Where's the Respect?

[DoubleX]

Does it bother anyone else that the Oakland A's pay what appears to be almost no homage to their Philadelphia roots and the many great players and teams that called themselves Athletics while in Philadelphia? (The same could also be said of the Twins, who do not honor some of the great players that played for the original Senators, and the Orioles, but the St. Louis Browns don't have much to honor). The Giants recognize their New York roots and the Dodgers recognize some of their Brooklyn roots.

The Philadelphia Athletics had two great dynasties and a collection of the greatest players that ever lived, but you would never know of this great tradition upon entering the Oakland Colosseum (or whatever its called now). The A's are so stingy with honor their heroes that they didn't even get around to Reggie Jackson until like last year.

It's time this team got around to honoring Foxx and Grove and Cochrane and Simmons and Collins and Baker and Plank and Bender and Mack, even if they didn't have numbers. Just something to that recognizes that these great players were great for the Athletics, even if it wasn't in Oakland. They deserve to be remembered.

[Steve Jeltz]

I agree 100%. Jimmie Foxx, Mickey Cochrane, Lefty Grove, Al Simmons, etc., are all in the Hall of Fame. The A's should somehow honor the former great Philadelphia A's players. There is something wrong when the Phillies erect a statue of Connie Mack, a man who never played or was associated with the Phillies ever, outside their park, while Oakland ignores the legendary builder of the Athletics. I am sure there are plenty of Oakland A's fans that have no idea that their club originated in Philadelphia and have never heard of the former greats.

[DoubleX]

I think it's similar in St. Louis where a statute of George Sisler stands outside Busch Stadium to honor the 12 seasons he played for the St. Louis Browns.

[Steve Jeltz]

I think it's similar in St. Louis where a statute of George Sisler stands outside Busch Stadium to honor the 12 seasons he played for the St. Louis Browns.

I think the Orioles should honor Sisler in their park as well, even if it just his name on the outfield wall.

[History Of Baseball Fan]

i like how Camerica Park has the brick walls with their great players names on it in center field.

also the big statues they have of their great players.

[Brian McKenna]

i agree with the sentiment here but the public as a whole could care less

hardly anyone in baltimore even knows who the hell sisler is

[Gooch]

I agree that the Oakland A's should honor their great Philadelphia predecessors, but let's face it, the club left Phila. more than a half-century ago (including a brief pitstop in Kansas City). The Phila A's are just too remote and distant for Oakland to even care about. Excluding the hard-core baseball fans, I doubt many current Oakland fans have even heard of Simmons, Foxx, Grove, etc. It's sad, but true... Does anyone know if the Phillies have any memorials to the old A's players at their current ballpark?

[KCGHOST]

Oakland fans barely realize that the A's originally started in Philadelphia. And certainly there is no player from the KC stop-over that didn't play in Oakland that merits real attention.

[Gooch]

I think the Orioles should honor Sisler in their park as well, even if it just his name on the outfield wall.

Sisler is one of the all-time greats, but he has no real connection to the city of Baltimore. The Browns and Orioles are two completely different franchises.

[Bucketfoot Al]

Both KC owner Arnold Johnson and Oakland owner Charlie Finley tried to interest their fans in Athletics history when the team respectively moved to Kansas City in 1955 and Oakland in 1968. In each case there seemed to be little interest from the fans.

Back in the 1990's I was able to walk through the A's front offices and was amazed to see how respectful they were in displaying Philadelphia A's history in their offices.

In 2000 the Oakland Athletics had an All Century Game which recognized the accomplishments of the great Philadelphia teams and players. The families of Connie Mack, Eddie Collins, Jimmie Foxx, Frankie Hayes, Lefty Grove, Sam Chapman and Dario Lodigiani were all there. The game was played wearing their 1911 Philadelphia Athletics uniforms.

The Oakland Athletics have a good working relationship with the Philadelphia Athletic Historical Society and keep in close contact.

What frustrates most Philadelphia A's fans or Oakland A's fans interested in team history is the lack of a retired number for Jimmie Foxx or Lefty Grove on the outfield wall. But the Athletics have been very stingy with retired numbers period. Every year we keep hoping that this is rectified.

[Catfish27]

Where's the respect? Well you can start with the team mascot.

While the A's were in Kansas City Finley made the Missouri Mule the team mascot and named it after himself. Anyone remember Charlie O?

