Echoes of OUR Ebbets Field in Queens!

[DODGER DEB]

The NY Daily News is reporting today that it looks like Fred Wilpon, Chairman/CEO of the NY Mets, will finally get his Ebbets Field of Dreams!

The design for the Mets new $600 million stadium will evoke "the look and feel" of OUR beloved Ebbets Field, home of OUR BROOKLYN DODGERS. It will even include a "360 Rotunda", similar to OUR Rotunda. Read more...

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/391875p-332277c.html

c.

[theAmazingMet]

Yeah, I red this in today's paper. Such good news, but who knows how long it will take to build. Another good side-point to this stadium getting built is the city's plans to revitalize Willets Point and clear out all the scrapyards, so people will have things to do before, and after the game in the immediate area. Newsday had an article about this during the summer, and it included pics of what the stadium should look like. While the outside will resemble Ebbets Field the inside looked too utalitarian, and impersonal. Hopefully that look changes. Anything is better than Shea however. I just hope they continue to honor Bill Shea (whose efforts to force the NL to give back a NY franchise MUST NEVER be forgotten!) by naming the new stadium after him, and not naming it "Sell-out Stadium" or "7-11 Field" or any other stupid corporate name. Remember it was NL president Warren Giles who said "We don't need New York". Thankfully Bill Shea was smarter and more determined than those who tore the heart out of the city by allowing not one but two storied franchises to leave in the name of the almighty buck.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

I don't want to spoil your party...
But IMO this is just another retro ballpark.

I guess the Brooklyn Dogers fans can give an answer to my question. Do you really think that this new ballpark will have the same athmosphere as Ebbets Field? When I read your posts, when I see the pictures of Ebbets Field, I get the feeling that Ebbets Field was unique in every way. I think no clone can represent that.

Just my two cents.

[DODGER DEB]

I don't want to spoil your party...
But IMO this is just another retro ballpark.

I guess the Brooklyn Dogers fans can give an answer to my question. Do you really think that this new ballpark will have the same athmosphere as Ebbets Field? When I read your posts, when I see the pictures of Ebbets Field, I get the feeling that Ebbets Field was unique in every way. I think no clone can represent that.

Just my two cents.


The answer to your question, yr....NO!!!

Nothing will ever bring back that wonderful feeling WE felt each time WE entered!

OUR EBBETS FIELD was ONE of a KIND.....and will remain just that!

c.

[Mattingly]

The answer to your question, yr....NO!!!

Nothing will ever bring back that wonderful feeling WE felt each time WE entered!

OUR EBBETS FIELD was ONE of a KIND.....and will remain just that!

c.
In that case, let me ask this very person question re Ebbets Field:

Do you think it's a good or a bad idea that the Mets are trying to recreate that kind of atmosphere?

[The Real McCoy]

This is akin to someone other than Tony Bennett singing "I Left My Heart in San Francisco." This is like those ersatz "'50s" diners in the 1980s that were all gleam and glitter and recalled absolutely nothing about eating sausage and eggs and homefries at 4:30 AM on a Saturday morning. There's only one first love, one first drink (probably Seven and seven), one first big league game and there certainly was, is, and will forever be, only one Ebbets Field.

What we'll get here is some lackluster attempt at recreating a time, a field and an aura of a team and a borough that it is impossible, under any circumstances, to recreate. It was a time and place that is better left to our memories and this sure-to-be-a-botch job of what for many of us are inviolate experiences is simply another bureaucratic disaster waiting to happen. And it's in Queens, for God's sakes.

Give the Mets their stadium. Let them keep Dodger Blue as part of their colors, but don't mess with saints and shrines. And if and when it happens, as it probably will, make sure they get Wayne Newton to sing "I Left My Heart in San Francisco."

[DODGER DEB]

In that case, let me ask this very person question re Ebbets Field:

Do you think it's a good or a bad idea that the Mets are trying to recreate that kind of atmosphere?

