Our Brooklyn Dodger History!

[DODGER DEB]

Here is a great piece of OUR BROOKLYN DODGER history. A sporting news page from The Rome (NY) Daily Sentinel of May 23, 1913, just a few weeks after OUR Ebbets Field opened. Note that WE are called the "Sensation of the Baseball World".

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Pictured are: NAP RUCKER, FRANK ALLEN, ZACH WHEAT, BABE DAHLEN, and JAKE DAUBERT

From an eBay listing.

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[brooklyndodger14]

Hello Everyone!

Here is a rare COLOR shot of Ebbets Field that I have in a photo edit program disc called ArcSoft. I have no further information as to who the source was as there are no credits attached, but this is among a collection of photos provided so one may superimpose their face over the pictured to create a "gag" photo of being either player.

Of course, the gentleman applying the tag is none other than Pee Wee Reese. The one calling the unknown Pirate runner "safe" is the great Hall of Fame umpire Bill Klem. The Pirate player, while unknown, provides valuable information as to when the photo was taken.

According to the Mark Okkonnen resource book "Baseball Uniforms of the 20th Century), the script "Pittsburgh" road jersey was worn in that style for the single season of 1947, Jackie Robinson's debut year! The style and Navy Blue trim was to give way the following season to the Black & Gold combo and the graphic lettering style that has eventually become the more familiar Pirates uniform we know in the present.

In other details, you have a great view from the field of the visitors dugout and the catwalks of Ebbets' upper deck (the 3rd base side). This is obviously a "posed" shot as the play is taking place in what appears to be an area between the mound and the plate with the 3rd base line running across the background. Both Reese and the Pirate are smiling while other Pirates practice behind them. (One of them is number 27, Kent Tekulve's ancestor I suppose? LOL).

The original size of the file is HUGE (1100 pixels wide) so I had to reduce it for the maximum load limit to post here. If you would like an e-mail of the original size for yourself, please contact! Enjoy all!

Thanks!
Dennis

[zman]

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Shorty Laurice Brooklyn Dodgers Sym-phony Original Drum

Original Bass Drum from the Brooklyn Dodgers Sym-phony, the colorful group of fans who played for many years in the stands at Ebbets Field, to the absolute delight of all who heard them. Shorty Laurice was one of the founders of the group in the mid-1930’s. According to one tale, a ragtag group of fans arrived at a Dodger’s game with their instruments after plans for a picnic fell through. They weren’t allowed in, so they ditched their instruments briefly, went to the rear of Ebbets Field and hauled up their equipment by rope. Before long, Branch Rickey noted their popularity and humor, and gave them their own row - in Section 8, of course. The Sym-phony was “officially” named by Red Barber in 1939. The band was famous for serenading shell-shocked pitchers with “The Worms Crawl In, The Worms Crawl Out” as they left the field, and for playing “Three Blind MIce” whenever they (frequently) disputed an umpire’s call. This wonderful historic item is sure to be the centerpiece of any collection of Dodger memorabilia. While not playable, since the original drumhead is torn and separated from the clamping ring, the instrument is a joy and wonder to behold. “B’klyn Dodgers / Shorty’s / Bums Band”. Made of wood with steel tensioners and cowhide, the drum measures 24 1/2” in diameter and is 13 1/2” deep. It dates at to least 1948, since Shorty Laurice passed away in that year. Condition is used and unrestored and historic, with tears and separation as mentioned above. An exciting and important piece of Dodgers’ lore. The most historic drum in baseball history!!!


(Photo and text from lelands.com)

[zman]

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Is this the 1941 victory parade?

[zman]

Duke waits on the pitch.

http://www.msnusers.com/gfndkpvo7j6bchb8q4ajip3eu6/Documents/Pictures%2Fdodgers2.jpg
(Sports illustrated.cnn.com)

[zman]

Campy

http://www.msnusers.com/gfndkpvo7j6bchb8q4ajip3eu6/Documents/Pictures%2Fdodgers4.jpg
(sports illustrated.cnn.com)

[zman]

Pitching mostly out of the bullpen, Clem Labine tossed 144 1/3 innings and won 13 games for the world champion Dodgers in 1955.

http://www.msnusers.com/gfndkpvo7j6bchb8q4ajip3eu6/Documents/Pictures%2Fdodgers3.jpg
(sportsillustrated.cnn.com)

[zman]

The Reading Rifle

http://www.msnusers.com/gfndkpvo7j6bchb8q4ajip3eu6/Documents/Pictures%2Fdodgers7.jpg
(sportsillustrated.cnn.com)

[zman]

Umpire Bill Summers calls Pee Wee safe at first after he beats Yankees pitcher Johnny Kucks to the bag.

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[zman]

Campy and Newk

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[zman]

Jackie

http://www.baseballasamerica.org/images/jackie_robinson.jpg
(baseballamerica.org)

[zman]

http://www.msnusers.com/gfndkpvo7j6bchb8q4ajip3eu6/Documents/Pictures%2Fs11.jpg
(ebay)

[Paulmcall]

That looks like MacPhail in the car in that parade. I'd say it has to be the 1941 pennant celebration. They all met at Borough Hall and had a great time with the fans.
I have a photo of the Borough Hall gathering that I got from the Borough President's paperboy. It's in my book Ebbet's Field: Brooklyn's Baseball Shrineby Authorhouse.com
Bob Ogden sent me the original photo with arrows pointing out Durocher and others in the crowd. He is barely visible behind Borough President Cashman.
Bob was kind enough to send the negatives too.

[DODGER DEB]

I believe it to be 1941 also.

It is in a parade along Fulton Street, Downtown Brooklyn, where WE held all OUR parades.

From the sign that someone is holding "Lippy for Mayor", I think that is Leo Durocher in the car with MacPhail. Leo was called "Leo the Lip" in Brooklyn.

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[brooklyndodger14]

In the Sports Illustrated Subway Series feature in October, 2000 is the same picture.


That looks like MacPhail in the car in that parade. I'd say it has to be the 1941 pennant celebration. They all met at Borough Hall and had a great time with the fans.
I have a photo of the Borough Hall gathering that I got from the Borough President's paperboy. It's in my book Ebbet's Field: Brooklyn's Baseball Shrineby Authorhouse.com
Bob Ogden sent me the original photo with arrows pointing out Durocher and others in the crowd. He is barely visible behind Borough President Cashman.
Bob was kind enough to send the negatives too.

[zman]

Thanks very much for explaining the photo everyone. It's a privilege and a great pleasure to read the accounts of eyewitnesses and scholars of that wonderful era on this site. It really is. Thank you all.

[DODGER DEB]

THIS photo speaks for itself!


http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/20035005/Images/bcdodgers.jpg


From an eBay listing.

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[kramer_47]

Is Lonny Frey the oldest living Dodger at 95 years old. If he isn't who is the oldest, are there any others in there 90's.

[DODGER DEB]

April 15, 1947, OUR JACKIE'S first day as a BROOKLYN DODGER....

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SPIDER JORGENSEN, PEE WEE, EDDIE STANKY, JACKIE

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[zman]

This photo was taken during Jackie Robinson's first appearance at Ebbets Field for an exhibition game on April 11th. Coach Ray Blades is seated to the right of Robinson

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(huntsauctions.com)

[zman]

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(sportsillustrated.cnn.com)

"As the players used to say to him all the time: 'Number one on your scorecard and number one in the hearts of Brooklyn.'...Really and truly, he was number one."

(Vin Scully)

[zman]

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(cnnsi.com)

[DODGER DEB]

http://www.cnnsi.com/baseball/mlb/features/galleries/1956/4/4med.jpg
(cnnsi.com)

"THE CAPTAIN" ......OUR CAPTAIN....always and forever!

SIMPLY the BEST of the BEST!!

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[zman]

"THE CAPTAIN" ......OUR CAPTAIN....always and forever!

SIMPLY the BEST of the BEST!!

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When Pee Wee was informed that the up and coming Jackie Robinson was a shortstop, he said of Robinson, and I'm paraphrasing here...If he's good enough to take my job, he's entitled to it." Pee Wee obviously had a highly developed sense of the importance of "fair play." I wonder if any of that attitude was the result of Pee Wee's experiences growing up as a smaller than average kid.



The following is from an article of Jet magazine...

"Carl Erskine, a pitcher on the team, also remembered Reese's role in helping Robinson break the color line in baseball. "Think of the guts that took," he said. "Pee Wee had to go home (to segregated Louisville) and answer to his friends...I told Jackie later that (Reese's gesture) helped my race more than his."

Joe Black, a former Brooklyn pitcher and one of the first Blacks in Major League Baseball, said, "Pee Wee helped make my boyhood dream come true to play in the Majors, the World Series. When Pee Wee reached out to Jackie, all of us in the Negro League smiled and said it was the first time that a White guy had accepted us."

He continued, "When I finally got up to Brooklyn, I went to Pee Wee and said, `Black people love you. When you touched Jackie, you touched all of us.' With Pee Wee, it was No. I on his uniform and No. 1 in our hearts."

[DODGER DEB]

When Pee Wee was informed that the up and coming Jackie Robinson was a shortstop, he said of Robinson, and I'm paraphrasing here...If he's good enough to take my job, he's entitled to it." Pee Wee obviously had a highly developed sense of the importance of "fair play." I wonder if any of that attitude was the result of Pee Wee's experiences growing up as a smaller than average kid.



The following is from an article of Jet magazine...

"Carl Erskine, a pitcher on the team, also remembered Reese's role in helping Robinson break the color line in baseball. "Think of the guts that took," he said. "Pee Wee had to go home (to segregated Louisville) and answer to his friends...I told Jackie later that (Reese's gesture) helped my race more than his."

Joe Black, a former Brooklyn pitcher and one of the first Blacks in Major League Baseball, said, "Pee Wee helped make my boyhood dream come true to play in the Majors, the World Series. When Pee Wee reached out to Jackie, all of us in the Negro League smiled and said it was the first time that a White guy had accepted us."

He continued, "When I finally got up to Brooklyn, I went to Pee Wee and said, `Black people love you. When you touched Jackie, you touched all of us.' With Pee Wee, it was No. I on his uniform and No. 1 in our hearts."

There wasn't a finer human being....on or off the field!

PEE WEE was truly #1!

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[SYLVIA HATTEN]

Hi. Thanks for your note and picture. Doesn't look like Wrigley-but I could be wrong-looks like Forbes Field - was Phil Caveretta ever traded tp Pittsburgh? It definitely is not the 1947 World Series which was played at Yankee Stadium and Ebbets Field. Great to see Joe Hatten and Jackie Robinson in action.

I have read many books about the Brooklyn Dodgers -Boys of Summer, Leo Durocher, and several others including the story of Branch Rickey. I am now reading a history of Ebbets Field. which was built in 1913 by Mr. Ebbets, a co-owner of the Dodgers. The title is something like The Greatest Ballpark. It goes into detail about the Marble Rotunda - I remember as a teenager looking at my tickets and seeing "Enter Marble Rotunda". It seems that the design of the Rotunda caused many problems on opening day as, because the room was round, the several ticket windows and adjoining entry portals caused all the lines to meet in the center - a mini riot apparently broke out.

One time my friend and In went on a Sunday to see a double header{remember them?} with the Cubs. We took the wrong BMT Subway {should have taken the Brighton Local} and ended up in Coney Island. We took the Brightin train back to Prospect Park and walked to the ballpark. Thinking we might not be able to purchase tickets, a man approached us in the Rotunda offering to sell us tickets at face value{remember those days?]. We lucked out-right behind home plate - 2 games against the Cubs and my favorite non-Dodger Andy Pafko.

Don't mean to bore you - many other incidents crop up in my memory. I am interested in Mrs. Hatten's reaction - please let me know. Please feel free to discuss any of this with Mrs. Hatten or your baseball friends.

Bill

[kramer_47]

Here is a Dodgers pennant from the 1950's, I found it on Ebay.

[DODGER DEB]

One of the last, and fortunate, players to wear OUR BROOKLYN DODGER uniform in 1957 was JIM GENTILE....

http://i9.ebayimg.com/01/i/03/b6/73/16_1_b.JPG

From an eBay listing.

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[DODGER DEB]

Here is a great shot, taken in the 1940's, of EDDIE STANKY, LEO DUROCHER and PEE WEE REESE....

http://jimimonet.com/kpics/031006/reese.jpg


From an eBay listing.