After the Haas family bought the team in late 1981 they sought to rekindle the long tradition of the great franchise. One of the things they did was bring back the elephant as the team mascot. If you examine the sleeves of their uniform, you'll see an elephant (http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1850025&cp=1922175&parentPage=family) perched on top of a baseball holding a baseball bat with its trunk.

As far as retired uniform numbers, why weren't the uniform numbers of Cochrane, Collins, Foxx, Grove, and Simmons retired when the A's were still in Philadelphia? (Collins wouldn't have worn a number during his first stint as a player, of course, but I presume that he did at the end of his career when he was a coach and occasional pinch-hitter.)

As it is, it took the A's twelve years following Catfish Hunter's retirement and four years following his Hall of Fame induction to retire his number. He was the first in franchise history. The delay in Reggie Jackson's number retirement was largely a political issue, which Reggie faults himself for.

As an aside, I've been at the number retirement ceremonies for Catfish Hunter, Rollie Fingers, Reggie Jackson, and Dennis Eckersley. They were all fantastic! I look forward to attending the number retirement ceremony following Rickey Henderson's Hall of Fame induction. Of course he has to retire first! :laugh

[johnny]

Does it bother anyone else that the Oakland A's pay what appears to be almost no homage to their Philadelphia roots and the many great players and teams that called themselves Athletics while in Philadelphia? (The same could also be said of the Twins, who do not honor some of the great players that played for the original Senators, and the Orioles, but the St. Louis Browns don't have much to honor). The Giants recognize their New York roots and the Dodgers recognize some of their Brooklyn roots.

The Philadelphia Athletics had two great dynasties and a collection of the greatest players that ever lived, but you would never know of this great tradition upon entering the Oakland Colosseum (or whatever its called now). The A's are so stingy with honor their heroes that they didn't even get around to Reggie Jackson until like last year.

It's time this team got around to honoring Foxx and Grove and Cochrane and Simmons and Collins and Baker and Plank and Bender and Mack, even if they didn't have numbers. Just something to that recognizes that these great players were great for the Athletics, even if it wasn't in Oakland. They deserve to be remembered.

As usual, I think your spot-on Double X.
I wonder if the focus should be on the constant of the A's versus the current team location -hec, for all we know the Oakland may soon become something once again- and as an all time great Athletic they should be honored. Given that in this day and age of team's not owning any real estate per se, what a team really owns is far less tangible such as the logo and all that goes with it such as its history. Sooo, as part of their grand lineage the A's should be claiming and proclaiming their great stars. The Beast, Iron Mike, Lefty, et al should be part and parcel of the experiance as you walk into the A's stadium. The fact that many fans don't understand who these players are should be viewed as an opportunity to educate 'em. If chicks do indeed love the long ball than what better than a 100% natural XX aka The Beast in cut off sleaves.

[RedSoxVT92]

When a team forgets their history it annoys me so much. I said how the senators were erased from twins history in another thread. These teams need to remember the whole franchise not just after a move and on. The A's and Twins dont have no former philidelphia A or Washington senator retired numbers. The twins have no senator in there hall of fame. It's sad that some great players have no team to remember them any more like Walter Johnson, Eddie Plank, Jimmie Foxx, Etc. I bet Connie Mack's rolling in his grave.

[Jamie Johnson]

Does anyone know if the Phillies have any memorials to the old A's players at their current ballpark?

At Veterans Stadium, there was a statue of Connie Mack outside one of the entrances there. There was also a mini Hall of Fame in the Vet honoring former great Phillies and A's players, which included Foxx, Grove, Simmons, etc. I believe the Phillies new park still has the Mack statue, but I am not sure about the Hall.

[philsphan]

I know the phils and a's share a wall of fame. There is no A's suff on the big phillies wall of fame but outside on one of the sidewalks there is the complete "philadelphia" wall of fame that includes Phillies and atheletics figures.

No one really cares but Jimmy dykes is buried at my school. But the even cooler thing is he is My baseball coaches grandad and his son's (my friends) great grandad.

You would never know it but a quote from Jimmy dykes is in "The Natural". Its a litle differant in the movie but next time you watch the natural listen for:"I couldn't (slide into second). I carry my cigars in my back pocket and I was afraid I'd break them." - Jimmy Dykes
Its after Hobbs shows up for thhe first game.