While I don't think it is a completely bad idea, I don't see it as a good one either. Here it is nearly 50 years since they took OUR DODGERS from US, and 46 years since they felt the need to flatten OUR Home, and still people cling to having a piece of OUR proud history. To me, that is truly amazing!

Fred Wilpon was one of US back then. He loved OUR DODGERS as much as WE did. Now that he is the sole decision maker, I think he is living out his fantasy...and that isn't all bad! I only wish I could live out mine! Though it may "look like" OUR Ebbets Field, they will never be able to recreate the atmosphere and "smell" of OUR home. All of that when down with the bulldozer.

There will always and forever be only one EBBETS FIELD! It was all OURS...and WE are the very proud ones, and the only ones, that can make that statement.

c.

[Mattingly]

While I don't think it is a completely bad idea, I don't see it as a good one either. Here it is nearly 50 years since they took OUR DODGERS from US, and 46 years since they felt the need to flatten OUR Home, and still people cling to having a piece of OUR proud history. To me, that is truly amazing!

Fred Wilpon was one of US back then. He loved OUR DODGERS as much as WE did. Now that he is the sole decision maker, I think he is living out his fantasy...and that isn't all bad! I only wish I could live out mine! Though it may "look like" OUR Ebbets Field, they will never be able to recreate the atmosphere and "smell" of OUR home. All of that when down with the bulldozer.

There will always and forever be only one EBBETS FIELD! It was all OURS...and WE are the very proud ones, and the only ones, that can make that statement.
Very strong words, and ones which I greatly cherish and admire! :D

BTW, I'd meant "personal" re baseball, not "person". My bad.

Anyway, if at least the new stadium (presuming it's even built, with the way zoning requirements, community board approval, taxpayer dollars, etc in NYC goes, if say this were magically built and looked very much like Ebbets Field (sans the trollies and 1950s cars), do you think you could go there and have a hot dog? Peanuts? Get used to it, and dare I say, even enjoy it?

I hope I'm not being rude, but I just wanted to know just how much would you allow yourself to actually like this place, if it at least made a decent appeal to resemble Ebbets Field in a way.

Thanks again for your honesty, your time. :)

[Elvis]

I'm assuming it will pretty much resemble the already released drawings, except that the Olympic Stadium add-on obviously won't be done. I like the idea of the extended-canopy roof (seen on the third-base and RF stands) that I'm assuming is an ode to the older ballparks with longer roofs than modern ballparks. I wonder if the grandstands will come around in left field all the way to center, and if the RF wall and scoreboard will be like Ebbets Field too, or if they're just going to mimic the exterior design and have a completely different interior design. I'm looking forward to the release of the "final" concept.

http://www.ballparktour.com/new_mets_21.jpg

[strummer]

NO! A THOUSAND TIMES, NO!! This will never be the same as Ebbets Field, but only those of us who were there will know that, and there are fewer and fewer of us each year. This is a great attempt to keep the image and legend of Ebbets Field and the Brooklyn Dodgers alive and "touchable" for all those baseball fans who never saw the real thing, and the many who come afterward.

[Mattingly]

NO! A THOUSAND TIMES, NO!! This will never be the same as Ebbets Field, but only those of us who were there will know that, and there are fewer and fewer of us each year. This is a great attempt to keep the image and legend of Ebbets Field and the Brooklyn Dodgers alive and "touchable" for all those baseball fans who never saw the real thing, and the many who come afterward.
I'm curious, are you replying to a specific forumer who's posted here? Are you saying that Ebbets Field will never be replaced? I'd definitely believe you if that's the point you're making.

Are you saying that making a stadium--if built--look somewhat like Ebbets Field, that would be a good or bad idea?

[Elvis]

I'm curious, are you replying to a specific forumer who's posted here? Are you saying that Ebbets Field will never be replaced? I'd definitely believe you if that's the point you're making.