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[kramer_47]

Here is a great shot, taken in the 1940's, of EDDIE STANKY, LEO DUROCHER and PEE WEE REESE....

http://jimimonet.com/kpics/031006/reese.jpg


From an eBay listing.

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Look at Peewee's glove, imagine if he had the gloves of today, he was great in !940's and 1950's with that small glove.

[Mattingly]

Hopefully, this isn't inappropriate here. If so, please forgive me. Someone gave me an animated thing which speaks of what Dem Bums' fans said when the refs blew a call on a play:

http://images.animationfactory.com/imagedir/animations/animals/rodents/three_blind_mice/three_blind_mice_lg_nwm.gif

[DODGER DEB]

Some of OUR fellow BROOKLYN DODGER FANS as they await the start of Game One of the 1941 World Series at Yankee Stadium....


http://www.members.aol.com/wmdiebold1/game1wire.jpeg


A wire photo from an eBay listing.

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[DODGER DEB]

Here is a great action shot of PEE WEE and JIM GILLIAM chasing down a fly ball at the Polo Grounds on July 4, 1956...

http://i18.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/78/20/0e_1.JPG

From an eBay listing.

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[tonypug]

Here is a great action shot of PEE WEE and JIM GILLIAM chasing down a fly ball at the Polo Grounds on July 4, 1956...

http://i18.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/78/20/0e_1.JPG

From an eBay listing.

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That is an amazing picture, Pee Wee Reese a short stop going that far out into leftfield.

[zman]

The joys of summer!
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(ebay)

[tonypug]

The joys of summer!
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/mipakaco/xcampanella.jpg
(ebay)
A very rare picture showing Campy cavorting in the outfield as a left handed fielder.

[DODGER DEB]

A very rare picture showing Campy cavorting in the outfield as a left handed fielder.


I'll venture to say that this photo of a left-handed CAMPY was taken the same day as the one of a left-handed SKOONJ that WE discussed earlier.

There must have been a photographer around with both an imagination...and a sense of humor!

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[tonypug]

I'll venture to say that this photo of a left-handed CAMPY was taken the same day as the one of a left-handed SKOONJ that WE discussed earlier.

There must have been a photographer around with both an imagination...and a sense of humor!

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The great thing about the picture, is that it shows a close up of a section of the outfield wall that isn't seen in most photographs.

[DODGER DEB]

The great thing about the picture, is that it shows a close up of a section of the outfield wall that isn't seen in most photographs.

Great observation, tony!

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[DODGER DEB]

At OUR Ebbets Field on May 12, 1954 GIL HODGES' HR broke up the Braves' Lew Burdette's no-hitter and also cost him a shut-out....

http://www.members.aol.com/wmdiebold2/burdette.jpeg

From an ebay listing.

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[zman]

Newcombe racing Campanella before a 1955 World Series game.
http://www.grandstandsports.com/images/6746.jpg
(grandstandsports.com)

[zman]

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(sportsartifacts.com)

[zman]

At OUR Ebbets Field on May 12, 1954 GIL HODGES' HR broke up the Braves' Lew Burdette's no-hitter and also cost him a shut-out....

http://www.members.aol.com/wmdiebold2/burdette.jpeg

From an ebay listing.

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I've always read that Burdette was as mean as a snake on the mound but he must have been a pretty good sport to agree to pose for this, no?

[tonypug]

I've always read that Burdette was as mean as a snake on the mound but he must have been a pretty good sport to agree to pose for this, no?
He still won the game. Had he lost it might have been a different story.

[zman]

He still won the game. Had he lost it might have been a different story.

Ah, I see.

[zman]

Opening Day at Ebbets Field in 1952 with (l-r) Giants Manager Leo Durocher, Dodger Vice President and General Manager Buzzie Bavasi, President Walter O’Malley and Manager Charlie Dressen.

http://www.walteromalley.com/images/biog_ref/02/wfom_openingday_ebbits_b.jpg
(walteromalley.com)

[zman]

The World Champion Brooklyn Dodgers open the 1956 season at Ebbets Field.
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(baseballfever.com)

[bhechinger]

Great team picture. That's granddad Mike Hechinger standing in photo. He was a right-handed catcher who went to the International League Newark Tigers in 1914 and caught against Ruth. In '15 he caught a ball dropped from the top of the Washington Monument! After WWI (1st Lt. Air Corp) he barnstormed in Chicago. Always talked about Ol' Case. What a time!

Here is a great photo of OUR 1913 BROOKLYN DODGERS (Nationals)...

http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/gizmo10101/1913_Brooklyn_Dodgers.jpg

From an eBay listing.

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[DODGER DEB]

Here is a great photo of OUR FLATBUSH FAITHFUL waiting outside OUR Ebbets Field along Sullivan Place. They were waiting to see NL Playoff Game #1 with the NY Giants on October 1, 1951......


http://www.members.aol.com/wmdiebold2/ebbets.jpeg


A wire photo on an eBay listing.

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[zman]

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The photo depicts Johnny Rizzo of the Pittsburgh Pirates sliding into third base. Written in pencil notes on the back of the pieces are the words " Rizzo Pittsburgh takes 3rd on Todd's fly to Rosen in 6th inn." Rizzo and Al Todd played for Pittsburgh and Goody Rosen for the Brooklyn Dodgers simultaneously only in 1938 which helps to date the photo. I cannot identify the Dodgers third baseman but perhaps you can.

(photo and caption ebay)

[zman]

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This is a photo from a game between the Brooklyn Dodgers and Philadelphia Phillies on April 29, 1938. Written in pencil on the reverse is " 4-29-38 Todd (Dodgers) safe at first."


(photo and caption ebay)

[zman]

Photo from the last Dodgers-Giants game at the Polo Grounds.
http://i20.ebayimg.com/04/i/06/b5/7b/a6_1.JPG
(ebay)

[runningshoes]

Double post

[runningshoes]

Probably Cookie Lavagetto.

I can find the box score of that game if you can find the likely dates on baseball almanac.

[zman]

Probably Cookie Lavagetto.

I can find the box score of that game if you can find the likely dates on baseball almanac.

I'd say you're probably right. He played 3rd in 132 games that year and it certainly looks like him to me.

In 1938 the Dodgers played the Pirates at Ebbets Field on May 20 &21, June 21 & 23, July 29, 30 & 31, and a double header on the 22nd of September.

[runningshoes]

I'd say you're probably right. He played 3rd in 132 games that year and it certainly looks like him to me.

In 1938 the Dodgers played the Pirates at Ebbets Field on May 20 &21, June 21 & 23, July 29, 30 & 31, and a double header on the 22nd of September.

It's definately Lavagetto. He played in every game.

Maybe you can pin down the actual game through the coverage and the box scores.

Save these though. I'll remove them after you tell me you have them.


http://www.ajclay.com/BBF_PDF/june%2022.pdf

http://www.ajclay.com/BBF_PDF/june%2024.pdf

http://www.ajclay.com/BBF_PDF/july%2030.pdf

http://www.ajclay.com/BBF_PDF/july%2031.pdf

http://www.ajclay.com/BBF_PDF/august%201.pdf

http://www.ajclay.com/BBF_PDF/sept%2023.pdf

[zman]

Thanks, runningshoes. You have some fantastic stuff there.

[runningshoes]

Thanks, runningshoes. You have some fantastic stuff there.

I recommend that anyone who loves the history of the game should drop 60 bucks on a SABR membership.

You will not be disappointed.

And you're not limited to baseball either.

[kramer_47]

I recommend that anyone who loves the history of the game should drop 60 bucks on a SABR membership.

You will not be disappointed.

And you're not limited to baseball either.

I'm going to join some of the things I've seen are just amazing, you have access to so much stuff.

[DODGER DEB]

Great photo of CARL FURILLO crossing the plate after hitting a HR on September 28, 1955 (Game One of the 1955 World Series at Yankee Stadium). Waiting to greet him was Charlie Di Giovanni, OUR batboy...

http://i14.ebayimg.com/04/i/06/c3/c1/6c_1.JPG

From an eBay listing.

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[DODGER DEB]

Another terrific photo of JACKIE, PEE WEE, CAMPY and DUKE taken during OUR 1955 World Series. I believe this photo was taken after Game 4, on October 2nd at OUR Ebbets Field.....

http://i20.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/c3/1b/7f_1.JPG

From an eBay listing.

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[Brownie31]

Stripes are fairly common on baseball uniforms, such as an obscure team in the Bronx whose name escapes me. However, a truly unique use of stripes in baseball uniforms was that of the 1916 National League champs, none other than the Brooklyn Dodgers. These uniforms had both vertical and horizontal stripes forming squares! Squares on the uniforms of Uncle Robbie, Casey Stengel, Zack Wheat and Company. Magnifique! Brownie31

[DODGER DEB]

Here is a great photo from the early 1940's of some of the stars of OUR DODGERS.....

http://i7.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/cb/28/12_1.JPG


Leo Durocher, Pee Wee Reese, Billy Herman, Dolph Camilli, Lou Riggs and Cookie Lavagetto

From an eBay listing.

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[zman]

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There's lots of photos of this gentleman on ebay right now. I'd sure like to know a little about him. I've got a feeling he was well known to some of you.

[DODGER DEB]

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There's lots of photos of this gentleman on ebay right now. I'd sure like to know a little about him. I've got a feeling he was well known to some of you.

That, zman, is JOHN "SENATOR" GRIFFIN, OUR clubhouse custodian. That was his official title, but in truth, he was everything to everybody. One terrific guy who was a very important part of OUR BROOKLYN DODGER FAMILY. HE was a lot of fun to know.

I also saw those photos, zman. They bring back many, many memories!

Thanks for posting this one.

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[zman]

That, zman, is JOHN "SENATOR" GRIFFIN, OUR clubhouse custodian. That was his official title, but in truth, he was everything to everybody. One terrific guy who was a very important part of OUR BROOKLYN DODGER FAMILY. HE was a lot of fun to know.

I also saw those photos, zman. They bring back many, many memories!

Thanks for posting this one.

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Thanks for filling me in, Deb. he looks like such a colorful character it's only fitting that he was a part of your family. Hilda Chester, the guys in the Sym-Phony, Uncle Robbie...What fun it must have been!

[tonypug]

Thanks for filling me in, Deb. he looks like such a colorful character it's only fitting that he was a part of your family. Hilda Chester, the guys in the Sym-Phony, Uncle Robbie...What fun it must have been!
Senator John Griffin was the man resposible for all the silly hats the team wore in photos. He was also known for dressing up in different costumes and wigs. As Dodger Deb said he was a very important part of the Brooklyn Dodger family. He and Charley "The Brow" made quite a team.

[DODGER DEB]

Here is a very interesting photo. It was taken in 1954 at the Polo Grounds and shows several of OUR DODGERS posing with a few of the NY Giants. For obvious reasons, I can't imagine these players posing together. The only possibility would be that it was at the annual Mayor's Trophy Game benefiting Sandlot Baseball, which may have been held at the Polo Grounds that year.

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RUBE WALKER, JIM GILLIAM, L MCALL, DUKE SNIDER JOHNNY ANTONELLI, WALT ALSTON, WILLIE MAYS, CLEM LABINE, ROY CAMPANELLA

From an eBay listing.

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[zman]

The Mahatma in spring divining the path to yet another pennant.

http://i20.ebayimg.com/04/i/06/c4/ec/39_1.JPG
(ebay)

[Number 4]

[QUOTE=DODGER DEB]Another terrific photo of JACKIE, PEE WEE, CAMPY and DUKE taken during OUR 1955 World Series. I believe this photo was taken after Game 4, on October 2nd at OUR Ebbets Field.....

http://i20.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/c3/1b/7f_1.JPG

From an eBay listing.

You could be correct, DD; however, I bought this same picture off eBay several months ago and searched the internet for some history behind the photo. I found a Snider Family website that showed this picture with with information that suggested the photo was taken after a June 2, 1955 game at Ebbets Field where the Dodgers beat the Milwaukee Braves 13-2. Snider hit three homers while Jackie, Pee Wee and Campy each hit a homer. I'll listen to yours and the other Dodger historians' comments about the photo and change my notes if need be. Thanks for all your memories and information. I'm learning a lot about the Brooklyn Dodgers.

[DODGER DEB]

[QUOTE=DODGER DEB]Another terrific photo of JACKIE, PEE WEE, CAMPY and DUKE taken during OUR 1955 World Series. I believe this photo was taken after Game 4, on October 2nd at OUR Ebbets Field.....

http://i20.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/c3/1b/7f_1.JPG

From an eBay listing.

