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charlesblalack@yahoo.com
09-29-2005, 06:40 PM
Overall, (foul area, gaps, climate etc.) what MLB park do yall think favors hitters the most?

charlesblalack@yahoo.com
09-29-2005, 06:56 PM
Here is the Top 10 parks in the leauge favoring hitters in the area of Runs using ESPN's "Park Factor" stat. This stat isn't very dependable because it is based on the performances of hitters on that team, not anybody else.
1.Fenway Park (Red Sox)
2 Kauffman Stadium (Royals)
3 Coors Field (Rockies)
4 Ameriquest Field (Rangers)
5 Bank One Ballpark (Diamondbacks)
6 Rogers Centre (Blue Jays)
7 Metrodome (Twins)
8 Minute Maid Park (Astros)
9 Wrigley Field (Cubs)
10 Miller Park (Brewers)
11 Citizens Bank Park (Phillies)
12 Tropicana Field (Devil Rays)
13 Great American (Reds)
14 PNC Park (Pirates)
15 Shea Stadium (Mets)

darkplague17
09-29-2005, 07:11 PM
Its Coors field and then Fenway. Fenway is just a ridicilous ball park. If another team today tried to build something that looked like Fenway, they'd get shot down easily.

PopTop
09-29-2005, 07:17 PM
Over the last three seasons or so, I'd be willing to bet that the old Ballpark in Arlington has surrendered the most homers and ranks in the top 2-3 in total runs.

sschirmer
09-30-2005, 10:15 AM
Wow, I can't believe Great American is that far down. It seems to play like a bandbox. Coors isn't so much the park, but rather the location it's in.

Sound2TheBay™
09-30-2005, 10:02 PM
Camden Yards.

Ravenlord
10-01-2005, 06:19 PM
Wow, I can't believe Great American is that far down. It seems to play like a bandbox. Coors isn't so much the park, but rather the location it's in.
Great America actually plays as a slight pitcher's park. it allows an incredible ammount of homers, but that's quite possibly just the Reds pitchers. as long as you're not a flyball pitcher, you'll do well at GAB (assuming you don't suck to begin with).

Chisox73
10-01-2005, 09:02 PM
Over the last three seasons or so, I'd be willing to bet that the old Ballpark in Arlington has surrendered the most homers and ranks in the top 2-3 in total runs.
Actually,that honor goes to of all places,US Cellular Field in Chicago as far as home runs are concerned.

rainout
10-02-2005, 01:21 AM
Great America actually plays as a slight pitcher's park. it allows an incredible ammount of homers, but that's quite possibly just the Reds pitchers. as long as you're not a flyball pitcher, you'll do well at GAB (assuming you don't suck to begin with).

Has anyone with tthe Reds ever attempted to explain the acquisition of Eric Milton? What a dumb move.

Ravenlord
10-02-2005, 10:45 AM
Has anyone with tthe Reds ever attempted to explain the acquisition of Eric Milton? What a dumb move.
"he knows how to win" and "the Yankees wanted him" and "we think he can become a sinkerball pitcher."

on the plus side, the Reds did fire the guy who said the third thing.

sschirmer
10-07-2005, 10:23 AM
Great America actually plays as a slight pitcher's park. it allows an incredible ammount of homers, but that's quite possibly just the Reds pitchers. as long as you're not a flyball pitcher, you'll do well at GAB (assuming you don't suck to begin with).

Let me guess, Dan O'Brien is your brother-in-law? His whole arguement in signing Milton is that GABP plays as a neutral park. Apparently, he's never been to a game there.

ArealBASEBALLfan
10-07-2005, 02:04 PM
How can Fenway even be on the list. do you know how hard it would be to hit it over the green monster?

sschirmer
10-07-2005, 02:39 PM
How can Fenway even be on the list. do you know how hard it would be to hit it over the green monster?

Ah yeah, not very.

Joltin' Joe
10-07-2005, 09:36 PM
I don't understand how anyone can vote for any park that is not called COORS FIELD :confused:

sschirmer
10-08-2005, 07:41 AM
I don't understand how anyone can vote for any park that is not called COORS FIELD :confused:

My only reason for that is I that I believe the city it is located in, and not the park itself, is responsible for the offensive numbers there. If we are talking "hitters city", then yes, I would vote for Denver.

Ravenlord
10-08-2005, 02:37 PM
Let me guess, Dan O'Brien is your brother-in-law? His whole arguement in signing Milton is that GABP plays as a neutral park. Apparently, he's never been to a game there.
if you throw groundballs, you get the benefit of the rain forest that the Reds call an infield. look at the splits the last 3 years on the excessive FB pitchers and the excessive GB pitchers. unless you're a crappy GB pitcher to begin with (Anderson, Graves) you have better numbers at GAB.

and O'Brien's logic is as above..."he knows how to win," "the Yankees wanted him," and Gullett told everybody he could turn Milton into a sinkerballer.

and if Dan O'Brien was an in-law of of mine, i would have killed him and taken his place by now.

sschirmer
10-08-2005, 06:01 PM
if you throw groundballs, you get the benefit of the rain forest that the Reds call an infield. look at the splits the last 3 years on the excessive FB pitchers and the excessive GB pitchers. unless you're a crappy GB pitcher to begin with (Anderson, Graves) you have better numbers at GAB.

and O'Brien's logic is as above..."he knows how to win," "the Yankees wanted him," and Gullett told everybody he could turn Milton into a sinkerballer.

and if Dan O'Brien was an in-law of of mine, i would have killed him and taken his place by now.

