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Hammerin Hank
01-04-2006, 10:01 AM
Will the Braves get their 15th consecutive title this year? And even if they do, can they do something in the playoffs besides get eliminated?

grizzly451
01-04-2006, 01:48 PM
I'd say the Braves have a good chance on making it again this year. Now if this was a poll as to whether they would do anything with it besides being eliminated I wouldn't be so sure.

The Mets are probably the Braves biggest threat in the East this year.

ATL22
01-05-2006, 10:43 PM
I think history alone is enough reason to pick the Braves. Even if it weren't 14 years in a row, the last 2 years Bobby Cox has done enough with so many question marks to convince me to never bet against him. I think this could be the tightest race in a while but until somebody proves they can hang with Atlanta all year I'll pick them every time. And besides that, with all this young talent and some pretty good veterans as well the Braves have a pretty good roster even if there were no streak. I say Braves win in 06

Honus Wagner Rules
01-06-2006, 09:45 PM
Just being nitpicky but the Braves do not have 15 consecutive titles. The Montreal Expos "won" the 1994 NL East.

ATL22
01-06-2006, 10:26 PM
Just being nitpicky but the Braves do not have 15 consecutive titles. The Montreal Expos "won" the 1994 NL East.

That's not being nitpicky, it's being absurd. Nobody won anything in 1994 and nobody can say what would've happened over the last 6 weeks.

2Brave2Bscared
01-07-2006, 06:47 PM
The Montreal Expos "won" the 1994 NL East.

Not true. MVPs, GG's, Cy Youngs..etc were handed out in 1994, but no division leaders were recognized. As 22 pointed out, nobody knows for sure who would have won the division had those last six weeks not been cancelled. For example, on August 12, 1993, exactly one year prior to the strike, the Braves actually trailed the Giants by MORE games (8.5) than they did in 1994 to the Expos but yet still won the division.

So, no, it has been 14 consecutive titles.

Atlanta Braves Freak
01-15-2006, 01:10 PM
I think the Braves can do it again and with an even more competitive division they'll win in convincing fashion. I can't wait for the season to BEGIN!!

55 chmps
01-18-2006, 01:20 PM
Will the Braves get their 15th consecutive title this year? And even if they do, can they do something in the playoffs besides get eliminated?
No way, Mets will finally take the division back from the Braves.

Go Bravos!!!#1
01-18-2006, 04:08 PM
Fool me once shame on you ,fool me 14 times shame on me.

Atlanta Braves Freak
01-20-2006, 09:52 AM
No way, Mets will finally take the division back from the Braves.
That's what everyone said last year and the year they got Mo Vaughn, Jeromy Burnitz, and Roberto Alomar. We'll see about it!

foxxx
01-22-2006, 02:57 PM
I'm scared of the Mets no doubt, especially now that they have a good closer in Wagner, but none the less, the Braves always find a way to finish first in the marathon that is the regular season, they've got the pitching to do it, and with the Jones boys in the line up, I think they can win it again, either way, why bet against them after 14 years.

Honus Wagner Rules
01-23-2006, 02:13 PM
Not true. MVPs, GG's, Cy Youngs..etc were handed out in 1994, but no division leaders were recognized. As 22 pointed out, nobody knows for sure who would have won the division had those last six weeks not been cancelled. For example, on August 12, 1993, exactly one year prior to the strike, the Braves actually trailed the Giants by MORE games (8.5) than they did in 1994 to the Expos but yet still won the division.

So, no, it has been 14 consecutive titles.
My point is that even if no division titles were given out, the Braves still don't have 14 consecutive titles. How can they have 14 consecutive titles if the Braves didn't win the 1994 title? I consider the Expos the 1994 NL East champs. Yes, I'm being nit picky. :laugh

Gjm130
01-30-2006, 04:40 PM
I say, you keep Cox as your manager in the regular season and when you reach the playoffs, you fire the guy and acquire some other non-playoff contendor team's coach....

Seems risky, but, it's been a while...

