Glaus coming to blue jays(maybe)

[rompus]

So there have been trade talks with Arizona about bringing their power hitting third baseman to Toronto to improve the teams miniscule power numbers. The supposed trade would send Miguel Batista and O-dawg Hudson to Arizona for Glaus(along with his large salary) and possibly a minor leaguer.

How do you guys feel about this trade? Personally I loved Orlando's hustle and amazing fielding at second base....but the jays really need a 30+ hr power bat....which would be what they'd get with glaus. Batista I like to see go, because he doesn't really fit into the jays mold right now. This trade would also give Aaron Hill a spot to play, I feel this guy's gonna break out next season just watch.

Anyways thats what i think....what you guys think??

[wilkerson_rulz-06]

So there have been trade talks with Arizona about bringing their power hitting third baseman to Toronto to improve the teams miniscule power numbers. The supposed trade would send Miguel Batista and O-dawg Hudson to Arizona for Glaus(along with his large salary) and possibly a minor leaguer.

How do you guys feel about this trade? Personally I loved Orlando's hustle and amazing fielding at second base....but the jays really need a 30+ hr power bat....which would be what they'd get with glaus. Batista I like to see go, because he doesn't really fit into the jays mold right now. This trade would also give Aaron Hill a spot to play, I feel this guy's gonna break out next season just watch.

Anyways thats what i think....what you guys think??

It's hot off the stove in this thread:
http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=37147

:)

[Tinyballer]

i think its a great trade for toronto not only because they get troy glaus a guy who could provide 50 home runs when healthy but toronto also gets a great offensive short stop prospect in Sergio Santos. http://diamondbacks.scout.com/2/333772.html
thats his profile as you see he has great potential to be a power hitting short stop and has a great swing and raw power. He could also turn out big for us so even though toronto has to take in glaus's contract they get a lot more power than they could have ever bargined for.

[Josh]

If this trade does indeed go through it will be great for the Jays, they are in dire need of a big bat. And as much as I would love to see Glaus in Toronto I really wish they didnt have to trade away Hudson.

[Chris from NY]

It'll be hard to see Hudson go, as he's one of my favourite Jays, but Troy Glaus is a good pick-up for the Jays, who need his power bat.

[Brad Chadford]

from mlb.com:

The Blue Jays were on Glaus' no-trade list, but a source said that he had agreed to waive it.

Would this have happened if JP didn't overpay to sign Burnett and Ryan? Not a chance...

[Last of the Indian fans]

hey like i said in the red sox forum... jays by a game... it is this possible? a red sox and yankees-less post season.... one could only pray. go jays.... kick some ass

[moebarguy]

They currently have 5 corner players including Glaus...What are they going to do about that?

[bluejaysfan]

They currently have 5 corner players including Glaus...What are they going to do about that?

One of Koskie, Hinske or Hillenbrand will be dealt for sure. Personally I hope it's either Koskie or Hinske since they have the lowest upside of those three.

I like this trade, Glaus gives us a legitamate power bat that the Jays have been lacking. Vernon Wells won't have to be that cleanup type of guy (a situation he flourished in back in '02 and '03). It definitely stinks to lose Orlando Hudson, but I feel that Aaron Hill has more offensive upside and hopefully can provide us with a adequate glove. Batista was obviously expendible at this point. I even hear the prospect that Arizona is sending us is promising albeit a shortstop a position where were pretty solid for the future.

[moebarguy]

It was def. a good trade, I just don't understand why you guys traded for Overbay in the first place...

[KingJ]

It was def. a good trade, I just don't understand why you guys traded for Overbay in the first place...


Get rid of excess starting pitching, move Hillenbrand to DH, and allow Hinske to be traded?

[Tinyballer]

how bout keeping hinske because he has the potential to regain his form and get back to what he was when he was in his rookie season. If he works hard this off season it seems likely that he would once again be the player that he was. Keeping hillenbrand is also a good idea because of his solid bat. In my opinion i think we should trade corey koskie because sometimes maybe interested at him for his defensive capabilities and maybe we could get a better bad at left field or something with him. Maybe trade a few prospects and him for a team glutted of talented outfielders.

[Big_Mac]

excellent trade by jp. we get rid of batista who really didnt have too many options here anyways and hudson whom i like as a player. for everyone who says we shouldn't have traded him (a few people i know) must just watch the highlight reels. yes, his d is spectacular but he has little power and strike-out way too much for a bottom-of-the-order 2b. we get glaus, 29 years old with 2 years left on his deal, who will be a 40+ hr guy for us. glaus will also benefit wells who struggled last year without protection from delgado.

