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Bill Burgess
04-23-2005, 10:02 AM
As the creator of this thread, I RESERVE the RIGHT to delete, move, consolidate all posts which are not in the best interests of this thread. No opinions will be changed in any way.---Bill Burgess

Guest Book. I hope all sign in.

As all here well know, Fever is my favorite addiction. You guys are my passion. We share the National Pastime, battle each other royally, and have a general blast.

Recently, I had a "painless, silent" heart attack, but thanks to dear friends, I was rushed to the hospital in time. On Feb. 10-11, 2005, the good docs at Santa Clara Valley Medical Center, pulled me back from the brink. I'm fine again. Good doctoring did the trick, and I'm symptom-free, just lack some old zip. Hope my lack of aggression doesn't show.

But my recent thoughts of my mortality, made me wonder who you guys are, that have been arguin' with me this past year. You spanked me good, put me firmly in my place, and that took good BB smarts.

I'll go first. I'd like to know first names, year of birth, what you guys do for work, how you came by your BB passion, and did you play as a kid? How far did you get, and did you play ball recreationally post-school?

William Burgess; 5'7; 140 lbs.
Born: 1951, Brooklyn, NY. Lived on Putnam Ave., Brooklyn with our Nanny until 1953. Dad was in Korea, trying to not get himself killed.
1953-56: Lived in base housing, Sheridanville, Fort Dix, NJ.
1956-69: Lived in Mt. Holly, NJ.
1969-79: Lived in NYC. Lived Woodside (Queens), Riverdale (Bronx), Inwood (Manhattan), West 73 St., near Columbus Ave.
1979-present: Palo Alto/Menlo Park, CA area, 30 miles south of San Francisco, CA

Nationality: Mom's side (1/2 Italian, 1/4 Spanish, Madrid, 1/4 French); Dad's side (English, Irish, Scotch)

Education: Catholic grade school (Sacred Heart School on High Street, Mt. Holly, NJ), public HS (Rancocas Valley Reg. HS, Jacksonville Rd., Mt. Holly, NJ);

Manhattan College, Riverdale, Bronx, NY, 1969-70. Dropped out and never regretted it for a minute. Ran track there, trained on my own, ran a 4:43 mile in only race I ran. Coaches there were Fred Dwyer/Frank Gagliano, both world-class.

I came by my BB passion from Dad. He wanted to be a pitcher, and was good, but his mom (Grandma) wouldn't let him. So he hoped I'd be a ballplayer, but I wasn't near good, big, fast, strong enough. I played grade-school ball from 4th-7th grade, in CYO (Catholic Youth Organization), and was on my HS freshman team. Wanted to pitch but they sat me on the bench. Of course, as a grade schooler, we played BB in the neighborhood every day. Couldn't stay away from it. I was also in a slow-pitch softball league, around 1979, co-ed. Loved it. It was based on company employees.

From 1966-'70, was a runner, set HS records in track/x-country. Went to NJ state meet as HS junior. Ran 4:34/10:17 in mile/2 miles double.

Work: 1969-79 - NYC post office (GPO - 33-34 St. & 8th Ave.;
1970-77, trained to be a professional dancer, worked NYC night-club, Trude Heller's as professional rock dancer. Rock Dance Super Freak.
1979-89, Palo Alto, CA cab driver
1985- 2004 - self-employed window washer
1998-present - self-employed adult care-giver

Along the way, I also did sales. Sold health supplements to pedestrians on the street in NYC (1977), Filter Queen vacuums (door to door in Joliet, IL, 1989), nutritional supplements, dental plans by phone (NYC, 1998), term life insurance (A. L. Williams - Mt. Holly, NJ, 1989). Also worked for temp employment agencies as a clerk in offices, shipping and receiving clerk, driving gigs, and a lot of crap jobs - just for a desperation paycheck.

Most everything I've ever tried, I've done extremely well, except for sales. Not braggin'. Just obsess on stuff till I get it right.

Favorite ballplayers: Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Buck Ewing, Rube Waddell, Walter Johnson, George Sisler, Eddie Collins, Joe Jackson, Babe Ruth, Sandy Koufax, Nolan Ryan, Oscar Charleston, John 'Pop' Lloyd, Biz Mackey.

Favorite movies: Star War series, Somewhere In Time (1980), 7th Voyage of Sinbad (1958), Dune (1984), Forbidden Planet (1956), 8 1/2 (1963), Fargo (1996), 7 Beauties (1976), Blue Velvet (1986), Silence of the Lambs trilogy, Lord of the Rings trilogy (2001-2003), The Exorcist (1973), Gone With The Wind (1939), Wizard of Oz (1939), Hard Candy (2005), American Psycho (2000), No Country For Old Men (2007), Mr. Brooks (2007), anything concerning the Trojan War, many well-done love stories, most Ivory-Merchant movies.

Favorite Rock Acts: Beatles, Beach Boys, 4 Seasons, Temptations, Miracles, Brian Wilson, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, The Band, Staple Singers, Van Morrison, Carol King, Phil Spector, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Paul Simon, Sam Cooke, Smokey Robinson.

Favorite Rock CD's: Abbey Road (1969, Beatles); Rubber Soul (1965, Beatles); Pet Sounds (1966, Beach Boys); Smile (2004, Brian Wilson); Sticky Fingers (1971, Rolling Stones); Exile on Main Street (1972, Rolling Stones); Bridge Over Troubled Waters (1970, Simon & Garfunkle); There Goes Rhymin' Simon (1973, Paul Simon); Tapestry (1971, Carol King); The Fairy Ring (1982, Mike Rowland, New Age pianist); (own 10 versions of HAIR, 1968 London version of Hair is the best, IMHO).

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: Temptations (1994, Emperors of Soul); Miracles (1994, 35 Anniversary Collection); 4 Seasons (1988, 25th Anniversary Collection); Beach Boys (1993, Good Vibrations: Thirty Years of the Beach Boys); Hank Williams, Sr. (1990, The Original Singles Collection); Supremes (1986, Anthology); The Band (1994, Across the Great Divide); Eagles (1994, Very Best Of Eagles); Bob Dylan (1985, Biograph); Aretha Franklin (1992, Queen of Soul); Simon & Garfunkel (1990, Collected Works); Elton John (2002, Greatest Hits, 1970-2002); Paul Simon (1993, 1964-1993); Bob Marley (1999, Songs of Freedom); Joan Baez (1993, Rare, Live, & Classic); The Very Best of The Dixie Cups (1998, Chapel of Love); Fleetwood Mac (1988, Greatest Hits); George McCrae (1994, The Best of George McCrae - Rock Your Baby); Chicago (2002, The Very Best of Chicago - Only The Beginning).

Favorite Rock Geniuses: Brian Wilson (Beach Boys/soloist); Paul McCartney (Beatles/Wings); John Lennon (Beatles/soloist); Bob Dylan; Smokey Robinson (Miracles, soloist); Norman Whitfield (Temptations); Phil Spector (Righteous Bros., Crystals, Ronettes); Bob Gaudio (4 Seasons); Holland-Dozier-Holland team (4 Tops/Supremes/Martha & the Vandellas/Motown groups); Jagger/Richards team (Rolling Stones); Bob Marley (The Wailers); Ray Davies (Kinks); Paul Simon; Elton John; Sam Cooke; Robbie Robertson (The Band); John Fogerty (Creedence Clearwater Revival); Van Morrison.

Favorite Rock Voices: Paul McCartney, Smokey Robinson, Eric Burdon (The Animals), David Ruffin (Temptations, soloist), Eddie Kendricks (Temptations, soloist), Chuck Jackson, Jackie Wilson, Little Richard, Frankie Vallie (4 Seasons), Aretha Franklin, Carol King, Joan Baez, Judy Collins, Sam Cooke, Roy Orbison, Jerry Butler, Lou Rawls, Brook Benton, Van Morrison.

Favorite Rock Guitarists: George Harrison (Beatles, 1962-70); Keith Richards (Rolling Stones, 1962-present); Ronnie Wood (Rod Steward/Rolling Stones, 1975-present); Eric Clapton (Yardbirds, 1963-65)(Cream, 1966-68, etc.); Jerry Garcia (Grateful Dead, 1965-95); Marvin Tarplin (Miracles, 1961-73, Smokey Robinson, 1973-present); Ike Turner, Carlos Santana (Santana, 1970-present).

Favorite Rock Drummers: The groups which are listed here are merely the most identified with. All these drummers worked with many groups, and free lance in studio sessions, and touring:
Benny Benjamin (almost all Motown/Gordy/Tamla recordings, 1959-68); Hal Blaine (studio sessions); Bernard Purdy; Ginger Baker (Cream); Ringo Starr (Beatles, 1962-70); Graeme Edge (Moody Blues, 1964-75); Jim Keltner (Gary Lewis & Players, among others); Dino Danelli (Rascals, 1964-72); Bobby Colomby (Blood, Sweat & Tears, 1967-77); Steve Gadd (Steely Dan); Ansley Dunbar (Journey, 1974-78); BJ Wilson (Procol Harem, 1967-75,'77); Mitch Mitchell (Jimmy Hendrix Experience, 1966-70); John Bonham (Led Zeplin); John J. Badanjek (Mitch Ryder & Detroit Wheels, 1964-67,'71); Ian Paice (Deep Purple); Danny P. Seraphine (Chicago, (1966-90); Bill Bruford (Yes, 1968-69,91); Michael Shrieve (Santana, 1969-74,'88); Carl Palmer (Emerson, Lake & Palmer, 1970-79); Neil Peart (Rush, 1974-present); Jeff Porcaro (Toto); John Robinson, Gregg Bissonette.

Music I Don't Care For: Although I may like an isolated example from a category, the categories I don't care for, as a whole are: Country, blues, bluegrass, gospel, hard rock, heavy metal, New Wave, Punk, Rap, Hip Hop, Jazz, Latin.

Music I'm predisposed to Like: Classic Rock, light rock, 1950's Doo Wop, R&B (Soul Music), Easy Listening, New Age, Reggae, Broadway, Big Bands, Folk, Tex-Mex, Western, popular (Sinatra, Bennett, Streisand).

Classical Music: Although I cannot access most classical music, finding it too bombastic, heavy, tedious or just plain boring, there are certain select pieces which bespeak genius: 1st/3rd movements of Beethoven's 9th Symphony; Adagio of Mozart's 41st (Jupiter) Symphony, adagios from Beethoven's Late String Quartets.

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jim Thorpe, Jim Brown, Ty Cobb, Babe Didrikson Zaharias, Honus Wagner, Michael Jordan, Mohammed Ali, Jack Dempsey, Wilt Chamberlain, Carl Lewis, Red Grange, Pele.

Favorite Track Runners: Ron Clarke, Jim Ryun, Gerry Lindgren, Steve Prefontaine, Marty Liquori, Paavo Nurmi, Emil Zatopek, Haile Gebrselassie.

Favorite Basketball Players: Michael Jordan, Dr. J. (Julius Irving), Walt Frazier, Bob Cousy, Meadowlark Lemon.

Favorite Football Runners: Jim Brown, Jim Thorpe, Walter Payton, Red Grange, Franco Harris, Gayle Sayers, Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson, Tony Dorsett.

Favorite Movie Directors: David Lynch, Igmar Bergman, Federico Fellini, Akira Kurosawa, Luis Buñuel, Stanley Kubrick, John Huston, Alfred Hitchcock, Steven Spielberg, John Boorman, Lindsay Anderson, Ron Howard, Lina Wertmuller.

Favorite Actors: Lawrence Olivier, John Gielgud, Alec Guiness, John Barrymore, Charlie Chaplin, Laurel & Hardy, Kenneth Branagh, Humphrey Bogart, Cary Grant, Clark Gable, Edward G. Robinson, WC Fields, Max Von Sydow, Dustin Hoffman, Robert DeNiro, Donald Sutherland, Marlon Brando, Sean Penn, Malcolm McDowell, Samuel L. Jackson, John Travolta, Nicholas Cage, Charles Grodin, James Woods, Vince Vaughn, Tom Hanks, Philip Seymour Hoffman, William Hurt, Joe Mantegna, Hector Elizondo, Alex Baldwin, Jude Law, Viggo Mortensen, Tom Wilkinson, Charles Laughton, Christopher Plummer; Jack Nicholson, Robin Williams, George Clooney, Matt Damon, Tommy Lee Jones, Kevin Spacey, Kiefer Sutherland, Morgan Freeman, Adrien Brody;

Favorite Actresses: Meryl Streep, Glenn Close, Michelle Pfeiffer, Ingrid Bergman, Betty Davis, Liv Ullman, Mae West, Virginia Madsen, Mariel Hemingway, Yvette Mimieux, Cate Blanchard, Frances McDermott, Sandra Bernhardt, Scarlett Johansson, Sissy Spacek;

Favorite Ice Dancers: John Curry, Toller Cranston, Scottie Hamilton, JoJo Starbuck, Katerina Witt.

Favorite Mixed Martial Artists of the Ultimate Fighting Championships: UFC These names are hyper-links. Click onto any of them, and it will take you to their wikipedia page, showing their complete, current records.
Ken Shamrock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Shamrock), Dan Severn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Severn), Royce Gracie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royce_Gracie), Randy Couture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Couture), Don Frye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Frye), Vitor Belfort (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitor_Belfort), Wanderlei Silva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderlei_Silva), Georges St. Pierre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_St._Pierre), Diego Sanchez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Sanchez)

Technically Best-Made Movies: Exorcist I (1973), Lord of the Ring trilogy (2001-03), West Side Story (1961), Angel Heart (1987), Terminator I (1984), Silence of the Lambs (1991), Dune (1984), Blue Velvet (1986), Total Recall (1990), Forbidden Planet (1956), 7th Voyage of Sinbad (1958), Star Wars Series.

Favorite Cool Stuff: Antique Ivory, artifacts made from ivory/bone/celluloid, antique maplewood furniture, old-fashioned fountain pens, old coins, old bills, marble, alabaster, autumn-toned quilted comforters, anything gold, living in NYC's west side, Jewish delis, jumbo shrimp, chopped liver from a real Jewish Deli, Orange Julius', vanilla egg cremes, Famous Ray's Pizza (NYC), Chinese take-out, Nathan's in NYC, Pretty Women who really like me.

Favorite Comedy Stuff: Charlie Chaplin, Laurel & Hardy, Harvey Korman (Carol Burnett Show), Peter Sellers, Steve Martin, Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, Seinfeld, Danny Kaye, Madylyn Kahn, Phil Silvers (Bilko), WC Fields, Steve Allen, Robin Williams, Billy Crystal, George Carlin, Rodney Dangerfield, Jackie Gleason (Honey Mooners), William Bendix (Life of Riley), Amos & Andy.

Least Favorite Comedy Stuff: Abbot & Costello, I Love Lucy, Tim Conway, Gilligans' Island, 3 Stooges, Buddy Hackett, Mel Brooks, Carl Reiner, Martin Short, Jackie Mason, Paul Reiser (Mad About You), Jerry Lewis, Don Rickles, Alf, Bronson Pinchot (Perfect Strangers), 3's Company, Bosom Buddies, Soap, The Ropers, Married With Children, Benny Hill, Stick Puppet 'Madame', MASH.

Favorite Interests (hobbies): Old-fashioned baseball, chess, 60-70's classic light rock music, modern jazz dance, pretty women, Track and Field, Mixed Martial Arts Fighting (watching).