[Catfish27]

The Giants recognize their New York roots...
The Giants don't honor their New York roots anymore than the Athletics honor their Philadelphia roots. Yes, a few NY greats have their numbers retired, but the Giants' focus is on their history in San Francisco. Their ballpark features a statue of Wille Mays (http://www.the4cs.com/~corin/photos/2004/genodix/2004050913050.html) (slugging a ball, not making "The Catch", which occurred in New York) and the area behind the right field wall is called "McCovey Cove" (http://www.inetours.com/images/Snglimg2/McCovey_Cove_1701.jpg). Ask folks at the ballpark who Bill Terry or Mel Ott was and you'll likely be met with blank stares.

The Oakland Athletics do honor their history in both Kansas City and Philadelphia. For example, the patch they wore on their uniform sleeves during the 2000 season:



The tarp covering the upper level of the Coliseum this year includes five large blue circles with the years that the A's won the World Series in Philadelphia.

[nl1899fan]

Does it bother anyone else that the Oakland A's pay what appears to be almost no homage to their Philadelphia roots and the many great players and teams that called themselves Athletics while in Philadelphia? (The same could also be said of the Twins, who do not honor some of the great players that played for the original Senators, and the Orioles, but the St. Louis Browns don't have much to honor). The Giants recognize their New York roots and the Dodgers recognize some of their Brooklyn roots.

The Philadelphia Athletics had two great dynasties and a collection of the greatest players that ever lived, but you would never know of this great tradition upon entering the Oakland Colosseum (or whatever its called now). The A's are so stingy with honor their heroes that they didn't even get around to Reggie Jackson until like last year.

It's time this team got around to honoring Foxx and Grove and Cochrane and Simmons and Collins and Baker and Plank and Bender and Mack, even if they didn't have numbers. Just something to that recognizes that these great players were great for the Athletics, even if it wasn't in Oakland. They deserve to be remembered.


No, it isn't really bothersome. Why should the A's pay homage to their roots? They abandoned Philadelphia long ago and Oakland fans could care less about those great old teams. Grove, Foxx and the rest will always be remembered by fans including those who never saw them play. The Philadelphia A's still belong to Philadelphia since they brought great baseball to that city in their heyday.

It probably would help if it were required for a team to change its name when it moves. The names of the A's, Dodgers, Giants and Braves should have been left with their old cities-if I owned a team and moved it I'd want to start out with a new name anyway. Part of the reason the Twins don't honor Walter Johnson and other Senator greats is because they changed their name and that's fine-Johnson gave his greatness to Washington, not Minnesota. The Rangers, Orioles and Brewers seem to similarly ignore their origins (and well they should given their wretched histories in their old locations) and that's fine too. When a team moves its history rightfully belongs with its old home where its old fans can care about it-not with its new home where the new fans mostly could care less.

[philliesfiend55]

I visited the Philadelphia Athletics Museum in Hatboro, PA in 2004. It's in Montgomery County and its about 10 miles due North of the city. The Museums' Publicity director was busy getting some information for the Oakland A's Public Relations director. There was some event being planned at a game in Oakland to pay tribute to the team's Philadelphia roots. So some effort has been made by Oakland management at least periodically to harken back to the A's Philly days.
When the Phillies moved from Veterans Stadium to Citizens Bank Park between the 2003 and 2004 seasons, virtually all vestiges that an American League team once existed in Philadelphia were eliminated by Phillies management. The Philadelphia A's Museum that I mentioned above, bought all of the Athletics players' Wall Of Fame plaques from the Phillies. The statue of Connie Mack outside the new park has a list of all the Philadelphia A's who were elected to the Wall Of Fame engraved on the back of its base. The Phillies annual Media Guides include that same list. That's it! There are no other mentions of the Athletics in that park, nor are there any attempts by Phillies management to keep the memory alive of the Athletics. Quite the opposite.
So in my opinion the Oakland A's are currently doing more to keep the memory alive of the Philadelphia Athletics than the Philadelphia Phillies are - Much more!
-philliesfiend55-

[spark240]

Why should the A's pay homage to their roots? They abandoned Philadelphia long ago and Oakland fans could care less about those great old teams.

The use of the word "abandoned" suggests you haven't read much of the actual circumstances of the franchise's departure from Philadelphia. It was an entirely different situation than the Dodgers move, for example. Elysian Fields (http://www.efqreview.com/) had an article a couple issues ago that's a fair starting point for learning about it.

