Name the Oriole

[steveox]

Thats Jim Dwyer.. Man if i was on Oriole Jeopardy id be rich by now.

[VIBaseball]

You are good, steveox -- let's see how you do here. Next Oriole...

[steveox]

God,,Youre making me laugh way too easy!! its Jose Morales

[VIBaseball]

Well, and I thought "Shady" would be tough, since he was only there for one season and a few games. But he is recognizable, and you're in the zone, steveox.

Next Oriole...

[steveox]

I cant see that pic to well youre gonna have to blow it up a bit but,,,Ill give 2 days for someone answer this.I been here to hoggy so its time to let someone else guess.

[runningshoes]

The pic is too small. My eyes aren't what they used to be.

[VIBaseball]

I'm spoiled, guys -- I have a big screen. But that is a small pic (unfortunately, the best one available for this player). I'll blow it up and repost it above, but this comes at the loss of image quality.

[steveox]

Get another pic of him

[VIBaseball]

As you wish, my forum friends...funny, I couldn't find this one on my first search.

[runningshoes]

Looks like Rick Schu.

[VIBaseball]

But it isn't. I'll give it a while (Grandmaster steveox may weigh iin) and then toss out a clue.

[steveox]

I was gonna say the samething it does look like Rick Schu.

[VIBaseball]

I don't remember Schu other than that the Phillies wanted him to succeed Mike Schmidt, and he couldn't possibly fill those shoes.

Anyway, here's clue #1: good glove, no power -- especially for his position.

[runningshoes]

I've been up and down Orioles rosters from 1970 to 1989.

I can't figure it out.

Schu was the only one I could find who really fit the one year and a game clue.

[VIBaseball]

Sorry if that misled you, runningshoes, but the one year plus a few games was a reference to Jose Morales, not the current subject.

This guy was an Oriole longer than that. He later became a manager for several seasons.

[runningshoes]

Ah..ok

Tony Muser

That's my final answer. :D

[steveox]

It could be muser i dont remember him that well.

[VIBaseball]

Muser it is. Our next Oriole has a distinctive mug:

[runningshoes]

That's the destinctive mug of Joe Nolan.

[steveox]

Youre Right,,, It is joe nolan Next oriole

[runningshoes]

Tim Raines, Jr.

Don't show the players number if you can avoid it. It makes it so much easier to figure out.

[steveox]

Right. Its tim Ranes Jr

[VIBaseball]

Hope everyone had a great Christmas. And now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

[steveox]

Its Todd Cruz!!

[VIBaseball]

Yes, that one was back in your wheelhouse, steveox.

Now let's turn the dial back a bit further...here's a two-fer.

[PurpleMafia]

I bet no one gets this one...

[steveox]

CAL RIPKEN!

This man told me

[runningshoes]

Yes, that one was back in your wheelhouse, steveox.

Now let's turn the dial back a bit further...here's a two-fer.

Again, I can't make out their faces enough to identify them.

[PurpleMafia]

CAL RIPKEN!

This man told me


WRONG!!!!!!!


Its Cal Ripken Jr. :laugh ;)

[steveox]

Wiseguy eh?

[Iron Jaw]

This Oriole was once the ace of the Oriole staff.

[runningshoes]

This is just a wild stab in the dark, but judging by the signature on that card, I'd say his name is Raymond Moore. :laugh

[Iron Jaw]

Uh........hmmmmmmmmmmm......Well, he was better known as Ray Moore.

:crazy :crazy

[Iron Jaw]

Try this one:

[66orioles]

Willie Kirkland

[Iron Jaw]

That is Willie. When he played for the Giants they really had the Willies - Mays, McCovey and Kirkland.

[Iron Jaw]

Next Oriole:

[Iron Jaw]

This guy once won 18 games for the Orioles - very unexpectedly.

[VIBaseball]

This guy once won 18 games for the Orioles - very unexpectedly.

I tried to judge the time by how the photo looks, and my first guess was Dave Johnson the pitcher. But I was pretty sure he never won that many, so I thought on...and Jeff Ballard came back to mind.

[Iron Jaw]

I tried to judge the time by how the photo looks, and my first guess was Dave Johnson the pitcher. But I was pretty sure he never won that many, so I thought on...and Jeff Ballard came back to mind.

