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Bob Hannah
01-20-2006, 06:50 PM
Whats the story behind this "nickname" for the Giants? When I first noticed it withing the last year or so I thought it might be a reference to the Senators or Nationals teams.
The reason I ask is Senators and Nationals teams in D.C. have been dubbed the "Nats" going back possibly 100 years or more. Obviously a shortened and affectionate form of Senators or Nationals.
They are also referred to as "gnats" in not so affectionate terms, most recently by Orioles loyalists harboring ill will toward the D.C. team. As a kid in the '60s you only saw this term used by the media in cartoons or in printed articles when the team did especially poor (even for the Senators of the '60s!).
I notice a lot of the LA Dodger fans refer to the Giants as "Gnats", so I guess its intended as a derogatory term, right? How long has SF been labeled with the term? Whats the meaning behind it? Is the intentional misspelling a sign of disrespect, does it refer to the pesky insect?
This gnat thing bugs me.
bondsgirrrl
01-22-2006, 01:17 AM
I personally dont get it, I think its lame considering its not an abbr. of the word. I think its as lame as the " team name" sucks that they do too.
It's because Dodger fans can't spell.
Dravecky43
01-22-2006, 11:25 PM
I personally don't even want to try to figure out why those people use that term. Kind of like the old belief that it's useless for a guy to try to figure out what goes through the mind of a girl. Just impossible and not worth it.
west coast orange and black
01-23-2006, 08:26 AM
although i really really really like ipod's assessment, actually it was a pejorative used by hated brooklyn dodger fans years ago. those who currently use it probably do so while fantasizing about the better days of that club.
mojorisin71
01-23-2006, 07:05 PM
I've only heard "Gnats" since the 2001 season when Bonds hit 73. Growing up deep in Dodger territory, all I heard was "Jints." The sophomoric Dodger fans have gotten more vocal. That's all.
mojorisin71
01-23-2006, 07:06 PM
although i really really really like ipod's assessment, actually it was a pejorative used by hated brooklyn dodger fans years ago. those who currently use it probably do so while fantasizing about the better days of that club.
The same can be said about the Giant fans who use "Bums" as a derogative term regarding the team at the south end of the 101.
Bob Hannah
01-23-2006, 08:23 PM
I've only heard "Gnats" since the 2001 season when Bonds hit 73. Growing up deep in Dodger territory, all I heard was "Jints." The sophomoric Dodger fans have gotten more vocal. That's all.
I thought of "Jints", too, but really can't reconcile it with San Francisco. I can't reconcile the LA Dodgers as "Bums", either. Those names just don't fit on the West Coast.
Gnats has got me stumped, just can't think of a reason for the name.
KHenry14
01-23-2006, 08:25 PM
Funny thing, after all of these years following the team, I can't recall anyone referring to the team as "Gnats".
KH14
Bob Hannah
01-23-2006, 09:05 PM
Funny thing, after all of these years following the team, I can't recall anyone referring to the team as "Gnats".
KH14
I've read it (never heard the term) in reference to the Giants, and only at BBF, almost exclusively from one or two LA Dodger fans, it turns out.
I ran a general search of open forums at BBF and came up with this:
http://www.baseball-fever.com/search.php?searchid=365217
Using it to refer to the Giants is quite recent. Some search references are to the Nationals (from the Phillies forum and an Expo fan), one to a Nationals farm club, the Savanah Sand Gnats, and one reference to swarm of the insects.
Maybe I'm just attuned to the name, because when I see it in use I associate it a Washington team, not SF.
Maybe iPod is right after all.:D
west coast orange and black
01-24-2006, 07:05 AM
mojo, it's true that giant fans use "bums" as a derogative aimed at the team in tha land of so. but the term was created by hated-dodger lover and sports cartoonist willard mullin, and the brooklyn fans quickly adopted the nickname themselves.
in this case, a giants fan did not create "gnats", and giants fans have not warmed to it.
Honus Wagner Rules
01-24-2006, 03:00 PM
Whats the story behind this "nickname" for the Giants? When I first noticed it withing the last year or so I thought it might be a reference to the Senators or Nationals teams.
The reason I ask is Senators and Nationals teams in D.C. have been dubbed the "Nats" going back possibly 100 years or more. Obviously a shortened and affectionate form of Senators or Nationals.
They are also referred to as "gnats" in not so affectionate terms, most recently by Orioles loyalists harboring ill will toward the D.C. team. As a kid in the '60s you only saw this term used by the media in cartoons or in printed articles when the team did especially poor (even for the Senators of the '60s!).
I notice a lot of the LA Dodger fans refer to the Giants as "Gnats", so I guess its intended as a derogatory term, right? How long has SF been labeled with the term? Whats the meaning behind it? Is the intentional misspelling a sign of disrespect, does it refer to the pesky insect?
This gnat thing bugs me.
Until I met Jake83 on this board I had never ever heard the Giants referred to as the Gnats. And I've been a Giant's fan since 1978.
west coast orange and black
01-24-2006, 03:11 PM
check. which brings us back to ipod's "it's because dodger fans can't spell."
Jake83
01-25-2006, 01:09 AM
Until I met Jake83 on this board I had never ever heard the Giants referred to as the Gnats. And I've been a Giant's fan since 1978.
What is up with the Name dropping I thought it was a LA thing.
west coast orange and black
01-25-2006, 07:17 AM
jake, would you rather be reffered to with one of the names used when we are not in public? :D