There are arguments different ways on what heritage properly belongs to what teams and cities, but ultimately I think the classiest position for a modern franchise to take is to honor all the baseball history of their city (including past minor league teams) and to honor the history of their franchise from other cities, if applicable. The Braves do this reasonably well; when you visit Turner Field, be sure to give yourself time to see the museum (http://roadsidegeorgia.com/site/bravesmuseum.html).

For that matter, I happen to like the plaque in Troy, New York (http://www.ballparkreviews.com/places/troy.htm), that reads "Birthplace of the San Francisco Giants."

You can't have too much history. :cap:

[nl1899fan]

The use of the word "abandoned" suggests you haven't read much of the actual circumstances of the franchise's departure from Philadelphia. It was an entirely different situation than the Dodgers move, for example. Elysian Fields (http://www.efqreview.com/) had an article a couple issues ago that's a fair starting point for learning about it.

There are arguments different ways on what heritage properly belongs to what teams and cities, but ultimately I think the classiest position for a modern franchise to take is to honor all the baseball history of their city (including past minor league teams) and to honor the history of their franchise from other cities, if applicable. The Braves do this reasonably well; when you visit Turner Field, be sure to give yourself time to see the museum (http://roadsidegeorgia.com/site/bravesmuseum.html).

For that matter, I happen to like the plaque in Troy, New York (http://www.ballparkreviews.com/places/troy.htm), that reads "Birthplace of the San Francisco Giants."

You can't have too much history. :cap:

Actually, my understanding of the A's move to Kansas City was that the American League was eager to move west and found an ideal candidate in Philadelphia given the Macks' family and financial problems. The AL backed the faction eager to sell to Arnold Johnson figuring the better financed Phillies would eventually outperform the A's and that Kansas City would be as lucrative for the AL as Milwaukee was (at the time) for the NL. I guess it can be said that the AL abandoned Philadelphia more than the A's did.

[spark240]

Actually, my understanding of the A's move to Kansas City was that the American League was eager to move west and found an ideal candidate in Philadelphia given the Macks' family and financial problems. The AL backed the faction eager to sell to Arnold Johnson figuring the better financed Phillies would eventually outperform the A's and that Kansas City would be as lucrative for the AL as Milwaukee was (at the time) for the NL. I guess it can be said that the AL abandoned Philadelphia more than the A's did.

That would be a better way to put it. The other makes it sound like Connie Mack was Walter O'Malley, which he assuredly was not. Mack Senior absolutely wanted to keep the team in Philadelphia, and at certain points he was probably misled about other people's intentions with respect to that. The New York Yankees had a hand in it as well, which is why Kansas City's status as a NYY farm city was not substantially different at the end of the 1950's from what it had been at the beginning.

[PhilaPhanDave]

That would be a better way to put it. The other makes it sound like Connie Mack was Walter O'Malley, which he assuredly was not. Mack Senior absolutely wanted to keep the team in Philadelphia, and at certain points he was probably misled about other people's intentions with respect to that. The New York Yankees had a hand in it as well, which is why Kansas City's status as a NYY farm city was not substantially different at the end of the 1950's from what it had been at the beginning.

Oddly enough, I was flipping through Bruce Kuklick's book about Shibe Park (To Everything a Season) the other day, and read a passage where it stated that Connie Mack and his sons weeped after signing the agreement selling the Athletics to Arnold Johnson; he definitely wanted to keep the team in Philadelphia, but financially it made more sense to sell.

I truly believe that the Yankees were working behind the scenes with Johnson to get the A's to move to Kansas City.

[Sooperdon]

And certainly there is no player from the KC stop-over that didn't play in Oakland that merits real attention.

Unless you count the players given to the Yankees in sweetheart deals.
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/corner/c042001b.shtml

[Iron Jaw]

Oakland fans barely realize that the A's originally started in Philadelphia. And certainly there is no player from the KC stop-over that didn't play in Oakland that merits real attention.

Roger Maris fans might argue with that.......of course, Roger didn't gain his fame in KC, which then was considered, the AAAA farm club for the Yankees.:shhh:

I always liked Ed Charles. And Norm Siebern.

[Iron Jaw]

When a team forgets their history it annoys me so much. I said how the senators were erased from twins history in another thread. These teams need to remember the whole franchise not just after a move and on. The A's and Twins dont have no former philidelphia A or Washington senator retired numbers. The twins have no senator in there hall of fame. It's sad that some great players have no team to remember them any more like Walter Johnson, Eddie Plank, Jimmie Foxx, Etc. I bet Connie Mack's rolling in his grave.