You could be correct, DD; however, I bought this same picture off eBay several months ago and searched the internet for some history behind the photo. I found a Snider Family website that showed this picture with with information that suggested the photo was taken after a June 2, 1955 game at Ebbets Field where the Dodgers beat the Milwaukee Braves 13-2. Snider hit three homers while Jackie, Pee Wee and Campy each hit a homer. I'll listen to yours and the other Dodger historians' comments about the photo and change my notes if need be. Thanks for all your memories and information. I'm learning a lot about the Brooklyn Dodgers.

Glad you enjoy seeing and reading all about OUR DODGERS, Number4.....that is what WE try to do here!

As for the photo, if you found it on Duke's website, with the June 2, 1955 date, it must be correct. They put alot of effort into their site so I am sure the research must be correct. The reason I suggested the 1955 World Series was because that weekend at OUR Ebbets Field (Games 3, 4 and 5), Duke had quite a hot bat and hit a few HRS. It may not be the same photo, but I do recall seeing a photo similar to this one from that weekend. I may even have it, but I would have to dig it out.

Let's see if anyone else has a take on it.

c.

[zman]

Babe Ruth 1938
http://www.msnusers.com/gfndkpvo7j6bchb8q4ajip3eu6/Documents/Pictures%2FRuth1938.jpg
(wikipedia.com)

[DODGER DEB]

Here is a great photo of some of OUR FLATBUSH FAITHFUL celebrating on October 4, 1955 after WE became THE WORLD CHAMPIONS.....

http://www.members.aol.com/wmdiebold3/happyfans.jpeg

From an eBay listing.

c.

[zman]

Here is a great photo of some of OUR FLATBUSH FAITHFUL celebrating on October 4, 1955 after WE became THE WORLD CHAMPIONS.....

http://www.members.aol.com/wmdiebold3/happyfans.jpeg

From an eBay listing.

c.

Wonderful photo, Deb.

[zman]

http://www.members.aol.com/wmdiebold3/daffy.jpeg
(ebay)

[zman]

http://www.members.aol.com/wmdiebold3/pray2.jpeg
(ebay)

[zman]

That's Dodger Deb on the far left giving the finger, english style, to anybody who says the Dodgers don't stand a chance. Just kidding. It's a 1941 photo of Brooklyn Dodger fans giving the victory sign after losing game 1 of the World Series to the Yankees.
http://www.members.aol.com/wmdiebold3/victory.jpeg
(ebay)

[zman]

Pee Wee Reese leads off in the '49 World Series.
http://artletics.com/images/baseball_vp_49_series_pv.jpg
(artletics.com)

[tonypug]

Pee Wee Reese leads off in the '49 World Series.
http://artletics.com/images/baseball_vp_49_series_pv.jpg
(artletics.com)
It's nice to see the Ballentine Ale and Beer sign, even though it's a little hard to see. Now all you see is Budweiser.

[Grand Daughter]

Elvis 9045 posted a picture of a black gentleman and another gentleman who looks alot like my grandfather. Could someone please if they know name who these two people are for me. Thank you!!1:)

[DODGER DEB]

Elvis 9045 posted a picture of a black gentleman and another gentleman who looks alot like my grandfather. Could someone please if they know name who these two people are for me. Thank you!!1:)


Grand Daughter, could you please tell US which photo you are referring to...is it posted on this thread, and if it is what post # is it? If it is posted on another thread, please identify the thread, along with the post #.

WE might be able to help you, if WE saw the photo.

c.

[zman]

It's nice to see the Ballentine Ale and Beer sign, even though it's a little hard to see. Now all you see is Budweiser.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Today everything seems so homogenized. One town looks pretty much like another with it's McDonald's golden arches and Wal Mart supercenter. Theme parks instead of roadside attractions. No Burma Shave signs. At baseball stadiums, MLB approved mascots as opposed to natural characters like Hilda or the Sym-phony. There's a corporate blandness that's fallen over our modern times. All the individual, eccentric and flavorful elements have been removed from the stew. Sanitized for our protection, I guess.

[zman]

Duke, Jackie and Pee Wee during the 1952 World Series
http://www.msnusers.com/gfndkpvo7j6bchb8q4ajip3eu6/Documents/Pictures%2FDuke%2C%20Jackie%20and%20Pee%20Wee%20at %201952%20World%20Series.jpg
(huntauctions.com)

[zman]

These 2 photos were taken in 1950. The bottom photo shows an unusual play in which both Gil and Jackie slid home but Jackie was called out because the ump ruled that Gil interfered with the catcher. The next day they posed for the top photo.
http://www.msnusers.com/gfndkpvo7j6bchb8q4ajip3eu6/Documents/Pictures%2F1950%20Jackie%20and%20Gil%20sliding%20G il%20called%20out%20for%20interfering%20with%20cat cher.jpg
(huntauctions.com)

[zman]

Johnny Podres
http://www.fantasybaseballchampionship.com/images/steiner_prizes/podres.jpg
(fantasybaseballchampionship.com)

[zman]

Billy Cox
http://www.vintagecardtraders.org/virtual/53bowman_bw/53bowman_bw-60.jpg
(vintagecardtraders.org)

[zman]

Pee Wee, Jackie, Billy and...?
http://www.msnusers.com/gfndkpvo7j6bchb8q4ajip3eu6/Documents/Pictures%2F20BRO.jpg
(davesdugout.com)

[zman]

I love this photo of Billy Cox that Bill Burgess posted elswhere on this site. Billy Cox was Brooks Robinson before there was a Brooks Robinson and yet there are so few photos of him I can find on the web. Sure wish I could have seen him play.
http://www.msnusers.com/gfndkpvo7j6bchb8q4ajip3eu6/Documents/Pictures%2F36cox.jpg
(william_burgess@usa.net)

[strummer]

Rex Barney (who played for the Dodgers in the late forties) was the ballpark announcer in Baltimore, and very well regarded by the fans. In his book, Rex recalls that he always told stories abvout Billy Cox to Brooks Robinson ephasizing how great Billy was and that Brooks could learn stuff from him. After every great defensive play he made, Brooks would come over to Rex and ask if Billy Cox could have made the same play. Rex' answer was always the same. " Yes, Billy would have made that play, but he would have made it look easier."

[zman]

Rex Barney (who played for the Dodgers in the late forties) was the ballpark announcer in Baltimore, and very well regarded by the fans. In his book, Rex recalls that he always told stories abvout Billy Cox to Brooks Robinson ephasizing how great Billy was and that Brooks could learn stuff from him. After every great defensive play he made, Brooks would come over to Rex and ask if Billy Cox could have made the same play. Rex' answer was always the same. " Yes, Billy would have made that play, but he would have made it look easier."

That's a great story, Strummer. I was looking at his hitting stats and in addition to being a magician with a glove it looks like he rose to the occasion in the post season with his bat too. A .302 average in 3 World Series including 7 hits and 6 RBI's in the 1953 Series.

[zman]

"They had such great players as Duke Snider, Roy Campanella, Carl Furillo, Gil Hodges, Peewee Reese. I asked Jackie Robinson if he had a choice which of those players he'd like to see up in the clutch, say in the ninth inning with the bases loaded?

Jackie: Very good question. Very good question. There’s one guy you left out in there that I have to say I’d like to see up there, Billy Cox. I'd like to see Billy Cox up in a situation like that, then I'd think it would be Jim Gilliam. These are the fellows I believe were the same kind of hitters, whether it was 10-0, or 1 to nothing or two outs with the bases loaded. I like to see the guy who could walk up under any situation and do the same kind of thing. If some fellow who could hit 324, 320, when that situation arose, they weren't quite the performers that the other guys were, but day in and day out they would get their base hits and do the kinds of things that make them a standout ballplayer. But a clutch situation, Billy Cox, I'd love to see out there because if Billy is going to base hit, he's going to get it. It didn't make any difference and that's the way I felt about my roommate, Jim Gilliam."

(From an interview with Jackie Robinson by Don Mesibov)

[DODGER DEB]

Nice photo taken on April 30, 1957 of CAMPY, DON ZIMMER and GIL in clubhouse at OUR Ebbets Field....

http://www.members.aol.com/wmdiebold4/campy.jpeg

An AP photo on eBay.

c.

[Shotgun Shuba]

Here is a little talked about Bum

Photo from walteromalley.com

[DODGER DEB]

Here is a little talked about Bum

Photo from walteromalley.com

Ah, yes, DAN BANKHEAD! Nice addition, Shotgun!

I believe DAN came up to BROOKLYN sometime in late summer, 1947.

Does anyone remember how he got into the record books?

c.

[tonypug]

Ah, yes, DAN BANKHEAD! Nice addition, Shotgun!

I believe DAN came up to BROOKLYN sometime in late summer, 1947.

Does anyone remember how he got into the record books?

c.
He was the first black pitcher in the major leagues. His origonal job was to be Jackie Robinsons roommate. His only full season in the majors was in 1950.

[DODGER DEB]

He was the first black pitcher in the major leagues. His origonal job was to be Jackie Robinsons roommate. His only full season in the majors was in 1950.


While all of what you say is true, tony, I was thinking more along the lines that he hit a HR in his first at bat, joining a few who have done it. Add to that, he is the first black pitcher to do it, and, I believe, he still holds that record!

c.

[Shotgun Shuba]

I hope nobody minds if I add another osbcure(to me at least) Dodger.

Photo from walteromalley.com

[DODGER DEB]

I hope nobody minds if I add another osbcure(to me at least) Dodger.

Photo from walteromalley.com


You really are digging up memories, Shotgun!

That would be none other than, #5, Carroll "Wayne" Belardi, OUR backup first baseman in the early 1950's.

c.

[Shotgun Shuba]

Excellent, DD
This is my last weird one, I promise.
Photo from walteromalley.com

[DODGER DEB]

Excellent, DD
This is my last weird one, I promise.
Photo from walteromalley.com


That, Shotgun, is none other than pitcher, CHRIS VAN CUYK, who pitched for OUR team in the early 1950's. You would be interested to know that his brother JOHN VAN CUYK was also a member of OUR team.

None of the players you pictured were "weird". Quite the contrary, all were very nice!

c.

[Shotgun Shuba]

You cannot be stumped DD and I will stop trying. I really like these unheralded players though. The Dodgers really were more than Pee Wee, Campy, Duke, Gil etc.

[DODGER DEB]

You cannot be stumped DD and I will stop trying. I really like these unheralded players though. The Dodgers really were more than Pee Wee, Campy, Duke, Gil etc.

Appreciate that, Shotgun!

You are right, OUR DODGERS were a team, all 25 of them, each and every year....and WE loved everyone of them!

Anyone care to try this one.....

http://i20.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/d7/da/dd_12.JPG

From an eBay listing.

c.

[tonypug]

Appreciate that, Shotgun!

You are right, OUR DODGERS were a team, all 25 of them, each and every year....and WE loved everyone of them!

Anyone care to try this one.....

http://i20.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/d7/da/dd_12.JPG

From an eBay listing.

c.
Would that be Bruce Edwards?

[DODGER DEB]

Would that be Bruce Edwards?

Yes, you are right, that would be Bruce, tony!

A little history.....for those who may not know it.

Bruce Edwards was a catcher on OUR Team in the late 1940's and early 1950's.

Bruce was traded to the Chicago Cubs, along with Gene Hermanski, Joe Hatten and Eddie Miksis in mid-1951 for Rube Walker, Andy Pafko, Johnny Schmitz, and Wayne Terwilliger. It was an outfielder for an outfielder, a catcher for a catcher, a second baseman for a second baseman, and a pitcher for a pitcher deal. In reality, WE were looking to acquire ANDY PAFKO!

c.

[kramer_47]

That, Shotgun, is none other than pitcher, CHRIS VAN CUYK, who pitched for OUR team in the early 1950's. You would be interested to know that his brother JOHN VAN CUYK was also a member of OUR team.

None of the players you pictured were "weird". Quite the contrary, all were very nice!

c.

I just got John's autograph, Chris died years ago, I'm trying to get as many of the living Dodgers as possible.

[DODGER DEB]

I just got John's autograph, Chris died years ago, I'm trying to get as many of the living Dodgers as possible.

Yes, I know, kramer!

Chris was a great guy. He died much too young, as did so many of OUR heros.

John has been making many of the Card Shows for sometime now.

c.

[tonypug]

Yes, you are right, that would be Bruce, tony!

A little history.....for those who may not know it.