[KingJ]

You guys want Soriano? You are an AL team looking for a 2B...that's what he wants.

[Evangelion]

This was a very good deal by the Blue Jays.

They brought the power bat they didn't have last season with the depart of Delgado the previous off-season to free agency. While Glaus has had a history of injury problems, he is still a very great hitter who will play if his body allows it, like he did last season. Even with injuries majority of last season, since the D-backs were going for the NL West title, he continue playing regardless of injuries and still put up the solid offensive numbers.

Due to his injury history, I think Glaus should be the full-time DH, but from what I heard from reports, he wants to be the everyday 3B, but I'm sure he'll want to be move to DH once those injuries start nagging him again next season, which I think they will. Though, as it starts as of now, it will be Glaus at 3B, Overbay at 1B and Shea at DH. Still, as long you got their bats in the line-up, it's all cool. :cool:

Koskie and Hinske might be the odd men out. Koskie just lost his starting 3B job to Glaus. Hinske going to get even less playing time with Overbay signing with the Blue Jays. Since Shea put up better offensive numbers than both Koskie and Hinske last year, I think Shea above both of them. Shea has been constant 300. plus batting average in recent years, unlike Koskie and Hinske who have gone up and down in recent years. One of them should be dealt before the season starts, though I'm not sure which one it would be.

Though, I will say I would be shocked if Hillenbrand was shipped out after JP refused to give him up during the deadline last season, so I think JP want Shea to stay. I think Shea should stay in Toronto.

I think Toronto decide to bring a very good 1B in for cheap. The Brewers have Fielder at 1B for next season, so they wanted Overbay out. So if the Blue Jays were going to get a solid 1B for cheap, Overbay was it. I think Overbay is improvement over Hinske, who has been inconsistent from what I've seen.

While report say Glaus waive his claus, because the Blue Jays change the turf at the Rogers Center, I think he would have came here regardless due to Blue Jays making the moves they have. He has a better chance contend here in Toronto than he does with the D-backs.

[Last of the Indian fans]

Get rid of excess starting pitching, move Hillenbrand to DH, and allow Hinske to be traded?


no one is going to take on that mediocre player at his contract

[Tinyballer]

OK now that we got the pop back in our bats. How about trading corey koskie and someone else for a left field. I think we should keep hinske because first he can play 1b 3b and dh if his bat is hot koski can only play third. People on the market would love koskie a defensive 3b. We could get more for Koskie. I also feel eric hinske although left a lot of us dissapointed after the rookie season hinske will i hope regain his form and furthermore make our batting line up unbelivable. You guyz also don't see something valuable in the troy glaus trade. We not only get troy glaus but we also get sergio santos. A great hitter with a great raw power who could develop into another great future powerbat.

[Big_Mac]

OK now that we got the pop back in our bats. How about trading corey koskie and someone else for a left field. I think we should keep hinske because first he can play 1b 3b and dh if his bat is hot koski can only play third. People on the market would love koskie a defensive 3b. We could get more for Koskie. I also feel eric hinske although left a lot of us dissapointed after the rookie season hinske will i hope regain his form and furthermore make our batting line up unbelivable. You guyz also don't see something valuable in the troy glaus trade. We not only get troy glaus but we also get sergio santos. A great hitter with a great raw power who could develop into another great future powerbat.

i agree with most of that except thatg we need a new left fielder. it is probably the next position, if any, for us to upgrade but i think reed/cat will do fine.

being a hinske fan myself, i hope that he will regain his old form and the september he had last year was terrific and even though his avg, obp and slg improved last year his strikeouts went up and his walks went down which has always been a knock on him. he's an old project right now but if someone can sit down and work with him and work a lot, he might be able to turn out good again.

last part i agree too. sergio santos is a good offense shortstop and a good job by jp to get him as an added bonus. hopefully he'll be a decent player for us.

[WinnipegJaysFan]

Regrettable that it took Hudson to get him, but Glaus playing 81 games in the Rogers Centre could hit 40-50 dingers should he stay healthy.

[Knick9]

I've heard rumours come and go that either Koskie or Hillenbrand could be traded, but really I don't see the need to trade either of them. I believe that by putting Shea out in Left Field will get rid of the platoon between Cat and Reed. I believe Shea played in the outfield before in his career, so I think he can do it. As for Koskie, the Jays can make him the full time DH. This smells like a devistating lineup, Jays fans.

