league website, designed and maintained by yours truly. You can find it HERE (http://www.geocities.com/lougehrig24/).
Some of the links won't be working right now as I'm updating and making a few changes, but you still might find it interesting.

[jaybird_1981]

Jason - Thanks for the post and personal info. I hope you continue to monitor the league and you would certainly be considered for a future opening - with the caveat that the first opening will, at least IMHO, go to Wil, former owner of the Gamblers. He was with us for several seasons and had to drop out for a time, but I think all the league's longest running owners would welcome him back without hesitation.

BTW, if you're interested at all, feel free to check out the league website, designed and maintained by yours truly. You can find it HERE (http://www.geocities.com/lougehrig24/).
Some of the links won't be working right now as I'm updating and making a few changes, but you still might find it interesting.


Yeah I understand I will have to wait my turn but I will be around and I had already checked out the website very cool. A lot of home runs hit in 61' huh!

Jason

[leecemark]

--A team has opened up. We need an owner immediately. Jaybird, you were pretty enthusiastic a couple months ago but I haven't seen you around BBF since. If you are still lurking and interested you get the first chance.

[ColonelTom]

Hey y'all,

Dan Malone pointed me to this site a couple of months back, but I missed out on the last opening. I'm an experienced DMB owner, and I've helped out with league operations (running sims, writing website material such as game/series summaries, etc.) in numerous leagues. I'd greatly enjoy the chance to do a historic keeper sim. Email at parker_tom at yahoo dot com. Thanks!

-- Tom Parker

[leecemark]

Tom, we've an offer open to a previous applicant. If he doesn't get back to us in a reasonable time you could have the team.

[ColonelTom]

Sounds good - I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks!

[jaybird_1981]

Hey I was notified about the opening of a team and would like to say yes I am still interested and sorry it took me a couple days to post this but right now I am in Afghanistan and have been really busy with work as one of our servers went down, but now that that is fixed. I am pretty free so I could devout plenty of time to this and would love to try! Thanks guy!

Jason

[catcher24]

I think the team will go to Jaybird, since he had expressed interest previously. But please keep an eye on this thread ColonelTom, because there may be another opening coming up. And of course, the final determination is with Mark.

[leecemark]

--Jaybird was first on the list and does get the Angels. As Lew indicated though we may have another opening sooner rather than later though, so please stand by.

[ColonelTom]

I'll keep checking in periodically. Thanks for keeping me in mind, and hopefully I'll be joining the league sooner rather than later! :)

[leecemark]

Tom, still haven't heard back from you since awarding you the Diablos. If you are still interested please get in touch as soon as possible. We need reliable ownership for the team heading into the offseason.

[ColonelTom]

If the team's still available, I'll definitely take it.

[leecemark]

--Tom just e-mailed me to say he wasn't going to have time to participate after all. The Diablos are once again available. That franchise is actually in pretty good shape. A good owner could have them contending fairly quickly.

[catcher24]

Owners are dropping like flies all of a sudden. Too bad. I sure would like to get 16 who all stayed for several seasons.

[leecemark]

--I would love to see 16 people committed to the league for the long haul. Realistically I'd be happy if we only need to worry about finding an owner or two per offseason though. This league does require a fair amount of time commitment to be competitive and people have so many other things going on that all of us can't manage that. We have added some great new owners through the recent turnover and I'm hopefull that we will find some more this offseason.

[catcher24]

Mark, if Philkid3 takes a team, you might offer him a choice, as long as we need two owners anyway. Tom had taken the Diablos so the new owner could choose between them and Appletonia. Or maybe Ed would like one of those two teams!:D Just to get out of the Hulbert. Tough choice, because there is stiff competition in all divisions at this point.

[leecemark]

--We have just completed the 1969 season. We have two teams that need ownership immediately. If interested please speak up now.

[buppers]

Or maybe Ed would like one of those two teams!:D Just to get out of the Hulbert. Tough choice, because there is stiff competition in all divisions at this point.