Bruce Edwards was a catcher on OUR Team in the late 1940's and early 1950's.

Bruce was traded to the Chicago Cubs, along with Gene Hermanski, Joe Hatten and Eddie Miksis in mid-1951 for Rube Walker, Andy Pafko, Johnny Schmitz, and Wayne Terwilliger. It was an outfielder for an outfielder, a catcher for a catcher, a second baseman for a second baseman, and a pitcher for a pitcher deal. In reality, WE were looking to acquire ANDY PAFKO!

c.
At one point the Dodgers started three catchers, Roy Campanella catching Bruce Edwards at third base and Gil Hodges at First base.

[DODGER DEB]

At one point the Dodgers started three catchers, Roy Campanella catching Bruce Edwards at third base and Gil Hodges at First base.

Thanks for remembering (and posting) that, tony!

Wasn't OUR team amazing considering what WE did with all that talent WE had?

c.

[kramer_47]

Who is this Dodger who went on to a good career in Japan and a good college coaching career.

[DODGER DEB]

Who is this Dodger who went on to a good career in Japan and a good college coaching career.

That looks like GLENN MICKENS!

c.

[DODGER DEB]

How about this one.....

http://www.walteromalley.com/images/hist_rost/photos/phil_haugstad_sm.jpg

He pitched for US in the late 1940's and then again in 1951.

c.

[Shotgun Shuba]

How about this one.....

http://www.walteromalley.com/images/hist_rost/photos/phil_haugstad_sm.jpg

He pitched for US in the late 1940's and then again in 1951.

c.

That is the immortal Phil Haugstad

[DODGER DEB]

That is the immortal Phil Haugstad

Absolutely right. Indeed it is, Shotgun!

c.

[Shotgun Shuba]

Here is one I defy you to get, although to say he was good would be a massive understatement.
Photo from walteromalley.com

[kramer_47]

Here is one I defy you to get, although to say he was good would be a massive understatement.
Photo from walteromalley.com

Tommy Holmes,to bad he wasn't with us that long.

[kramer_47]

That looks like GLENN MICKENS!

c.

You're right Deb, he's retired in Hawaii now I just got his autograph with a nice letter from him.

[kramer_47]

Who is this Dodger from the late 40's.

[SoxSon]

Marv Rackley, kramer_47.

[Shotgun Shuba]

The picture I tried to post was too big, see next post.

[Shotgun Shuba]

This is a picture of the old ballyard and neighborhood I don't remember seeing. It's still good to look at either way.
photo from cyburbia.org

[DODGER DEB]

This is a picture of the old ballyard and neighborhood I don't remember seeing. It's still good to look at either way.
photo from cyburbia.org

What a joy to (still) behold. Thanks for posting it (again), Shotgun!

Even after all these years, my pulse still races every time I see it!

I wish everyone could have experienced what WE did, just once in their lifetime.

c.

[brooklyndodger14]

Even after all these years, my pulse still races every time I see it!

I wish everyone could have experienced what WE did, just once in their lifetime.

c.


Hello everybody!

My name is Dennis and a little bit about myself: I was born 8 months after the Brook's lone Series triumph, and so am one of the many on this board who grew up with only pictures and stories instead of experiences and memories that those that have lived through the time of the Brooklyn Dodgers share so fondly.

I recently purchased on eBay 7 out of the 8 pieces of the calendar series "A Field in Flatbush" by Charles Brereton of Concord, NH. WHAT AN INCREDIBLE COLLECTION of Ebbets photos throughout the years! I am submitting a picture from the set originally from the Brooklyn Public Library picture archives that perfectly illustrates Dodger Deb's quote above: A beautiful shot of a gleeful crowd entering Ebbets for another game, ca. 1950's.

On the other side of the spectrum, my eBay photo research also brought me last fall to a cache of photographs of the tragic Ebbets Field auction that took place on April 23, 1960 (My God! 46 years ago TODAY!!!!). A picture from that event is also posted here.

For any of the Ebbets faithful who might like to respond, could anybody confirm if the 2 pictures are of the same location? Does the "R1" & "R2" indicate these turnstiles are at the Rotunda?

The detective in me shows some similarities to the location: The double doors appear to be one of the 2 sets of double doors that were at the very center of the fabled Rotunda's arc to the grandstands. There is a Dodgers "Next Game" sign in both. The flourescent lights above both entrances appear similar, as well as the corner wall that would possibly be the adjacent ticket booth.

The differences however, appear to be in what can be seen beyond to the street outside. The crowd shot shows a wall in the distance and maybe some building windows on the left.

In the empty shot, you can see the street and barely make out Auction MC Saul Leisner atop a ladder with his microphone sadly (and for very cheaply as compared to now) parting with bits of Ebbets memories. (If any one is interested in having that heartbreaking event's pix posted here, please let me know. I warn you, it is definitely not for the faint to see this Heart of Brooklyn laid waste).

How great it must have been to hop a subway for a nickel or dime to go to Ebbets. l live in the Midwood section and have come to realize that the former D-Train (now the Q) route would have been the only subway to ride past all of New York's ballparks: The Coney Island/Brighton Beach route would take a Brooklynite first to Prospect Park and Ebbets Field, then thru Manhattan to 155th Street & 8th Avenue to the Polo Grounds, and then the very next uptown stop being 161st Street and River Avenue and Yankee Stadium.

Admittedly, I grew up a Yankee fan growing up in Upper Manahattan during the late '60's (the humble years) and even worked as a Stadium vendor from 1971 to 1983 (I still have the uniform and paper hats from the 1960's!) and thus came to know Yankee Stadium well. I even had the plastic model made in 1964. It was only in adulthood and evolving into a Mets and Expos fan that I learned of the long, deep, and precious love affair that the Dodgers fans had with their team in Flatbush and how it all came together every year at McKeever, Sullivan & Bedford Avenues.

Yes, I truly wish I had been there to see it!



Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

[brooklyndodger14]

http://baseball-fever.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=530981



For any of the Ebbets faithful who might like to respond, could anybody confirm if the 2 pictures are of the same location? Does the "R1" & "R2" indicate these turnstiles are at the Rotunda?

The detective in me shows some similarities to the location: The double doors appear to be one of the 2 sets of double doors that were at the very center of the fabled Rotunda's arc to the grandstands. There is a Dodgers "Next Game" sign in both. The flourescent lights above both entrances appear similar, as well as the corner wall that would possibly be the adjacent ticket booth.

The differences however, appear to be in what can be seen beyond to the street outside. The crowd shot shows a wall in the distance and maybe some building windows on the left.

In the empty shot, you can see the street and barely make out Auction MC Saul Leisner atop a ladder with his microphone sadly (and for very cheaply as compared to now) parting with bits of Ebbets memories.


Hello again,

After submitting the pictures in my earlier post, and thinking about today's historical dark event, I couldn't get away from the computer until I found an answer to the comparison of the 2 photos.

After searching for a better shot of what was outside on the Auction day, I can almost positively say that the original 2 shots ARE of the same location! The realization was like seeing before and after pictures of the Titanic: A conflicting sense of triumph and sadness....

Here is my proof:

1). Look at the chipped wall corner where the action photo and "Next Game" sign meet in the crowd shot.. (you might have to look at the original post where the resoultion might be better than this 3-shot attached here). They are the same marks as on the empty shot! 2). Look at the spot in same place above the bottom of sign frame for "Next Game" (just above and slightly right where the 2 flourescent lights meet)... 3). What I had described originally as a wall is of a building across the street with a Bar awning (barely seen behind woman's upraised hand in crowd shot) and much better seen below in the lower right pix of the auction... Same blank wall (though painted completely white in the lower right auction pix (after all, the time of crowd shot is 1950's, and the auction is 1960.. several years later at least).

Unscientific? Perhaps, but its something for all of us to nibble on at least until the esteemed gentleman and member of this Board who has the Rotunda buried will finally unearth it and reveal its former glory! THAT would be a another Second Coming that I would particularly appreciate!

I too, am working on a personal crusade to bring back Ebbets Field to Brooklyn. Wish me luck! An address for the construction will soon be posted as soon as some elements fall into place.

Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

[EbtsFldGuy]

Wow!

Seeing the photos posted by Shotgun (aerial view of EF and neighborhood) and Dennis (the people joyously entering the turnstiles, with the familiar uniforms of the ushers and the addictive Dodgers logo) gave me a shot of pure delight too.

It instantly brought back the ambience that was much of the attraction of EF.

A memory high!

Maybe, just maybe, Heaven will include a trip back to the 1950s 55 Sullivan Place and environs - What an incentive to be good in this life!

THANKS to you both.

[brooklyndodger14]

"http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7601&stc=1&d=1145849714


Thank you Ebbts Guy for your kind words.

This photograph is was made by Terry Hefferman for the 1991 National Baseball Hall of Fame calendar.

I took the liberty of slightly enhancing the color in order to bring out the "Dodgers" script which was very dark in the original, thus the red tone seen here is actually a dull brick tone.

Enjoy one and all!

Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

[Shotgun Shuba]

Wow!

Seeing the photos posted by Shotgun (aerial view of EF and neighborhood) and Dennis (the people joyously entering the turnstiles, with the familiar uniforms of the ushers and the addictive Dodgers logo) gave me a shot of pure delight too.

It instantly brought back the ambience that was much of the attraction of EF.

A memory high!

Maybe, just maybe, Heaven will include a trip back to the 1950s 55 Sullivan Place and environs - What an incentive to be good in this life!

THANKS to you both.

You are very welcome, I love to search for them. I have fixed it so you can see more of the picture. It's not as sharp but it looks more like I intended. Maybe you will recognize some of old Brooklyn.

[Shotgun Shuba]

Rather than start a new thread, I will pose my question here. This is the yearbook from 1954. I think that O'Malley was very off base by having the yearbook for the whole year represent his plea for a new ballpark. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw stumbled on this. I understand that he was actively looking for a new ballpark, but for a championship caliber team to have a "gee, our present ballpark stinks" theme for the season is bizarre. I know you all hate his guts but do you remember any uproar over this? Am I overreacting? It's also an ominous omen.

Photo from walteromalley.com

[Brownie31]

Rather than start a new thread, I will pose my question here. This is the yearbook from 1954. I think that O'Malley was very off base by having the yearbook for the whole year represent his plea for a new ballpark. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw stumbled on this. I understand that he was actively looking for a new ballpark, but for a championship caliber team to have a "gee, our present ballpark stinks" theme for the season is bizarre. I know you all hate his guts but do you remember any uproar over this? Am I overreacting? It's also an ominous omen.

Photo from walteromalley.com

Shotgun Shuba:

The "New Home" looks more like a medical clinic than a
baseball stadium. Bizarre fits, but so does garish.

Anyway, in the words of that noted philosopher, Mr. Danny Kaye,
"Oh, Really? No, O'Malley!".

Brownie31

[DODGER DEB]

Here is a nice piece of OUR history. An Official Scorecard for the 1890 BROOKLYN BASEBALL CLUB, who played at WASHINGTON PARK and were then known as the BRIDEGROOMS. 1890 was also the first year WE were part of the National League.

http://www.bccg10.com/store390.JPG

From an eBay listing.

c.

[DODGER DEB]

Here is a nice current photo of DUKE SNIDER taken on May 10, 2006 at the LA/Houston game....

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=10&photoId=1144529

Duke will celebrate his 80th birthday, come September 19th.

c.

[Bklyn Boy since 1936]

Here is a nice current photo of DUKE SNIDER taken on May 10, 2006 at the LA/Houston game....

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=10&photoId=1144529

Duke will celebrate his 80th birthday, come September 19th.

c.
Thanks DD for that great photo of "The Duke".

He doesn't look 10 years older than me:D Maybe because he's keeping in shape and I'm ... well, let's just forget it. :(

[Shotgun Shuba]

Thanks DD for that great photo of "The Duke".

He doesn't look 10 years older than me:D Maybe because he's keeping in shape and I'm ... well, let's just forget it. :(

He does look good. It's funny, I would think he was the centerpiece star of the Dodgers of the era as were Mantle and Mays respectively of their teams. What is interesting though is that I don't think he was ever the fan's favorite. I think Pee Wee and Jackie probably were. Maybe eyewitnesses can set me straight.

[DODGER DEB]

He does look good. It's funny, I would think he was the centerpiece star of the Dodgers of the era as were Mantle and Mays respectively of their teams. What is interesting though is that I don't think he was ever the fan's favorite. I think Pee Wee and Jackie probably were. Maybe eyewitnesses can set me straight.