Favorite TV Shows: My 3 Sons, Leave It To Beaver, Andy Griffith, Seinfeld, 8 Is Enough, Amos and Andy, The Real McCoys, Life of Riley, Maverick, Golden Girls, Larry Sander's, Dobie Gillis, Siskel/Ebert, Have Gun - Will Travel, Bonanza, LA Law, Waltons, Little House on Praire, Family, Columbo, baseball games, UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championships), Wicked Wicked Games 2007 mini-series, American Bandstand, The Apprentice, The Bachelor/Bachelorette, Aaron's Way, Love Connection, Parole Board, People's Court, Benu The Phoenix, A&E's American Justice, Cold Case Files, FBI Files, "I Shouldn't Be Alive" - aired on Discovery Channel, 2005-07, and Animal Planet, 2010-present, Court TV's Forensic Files, Arrest & Trial, Meerkat Manor, Dragon's Den, Hell's Kitchen, Kitchen Nightmares, American Restoration, Pawn Stars, Oxygen Channel's 'Snapped' series, Fear Factor, Antiques Roadshow, Shark Tank, American Idol, Bait Car, The Locator, Shipping Wars, Swamp People, City Confidential, Dual Survival, Dateline: Real Life Mysteries, Master Chef, Bar Rescue, Hotel Impossible, Auction Hunters, Whale Wars, Auction Kings,

Least Favorite TV Shows: Keeping Up With the Kardashians, Kourtney and Khloé, Khloe and Lamar, Braxton Family Values, Tamar & Vince, Growing Up Gotti, My Fair Wedding With David Tutera, Bridezillas, The Real Housewives series, Gene Simmons' Family Jewels, Hogan Knows Best, Tori & Dean, Brooke Knows Best, Jerry Springer, Ricky Lake, Maury, Morton Downey Show, Kate Plus 8, Kathy Griffin, Flavor of Love with Flavor Flav, Bethenny Ever After, World's Dumbest, WWE, Mob Wives, Jersey Shore, 1,000 Ways to Die (It's all made up), Manswers, Raising Sextuplets, Graham Norton Show, America's Funniest Home Videos, Oxygen's The Bad Girls Club, Oxygen's Love Games: Bad Girls Need Love Too, Impractical Jokers, truTV's Rehab: Party at the Hard Rock Hotel, Wipeout, Ice Loves Coco, R&B Divas, Living With La Toya, Real Husbands of Hollywood, Go On, The Way It Is, Family First, Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, The Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey, Beverly Hills, Orange County, New York City, and Miami, Exreme Couponing, Toddlers and Tiaras, Gene Simmons' Family Jewels, Say Yes To the Dress,

Favorite Foods: chopped liver from a real Jewish Deli, thick well-done steak, lamb, fried chicken, pizza, cheese, potatoes in any form but especially baked, corn, avocados, artichokes, mushrooms, broccoli, shrimp, crab, lobster, scallops, oysters, clams, seafood/clam chowder, lasagna, quiche, cheese cake, hoagies, popcorn, fastfood burgers such as a mushroom cheeseburger with spicy mustard. (Also am a severe chocoholic, due to a severe caffeine addiction. But I don't eat it anymore because caffeine messes me up. Still yearn/long for coca-cola and ice tea! Memories of my favorite former downfalls are fading fast! Hate when that happens.)

Favorite Comfort Junk food from Childhood - Hershey Bar, Peanut Butter Reese Cup, Baby Ruth, Chunky, Snickers, 3 Muskateers, Milky Way, oreo cookies, TastyCake Fruit Pies, Oatmeal Raisin Bars, Almond Joy, Slim Jim Beef Jerky,

Favorite Colognes - Old Spice, Kent of London, Canoe, Brut, Jade East, English Leather, Pinaud.

I Hope Fever members see me as: baseball knowledgeable, a friendly, nice guy who likes to help people, articulate, having good taste.

Least Favorite People: George Bush, OJ Simpson, Amarosa (The Apprentice), Stacy Kessler (Millionaire Matchmaker), Walter O'Malley, Charles Comiskey, Ban Johnson, Ted Kennedy, TV evangelists, Ariel Sharon, Saddam Hussein, Dick Cheney, Dr. Laura Schlessinger, Diana Ross, the Rockefellers, the Rothchilds, Queen of England, Adolf Hitler and all high-level Nazis, Nicki Manaj,

Favorite Books:
Iliad, Odyssey, by Homer, ancient times
Othello (1604), Hamlet (1600), by William Shakespeare
The Scarlet Letter, by Nathaniel Hawthorne, 1850
Camille, by Alexandre Dumas, 1852
She series, by Sir Henry Rider Haggard, 1887
The Destruction of the Greek Empire and the Story of the Capture of Constantinople by The Turks, by Edwin Pears, 1903
Green Mansions, by William Henry Hudson, 1904
Seventeen, by Booth Tarkington, 1915
Wisdom's Daughter, by Sir Henry Rider Haggard, 1922
The Tiger's Fang, by Paul Twitchell, 1959
2150 A.D., by Thea Alexander, 1971
The Talons of Time, by Paul Twitchell, 1971
With No Apologies: The outspoken political memoirs of America's Conservative Conscience, by Barry M. Goldwater, 1979
Way of The Peaceful Warrior, by Dan Millman, 1980
Ptolia, by Fred Baker, 1982
Hand of Death, The Henry Lee Lucas Story, by Max Call, 1985
On The Breath Of The Gods, by Ariel Tomioka, 1988
Triumph of Justice, The Final Judgment on the (OJ) Simpson Saga, by Daniel Petrocelli, with Peter Knobler, 1998
Your 1st Contact, by Sheldan Nidle, 2000

Favorite Sports Books:
My Life in Baseball - the True Record, by Ty Cobb, with Al Stump, 1961
Cobb, by Al Stump, 1994
Ty Cobb, by Charles Alexander, 1984
The Unforgiving Minute, by Ron Clarke, 1966
Walter Johnson, Baseball's Big Train, by Henry W. Thomas, 1995
Baseball's Best: The Hall of Fame Gallery, by Martin Appel, Burt Goldblatt, 1980
The Glory of Their Times, by Lawrence Stanley Ritter, 1966
Big Sticks, by William Curran, 1990
The Life That Ruth Built, by Marshall Smelser, 1975
Various editions of Total Baseball, especially 1st. ed., 1989
Bill James' Historical Baseball Abstract, by Bill James, 1985, 1988, 2001

Those I Admire Most:
Jesus, Budda, Socrates, Plato, For showing a darkened world a better way.
Leonardo Da Vinci, 1452-1519, Italian Florentine Renaissance painter, sculptor, architect, engineer, scientist; leading figure in sparking the Middle Ages towards an Enlightenment in the arts/sciences.
Winston Churchill, 1874-65, guided England through its darkest hour. Lord of Admiralty, 1911-15, '39; Prime Minister, 1940-45, 1951-55.
Nelson Mandela, 1918-present, S. Africa's 1st black Pres., imprisoned 1962-90, 28 yrs. due to conscience.
Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948, led India to independence from Great Britain via non-violence demonstrations.
Vaclav Havel, 1936-present, imprisoned due to conscience, 1st. Pres. Czechoslovakia, allowed nation to divide without violence/bloodshed.
Albert Einstein, 1879-1955, German Jew, theories on physics changed his field.
Albert Schweitzer, 1875-65, German Christian philosopher, physician, humanitarian, missionary, musician.
Nikolai Tesla, 1856-1943, Yugoslavian inventor whose ideas underlaid most modern machines.
Giuseppe Garibaldi, 1807-82, Father of modern Italian state.
Simon Bolivar, 1783-1830, Father of modern Bolivian state.
Hannibal, 247 BC-183 BC, For military genius, and standing up to Rome.
Emanuel Lasker, 1868-41, German-Jewish chess master, philosopher, mathematician. Chess world champion, 1894-21.
Dali Llama Tenzin Gyatso, 1935-present, 13th in Tibetan lineage. Chinese invasion of Tibet in 1959, forced him into a government-in-exile in N. India. Awarded 1989 Nobel Peace Prize by Norwegian Nobel Peace committee.
Lysander, ?-395 BC, Spartan general who granted unbelievably lenient terms of surrender to Athens in 404 BC, after Athens, during the 30 yr. Peloponnesian war, 431 BC-404 BC, had destroyed many Greek city-states, and killed all their men and sold their women/children into slavery.

My Most Admired Americans:

1. George Washington, 1732-1799, man of virtue, (outside of enslaving blacks), fortitude at Valley Forge, died at his beloved estate, Mt. Vernon, VA.
2. Ty Cobb, 1887-1961, perfected his chosen aspect of human existence, due to his ability to commit his entire being to his goal.
3. George Washington Carver, 1860-1943 American black educator, inventor, agricultural/food scientist, farmer discovered over 100 uses for the peanut/soybean. Did his utmost to assist his fellow Southern farmers in weaning themselves off of their dependency on cotton.
4. Robert E. Lee , 1807-1870, (for EVERYTHING)
5. Douglas MacArthur, 1880-1964, brilliant tactics of island hopping saved American lives. Led US military forces in Pacific in WWII, & Korea. Pissed off Pres. Truman, got fired.
6. Mohammad Ali, 1942-present, for standing up to the draft board, refused to go & fight in Vietnam, spreading his chosen religion, Islam.
7. Stonewall Jackson, 1824-1863, brilliant military tactician for Confederates, under Lee, in Civil War.
8. Jimmy Carter, 1924-present, for his moderation in the Iranian "hostage crises" & building homes for the poor in 3rd world countries.
9. Honus Wagner, 1874-1955, for his Lincolnesque humility & humor despite his awesome greatness in his chosen field.
10. Connie Mack, 1862-1956, his angelic exemplary disposition and great knowledge in his field. Closest person BB ever came to producing a secular "saint".
11. Martin Luther King, Jr., 1929-1968, advocated non-violent means to social progress for American blacks.
12. Barry Goldwater, 1909-1998, American half-Jewish conservative/idealist. Represented Arizona in the US Senate, 1953-'65, '69-87. Ran for US Pres., 1964, lost huge to Lyndon B. Johnson.
13. Murray Rothbard, 1926-1995, American Jewish economist, philosopher, author. Libertarian theorist.
14. Paul Twitchell, 1909-1971, For introducing a spiritually-hungry, modern world to a spiritual path called ECKANKAR.
15. Robert Nozick, 1938-2002, American Jewish Harvard Professor of Philosophy, Libertarian theorist, author. His 'Anarchy, State And Utopia', 1974, articulated Libertarian philosophy.
16. Henry Louis Mencken, 1880-1956, The most prominent newspaperman, book reviewer, and political commentator of his day, Henry Louis Mencken was a libertarian before the word came into usage.
17. William Morton Burgess, Jr., 1907-1998, My Dad - For his lifetime of commitment to his family. Love off the chart.

Favorite Rock Tunes: I've now translated my little list below into youtube links. So now you can actually hear my favorite tunes. Enjoy!

Island of Love (The Sheppards, 1959) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJLJB8QkAAo)
High Life (Herbie Mann, 1960)
Positively 4th Street (Bob Dylan, 1965) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54qhjlTNVn0)
You're My Everything (Temptations, 1966) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btkht2jpPfw)
I Could Never Love Another (Temptations, 1967) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJw7KC78N6k)
Mercy, Mercy, Mercy (Buckinghams, 1967) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdVd3LH1MQs)
Surf's Up, (Brian Wilson, 1967) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDy3kcZfpEY)
Revolution (Beatles, 1968) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imb4tYOk8GE)
Walking In Space (Hair, 1968 London stage version) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9MtJzqfR_c&feature=related)This is NOT the best version. Only last 80 seconds are great.
3-5-0-0 (Hair, 1968 London stage version)
The Soft Parade (Doors, 1969) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XlqCFi6o-E)
Love & Peace (Buddy Rich, 1969)
All God's Children Got Soul (Dorothy Morrison, 1969)
Me & Bobbie McGee (Janis Joplin, 1970) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEBTamMrYbw&feature=related)
Dead Flowers (Rolling Stones, 1971) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ki2daAPp_k)
Touch A Hand, Make A Friend (Staple Singers, 1973) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1IJK0U7Sfg)
Rock Your Baby (George McCrae, 1974) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vIr19aoHQI)
That's Where The Happy People Go (Trampps, 1975) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ACTp68WpQ)
Look Into Your Heart, (Aretha Frankin, 1976, from movie, Sparkle) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DkqAqAqTQk)
Don't Play That Song (Aretha Franklin, 1976) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAa8vwmeewU)
The Flesh Failures (Hair, 1979 movie version) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhNrqc6yvTU)
Waiting For A Friend (Rolling Stones, 1981) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8MhpofxMgk)
Dreams (Cranberries, 1990) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlMWAl7tIro)
Sugar Sugar (Duke Baysee, 1994 reggae version)
Stay (Temptations, 1998) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JtfOXyPyis)

Most of the CDs of Hair, Pet Sounds, Smile and the entire B side of Abbey Road, where the songs segue into the next.

Favorite TV Character Actors:

1. Fred/Ethel Mertz - I Love Lucy - William Frawley/Vivian Vance - 1950's.
2. Festus Haggen - Gunsmoke - Ken Curtis - 1964-1975
3. Barney Fife - Andy Griffith Show/Andy of Mayberry - Don Knotts - 1960-65
4. Eddie Haskel - Leave It To Beaver - Ken Osmond - 1957-63
5. Maynard G. Krebs - Many Loves of Dobie Gillis - Bob Denver - 1959-63
6. Ed Norton - Honeymooners - Art Carney - 1955-71
7. Dr. Zachary Smith - Lost In Space - Jonathan Harris - 1965-68
8. Cosmos Kramer - Seinfeld - Michael Richards -1990-98

Honorable Mentions: Several from Andy Griffith Show.
Gomer Pyle (Jim Nabors), Aunt Bea Taylor (Frances Bavier), Floyd Lawson (Howard McNear), Goober Pyle (George Lindsey),

also Lumpy Rutherford (Leave It To Beaver) - Frank Bank
Maude (Bea Arthur)
My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies:

Listed chronologically, not in order of preference.

1. It Happens Every Spring - 1949 - Ray Milland, professor who discovers wood-repellent substance. Ball jumps around the bat.

2. The Winning Team - 1952 - Ronald Reagan played Pete Alexander.

3. Damn Yankees- 1958 - Ray Walston (My Favorite Martian fame) - Tab Hunter. Gwen Verdon does Bob Fosse choreography (Whatever Lola Wants tango routine). Fosse also made a cameo appearance in dance routine. Music score was outstanding. Tab Hunter plays Joe Hardy, from Hannibal, MO, a transformed old Washington Senator's fan, into a young baseball super hero.

4. The Natural - 1984 - Robert Redford as aging rookie sensation. Glenn Close does nice girl, Barbara Hershey does dark enigma, Kim Basinger is easy on the eyes.

5. Field of Dreams - 1989 - Kevin Costner gets unique chance to reunite with his Dad.

6. Talent For the Game - 1991 - Edward James Olmos plays a BB scout who finds a great pitching prospect, but must become personally involved.

7. A League of Their Own - 1992 - Geena Davis played composite player, Dottie Hinson. Tom Hanks, Madonna, Lori Petty, Jon Lovitz, Rosie O'Donnell support well.

8. Soul of the Game - 1996 - Delroy Lindo, Mykelti Williamson play HBO film's Satchel Paige/Josh Gibson. Good pathos. Had heart.

9. For Love of the Game - 2000 - Kevin Costner is back in uniform.

10. The Rookie - 2002 - Dennis Quaid plays a HS coach with a 100 mph fastball, giving it one more shot, if his HS team cops league title. Nice heart, good pathos.

Honorable Mentions:

Pride of the Yankees - 1942 - Gary Cooper, Babe played himself, as did Bill Dickey, Bob Meusel, and Mark Koenig.

Babe Ruth (1991) (TV), Stephen Lang played Babe, who was trim, for once. Refreshing.
Pet Peeves:

1. Price of ink cartridges for my printer are $32. new. Refills kits only last weeks.
2. Price of high-speed connections to the INTERNET. I pay $46./mo. Absurd.
3. ATM's only give out money in $20. denominations. Wish it were $10.
4. Fast Food chains which don't accept credit/debit cards.
5. Friends who always choose the other person, in call-waiting situations.
6. My computer media player won't let me create a queue for my music.
7. TV/movies which make adults appear like dim-witted idiots. Home alone? Married With Children?
8. Anyone who doesn't practice road etiquette/courtesy.
9. Baseball-Fever presently doesn't accept Excel files.
10. Cell-phone users who, when in public, feel it's OK to impose their personal conversations on those around them.
11. Women claim that looks are not primary, and personality comes first. Wish they really meant it, and acted that way.
12. Women with weight issues going on TV, and insisting how 'ghetto-fabulous' they are. And try to dress provocatively! NOT!! Makes me puke.
13. Tabloid TV shows like Jerry Springer, Maury Povich. Trash. Should get dumped like Rickey Lake, Jenny.
14. Judge Judy: Always bragging how smart she is. Judges should be less rude, more modest, less emotional. Like Judge Alex, or Judge Marilyn Milian from People's Court.

Product Placement in TV reality shows. Examples:
1. Who Wants To Be A Millionaire (Regis Philbin) - He says, "Our friends at ATT will connect you now."
2. American Idol - Big Coca Cola drinks in front of the judges. And Ryan Seacrest constantly informing us how to use "text messaging".
3. Extreme Makeover Home Edition - Ty Pennington constantly telling us that everything comes from Sears.

These shows feel like one huge infomercial to me.
If I have forgotten any other Cool Categories that anyone wishes to include, please, be our guests. Suggested possibilities:
Favorite Supreme Court Justices, Favorites Former Soviet Union Presidents, Favorite Popes, Favorite Former Israeli Presidents, Favorite Baseball Commissioners, Favorite American Presidents, Former Miss Americas and American Idol winners? Or The Bachelor/Bachelorette winners? Just to get you started.
mr. burgess i notice that at one time you worked at the famous n.y.c. club trude heller's. by any chance , did you happen to meet or see any of the local n.y.c bands of that era centered around the village there? meaning the velvet underground, the new york rock ensemble, the silver apples, the fugs, etc.?
I worked at Trude Heller's in 1972, and went there with dates for several years afterwards.