One of the problems with that was the expansion Washington Senators, who of course, are the current Texas Rangers. Many who don't know the history of the original franchise think the new Senators were the historical team and the Twins were the expansion team.

[EdTarbusz]

I think the Orioles should honor Sisler in their park as well, even if it just his name on the outfield wall.

Why? Sisler has no history in Baltimore. Just like Grove, Foxx et al have no history in Oakland.

[EdTarbusz]

Actually, my understanding of the A's move to Kansas City was that the American League was eager to move west and found an ideal candidate in Philadelphia given the Macks' family and financial problems. The AL backed the faction eager to sell to Arnold Johnson figuring the better financed Phillies would eventually outperform the A's and that Kansas City would be as lucrative for the AL as Milwaukee was (at the time) for the NL. I guess it can be said that the AL abandoned Philadelphia more than the A's did.

The A's were the black hole of the AL at the end of the Mack family's ownership. I doubt if any AL team wanted to make the trip to Philadelphia because they were almost guarenteed to take a finacial loss for the trip.

[nl1899fan]

The A's were the black hole of the AL at the end of the Mack family's ownership. I doubt if any AL team wanted to make the trip to Philadelphia because they were almost guarenteed to take a finacial loss for the trip.

How true! One can imagine in the early 1950's how happy teams like the Yankees and Indians must have been to visit Philadelphia and St Louis-some easy wins but hardly enough money to cover the hotel bill. In retrospect, Ban Johnson's attempts to capture both cities for the AL failed but at least Philly had some of the greatest teams ever.

[21st&Lehigh]

I visited the Philadelphia Athletics Museum in Hatboro, PA in 2004. It's in Montgomery County and its about 10 miles due North of the city. The Museums' Publicity director was busy getting some information for the Oakland A's Public Relations director. There was some event being planned at a game in Oakland to pay tribute to the team's Philadelphia roots. So some effort has been made by Oakland management at least periodically to harken back to the A's Philly days.
When the Phillies moved from Veterans Stadium to Citizens Bank Park between the 2003 and 2004 seasons, virtually all vestiges that an American League team once existed in Philadelphia were eliminated by Phillies management. The Philadelphia A's Museum that I mentioned above, bought all of the Athletics players' Wall Of Fame plaques from the Phillies. The statue of Connie Mack outside the new park has a list of all the Philadelphia A's who were elected to the Wall Of Fame engraved on the back of its base. The Phillies annual Media Guides include that same list. That's it! There are no other mentions of the Athletics in that park, nor are there any attempts by Phillies management to keep the memory alive of the Athletics. Quite the opposite.
So in my opinion the Oakland A's are currently doing more to keep the memory alive of the Philadelphia Athletics than the Philadelphia Phillies are - Much more!
-philliesfiend55-

Although the Phiilies sold the A's Wall of Fame plaques to the A's Historical Society when moving from the Vet, they chose to remember former Phillie and Athletic's stars in the Hall of Fame seating section. Located in the Hall of Fame Club behind the Press Box, Cooperstown Gallery contains 32 oil paintings of Hall of Fame players from the Phillies, Philadelphia Athletics and Native Sons who are enshrined in the Baseball Hall of Fame. Cooperstown Gallery is one of the many stops on the ballpark tours. Even an Oakland A is portrayed here, Reggie Jackson because of his Philly routes. Also,
Located on the back of the batter's eye walls is an illustrated history of Philadelphia baseball, including the Phillies, Philadelphia Athletics and Negro League teams in the city.
I don't think the city vs. franchise argument is exclusive, the Athletics' history belongs to both and should be shared by both.

[21st&Lehigh]

Is it true that the "Official" name of the historical Senators (Now Twins) was the Washington Nationals up until the mid 1950's? I read somewhere that the unofficial name, Senators was more popular than "Nationals". I see old clippings and cards with the word "Nats" on them.

[philliesfiend55]

Unfortunately, that painting gallery that contains many former Athletics srars paintings is in such an exclusive section that the average fan will never see them unless he or she takes the "stadium tour". On gamedays that gallery is off limits to all but those who can afford seats in that "hall Of fame" section. The cost is highly prohibitibve. If somebody gives up these exclusive seats for one game and sells them through Stub Hub or another ticket agency, I'm guessing you'll pay a minimum of $80 to $100 apiece for one-game seating, and season tickets can be afforded by only a lucky few.
That's not much of a tribute to the Phila. Athletics as most fans will never see those paintings and only a small percentage of fans are even aware of their existance.