You have that almost right, Shotgun.

Duke was really his own worst enemy. As long as Duke was hitting, all was fine. When he caught a slump, and was booed, even if WE won, he would sulk...and sometimes shoot his mouth off to the press, saying real dumb things. Brooklyn fans always liked him and what he did for us, but he never made it easy. I will say, once he started hitting again, and the boos disappeared, it was a love affair like you never saw. No doubt, WE never would have won anything without him.

But, you are right, Shotgun, Pee Wee and Jackie were always at the top of the list when it came to Brooklyn fans. Even the players agreed on that. No contest! :clapping

c.

[Shotgun Shuba]

I think this was called the "Home Plate Bar" at Ebbets Field. Maybe it looks familiar

Photo from loc.gov

[Shotgun Shuba]

This is some sort of eating place at Ebbets Field. Maybe this also looks familiar to regulars.

Photo from loc.gov

[tonypug]

Rather than start a new thread, I will pose my question here. This is the yearbook from 1954. I think that O'Malley was very off base by having the yearbook for the whole year represent his plea for a new ballpark. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw stumbled on this. I understand that he was actively looking for a new ballpark, but for a championship caliber team to have a "gee, our present ballpark stinks" theme for the season is bizarre. I know you all hate his guts but do you remember any uproar over this? Am I overreacting? It's also an ominous omen.

Photo from walteromalley.com
O'Malley started his quest for a new ballpark even before he took over as majority owner in late 1950. It galled him that Yankee Stadium had so many more seats. More seats meant more money, and money was what drove O'Malley.

[DODGER DEB]

Another great photo of OUR BROOKLYN DODGERS. This one taken during Spring Training in 1948.......

http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/20/92/ec_12.JPG

CAL ABRAMS, DON LUND, MARVIN RACKLEY, DICK WHITMAN, DUKE SNIDER

An AP photo from eBay.

c.

[musial6]

Mantle, Shmantle! We've got Abie! Remember that headline?

[DODGER DEB]

Rare photo of OUR 1912 BROOKLYN DODGERS.....

From an eBay listing.

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[DODGER DEB]

Catch this real nice photo at OUR Ebbets Field of SKOONJ (Carl Furillo) with former Dodger DIXIE WALKER, now a coach with the St. Louis Cardinals....

http://i10.ebayimg.com/02/i/07/3a/11/b8_1.JPG

From an eBay listing.

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[musial6]

Remember the letter "The Peepul's Cherce" wrote in early '47, requesting a trade so that he wouldn't have to play with Jackie?

[DODGER DEB]

A nice photo taken during the 1947 World Series of CARL FURILLO and DIXIE WALKER as they watch Yogi Berra's pinch-hit homer fly over the wall. It was the first WS pinch-hit homer. It was given up by Ralph Branca.

http://i19.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/35/b7/49_1.JPG

Wire photo listed on eBay.

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[tonypug]

A nice photo taken during the 1947 World Series of CARL FURILLO and DIXIE WALKER as they watch Yogi Berra's pinch-hit homer fly over the wall. It was the first WS pinch-hit homer. It was given up by Ralph Branca.

http://i19.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/35/b7/49_1.JPG

Wire photo listed on eBay.

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Nice photo. Ralph Brancas name seems to accompany a lot of historic home runs.

[DODGER DEB]

Here is a photo from that day in 1950 when GIL HODGES hit FOUR HOME RUNS and WE beat the Boston Braves 19-3, at OUR Ebbets Field....

http://i5.ebayimg.com/02/i/07/3d/26/a2_1.JPG

A wire photo listed on eBay.

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[Yankeebiscuitfan]

I have never seen this one before: Johnny Hudson and Babe Ruth as a coach.

[tonypug]

I have never seen this one before: Johnny Hudson and Babe Ruth as a coach.
That is a picture I haven't seen before. Another interesting thing is, Johnny Hudson's glove.A lot different then what they are using today.

[DODGER DEB]

Here is a nice, very rare, photo of RED BARBER, CONNIE DESMOND and a young VIN SCULLY.....

http://i11.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/41/8e/38_1.JPG

From an eBay listing.

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[Ebbetsfan]

A not quite apros pos note because I didn't see any thread that this bit of trivia would apply to but it is interesting to note the fact that it shows the dominance of NY baseball in the World Series from 1949 thru game 3 in 1957. In all those years, no team other than any of the NY teams won a world series game. In the two series of 1950 and 1954 when other teams were playing, they were swept by the yankees and the giants. (notice the lower case letters). In all the other series during those years, they were played by NY teams. In the third game of the '57 series, the Milwaukee Braves finally broke the string against the yankees.

[Shotgun Shuba]

Ahh! But that is a very important, and recurring theme here. Is Brooklyn New York City? Is all Brooklyn Dodger history unique, as all Detroit Tiger history is unique? Were Brooklyn and Ny rival cities?

[DODGER DEB]

Ahh! But that is a very important, and recurring theme here. Is Brooklyn New York City? Is all Brooklyn Dodger history unique, as all Detroit Tiger history is unique? Were Brooklyn and Ny rival cities?


In my mind, Shotgun, and I would say in the minds of most BROOKLYN FANS, WE were a city unto ourselves. What happened in the late 1890's to make BROOKLYN a part of NYC should never have happened. BROOKLYN was always a unique city, and certainly didn't need the other four boroughs for support. Rather, I think it was the other way around...they needed US!

IF BROOKLYN had it's own mayor and city council in 1957, OUR DODGERS would still be where they were born, and still belong....at home in BROOKLYN! :gt

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[DODGER DEB]

Here is a nice photo of CAMPY, SKOONJ, and GIL taken during Spring Training at Vero Beach in 1952......

http://i24.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/5c/6c/e1_12.JPG

From an eBay listing.

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[Shotgun Shuba]

Boy, Campy was CHUNKY!! He must have bought his uniform in the "husky" section.

[Number 4]

Boy, Campy was CHUNKY!! He must have bought his uniform in the "husky" section.
All the better for blocking home plate.

[DODGER DEB]

All the better for blocking home plate.

Nothing wrong with that, Number 4!

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[Number 4]

Nothing wrong with that, Number 4!

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Oh, I certainly agree!! Campy always played tough and hard.

[DODGER DEB]

Here's a real RARE piece of OUR history. A Scorecard from the 1889 Season at Washington Park, while WE played Louisville.

http://www.members.aol.com/jerryfore/89dog4.jpg

http://www.members.aol.com/jerryfore/89dog5.jpg

Does anyone remember ADAMS Chewing Gum?

From an eBay listing.

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[Brownie31]

In my mind, Shotgun, and I would say in the minds of most BROOKLYN FANS, WE were a city unto ourselves. What happened in the late 1890's to make BROOKLYN a part of NYC should never have happened. BROOKLYN was always a unique city, and certainly didn't need the other four boroughs for support. Rather, I think it was the other way around...they needed US!

IF BROOKLYN had it's own mayor and city council in 1957, OUR DODGERS would still be where they were born, and still belong....at home in BROOKLYN! :gt

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Seccession? A few years ago, a border town in Vermont voted
to seccede and join New Hampshire. Parts of Los Angeles (sorry
to bring that place up!) have spoken of seccession.

A free and independent Brooklyn!

Brownie31

[DODGER DEB]

Here is a great photo taken after OUR WIN of WS Game # 4 of the 1955 World Series on October 1, 1955 at OUR Ebbets Field. These are the heros of that game DUKE SNIDER, ROY CAMPANELLA, GIL HODGES and CLEM LABINE...

http://hyeeauctions.com/AUCTION32/PHOTO2/DODGERS25.jpg

From an eBay listing.

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[DODGER DEB]

Great shot of five of OUR 1942 BROOKLYN DODGER HEROS.....

http://hyeeauctions.com/AUCTION32/PHOTO2/DODGERS4.jpg

Charley Gilbert, Arky Vaughan, Johnny Rizzo, Don Padgett, Cliff Dapper


From an International Wire Photo.

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[DODGER DEB]

Here is a rare beauty of a photo of WILBERT (Uncle Robby) ROBERTSON, Manager of OUR BROOKLYN ROBINS, and TRIS SPEAKER, Manager of the Cleveland Indians. This photo was taken at the start of the 1920 World Series.

http://hyeeauctions.com/AUCTION32/PHOTO1/16.jpg

From an eBay listing.

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[DODGER DEB]

Here is a great photo of the celebration after OUR DODGERS won the 1952 NL Pennant...

http://pg1955.homestead.com/3.JPG

How many in the photo can you name?

From an eBay listing.

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[JeffB]

I am starting this NEW THREAD to cover OUR ENTIRE BROOKLYN DODGER HISTORY in PHOTOS, NEWS STORIES and ARTICLES of INTEREST. I invite ALL members to enjoy it, and contribute to it.

PLEASE REMEMBER, TO COMPLY WITH BBF RULES, EVERYONE WILL NEED TO PROVIDE THE SOURCE OF THEIR POSTED MATERIAL!


THIS PHOTO, the cover of OUR 1956 Yearbook, needs no explanation...


http://i21.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/d4/d9/e6_1_b.JPG


It is from an eBay listing.

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I admire the job you're doing, as well as the passion you and others on this site have shown for your Brooklyn Dodgers. It is amazing; the memories you have kept alive for 49 years!

[DODGER DEB]

I admire the job you're doing, as well as the passion you and others on this site have shown for your Brooklyn Dodgers. It is amazing; the memories you have kept alive for 49 years!

Thank you for your kind words, JeffB. Welcome to OUR little corner of BBF, where WE are one of the top forums, despite not having an active team for more than 49 years.

True BROOKYLN DODGER fans have many and wonderful memories of OUR Team, and OUR time in BROOKLYN. Personally, I have made it part of my life's work....to KEEP the MEMORIES of OUR TREASURED TEAM ALIVE, so that current and future baseball fans will know how VERY SPECIAL OUR Team was, and how much THEY contributed to Baseball and NYC history.

Again, welcome...and do join US, anytime!

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[JeffB]

Thank you for your kind words, JeffB. Welcome to OUR little corner of BBF, where WE are one of the top forums, despite not having an active team for more than 49 years.

True BROOKYLN DODGER fans have many and wonderful memories of OUR Team, and OUR time in BROOKLYN. Personally, I have made it part of my life's work....to KEEP the MEMORIES of OUR TREASURED TEAM ALIVE, so that current and future baseball fans will know how VERY SPECIAL OUR Team was, and how much THEY contributed to Baseball and NYC history.

Again, welcome...and do join US, anytime!

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Thanks for the greeting. It's fun to be here.

Just wanted to let you, and the other devoted fans of the Brooklyn Dodgers know that the Ottawa Lynx baseball club (International League farm team of the Baltimore Orioles) are honouring Jackie Robinson on Sunday in commemoration of the 60th anniversary of Robinson's first season in professional baseball.

They will be retiring Robinson's no. 42 on the outfield wall of Lynx stadium prior to their game against the Norfolk Tides, the Triple A affiliate of the New York Mets.

Robinson, of course, played his minor league baseball in Canada, with the old Montreal Royals in 1946, leading them to the IL pennant and championship that year.

[JeffB]

Thanks for the greeting. It's fun to be here.

Just wanted to let you, and the other devoted fans of the Brooklyn Dodgers know that the Ottawa Lynx baseball club (International League farm team of the Baltimore Orioles) are honouring Jackie Robinson on Sunday in commemoration of the 60th anniversary of Robinson's first season in professional baseball.

They will be retiring Robinson's no. 42 on the outfield wall of Lynx stadium prior to their game against the Norfolk Tides, the Triple A affiliate of the New York Mets.

Robinson, of course, played his minor league baseball in Canada, with the old Montreal Royals in 1946, leading them to the IL pennant and championship that year.

Dodger Deb:

(I'll actually post that as a new thread, so it will be easier for everyone to see).

Jeff

[Shotgun Shuba]

Who is this man?

photo from walteromallley.com

[DODGER DEB]

Who is this man?

photo from walteromallley.com

He looks like pitcher, PETE WOJEY!

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[Shotgun Shuba]

CORRECT!
Pete was 1-1 for the '54 squad. He had 1 save in 28 innings of work that year.
Why did I bring him up?
I just like to see some new faces sometimes and I love obscure ballplayers.
DD, you know them all from that era, even a man who pitched a grand total of 33 big league innings. Impressive!!!!