I do not remember those bands you mentioned, but I remember many others.

Margo Lewis Quintet - 5 piece female band. Margo Lewis played huge Hammond organ/keyboards, was beyond fantastic. Tracey Robbins was their totally soulful lead female vocalist. They sang great Staple Singers tunes, i.e. This World, I'm Just Another Soldier, Respect Yourself and Grandma's Hands and a fantastic version of Dorothy Morrison's "All God's Children Got Soul", Janis Joplin's "Me & Bobby McGee".

New York Central - 5 white kids from Astoria, Queens.
Gotham - 3 young, male vocalists
Manhattan Transfer - jazz, later got their own TV variety show.
Frankie Paris
Morgan - black vocalist from Paris, France. Played only James Brown, in French.
Monti Rock III
Blossom Dearie
Addendum on my Dad:
My Dad was born in Dec. 24, 1907. He sold shoes in NYC at Macy's in the ladies dept. from 1927-41. He was drafted in '41, stayed in the army until 1962, as Master Sergeant, retired junior warrant officer, and then worked at the General Post Office in NYC from '62 until the 1980's. Somewhere in-between he was a professional ladies' masseur.

When my family says, "You're just like Dad", my heart could burst with pride. Nicest thing they could say to me. Never tell them that, or they'd stop.

When he was in Korea, trying to not get himself killed, he did something rare. Here is his write-up in "Infantry Blue".


"Though continually subjected to the hardships that make up war, men of the 223d Infantry Regiment in Korea are literally fighting to remain with their unit in the midst of battle, even after their time for rotation to the States comes up.

During the final three months of 1952, according to the regimental commander, Col. Louis W. Truman, Washington, D. C., 47 fighters re-enlisted to remain in combat with the 223d, and 26 of these were for a 6-year period. In addition, 11 draftees voluntarily extended their service tour by 9 months.

Surprising as this is in itself, all the more astonishing is the fact that the unusually high number was reached not as a result of an organized recruiting drive but mainly through the hustle and drive of a pair of battle-scarred warriors.

The men responsible for the re-enlistments are WOJG William M. Burgess Jr., Brooklyn N.Y., and SFC Chester C. Frost, Sacramento, Cal., both of whom are full-time front-line fighters. Between patrols, skirmishes, and defensive maneuvers, when they should be resting, this duo takes it upon its self to have friendly chats with the boys, help solve their problems and give them any aid they can.

Burgess' successful philosophy is "the right man for the right job." He continually strives to get the best for each soldier, and the best out of each soldier, in his unit.

"If the applicant for re-enlistment is eligible for transfer to Japan or another theater," Burgess explains, "we encourage and approve his attempts to better himself in the service. If he wants to stay in Korea for additional promotion, we assist him. We are endeavoring to fit the man's desires to the needs of the Army. Whatever a man's personal life plan or vocation may be, we can use it in the service." (Wednesday, February 25, 1953, Korea edition, Stars and Stripes)

So I am very proud of him. Lost him May 22, 1998, age 90, NYC, but chat with him every day, in here. Thanks for putting up with my hokey sentiments for Dad.
Addendum on Dad/Mom:
I want to mumble a few praises to my own Mom/Dad here. Mom's still with us, thank the Lord above. Dad checked out May 22, 1998, and has been doing what he can for us down here ever since, I'm sure.

Dad: Born: Dec. 24, 1907, Magnum, OK. He was an only child. Growing up, his Mom moved around some. Spent some time in Anaheim, CA, and then on to Chicago, IL, where the White Sox/Joe Jackson were his favorites. Black Sox broke his heart. His Mom & him hit NYC by 1927, and stayed put there permanently. He wasn't allowed to attend school, because his mother, a very educated woman, felt the educational system was too socialistic. So she yanked him, and gave him lessons to do at home, while she worked. Of course a male child on his own won't do his lessons. She tried to put him into HS, unprepared, but it was too much. He later tried college on his own, but couldn't cope. He had no background in an accumulative system. So Dad had no education to speak of, but he could read well.

He sold shoes in Macy's in NYC from 1927-42, when he was drafted by Uncle Sam. Did well in the Pacific sector, under MacArthur, and was called back from the reserves to do time in Korea. Once in Korea, he awoke with a rattle snake coiled sleeping on his belly. Had to have the best marksman in the squad shoot the rattler off his belly. Whew!

He stayed in the service until 1961, a Master Sergeant, stationed at Fort Dix, NJ, with 5 kids. Came out of the service and went to work for the Post Office in NYC, and stayed there from 1962-1977. They then told him he had to retire, since 70 was the mandatory retirement age. He sued them, won, and they had to let him keep working there. But for only half-pay! The greedy sons-of-bitches told him he was taking too much out of the gov., with his SS, Army pension, military disability. He went along. What else could he do?

So he worked until around mid-80's, and then retired. He told me, "Billy, you can't read the papers, play OTB (off-track betting) and watch TV all day." I remember thinking, "I could."

I believe he was happiest in a bar/tavern, with a goodly sampling of folks his own age, preferably with a piano man playing. He loved singing the old songs in bars. He often bought everyone a round. Dad was English/Irish/Scotch. Couldn't get drunk. No matter how much he drank, and he loved his Seagram's 7/Coke highballs, he never slurred, never got stupid, could walk a perfect line. As they say, he "metabolized alcohol perfectly".

Mom: Born: Feb. 24, 1925, New Orleans, LA. She was 18 years younger than Dad. She was Italian/French/Spanish (Madrid). She was a true beauty. Still is, as a matter of fact. Funny thing was, I once saw a copy of their wedding certificate. Dad lied about his age by around 7 years, Mom lied by around 3 years! Who was kiddin' who?!

Mom had been raised by her Mom's sisters. She lived in a big estate on The Croton. Two of her relatives were world-famous Ballroom dancers, "Mary Raye and Naldi". Appeared often on the Ed Sullivan show, performed before the crowned heads of Europe, and the most exclusive night clubs. Their big number was a Tango to "Begin the Beguine". So Mom lived with them on their beautiful estate, in Croton-On-the-Hudson.

Anyway, Mom was raised properly, had a beautiful singing voice, but lost a lot of her "polish" after being married to Dad! He never could adjust to marriage. He was 42 and she 24 when they got hitched Oct. 22, 1949. She raised us dutifully, but he didn't enjoy staying home with us. Usually out playing bingo, making excuses, etc.

Mom did a good job with us, mostly by herself. And she wasn't a strong person, but we made her stronger than she ever knew she could be. So she's my hero, and strangely, Dad is too. He just couldn't make his appropriate adjustments. Mom is happy today, living in Florida with her second husband. Although he's a blowhard in many ways, he did right by her. He's still alive today, aged 90, Mom just turned 80, and he only retired this year from working. And I must respect that a lot.

So that's about all I wanted to say about that for the time being. You may all come out of your comas now.

William Morton Burgess, III
Thought some might be interested in seeing what I looked like back in the day. My Driver's License taken in 1980. Of course, I don't still look that good. Time had taken its toll.

And the dance shot is from 1972, when I was only 21. From April to October, 1972, I had the supreme honor of dancing with Carol Fasano of Brooklyn. We were rock dance partners at Trude Heller's, 9th St./6th. Ave., Manhattan. Best time of my life. No close second.

Bill Burgess

That driver's license photo looks an awful lot like Sandy Koufax! You been hiding something from us all this time, Bill, like a secret identity or something?
Isn't it a shame what time does to a fine young specimen? I'm your age and can relate 100%!

Dang, a real ladykilller

Nice extension, Bill. Lots of time well spent hanging around the barres?

Like a young John Travolta in SNF, not that I'd know anything about that movie... I never watch things like that

Table of Contents:

Page 1
1. Bill Burgess ------------- - Feb. 22, 1951 - Mt. View, CA
2. 64Cards ------------------ - St. Louis, MO
3. Julusnc -----------Jeremy - October 4, 1971, West North Carolina
4. BoSox Rule --------- Bobby - March 16, 1989, Cambridge, MA
5. Honus Wagner Rules -- Adam - August 17, 1968, San Jose, CA
6. tearforamariner --- Russell - May 21, 1985, Tacoma, WA
7. Torez77 - ------------Geoff - June 5, 1977 - Indianapolis, IN
8. leecemark ----- Mark Leece - September 20, 1959, Tacoma, WA
9. Imapotato -------------- JT - January 16, 1975 - Troy, NY
10. Appling --------Roger Kane - 1935 - 70
11. Pumpsie Green ------- John - 14
12. Kroxquo ---------- Keith - May 11, 1965 - Goldboro, NC
13. The Dude (Dudecar00) Wil - June 29, 1988 - 16
14. ElHalo --------------- Jim - 1980 - 25 - NYC
15. Four Tool - --Mark Szymcik - June 9, 1949 - Worcester, MA
16. Captain Cold Nose -- Scott - 34 - Kettering, OH
17. CyNotSoYoung ------- Steve - 1953 - Pittston, ME - 34
18. Mordeci ------------------ - August 29, 1967 - Hamilton, OH, N. of Cincinnati, OH
19. Wagner33 ------------ Jeff - August 29, 1977 - Arlington, VA
20. 2Chance ------------------ - February 17, 1960 - Cincinatti, OH
21. Sirmudgeon - ------------- - 42 - Yountville, Napa, CA
22. tonjes ---------------Mike - Nov. 28, 1981 - Norfolk, Va
23. moviegeekjan ------------- - March 22, 1948 - Phoenix, AZ
24. Ichiro51 - ----------Frank - April 19, 1983
25. Mac195 --------------Japan - 1963

Page 2
26. RuthMayBond --- Jeff James - July 31, 1960 - NE Ohio
27. KHenry14 - ------------Ken - March 16, 1957 - Los Angeles, CA
28. Chanceron ---------- Ronny - May 24, 1950 - Central Florida
29. Rockin500 ------------ Ray - March 1, 1978 - Chicago, IL
30. St.LCards2-Matthew Cornwell- Oct. 9, 1981 - St. Louis
31. Bleacherbee
32. DTF955 --------Davy Fowler - Sept. 13, 1970 - NE Ohio
33. JohnnysGhost-------------- - 1992 - Rhode Island
34. Irow Jaw ------------ Mike - Nov. 20, 1955 - Yuma, AZ
35. JW ----------------- Jason - Oct. 9, 1979 - Baltimore, MD
36. The Splendid Splinter - Bart Schutter - June 27, 1984 - Earl Park, IL
37. Wamby-------------------Jim - 1964 - Northport, AL
38. Say Hey - ----------------- - 1990 - Detroit, MI
39. Busta J2632 ------------Sam - February 20, 1985
40. 538280 -------------- Chris - February 18, 1992 - Ludlow, Mass. -13
41. Yankees Rule -------- Chris - February 7, 1967 - Staten Island, NY
42. Edgartohof --------- Robert - December 6, 1986
43. catcher24 -------Lew Snyder - May 18, 1951 - Jamestown, NY
44. therealnod ----------- Evan - 1974 - Mesa, AZ
45. schlabotnik ---------Johnny - March 22, 1956 - Laval Island, N. of Montreal
46. IPOD--------------------Ian - 1986 - U. of Berkely - SF Bay area
47. SABR Matt --Matthew Souders - Oct. 16, 1981 - Oswego, NY
48. Ize19 ----------------Isaac - August 9, 1988 - Rancho Bernardo, CA
49. Big Stelly Padres 4Life
50. TKO ----------- Randy Fiato - July 24, 1983 - Norwalk, CT, SW Conn.

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51. Uhhh_Stuff ------------- Eddie - Oct. 22, 1970 - CA
52. Nick G ----------------------- - November 11, 1983
53. Wolverineman-Kyle Alan Manning - March 10, 1985 - Oxford, Ind.
54. E.Banks#14 ----------- Garrett - April 26, 1991 - Vernon Hills, IL
55. barzilla -Scott Patrick Barzilla - Nov.30, 1973 - Houston, TX
56. Chancellor ------- Brad Harris - June 20, 1974 - Mt. Grove, MO
57. Giambijuice ------------------ - 1983
58. Screwbll 45 --------- Harrison - March 12, 1989 - Houston, TX
59. abolishthedh ------------- Wes - January 6, 1960 - Bethany, MO
60. scribe114 ------ Shafi McCants - August 15, 1968 - Detroit, MI
61. VTSox Fan -------- Annie Marie - August 13, 1968 - Rawsonville, VT, SE
62. Flash Gordon ---- Eddie Martin - February 19, 1970
63. NeverJustAGame -----Scot Moore - August 17, 1960 - Columbia, SC
64. #1Rangerfan -- 14
65. Bristol Boy -------------Pingu - Apr. 2, 1987 - Bristol, England
66. Pjf-----------------------Pete - age 61,
67. Myankee4life-----Mario Padilla - 16 - Bronx, NY
68. janduscframe-------------Loren - Ellendale, MN
69. Yankee Legend-----------Elliot - May 2, 1989 - Staten Island
70. Windy City Fan----Craig Ashley - July 27, 1977 - Chicago, IL
71. Jalbright --------Jim Albright - April 14 - SE Pennsyvania
72. pjuovolk------------------Pete - 1991 - Maryland
73. MojoRisin71---------------Jim - Arcadia, CA - June 24, 1980
74. rbrittain56---------------Rik - Mathis, TX - Aug. 3, 1956
75. nutmeagh-------------------Ann - Canada

Page 4
76. clockwork-----------------Rich - Philadelphia, PA - 1987
77. Southlake Cubs Fan------Trevor - 1990 - Southlake, TX
78. TyrusRaymond Cobb-Simon Foster - November 23, 1971 - Melbourne, Australia
79. HankAaron86--------------Tyler - 1993--Atlanta, Georgia
80. Deadball2005-------Zach Jendro - 1977 - Cincinnati, OH
81. Give It A Ride ---Samuel Hwang - Dec. 2, 1990 - Palo Alto, CA
82. sschirer--------Shane Schirmer - 1970 - Ludlow, OH
83. Tavish------------Jason Nelson - April 21, 1977 - Topeka, KS
84. Freakshow--------------------- - 1960 - Detroit, MI
85. Dgarza-------------David Garza - October 1, 1974 - Cincinnati, OH
86. Cubsfan97----------------Shawn - November 10, 1990 - Round Lake Beach, Il
87. Driver62---------------------- - Dayton, OH - 1941
88. Dodger-----------Patrick Hogue - February 12, 1966 - West Covina, CA
89. Sultan, 1895-1948 ------ Randy - Sept. 19, 1977 - Sunnyside, WA
90. Digglahhh------Derek Ambrosino - 1980 - Jackson Heights, NY
91. Oscargamblesfro - ------------ - 1971 - Indianaplois, IN
92. YTown Tribe fan--------------- - Cleveland, OH
93. ShoelessJoe3---------------Joe - Buffalo, NY - 1945
94. Pretorius--------------------- - 1983 - Springfield, IL
95. TonyK------------------------- - 1950 - Boston, MA
96. Ken Burns discussion & Civil War battlefields
97. abacab--------------------Andy - Dec.6, 1978
98. History of Baseball Fan
99. House Rules for this Thread
100. 55 chmps------Joseph Pantorno - Dec.10, 1991, Farmingdale, NY

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101. yank0714----------------Randy - Nov.29, 1952, Charlotte, NC
102. baseball Pap-----Scott Carter - Sept. 15, 1972, Logan, Ohio
103. Johnny--------------------Jon -
104. DoubleX------------------Mike - Feb. 22, 1981, Brooklyn, NY
105. EricGotMunsoned----------Adam - Aug. 26, 1987, Grand Rapids, Mich.
106. christian gentleman-----Tyler - July 20, 1968, Amsterdam,
107. Tigerfan1974------------Keith - Sept. 15, 1965, Dallas, TX
108. Brannu----------------Brandon - March 23, 1972, CA
109. AGI----------------------Adam - July 22, 1991, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
110. Pghfan987----------Matt Busch - December 26, 1985 - New Alexandria, PA
111. Murderers Row------Tony Aubry - New York City
112. Food---------------------Alex - 1974, San Ramon, CA
113. ThanksTheo--------------Roger - 1950, Boston, MA
114. kckid--------------Eric Casey - January 8, 1992, Middlesex, MA
115. SoberDennis------Dennis Jones - May 14, 1957, San Diego, CA
118. Brownie31---George Robertson - October 31, 1950, Bessemer, AL
119. Pet Peeves
120. TV Character Actors
121. Rock Music
122. Baseball Junkie----------Jere - PA, 20's
123. The Big C--------Cameron Ball - Eaton Rapids, MI, August 28, 1988
124. RichmondHillPhoenix ----Geoff - October 18, 1989
125. 5LilPlayers------------------ - January 20, 1973