It is Jeff Ballard. Jeff had that 18 win season back in 1989, when the Orioles made a pennant run (finishing two games back) after hitting rock bottom the year before.

Next Oriole:

[VIBaseball]

How about a clue here, Iron Jaw? This one's not coming to me, even though it looks to be recent.

Meanwhile, here is a semi-legendary Oriole who never actually played a game in the majors:

[hagersbush]

I think it was Mills wwith Chris Hoiles

[buckeyeangler]

The almost mythical Steve Dalkowski?Probably the greatest Oriole story ever, except maybe for Jim Gentile.

[Iron Jaw]

I think it was Mills wwith Chris Hoiles

And you are correct.

[VIBaseball]

The almost mythical Steve Dalkowski?Probably the greatest Oriole story ever, except maybe for Jim Gentile.

Yes, it's Dalko...good guess, buckeyeangler.

Here's a link from 2003 on where Steve is now -- in a nursing home in his hometown of New Britain, CT. But he's doing OK. He's even going to the local minor-league games in New Britain now and again.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/pr/subs/siexclusive/07/09/dalkowski_flashback/

[Iron Jaw]

Next Oriole:

[Aa3rt]

Glad to see some new life in this thread! Is that Norm Sieburn?

[Iron Jaw]

Yes, it is Norm. Pretty good hitter during his days with the KC A's. When Norm was playing first base for the Orioles, big Boog Powell had to play the outfield (as he did prior to Norm, when Jim Gentile was in Baltimore).

Next Oriole:

[Dennie Cunningham]

Chuck Estrada is correct. That 1960 staff of youngsters placed the Orioles in the pennant race for the first time since they were playing in St. Louis in the mid 40's. Estrada, Pappas, Barber, Fisher, along with oldsters Hal "Skinny" Brown and Hoyt Wilhelm started the team on it's way to winning more games than any franchise from 1960-85. After that season, the O's were usually in the race, except for a couple of years (1962,1967) where they were hammered with injuries. Chuck won 18 games that year to tie for the AL lead. He won 15 the next, then had a 9-17 record, the season his arm troubles began.

Here is another favorite Oriole hurler:Could this be Stu Miller???:clapping

[Iron Jaw]

Could this be Stu Miller???:clapping

Are you guessing the pic associated with that quote from a much earlier post on page # 1 - one that was answered correctly as Moe Drabowsky? Or are you guessing Stu Miller as the person in the pic I just posted.

If so, it is not Stu.

[runningshoes]

Pat Dobson

He was one of Baltimore's four twenty-game winners in 1971, along with Jim Palmer, Mike Cuellar, and Dave McNally.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

One should recognize someone with this haircut... :p

It is Pat Dobson.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

Pat Dobson

He was one of Baltimore's four twenty-game winners in 1971, along with Jim Palmer, Mike Cuellar, and Dave McNally.

Once again he's spoiling my party.. :grouchy :grouchy

You were just three minutes in front of me with your answer. I didn't notice.

Good work! :clapping

[runningshoes]

Once again he's spoiling my party.. :grouchy :grouchy

You were just three minutes in front of me with your answer. I didn't notice.

Good work! :clapping

Then we both got it right. :D

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

Then we both got it right. :D

NAH! You were first.

[Dennie Cunningham]

hmmmm...Sam Bowen? :lookitup
There was a Sam Bowen, who played in the Red Sox organization. He was white and played about 10 years after Sam Bowens. He told me that he ordered a supply of bats and they sent him Sam Bowens by mistake.:clapping

[Iron Jaw]

Next Oriole:

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

Grant Jackson.

[Iron Jaw]

That was Jax, who had a few decent seasons in the bullpen during his stay in Baltimore.

Next Oriole:

[runningshoes]

[Iron Jaw]

Merv had a couple of excellent seasons with the O's in 1970-71. His bat left him after that for the most part.

Next Oriole:

[runningshoes]

That's Frank..way too easy. :D

[Iron Jaw]

That's Frank..way too easy. :D

I need to throw a "way too easy" one on occasion - Frank was very young in the 1957 pic - but that profile never changed - even with the elderly Frank in his Nats uniform.

Next Oriole:

[Aa3rt]

Another player who also spent time with the Washington Senators, Frank Bertania!