Gjm130
01-30-2006, 04:42 PM
My point is that even if no division titles were given out, the Braves still don't have 14 consecutive titles. How can they have 14 consecutive titles if the Braves didn't win the 1994 title? I consider the Expos the 1994 NL East champs. Yes, I'm being nit picky. :laugh

You are absolutly right!!!!!!!!!
The Expos would have been, could have been, should have been the 94 NL East Champs.....if only Selig didn't announce that strike....:( :(

94 Expos Roster

Pedro Martinez
Ken Hill
Darrin Fletcher
Wil Cordero
Cliff Floyd
Moises Alou
Marquis Grissom
Larry Walker
Rondell White

KingJ
01-30-2006, 05:51 PM
Hard to get 15th consecutive when you've only had 11 consecutive. No, I'm not saying the Expos won the 1994 because, as braves fans are quick to point out, titles weren't awarded which means NOBODY won the 1994 NL East so it is:

11 consecutive titles by Braves.
Nobody.
3 consecutive titles by Braves.

wilkerson_rulz-06
01-30-2006, 06:02 PM
The only reason people vote yes is because we'e in a Braves forum. Put this in any other forum and the majority will say no.

PureBaseballFan
01-31-2006, 05:27 AM
The only reason people vote yes is because we'e in a Braves forum. Put this in any other forum and the majority will say no.
Yes they would but they also said the last couple of years the Braves would lose so the opinion of fans don't really matter. About 1994 no one did win the division which is true and we can all argue about if the Braves are going for their 15th or 12th but if you are a Braves' fan then it will be 15 and if you really want to be technical then it is their 12th. The ones you should really be mad at is the media (ESPN and other networks) which are the ones that really push the consecutive division winning streaks. Another example of them not giving the full truth is when USC was going for their "Three-peat" even though they were actually going for their 2nd straight national titles. As a Braves' fan I do think its their 15th but I also recognize that the Braves did not win the 1994 season and that there was a decent chance that the wouldn't have.

Cpope
01-31-2006, 05:55 AM
If you don't like the number 15, go to another thread. JMO

Atlanta Braves Freak
01-31-2006, 09:49 AM
The only reason people vote yes is because we'e in a Braves forum. Put this in any other forum and the majority will say no.
Great point, everybody here (including myself) will say the Braves are gonna win the division, but if we could take this to a broader forum it would get more mixed reviews.

redlegsfan21
01-31-2006, 12:48 PM
Lets say this.
The Braves have been the last 14 NL East Division leaders of those awarded
or
The Braves have ben the last 14 NL East Division leaders in non-strike seasons.

Captain Cold Nose
01-31-2006, 01:01 PM
Lets say this.
The Braves have been the last 14 NL East Division leaders of those awarded
or
The Braves have ben the last 14 NL East Division leaders in non-strike seasons.
But the first three titles were from the NL West.
But, yes, 14 opportunites to win divisions presented to them, 14 divisions won. In regards to team success, 1994 has been rendered moot.

Francoeurstein
01-31-2006, 01:26 PM
That's what everyone said last year and the year they got Mo Vaughn, Jeromy Burnitz, and Roberto Alomar. We'll see about it!


Yea, well none of them had a good season.

Same as Beltran and Pedro, Pedro did ok but not reaching his standards.

So maybe Wagner and Delgado might not produce:dance

wilkerson_rulz-06
01-31-2006, 01:57 PM
But the first three titles were from the NL West.
But, yes, 14 opportunites to win divisions presented to them, 14 divisions won. In regards to team success, 1994 has been rendered moot.
The Expos are the 94 division winners.:evil

Yankeebiscuitfan
01-31-2006, 02:28 PM
I think they can do it again.

Of course the Mets had the best off season (as usual), but they still have to prove it.

I would put my money on the Braves again. Let's hope they will get any further than the NLDS.

west coast orange and black
01-31-2006, 02:40 PM
though mazzone flew the coop to the orioles, the braves are a pretty good bet.

Evangelion
01-31-2006, 03:40 PM
On paper, the Mets are a better team, but that's just on paper. We know what happen to O's and the Mets of a few years back that looked very good on paper and end up being very bad on the field. Of course, Delgado is no Mo Vaughn. Mets do have to prove they're as good as they are on paper, like the Blue Jays have to do in AL East.

So, at this point, I can't really pick a winner for the NL East. But, I'll stick with Altanta, even without a legit closer again, Altanta keep winning, even after the past two years I picked against them to win the division.

HankAaron86, Pedro was one of the bestest pitcher in NL last season. How did he not reach his level last year?

Beltran should hit a little better, but not that great. Maybe hit a few more home runs and have more RBI with the line-up improved. Beltran should steal a lot more bases and run better on the bases. Still, I will stand by the fact that Beltran's value is vastly over-rated due contract the Mets sign him. He did without a doubt cashed in on his amazing 2004 post-season.

Captain Cold Nose
02-01-2006, 05:27 AM
The Expos are the 94 division winners.:evil
Partial seasons without a postseason do not officially count toward the record. Sorry, but would have, could have, should have still doesn't equal a did.