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126. sturg1dg------------------Dan - September 12, 1982
127. WestCoast Orange & Black-Tony - San Francisco
128. Outta Here----Bradley Meadows - 1990, Liverpool, England
129. Chelle---------------Michelle
130. Erik Bedard---------------Dan - Baltimore
131. Kyle------------------------- - 1992 - Holliston, MA
133. CanadianKid------------------ - February 6, 1990
134. Senor Octobre---------------- - mid 1980's
135. hubkittel----------------Jeff - March 3, 1968, Granite City, IL
136. Tigers 527---------------Sean - 1972, Dearborn, MI
137. A Crank---------------------- - 1961
138. Evan Aparra--------------Evan - April 23, 1986, Texas
139. falkirk-buc-------------Colin - 1979 - Falkirk, Scotland
140. Astro------------Scott Roemer - June 12, 1988, Louisville, KY
141. Go-Skychiefs-Go----Steve Reid - August 26, 1992, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
142. bailiff----------------Andrew - Denton, TX
143. John ------------------ -
144. Down Under Dodger---------Bob - 1952, Australia
145. dmbfan--------------------Tim - 1974, Middletown, PA
146. Red Sox Rule-----Adam Corlett - 1988, Leeds, England
147. Chris LDuncan---------
148. Candy Curveball Cummings-Richard Castle - May 30, 1985, Tacoma, WA
149. Nascarfn5-----------Dan Betts - July 7, 1989, Vandalia, OH
150. OhBoy--------------------Bill - Tucson, AZ, 1962

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151. W_Marone-----------Ken Marone - November 18, 1987
152. SwingMan24--------------Chris - October 22, 1980
153. Dodgerfan1---------Bill Irvin - August 4, 1958
154. Keepthefaith3-----------Chris - 1990
155. Chiefs 4 Life------Steve Reid - 1993
156. AlaskatoBalto---Tiffany Amber - 1984, Bel Air, MD
157. Jays632------------------Matt - February 17, 1988
158. Johnny Seven-------------Mark - May 15, 1989, Baltimore, MD
159. Westlake----------Evan Knoopp - April 23, 1986, TX
160. EdmondsFan#1 --Hunter Guthrie - January 18, 1993, Bloominton, IL
161. Wade8893-----------------Joel - January 12, 1985, Seattle, WA
162. Stateofmain--------------Bree - Kentucky/Indianapolis area?
163. Acid Lake-Sung-Min 'Slim' Kim - January, 1991, Timonium, Maryland
164. Future: Greatest2BofAllTime-Danny - February 5, 1992,
165. Hellborn----------Bill Martin - November 22, 1966, Illinois
166. Aleckboy006-------------Corey - October 23, 1991
167. ReignInBlood--------------Rob - June 1, 1988, Tijuana, Mexico
168. Pete Rose Rounding Third ---- - January 20, 1975, Texas
169. Huntington Avenue - Nathan Leveille - February 15, 1991, Glocester, RI
170. Dodger Black & Blue --------- - August 7, 1984, Glendale, CA
171. Dalkowski110---------------JW - November 1, 1987, Ossining, NY
172. Padday--------Patrick Fleming - November 11, 1991, Wicklow, Ireland
173. Colin------------------------ - June 16, 1988, Houston, TX
174. Koufax HOF------------------- - United Kingdom (England)
175. Lin_Kue_Fighter--------------

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176. JeffFrancoeur7--Brandon Matics - March 9, 1995
177. Yankees2k6--------------Yani P - November 15, 1991---Jersey City, NJ
178. JordanDL3891------------Jordan - March 8, 1991, Burnt Hills, NY
179. Chickazoola----Justin McKinney - January 3, 1981, Calgary, Canada
180. MattD1972--------Matt Donnelly - November 10, 1972, Millford, PA
181. nolanryan5714-------------Dave - Dayton, TX
182. Steveironcity-Steve Antkiewicz - November 14, 1980, Pittsburgh, PA
183. Cricketfan_turned-baseball fan - Boston, MA
184. MadHatter--------------------- - Boston, MA
185. Stray Cat--------------------- - Mid-Missouri
186. DaveTheYankee-------------Dave - West Palm, FL, 1995
188. OleMissCub----------------Ryan -
189. Jbooth-------------James Booth - 1950, Gilbert, AZ
190. AlexC------------------------- - Birmingham, England
191. philkid3--------Robbie Griffin - June 7, 1985, Kennewick, WA
192. UrbanShocker13-Steve Osuchowski - November 13, 1979
193. richie hebner--------------Ray - Detroit, MI
194. gojays---------------Ian Usher - Toronto, Ontario
195. George H Ruth-----------George - June 17, 1958, New York City
196. stejay------------Steven Jones - Cleveland, OH
197. Ninja Boi------------------Jay - February, 1967, Lancashire, England
198. blacksilverfan12--Bryce Maddox - February, 13, 1990, San Luis Obispo, CA
199. keystone------------------Judy - September 13, 1946, San Antonio, TX
200. oldschoolyankee------------Ken - November 22, 1962, Franklin Town., NJ

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201. YankeeFanUK--------------Steve - August, 1965, England
202. wrigleybum-------------------- - August 3, 1989, Minneapolis, MN
203. RubeWaddell19--------------Jay - Bradford, PA
204. yeszir-------------------David - 1987, Boston, MA
205. Tenorman------------------John - May 14, 1962, Cold Lake, Alberta, Canada
206. JasonNewEra--------------Jason - February 22, 1983, Westland, MI
207. AstrosFan---------------Judson - 1982, Texas
208. giantsrule-----------Hector L. - 1987, Sacramento, CA
209. nyyfan--------------------Nick - June 10, 1993, across the river from Louisville, KY
210. Solrac---------Jeancarlos Nava - April 12, 1992, Santa Cruz, Aruba
211. ShuttlePilot--------------Jane - Wyoming
212. Domenic-------------Domenic L. - Buffalo, NY
213. 108stitches------------------- - Moose Jaw, SK, Canada
214. Allie Fox--------------------- - -1967
215. Afterglow----------------Steve - June 24, 1983, Millington, TX
216. Civil War posts
217. Tyrus4189Cobb----
218. davidsb----------------------- - -June 3, 1963
219. MyMorningJacket------------Dan - December 21, 1986
221. Brutus26------------------------ - - 1985 - Ohio
222. Heals Going Nine
223. gman5431--------------G Rizzle - Cincinnati
224. soxfan34---------------------- - Boston
225. Shea_goodbye-------------Sean - 1991

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226. ol' aches and pains--------Ken - 1949
227. BlueCrew08----Edward James Lucio - Avondale, Arizona
228. swingman24-----Chris - October 22, 1980
229. wcs71401-------John - August 18 1975
230. RSAmetsfan---------- - South Africa
231. RangerFanInNE-----Nick - Lincoln, NE, 1980
232. GoTribe --------------- - Germany, 1984
233. 3and0------------Greg Brady - 1993, Cold Lake, Alberta, Canada
234. George H Ruth-------George - Toronto, Canada
235. Francoeurstein-----Brandon Matics - March 9, 1995
236. fan--------------Chuck - 1957
240. 9RoyHobbsRF-----Cary C. - 1958, Federal Way, WA
241. Lurch------------------- - 1982, St. Louis, MO
242. NJMetfan4life---------Chris P - August 19, 1994
243. AJbaseball00024---Andrew R. Johnson - Brooklyn, NY, October 31, 1992
244. killebrewski------Jason - West Chester, PA, May 23, 1974

August, 1972: Trude Heller Dancers, Bill Burgess / Carol Fasano. Carol has always been my Muse and my idol. And my dear friend.
August, 1972: Trude Heller Dancers, Carol (Fasano) Lugo / Bill Burgess. Carol now goes by her married name, 'Carol Lugo'.
She was recently featured on 'America Got Talent', August, 2009. She was the 62 year old A & P super-market cashier from Jersey City, NJ.

March 15, 1975: Bill Burgess / former girlfriend. Inset, from my 1980 Cal. Driver's license.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1993: Bill Burgess dancing at a San Jose, CA dance club.

September, 1999: I visited my ballet teacher from the 1970's, Wilson Morelli, in his beautiful San Diego, CA condo in September, 1999. He had been living with Aids since the late 1980's. Sadly, my dear friend/teacher passed away on March 18, 2005. Wilson had run Morelli Ballet in NYC, 1963-1989. May you rest in peace, dear friend.

Three more publicity shots of me and Carol (Fasano) Lugo from Brooklyn. All from the same session, August, 1972.

I just added some photos to my original post. Hope you like them.

Those are, um, amazing? Seriously, it's fun to see you when you were young(er) and dashing. And, yeah, catcher24 is right about that mug -- you look like Koufax!

I think we should all be required to post our prom photos. Mercifully, I don't know how!

Is this the girl who refused your offer to accompany you to the prom? How come she got to wear all of the make-up? :laugh

What was this dance for? Community theater? College production? Broadway?

Oh no. The girl in the above photos was my rock dance partner. Carol Fasano. We worked at Trude Heller's in west Greenwich Village in NYC, 1972.

She had worked there previously, with 2 other fantastic male partners. This photo shoot was paid for by a generous customer, who felt we should have professional 8x10 glossy photos. We went to a private photo studio, and these are from that photo session. I'm still in touch with Carol. She's my muse.

What a great story. And so cool that y'all are still in touch with each other... Greenwich Village, huh? Very counter-cultural of you! :laugh

04-23-2005, 10:59 AM
WB-Glad to hear you made it through everything ok. I know what you mean about the thoughts of mortality, recently turned 50.

As far as my passion for baseball, I came by it by playing with my older brother and neighbors. My brother and the older neighbor brother played against me and the younger brother, my age. I still don't remember how in the world you play BB [this wasn't whiffle or corkball] with 2 players on a team, but we did. When we got a bit older, all the kids in the neighborhood would meet at a empty lot and play pick up games. We played all day in the summer and would meet after school during spring and early fall, usually switching to football games after the World Series. Played for about 6 years in local version of Little League, but always found our unsupervised games were much more fun. The older guys let us little kids play, but felt free to verbally abuse us. Toughened you up quickly and really learned how to properly and colorfully use profanity. Got turned off on bb around age 14 by a manager who was similar to Vic Morrow's character in "Bad News Bears"
Played a little in high school, but wasn't blessed with very good eye-sight, couldn't hit a curve, I was much better at football [a fullback, could really run then]

As far as MLB, what got me initially turned on was the bb cards on the back of Post Cereal boxes. Then I found out they came in gum packages!! I was a junkie for a couple of years, for the cards and that awful pink, hard gum. But I also starting paying attention to Cards radio broadcasts, with Harry Caray and Jack Buck, the greatest team ever, that my Mom usually had on. My dad took me & my brother to our first game, 7/17/62, saw Musial hit a HR to whip the Cubs. Was completely hooked. Parents would take us to Sportsman's Park about 10 times a year, usually for Sunday doubleheaders, since my dad worked most Saturdays.

Besides St. Louis, I've lived in Chicago, KC, Dallas and Atlanta, but have never wavered in my loyalty to the Cards. I'm also a passionate NFL fan, but find I have more of a league interest than devotion to one team, which has changed over the years from the Cardinals, Packers, Steelers, Dolphins, Bear, Chiefs, and Rams. I will freely admit I'm a fair weather football fan, life is too short to root for lousy teams. And I won't root for the Rams again as long as Martz is coach.

I prefer football on TV, but bb is my favorite to watch in person, although seeing the KC Chiefs at Arrowhead was special. I love the history of baseball more than any other sport and this is a great spot to share it. :D
addendum on Dad:
Well, it's Memorial Day and I'd like to thank my Dad and all the other ones who served their country. Dad was 29 when the Japs hit Pearl Harbor, he probably could have sat the war out, but enlisted and was inducted on NY Eve, 1941. He was dating my Mom and she was pissed, cause she didn't have a date that night. Served 4 years, flying in USN PBY's. Went by yesterday to Jefferson Barracks Nat. Cemetery and placed flowers on his grave yesterday. I had the privilege of being with him at the end, 2 years ago at the nursing home I stopped by and he was in very bad shape, died about 20 minutes later.

I mentioned earlier about as a kid, playing ball with older kids and first time I was playing, they stuck me in the outfield and I must have dropped or misplayed a dozen balls. was called every name in the book, came home bawling my eyes out. Told my dad what happened, on Sunday [his only day off] he took me up to the playground, told me something about watching the rotation of the ball. He wasn't much of a ballplayer, but he got me to keep my eye on the ball as he hit me fly balls for a couple of hours. I could catch a fly ball and the older guys stopped screaming at me in our sandlot games.

Thanks Dad.
addendum on Family:
Mentioning women, I hooked up with a wonderful gal about 25 years ago [still looks great,too!] and although we've had our ups and downs, still together, with 2 daughters, 18 & 15. I never had any sisters and I was talking about earlier our neighborhood, it was virtually all guys, for some reason. [Thankfully, there was a lot of gals in surrounding neighborhoods and at school] So living in a household of women has been, at times, a strange existence. They have different priorities and can't understand why I could sit and watch 6 hours of football on Sunday or why on Saturday night I would prefer to watch Fla.-FSU football game, rather than rent a movie, when I say I hate both teams. Or on weeknights, when I prefer watching the Cards game on TV to some nitwit network show. Fortunately, my wife indulges my passions for football, baseball and golf and realizes that I do require some male bonding, which usually involves meeting my buds at a bar and watching sports or going to a game.

Enjoy reading the other posts. You younger guys...man, enjoy yourselves! The time goes by so quickly and there's only so much you can see or do.
Bill, I agree BB was more popular when we were kids, not necessarily as for measurable things like attendance or TV revenue, but as for interest among kids, what they talked about, etc. I'm a traditionalist about the game, loved the old ballparks, hated AstroTurf, domes, the silly uniform trend, now I hate the pants pulled down to the shoes, not to mention the stinking over- commercialization of the game.

Spent 18 years working for a major airline that will probably file Chapter 11 in the near future. Have been a professional BS artist the last 11, in other words, sales. Maximum amount of $ for least amount of work. The airline thing enabled me to travel and see the Cards in lot of ballparks around the country.
Pet Peeves:

Ok, here's what's driving me nuts....COMMERCIALS...tv, radio, at ballgames, at movies, not to mention annoying pop-ups on my favorite web-site [HINT,HINT, BBF] I mean I could accept in the old days, watching or listening to a baseball game, there would be a minute break between innings, then back to the game and Harry Caray or Jack Buck would do a few ad-lib mentions about popping open a cold Busch or Bud, but now every single event has a sponsor tie-in, such as someone going out to visit the pitcher, or an argument with an ump, or bringing in someone from the bullpen. Not to mention all the various clutter that's shoved on the screen. In this day of the internet, do we really need the crawler on the bottom of the screen giving us every possible score? How about watching football, a team scores, kicks the PAT, then 3 minutes of commercials, kickoff [usually a touchback] 3 more minutes of commercials. I've got news for these marketing genuises,WE HAVE REMOTES!! only a brain-dead zombie would sit and pay attention to the endless ads for autos, cellphones and fast foods. Oh yeah, plus continous promos for all these new series coming up on Fox, CBS, etc.

On regular tv viewing, spend a lot of time with TCM and FMC, no commercials, which is why I rarely watch AMC anymore. Plus I subscribe to HBO and Cinemax, very same reason. Because I spend I bit of time driving during the week, got the XM sattelite radio, no ads on the music channels.

How about ads they run at ballgames? At the Rams ugly dome, they blast these things over the PA. The cheerleaders stand at solemn attention, as if they were doing the national anthem.
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Ok, I'm better now.

04-23-2005, 11:06 AM
Name: Jeremy

Age: 33

Home: born and raised in Asheville, North Carolina located in the Western NC mountains

Schooling: Candler Elementary grades 1-8
Enka High School grades 9-12
University of North Carolina at Asheville 2 years
North Carolina State University 2 years
(Degree - Masters in Business and Art)

Employment: I have helped my Mother and Father in their self-owned Antique business since I was seven and continue part time to this day. I opened my own sportscard shop in 1984 while still in school and it is my full-time business in 2005. 20+ years and still going strong.

I have been a sports fan since I was very young. Baseball, Football, Boxing and Hockey are sports I enjoy.