[Iron Jaw]

A guy who was a top prospect, supposedly loaded with potential, who never made much of an impact in MLB. But I sure remember them talking highly of Bertania - and another, about the same time, was Roger Nelson.

Next Oriole:

[runningshoes]

Baby Bird...Tom Phoebus

[VIBaseball]

Wake-up time for this thread. Our next Oriole quietly appeared in two World Series games for them one year.

[runningshoes]

Dave May....

[runningshoes]

I thought it was Paul Blair a first, but then I thought there's no way he only made two quiet apearances in the World Series.

[Iron Jaw]

Next Oriole:

[runningshoes]

Tommy Davis

153 RBIs in 1962 with the Dodgers.

Sweet.

[Iron Jaw]

Tommy Davis was a hit-machine in his day.

Next Oriole:

[runningshoes]

A young Curt Schilling.

[Iron Jaw]

A young Curt Schilling.

Yeah, that's Curt. One the O's missed the boat on, though they did realize at the time he had raw potential.

Next Oriole:

[Aa3rt]

Iron Jaw-this one was a real challenge!!! That's Johnny Temple who spent most of his career with the Cincinnati Reds, but also spent time with the Indians, Orioles and Houston Colt 45's before hanging up his spikes in 1964.
He only played in 78 games for Baltimore-good choice!

Courtesy Baseball-Almanac:

http://baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=templjo01

[JohnGelnarFan]

You've got a great collection of cards.I'm sorry I missed this Quiz. Steve Barber went to my high school in Maryland. So did Sonny Jackson and Tom Brown who played with the Senators and Redskins in the 60's. Hope you'll do it again!

[Iron Jaw]

Next Oriole:

[JohnGelnarFan]

That's Marvelous Marv! Look at that great defensive positioning!

[Iron Jaw]

That's Marvelous Marv! Look at that great defensive positioning!

That is Marvelous.......Faye's brother.

[JohnGelnarFan]

On page 9 you showed Roric Harrison. Another bit of trivia about him is that he was part of the trade between the 1969 Astros and Pilots that took Jim Bouton to Houston. Dooley Womack and Roric for Bouton.

From "Ball Four"(after finding out about the trade) - "Dooley Womack? Holy Mackerel. The same Dooley Womack whose great spring I almost matched with the Yankees? Oh Lord! I hope there's alot of undisclosed cash involved. I hope a hundred thousand,at least. Maybe it's me for a hundred thousand and Dooley Womack is just a throw-In.I'd hate to think at this stage of my career I was being traded even up for Dooley Womack."

He wasn't.Roric was the throw-In!

[Iron Jaw]

JG Fan, if I remember my Seattle Pilot history correctly, didn't John Gelnar once lose both ends of a double header to Minnesota while Jim Perry won both games?

I also have a John Gelnar baseball card (1965 vintage) - a 1965 Rookie Stars card where he is next to Jerry May during their days in the Pirate organization.

[JohnGelnarFan]

Good memory Iron Jaw. Someone else reminded me of that earlier but without details.Yes,it's true. He actually took 3 losses in a row.
On 7/19/69,the Pilots and Twins played 18 innings,kind of. Bouton got his only start and allowed 2 homers in 3.2 Innings.The game was suspended after 16 innings and completed on 7/20.Perry got the win with 2 innings of scoreless relief. Gelnar allowed 4 runs in 1.1 Minn. won 11-7.Don Mincher went 0-9!
They both started the regulation game on sunday,7/20 (That wouldn't happen these days,would it?) Minn. won 4-0 and Perry pitched a 3 hit shutout.Gelnar allowed 3 runs in 7 Innings.
The Pilots played the Red Sox next and won on 7/24. Gelnar took their next loss,the next day on 7/25.
Just so I don't get yelled at,Marv Throneberry hit .208 in 56 games for the O's in 1961 and .000 in 9 games In 62' before being traded to the Mets.

[runningshoes]

[Mr. Boh]

Lenny Sakata..who happened to be the catcher the night Tippy picked off three Blue Jays in the same inning

[runningshoes]

Right, you are.

Your turn to post one.

[Mr. Boh]

Frank Robinson holds the record for opening day home runs, anyone want to take a stab at how many hit took out on the first day of the season?

[runningshoes]

Frank Robinson holds the record for opening day home runs, anyone want to take a stab at how many hit took out on the first day of the season?

