View Full Version : Which player has the most errors in his career?
wilkerson_rulz-06
02-23-2006, 03:20 PM
Anyone know?
KCGHOST
02-23-2006, 03:48 PM
Herman Long racked up 1036 from 1889 - 1904.
If you want modern era only Honus Wagner is the man with 736 errors.
SABR Matt
02-23-2006, 04:15 PM
And both of those are considered outstanding major league shortstops. Herman Long may have been the best EVER!
I'm curious as to what the definition of an error was back then. The reason I bring this up is because it seems to me that once modern gloves became used the errors decreased. Fancy plays probably became more common as well. I'm just curious as to how much the glove might have affected the fielders when it came to errors and how much the definition of an error might have changed since then.
Brian McKenna
02-26-2006, 08:13 AM
the definition of an error was in each scorer's head
Bill Burgess
03-10-2006, 08:25 AM
And both of those are considered outstanding major league shortstops. Herman Long may have been the best EVER!
And this is why I have long been forgiving of "errors". Here's my slogan.
"Errors in the service of hard plays are no vice, and error-free play, in playing it risk-free and safe, is no virtue."
Anyone get me on that?
Bill Burgess
PS. Who are our 10 most committed statmen on Fever? Anyone hazard a try?
SABR Matt
03-10-2006, 08:50 AM
I think I'm pretty "commited" if by committed you mean dedicated to the work.
leecemark
03-10-2006, 08:55 AM
--Not sure what that has to do with most errors but, ....I'd say it depends what you mean by committed. There are some posters who rely almost completely on numbers and some who really understand all the advanced metrics and know how to apply them. A few posters fall into both categories, but some how are all about the numbers have a limited understanding of the advanced ones and some who understand them have a more balanced approach.
Bill Burgess
03-10-2006, 09:12 AM
I don't hang out much in this forum, but it seems to me that Matt, Dave Kent and Cubbieinexile are statmen, and I was wondering who anyone else might be. That's all I was curious about. I didn't intend for this question to get over-analyzed, processed and homogenized to smithereens.
Oh, and this has nothing to do with errors, by the way. I was detouring.
SABR Matt
03-10-2006, 11:06 AM
I haven't seen cubbieinexile here in almost a year. Where'd he go?
Other statheads...to varying degrees are Ubiquitus, misterdirt (although his statishness is more that he understands them, not that he swears by them as much), and barzilla...don't know if you'd call RuthMayBond a statman, but he does have some working knowledge of basic sabermetrics and interest in pursuing them, and you've got a few other less frequent posters (Chancellor, redoctober, and probably a few I'm forgetting)
Ubiquitous
03-10-2006, 11:35 AM
Cubbieinexile has never left.
SABR Matt
03-10-2006, 11:52 AM
Why do I never see him post?
Ubiquitous
03-10-2006, 11:56 AM
You do see him post all the time.
SABR Matt
03-10-2006, 11:57 AM
He changed screennames?
SABR Matt
03-10-2006, 11:57 AM
Or...would that be YOU. :)
Bill Burgess
03-10-2006, 12:25 PM
Or...would that be YOU. :)
Not to be taken for real. Cubbie had a different writing style. Was much more into stats, and Ubi is more into reasoning, sans stats. So, I think I could discern the different levels of expressing themselves.
Ubi is not Cubbie. But nice try, Ubi. I do enjoy the nice chutzpah.
Bill
RuthMayBond
03-10-2006, 12:30 PM
You do see him post all the time.He hasn't posted under that name since Sep. 15
Bill Burgess
03-10-2006, 01:00 PM
He hasn't posted under that name since Sep. 15
Fever MYSTERY! Love it. Will he be unmasked?
cubbieinexile
03-10-2006, 03:55 PM
He hasn't posted under that name since Sep. 15
I do believe I posted under that name today.
RuthMayBond
03-10-2006, 05:07 PM
I do believe I posted under that name today.First time under that name since Sep. 15, unless you're fiddling with the profiles
Bill Burgess
03-10-2006, 06:16 PM
I do believe I posted under that name today.
What the? This is giving me the creeps. Who for art thou, and what have you done with the real Cubbie?
Bill
538280
03-10-2006, 08:45 PM
Ubiquitous, all though you do sound a little bit different than Cubbie used to, I'm pretty sure you are indeed the former Cubbieinexile. You have made references to a few threads "you" started that were actually started under the name Cubbieinexile (particularly a thread entitled "The New Bill James").
Ubiquitous
03-10-2006, 09:19 PM
I am me and have always been me. My style has never changed only peoples perception of it has.