Hobbies: Antiques (collect vintage tin toys and vintage movie and TV Cowboy items), Sportscards, Paintball, Board games, Videogames, Comic Books, Trivia, Reading, and of course watching television

Favorite Books: Chronicles of Amber, Glory of their Times, The Name of the Rose, Grapes of Wrath, The Hobbit, True Detctive, Dirty White Boys, The Thin Man

Favorite Movies: The Searchers, The Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Natural, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Dr No, The Untouchables, Blade Runner, Yankee Doddle Dandy, Sgt. York, High Noon, The Wild Bunch, Star Wars, The Outlaw Josey Wales, The Dirty Dozen, The Omega Man, The Seven Samurai

Favorite Actors: John Wayne, William Powell, Harrison Ford, Brad Pitt, Clint Eastwood, Bob Hope, Dean Martin, Jeffery Hunter, Clint Walker, Lee Marvin, Charles Bronson, Charlton Heston, Tishiro Mifune, Cary Grant

Favorite Bands: The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, The Cure, The Eagles, Van Morrison, Smashing Pumpkins, Johnny Cash, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, Bing Crosby

Favorite Songs: Spirit in the Sky, Ring of Fire, Yellow Submarine, Paint It Black, Give Me Shelter

Favorite Athletes: Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Jim Brown, Jim Thorpe, Frank Thomas, Walter Johnson, Joe Louis, Jesse Owens, Johnny Unitas, Red Grange, John L. Sullivan, Jack Johnson, Eddie Shore, Gordie Howe, Ted Williams

Just some stuff about little ole me.

- Jeremy

I have several ex-professional athletes in my family. Baseball players and Bowlers.
I was at NC State for two years and they were productive for my degree. I am a huge NC State baseball, basketball, and football fan.

My love for baseball started in the mid 1970's watching NBC Game of the Week and listening to Mel Allen. My fondest memories are of Johnny Bench, Mike Schmidt, Hank Aaron, Tom Seaver, Joe Morgan, etc.

The name of my sportscard shop is Strike Zone.

I was able to meet Charlton Heston back in 1985 at a Planet of the Apes SciFi con in Atlanta, GA. I had my picture taken with him and he shook my hand along with an original The Omega Man movie poster autographed.

I am a Ty Cobb fan but Babe Ruth's ability to pitch and hit amaze me so my vote goes for The Babe.
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BoSox Rule
04-23-2005, 11:46 AM

Honus Wagner Rules
04-23-2005, 12:24 PM
Name: Adam

Age: 36

Location: San Jose, CA

Team Affilation: SF Giants!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

I fell in love with baseball through collecting baseball cards about 1977. I had a friend that had just moved across the street from Japan. He always talked about some Giants player named Sadaharu Oh. I grew up in a town called Watsonville which is about 95 miles south of San Francisco. I loved the Giants of course. Willie McCovey came to our Little League banquet in 1979. That was so awesome!!!

My high school years ('82-'86) were a down time for the Giants so I got chided a lot for my Giants' fan fever. In my senior yearbook one teacher referred to me as "the last of the great Giants' fans".

I went to college at Cal Poly Sate University in San Luis Obispo, CA. Immediately the Giants became good, with Will Clark, Matt Williams, and Robbie Thompson. I still remember where I was when the Giants won the NL pennant in 1989. I was washing dishes in the cafeteria on campus. I brought a radio to work and I still remember Hank Greenwald making the call (Sandberg grounded out to Thompson).

I played baseball through little league when I discovered I was a very good distance runner so I focused on that. I was really good in high school. One of my regrets was never trying out for the Cal Poly X-country team. :grouchy

I've always read books. As a kid I'd used to go to the public library and read all kinds of books including baseball books. I remember reading Honig and Ritter's baseball books. There was a book on the history of the World Series that went through the 1972 WS. I memorized every World Series Champion when I was 11 years old!

I am now a Senior Mechanical Design Engineer for Lockheed Martin in Sunnyvale, CA. (I actually start this job on May 9th) I am getting married in one week, April 30th!!

My favorite players:
Barry Bonds, Honus Wagner, Frank Thomas, Eric Davis, Rickey Henderson, Joe Morgan, Eddie Collins, Rube Wadell, Mike Schmidt, George Brett, Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Lefty Grove, Jackie Robinson, Sadaharu Oh, Yogi Berra, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays.
I ran a 2:03 800 m, 4:26 1600m, and a 9:43 3200m. Aslo ran a 35:02 10K. My track times were form 1986 and the 10 K from 1985...I am moving to San Jose next week. I work in the aerospace industry and I start a new job at Lockheed Martin in Sunnyvale next month!
Of course! So would Jim Ryun, Gerry Lindgren, and Marty Liquori. These guys were genetic freaks!! The mid 1960s was a great time for young American distance runners. It's been all down hill ever since for America. Some side info. My high School mile record was set in 1966 at 4:13. It still stands today. My high school x-country and track coach was a teammate of the record holder. He said this guy was the most gifted runner he had ever seen. He ran the 4:13 on very little training.

04-23-2005, 12:32 PM
Name: Russell

Age: 20

Home: Tacoma, Washington

Schooling: St. Martin's College, Political Science

Employment: Currently unemployed.

Hobbies: Baseball, Football, Poetry, Politics.

Favorite Movies: Clerks, Mallrats, Dogma, pretty much anything by Kevin Smith. Office Space, Marathon Man, Goodfellas, Raging Bull.

Favorite Actors: Dustin Hoffman, Tom Hanks, Jack Nicholson.

Favorite Director: Kevin Smith.

Favorite Bands: The Beatles, John Lennon (Solo), Johnny Cash, Nirvana, Dropkick Murphys, Green Day, Jimi Hendrix Experience, REM.

Favorite Songs: Happy Christmas, End of the World, American Idiot, Lithium, Hurt (Cash version), A Boy name Sue, and anything ANYTHING by Jimi.

Favorite Athletes: Carl Yastrzemski, Pat Borders (real life Crash Davis), Steve Prefontaine, Steve Largent, Tom Brady, John Kitna, Rocky Marciano.

04-23-2005, 12:37 PM
OK, here goes:

Name: Geoff
Age: 27
Born: June 5, 1977 in Indianapolis, Indiana
Moved to Weston, Missouri in 1983. Now live in Platte City, MO.

I have my brother to thank for my interest in baseball. My bro played a lot of Little League and in High School. He was never much of a hitter, but was an excellent fielder.
Me? I was NEVER much of an athlete when I was a kid, mostly because I wasn't interested in sports when I was in grade school, so I never practiced. I was always the smallest kid in my class. My interest in sports grew as I got older, but I never possessed any special athletic ability. I participated in Track and Wrestling in High School. I was a decent sprinter in Track. I only wrestled for 1 year, cuz rolling around on the mat with sweaty guys didn't suit my fancy.
Following High School, I began working out vigorously, and added 40 lbs of muscle to my frame. I now weigh 155 lbs with 5% body fat. I used to weigh 115 lbs in High School. No wonder I was always picked on! :o
I now attend college at Missouri Western State College in St. Joseph, MO. I started in 1999, and am pursuing a Communications degree with a scriptwriting emphasis. I am not currently going this semester, as money's kinda tight right now. I enjoy writing stories and scripts, and am currently (slowly) working on a project that I hope will turn into a movie or TV series someday.

My interest in baseball grew over the years playing computer simulation games with my brother, and I fell in love with baseball statistics. Baseball is NOT my favorite sport to watch! Football and basketball are much more exciting to watch. I do NOT watch today's baseball games. Some of the reason is cuz I lost interest in it with the strike of '94 and am losing more interest by the year as more players take roids. There has also been no player in recent history that is truly captivating, like Michael Jordan in basketball or Jerry Rice and Barry Sanders in football. But in terms of history and statistics, baseball is by far the most interesting sport, and that is why it captivates me, and that is why I'm here on Baseball Fever. I mostly enjoy comparing players, debating who's better, and creating all-time Dream Teams.

Employment: I am currently working at a fitness center in Platte City, training people to work out and get in shape. I'm only working 25 hours a week, though, and am seeking better employment.

Hobbies: Working out, Writing, Surfing the web and Baseball Fever :D , Swimming, Videogames, Watching TV, Reading, Big-Boned Women :D

Favorite Movies: Back to the Future Trilogy, American Graffiti, Indiana Jones Trilogy, Star Wars Trilogy, Jaws, Field of Dreams, The Natural, Somewhere in Time (I like that one too, Bill!), Big Trouble in Little China, Rocky I thru V, Rambo I thru III, The Exorcist, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Superman I & II, and the list goes on and on!

Favorite TV Shows: Wonder Years, Honeymooners, Incredible Hulk, Quantum Leap, Family Ties, Three's Company, Star Trek (original series)

Favorite Songs: Beat It, Real American (Hulk Hogan's theme song in the 80's), Hurts So Good, Satisfaction, Back In Black, You Shook Me All Night Long, Flashdance, I Love Rock 'n' Roll, All I Need, Jailhouse Rock, If I Can Dream (from Elvis' 68 Comeback Special)

Favorite Musical Artist: Elvis Presley - I was raised on him by my mother. He is my favorite entertainer, period! Other musical artists I like are the Rolling Stones, Motown from the 60's, Led Zeppelin, John Cougar Mellencamp, Michael Jackson (in the 80's), Rick Springfield, Van Halen, AC/DC, Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, U2, Duran Duran, Hall & Oates, and the list goes on and on! As you can see, I'm heavily slanted towards 80's music, but Elvis is the King and my all-time fave!

Favorite Actors: Sylvester Stallone, Kurt Russell, Michael J. Fox, Mel Gibson, Elvis, Harrison Ford, AH-nold Schwarzenegger, Jackie Chan

Favorite Athletes: Michael Jordan, Babe Ruth, Jerry Rice, Barry Sanders, Hulk Hogan

Favorite Superheroes: As my avatar suggests - Superman! Also, the Incredible Hulk, and Wonder Woman (hubba hubba) :D

Favorite Sports: WWF Wrestling in the 80's - Hands down the most entertaining sport ever! :D Today's wrestling sucks!
Oh yes, and there's baseball (old-time baseball), football and basketball.

Favorite Sports teams: Football - Indianapolis Colts, since I was born there. Used to like Montana-and-Rice-led 49ers, and Sanders-led Lions. Basketball - Chicago Bulls, specifically the Jordan-led Bulls. Baseball - since I don't watch today's game, NONE. Used to be the Royals in the 80's. College football and basketball - Notre Dame and Indiana!

My birth state of Indiana and birthtown of Indianapolis will always remain special in my heart! I'm a Hoosier and proud of it!
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That's all I can think of right now!

04-23-2005, 01:48 PM
Name: Mark
Age: 45
Born: Michigan, about 50 miles north of Detroit
Now Live: Washington, about 85 miles south of Seattle
Education: History degree from University of Hawaii
Employment: Spent some time in the Navy after college and retired from the Navy Reserve last year. Manage a drug store now.
Hobbies: I used to read alot (mostly fantasy genre and , of course, baseball history, references and novels) , but most of the that time now goes to BBF. Gardening in the summer. Movies in the offseason or offdays/day games during the season. Fortunately, my wife is a baseball fan also - although not a fan of all the time I spend here. I've got 2 year old and 2 month old granddaughters who get most of my free time when I'm not with you guys and sometimes the 2 year old helps me with my posts.
Baseball background: I grew up a Tigers fan. My father and grandfathers were all fans. We went to a few games a year and watched or more often listened (there were only a dozen or so televised games a year in those days) to mst of the rest. Strongest early baseball memory was being at the park for Denny Mclain's 30th win in 1968. Besides being a Tigers fan, I collected cards (a hobby that didn't follow me into adulthood) and played Strat-O-Matic. As some you know, SOM has been replaced by Diamondmind as my game of choice in the computer age.
--I played Little League and American Legion ball and watched from the bench in junior college, but had more love than talent for the game. I was actually better at basketball, but wasn't exactly Micheal Jordan there either.
--I haven't lived in Tigers country for over 20 years and they haven't been an easy team to follow long distance for awhile. I lived in Japan for a few years and Hawaii for longer and didn't really watch alot of baseball in those years. I've lived in Washington since 1995 and the Mariners gradually displaced the Tigers as my team. My wife is a big M's fan and we don't miss many games, although we only get to the park in person a few times a year.
addendum on Family:
--Bill, I have 2 granddaughters ages 2 years and 2 months. My son is 23. I do feel a little guilty sometimes about the amount of time I spend here, but there are alot of worse vices I could have (and some that I used to in my younger days).
--I share your enjoyment of the Dune series (the books, moreso than the movie versions) and the original Star Wars trilogy. Liked the Lord of the Rings movies even more than the books. Best books I've read recently are George RR Martin's "Song of Fire and Ice" series, of which he is a year behind schedule on the latest (and conclusion?).
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04-23-2005, 02:39 PM
Well 1st I am a big Star Wars fan as well Bill, I love the games and such and as a kid, I built Star Destroyers and landscapes with cardboard boxes to go with my action figures (I sold the action figures about the time of the announcement of The Phantom Menace for around 5K)

Ok - On to my very fast mini-bio.

Born in '75.
Grew up VERY poor, and excelled at athletics and was an honor student until puberty when baseball and women became my loves and school work slipped.
My Mom started drinking heavily after marrying my step father, maybe something to do with thinking he would leave...the man was in love with her and 30 years later he is still with her.

Had my 1st. son in '92 at age 17, mother stopped drinking 4 years later when she met him, I call him her Guardian Angel.

A scout came to look at a pitcher we had (Justin Gardner) but was not impressed by his mechanics, and noticed that I called an excellent game, showed him my notes on every one of our opponents and he asked me to come to Mets Rookie Camp during the summer.
Went to Mets Rookie Camp at the end of June, '93.
Met the fabulous 3 (Bill Pulshipher, Isringhusen and Wilson) Pulshiper was a jerk, but this year I would find we suffered from the same mental illness. Mets had a Catcher by the name of Todd Hundley (who only I thought I was better then...and well look now) and so my lite bat, and my wanton to get HBP and walk more then hit was my undoing (only 1 player stole on me in that trial and it was with a man on 3rd). So my defense was spot on...but realized with technology my strength was not a strength at that level...
I hit around .180 with 5 HBP and Pulsipher made me look real silly once.

Joined the Army in August of 1993, at the completion of Boot Camp was sent to Somalia, 2 months after Black Hawk Down...was shot in the left knee, half of my knee is plastic, received Purple Heart and instead of medical discharge got Pool PT and recuperated. Sent to Haiti in '94, Panama in '95, and if I reupped would have been sent to Ft. Bragg and sent to Bosnia instead of Japan where I wanted to go. (A sailor and Marine raped a woman in Okinawa around this time and we had to move our base to an offshore oil rig, maybe some of you remember this.)

Was married in 1994, divorced in '99.

Second Son was born in '98.

Have custody of both my boys.

Worked in various jobs but landed a job at Sealy as HR/Payroll Manager, and thus started my Payroll, HR, Accountant twisting career.

Moved to TX around 2001 or around there, met a woman who played me like a violin and got pregnant in order to collect 18 years of child support (her actions after the pregnacy dictates no other motive.)
So I have 2 sons and a daughter I probably will never see.

In 2003 moved back to NY, my career in shatters....went back to school, and my Stocks have plummeted (had Krispy Kreme stock..yah !) so now I am looking for work.

Recently the Tri City Valley Cats wanted me to tryout, but I can't see myself making a living at my age in the Minors with 2 kids and a child support payment.

Oh and my sons did not take after me in athletic ability, but my youngest has my terrible perfectionist trait.

umm for Music, I like songs more than Artists.
Books, I like The Face by Koontz and Bang the Drum slowly by L'Armour (one of his rare non-western titles).

Baseball book - I am a business guy, so I like the "Economics of Baseball".

I don't like football, basketball all that much, even though with all my anger issues I was quite the MLB in High School, and 6th man in B-ball they were just frustrating to me...Fouls in basketball and penalties in football (yea I was sort of a dirty player). Baseball was one game where the rules fitted me...if a guy tried to bowl me over a pop in the nose with my glove and the ball would make sure he wouldn't do it again...hard slide into second was a given with me.

Favorite Players
Sherry Magee
George Cutshaw
Ty Cobb
Juan Samuel
Garry Maddox
Pepper Martin
Rube Waddell

I guess that's it for me, unless someone knows of any Accounting jobs to offer me :)
Well it also shows where some of my weaknesses come into play.
I get along fine with you Bill...(after all I've been through, discussing whether Negro League players were HOF worthy or just decent ballplayers is not a life or death argument) but do NOT change your way of debating me...this is the ONLY Forum I have found that I love for the sake of all involved (yes even RMB and his needling) and wouldn't want anyone to change their perception of how to deal with me because my life has basically stunk. That would be pity, and I never needed that.

I do find I have more patience and open mindeness for my elders and contemporaries then I do for a pseudo-wise 22 year old that thinks they have figured it all out. In fact I despise those people...and will be very blunt in saying so (college was a headache this year) I do have to work on that, and I also realize I am the type of person you either love or hate and there is no in-between.

But I don't expect or want any more respect because of my life, I am quite anti-authority myself after the Army, and was one of the many that spoke out on the War in Iraq, and realized that the Terrorist Attacks of 9-11 did come from how our government treats them as a whole (not exactly well received by blind patriots in this country).