What does the last part of that say?

[Mr. Boh]

What does the last part of that say?

I'm just asking how many times he took it deep on opening day, the first game of the season.

[runningshoes]

I'm just asking how many times he took it deep on opening day, the first game of the season.

He hit three home runs on two different opening days with the Reds and the Orioles and he hlds the record with eight.

[Mr. Boh]

You are correct sir!

[Yankwood]

Who am eye?

[Yankwood]

No guesses?

[runningshoes]

Second baseman Marv Breeding.

Played for the Dodgers and Sens as well

[Yankwood]

As Marv Albert would say, "YES!!!"

[Iron Jaw]

Let's revive this thread:waving


Next Oriole:

[Erik Bedard]

Maybe Jim Gentile?

[runningshoes]

Bob Johnson

[DODGER DEB]

How about BARRY SHETRONE...or perhaps BOB SAVERINE.....or DAVE NICHOLSON!

I know that face, but just can't place it. Come to think of it, he does look a little like JACKIE BRANDT.

c.

[JohnGelnarFan]

I think it's Bob Johnson too. He was a very good hitter.

Who is this Oriole?

[runningshoes]

I think it's Bob Johnson too. He was a very good hitter.

Who is this Oriole?

[Iron Jaw]

That first pic is indeed Bob Johnson, a decent utility player for the O's and other clubs.

Next Oriole:

[soberdennis]

No. 41 is Billy O'Dell.

[DODGER DEB]

That, I do believe, is BARRY SHETRONE!

c.

[JohnGelnarFan]

Rick Dempsey is correct Troy! He looks strange without the moustache.

[Iron Jaw]

That, I do believe, is BARRY SHETRONE!

c.

It is Barry Shetrone - another "can't miss" kid who missed.

Next Oriole:

[JohnGelnarFan]

That's Dave Leonhard,isn't it?

[JohnGelnarFan]

Who is this Oriole great?

[Iron Jaw]

That's Dave Leonhard,isn't it?

That is Dave. I thought he was going to become a top-flight pitcher at one time. He had a couple of decent seasons as a part-time starter/reliever (1968-69), but never made it big and didn't stick around too long.

[Iron Jaw]

The 1966 Card sure looks like Vic Roznovsky after he was shipped to the Orioles from the Cubs.

[JohnGelnarFan]

That's good Iron Jaw. :clapping I didn't think anyone remembered Vic!




The 1966 Card sure looks like Vic Roznovsky after he was shipped to the Orioles from the Cubs.

[Iron Jaw]

Next Oriole:

[Iron Jaw]

The player was an excellent infielder for a few years with the O's.

[Yankwood]

Is it Bob Bonner?

[Iron Jaw]

Is it Bob Bonner?

Not Bob.

The pictured player replaced this guy in the Oriole lineup:

[soberdennis]

The Angel is Doug Decinces, who replaced another O's Infieler Somebody heard of.

[JohnGelnarFan]

Rich Dauer? If it is,his long hair fooled me. The Angel pictured is actually Bobby Grich,SD



Next Oriole:

[Iron Jaw]

Rich Dauer? If it is,his long hair fooled me. The Angel pictured is actually Bobby Grich,SD

It is a young Rich Dauer. And the Angel pictured is Bobby Grich - I suppose, with the mustache he bears somewhat of a resemblence to Doug DeCinces.

Bobby Grich played for the O's from 1970-76. He departed to California for "mo money" in 1977 and the O's brought up Rich Dauer to play second - who initally platooned with Billy Smith (who came over from the Angels).

[Iron Jaw]

Next Oriole:

[Yankwood]

Robin Roberts

[Iron Jaw]

Robin Roberts

Of course, that is Robin Roberts, who had 3 1/2 years as a starting pitcher for the Orioles after his great career with the Phillies.

Next Oriole:

[Yankwood]

The one and only Earl Williams.

[Iron Jaw]

The one and only Earl Williams.

Earl it is. Prior to the 1973 season, the Orioles traded Davey Johnson, Roric Harrison, Pat Dobson and Johnny Oates to the Braves for Williams and minor leaguer, Taylor Duncan. Weaver wanted Earl's power in the Oriole lineup and was counting on him to be the full-time catcher. The problem was, Earl wasn't a particularly effective receiver.

