Jeff Weaver

[E.Banks#14]

Jeff Weaver is one of the few remaining decent free agent starting pitchers. I have heard nothing about the Cubs being interested, so don't even consider this a rumor.

I just wondered if you would be happy with a Weaver signing or unhappy.

As it says in the following article, Weaver could have a great season if everything "clicked". His BB/9 were at a career best last season (1.73), and his K/9 were at a career best as well (6.31). But, he gave up 35 homeruns in 35 starts.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/daily-graphing-jeff-weaver/

My belief is that the more quality starters we have, the better off we are (duh...). But seriously, he couldn't hurt the team. That would mean Zambrano, Prior, Maddux, Weaver, and Rusch would start for the first month of the season (or however long it takes Wood to come back). Then replace Rusch with Wood, and we're set. It allows for a lot more flexibility in terms of pitching staff. We'd have 2 or 3 guys (if you want to count Dempster) who could put up quality starts if they were needed in case of injury.

[RBi]

Well I still say we need one more fair starter...


But Weaver seems to have minor anger issues... no?

http://www.ultimateyankees.com/Jeff_Weaver_Biting_Glove.jpg

[E.Banks#14]

Anger, or hunger? ;)

I have never really followed Weaver, so I don't know of any anger incidents he's had, but one could say the same for Carlos for his numerous ejections, talking to himself, beaning Jim Edmonds, etc. If Hendry and Dusty were willing to pursue Milton Bradley, why not Weaver?

[Ravenlord]

Home Year ERA IP K/BB BB/9 K/9 H/9 HR/9 WHIP OBA SLG BABIP
DET 1999 5.55 163.2 1.97 3.08 6.27 9.68 1.48 1.42 350 478 296
DET 2000 4.32 200 2.52 2.34 6.12 9.23 1.17 1.29 321 432 289
DET 2001 4.08 229.1 2.11 2.67 5.97 9.22 0.75 1.32 326 409 295
DET 2002 3.18 121.2 2.21 2.44 5.55 8.28 0.30 1.19 304 347 278
NYY 2002 4.04 78 3.17 1.73 6.58 9.35 1.38 1.23 300 437 283
NYY 2003 5.99 159.1 1.90 2.65 5.25 11.92 0.90 1.62 371 481 343
LAD 2004 4.01 220 2.01 2.74 6.26 8.96 0.78 1.30 323 399 293
LAD 2005 4.22 224 3.57 1.73 6.31 8.84 1.41 1.17 305 435 273
- Total 4.44 1396 2.31 2.46 6.04 9.41 1.02 1.32 326 428 295
a HR/9 leap like what Weaver had last year in a very pitcher friendly park is usually indicitive of bad things coming in the next year or two...especially when having that lucky of a BABIP.

and beware of pitchers who when being slightly BABIP lucky (every year except 99, 01, and 04) is still only putting up average to just slightly better than average numbers.

even if there were no concerning trends, he's definetly not worth the 4 years and $40 million that Boras is demanding.

[sschirmer]

You've just hit the nail on the head. I don't mind Weaver, but he certainly isn't worth that kind of coin.

[KCGHOST]

Why bother with a Scott Bora$$ client??

[Ravenlord]

Why bother with a Scott Bora$$ client??
because they can hang themselves and be forced to take a 1-year $2.95 million contract to reesatblish value...the thing that happened to Kevin Millwood last year.

[AstroBrit]

Why bother with a Scott Bora$$ client??
Boras will bleed any team dry that goes after Weaver. His numbers in no way warrant $10m a year.

[Larry Biittner]

Not my money...sign him up!

[sschirmer]

Why bother with a Scott Bora$$ client??

Truer words have ne'er been posted!:D

[Bob Sacamento]

I don't know why Cub fans fret so much about Boras. If you haven't noticed Hendry gets along fine with Scott "The Devil" Boras, definately better than most GMs do.

That being said, he's still very likely to get Weaver a contract to his liking (probably not 10 million a year for 4 years) although it probably won't be where Jeff wants to go. And don't consider the Cubs a viable option.

On a side bar, last year Weaver gave up the most homers to opposing pitchers in the MLB with three.

[E.Banks#14]

Well, Jeff signed a 2 year / $8.4 mil. deal. I don't know why we can spend $2 mil. to keep Neifi but not go out and sign a top, or even decent free agent.

[rockin500]

Well, Jeff signed a 2 year / $8.4 mil. deal. I don't know why we can spend $2 mil. to keep Neifi but not go out and sign a top, or even decent free agent.
because he isnt a very good pitcher? he is a flyball pitcher and do we really want another one of those at wrigley?

(hint: no we dont)

[Larry Biittner]

It is good that we didnt sign him, unless he has a good year, and then it is bad.:atthepc

[E.Banks#14]

because he isnt a very good pitcher? he is a flyball pitcher and do we really want another one of those at wrigley?

(hint: no we dont)
I'm saying, why waste money on a player who plays at a position that the team is very deep at instead of signing a player, for just twice the dollar amount, at a position where help is needed.

Sometimes I just don't understand this organization. :ughh

[poppabear]

Well, Jeff signed a 2 year / $8.4 mil. deal. I don't know why we can spend $2 mil. to keep Neifi but not go out and sign a top, or even decent free agent.

He signed a one year $8.4M deal, not a two year deal.

Wade Miller is a better pitcher and only cost $1M plus incentives. If he get's the incentives he will have outperformed Weaver. If he doesn't, it's because someone on the staff outpitched him.

Weaver is the Darren Driefort of 2006.

[Cubsfan97]

I actually like Miller. I hoep they start him a lot this year.

[Lipsander]

I like Miller too, when healthy, he comes right at the hitters. I don't think Weaver is all that good and wants way too much money for what he did so far in his career.

[Cubsfan97]

Hes also had only 1 seaosn with an ERA under 4. We would be better off with Hill as a starter than Weaver.

[rockin500]

I'm saying, why waste money on a player who plays at a position that the team is very deep at instead of signing a player, for just twice the dollar amount, at a position where help is needed.

Sometimes I just don't understand this organization. :ughh
you're not understanding the fact that a) we dont need weaver and b) we shouldnt want weaver. not even if he was 5 mil for 2 years. Just because you do (bad) choice 1, shouldnt mean you should do (worse) choice 2.

[Lipsander]

Evidently most teams think the same way the Cubs do. He doesn't have that many options for employment. I don't think the Cubs need him what so ever.