LOL! I'm glad you took the joke! Milty is a flyball pitcher, and GABP is where flyball pitchers go to die!

csh19792001
10-08-2005, 10:00 PM
Great America actually plays as a slight pitcher's park. it allows an incredible ammount of homers, but that's quite possibly just the Reds pitchers. as long as you're not a flyball pitcher, you'll do well at GAB (assuming you don't suck to begin with).

You're correct, as odd as it seems.

What's the park factor been for the place that has been deemed "The Great American Bandbox"?

It's was 3rd among the 30 stadiums in home run factor in 2005, but only 13th in terms in overall park factor.

In 2004, 13th in terms of HRS, 23rd in park factor.

2003: 5th, 17th.

csh19792001
10-08-2005, 10:03 PM
Has anyone with tthe Reds ever attempted to explain the acquisition of Eric Milton? What a dumb move.

Has to be the worst season put together by anyone with a full season worth of starts (34) in my entire lifetime. Truly pathetic campaign.

efin98
10-09-2005, 02:01 AM
How can Fenway even be on the list. do you know how hard it would be to hit it over the green monster?

Even if it's 37' tall it's still only 310' from home plate. Not to mention right field is only 302' with a short wall.

There's a reason Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz have over 40 homers and 140 RBIs each this year:eek:

efin98
10-09-2005, 02:06 AM
My only reason for that is I that I believe the city it is located in, and not the park itself, is responsible for the offensive numbers there. If we are talking "hitters city", then yes, I would vote for Denver.

The dimensions would be "a pitcher's park" at most, neutral in the least in any other city. It's the thin air that sends the balls flying, that and the bad pitching:laugh

Joltin' Joe
10-09-2005, 08:14 AM
The dimensions would be "a pitcher's park" at most, neutral in the least in any other city. It's the thin air that sends the balls flying, that and the bad pitching:laugh


The big park also accounts for a ton of balls dropping in between the outfielders for a single, double, & triples. And because of the thin air, despite the huge dimensions, the balls fly out of the park as well.

The third element is that in the thin air, breaking balls do not break, curves don't curve, sinkers don't sink, splitters don't split(?), etc etc etc.....

SHOELESSJOE3
10-09-2005, 10:51 PM
The big park also accounts for a ton of balls dropping in between the outfielders for a single, double, & triples. And because of the thin air, despite the huge dimensions, the balls fly out of the park as well.

The third element is that in the thin air, breaking balls do not break, curves don't curve, sinkers don't sink, splitters don't split(?), etc etc etc.....

That says it all Joe, I posted the same, almost exactly the same words earlier.

On your first paragraph. The fact that outfielders know that balls carry well there causes them to play deeper and as you state allows more balls to drop in front of the outfielders.

You touch on the breaking balls, breaking less at Coors, very important. I think we all know the difference in even fractions of an inch where the bat meets the ball, the difference between driving the ball or getting under it.

Coors has it all, if your the batter. I saw some where that a ball hit at Yankee Stadium 400 feet would travel 420 to 440 at Coors.

Blackout
10-10-2005, 01:15 AM
best park: fenway

best weather atmosphere: coors

:D

Blackout
10-10-2005, 01:16 AM
How can Fenway even be on the list. do you know how hard it would be to hit it over the green monster?


because what would be a routine fly ball at most stadiums can EASILY turn into either a double or a home run at fenway (or if your a fast runner you can squeeze a triple off Manny)

efin98
10-10-2005, 10:22 PM
because what would be a routine fly ball at most stadiums can EASILY turn into either a double or a home run at fenway (or if your a fast runner you can squeeze a triple off Manny)

Left field, yes. But the opposite can be said about center field, one of the deepest in the league and toughest to play thanks to the "triangle"(just ask Torii Hunter).

SHOELESSJOE3
10-10-2005, 10:46 PM
because what would be a routine fly ball at most stadiums can EASILY turn into either a double or a home run at fenway (or if your a fast runner you can squeeze a triple off Manny)

Right on BLACKOUT, does this tell us something about "The Wall" almost as well known as the Berlin Wall.:p


Both left handed but you can be sure both these guys put some dents in that wall in left field.

Ted Williams---- Doubles---home 319-----away----206
Yaz-------------Doubles---home 382-----away---264

WOW you talking big time difference, love that wall.

four tool
10-11-2005, 05:34 AM
Coor without a doubt

four tool
10-11-2005, 05:38 AM
A lot Fenway balls that would be HRs in other parks bounce of the Green Monster.
Coors gets the nod bevcause the home/road splits for Rockies players are always the most lopsided.

digglahhh
10-11-2005, 12:44 PM
Yes, but certainly more prevalent are the flyballs that would be outs at other stadiums which become doubles and homeruns.

sschirmer
10-13-2005, 10:15 AM
Yes, but certainly more prevalent are the flyballs that would be outs at other stadiums which become doubles and homeruns.

Exactly. That's what I'm talking about.

charlesblalack@yahoo.com
11-27-2005, 11:19 AM
Looks like Coors won this one by a landslide.

Gjm130
01-24-2006, 02:16 PM
The best hitting park, it's got to be Minute Maid....
They have the smallest playing field.....

runningshoes
01-24-2006, 02:20 PM
Kinda loaded this one putting Coors at the top, eh? ;)

Sean O
01-24-2006, 04:21 PM
Maybe I'm alone, but I tend to go by stats. Coors is the most consistantly insane hitter's park in MLB history. against righties, it's the LA Coliseum, against lefties, my guess is Baker Bowl.

Dontworry
01-24-2006, 04:23 PM
Coors, It can literally invalidate statistics.

Pretty Much Vinny Castilla's entire career has been a product of that park.

Maldonado
01-25-2006, 12:02 PM
Completely agreed simply because of the science involved. For a ball hit 400 feet at sea level, it will go 435 feet at Coors. Add to that the fact that Denver has little humidity, which will add a few more feet.