As for the women, well, because of my home life, I always wanted the stable 30 year marriage full of compromise, understanding and perhaps sacrificing excitement for stability, which has led to wrong and hasty decisions. I realize after the last one, it just is not going to happen...but what can ya do?

Even Superman had a weakness, mine is the women I choose.

04-23-2005, 03:22 PM
My real name is Roger. Born in Chicago (far South Side) in 1935 (I will turn 70 this summer!). Went to Catholic grade school and high school in Chicago, then to Johns Hopkins Univ, majoring in Engineering. (Some of my best friends became doctors, but I could never stand the sight of blood.)

During WWII we always played "War" with the enemy being the "gang" on the other end of our block. I was the leader of "Roger's Gang" but that all ended when the war ended -- and my good friend Marty moved to Chicago from New Jersey. We were in sixth grade.

He taught me and others to play sports -- mostly baseball and football. We all became White Sox fans but in those days we all needed a "backup" team that actually contended for the pennant. Marty's backup was the DiMaggio and the Yankees, mine was Williams, Stephens and the Red Sox. Others like the Musial and the Cardinals. But we all hated the Cubs!

My Dad was a great baseball fan and told me lots of stories about the teams of old -- especially Babe Ruth and the Yankees. He also took me and a couple friends to one or two White Sox games each year but I didn't have much interest until sixth grade (when Marty moved into our neighborhood).

Our gang (I remained the nominal leader but at least five or six were better players than I was) played pickup ball against others kids our age until 8th grade. Then in high school (and when I was home from college in the summer) we played in park leagues. We played slow-pitch softball on Tuesday and Friday nights, then fast pitch BASEBALL on Sundays. We were a great team in softball, usually playing against teams with players in their late 20's or early 30's -- and we usually scored lots of runs and won the league. But baseball on Sunday was different -- we had two good pitchers and a pretty good fielding team, but rarely scored. We won some games by 1-0 or 2-1 but also lost 2-1 or 3-1. We never scored more than one or two runs in a game -- usually with Marty getting on first, stealing second and then advancing on ground outs. I both baseball and softball I played second base and Marty was shortstop. I tried out for our varsity baseball team in college -- but after I ducked from an inside fastball they could get me out easily on curve balls.

About six of us from our softball team formed a league with APBA baseball teams (the APBA MAster Game) and that's where I started my interest in baseball history.

I was married shortly after graduating from college. 48th Anniversary later this year! We have six children (3 boys, 3 girls) and nine grandchildren.
Most of my life I worked in "Quality": Quality Control Engineer, Quality Manager, Reliability Manager, Director of Quality. I worked for only two companies but was transferred a number of times. We have lived in Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, Oklahoma City, and San Antonio. Some of those places more than once. Now retired and living in Oklahoma.

Favorite sports movies: Monty Stratton Story; Pride of the Yankees; the Natural.

Favorite music: almost anything from the 1950's. Very little music that I like after the mid-1970's.

Major interest here is college football.

For those who haven't already done so, I'd like to re-invite all here to mention their Dads/Moms. Was your Dad/Mom your hero/heroine?

Also pet peeves, or what drives you nuts!. Also, your kids, anything more on music, etc. After a little while, I'll add your addenums to your original bios.
Most fitting that I should read this post today (Feb 1). My hero was my Dad, and if he were still alive today would be his 96th birthday. From what others have told me, Dad was a good athlete in his younger days but I remember him only as a scratch-handicap golfer. He would almost always win our church annual golf tournament, and as a city policeman he several times won the Longest Drive contest of their annual tournament. He actually had low gross at the police tournament only once or twice -- but if he could putt like a pro he could have been a pro golfer. The week he died (at age 65, after suffering a severe stroke the year before) he player 18 holes on Monday, 18 holes on Wednesday, and then was hit with congestive heart failure when he got home Wednesday afternoon. He died the next morning.

Dad was ten years old during the 1919 World Series, and the stories he told me of that event pretty well match the story of "Eight Men Out". Living on the South Side of Chicago at that time, Dad's personal hero was Buck Weaver, whom he remembered as possibly the best third-baseman ever. (Either Buck Weaver or Pie Traynor.) Dad helped me appreciate baseball history because he made it live for me.

I first came to appreciate baseball stats as a kid by playing the "Ethan Allen All-Star Baseball Game" -- but even more after my freshman year of college when I ordered my first set of APBA. I bought what was perhaps the very first edition of that game in Fall 1953 or Spring 1954. When I returned home the following summer, four friends and I organized and played a league using the "APBA Master Game" and their All-Time Great Teams. We played baseball on Sunday, slow pitch softball on Tuesday and Friday nights, and APBA the other nights of the week. My team was the 1934 St. Louis Cardinals. Until then I never heard of Ripper Collins!

I have three sons (adults now, of course) and the younger two are still great fans of baseball. Besides playing themselves in high school, they are avid fans of baseball stats and trivia. They learned their grade school arithmetic thru their working with baseball stats. When my younger boys were in 3rd and 5th grade I bought them their first APBA Master Game, and they loved it. They found a use of baseball stats! The game formed the foundation of their understanding of sabermetrics today.

Their older brother "Mike" was in 9th grade at that time, but by then his time was fully occupied with music: school band (French horn); school orchestra (cello) -- and he formed a combo group that played in restaurants in suburban Pittsburgh. In that group Mike played guitar and banjo. (Mike quit playing baseball in sixth grade when I -- as a designated parent-umpire -- called him out on a pitch he still insists was NOT A STRIKE!) Mike also composed music, and his middle-school had a concert "featuring the music of Paul Simon and (my son) Mike. He later earned a full tuition scholarship to college, majoring in voice.

04-23-2005, 07:14 PM
Name: John
Age: 13, almost 14
Live In: New Hampshire

Favorite Sports: Baseball, Football, Basketball, Hockey

Favorite Films (In Order Of Greatness): The Exorcist, Pulp Fiction, The Godfather, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, The Empire Strikes Back, Halloween, The Terminator, This Is Spinal Tap, Silence of the Lambs, Dirty Harry, The French Connection, South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut, Waiting For Guffman, Animal House, Rushmore, Chinatown

Favorite Directors: Wes Anderson, Martin Scorsese, Quentin Tarantino, Christopher Guest

Favorite Actors/Actresses: Jack Nicholson, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Marlon Brando, Lee Marvin, David Cross, Jeffrey Tambor, Kate Winslet, Uma Thurman, Natalie Portman

Favorite TV Shows: 24, South Park, The Simpsons, Arrested Development, Family Guy, Seinfeld

Favorite Musicians: Bruce Springsteen, The Rolling Stones, The Clash, The Velvet Underground, Chuck Berry, The Sex Pistols, Bob Dylan, The Who, U2, The Shins, Green Day, Ray Charles, LCD Soundsystem

Favorite Athletes(Non baseball): Jim Brown, Bill Russell, Larry Bird, Tom Brady, Terrell Davis, Tedy Bruschi, Ladanian Tomlinson, Joe Montana, Shaquille O'Neal, Ray Bourque

Favorite Baseball Players: Curt Schilling, David Ortiz, Ted Williams, Yaz, Willie Mays, Pumpsie Green, Jackie Robinson, Babe Ruth, Jeff Bagwell, Frank Thomas, Kevin Millar
At 12, I started to really apprectiate cinematic artistry in film. Before then, I'll admit I fell for those "popcorn flicks" with little, if any, real story or true characters, but just with many explosions. However, after seeing "Pulp Fiction" on AMC, which, along with the TV show "24", is my prime inspiration for wanting to go into directing/screenwriting film and television, I began to fully appreciate the greatness of film. Most all of my favorite films of all time, most of them universally critically acclaimed, I saw after age 12, so that was a turning point in my life, I think. I began to realize that film can be a true form of artistic greatness and power, and I think, despite being lofty expectations, that's what I want to do with my life. I just love film, and in my honest opinion, it tells stories greater than books. I really like gangster films, and films that aren't "Hollywood fare", that have implausible instances for the sake of the audience. Truth be told, I love James Bond films, at least the best of the bunch, but I also like films like "Chinatown", where not everything goes the way of the protagonist. Hollywood has lost sight of what makes films great, and I want to help change that. I'd love to see Hollywood return to the way it was in the 1970s, when directors were taking chances and consistently making great films. I know I'll probably have to leave my many friends and family to go to the City of Angels to reach my goal, but I think it's going to be worth it. I saw that you like many foreign directors, such as Fellini and Bunuel (I was surprised to not see Truffaut or Godard with the bunch), and although I haven't really seen any foreign films, I'd like to see "Rififi" and "Bob Le Flambeur", two 1950s seminal foreign gangster films, sometime.

04-24-2005, 08:18 AM
Just a little not about me.

Born in Philadelphia, May 11, 1965 - I'm looking at the big 4-0 in a few weeks.

Simmons Elementary School, Horsham PA until 2nd grade which technically should have been first grade, however they skipped me to the second grade for the academic achievement.

Avalon Elementary School, Avalon NJ 2nd grade to 8th grade. My parents moved to the Jersey shore in '72 and we lived there full time for eight years. My Dad taught at Wildwood High School and coached baseball and basketball. During the summer, my parents ran a guest house, kind of like a bed and breakfast without the breakfast. I ended up doing 2nd grade twice to get me back on my age level. While living in Avalon, I learned that I would never be a pro ballplayer when I couldn't get off the scrub team in Little League.

Hatboro-Horsham High School, Horsham PA, class of '83. In '80 we moved back to suburban Philly and I managed to letter in baseball three years in a row while serving as statistician and equipment manager.

Grove City College, Grove City PA, class of '87 B.A. in history and political science

Duquesne University, Pittsburgh PA, class of '90 M.A. in History with a concentration in Museum Studies. While there I wrote a paper on the formation of the National League and how it correlated to the more general trend in American Big Business. This is where I became really aware of William Hulbert. While living in Western PA I became a temporary fan of the Pirates and got to know Three Rivers Stadium quite well. I also met my wife in Grad School. We now have three girls ages 14, 11, and 3 months.

After I graduated from Duquesne, I worked for about a year at Bushy Run Battlefield, a French and Indian War battle site about 45 miles east of Pittsburgh. I then moved to Eckley Miners' Village, a restored coal mining company town outside of Hazleton PA on the western fringe of the Pocono Mountains. I directed all the educational programs there. one of the prgrams I introduced to the museum was the game of townball, an 1850's precursor to baseball. There was an annual game held to show the public what the game was like. I worked at Eckley until 2000.

In April 2000, I moved to Goldsboro NC to take a job as a teacher. I am currently teaching eighth grade social studies and science.

Many of you may have seen me in September of 2002 when I was a one-day champ on Jeopardy! I won $29,801 on that one- day.

Other personal notes -

Music - Classic rock, classical, show tunes (curse you, Mom!)

Movies - Sci Fi, but interested in all genres. Stanley Kubrick and Terry Gilliam are among the best directors ever

Huge fan of the Hitchhikers Guide and Monty Python

The Dude
04-24-2005, 10:53 AM
Age: 25
Home: Born in Milwaukee, WI, but currently living in Appleton, WI

Schooling: Kimberly High School Alumni (2006). Attended University of Wisconsin - Oshkosh for 3 years before deciding it wasn't for me.

My passion for baseball comes from being in a family whom loves baseball and living in a city that loves baseball.

Work: Cellular Business Accounts Manager

Hobbies: Writing. Baseball.

Favorite Books: Lord of the Rings, The Great Gatsby, The Gunslinger, Wizard and Glass.

Favorite Movies: The Big Lebowski, No Country For Old Men, The 3rd Man, The Big Sleep, The Seventh Seal, Inglorious ********, Pulp Fiction, In the Mood for Love, The Good The Bad and the Ugly, The Dark Knight, Sin City,

Favorite Bands: Franz Ferdinand (Post-Punk Revival), The Avett Brothers (Alternative Bluegrass/Folk), Wilco (Alternative Country) & Pink Floyd (Psychedelic/Progressive Rock),

Favorite Type of Music: Post-Punk, Post-Punk Revival, Alt-Country, Bluegrass, Bebop, Big Band

Favorite MLB Players: Richie Ashburn, Albert Pujols, Ryan Braun, Roy Halladay, Roy Oswalt, Joe Mauer, Craig Counsell, Mike Schmidt, Dustin Pedroia, Tim Wakefield, Jason Varitek, Randy Johnson

Favorite NHL Players: Sergai Fedorov, Marc Savard, Zdeno Chara, Teamu Selanne, Tuukka Rask, Miroslav Satan, Chris Pronger, Bobby Orr, Ray Bourque

Favorite NBA Players:Rajon Rondo, Paul Pierce, Larry Bird, Bill Russell, Ray Allen, Andrew Bogut, Carlos Delfino, Chris Anderson, Dirk Nowitzki, Dennis Rodman.

Favorite NFL Players: Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Teddy Bruschi, Ben Watson, Mike Alstott, Drew Bledsoe, Adrian Peterson, Tim Tebow.

Favorite Actors: Sean Bean, Robert De Niro, Mark Wahlberg, Humphrey Bogart, Tony Leung, Jeff Bridges, Clive Owen.

Favorite Actresses: Lauren Bacall, Parker Posey, Kate Winslet.

Favorite Directors: Joel & Ethan Coen, Stanley Kubrick, Wong Kar Wai, Sergio Leone, Quentin Tarantino, Judd Apatow.

Favorite Sports Film: In my opinion, I believe Field of Dreams is THE greatest sports film of all time. To me, it speaks volumes about what baseball is to people. Baseball isn't just a sport like basketball or football. Baseball is to us as Soccer is to the rest of the world. As a child the first thing I learned about was baseball from my parents and my family. Maybe one of the reasons I love Field of Dreams, is the final scene in the film where Ray gets to have that game of catch with his dad. Unfortunately, due to injuries my dad suffered, I've never been able to play a game of catch with him. Even today, every sunday night me, my sisters, my brother in law, and my parents gather on sunday to watch the Brewers in the afternoon and then watch sunday night baseball on ESPN. I think Field of Dreams isn't just about the sport of baseball, like so many sports movies are. So many sports movies just use the sport (wether it be hockey, baseball, football, or basketball) to get a message across or to teach a lesson or tell a story. However, it is Field of Dreams that stands out at the end, as a love letter to the game, it's history, and everything baseball means to everyone who has ever appreciated as much as the people on this forum.
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04-24-2005, 07:09 PM
Age: 25
Occupation: Attorney
Location: New York

Favorite ballplayers: P. Martin, B. Martin, D. Dean, R. Waddell, R. Hornsby, D. Jeter, D. Strawberry

Favorite movies:: Anything 90's neo-noir (Tarrantino movies, Se7en, Fight Club, etc.); anything with Jimmy Cagney

Favorite Rock Bands: Nirvana, Radiohead, Hendrix, CCR, Smiths

Favorite Rock CD's: Don't really go by CD's, go with songs

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: CCR Chronicle

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jim Thorpe, Jesse Owens, Joe Louis, Barry Sanders, Michael Jordan, Carl Lewis

Favorite Basketball Players: Allen Iverson, Bill Laimbeer, Isiah Thomas, LeBron James, Ben Wallace

Favorite Football Runners: Barry Sanders, nobody else close

Favorite Movie Directors: Tarrantino, Hitchcock

Favorite Books:
Lolita, Vladimir Nabakov
Tale of Two Cities, Charles Dickens
The Castle, Franz Kafka

Favorite Rock Geniuses: Kurt Cobain

Favorite Rock Voices: Janis Joplin, Joan Baez, Maynard Keenan (Tool, A Perfrect Circle), Thom Yorke (Radiohead), John Fogerty

Men I admire of the 20th Century: Keynes (economist), FDR, Michael Collins (Irish revolutionary), Lyndon Johnson

Technically Best-Made Movies: Silence of the Lambs (best acting ever)

Favorite Rock Tunes:
Brick, Ben Folds Five
Paint it Black, Rolling Stones
Maggie's Farm, Bob Dylan
Where Did You Sleep Last Night, as done by Nirvana
Folsom Prison Blues, Johnny Cash
Never met my father, never got along with my mother. My grandmother raised me, and was (still is, at almost 82) a saint of a woman.
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four tool
04-25-2005, 05:05 AM
Mark Szymcik 06/09/1949,

Saving the BB stuff for last.

Grew up in Winchendon, MA. Live in Worcester MA.

Had Hemilitic anemia when i was 2, which made me pretty useless playing sports.
Ordained Catholic priest in 1975, left in 1998, Married 1999
Music: Van Morrison, Beatles, Bare Naked Ladies, Byrds, Neil Young, Dylan, Jimmy Buffet, Grateful Dead, Little Feat, Jefferson Airplane, Nora Jones, Avril Lavigne
Books: History, Science Fiction, (favorite living: Howard Waldrop favorite all time:Tolkien) Sports.