Are you saying that making a stadium--if built--look somewhat like Ebbets Field, that would be a good or bad idea?

I believe it's in response to Yankees rule's question:

"""Do you really think that this new ballpark will have the same athmosphere as Ebbets Field?"""

[strummer]

OK Let me clarify. I do not believe that whatever is built will in any way replace the Ebbets Field of our memories, at least for those of us who were there. You cannot replace with something new, that is not an exact replic, the pictures imbedded in our minds of what we saw 50 years ago. That being said, I feel it is a good idea to try to do something similar to Ebbets Field (and to say so) because that continues the story and allows those who have never experienced the thrill of seeing a game in Ebbets Field to come that much closer to the experience. It also will continue the stories of the Brooklyn Dodgers and Ebbets Field as those attending games played in the new structure are reminded each time they go there that this structure was built with the image of Ebbets Field in mind, and that's the place where those bums, the Brooklyn Dodgers, played many years ago.

[jaykay]

As several of you have stated or implied, it was the "atmosphere" that made Ebbets Field unique - and that can never be recovered, even if a franchise rebuilt Ebbets Field, adding 10,000 seats, using state-of-the-art materials, installing a team called the Dodgers (LA or expansion, your choice), and setting the whole thing down gently in.....Brooklyn. You would have a semblance of surface appeal, and little or nothing else. You would not have MacPhail, Durocher, Red Barber, Rickey, Reese, Robinson.....I could go on and on.....You would not have Brooklyn of the 1940s and 1950s, which was also special in its way - not only for the ballclub that won consistently, but for the neighborhoods in which we (the complainers, the agonizers) were young and coming of age, places that perhaps we now pine for more each day, as those days dwindle down to a precious few. When we talk about "Ebbets Field" we mean a way of life that seemed to have been good for most of us, with the Dodgers contributing prominently. The ballpark itself was kind of makeshift and claptrap from the earliest time we knew it. The teams of the 1920s and 1930s were generally woeful, and you did not hear those who were adult during that time yearning for the Dodgers of old, or for Brooklyn of old. We were just the right age to know Brooklyn at its best, and the Dodgers at their best.
So, by my reckoning, you can make a ballpark that looks like the old one, you can build it anywhere, you can even call it Ebbets Field - but it misses by a mile. What's missing? Brooklyn - let's say 1938-1957 - and the Brooklyn Dodgers.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

As several of you have stated or implied, it was the "atmosphere" that made Ebbets Field unique - and that can never be recovered, even if a franchise rebuilt Ebbets Field, adding 10,000 seats, using state-of-the-art materials, installing a team called the Dodgers (LA or expansion, your choice), and setting the whole thing down gently in.....Brooklyn. You would have a semblance of surface appeal, and little or nothing else. You would not have MacPhail, Durocher, Red Barber, Rickey, Reese, Robinson.....I could go on and on.....You would not have Brooklyn of the 1940s and 1950s, which was also special in its way - not only for the ballclub that won consistently, but for the neighborhoods in which we (the complainers, the agonizers) were young and coming of age, places that perhaps we now pine for more each day, as those days dwindle down to a precious few. When we talk about "Ebbets Field" we mean a way of life that seemed to have been good for most of us, with the Dodgers contributing prominently. The ballpark itself was kind of makeshift and claptrap from the earliest time we knew it. The teams of the 1920s and 1930s were generally woeful, and you did not hear those who were adult during that time yearning for the Dodgers of old, or for Brooklyn of old. We were just the right age to know Brooklyn at its best, and the Dodgers at their best.
So, by my reckoning, you can make a ballpark that looks like the old one, you can build it anywhere, you can even call it Ebbets Field - but it misses by a mile. What's missing? Brooklyn - let's say 1938-1957 - and the Brooklyn Dodgers.

Even if you would get the Dodgers back from LA, they would not be the same Dodgers anymore.

For the rest of your post: You're absolutely right.