Is that an option? :)

Seriously, why would I abandon the Badgers now? Once you show a perspective owner the team he would get he would be running for the hills.
In truth, I would have probably have done better waiting for the expansion before taking a team but in stepping in when needed I feel I have shown that I am more interested in participating than in just looking to win.
(Easy to say since I won't be winning for awhile :dance)

Ed

[catcher24]

Ed - I think it's great that you feel that way (about being as interested in participating in our league as in winning). If we had 16 owners who felt as you do, we would never need to look for a replacement. And you may be winning sooner than you think. The Legends have a LOT of guys coming up as free agents in the next two years (Jenkins, Hands, Smith, Monday - among others) and will trying hard to remain competitive while retooling, but it remains to be seen if I'll be able to do as well as Mac and Mark have done in that situation.:)

[buppers]

As my team stands now, I am more interested in offseason activities than in the games.
When you are as mediocre as the Badgers the worst thing you can do is win games.
That may sound counterintuitive but due to an early run of winning baseball I felt I could and should go all out and win as much as possible. That along with NOT tanking games against SOME teams and not others has led me to the unenviable position of drafting 5th. With some careful PT usage, I could have made it to 3rd, or even 2nd.

Of course, I can always look for an opening, such as when Blueblood is bored again. Maybe he would like to trade #1 :rofl:

You won't be seeing anymore 23 million contracts, such as with Stargell, thats for sure.

Ed

[Brad Harris]

Definitely interested in becoming an active participant in this! What do I have to do?

[leecemark]

Brad, just sent you a PM laying out the time commitment, etc. Take a good look at our set up and if you are still interested you can have a team heading into out offseason activities - starting up in the next week or so.

[Erik Bedard]

Are we going to be giving away the Redbirds? If so, then I think that since they have the best team, they should go to the first applicant (Philkid), unless he wants the Diablos or Appletonia.

[leecemark]

--Philkid has accepted the Diablos. Classic willbe joining us as the new owner of the Redbirds. Appletonia remains available to a any applicant willing to take over a team that has some serious work to do before they are ready for contention.

[catcher24]

Brad - Hey, great to have you aboard old friend! You're taking over a team with some real potential - and the possibility of giving Mark a real pain this season.:nod::laugh

[Brad Harris]

Brad - Hey, great to have you aboard old friend! You're taking over a team with some real potential - and the possibility of giving Mark a real pain this season.:nod::laugh
Aww...rats. You mean my motives are that obvious? ;) :laugh

Looking forward to getting my feet wet this season.

[runningshoes]

Hi guys,

I'm going to be taking over the Orphans. I'm looking forward to building this team into a contender. Hopefully it won't take too long.

Troy

[leecemark]

--Welcome Troy. I'm sure you'll have the Orphans clicking before too long. You've got a pretty clean slate to start with anyway:).

[jterry619]

Welcome aboard Troy!

[catcher24]

Welcome, Troy, and good luck to you.:waving

[J W]

Troy, allright, double entendre! You should be Troy's Spartans and confuse everybody :D

[runningshoes]

Thanks guys,

Can't wait to get going.

[jaybird_1981]

Welcome Troy and Good Luck!

[leecemark]

-It was hello and good bye for Runningshoes. I always ask new applicants to make sure they have read the rules and understand what they are getting into before offering a team. Please be sure you do before accepting. I'd like to avoid these unfortunate situations. We do have a team immediately available for anyone willing to make a commitment to it.

[-Kyle-]

I ALMOST quit right when I first joined...I know what if feels like. :o

[catcher24]

-It was hello and good bye for Runningshoes. I always ask new applicants to make sure they have read the rules and understand what they are getting into before offering a team. Please be sure you do before accepting. I'd like to avoid these unfortunate situations. We do have a team immediately available for anyone willing to make a commitment to it.

I think reading the rules can leave one with the impression that the league is really a daunting project, when in reality it isn't. All the other owners are more than willing to help, and once an owner goes through one off season routine it becomes apparent that it's not as hard as it sounds - at least I think not. Having been around since the beginning I might be thinking it's easier than it really is.

[-Kyle-]

I think reading the rules can leave one with the impression that the league is really a daunting project, when in reality it isn't. All the other owners are more than willing to help, and once an owner goes through one off season routine it becomes apparent that it's not as hard as it sounds - at least I think not. Having been around since the beginning I might be thinking it's easier than it really is.

You really have to implant yourself in this decade and do a lot of research and strategies on how players may translate to the sim, think about future deals, manage salaries and all that together is very overwhelming when you first join. You get into a groove eventually though.