Grew up with everyone singing the praises of Ted Williams, followed BB through the newspapers and SI in the library.

First MacMillian Encyclopedia(1969) was an eye opener. Checked HR list, saw Musial just below Gehrig then looked at ABs and started number crunching! Been dealing with stats ever since.

Old enough to have lived through every Red Sox postseason since 1967.Still get goosebumps when I hear the replay of the final play of the 2004 series--it may sink in someday.

Been to Fenway, Wrigley, Shea, New Comiskey, Griffith, Old Baltimore Memorial

Buddy and I went to Chicago once and saw 4 games in 3 days, two at each stadium.

Been to more minor league games in Pawtucket lately than ML games.
Am a practicing married Catholic priest--just not practicing in Catholic churches.

I can understand the removal of the ten commandments from the courthouse for a couple of reasons. If they stayed, then because of church/state separation rules, the Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu etc equivalents would also need to be displayed. The whole point of the constitution is to allow freedom for all religions, not to push any one religion or even one religious tradition.

Every religion has the equivalent of the golden rule, IMHO that is what should be posted in public buildings because it covers everyone and even applies to agnostics and atheists.

Anyone who wants to debate religion feel free to email me at mszymcik@verizon.com. I am a very liberal Christian because I focus on Jesus, not on a denomination's take on Jesus. I'm convinced Jesus would not support right wing Christianity any more than He would support the over-regulated churches like the Catholic Church.
Addendum on Mom/Dad:
DAD/MOM: - Dad was one of my heroes, besides the usual stuff, he also taught us to think. 1962 during the Cuban missile crisis, I was cheering Kennedy on (I was in 8th grade) about getting the missiles out of Cuba. Dad said, "We have missiles in Turkey, what's the difference?" And any time he helped with homework, he asked, "But what does it mean?"

Mom raised 7 kids and always kept her sense of humor. One time she told me to stop sitting on my brother and to get up. As I started to rise after getting off Scott, she sat on me.

PET PEEVES: Too many to list: poorly designed websites and user manuals, teachers who believe in busy work, litterbugs, anyone with a major stake in poor companies, ISPs, etc.
People I admire:

Anyone who can successfully think outside the box:

Robert E. Lee for Chancellorsville et al
U.S. Grant for the Vicksburg manuvers
Napoleon, Hannibal, --lots of generals--I love military history
FDR for trying everything to break the great depression
Jackie Robinson
Amenhotep--first non hebrew Monotheist on record and well before most Hebrews were montheists

Anyone who says I can too--despite race, gender, etc.

Amelia Earhart
Jackie Robinson (yes, both lists)

favorite baseball people, in no order at all

Pedro Martinez--what an incredible record pitching in Fwnway
Teddy Ballgame
The Babe
The Georgia Peach
Earl Weaver
Big Papi
Phat Albert--best hitter since The Splinter
Walter Johnson--how could he win so much playing for the Senators? If he pitched for the Yankees he probably would have broken Cy's win record!
Branch Rickey for breaking the color barrier
Josh Gibson
Bill "spaceman" Lee
Charlie Finley
Bill Veeck

Casey Stengal
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Bill and everyone,

I've been teaching teens and yound adults since 2000, and every class has some (note the some, not just one) students who are aware of the Beatles, Hendrix, Clapton, Doors, etc. They all think of them as groups/musicians for the ages, and the fact I saw most of them in their prime--not the Beatles, alas!--gives me lots of credibility in their eyes.

Mark & the Mrs. Who knew he was such a handsome cuss?

Captain Cold Nose
04-25-2005, 05:23 AM
Why not?

Name: Scott
Age: 34
Born: Detroit. Residing in Kettering (Dayton), Ohio.
Occupation: Corporate trainer for large information database. It's how you know. Disc Jockey-services for hire, with trivia my specialty.

Education: West Bloomfield, Michigan public schools. BA-Central Michigan University. MA-Wright State University.

Baseball:Ingrained. My grandfather worked at Tiger Stadium for 40+ years as "the pencil guy". Went to countless games growing up, also spent much time reading all the baseball books he would bring home from his bookstore.

Favorite players: Yaz, George Foster, Lou Gehrig, Ted Williams, Kent Hrbek, Roberto Clemente

Interests outside of baseball: Music, (jazz and rock what I listen to, but as a DJ, I need to listen to everything.) US History, with focus on Presidents, sports in general, books, movies. Road trips.

Favorite musical acts: John Coltrane, The Replacements, Art Blakey, Miles Davis, Led Zeppelin, Reverend Horton Heat

Favorite movies: Pulp Fiction, Glengarry Glen Ross, Soldier in the Rain, Wild Bunch, It's in the Bag, Napoleon Dynamite

Favorite actors: Steve McQueen, Humphrey Bogart, John Wayne, William H. Macy, Marx Brothers

Favorite Authors: Robert Ludlum, Ken Follet, John Steinbeck, Henry James, Douglas Adams, Harry Kemelman, Dick Francis, Loren Estleman

Childhood celebrity crush: Cheryl Ladd

Philosophy: Who am I to judge anybody?

"I've got no idols" Juliana Hatfield.
addendum on Dad:
It's from my father that I have inherited my work ethic. He worked his way through school in the Buffalo cage at the Detroit Zoo, a job he kept for a couple years after he got on at Chrysler, where he retired in a management role after some thirty years. I might not have appreciated it then, but his hard work helped put two kids through college. I'm not fond of admitting it, but I am starting to become like him as I enter middle age. I certainly have a lot more respect for him, even traveling with him to places like Cooperstown and Gettysburg. Wouldn't have dreamed of doing that ten years ago, that's for sure. I've even started to develop his fear of driving in high places, like bridges and mountains.
Pet peeves, eh?
Discourteous drivers are my biggest pet peeve. All the states I have driven to seem to have one particualr bad habit that stands out, although bad driving is everywhere. Tailgating to failure to use a turn signal to stopping to turn right or moving halfway into the right lane while turning left.
I cringe when I hear someone say anyways. No such word. And a lot is two words, not the combined alot.
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04-25-2005, 05:59 AM
1953 in Brockton, MA (just south of Boston)
Arboretum Director (I get to watch trees grow - love it)
Married 30 years to the same wonderful woman (lucky man!)
2 kids (adopted)
University of Maine - Wildlife & Forestry '76
Lived in Maine ever since but fairly well traveled
Cut my teeth on Red Sox - came of age as a fan in 1967
Played mostly sandlot ball as a kid, softball as an adult
Was a better bicyclist than ballplayer and used to race
Favorite ballplayers:
Jackie - the one player I admire above all others
Yaz - worked hard to be better than his natural ability
Tony Pena - played with pure joy
Bob Gibson - played with pure fire
Honorable mention - Fisk, Williams, Tony C., Boomer Scott
Active players - Jeter, Damon, Schilling
When I was a kid, we played ball every chance we had in a vacant lot behind a neighborhood grocery. There were no adults, no umpires, no organization just a love of the game that I just don't see in kids today. Maybe because we grew up poor and it was all we had.

04-25-2005, 06:44 AM
Why am I a baseball fan? In 1975 when I was 7 years old my family moved from north of Boston to north of Cincinnati. Again, it was 1975. The world series between my 2 'home teams' was, and is, the best of my lifetime (I know, '91 was better, but not for me). All ball players are larger than life when you're 7, but that series had Perez, Morgan, Rose, Bench, Concepcion, Yaz, Lynn, Fisk, Petrocelli, Tiant, Bill Lee, game 6, etc, etc, etc. Great players, great games, great series. I've been a fan ever since.

'76 - Reds sweep Phillies in 3, Yankees in 4. First series with the DH, Reds use only 9 hitters in the entire series (8 regulars, plus Driessen at DH).
'90 - arrogant A's fans show up at the airport with brooms. Reds sweep A's.
'05 - I'm not ashamed to say I cried when Keith Foulke threw to first for the final out.

stats are fun, what-ifs are fun and baseball has the best history of any sport (the best history of anything short of war), but I'm a baseball fan because of playoffs and world series.
not to make anyone feel old, but I was born in the summer of '67 (and I know I'm old)

04-25-2005, 06:53 AM
I'm kinda new here, so I'll throw this up...


27 years old.

Originally from Pittsburgh, PA. Now live in Arlington, VA (just outside DC).

I'm an Enterprise/Software Engineer for a company that contracts out to the US military.

Graduated from Penn State University in 1999 with a BS degree in Management Science and Information Systems. Before that, I went to Woodland Hills High School, located in the east suburbs of Pittsburgh.

I follow and enjoy a ton of sports, but my favorites are baseball, hockey, college and pro football, and boxing. I'm a huge fan of all Pittsburgh professional sports (Pirates, Penguins, Steelers) and Penn State football. I hate the Pitt Panthers. :D

Favorite baseball players (past): Dizzy Dean, Jimmie Foxx, Honus Wagner, Ty Cobb, Joe Jackson, and Ted Williams.

Favorite baseball players (present): Oliver Perez, Jason Bay, Jim Thome, and Todd Helton.

Favorite hockey players (past and present): Steve Yzerman, Mario Lemieux, Mike Bossy, and Mark Recchi.

Main interest outside of sports: Las Vegas.

Favorite movies: St. Elmo's Fire, Die Hard, Oceans 11 (remake), Goodfellas, Bad Boys II, Touch and Go, Tango & Cash, Vegas Vacation, Bull Durham, Brain Donors, The Breakfast Club, Field of Dreams, Major League, and anything with the Marx Brothers in it.

Favorite musical groups: Better Than Ezra, Guns 'N Roses, Def Leppard, KISS, Iron Maiden, Toby Keith, Terri Clark, Billy Joel, and Alice in Chains.

Favorite books: The Teammates, The Black Prince of Baseball, Eight Men Out, and anything by Tony Kornheiser.

Ballparks I've been to: PNC Park, Three Rivers Stadium, Veterans Stadium, Citizen's Bank Ballpark, Fenway Park, Shea Stadium, Yankee Stadium, RFK Stadium, and Jacob's Field.

That's all I can think of right now. :)
Big 80's metal fan and big current country fan. And I threw in a couple 90s groups as well that I listen to a lot. Plus, Joel is a classic.

04-25-2005, 08:43 AM
Let’s see...whaddaya wanna know....
I like the anonymity of the internet, which is why I never use my real name, but I’ve gotten used to being called 2Chance.

I was born in Detroit in 1960, and my family moved every year for the first ten years, then I repeated this several times during the early ‘80s recession, and have settled in west central Ohio. It was kind of neat living in San Diego at an age that I was learning to speak English and Spanish at the same time. That also made for four easy credits in High School. I like to travel and have seen 37 or 38 states, Canada and Mexico, and lived in about 8 states.

My dad told me one time that it’s a wonder boys ever grow up to be men, and that is very true in my case. Among other things, I’m retired from the business of smart-mouthed drunk and skirt-chaser. Nobody I know believes that I was ever any of that. That is the difference described in 2 Cor. 5:17. You could look it up, ask me any questions you want about it via PM or email; this is a baseball board and otherwise I won’t talk about it here.

By birth and vocation, printing is my trade. But some people consider me more of a computer geek. The industry has changed a lot; you could pick either one and not be far off.

I like all kinds of music, but especially rock & roll from the 60s & 70s. The Beatles. Three Dog Night. CCR. Jazz & Blues are frequently on my playlist.

I read a lot of nonfiction, baseball books and biographies mostly, but definitely an eclectic mix; but also like to mix in mysteries, spy novels or caper novels from time to time. A book a week is about average.

How I got interested in baseball....after a bunch of moving around, I noticed the Tigers in the 1968 World Series. Hey, Detroit! It made me feel like home, a feeling that had been kind of missing for five years. An older friend got me set up with a bat, ball, glove and learning about the game & how to play it, and I was hooked. When we moved from LA to Ohio I became a Reds fan because my dad got us box seats a few times a year, and the Big Red Machine was a pretty big deal. In case you’re wondering, I quit being a Reds fan the day they traded Tony Perez. But the Tigers have been able to keep my loyalty no matter what kind of stupidity they pulled over the years. I guess it’s always different with your first love.

Speaking of first love...I’ve been married since 1984. We were friends first and that makes a big difference. Since you were debating it, I have to say she’s beautiful and intelligent, which doesn’t explain why she hangs with me. Maybe it’s because I know how lucky I am and don’t miss a chance to tell her. Or because she’s a good person and takes pity on me. Who knows?

Lima? That's where we stop off for lunch on the way to Tigers games. They treat us like regulars at the Red Lobster even though it's only once or twice a year. That's probably why we stop there most often; we've been to some of the other restaurants on that row (second place probably goes to Texas Roadhouse), but the people at Red Lobster are the best.:clapping

While we're on the subject of Lima, I'd like to bring up--for you native & adoptive Buckeyes--when I was a kid, we used to go camping at a place near West Liberty (just south of Bellefontaine), and one of the dads was supposed to take us to town for something. Well, none of us were from around there, and he got turned around and that's where we ended up. Lima. :)

So, back to food...a little yin for the yang here, I LOVE seafood. It's my favorite. Don't know whether that came from my youth, when I spent my summers fishing at Lobdell Lake MI (I doubt it), or earlier than that, living in San Diego & LA where the good stuff is plentiful, or maybe later, when I was traveling the country and fell in love with MD & their famous crabcakes.

I too would finish (or pre-empt) any meal with chocolate.

Caffeine messes me up too, not that it's been stopping me lately, and my diet for most of the last year has consisted almost entirely of salads, grilled chicken, and the occasional grilled fish. (More chocolate, please!!)

I'm not into Idols, American or otherwise, but have to admit Carrie Underwood is doing really well, and probably the only one I sat all the way through, Bo Bice, does my kind of music and at the time I thought pretty well.

Voting for Baseball Commissioners and Popes, for right now I'll say "None of the above." I'd have to do more thinking before supporting specific Supreme Court Justices, but on this bench I'm inclined to follow Sockeye.

04-25-2005, 01:45 PM
Heartfelt best wishes, Mr. Burgess, on a fast and as-full-as-possible recovery from your medical issues. Like most of us, I've had a few life-threateners, and it is those who care about you who are able to support your own determination to survive.

I'm 42, trying to finish a doctoral degree in environmental (green) marketing. I've a BA from Berkeley, a Masters from Thunderbird (AZ), have studied/taught in the US, Australia, Thailand, Venezuela, Switzerland, have worked in sales/marketing in the Pacific Northwest and Canada. I've been a huge baseball fan since the days of cards with bad pink gum (gave away my 3000+ card collection to a young self-professed collector who sold them the next day, dang him for eternity), since my non-fan dad taught me to play catch and took me to a Tucson Toros minor league game, since my obsession with triviata found such a perfect storm of an outlet. I've transferred my fascination to other sports, at times, from either convenience or necessity (cricket, in Oz; and how 'bout them Niners, I've been a fan since Norm Snead was the import QB, watched the end of Brodie, of Spurrier, saw OJ run, don't even go to the bandwagon jumping comments with me; even followed the W's since the days of Phil Smith and his ilk, never could stand Rick Barry).

I live in Yountville, near Napa, CA, like fine wine, my golden retriever puppy Mulligan, would willingly give up a major appendage to have the thesis finished, love the G'ints new park, eventually will wind up either as a professor, again, or a marketing manager, probably in the wine industry. Nice place to live, near a vineyard. Lived in Mr. Burgess' neck of the woods (Santa Clara, Mountain View, Cupertino, Sunnyvale) for some time, have also lived in SoCal (born there), AZ, FL, WA, Aust., and all over Bay Area.

Pues, es bastante por mi vida sin loco. Again, get well soon.

addendum on Dad: On Fathers, briefly
My father is my hero.

Born in the '20s, lost his pop early, only really knew his step-dad. Joined the Marines, in WWII and Korea (Frozen Chosin). Cross country on motorcycle, door-to-door salesman, mattresses to Levi's on time in Watts (LA), became an attorney, first defense then prosecutor, then a judge, now retired and living on multiple pensions, all earned, and investments. The best man I ever hope to know, funky enough to invent creative sentencing in California and to pick out the National Enquirer at the supermarket checkout. A negotiator, a hunkerer, a communicator, a man to treasure, and to emulate.

My father is my hero.