[DODGER DEB]

Even if you would get the Dodgers back from LA, they would not be the same Dodgers anymore.

For the rest of your post: You're absolutely right.


You are right, yr, WE don't want those dodgers back!

What WE want is OUR NAME "DODGERS", returned to BROOKLYN, where it was born and where it rightfully belongs!

Who knows, stranger things have happened!

c.

[Bluesteve32]

It seems to me that, for whatever reason, a new ballpark design that emulates Ebbets Field is some kind of homage to what existed in Brooklyn before their sudden departure by that carpetbagger O'Malley out my way.

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. ;)

Remember, Ebbets will never return and nothing would ever be the same, but the fact that some fifty years after the Dodger left, someone feels strongly enough abouth what existed as to try to retro that feel. That may be as close as you'll realistically get.

[tonypug]

If Whale Belly had been able to build his ballpark in Brooklyn in the 50's, it wouldn't have looked anything like Ebbets Field. If this new ballpark happens it is being done so new fans can get a little taste of history, there is nothing wrong with that. Wilpon has the money and the means to live out his dream and fantasy, more power to him.It's interesting to note, all the new ballparks of the 60's were built to accomodate large crowds. Now all the ballparks are being built smaller to create an ambience, that was natural to the old origonal ballparks. I guess as the old song goes all of lifes a circle.

[Bluesteve32]

Almost all of that 1960s-70 era's ballparks already have been imploded.

Chavez Ravine, Angel Stadium, Oakland Coliseum, Shea Stadium, Yankee Stadium and Royals Stadium (or whatever they call it nowadays)are the only ones still in use and look at what is in stor for these ballparks:

Yankee Stadium's current configuration was done in the mid-1970s and Georgie wants to have a new ballpark next door.

Oakland is in dire need of a new ballpark now famous for that monstrosity know at Mt Davis in centerfield. Plans are already in for a new A's ballpark which has been discussed in these forums on BF.

Shea Stadium looks like it may find the wrecking ball if the Mets get their psedo-Ebbets Field.

My bet is that 2016 will be the last for Angel Stadium as Arte Moreno will find another metro city to build a new ballpark.

Royals Stadium was unique because it was a baseball only facility built to similar dementions as the original Anaheim Stadium (but with astroturf and the waterfalls) some six years later. I can see Royals Stadium still being used in 2020, if the Royas are still in KC.

Chavez Ravine, despite rumors about McCourt wanting to change it into luxury condominiums, has the best chance of still being used in 2020 (other than KC), but that is not even a sure bet.

[Chef Bill]

My wife and I usually try to catch a Devil Rays game when we are in the Tampa area. Last year I took some pictures of Tropicana Field's entry, which I've read is supposed to recall the Marble Rotunda at Ebbets Field. I've seen some pictures of the Marble Rotunda on this site, and there doesn't seem to be much resemblance to me, but for those who haven't been to the "Trop", here it is...

[Elvis]

My wife and I usually try to catch a Devil Rays game when we are in the Tampa area. Last year I took some pictures of Tropicana Field's entry, which I've read is supposed to recall the Marble Rotunda at Ebbets Field. I've seen some pictures of the Marble Rotunda on this site, and there doesn't seem to be much resemblance to me, but for those who haven't been to the "Trop", here it is...

I remember reading that the only main inteneded similarity was that it was designed with the same size/dimensions as the rotunda in Ebbets Field.

[Chef Bill]

I remember reading that the only main inteneded similarity was that it was designed with the same size/dimensions as the rotunda in Ebbets Field.

From the Tampa Bay Devil Rays official website...

"Ebbets Field was an influence for Tropicana Field in two ways - one by coincidence, the other by design. Tropicana Field's asymmetrical outfield dimensions closely follow those of the Brooklyn Dodgers' old home; a fact that became evident only after those measurements had been determined. Conversely, Tropicana Field's grand, eight-story-high rotunda entrance is designed from the very blueprints used for the rotunda at Ebbets Field, built in 1913."

http://tampabay.devilrays.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/tb/ballpark/index.jsp

[Mattingly]

It's interesting to note, all the new ballparks of the 60's were built to accomodate large crowds. Now all the ballparks are being built smaller to create an ambience, that was natural to the old origonal ballparks. I guess as the old song goes all of lifes a circle.
That's another point I wanted to make but forgot whenever my hands touched the keyboard here.

Ebbets Field held only about 34-35,000 people, which made for its "homey" appearance where people were brought together in a relatively small group, rather than a larger area.

Even if the next version of Shea Stadium had some references to Ebbets Field, be it the Rotunda, or even the antennas (or whatever they're called) that were on top of the walls. Maybe even the Schaefer scoreboard. How would people here feel about a place that held 55,000, rather than 35,000? How much of the original appeal would be lost merely by its size alone? Please note, I'm not saying that Ebbets Field itself *COULD* ever be reproduced. Just asking how much would be lost by its sheer size alone.

[DODGER DEB]

That's another point I wanted to make but forgot whenever my hands touched the keyboard here.

Ebbets Field held only about 34-35,000 people, which made for its "homey" appearance where people were brought together in a relatively small group, rather than a larger area.

Even if the next version of Shea Stadium had some references to Ebbets Field, be it the Rotunda, or even the antennas (or whatever they're called) that were on top of the walls. Maybe even the Schaefer scoreboard. How would people here feel about a place that held 55,000, rather than 35,000? How much of the original appeal would be lost merely by its size alone? Please note, I'm not saying that Ebbets Field itself *COULD* ever be reproduced. Just asking how much would be lost by its sheer size alone.

If I may insert myself here, Matt!

Point of information: The new METS ballpark will hold only 42,500, which is much closer to OUR Ebbets Field in size than their present Shea Stadium.

c.

[Toy Boat]

If I may insert myself here, Matt!

Point of information: The new METS ballpark will hold only 42,500, which is much closer to OUR Ebbets Field in size than their present Shea Stadium.

c.

I also heard that and was surprised - pleasantly - when I heard it. That would barely make it larger than Fenway. I also heard that the upper deck of the new park is going to be closer to the field than the mezzanine of Shea is now. While I have mixed feelings of trying to replicate Ebbets (which would be even more mixed if I was a Brooklyn Dodgers fans like you guys are), I was very happy to hear about this. The new park is also supposed to have about 1600 standing room fans. My hope is that they keep the exterior similar to Ebbets, but make the interior something that is unique to the Mets.

[Mattingly]

If I may insert myself here, Matt!

Point of information: The new METS ballpark will hold only 42,500, which is much closer to OUR Ebbets Field in size than their present Shea Stadium.

c.
Sounds good. More like selling to the quality-bound who like the homey enviros, rather than another stadium w/the "pack 'em all in" kind of stadium seating.

Hopefully, a good day at ye ol' ballpark can be had by those who go there.

[tonypug]

My wife and I usually try to catch a Devil Rays game when we are in the Tampa area. Last year I took some pictures of Tropicana Field's entry, which I've read is supposed to recall the Marble Rotunda at Ebbets Field. I've seen some pictures of the Marble Rotunda on this site, and there doesn't seem to be much resemblance to me, but for those who haven't been to the "Trop", here it is...
Having been to both Ebbets Field and Tropicana Field many times, there is no similarity what so ever. Walking into the Trop brought back no memories of Ebbets Field.

[Elvis]

Details Emerge For New Mets Stadium

By JEFF FEINMAN


As pitchers and catchers head to Florida to join the Mets for Spring Training, the Queens Tribune has obtained a detailed report of the expected plans for the brand new stadium that will be home to the New York Mets. The $609 million stadium will hold 44,100 seats (an 11,900-seat reduction from Shea Stadium) and is expected to be ready for opening day 2009 after construction begins this summer.

The new stadium will be situated in the east parking lot of the current stadium, taking up approximately 74.5 acres. The design of the new stadium will emulate the historic Ebbets Field, former home of the Brooklyn Dodgers. As baseball fans and visitors flock to Met games, they will note that the stadium’s brick exterior will be lined with steel sculptures representing the many bridges that connect the different boroughs of New York City.

The New York Mets’ front office has not released any design plans or models of the new structure as of yet.
Mets’ VP of Media Relations Jay Horowitz said that he and his staff are withholding comment until a detailed press conference that he said will take place within the next week.

A previous Ebbets Field style ballpark was shown off in 2001, but it had a retractable roof and other different features.

The Empire State Development Corporation, which provided the report, said there would be a public hearing on the proposed stadium Feb. 27 at Flushing Town Hall. “The purpose of our participation in the project is to maintain a world-class sports franchise in Queens and to facilitate the development of a major venue for sporting and other events,” read and ESDC.

Mets fans will be treated to a number of elegant and unique services that are not present in Shea Stadium. The Field Level will have an enclosed concourse called the “Home Plate Club,” consisting of 10 suites, lounges, bars, restrooms, and up-close views of the field. Above that is the Main Concourse, which will have plenty of space for fans to roam. This level will hold the Ebbets Club, similar to the current Diamond Club, and picnic area seating. Outfield seating will have a larger slope to position fans closer to the field.

As stadium visitors file up the escalators and elevators to the upper tiers, the first thing they see will be the suite level, with 35 suites and upgraded concession stands. A Business Center will be directly above a rotunda, offering space for business meetings and functions. It is also believed that a bridge will connect this level to the administration building in right field.

The Club Level, which will accommodate press and media, will have a sit-down restaurant in left field, seating approximately 500 customers. Moving to the Upper Concourse, visitors will have the opportunity for great views of the field, even from the “nose bleed” section. In fact, the Upper Level is both closer to the field and lower in elevation than the current Mezzanine Level of Shea Stadium.

At the completion of the construction, Shea will be demolished and turned into a parking lot. It is expected that the city will lease the stadium site to the Mets for up to 99 years and the Mets will enter a non-relocation agreement. Officials say the new stadium will have an employment total of approximately 700 jobs and the total revenue generated by stadium operations will be an estimated $1.26 billion over 40 years.

Spokesman Dan Andrews said Wednesday that Borough President Helen Marshall “has always supported a new stadium.”

“We feel there’s a great need and great support for a new stadium,” he said.

The public hearing on the stadium plan will be held at 4 p.m. Monday, Feb. 27, at Flushing Town Hall, 137-35 Northern Blvd

[brooklyndodger14]

Which newspaper is the article from?


Thanks!

Dennis

[Chef Bill]

...Astronomical prices for tickets. Fewer seats means, well, fewer seats. Expect every game to be sold out for the first two or three seasons until the novelty factor wears off. After that, almost all of the most desirable locations will be taken on a season basis by corporations and the big ticket brokers -- the rest of us will pay through the nose for gameday tickets.

I'm guessing list prices for the first season will be $125 or more for good field level seats; $60 - $75 in the middle tier; and $45 or more for upper level reserved seats -- if you can get them.

What's that mean to us? A night out for two -- with parking, middle tier seats, a couple of beers and snacks -- $200 bucks or more. And no guarantee of a win...

[StanTheMan]

It will never be Ebbets Field unless a Cardinal Player can come in and rip the cover off the ball game after game, like Musial did... a career .375 hitter at Ebbets Field. That's ridiculous for a visiting player!!

Pujols has the talent to do that, so go ahead and build a new park... I think it would be great.

Just don't try to recreate something artificial. Going Retro is ok, I suppose (The Cardinals are doing it) but you can't copy the classics, that's what makes them classic.

--Musial striding to the plate at Ebbets Field, probably with runners on, in a close game......
--Some Dodger fan... "Uh-oh... here comes the man again.... here comes the man..."
--Surley Musial ripped a line drive somewhere!!!!

[Elvis]

Which newspaper is the article from?


Thanks!

Dennis

Queens Tribune

[Elvis]

...Astronomical prices for tickets. Fewer seats means, well, fewer seats. Expect every game to be sold out for the first two or three seasons until the novelty factor wears off. After that, almost all of the most desirable locations will be taken on a season basis by corporations and the big ticket brokers -- the rest of us will pay through the nose for gameday tickets.

I'm guessing list prices for the first season will be $125 or more for good field level seats; $60 - $75 in the middle tier; and $45 or more for upper level reserved seats -- if you can get them.

What's that mean to us? A night out for two -- with parking, middle tier seats, a couple of beers and snacks -- $200 bucks or more. And no guarantee of a win...

Many teams (including the Mets) now offer variable ticket prices that change depending on who they're playing and when. For example, a tuesday night game against the Pirates would be $5 for a G.A. ticket, while it's say $12 against the Cards and $18 for a subway series game. This gives working-class folks a chance to see games at discounted prices, but unfortunately having to pay a "premium" for the high demand games they might want to see the most. I'm sure they will continue this "Gold, Silver, Bronze" structure at Wallmart Field (or whatever it's named).

[MATHA531]

Why Elvis...

It will be Citibank Ebbets Field (or some other bank willing to put its name on the park) unless the criminal element on the West Coast won't let us have that name back too (just like the pub the Brooklyn Dodger etc.)

[Elvis]

Why Elvis...

It will be Citibank Ebbets Field (or some other bank willing to put its name on the park) unless the criminal element on the West Coast won't let us have that name back too (just like the pub the Brooklyn Dodger etc.)

Naa, Taco Bell Stadium at Hot Sauce field, you watch. They'll have Tostada Party Suites on the Nacho Bell Grande level, tacos and nachos instead of dogs and popcorn, and chihuahua races on the scoreboard! :D

And why the heck would the Mets want to name their ballpark after the Dodgers? That makes as much sense as naming the new Yankee stadium Ted Williams Field. Here's a clever idea: how about Mets park? Sounds better than Burger King Stadium at onion ring Field, right?

[Mattingly]

Which newspaper is the article from?


Thanks!

Dennis
Here's the link: http://www.queenstribune.com/news/1140123733.html

[MATHA531]

Elvis...

Normally what you said is correct...why would the Mets want to take a name from the Dodgers...but then you have to bring in the Fred Wilpon factor....given his druthers, I am quite sure Wilpon would move heaven and earth to find a location in Brooklyn (his original home) to build his ball park...of course he doesn't have that luxury...but in Wilpon's view, he sees the Mets as the sucessor to all that was National League baseball in NY and in the years from 1947 to 1957, when he was growing up, that was the Dodgers not the Giants not both teams....

Do I really expect the park to be called Ebbets whatever...no I don't but stranger things have happened (and let's not get into the usual arguments of what was the strangest thing of all)...how Bklyn Dodger fans might react to this is another story.

[DODGER DEB]

Yesterday, Fred Wilpon of the NY METS showed the world what their new ballpark will look like, come 2009.

The NY Times has this today.......

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/07/sports/baseball/07stadium.ready.html

c.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

Naa, Taco Bell Stadium at Hot Sauce field, you watch. They'll have Tostada Party Suites on the Nacho Bell Grande level, tacos and nachos instead of dogs and popcorn, and chihuahua races on the scoreboard! :D

And why the heck would the Mets want to name their ballpark after the Dodgers? That makes as much sense as naming the new Yankee stadium Ted Williams Field. Here's a clever idea: how about Mets park? Sounds better than Burger King Stadium at onion ring Field, right?

Well, Burger King Stadium built as a burger shaped dome sounds pretty cool to me. ;)