[DODGER DEB]

CORRECT!
Pete was 1-1 for the '54 squad. He had 1 save in 28 innings of work that year.
Why did I bring him up?
I just like to see some new faces sometimes and I love obscure ballplayers.
DD, you know them all from that era, even a man who pitched a grand total of 33 big league innings. Impressive!!!!

Thanks, Shotgun

When it comes to OUR Dodgers, I almost never forget a face. In Pete's case, and I don't know why, but to me he had a face to remember. Also, his real last name is a long one, something like Wojykowski, and he was the first person I knew (don't forget this was 1954) that shortened his name.

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[Hamp Coleman]

I recently read a message from someone called Tim who had purchased a
cuban autographed baseball from the cuban winter leagues

Tim wanted to be sure Hamp coleman was the individual signature on the ball

I AM THE "HAMP COLEMAN" who's signature is on the ball

to Tim #19.......so your assumption is correct

[Elvis]

Can anyone name this Brooklyn Dodger?

Source: baseballlibrary.com

[Brownie31]

The year 1916 the place Ebbets Field: Uncle Wilbert Robinson
and pitcher Rube Marquand are ready for action in their unique
checked uniforms. (Rucker Archives Photo)

Brownie31

[E.Banks#14]

Sandy Koufax in December of 1954 before his rookie season.
16320

(Lelands.com)

[E.Banks#14]

Emmett Kelly and Roy Campanella before as Dodgers finish their last game at Ebbets Field on Sept. 24, 1957.
16321

(Lelands.com)

[E.Banks#14]

Ralph Branca and Jim Hearn on Oct. 1, 1951.
16322

(Lelands.com)

[Number 4]

Sandy Koufax in December of 1954 before his rookie season.
16320

(Lelands.com)
This question came up before somewhere else (with no for certain answer): Does anyone have an idea what the D on Koufax's hat represents?

[Shotgun Shuba]

Ralph Branca and Jim Hearn before the Bobby Thomson game.
16322

(Lelands.com)


That can't be from the 3rd game of the playoff. Which Thomson game do you mean?

[Number 4]

That can't be from the 3rd game of the playoff. Which Thomson game do you mean?
I'm sure it must be before the first game of the play-offs on Oct 1st when Branca started for the Dodgers and Hearn started for the Giants. Thomson hit a homer of Branca in that game too.

[E.Banks#14]

I'm sure it must be before the first game of the play-offs on Oct 1st when Branca started for the Dodgers and Hearn started for the Giants. Thomson hit a homer of Branca in that game too.
My mistake, it is before the first game of the series. The auction listing (http://lelands.com/bid.aspx?lot=1434&auctionid=611)misidentified it, but the caption on the uncropped photo dates it as you have.

[55 chmps]

http://http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i21.ebayimg.com/05/i/07/b0/0b/01_12.JPG&imgrefurl=http://cgi.ebay.com/1955-Brooklyn-Dodgers-Yearbook-NO-RES_W0QQitemZ230007666249QQcmdZViewItem&h=500&w=396&sz=44&hl=en&start=255&tbnid=TbcIrSEJFahyuM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=103&prev=/images%3Fq%3DBrooklyn%2BDodgers%26start%3D252%26nd sp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

[opieo]

Does anyone out there in Brooklyn Dodger land know if "The Brow" had a uniform number? Or, if not, if anything was on the back of his uniform?

thanks

opieo

[tonypug]

Does anyone out there in Brooklyn Dodger land know if "The Brow" had a uniform number? Or, if not, if anything was on the back of his uniform?

thanks

opieo
Charlie D usually wore a plain white tee shirt, baseball pants and a Brooklyn cap.

[Number 4]

Charlie D usually wore a plain white tee shirt, baseball pants and a Brooklyn cap.
I have several game photos of the Dodgers where he is wearing a Dodger uniform, to include a jersey. The jersey has the script Dodgers on the front, but no number on the front or back and no name on the back. I've also seen photos of him with just a white tee shirt, but they were taken in the clubhouse, probably after a game.

[Bklyn Boy since 1936]

I have several game photos of the Dodgers where he is wearing a Dodger uniform, to include a jersey. The jersey has the script Dodgers on the front, but no number on the front or back and no name on the back. I've also seen photos of him with just a white tee shirt, but they were taken in the clubhouse, probably after a game.
This is correct ... Charlie "The Brow" wore a complete DODGERS uniform on the field as did all major league batboys. The only one that I can recall that had a number on the back was The Cincinnati Reds and that was the number 88.

[opieo]

Well.....I graciously brow to your collective expertise on Charlie D trivia.

So here comes question number two....

What was the count on Elston Howard when Podres got the last out in the 1955 World Series. The Chicago Films version shows him foul off one pitch and then ground out for the final out...but was 0 and 1 the count?

There is a payoff to all this...

and thank you again for your help.

opie

[Number 4]

Well.....I graciously brow to your collective expertise on Charlie D trivia.

So here comes question number two....

What was the count on Elston Howard when Podres got the last out in the 1955 World Series. The Chicago Films version shows him foul off one pitch and then ground out for the final out...but was 0 and 1 the count?

There is a payoff to all this...

and thank you again for your help.

opie
Golenbock, in his book, BUMS, quotes Podres (page 404) as this:

"Elston Howard came up . I tried to finish him and the game off with a strikeout, and I threw him five or six fastballs--good, hard, riding fastballs--but he kept fouling them off. Campy called for another fastball, but I shook him off....I threw a change up and Howard hit an easy ground ball down to a grinning Pee Wee at short..."

So the count might have been 0 and 2. And, of course, Podres, years later, could have remembered the at-bat differently than it really was.

[Brownie31]

Tuesday, April 16, 1918 The Polo Grounds New York: Wilbert "Uncle Robbie" Robinson and Jake Daubert are shown in the visitor's dugout on Opening Day 1918. The Robins opened with a 6-4 loss to the hated Giants in route to a 57-69 fifth place finish. This being World War I, note the American flags on the uniforms.

Brownie31

[Lprof]

How PROUDLY she will always stand....OUR EBBETS FIELD....in glorious black & white.


http://images.auctionworks.com/hi/56/55554/ebbetsfield001.jpg


From an eBay listing.

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I am wondering what people think of the renderings of the new Mets fields. Exactly how much like the old park is it going to be? When I go to it in 2009, will I be disappointed, or will I break down crying?

[Lprof]

I am starting this NEW THREAD to cover OUR ENTIRE BROOKLYN DODGER HISTORY in PHOTOS, NEWS STORIES and ARTICLES of INTEREST. I invite ALL members to enjoy it, and contribute to it.

PLEASE REMEMBER, TO COMPLY WITH BBF RULES, EVERYONE WILL NEED TO PROVIDE THE SOURCE OF THEIR POSTED MATERIAL!


THIS PHOTO, the cover of OUR 1956 Yearbook, needs no explanation...


http://i21.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/d4/d9/e6_1_b.JPG


It is from an eBay listing.

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I recently found a photo my father took from the first base box seats at the first game I ever attended at the age of 5, in 1951. It was the Dodgers vs the Giants, Newcombe against Monte Kennedy. The Dodgers won, but I don't recall the final score. Anyway, the picture shows Robinson on first, being held on by Whitey Lockman, with Jake Pitler as the first base coach. To say that I am not technologically gifted would be an understatement, but I will ask someone who knows more about these things if I can scan it in. By the way, it is shocking to me how virtually empty the left field bleachers are in the picture--especially for a Doger-Giant game.

[Brownie31]

Roy Campanella graces the cover of Time Magazine for August 8, 1955.

Brownie31

[Williamsburg2599]

I am wondering what people think of the renderings of the new Mets fields. Exactly how much like the old park is it going to be? When I go to it in 2009, will I be disappointed, or will I break down crying?
Here are two artist's renditions of the front of Citi Field.:
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21497

[Brownie31]

Brooklyn Dodger Zach Wheat is shown in 1911 just prior to a game with the Cubs at West Side Park in Chicago. (Chicago Daily News)

Brownie31

[JJ's neice]

Thanks for all of the wonderful information and photos that you have all shared. My Great Uncle, Jimmy Jordan played for the Dodgers from 1933-1936 and viewing this thread has put me in touch with a lost part of my family history. JJ died on my father's 9th birthday, and while he remembers his uncle fondly the memories are fuzzy to say the least. I would love to find some old photos and/or memorabilia from this era to share with my dad, my husband (an avid fan who claims one of the reasons he married me for my "major leage blood") and for my daughters. Can anyone recommend any books that may be useful? I know ebay is a hot spot for memorabilia. Any others?

I feel that I would be able to recognize him as he looks just like his brother (my grandfather) in the few old family photos that I have seen.

Thanks for your help and for collecting and preserving all of this information for all of us who were not even around then...

[arrj]

This may not be the right thread to jump on but since it's about the history of the Brooklyn Dodgers, I thought I'd try. Would anyone know of a way to find out about past draft picks for the Brooklyn Dodgers? My father, who passed away many years ago, used to have a contract indicating that he had been picked, back in the early 1930's when he graduated from high school, to play for the Dodgers. I was told, however, that he never played because my grandmother wouldn't let him (bad decision!). I don't know the specific year and no evidence of this contract exists at this time. I would love to be able to track this part of my family history. If you can provide any help or further links I would greatly appreciate it. Many thanks!!

[DODGER DEB]

This may not be the right thread to jump on but since it's about the history of the Brooklyn Dodgers, I thought I'd try. Would anyone know of a way to find out about past draft picks for the Brooklyn Dodgers? My father, who passed away many years ago, used to have a contract indicating that he had been picked, back in the early 1930's when he graduated from high school, to play for the Dodgers. I was told, however, that he never played because my grandmother wouldn't let him (bad decision!). I don't know the specific year and no evidence of this contract exists at this time. I would love to be able to track this part of my family history. If you can provide any help or further links I would greatly appreciate it. Many thanks!!

To start, could you share his name with US?

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[Dazzy]

This may not be the right thread to jump on but since it's about the history of the Brooklyn Dodgers, I thought I'd try. Would anyone know of a way to find out about past draft picks for the Brooklyn Dodgers? My father, who passed away many years ago, used to have a contract indicating that he had been picked, back in the early 1930's when he graduated from high school, to play for the Dodgers. I was told, however, that he never played because my grandmother wouldn't let him (bad decision!). I don't know the specific year and no evidence of this contract exists at this time. I would love to be able to track this part of my family history. If you can provide any help or further links I would greatly appreciate it. Many thanks!!

AsDodger Deb said, aname woud be helpful. It is also important to remember that in those days players were not drafted. Any team could sign any player. Scouts would go allover the country looking for players, in some cases they would offer a contract, in most cases if they liked what they saw they would invite the player to a tryout camp. Teams would also have open tryouts, where a player could show up and tryout on a particular date. If a player was unde age and a team wanted to sign him, his parent/guardian would have to sign for him. In some cases teams would give prospects a facsimile contract as a present. It was not a real contract. In those days literally thousands of players would try out for a team. Usually only a couple were actually signed to contracts. I hope this helps.

[D6+]

The following is from newyorkology. com. It looks like a patch. Regardless , it would be a priceless edition to any Brooklyn Dodgers collection:

http://www.newyorkology.com/archives/images/dodgers.jpg

[DODGER DEB]

The following is from newyorkology. com. It looks like a patch. Regardless , it would be a priceless edition to any Brooklyn Dodgers collection:

http://www.newyorkology.com/archives/images/dodgers.jpg


That was not a patch, D6+. It was part of the Program and material that The Brooklyn Historical Society came up with in 2005, when they opened their Exhibit and presented OUR refurburished 1955 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP FLAG, which had been returned to BROOKLYN....for keeps!

I remember it because, in its original form, I was one of several people who were asked for an opinion on whether I liked the SQUARE, ROUND or, I believe, there was also a TRIANGLE.

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[D6+]

That was not a patch, D6+. It was part of the Program and material that The Brooklyn Historical Society came up with in 2005, when they opened their Exhibit and presented OUR refurburished 1955 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP FLAG, which had been returned to BROOKLYN....for keeps!

I remember it because, in its original form, I was one of several people who were asked for an opinion on whether I liked the SQUARE, ROUND or, I believe, there was also a TRIANGLE.

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DODGER DEB, thanks for the info. As someone with a marketing background, I'm of the opinion that the exhibit symbol that was chosen was an excellent choice. It got my attention right away when seeing the photo on the internet, yesterday.