By also adding Glaus into the mix, if he stays healthy, we could finally see a shift in the balance of power in the AL East, believe it or not. (but note the word "could" :o )

My Toronto lineup:

SS Adams
CF Wells
1B Overbay
3B Glaus
DH Koskie
LF Hillenbrand
2B Hill
C Zaun
RF Rios

Add that along with this pitching staff:

Halladay
Burnett
Lilly
Chacin
Towers (and in the bullpen, you have BJ Ryan...)

This trade for Glaus could turn out to be great if he stays healthy, and I'm hoping he will. Glaus, Koskie, Shea and Wells are about equal to that of Manny and Ortiz in Boston (4 + 4 = 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 type of way), and without Manny, let's face it, Ortiz would be had if he didn't have a power bat to back him up.

[Tinyballer]

why would you put a defensive third baseman as your dh????

[WinnipegJaysFan]

why would you put a defensive third baseman as your dh????

Cause Glaus is the starting third-baseman, and Koskie has never played outfield. Ideally Troy would DH, but apparently he insists on playing third.

[HDH]

This is a good trade for offensive reasons but, you will soon discover that Troy Glauss is a DH playing 3B. There are several teams needing help at 3B but, with so many 3B, they almost have to trade one or maybe two of them. Lyle Overbay just doesn't look like he fits on this team.

[Chris from NY]

Glaus would be the ideal guy to move to DH but he's a star so what he says goes. Let's also not forget the possibilityl of John Ford Griffin getting some playing time in Left Field at some some point this year. He played extremely well in AA last year and if he plays well in AAA he might get a tryout with the big club.

[Big_Mac]

Glaus would be the ideal guy to move to DH but he's a star so what he says goes. Let's also not forget the possibilityl of John Ford Griffin getting some playing time in Left Field at some some point this year. He played extremely well in AA last year and if he plays well in AAA he might get a tryout with the big club.

i sorta forgot about griffin with everything this offseason. he hit the homer in the last game last year right?

[WinnipegJaysFan]

Lyle Overbay just doesn't look like he fits on this team.

How do you figure that? Overbay is going nowhere....it's guys like Koskie, Hillenbrand and Hinske that don't seem to fit right now. Or at least two of the three anyways.

[tonyc123]

How do you figure that? Overbay is going nowhere....it's guys like Koskie, Hillenbrand and Hinske that don't seem to fit right now. Or at least two of the three anyways.


Koskie will be away on Team Canada for the WBC, Hillenbrand looks like a reasonable fit for DH so it could be Hinske that surplus.

[Big_Mac]

we just signed jason phillips to a minor-league deal so he'll be here for emergency catcher (3rd behind zaun and quiroz) and he can play 1B as well.

Guys Who Can Play 1B:
Lyle Overbay
Eric Hinske
Shea Hillenbrand
Jason Phillips

Guys Who Can Play 2B:
Aaron Hill
Frank Catalanatto
Russ Adams (possiblity)
John McDonald

Guys Who Can Play SS:
Russ Adams
John McDonald
Aaron Hill

Guys Who Can Play 3B:
Troy Glaus
Shea Hillenbrand
Corey Koskie
Eric Hinske

Here are two possibilites that have been talked about here. please share any others.
Possibility A: This one is most likely. Overbay at 1B, Hill at 2B, Adams at SS and Glaus at 3B. Hillenbrand would DH. Koskie would be traded and Hinske would stay on as a back-up 1b/3b since he can play both positions. Phillips would be in Syracuse as an injury replacement.

Possibility B: I don't see this happening but you never know. Reed Johnson and Frank Catalanatto would platoon in left field. If the Jays don't like what they see from Rios in ST, Hillenbrand would play RF. Hillenbrand has been working hard to lose weight this off-season. Hinske said he would consider play outfield as well. This would open up the DH spot for Koskie. I can't see him batting against lefties and neither would Hinske. Unless a right handed bat emerges, i would put Zaun at DH and let Quiroz (right handed) bat vs. Lefties. Against lefties the line-up would be:1.Johnson/LF, 2.Adams/SS, 3.Wells/CF, 4.Glaus/3B, 5.Hillenbrand/RF, 6.Overbay/1B, 7.Hill/2B, 8.Zaun/DH, 9.Quiroz/C
Vs. Righties: 1.Adams/SS, 2.Catalanatto/LF, 3.Wells/CF, 4.Glaus/3B, 5.Hillenbrand/RF, 6.Overbay/1B, 7.Koskie/DH, 8.Hill/2B, 9.Zaun/C


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