[bummy davis]

The Phillies still honor the A's existence in Philadelphia. In addition to the statue of Connie Mack in front of the ballpark there is a Wall of Fame section that includes the history of Philadelphia baseball to include Phillies and A's players from the early 1900's in the outfield concourse. On the second level of the stadium in the Hall of Fame Club there are several photos of prominient A's and Phillies players and of course Connie Mack (pictured with Babe Ruth) and oil paintings of hometown heroes of the likes of Tommy Lasorda and Reggie Jackson. The Phillies have done a first class job in keeping the memories of Connie Mack and his A's preserved!

[icee82]

Unfortunately many baseball fans have no concept of their team's history. Every Friday evening, the Reds have a game during their pre-game show whereby fans are asked questions to win prizes. If you can answer four consecutive questions, you receive two tickets to a Reds' game. I am amazed that few people know trivia questions on their favorite franchise from ten years ago. If you dip back into the 60's and 70's with questions, most people have no clue. It is sad how little information that people know about their team's history.

[philliesfiend55]

The Phillies still honor the A's existence in Philadelphia. In addition to the statue of Connie Mack in front of the ballpark there is a Wall of Fame section that includes the history of Philadelphia baseball to include Phillies and A's players from the early 1900's in the outfield concourse. On the second level of the stadium in the Hall of Fame Club there are several photos of prominient A's and Phillies players and of course Connie Mack (pictured with Babe Ruth) and oil paintings of hometown heroes of the likes of Tommy Lasorda and Reggie Jackson. The Phillies have done a first class job in keeping the memories of Connie Mack and his A's preserved!

I'd still have to argue that the current Phillies' management/ownership removed the plaques of all Athletics from the Philadelphia Of Wall Of Fame when the Phillies moved to their new home in 2004. The plaques of those Athletics elected between 1978 and 2003 were given to the Philadelphia Athletics Historical Society & Museum and Athletics elections to "The Wall" were discontinued at that point.
It fell to a few die-hard Athletics fans, who founded the A's Historical Society, most of whom were no more than 12 years old when the Athletics played their last season in Philadelphia 55 years ago, to keep the memory of that franchise alive and to pay it a proper tribute.
The Phillies' management and ownership has done more to bury the memory of their American League counterparts in the City Of Brotherly Love than to preserve it.
-philliesfiend55-

[kjc15600]

Why? Sisler has no history in Baltimore. Just like Grove, Foxx et al have no history in Oakland.

I agree. Those great players from the Philadelphia A's played in Philly, and represented the city and region as much as they represented the team. Even though the franchise technically still exists, it should be treated like a separated organization, IMO. The A's have done a nice job establishing their own history in Oakland. The great players like Grove and Foxx played in and represented Philadelphia.

As a Philadelphia-area resident, i present this hypothetical. Let's say the Red Sox franchise moved to Philadelphia and became the Philadelphia Red Sox. Should Philly start erecting statues of Ted Williams? I say no, because Ted Williams means more to Boston than Philly.

Also, if the Phillies moved to New Orleans, I would be pretty ticked off if New Orleans started honoring former greats like Mike Schmidt and Richie Ashburn. Those players played in, and played for, the city and region of Philadelphia.

[kjc15600]

I'd still have to argue that the current Phillies' management/ownership removed the plaques of all Athletics from the Philadelphia Of Wall Of Fame when the Phillies moved to their new home in 2004. The plaques of those Athletics elected between 1978 and 2003 were given to the Philadelphia Athletics Historical Society & Museum and Athletics elections to "The Wall" were discontinued at that point.
It fell to a few die-hard Athletics fans, who founded the A's Historical Society, most of whom were no more than 12 years old when the Athletics played their last season in Philadelphia 55 years ago, to keep the memory of that franchise alive and to pay it a proper tribute.
The Phillies' management and ownership has done more to bury the memory of their American League counterparts in the City Of Brotherly Love than to preserve it.
-philliesfiend55-


Respect you opinion, but I don't necessarily think it is the Phillies responsibility to honor the Athletics. The Phillies have their own history to honor, a history that started before the Athletics even existed. It would be a nice gesture, and I love the fact that there is a small amount of A's history at CBP, but in no way is it the Phillies obligation to do so.

Should the Yankees have special tributes to the Dodgers and Giants all around NYS? Some would argue it would be nce, but they have absolutely no obligation to do so.