Earl belted 22 homeruns for the O's that season - but Davey Johnson, who only hit five HRs for the O's in 1972, knocked 43 (a record for second basemen) out of the park for the Braves in 1973, though Johnson would never again acheive anything close to that (even in Japan). Earl showed tremendous potential as a hitter during his first two seasons with the Braves (Rookie of the Year, 1971), but his bat continued to fade the rest of his career.

[Iron Jaw]

Next Oriole:

[JohnGelnarFan]

Wayne Garland. A big contract took him to Cleveland and he payed them back with 20 losses!

[JohnGelnarFan]

Who is this Oriole?

[Yankwood]

The Big Moe. Moe Drabowsky.

[Iron Jaw]

Next Oriole:

[Yankwood]

Joe Orsulak

[Iron Jaw]

Joe Orsulak

Yeah, it's Joe. Pretty steady player for the O's.

Next Oriole:

[Yankwood]

Wow! That looks like a very young Dorrel "Whitey" Herzog.

[Iron Jaw]

Wow! That looks like a very young Dorrel "Whitey" Herzog.

That indeed, is Whitey. A bit trimmer in those days.


Next Oriole (one of those guys who wore a Browns and Orioles uniform - and he was traded back to the org. twice after leaving).

[JohnGelnarFan]

That's Clint Courtney,isn't it? I think they called him something like "scrap iron". Didn't he come up with the first big knuckleball catchers mitt to handle Hoyt Wilhelm?

[Yankwood]

I believe Clint was only 48 when he died, which is odd because he looks 58 on that baseball card.

[Iron Jaw]

That's Clint Courtney,isn't it? I think they called him something like "scrap iron". Didn't he come up with the first big knuckleball catchers mitt to handle Hoyt Wilhelm?

You know, I think that was attibuted to Gus Triandos but I'm not really sure. At any rate, Gus was the victim of Wilhelm in 1959 - Gus was the Oriole starting catcher and Wilhelm was in the starting rotation that season - Hoyt's only year as a full-time starter. Hoyt had a good year, but Gus suffered behind the plate.

[DODGER DEB]

You know, I think that was attibuted to Gus Triandos but I'm not really sure. At any rate, Gus was the victim of Wilhelm in 1959 - Gus was the Oriole starting catcher and Wilhelm was in the starting rotation that season - Hoyt's only year as a full-time starter. Hoyt had a good year, but Gus suffered behind the plate.

You are right, Iron Jaw. It was Gus who, in self defense, came up with that catcher's mitt, while he was catching Hoyt. As I remember, he had some input from Paul Richards on it.

c.

[JohnGelnarFan]

Clint Courtney was the first catcher to wear glasses.

[JohnGelnarFan]

Post #375-Terry said Moe Drabowsky but It's John Miller! 1962-1967 12-14 with a 3.89 ERA




Who is this Oriole?

[JohnGelnarFan]

Who Is This Oriole?

[Iron Jaw]

That is Jim Hardin, who helped save the Oriole staff from complete disaster when he came up from the minors, mid-season 1967. After winning the WS the year before, the O's faced injuries to Dave McNally, Wally Bunker, Steve Barber (on-again/off again) and and a near career-ending sore arm to Jim Palmer. Rookie Tom Phoebus became the staff ace, and he was greatly aided by Hardin when he came up.

Hardin had an outstanding year in 1968, winning 18 games, but developed a sore arm at some point during the 1969 season and was never the same again (right when Palmer was staging his comeback).

[JohnGelnarFan]

It Is Jim Hardin who was a valuable member of the best Orioles teams ever.:clapping

[JohnGelnarFan]

Who is this Oriole?

[VIBaseball]

It is Andres Mora, a Mexican League power hitter. He came to the Orioles with great expectations, but only showed a glimpse of power, and wound up back in the Mexican Leagues after a few seasons in MLB.

I would appreciate it if anyone has information on how the O's came to sign Mora from Mexico, especially who their scout down there was.

Meanwhile, I will dust off this great thread. I will admit to looking up the last Oriole posted just to clear him (it's Joe Coleman, Sr.). Next Oriole:

[VIBaseball]

Time for a clue. As a rookie, our current Oriole was the second-leading winner on a surprise turnaround team. However, he would reach double digits in wins only once more in his career.