After reading what you mentioned, I went to the Brooklyn Historical Society website. They have a section about exhibits in recent years, which of course mentioned the Dodgers 1955 World Championship Exhibit.

The question that comes to mind is where is the Dodgers 1955 World Championship Flag currently located? It's something I definitely want to see in person.

[DODGER DEB]

DODGER DEB, thanks for the info. As someone with a marketing background, I'm of the opinion that the exhibit symbol that was chosen was an excellent choice. It got my attention right away when seeing the photo on the internet, yesterday.

After reading what you mentioned, I went to the Brooklyn Historical Society website. They have a section about exhibits in recent years, which of course mentioned the Dodgers 1955 World Championship Exhibit.

The question that comes to mind is where is the Dodgers 1955 World Championship Flag currently located? It's something I definitely want to see in person.


OUR 1955 World Championship Flag is still at The Brooklyn Historical Society...and it will stay there. Standing in front of it is quite impressive and very emotional, especially for those of US who were there, on October 4, 1955, when WE won it! :gt

You can visit the Historical Society on the days that it is open (check website). I believe there is a small charge to walk through it. It is a beauitful building, which was completly re-furbished a few years ago.

BTW, D6+, I thought the symbol was a good choice, too.

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[D6+]

OUR 1955 World Championship Flag is still at The Brooklyn Historical Society...and it will stay there. Standing in front of it is quite impressive and very emotional, especially for those of US who were there, on October 4, 1955, when WE won it! :gt

You can visit the Historical Society on the days that it is open (check website). I believe there is a small charge to walk through it. It is a beauitful building, which was completly re-furbished a few years ago.

BTW, D6+, I thought the symbol was good choice, too.

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DODGER DEB, thanks for the additional info. Along with planning to see the 1947-1957 Dodgers, Giants, and Yankees exhibit at the City of NY Museum in the near future, I'm looking forward to going to the Brooklyn Historical Society. From what I read on their website, they have some walking tours of some Brooklyn Neighborhoods and sites.


I can't even imagine the meaning for you and other long time passionate Brooklyn Dodgers fans who had the opportunity to be right next to the 1955 Dodgers World Championship flag. Especially after so many seasons of the Dodgers coming close but falling short in their quest to win the World Series. Nothing can ever change what the 1955 Dodgers accomplished, including time.

[DODGER DEB]

DODGER DEB, thanks for the additional info. Along with planning to see the 1947-1957 Dodgers, Giants, and Yankees exhibit at the City of NY Museum in the near future, I'm looking forward to going to the Brooklyn Historical Society. From what I read on their website, they have some walking tours of some Brooklyn Neighborhoods and sites.


I can't even imagine the meaning for you and other long time passionate Brooklyn Dodgers fans who had the opportunity to be right next to the 1955 Dodgers World Championship flag. Especially after so many seasons of the Dodgers coming close but falling short in their quest to win the World Series. Nothing can ever change what the 1955 Dodgers accomplished, including time.

It was WONDERFUL to see OUR Flag back where it belongs. It will never leave US again!

In the area closely surrounding The Historical Society is quite a bit of BROOKLYN DODGER history. It is located on Pierrepont Street, on the corner of Clinton. Walking down Clinton, the next street is Montague, which holds more of OUR history. OUR Dodger Front Office was located at 215 Montague Street. That building is no longer there ( it was replaced by a bank several years ago), but there is a plaque on the wall which reminds everyone of what once stood there. If you go down Montague (towards the water), there is the Bossert Hotel at 98 Montague, a place where most of OUR players, at one time or another, stayed while playing at home in BROOKLYN. WE also held OUR GRAND CELEBRATION party there on the night of October 4, 1955. As a matter of fact, if you look down towards the water from the bank, try to imagine thousands of people squeezed into the street and with the overflow for several streets around, north and south, east and west of the Bossert, then you will get an idea of what that entire glorious night was like in Downtown Brooklyn. :homeplate:

The tours that the Historical Society give are quite good. I just thought I'd throw in a little of what you can expect to see.

Have fun, D6+!

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[Dazzy]

DodgerDeb, thank you for the greeting, when I joined the group. For those that don't know, could you trace the long and tough journey, the 1955 World Championship flag went through? I know at one point it was close to being destroyed. Also, any update on the current whereabouts of the Ebbets Field flagpole? Thats another interesting and frustrating story. Thank you.

[D6+]

It was WONDERFUL to see OUR Flag back where it belongs. It will never leave US again!

In the area closely surrounding The Historical Society is quite a bit of BROOKLYN DODGER history. It is located on Pierrepont Street, on the corner of Clinton. Walking down Clinton, the next street is Montague, which holds more of OUR history. OUR Dodger Front Office was located at 215 Montague Street. That building is no longer there ( it was replaced by a bank several years ago), but there is a plaque on the wall which reminds everyone of what once stood there. If you go down Montague (towards the water), there is the Bossert Hotel at 98 Montague, a place where most of OUR players, at one time or another, stayed while playing at home in BROOKLYN. WE also held OUR GRAND CELEBRATION party there on the night of October 4, 1955. As a matter of fact, if you look down towards the water from the bank, try to imagine thousands of people squeezed into the street and with the overflow for several streets around, north and south, east and west of the Bossert, then you will get an idea of what that entire glorious night was like in Downtown Brooklyn. :homeplate:

The tours that the Historical Society give are quite good. I just thought I'd throw in a little of what you can expect to see.

Have fun, D6+!

c.


DODGER DEB, great suggestions. Thanks.


When the Dodgers won the 1955, in addition to the Grand Celebration party you mentioned ( I only wish I can go back in time to experience that evening ), was there a Parade for the Dodgers in Brooklyn in the follow days?

[DODGER DEB]

When the Dodgers won the 1955, in addition to the Grand Celebration party you mentioned ( I only wish I can go back in time to experience that evening ), was there a Parade for the Dodgers in Brooklyn in the follow days?

Yes there was a BROOKLYN DODGER RALLY/PARADE that following Friday, October 7th.

The Parade went through various parts of Downtown Brooklyn. They used convertible cars, each of which held a few of OUR players. Some of the players got out and walked in the streets. It wound up on the steps of Boro Hall with (what seemed liked) thousands of BROOKLYN DODGER FANS packed in the streets cheering OUR Team. It was a wonderful, wonderful day! :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Little did WE know, then, that that incredible day and time would have to last a lifetime!

c.

[DODGER DEB]

DodgerDeb, thank you for the greeting, when I joined the group. For those that don't know, could you trace the long and tough journey, the 1955 World Championship flag went through? I know at one point it was close to being destroyed. Also, any update on the current whereabouts of the Ebbets Field flagpole? Thats another interesting and frustrating story. Thank you.

Dazzy, I haven't forgotten you. I am trying to put together some info, and photos that will not only answer your questions, but ones that you will enjoy. I am just a little short on time right now.

OUR 1955 World Championship Flag had a long journey back to BROOKLYN, where it never should have left to begin with. To be continued....

OUR Centerfield Flagpole is still in BROOKLYN. After being given to a VFW Post by the Kratter Company, they planted it in front of their building on Utica Avenue. That building was sold in the 1970's to the Carnarsie Casket Company who, in turn, sold the building a few yeas ago to a church. OUR Flagpole is still there. To be continued....

c.

[DODGER DEB]

Dave Anderson of the NY Times, tells the entire wild and long "travel story" of OUR 1955 World Championship Flagbetter than I ever could.....

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=287292&postcount=1

This was posted by Mattingly, after the pre-opening Reception at The Brooklyn Historical Society in April 2005.

You might also be interested in reading my post after I attended the Reception at The Brooklyn Historical Society on April 21, 2005, which was fabulous!

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=288406&postcount=436

Enjoy them!

c.

[DODGER DEB]

Here is a post of mine in 2005, with a photo, regarding the whereabouts of OUR Centerfield Flag Pole and its travels, along with what WE were attempting to do to "get it back" and have it placed in a prominent place in BROOKLYN. Unfortunately the $50,000 asking price, once they realized what they had, rendered that "mission impossible".

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=519719&postcount=15

Enjoy it!

c.

[D6+]

Yes there was a BROOKLYN DODGER RALLY/PARADE that following Friday, October 7th.

The Parade went through various parts of Downtown Brooklyn. They used convertible cars, each of which held a few of OUR players. Some of the players got out and walked in the streets. It wound up on the steps of Boro Hall with (what seemed liked) thousands of BROOKLYN DODGER FANS packed in the streets cheering OUR Team. It was a wonderful, wonderful day! :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Little did WE know, then, that that incredible day and time would have to last a lifetime!

c.


DODGER DEB, thanks for the additional info. The Dodger Rally/ Parade must have meant the world not only to the passionate fans of the Dodgers like yourself but to the Dodgers players.


Yesterday ( Sunday ), I visited the different sites that you suggested. First, I went to the site that the Brooklyn Dodgers Offices on 215 Montague Street stood. The plaque on the Commerce Bank branch building that highlighted the impact of Jackie Robinson, is excellent. Surprisingly, the bank was open on Sunday. I went into the building, looking for anything that depicted the history of the Dodgers. There's a painting in the Commerce Bank building of a Dodgers World Series game against the Yankees. It highlights the Dodgers in the field, the Outfield wall, including the scoreboard, advertisements on the wall, the outfield stands, and the fence that separated Ebbets Field from the street. My guess is it was a painting of a 1955 World Series game, as they had an automobile ad for a 1956 car. I sat down and looked at the painting for at least 10 minutes.


Next, I walked to the Bossert Hotel. The outside and inside ( I was only in the front desk/ lobby area ) of the hotel is impressive to say the least. I asked someone at the desk if they had any written info about the history of the Bossert Hotel but he mentioned that didn't have any. There was absolutely nothing that indicated the Dodgers history associated with the Bossert Hotel. To say the least this was disappointing. My gut feeling is that at most, 1 out of 1000 people who worked at the hotel or walked by the hotel during a given day, had any knowledge of Dodgers players staying at the hotel and/ or the Hotel being the place of the 1955 World Champion Grand Celebration.


Next, I walked towards the East River, then walking a few blocks on the Brooklyn Heights Promenade. The view of the Brooklyn Bridge, Lower Manhattan, the Statue of Liberty, and other surroundings is spectacular. I certainly thought about the night of the Grand Celebration that you described. The " Patty Duke Show " came to mind as well when walking on the Promenade. Also, the upcoming 4th of July fireworks along the East River came to mind.


I then walked to the Brooklyn Historical Society. The walk was very enjoyable. Brooklyn Heights certainly has plenty to offer. While at the Brooklyn Historical Society, I learned plenty about Brooklyn that I wasn't aware of. The exhibits were interesting. The biggest disappointment of the day though is the 1955 Dodgers World Champion Banner wasn't on display. I asked someone behind the desk at the admission area. He wasn't aware of the whereabouts of the Banner. I'm sure this is something you will want to look into. Hopefully, the Banner is on loan at the City of New York 1947-1957 Baseball Exhibit. If not, the only two possibilities that come to mind is the Banner is either at the Baseball HOF in Cooperstown or in the Brooklyn Historical Society building in an area that is not part of the displays. Either of these possibilities aren't acceptable.

Though the Brooklyn Historical Society is a great place to learn about much of Brooklyn's History, there wasn't one current display on the history of the Dodgers. Not even about Jackie Robinson! It's imperative that this changes ASAP. In the visit book at the BHS, I offered my thoughts about this after offering compliments about the many positives of the BHS. Hopefully, someone who's a decision maker at the BHS will read what I wrote.

[DODGER DEB]

DODGER DEB, thanks for the additional info. The Dodger Rally/ Parade must have meant the world not only to the passionate fans of the Dodgers like yourself but to the Dodgers players.


Yesterday ( Sunday ), I visited the different sites that you suggested. First, I went to the site that the Brooklyn Dodgers Offices on 215 Montague Street stood. The plaque on the Commerce Bank branch building that highlighted the impact of Jackie Robinson, is excellent. Surprisingly, the bank was open on Sunday. I went into the building, looking for anything that depicted the history of the Dodgers. There's a painting in the Commerce Bank building of a Dodgers World Series game against the Yankees. It highlights the Dodgers in the field, the Outfield wall, including the scoreboard, advertisements on the wall, the outfield stands, and the fence that separated Ebbets Field from the street. My guess is it was a painting of a 1955 World Series game, as they had an automobile ad for a 1956 car. I sat down and looked at the painting for at least 10 minutes.


