View Full Version : OK... we got Coco.. now we need a SS
RichardLikeWhoa
01-29-2006, 12:22 PM
I'm guessing the whole Alex Gonzalez deal fell through?
anyone have any clue who will be our starting SS.. I wouldn't mind
Alex Cora starting off the season but there's no way we will go as far
as we did 2 years ago or even last year with a player like Alex Cora. I just don't see him being an explosive SS in the game. Edgar is better then
alex :(
if anyone has any ideas of what's going on with the SS position please let me know. thanks
Sean Casey
01-29-2006, 02:05 PM
I would like to see the Red Sox trade a pitcher (or multiple pitchers) to Cincinnati for Felipe Lopez. It would be good for both teams; the Reds would have a chance at having a real pitcher for the first time since Jose Rijo, and the Red Sox could get a good, relatively young shortstop.
BoSox Rule
01-29-2006, 03:30 PM
Dustin Pedroia
RichardLikeWhoa
01-29-2006, 04:25 PM
^^ yea hes good...but all season?!
i dont see us being a playoff contender with a SS like him
Mattingly
01-29-2006, 06:07 PM
Dustin Pedroia
What's the pro/con on him? I only know that he's played in Pawtucket, never debuted on the big team.
BoSox Rule
01-29-2006, 06:34 PM
i dont see us being a playoff contender with a SS like him
Yeah, you're right. Alex Cora and Alex Gonzalez are much better.
Mattingly
01-29-2006, 06:51 PM
Yeah, you're right. Alex Cora and Alex Gonzalez are much better.
Why Dustin Pedroia over the others? What's he shown you that makes you pick him?
Do you think that Boston is going to pull another big trade for a more established player? I doubt this, since they've used up about all of their trade bait in the Crisp deal.
YOUgodofwalks
01-29-2006, 07:08 PM
Why Dustin Pedroia over the others? What's he shown you that makes you pick him?
Do you think that Boston is going to pull another big trade for a more established player? I doubt this, since they've used up about all of their trade bait in the Crisp deal.
Pedroia is not ready for the big show yet but I bet you'll see him at Fenway this year.
But as for trades we're not even close to out of trade bait. Wells still wants a trade, and while he may be hard to move both Clement and Arroyo are possibilities to be traded because with Schilling, Clement, Arroyo, Wells, Wakefield, and Beckett all in the staff plus Papelbon waiting in the wings we have more starters than we can start, of course i would rather keep them and have depth and have a plus defensive SS with little offense.
Sean Casey
01-29-2006, 08:31 PM
we have more starters than we can start, of course i would rather keep them and have depth and have a plus defensive SS with little offense.
I assume you're referring to Alex Gonzalez. He's okay, but I'm not all that crazy about the possibility of building up the entire left side of the infield with Florida Marlins rejects. Oh well; I guess he's just keeping the seat warm until Pedroia comes up.
Boston Boxer
01-30-2006, 08:08 AM
Pedroia is not ready for the big show yet but I bet you'll see him at Fenway this year..
he was ready enough last year and then were going to bring him up, but hurt his wrist. This kid is ready to play IMO. If we are going to go with Cora a SS, then why not give the kid a look. We can't be afraid to play the young players.
Mattingly
01-30-2006, 08:29 AM
he was ready enough last year and then were going to bring him up, but hurt his wrist. This kid is ready to play IMO. If we are going to go with Cora a SS, then why not give the kid a look. We can't be afraid to play the young players.
You think they'll just have a tryout at spring break amongst Pedroia, Cora and possibly someone else?