[Dalkowski110]

Happened to be going through my 1991 Upper Deck cards and it's Bob Milacki. Do I do one of these now? If so, I do have a good one. And no, it has nothing to do with the guy in my avatar.

[VIBaseball]

Yes, you're up, Dalko.

[Dalkowski110]

In that case, we have this man. He was a teammate of Steve Dalkowski's at one point in the Minor Leagues, which narrows it down to over 100.

[Dalkowski110]

If nobody can answer this, by the way, I actually have a very good hint.

[Lucas718]

I would appreciate it if anyone has information on how the O's came to sign Mora from Mexico, especially who their scout down there was.

Meanwhile, I will dust off this great thread. I will admit to looking up the last Oriole posted just to clear him (it's Joe Coleman, Sr.). Next Oriole:

Here's the best writeup on Mora I could find. Hope it helps:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Andres_Mora

[VIBaseball]

Thanks for spotting my request, Lucas. I've seen that piece, and it's a good one, but it doesn't have the extra bit I'm looking for. I'm digging a good bit deeper.

[Dalkowski110]

Nobody? Need that hint?

[J W]

I don't know... but I found one teammate of Steve Dalkowski in the minors.

Pat Gillick!

[Dalkowski110]

Yep, Pat was a teammate of Steve's for a couple years from 1962 to 1963 with the Elmira Pioneers and roomed with him in Elmira in 1963 (Steve's roommate in 1962 was outfielder Ray Youngdahl). However, Pat was a finesse lefty and unfortunately did not make the Majors.

But I suppose I'll give that hint out. In the late 1950's and early 1960's, the Baltimore organization's fastest left-hander was Steve Dalkowski. The fastest right-hander was a source of some debate among the Baltimore farmhands. Generally, it boiled down to five names. Of those names, two (Chuck Estrada and John Miller) have already been named. A third, Arne Thorsland, never made the Majors. That leaves you with two guys that played in the Majors and have not been named. Of course, only one is the right answer.

[VIBaseball]

Is it Wally Bunker?

[Dalkowski110]

Try again. Think a little earlier.

[VIBaseball]

How about Milt Pappas?

[Dalkowski110]

Nope. And Pappas was not one of the guys considered to be the fastest righty in the O's org. However, you do have the era correct in terms of when this fellow started playing pro ball.

[VIBaseball]

I'm guessing that this guy didn't amount to much in the big leagues, in which case I don't believe I've heard of him.

[Dalkowski110]

He didn't do too well in the Majors (brought up after an arm injury) but he did have a baseball card, from which I lifted the image. However, it was not a Topps card.

[Dalkowski110]

Need another hint?

[J W]

I'm going to guess Joe Shipley, formerly of the San Fransisco Giants.

-edit- nevermind; he just looks like Shipley.

[Dalkowski110]

Nope. Not Shipley, though Shipley also threw pretty hard in his prime.

[Dalkowski110]

Give up? Need another hint?

[Dalkowski110]

Nobody? Going once...

[Dalkowski110]

HUGE hint: He first pitched on Opening Day, 1961. Against the first batter he faced, Ted Kluszewski, he surrendered the third homerun in Los Angeles Angels team history.

[MadHatter]

Dick Hall?

[VIBaseball]

The Kluszewski hint dislodged something deep in the recesses of my memory, Dalko. This is the legendary John Papa. Pat Jordan talked about him in A False Spring. Here's a link to the page that talks about the homer to Big Klu:

http://books.google.com/books?id=5sK3fR3BO6IC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=%22John+Papa%22+Orioles&source=bl&ots=mgJ-LPTXha&sig=UgDvkrXnUO6JPJIVUQ_pvf0aOY4&hl=en&ei=Di32SZCfE-CJtgf-143tDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8#PPA30,M1

Jordan made one little goof, though: Papa did get back to the majors for one more game in '62.

Here's an article featuring John's own different recollection, plus some other interesting things:

http://articles.latimes.com/1997/jul/22/sports/sp-14973

[VIBaseball]

Next Oriole:

[VIBaseball]

Looks like it's time for a clue. About 20 years after this guy played for the Orioles, he became better known in another capacity with the club.

[Lucas718]

Johnny Oates?