[buppers]

There is a learning curve. Like you said, after 1 season it gets easier. But there are still lots on times when it is unnerving. Such as whether to go for it or trade, trade, trade.

Ed

[Erik Bedard]

I was on the verge of getting kicked out when I first joined, due to my parents deciding it would be a good idea to drive to New Mexico for two weeks. But I didn't, and I'm still here.

[catcher24]

I was on the verge of getting kicked out when I first joined, due to my parents deciding it would be a good idea to drive to New Mexico for two weeks. But I didn't, and I'm still here.

And we're glad you are!:thumbsup::)

[dust bunnies]

I am interested in joining the league. I have had experience with DM before, and was referred to this site by T. Frame.

Jack Reed

[leecemark]

Jack, glad you finally managed to get through the BBF hoops. Have you had a chance to read up on our bylaws? Tonight is the wrap up of our free agent activity. I'm just headed out to work so don't have much time to go over thiongs with you. I've been handling the Orpahns offseason activity and have a bunch ofbids open right now. If you have time scroll through the free agent auction thread and let me know what you think. I'll try and check in at lunch, but otherwise won't be home til near the deadline to confer.
Good Luck, Mark

[catcher24]

I am interested in joining the league. I have had experience with DM before, and was referred to this site by T. Frame.

Jack Reed

Jack - It would be great to have you, but I strongly encourage you to take some time today, read over the league bylaws and off season thread (at least the last 20 or so posts), and as Mark suggests look over the free agent bid thread. The reason I recommend this is that we've had three owners who joined the league, only to leave within days because they felt it was too hard and/or required too much time.

Should you decide the CKL is for you, by all means welcome aboard!:waving I would be glad to help any way I can. I'll be in and out today, but if you have a question post it or PM me. If you post it, Mark, myself or another owner will answer it. All of the owners in the league are most helpful. Hope you decide to join us.

[dust bunnies]

Yes, I would like to join.

If I read things right, I suspect that for the 1970 season, the rookie draft is done, and the premium FA auction will be done tonight. After I am assigned the unowned team, I assume I will participate in the secondary FA auction, whenever that starts. Please advise if I am incorrect. BTW, I'm surprised the unowned team drafted in the middle of the group. It looks pretty weak to me. Is there a posting of last year's setup, records, etc.?

Thanks.

Jack Reed

[Windy City Fan]

The Orphans had the third worst record in the league last year, but they apparently traded their first round pick in thsi year's draft. Not sure what they got in return and which owner made the trade.

The premium free agent auction is already over. It was conducted last Friday. Tonight is the end of the secondary free agent auction. Any free agents after tonight's auction closes can be signed on a first come, first serve basis.

[catcher24]

Windy City Fan is correct. You may post as many bids as you wish in a single post prior to 8PM tonight. Beginning at 8PM, only one bid per post is permitted, and the last 15 to 20 minutes becomes very hectic.

Once the results of the free agent auction are posted (it usually takes me about 20 minutes after the auction ends at 9PM), any remaining free agents can be signed, first come first served, at a salary of 250K per season for 1 to 3 seasons (owner's discretion).

For a complete history, go to the league web site HERE (http://diamondmindckl.lewssite.net/). Clicking on either encyclopedia link will take you to the league's Diamond Mind encyclopedia, and everything (or a lot) from the beginning is there.

BTW, do you have the Diamond Mind game? I'm trying to get the web pages for the owners who do not have the game done first, so that I can create individualized reports for any owner who wants one. Of course if you have the DM game you can do those yourself, although I will eventually have a page done for each team.

[dust bunnies]

I had hoped to be assigned the Orphan team in time to make a few deals. I am still very interested in managing the Orphan team, but will not be available tonight.

If I am assigned this team, I am willing to trade B. Veal. Also, as far as I'm concerned, my bids can be left as posted. I would be joining this team too late to have much impact on my team's roster for 1970. I will be an active trader, however.

Jack Reed

[leecemark]

--They will be all yours after tonight. The previous owner left a horrible mess. I've run their offseason and tried to give you a decent foundation, but avoiding 100 losses will be the most realistic goal for 1970. I'll get you the updated league file after the wrap up of free agent activty tonite and you can take it form there.