View Full Version : Big Z trimmed, primed for Cy Young push...
Well I recently saw the first Spring Training photo of Carlos, and it does appear that he has dropped some weight.
http://www.ajclay.com/PTC/pictures/197.jpg
http://www.ajclay.com/PTC/pictures/196.jpg
HE also said recently that his goal is to win 20 games, and make a legit push for the Cy Young award.
Hmmz, pipe dreams? Well I think that is why we set goals.... to push ourself, but with a healthy team, it could happen....
But healthy.... hmmz now that is a pipe dream.
:)
E.Banks#14
02-26-2006, 10:29 AM
Maybe that slimmer body will equate to a few more triples this year. :D
Carlos will win 20 games... just when he will do that I'm not sure. He's one of the most talented pitchers in the majors (and Prior's right up there with him); if he can get everything together and get some consistent run support, he'll win 20 games.
Maybe that slimmer body will equate to a few more triples this year. :D
Carlos will win 20 games... just when he will do that I'm not sure. He's one of the most talented pitchers in the majors (and Prior's right up there with him); if he can get everything together and get some consistent run support, he'll win 20 games.
I just hope he is wearing the Cubs red, white and blue when it happens.
:)
ndistops
02-26-2006, 11:21 AM
Not carrying that extra weight will help Z's back troubles. I expect him to win at least 20 games this year if he gets any help at all from his offense.
redwhitenblue
02-26-2006, 11:37 AM
i'll admit when someone said he slimmed down earlier i said "yeah he slimmed down last year too but he wasn't 'slim'"...but my god he looks fantastic...hopefully he doens't lose any of that power;)...i think if the offense is even semi-improved he has a legit shot at 20 and if this team can sneak into the playoffs he's got to be a big contender for the CY
Bob Sacamento
02-26-2006, 11:39 AM
Not carrying that extra weight will help Z's back troubles. I expect him to win at least 20 games this year if he gets any help at all from his offense.
Zambrano has pitched to the level of a 20 game winner for the past few years. He just hasn't gotten the run support or bullpen help to solidify it. Wins are the most overrated stat to judge a pitcher by. As long as Z still has a dandy ERA, WHIP, quality starts, BAA, K/BB then I'll be happy no matter his record.
ndistops
02-26-2006, 01:39 PM
Zambrano has pitched to the level of a 20 game winner for the past few years. He just hasn't gotten the run support or bullpen help to solidify it. Wins are the most overrated stat to judge a pitcher by. As long as Z still has a dandy ERA, WHIP, quality starts, BAA, K/BB then I'll be happy no matter his record.
I wholeheartedly agree that wins are hideously overrated, however, the people who vote for the Cy Young look at wins. The only reason Prior didn't win the Cy in 2003 was because he had 18 wins instead of 20. As much as I hate how important wins are, the fact is that Z's best shot at winning the Cy is winning 20 games. But, like you I am more concerned with his ERA, K/BB, etc.
Cubsfan97
02-27-2006, 06:35 AM
I would rather see Zambrano win 18 games and have a low ERA and WHIP and not win the Cy Young, than see him win with 20 wins and a high ERA and WHIP.
Lipsander
03-01-2006, 10:03 AM
I don't think you can find anyone with more heart than Zambrano. He rules.
KCGHOST
03-01-2006, 02:18 PM
He's been one of the best pitchers in the NL for the last three years. If Cub fans would shut up about Prior and Wood and talk about a guy who has really delivered he would get noticed.
Cubsfan97
03-01-2006, 02:50 PM
Well unfortunately Zambrano won't win the Cy Young becuase Prior will be ay his bets this year! lol. I hope he is.
Bob Sacamento
03-01-2006, 02:53 PM
Well unfortunately Zambrano won't win the Cy Young becuase Prior will be ay his bets this year! lol. I hope he is.
I honestly wouldn't be suprised if both finished in the Top 5 of the NL Cy Young award.
Lipsander
03-01-2006, 03:08 PM
If both pitchers do that, then you know where our team will be. That would be nice.
ndistops
03-01-2006, 03:37 PM
I would rather see Zambrano win 18 games and have a low ERA and WHIP and not win the Cy Young, than see him win with 20 wins and a high ERA and WHIP.
How about a compromise? 23 wins with a sub-2.50 ERA and a sub-0.75 WHIP. ;)
Cubsfan97
03-02-2006, 06:33 AM
How about a compromise? 23 wins with a sub-2.50 ERA and a sub-0.75 WHIP. ;)
That sounds great. All we need is run support and we shoukld have plenty of that this year.
Chisox73
03-02-2006, 07:35 PM
That sure didn't look like Z out there when I saw the pic.
Seriously,I think that he could win 20 if he stays healthy and gets more than adequate run support.
Southlake CubsFan
03-06-2006, 09:46 PM
itd be nice if prior and z both stay heathly, and both win 20 games..thatd be AMAZING!
Kurant
03-13-2006, 11:55 AM
Sorry to tell you, but run support has nothing to do with big Z winning 20 games.
It's all bullpen. Cubs bullpen for as long as I've been a Cubs fan has just been horrible. I don't know where you'd track a stat like that, but I bet you Z had 20 wins pre-Cubs-super-hero-bullpen.
BTW.. Did they fire Dusty yet? Wishes I guess.
Dazed & Confused
03-13-2006, 08:38 PM
Big Z with a great performance today for venezuela against a very good puerto rico team. 4 ip and 2 hit
redwhitenblue
03-13-2006, 11:44 PM
Sorry to tell you, but run support has nothing to do with big Z winning 20 games.
It's all bullpen. Cubs bullpen for as long as I've been a Cubs fan has just been horrible. I don't know where you'd track a stat like that, but I bet you Z had 20 wins pre-Cubs-super-hero-bullpen.
BTW.. Did they fire Dusty yet? Wishes I guess.
go count up how many times Z gave up 3 or less runs in a game and lost...i think for him run support was pathetic