Boston Boxer
01-30-2006, 11:50 AM
yes I do Matt. The better player will emerge and start at SS IMO
RichardLikeWhoa
01-30-2006, 02:58 PM
im a fan of alex cora... and dustin pedroia... but i just dont
see them doing big things like nomar or orlando did for us.
anyone else feel the same way?
the BEST trade of the off-season would be David Wells for Orlando Cabrera..
that would be amazing, but def. not gonna happen :(
Mattingly
01-30-2006, 03:13 PM
yes I do Matt. The better player will emerge and start at SS IMO
A few questions first of all. How's the defense for each of Pedroia and Cora? I've heard of Alex Gonzalez being all glove no bat (perhaps like Rey Ordonez, formerly of the Mets and D-Rays), but offense or not, how slick are these guys with the defense? Do they turn the DP nicely, do they charge the ball well? You folks have had some very quality people in Nomah, Cabrera, and even Pokey on the bench.
im a fan of alex cora... and dustin pedroia... but i just dont
see them doing big things like nomar or orlando did for us.
anyone else feel the same way?
the BEST trade of the off-season would be David Wells for Orlando Cabrera..
that would be amazing, but def. not gonna happen :(
Any other SS's you think may be traded for, especially this late in the winter? If so, who'd you consider trading for them? I'm figuring if the other team also asked for Clement or Arroyo, would you think that's a fair trade?
SoxSon
01-30-2006, 04:00 PM
A few questions first of all. How's the defense for each of Pedroia and Cora? I've heard of Alex Gonzalez being all glove no bat (perhaps like Rey Ordonez, formerly of the Mets and D-Rays), but offense or not, how slick are these guys with the defense? Do they turn the DP nicely, do they charge the ball well? You folks have had some very quality people in Nomah, Cabrera, and even Pokey on the bench.
Any other SS's you think may be traded for, especially this late in the winter? If so, who'd you consider trading for them? I'm figuring if the other team also asked for Clement or Arroyo, would you think that's a fair trade?
I'd like to get hold of Chone Figgins and use him at SS.
Mattingly
01-30-2006, 04:07 PM
I'd like to get hold of Chone Figgins and use him at SS.
Nahhhh, why bother? First you get Jhonny Peralta at SS (for a few bag of beans obviously), then you send Boomer and a few cases of American beer to get Chone Figgins.
I'll fill you in on the Ben Sheets deal later on. :p
Gjm130
01-30-2006, 04:20 PM
Alex Gonzalez would be a good choice...
I've seen him play here in Montreal, he's an "overall" good player...
But what the Red Sox need now, after reorganizing their outfield, is a decent infield....
PEACE
RichardLikeWhoa
01-30-2006, 07:01 PM
A few questions first of all. How's the defense for each of Pedroia and Cora? I've heard of Alex Gonzalez being all glove no bat (perhaps like Rey Ordonez, formerly of the Mets and D-Rays), but offense or not, how slick are these guys with the defense? Do they turn the DP nicely, do they charge the ball well? You folks have had some very quality people in Nomah, Cabrera, and even Pokey on the bench.
Any other SS's you think may be traded for, especially this late in the winter? If so, who'd you consider trading for them? I'm figuring if the other team also asked for Clement or Arroyo, would you think that's a fair trade?
I would send Boomer and Arroyo for Cabrera anyday... not Clement though.
Clement is too powerful, we need to keep him. He's a solid 3rd starter
Mattingly
01-31-2006, 01:14 AM
I would send Boomer and Arroyo for Cabrera anyday... not Clement though.
Clement is too powerful, we need to keep him. He's a solid 3rd starter
Thanks. Once June or so comes around and we've seen what each of Gonzalez (if that deal goes through), and perhaps a little bit of Cora, then everyone will know what everyone's capable of. We'll also know what Boomer, Clement and Arroyo are capable of, given that all of them are still here.
One more reason to hold tight to see how things actually pan out. Patience is great, but sometimes I'm antsy to see how well people perform. :)
Evangelion
01-31-2006, 02:56 PM
We are aware that Cabrera is mostly glove and no bat, too? He's not that much better than Alex Gonzalez with the bat. Why would trade of a pitcher of your rotation to a team you might be contending for the Wild Card for when you can just bring a player for cheap in for one year that's a little below Orlando Cabrera in hitting and fielding.
Alex Gonzalez has around a Gold Glove level glove. Cabrera is slightly better on the field than Gonzalez. Just compare the offense numbers. While Cabrera put up better numbers by far than Gonzalez. Gonzalez and Cabrera were both offense challenge.
DoWnWiThTheSiCkNeSs
01-31-2006, 03:05 PM
Well David Wells wants to be traded out west so i would give him up and maybe Arroyo or Del Carmen if they are interested in him.