[VIBaseball]

You got it, Lucas...your turn.

[Lucas718]

I haven't looked through the entire thread so hopefully this guy hasn't been posted before. He's obviously not wearing an Oriole uniform here but he did play for them for a couple of years.

[Lucas718]

No guesses? Here's a better pic of him when he was with the Brooklyn Dodgers.



And a hint:
Clem Labine said, "[He] probably had the best stuff of any pitcher that I've ever seen....But [manager] Charley [Dressen] challenged his guts once in the clubhouse in front of everybody...and he lost confidence entirely."

[VIBaseball]

Is it Billy Loes?

[Dalkowski110]

Erv Palica. Your first photo is of his older brother, though, Ambrose "Bo" Palica. Ambrose never pitched in the Orioles organization.

[Lucas718]

Erv Palica. Your first photo is of his older brother, though, Ambrose "Bo" Palica. Ambrose never pitched in the Orioles organization.

Sorry about that. It was listed as an Erv Palica picture. I didn't think it looked like the same guy in both pics.

Erv Palica is correct. He pitched for the O's in '55 and '56, compiling a 9-22 record. Before he joined the O's he pitched for the Brooklyn Dodgers from '47-'54 and logged 2 innings in the '49 World Series.

[Dalkowski110]

This power pitcher tried resurrecting his career throwing submarine style...



While throwing submarine, he tried out a variety of different pitches. Steve Dalkowski even recalled him trying out a knuckleball from his knees while the two were in Minor League Spring Training one year! Alas, it didn't work. Who is he?

[Dalkowski110]

Hint: this right-handed pitcher's career was largely curtailed by back problems. In his very brief Major League time, he pitched brilliantly.

[VIBaseball]

Submariners...one of my pet topics. Is this Jim Lehew?

[Dalkowski110]

Ding! Ding! Ding!

[VIBaseball]

Next Oriole:

[bandit12]

Next Oriole:

Manny Alexander?

[VIBaseball]

Not Manny. I'll hang on a while before offering a clue.

[Lucas718]

Kinda looks like Eric Davis

[VIBaseball]

But it isn't. I'll wait until this afternoon before offering a clue.

[Lucas718]

Could it be the great Sam Horn?

[VIBaseball]

Not big Sam either, Lucas. I guess I'll give out that clue now anyway.

[Lucas718]

Tony Tarasco

[VIBaseball]

Yes, it's Tony (also known for his infamous joint-smoking episode while with the Mets in 2002 -- his herb sent pitcher Mark Corey into some kind of seizure).

You're up, Lucas.

[Lucas718]

Should be an easy one:

[Dalkowski110]

Glenn Davis

[Lucas718]

Yup. He was acquired him in one of the worst trades ever made.

[Dalkowski110]

Here's another...he had a long career, but very little of it was with the Orioles...

[Dalkowski110]

Hint: he was a left-handed pitcher.

[Theboss808]

Dalkowski, I'm a new member. Love the site and the "Who is it?" feature. Been an O's fan since the 60's. Grew up in SW VA but we got the O's games on local AM radio. Loved Chuck Thompson and when I got to Memorial Stadium the first time in the late 70's, the first thing I did was buy a Nat Bo. From the land of pleasant living. Is the last one Billy Hoeft??

[Dalkowski110]

Nope, not Billy Hoeft. This guy came up with the Orioles.

[Dalkowski110]

This will probably give it away...he pitched in all seven games of a World Series while with another franchise.

[VIBaseball]

OK, then it's Darold Knowles. I remember him as a Senator, but certainly not as an Oriole.

[VIBaseball]

Next Oriole:

[Lucas718]

Chris Richard

[VIBaseball]

Yes...you're up, Lucas.

[Lucas718]

I was surprised to learn this guy was once an Oriole:

[VIBaseball]

The 1964 season was a good one for Harvey Haddix, who retired after 1965.

[Lucas718]

You are correct. Haddix pitched what many believe to be the greatest game ever pitched... and he lost. Haddix took a perfect game into the 13th inning before finally giving up a hit and eventually the game winning run.

[Iron Jaw]

Another Oriole......for a short time........who had greater success in another part of the world.

[Dalkowski110]

Andres Mora?

[ttmman21]

Thats Mora, i have that card

[Dalkowski110]

Who is this?