Next, I walked to the Bossert Hotel. The outside and inside ( I was only in the front desk/ lobby area ) of the hotel is impressive to say the least. I asked someone at the desk if they had any written info about the history of the Bossert Hotel but he mentioned that didn't have any. There was absolutely nothing that indicated the Dodgers history associated with the Bossert Hotel. To say the least this was disappointing. My gut feeling is that at most, 1 out of 1000 people who worked at the hotel or walked by the hotel during a given day, had any knowledge of Dodgers players staying at the hotel and/ or the Hotel being the place of the 1955 World Champion Grand Celebration.


Next, I walked towards the East River, then walking a few blocks on the Brooklyn Heights Promenade. The view of the Brooklyn Bridge, Lower Manhattan, the Statue of Liberty, and other surroundings is spectacular. I certainly thought about the night of the Grand Celebration that you described. The " Patty Duke Show " came to mind as well when walking on the Promenade. Also, the upcoming 4th of July fireworks along the East River came to mind.


I then walked to the Brooklyn Historical Society. The walk was very enjoyable. Brooklyn Heights certainly has plenty to offer. While at the Brooklyn Historical Society, I learned plenty about Brooklyn that I wasn't aware of. The exhibits were interesting. The biggest disappointment of the day though is the 1955 Dodgers World Champion Banner wasn't on display. I asked someone behind the desk at the admission area. He wasn't aware of the whereabouts of the Banner. I'm sure this is something you will want to look into. Hopefully, the Banner is on loan at the City of New York 1947-1957 Baseball Exhibit. If not, the only two possibilities that come to mind is the Banner is either at the Baseball HOF in Cooperstown or in the Brooklyn Historical Society building in an area that is not part of the displays. Either of these possibilities aren't acceptable.

Though the Brooklyn Historical Society is a great place to learn about much of Brooklyn's History, there wasn't one current display on the history of the Dodgers. Not even about Jackie Robinson! It's imperative that this changes ASAP. In the visit book at the BHS, I offered my thoughts about this after offering compliments about the many positives of the BHS. Hopefully, someone who's a decision maker at the BHS will read what I wrote.

I am glad you enjoyed your walk through "Old BROOKLYN", D6+. Sadly, many encounter the same things you did...that few, if any, remember OUR DODGERS, in these places that mean so much to OUR history.

Thank you for alerting me to the fact that OUR 1955 World Championship Flag is no longer on display at The Brooklyn Historical Society. I haven't been there since 2005, and wasn't aware that it was taken down, loaned out, etc. I certainly will make a few calls in an attempt to find out just where it is.

One of the places I neglected to mention is the Brooklyn Marriott Hotel on Adams Street. As you walk in, go up the escalator, then at the top turn left towards their Restaurant. Outside the Restaurant is a display of many of OUR BROOKLYN memories, including several original seats from OUR Ebbets Field. This is so much fun! I just love sitting in them and allowing my mind to "take me back" to that wonderful time and place, when all was right in OUR world.

c.

[callingit]

Thank you for alerting me to the fact that OUR 1955 World Championship Flag is no longer on display at The Brooklyn Historical Society. I haven't been there since 2005, and wasn't aware that it was taken down, loaned out, etc. I certainly will make a few calls in an attempt to find out just where it is.


Don't go crazy, Dodger Deb. The '55 championship banner is on display at the MCNY Glory Days exhibit-- I took a picture last week if you need proof.

[DODGER DEB]

Don't go crazy, Dodger Deb. The '55 championship banner is on display at the MCNY Glory Days exhibit-- I took a picture last week if you need proof.

Mystery solved! Thanks for the info, callingit.

c.

[D6+]

I am glad you enjoyed your walk through "Old BROOKLYN", D6+. Sadly, many encounter the same things you did...that few, if any, remember OUR DODGERS, in these places that mean so much to OUR history.

Thank you for alerting me to the fact that OUR 1955 World Championship Flag is no longer on display at The Brooklyn Historical Society. I haven't been there since 2005, and wasn't aware that it was taken down, loaned out, etc. I certainly will make a few calls in an attempt to find out just where it is.

One of the places I neglected to mention is the Brooklyn Marriott Hotel on Adams Street. As you walk in, go up the escalator, then at the top turn left towards their Restaurant. Outside the Restaurant is a display of many of OUR BROOKLYN memories, including several original seats from OUR Ebbets Field. This is so much fun! I just love sitting in them and allowing my mind to "take me back" to that wonderful time and place, when all was right in OUR world.

c.


DODGER DEB, thanks to you and callingit for your efforts in finding out where the Dodgers 1955 World Champion Banner is. Hopefully, the Banner will return to Brooklyn in the early part of 2008 and be on display at the BHS at all times the BHS is open.


Brooklyn Marriott Hotel is definitely a place I plan on visiting in the foreseeable future. As someone who never experienced being in Ebbets Field, I look forward to at least being able to sit in one of the seats from Ebbets Field. I'll try to imagine the voices of Red Barber, Connie Desmond, and Ernie Harwell broadcasting a Dodgers victory.


After my visit to Brooklyn this past Sunday, I walked over the Brooklyn Bridge into Lower Manhattan. It was the first time I walked in Lower Manhattan since the horrific tragedies of 9-11-01. To say the least it was an emotional day for me. While walking on nearby Broadway, I noticed that on the sidewalks, they had events and famous visits to New York listed. This went on for blocks along Broadway. A thought that comes to mind is this is something that Brooklyn should seriously considering doing near Borough Hall. This would be an additional way to help keep alive the memories of the Dodgers and so much of Brooklyn's history in general.


Another idea that comes to mind, that I hope happens in the next 5 to 10 years at the latest, is a Brooklyn Sports Hall of Fame being built in Barclays Arena or in the surrounding Atlantic Yards Area. This would be in addition to the Baseball Museum at Keyspan Park. Because Atlantic Yards is going to bring in a multitude of people, this would be a way to help further promote the history of the Brooklyn Dodgers and everyone who helped shape Brooklyn Sports.

[mgal]

hi ---can anyone tell me what the signifcance of the year 1939 sewn on the back of my brooklyn dodger cap means ?thanks --

[adamp831]

I saw that your dad was Lefty Joe. Well, this is weird, but you are a cousin of mine. My Grandma and Grandpa are Caroline and Elroy Hatten from Minnesota. I was just interested in Joe and watching an HBO thing on the Dodgers and then got online saw your post and figured I'd write. I really don't know a whole bunch about Joe, but do have some autographed balls and cards from him. I'd love to talk my email is adamp831@hotmail.com. Thanks.










I just found this website...very cool...and this thread is especially interesting.

http://www.b-j.com/092105/0921013.JPG

Two guys to the left of Jackie Robinson (Jackie's left, your right) is my dad, (Lefty) Joe Hatten, Pitcher.

My wife and I are just now trying to collect images of the '46-'51 Dodgers, especially those with my dad's picture in them. If you have some photos from that time frame and would be willing to make some copies (we'll pay!) please contact us at hattend@starband.net

Thanks
Don and Sylvia Hatten
Redding, California

[SYLVIA HATTEN]

I saw that your dad was Lefty Joe. Well, this is weird, but you are a cousin of mine. My Grandma and Grandpa are Caroline and Elroy Hatten from Minnesota. I was just interested in Joe and watching an HBO thing on the Dodgers and then got online saw your post and figured I'd write. I really don't know a whole bunch about Joe, but do have some autographed balls and cards from him. I'd love to talk my email is adamp831@hotmail.com. Thanks.

Hi Adam. We left you a private message. Thanks. S & D

[D6+]

The '55 championship banner is on display at the MCNY Glory Days exhibit-- I took a picture last week if you need proof.


I finally saw the authentic Brooklyn Dodgers 1955 World Championship Banner this even, as I visited the MCNY Glory Days exhibit before the discussion with Roger Kahn, Dave Anderson, and Bob Wolff. Though I was glad to see the Dodgers 1955 World Championsip Banner, I was disappointed that it was folded up in a glass case. The way the Brooklyn Baseball Gallery presents the duplicate of the Banner ( spread out ) is much more appropriate.


One thing I wasn't aware of until seeing the MCNY Glory Days exhibit was that only one banner was used for the Brooklyn Dodgers 4 National League Championships in the 1950's. Another example of Walter O' Malley's love for money. The last digit of the banner was changed 3 times, including it's current 1956 state. This was mentioned with the display of the 1956 NL Championship Banner at the Museum. It's very noticeable though when looking at the banner. Thankfully though, this banner is also now in New York instead of in Los Angeles.

[penncentralpete]

dear MGAL: the dodgers cap was changed to that style in 1939. pete

[penncentralpete]

robinson with the mckeever bros.

[DODGER DEB]

robinson with the mckeever bros.

Pete, that fellow on the left is CHARLES EBBETS! I don't know who Robinson is.

c.

[penncentralpete]

Pete, that fellow on the left is CHARLES EBBETS! I don't know who Robinson is.

c.

uncle wilbert........no?

[LeoD]

Pete, that fellow on the left is CHARLES EBBETS! I don't know who Robinson is.

c.

Wilbert Robinson, Brooklyn Robins Mgr. 1914-31

[metfan13]

Wilbert Robinson, Brooklyn Robins Mgr. 1914-31

Nice uni style there.

And people complain about how uniforms are worn now?

[DODGER DEB]

Wilbert Robinson, Brooklyn Robins Mgr. 1914-31

Of course! Thanks, LeoD.

Just didn't recognize him out of uniform!

c.

[LeoD]

Nice uni style there.

And people complain about how uniforms are worn now?

I think its one of the worst of all time.

[LeoD]

Of course! Thanks, LeoD.

Just didn't recognize him out of uniform!

c.

Your welcome, he looks like a slob, in a uniform also.

[penncentralpete]

I think its one of the worst of all time.

i would have to disagree. take a look at these babies.........

[Shotgun Shuba]

Today is the great Spider Jorgensen's birthday. Here is a picture of the starting infield on Jackie's historic first day. That's Spider on the left. You know the rest.

photo from baseballhalloffame.org

[LeoD]

i would have to disagree. take a look at these babies.........

one of the worst of all time .........[/QUOTE]

[penncentralpete]

hi all: this being a brooklyn dodger history thread, i thought perhaps this would interest old dodger fans. danny mcdevitt (final ebbets field game winning pitcher) retired in 1962. danny lived in mississippi after retirement at some point. mcdevitt's next door neighbor was the convicted killer (in 1993) of civil rights' activist medgar evers.

[callingit]

I finally saw the authentic Brooklyn Dodgers 1955 World Championship Banner this even, as I visited the MCNY Glory Days exhibit before the discussion with Roger Kahn, Dave Anderson, and Bob Wolff

D6, sorry i missed you that night! Had I known you were there I would've introduced myself. I spent a lot of time chatting with Bob Wolff after the presentation.



If you're going to either presentation on 12/6 or 12/11 let me know and I'll make a point of meeting up with you, if you'd like.

[penncentralpete]

Carl Furillo

[DODGER DEB]

Carl Furillo

That photo was in September 1953, after Leo got through with Skoonj, at a battle royal at the Polo Grounds, where all h--l broke loose. Despite Leo's best efforts, Skoonj did, infact, wind up winning the NL Batting Title with a .344 BA.

c.

[penncentralpete]

Charley Neal

[penncentralpete]

simply the finest........

[penncentralpete]

Brooklyn litho

[penncentralpete]

Vero Beach, Florida

[penncentralpete]

stamp album page:

[penncentralpete]

Schaefer Beer Dodgers

[penncentralpete]

the Dook of Flatbush:

[penncentralpete]

talking with MICKEY:

[DODGER DEB]

talking with MICKEY:


With all due respect, pete, that pinstriper is Roger Maris that PEE WEE and DUKE are chatting with.

c.

[penncentralpete]

With all due respect, pete, that pinstriper is Roger Maris that PEE WEE and DUKE are chatting with.

c.

with all due respect in return, deb, roger became a pinstriper in 1960.

[DODGER DEB]

with all due respect in return, deb, roger became a pinstriper in 1960.

You're right pete! But, that really does not look like Mickey. It was obviously at OUR Ebbets Field and probably during a World Series.

c.

[shotten1947]

That picture is in fact Mickey Mantle. Mantle was never photographed from a side profile like this, and doesn't look the same.

[penncentralpete]

three Brooklyn Dodgers:

[penncentralpete]

the Duke's mistake:

[penncentralpete]

the Duke connects!

[penncentralpete]

recognize anyone Deb?

[penncentralpete]

Gil Hodges: