The Come Back Kid: Roger Clemens?!?

[RichardLikeWhoa]

supposedly there is an article on bostonherald.com about
the red sox showing future hall of famer roger clemens
a video about how he show end his carreer where he started it..BOSTON!!!

it says subscribers only and ive tried to subscribe... if anyone could help
me it would be greatly appreciated

[DODGER DEB]

The RED SOX and ROGER CLEMENS, a match? The SOX seem to think so. Could it work.....AGAIN? Read more.....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11229577/

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[Evangelion]

We're going to offer him 10 plus million dollars to probably pitch half a year in the AL. I bold the AL, because he will be pitching in the AL, not the NL. I don't mind him being back, but the money he will be making will be an absurd amount I don't believe he deserve. The Sox will vastly over-pay for him for his one year service, maybe half year service.

[Lipsander]

I'd love to see Roger pitch with Boston again. He's a legend in my estimation.

[DoubleX]

And suddenly Boston will love him again. Some of the most offensive and vicious things I've heard Boston fans say in the past 8 years or so, have been directed at Clemens.

I think Clemens will return to Houston after May 1st. As Evangelion said, he's had a rebirth in the NL, so he'll stick with what works. Plus it's close to his home and his kid is in the organization.

[Lipsander]

The fans shouldn't be harsh on him. If it wasn't for Dan Duquette, Clemens may have stayed in Boston his whole career.

[FlashGordon]

As much as I'd love it to happen, I'll believe it when I see it.

[Rocket21fan]

The Boston Herald claimes the Red Sox are preparing a video of fans urging Roger to come back and finish his carreer.
I think it would be a brilliant PR move on their part. Every Boston fan would love to see it, (wether they admit it or not.)
The price would be a little high...but for just one season.
Picture this rotation:
Roger Clemens
Curt Schilling
David Wells(another article on the Boston Herald web site says he may now stay)
Josh Becket
Tim Wakefield

That's a sick rotation.

[YOUgodofwalks]

I certainly wouldn't mind havig Clemens back, and I know I don't feel any resentment towards Clemens, he was forced out of Boston by Duquette and should have been with Boston all, or most, or even more than what happened, of his career.

[DoubleX]

The fans shouldn't be harsh on him. If it wasn't for Dan Duquette, Clemens may have stayed in Boston his whole career.

That's what I used to tell my Boston friends when I lived up there, but they wouldn't have it. Almost all of them placed the blame squarely with Clemens, and they resented him vehemently.

[DoubleX]

The Boston Herald claimes the Red Sox are preparing a video of fans urging Roger to come back and finish his carreer.
I think it would be a brilliant PR move on their part. Every Boston fan would love to see it, (wether they admit it or not.)
The price would be a little high...but for just one season.
Picture this rotation:
Roger Clemens
Curt Schilling
David Wells(another article on the Boston Herald web site says he may now stay)
Josh Becket
Tim Wakefield

That's a sick rotation.

It's funny you used the phrase "sick rotation." Wakefield is about the only won that I wouldn't put money for a trip to DL. :)

[SoxSon]

It's funny you used the phrase "sick rotation." Wakefield is about the only won that I wouldn't put money for a trip to DL. :)


I hate to say it, DoubleX, but I often find you depressing, too.

I don't think you should be "sunshine" all the time...I just think your allegiance lends itself to a perceived tone. Certainly no need to remark "And suddenly Boston will love him again. Some of the most offensive and vicious things I've heard Boston fans say in the past 8 years or so, have been directed at Clemens. This would be taken as a completely different comment coming from a Boston fan in the Boston forum, I think. Just food for thought.

I agree with Flash on Clemens. I'll believe this when I see it.

[KCGHOST]

He's more likely to end up in the Bronx than in BeanTown.

[DoubleX]

I hate to say it, DoubleX, but I often find you depressing, too.

I don't think you should be "sunshine" all the time...I just think your allegiance lends itself to a perceived tone. Certainly no need to remark "And suddenly Boston will love him again. Some of the most offensive and vicious things I've heard Boston fans say in the past 8 years or so, have been directed at Clemens. This would be taken as a completely different comment coming from a Boston fan in the Boston forum, I think. Just food for thought.

I agree with Flash on Clemens. I'll believe this when I see it.

Soxson,

I originally posted a reply to you, but I deleted and decided it was probably better to just PM you, as to not further detract from the thread. Basic gist is, like I promised BB, I'll try to be more mindful of my surroundings. All I ask though is that you try to give me the benefit of the doubt. :)

[Swiss]

I don't believe that Roger could finish his career in Boston... but yes, he'll wear a Red Sox cap in his Hall of Fame's plaque.

[hellborn]

The Boston Herald claimes the Red Sox are preparing a video of fans urging Roger to come back and finish his carreer.
I think it would be a brilliant PR move on their part. Every Boston fan would love to see it, (wether they admit it or not.)
....

That's a sick rotation.

I am a Boston fan, and I would NOT love to see it.
I think that there is a good chance that he would pitch very well, but I just cannot stand the man. He's the pitching version of Bonds...great performer, despicable person.
Plus, at this stage of his career, he's a big load on the bullpen. You just know that the guy won't even get close to completing games. He's gotta get three or so innings of relief for every start...which is one reason why he had such a great ERA and mediocre record last year. The conclusion of the game was never really in his hands.

[Boston Boxer]

no way does he come back to Boston IMO. yes it would be a feel good story and all, but we would over spend for minimal service.

[Lipsander]

He's the pitching version of Bonds...great performer, despicable person.


You are crazy.

[Rocket21fan]

[QUOTE=hellborn]I am a Boston fan, and I would NOT love to see it.
I think that there is a good chance that he would pitch very well, but I just cannot stand the man. He's the pitching version of Bonds...great performer, despicable person....QUOTE]

I'd like to hear what dispicable acts you are talking about. While Barry Bonds has an incredible amount of controversy surrounding him,( Steroids, conflicts with team mates,) I've never heard a bad word about Clemens as a teammate and nobody questions his work ethic. I think it would be fitting if the man ended his carreer at Fenway Park in a Red Sox uniform. Not to mention he's no more strain on a bullpen than Pedro was, and I believe The Sox won a world series with him.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

Clemens would be crazy to end up in Boston or the Bronx. Especially when he can have a contract in Houston like he had the last year.

He doesn't have to be in the dug out when he doesn't start, so he can watch his kid playing baseball.

For me it would be an easy choice.

[CuriousBoston]

The guy keeps himself in shape, doesn't frequent bars, stays with his family, and pitches. While whats his name was charging across from the dugout to get to Pedro, Clemens and Posada were completely focused on keeping Clemens warmed up.

Clemens did nothing wrong. Dan Duquette told the baseball world that Clemens was in the twilight of his career. If you were a professional that takes care of your body, attitude and family like Clemens does, you would be a tiny bit irked, I think.

I'd like to see Clemens sue Duquette for slander, but suppose that is not possible.

I'd like to see Clemens back in Boston, but until I see it. I would like to see the video the Sox are making/have made.

Also like to see the Red Sox fire Wells for not showing up to training in shape.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

The guy keeps himself in shape, doesn't frequent bars, stays with his family, and pitches. While whats his name was charging across from the dugout to get to Pedro, Clemens and Posada were completely focused on keeping Clemens warmed up.

Clemens did nothing wrong. Dan Duquette told the baseball world that Clemens was in the twilight of his career. If you were a professional that takes care of your body, attitude and family like Clemens does, you would be a tiny bit irked, I think.

I'd like to see Clemens sue Duquette for slander, but suppose that is not possible.

I'd like to see Clemens back in Boston, but until I see it. I would like to see the video the Sox are making/have made.

Also like to see the Red Sox fire Wells for not showing up to training in shape.

You bet he is in shape.... In shape for a bar:D
Nothing has changed.

[The Big C]

Round is a shape.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

Round is a shape.:clapping

Are you gonna teach us a lesson in mathematics? :D

[SoxSon]

Soxson,

I originally posted a reply to you, but I deleted and decided it was probably better to just PM you, as to not further detract from the thread. Basic gist is, like I promised BB, I'll try to be more mindful of my surroundings. All I ask though is that you try to give me the benefit of the doubt. :)


I should have PM'd you to begin with, as well, DoubleX. I apologize for that.

I would like to add to the Clemens discussion, though, that I see parallels with some of the talk about Manny this offseason. Guys, it doesn't matter if a player drives you batty. Anyone of Manny or Roger's caliber, when available, should be accepted and tied to a post somewhere in the locker room when not on the field. If Clemens would be willing to pitch a half-year (or a full one) in Boston, get him here quick.

On further thought, I guess I'd have to ignore my own advice if it came to Bonds (I know, I know...let the flaming begin). :D

[MudvilleMike]

no way does he come back to Boston IMO. yes it would be a feel good story and all, but we would over spend for minimal service.

Maybe this year he'll crash, but he's just as likely to put up Cy Young numbers. I'd love to see him come back, but I doubt it will happen. If he does come back, I'd like to figure out a way to increase the chance that he'll be strong in Oct.

[FlashGordon]

Clemens did nothing wrong. Dan Duquette told the baseball world that Clemens was in the twilight of his career. If you were a professional that takes care of your body, attitude and family like Clemens does, you would be a tiny bit irked, I think.Just for the record, as someone who was sorry to see Roger leave, he was not in the best shape of his career before he left for Toronto. I remember the cracks about his donut habit and I seem to remember thinking they were more accurate than I wished they had been. The real bitterness kicked in when, after back-to-back Cy Youngs, he moved on to the Yankees. To be honest, had he gone straight to the Bronx and turned in those same two performances in pinstripes, we wouldn't even be discussing a return to Boston because he'd be considered the latter-day Bambino.