[Seattle1]

Who is this?



Brooks Robinson?

[Dalkowski110]

Nope. This guy was a right-handed pitcher.

[Seattle1]

Jim Palmer?

[Dalkowski110]

No. Came up earlier.

[Seattle1]

Ok it looks like I better admit I am just guessing at straws. (The picture is not showing up in my browser for some reason.)

[pgsuperfan]

Nope. This guy was a right-handed pitcher.

hoyt wilhelm

[Dalkowski110]

Try again...although he was a relief pitcher...

[Ralph Zig Tyko]

Another Oriole......for a short time........who had greater success in another part of the world.
Is this Davey Johnson?

[Dalkowski110]

It was Andres Mora and that question was answered. Now you're on my picture of an early-mid 1960's righty relief pitcher.

[Ralph Zig Tyko]

it was andres mora and that question was answered. Now you're on my picture of an early-mid 1960's righty relief pitcher.
ooooooops!!

[ryors]

Herm Starrette - pitched for the Orioles in 1963, 64, and 65. Career Record was a whopping 1-1. Actually pitched in 27 games during his career, and finished with a very respectable 2.54 career ERA.

[ryors]

[Dalkowski110]

"Herm Starrette"

You bet!

[Dalkowski110]

By the way, that's Charlie Lau, is it not?

[ryors]

Correct.

It is Charlie Lau. Probably best remembered as the hitting coach for the Kansas City Royals during the late 70's and 80's when he was George Brett's guru.

Nice thread you have going here. Please place the next challenge up.

Sincerely,
ryors

[Dalkowski110]

What's funny is that I didn't instantly recognize the face; what did it was the autograph. He tended to bunch his last name together and you can actually make out the word "Lau" on the card.

Now, let's see if you can get this guy, who was only briefly an Oriole (less than 10 games, although he did have a Topps card depicting him with the Orioles) and who is shown here with the Dodgers...

[ryors]

The photo does not appear available for me..... I would like to take a shot at it, but..... I can't see what I am guessing on. :ughh

[ryors]

Is it Ken Rowe?

[Dalkowski110]

Not Ken Rowe...here, let me post the photo on photobucket...

[Dalkowski110]

Here...

[ryors]

Still no luck.... kind of like Harvey Haddix type luck. :rolleyes:

[Dalkowski110]

Got any extra firewalls or pop-up blockers turned on? They may be blocking photos...

[ryors]

Ahh.... got it this time.... the photo that is.... Thanks for the help on the pop up blocker....

Is this player Carl Warwick?

[Dalkowski110]

It is indeed!

[ryors]

How about this one?

[bbxpert]

Is it Jim Dwyer?

[ryors]

No, it is not Jim Dwyer.

[Ralph Zig Tyko]

How about this one?


Is it Lowenstein?

[ryors]

No it isn't John Lowenstein either...

Time for a hint.

This Oriole was an outfielder, that was born and raised in Michigan.

[bbxpert]

Merv Rettenmund

[ryors]

Not Merv...

Another hint.... This Oriole was part of World Series championship but with another team during the 1960's.

[The Commissioner]

Jim Northrup? :shrug:

[ryors]

It is indeed the "Silver Fox" Jim Northrup.

Jim spent the first ten years of his career with the Detroit Tigers. He was a major contributor to the 1968 World Series champions, hitting two home runs against the Cardinals in the series after hitting 21 homers in the regular season along with driving in 90 runs.

Jim was traded to Montreal in 1974, and was purchased by the Orioles later that year. He played in 85 games with the O's in 1975, hitting a very respectable .273 in 194 at bats.

Atta boy Commissioner...... your turn to post the "Name the Oriole"

[The Commissioner]

How about this former Oriole...?

[bbxpert]

Looks like Dick Williams to me.

[The Commissioner]

Looks like Dick Williams to me.


Great call! I was hoping the pre-moustache photo would throw people off. It's hard to get a fastball by anyone in here!

[ryors]

Maybe you should try a change up.... lol

[ryors]

Which Oriole is next? :think:

[The Commissioner]

How about this one?

[ryors]

excellent one.... a tough one.....

maybe a hint?

[ryors]

Is it George Zuverink who pitched for the Orioles in 1955 through 1959?

[ryors]

[raysnbran]

Doug DeCinces?