04-25-2005, 03:58 PM
first i want to say that i've really enjoyed reading this thread so far.

alright, my turn...

name: mike
age: 23
born november 28, 1981 in west covina, ca

my family moved to st. charles, mo before i was a year old. i don't remember califnornia at all.

i've always have really enjoyed watching and playing baseball. one of my earlier memories is the cardinals playing the san francisco giants in the 1987 NLCS. in st. louis, baseball is as much a part of your life as anything. because of this, i can't remember a defining moment that really pulled me into the game. it's what we always played as kids. another member mentioned playing games with two to a team. my friend and i used to play one on one baseball. we changed the rules a little bit, but it was a blast.

i've gone to private schools my entire life. first it was immanuel lutheran and then lutheran high school (care to make a guess to what my religious background is? occasionally i've posted that i am half jewish, but that's just an inside joke between a friend and myself) both of which are in the st. charles area. after high school, i enrolled at saint louis university. i'll be graduating (3 weeks!) with a bachelor's of science in business administration with majors management and accounting.

i have a fairly shy personality. i have always had a bit of trouble making friends. it has turned me into a bit of a cynic, so i apologize for any ignorant comments i've made to anyone on this board. chances are it was not deserved.

i played three sports in high school. surprisingly, baseball was not one of them. i lost a lot of interest in the game while i was in high school. i followed casually, but not as closely as i had throughout my childhood. i was much more interested in soccer, basketball, and roller hockey which were the sports i played during my high school years. although i have always loved sports, i find them extremely frustrating. i am what you would call a practice player. when there isn't any pressure on, i am one of the best players on the team. this was the case with basketball, and to a greater extent the case with baseball. i am sure this is what caused me to drift away from the game. i played my last game in the seventh grade. it's a shame because i have a hell of a strong arm. my coaches always tried to stick me in at pitcher, but i never developed the mental toughness that you need to excel at the position. i once hit two batters and walked two in one inning, but still struck out the side. i was clocked at 80 mph when i was 13. you may shrug this off, but i was only 5'2, 110 lbs at the time. the other day a friend of mine and i were playing long toss, and i gunned a throw that traveled approximately 330 feet on the fly. i guess it wasn't meant to be.

i didn't regain a strong interest in baseball until five years ago when i stumbled upon the baseball almanac. over time, baseball turned back into an obsession. i still think the almanac is one of the best websites on the internet. i can't imagine how much work goes into maintaining that site. my hat's off to sean for doing a hell of a job with it.

as far as my interests go, i am a big star wars nerd. the original trilogy is easily my favorite movie series. i also enjoy watching laurel and hardy movies, as long as they are from the hal roach years. i really enjoy john hughes' movies too. i am also a saturday night live junky, despite the show sucking for last several seasons. my favorite semi-serious movie is either the graduate or rain man.

i don't read many books, but i read a lot. i really enjoy reading the news. if i am going to read a book, it's more than likely going to be about history or baseball, or even better, baseball history. with music, i really enjoy listening to nirvana and the smashing pumpkins, although i have really a developed a liking for the beatles over the last two years or so. overall, i will listen to just about anything from new wave to sinatra. no rap or country though, please.

it's really hard to pinpoint who my favorite players are. my favorite players of yesteryear have to include musial, gehrig, koufax, frisch, gibson, hershiser, and gooden. i honestly like every single current player on the cardinals, but my favorite is jason marquis. my favorite non-cardinals who are currently playing are hank blalock, curt schilling, derek jeter, lance berkman, and roger clemens.

alright, this is getting to be ridiculously long, but i know i could go on some more. i'll spare everyone from that though.
hey guys, i just wanted to share some news with you. i now have a full-time job with a minor league baseball team.

i'm still on cloud nine. i have tried like hell for the last year and a half to get my foot in the door with a baseball team via an internship. i hadn't any luck at all. christ, i didn't even have any interviews. i did get a pile of rejection letters though. two mlb general managers did send me personal letters, and that was nice of them. it gave me a little extra push at the time, but reality began to quickly set in this summer. i figured it was time to pursue a realistic career.

i graduated in may, and since i've been home, i've put my name in for only one baseball job. i didn't think anything of it, and figured what the hell, why not take one more shot? almost two months passed before i got a call. this team is out on the east coast, so of course they called me at 8am central time, and caught me in a dead sleep. as soon as i heard who it was on the phone, i perked right up. i felt good about our phone interview, but still figured my chances were slim since i currently live about 1000 miles away from where this team is located. anyways, this past monday, i followed up on the phone interview. that's all, just a short follow-up. i wanted to let them know i was still interested in the position.

so yesterday, i received another call from them. this time it was their general manager offering me the job. i was shocked. we both got a good laugh at my expense because his news left me stuttering and stammering like crazy.

moving away from home is very intimidating and exciting at the same time. i'm sure it will be a very huge adjustment for me. anyways, i just wanted to share this with you all.

it's funny how things work out sometimes. i'm blessed.
Tonjes offers these Pet Peeves:

1. handicapped drivers. you may have some sort of physical hindrance, but your arms work, your brain functions, you can apply pressure to a pedal, what's the problem? why do you have to drive 35 in a 40?
2. the NBA. thugs have completely hijacked this once great league and have turned it into a street ball circus. thank god for Tim Duncan.
3. feminists. i am woman, hear me roar. enough said.
4. hostile Cobbie and royal fans. bitterness won't get you anywhere.
5. bbf isn't compatible with mozilla.
6. FM radio. we don't have any good music stations in st. Louis. i can't believe people like this linkin park and breaking Benjamin crap.
7. Katie Couric. little chicken hawk.
8. poor spelling. it drives me insane. I'm embarrassed to say this, but i have friends who are seniors in college that consistently make mistakes like spelling out I'll as "all" and "ussume" as assume. (of course, i probably have a few spelling mistakes in this post now that I've put this down.)
9. espn's baseball coverage. why don't they just rename sportscenter Yankees/red sox highlights?
10. fat people who sit around feeling sorry for themselves.
11. stinky feet.
12. snoring.
13. people who refuse to have a drink with you. ZzZzZz. I'm not talking about people who have legitimate reasons, ie drinking problems. I'm talking about mollycoddles. also, having a drink does not mean drinking to excess. relax a little, have a drink, and enjoy life.
14. small tippers.
15. hack comedians. Paul reiser, tom Arnold, Harold ramis, Howie Mandel, ant, Paula poundstone, etc.
16. Christian pop/rock music. i hear some emergency rooms are now using certain songs to induce vomiting in kids who have ingested household cleaners.
17. college-aged political activists. why does everything leave you so d*MN "outraged"? and please, hardly anyone takes your insignificant protests seriously.
18. over-the-top new York accents. just plain obnoxious.
19. drivers who sit in the fast lane and refuse to let you pass.
20. men who go to tanning salons. most people assume these guys are homosexual, and that's unfair to homosexuals.
21. people who chew with their mouth open.
22. dogs that lick. disgusting.
23. Texans. relax a little down there.
24. excessively flying the flag at half staff. this should be done rarely, yet it seems like we're doing this all the time. we need to be more selective.
25. men who frequent strip clubs.

04-25-2005, 04:18 PM
Born: March 22, 1948. Champaign, Ill. First residence was quonset hut while dad finished MA degree at University of Illinois.
1949-66 Quincy, Illinois
1966-70: Champaign-Urbana, Illinois: U of I student. BA in English
1970-71: Detroit
1971-72 East Lansing, Michigan. Grad work at MSU in special education for Emotionally Disturbed
1972- 77 Carrollton, Georgia (hour west of Atlanta)
1977-98 Tuba City, Arizona (on Navajo Reservation)
1998- present Phoenix

I came by my BB passion from Dad (the one area that we could actually agree on) and taking in St. Louis Cardinals games broadcast by Harry Caray and Jack Buck. How ANYONE could follow the Cardinals through Harry and NOT develop a baseball passion is unfathomable. I played neighborhood ball as a kid and 2nd base for a Little League team until I would've had to go to a "scary" Legion League that I knew that I wasn't good enough for... (Though I wish I had tried again after 7th grade after being fitted with very necessary glasses... might've been able to actually see pitched balls better)

We lived 2 hours north of St. Louis and made an annual summer venture to the big city... to take in a Cardinals game, a Muny Opera, and the traditional visit to Forest Park for the Zoo or Art Museum. I know that we started this in the mid 1950's, and always a great thrill to see Stan at Sportsman's Park. I do remember getting more serious about following baseball in 1957 since I remember intently watching the World Series and rooting heavily for the Braves against the hated Yankees.

Of course the childhood dream was to play for the Cardinals, but that later became a more reasonable desire to live in/near St. Louis to attend more Cardinals games. That didn't work out, but I did get chances to live near Tiger Stadium, then an hour away from Fulton County Stadium, and finally just 20 min. from downtown Phoenix when the Dbacks came into existence. Perhaps not coincidental that 1998 was the year I moved to the valley.

Work:1965 - 70 summer work jobs included Boy Scout camp nature counselor, Post Office work, door to door Bible salesman in Oklahoma
1970-71 Detroit. High school English teacher
1972 - 77 Teacher for emotionally disturbed/behavior disordered
1977 - 98 English teacher, Tuba City High School. Also coached chess team for 13 years, winning state championship four times
1998 - present Aries Technologies--writer/editor IT instructional materials

Favorite Ballplayers: Musial, Bob Gibson, Curt Flood, Lou Brock, Eddie Mathews, Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Ozzie Smith, Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Craig Counsell, Albert Pujols, Scott Rolen

Favorite Movies: Casablanca, The 400 Blows, Psycho, Notorious, North by Northwest, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, LOR trilogy, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Goodfellas, Last Temptation of Christ, Fellini's 8 1/2, Amarcord, Sunset Blvd, Los Olvidados, Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Wild Strawberries, Blue Velvet, and far too many more to list

Favorite Rock Bands: Bob Dylan, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, Dire Straits, U2, Dylan, Dylan, and more Dylan

Favorite Blues Artists: Buddy Guy, Koko Taylor, Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Lightnin' Hopkins, Shemekia Copeland

Favorite Athletes: Tiger Woods, Gary Kasparov, Walter Payton, Dick Butkus, Arnold Palmer, Magic Johnson

Favorite Movie Directors: Hitchcock, Truffaut, Fellini, Scorsese, Bunuel, Kubrick, Kurosawa, Ozu, Igmar Bergman

Favorite Books::
Walden, by Henry David Thoreau
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain
The Scarlet Letter, by Nathaniel Hawthorne

Favorite Baseball Books::
Cobb, by Al Stump
The Glory of Their Times by Lawrence Ritter
Summer of '49 by David Halberstam
You're Missin' a Great Game by Whitey Herzog
Babe: The Legend Comes to Life by Robert Creamer

Was I really here moments::
1. 2001 World Series -- all four games at Bank One Ballpark (game 7 is for the ages!!!)
2. 1990 -- NYC: opening two games between world chess champion Anatoly Karpov vs. challenger Garry Kasparov
3. 2004 Sundance Festival -- first time, but certain to return
4. 2005 Cannes Film Festival -- upcoming in May. Waiting to see if I get a press credential, but it looks promising right now
5. 1968 Opening Day at Wrigley vs. Cardinals -- wearing my Cards cap in the bleachers
6. 2004 -- final two regular season games vs. Yankees at Fenway Park; too much fun--am returning for final 3 game series this year
7. 1979 -- June pilgrimage to Israel. Jerusalem, Haifa, Akka
9. Cooperstown, 2000 followed by a Saturday night at Shea to watch the Cards win their only playoff game that year against the Mets

Favorite concert experiences:: Dylan (any of the five times I've seen him.. most special was the '74 tour), Buddy Guy (esp. the informal jam during his 59th birthday party at his Legends Club), Rolling Stones 2004, Ramblin' Jack Elliott (in SF 2002), Arlo Guthrie 2002, Chicago Blues Festival 2002, Joan Baez (just before the most recent Iraq War). Bruce Springsteen, Lollapalooza (year with Ministry, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Red Hot Chili Peppers, etc.), Bumbershoot Festival in Seattle (2004)

04-25-2005, 05:25 PM
I'm Frank, I joined BBF about three weeks ago.

Born: 4/19/83, in Taiwan. Moved to the USA in 1994.

Work: Currently I'm a college student, but next weekend I'll take my walk and graduate with a Bachelor of Science in Business Education degree.

Favorite ballplayers: Ichiro, Hideo Nomo, Chin-Hui Tsao, Johan Santana, Jackie Robinson, Cal Ripken jr

Favorite movies: Too many to name

Favorite Basketball Players: Steve Nash, Manu Ginobilli

Favorite Football Players: Michael Vick, Jerry Rice.

04-26-2005, 06:38 AM
Age: 42
Born: Delaware, grew up in Maine
Now Live: Japan for the past 14 years
Education: International Studies, School for International Training, Brattleboro, VT
Employment: I teach English to Japanese people, and do some rewriting of English language documents translated from Japanese.
Hobbies: I spend a lot of time now playing with my kids, now age 8 and 6. And I've always been a media junkie. That used to mean reading a couple newspapers thoroughly every day, now it means surfing the internet and discussing things in various forums. I also like to write song parodies, both silly and controversial. Some of my work is here (http://www.amiright.com/parody/authors/mac195.shtml).

Baseball background: I've been a fan since 1971, the year I first went out for the little league team. After learning to play, I found I could understand what was happening in the MLB games on TV and was fascinated. I loved everything about baseball, especially the stats in the newspaper, and basically spent the entire decade of the 70s playing, watching, listening to or reading about the game. My dad was more a basketball man having been one of the top college players in Maine in the early 60s. But he did take me to Fenway at least two or three times a year. I got more into basketball in the 80s as I had grown to be 6'5", and eventually played for several years on a Japanese team, but have returned to my first love baseball in recent years.

04-26-2005, 07:20 AM
Bill, gem of a thread. :clapping I'll try to follow preceding formats.

Born: July 31, 1960, (yes, the same day as Cleveland Municipal Stadium, not quite the same year :laugh , and also the trading deadline. Fortunately, my mom didn't trade me), 1960 (closest birthdate to decent big leaguer is Mike Witt and Terry Pendleton), in Akron, OH (birthplace of Munson, Woodling, Knepper)

Youth: went to west Akron school system (went to same high school but after the Pretenders' Chryssie Hynde and before at least one of the guys from Devo. I was only one or two years ahead of Rachel Sweet, who had a duo with Rex Smith (the "You Take My Breath Away" guy). College of Wooster one year, graduated from University of Akron, later at the defunct Cleveland Institute of Technology.

Lived: Akron for basically 26 years (except for the Air Force officers school that didn't work out), Broadview Heights (if anyone's heard of skater Tonia Kwiatkowski) for two years, Maple Heights for nine years (same city as reliever Dale Mohorcic), eight years in Garrettsville.

Baseball passion started: maybe in Boy Scouts, when I grew up in the Ice Age, all ice picks were for righties and everyone wanted me to throw righty. A scout leader said that I'm a natural lefty. I remember catching a line drive barehanded mostly because I was in the way of it, I still wasn't good. First baseball memory is one of the A's World Series in the early 70's. In gym in school, I was catcher because I wasn't good. One guy popped up and he said I'd never catch it. I did and amazed him, but still wasn't good. Finally got my coordination right AFTER high school. My neighbor had Cleveland partial season tickets and took me. I went early to batting practice but after almost two years of catching nothing, I bought one at the gift shop before the game. That night Dave Rosello hit me my first, and more than a hundred have followed since then. Then I started collecting cards in 1981.

Work: Computer programmer & related duties. Used to work fifty feet from where the Akron Aeros minor league park ended up being built.

Favorite players: There are the specialist legends (Ruth), the more five-tool type guys (Mays, Barry Bonds, Schmidt, Cobb, Speaker) and guys of personal integrity (Hershiser, AThornton, Doug Jones, Nolan Ryan, Bob Feller, Jim Thome).

Movies: I'm not much into them except for maybe It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World; Toy Story 1, and stuff like Indiana Jones.

Rock Bands: Kansas, Rush, Yes, older Genesis, Jethro Tull (among names you might have heard), ApologetiX, and glad to see Chryssie Hynde, Devo & James Ingram make it big

Greatest hits CDs: the above, plus the Chicago one where they're painting a building

20th century athletes: Willie Mays, Barry Bonds, Mike Schmidt, Cobb, Speaker, Emmett Smith, Gretzky, Tiger Woods, Renaldo Nehemiah, David Robinson, Bjorn Borg, Earl Anthony.

Basketball: Michael Jordan, David Robinson, my "nephew" LeBron James (hey, we both grew up in Akron :laugh :laugh

Football runners: Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, heard stories about Jim Brown

Books: What are books? :laugh The Bible, Total Baseball :laugh , Bill James' Historical Abstracts

Rock geniuses: Kerry Livgren, Phil Keaggy, Paul McCartney, the guys from the band Chicago, Jeff Lynne (among guys you might have heard)

Skaters: Scott Hamilton (humble but a crowd-pleaser), I better say Carol Heiss-Jenkins since she was my Cub Scout den mother for a while :laugh , Katarina Witt is nice to look at :rolleyes:

Rock Voices: Steve Walsh, Matthew Ward, Mickey Thomas

Rock Songs: Roundabout, Tom Sawyer, Bohemian Rhapsody, Fooling Yourself

Hobbies: mac195, I write song parodies too :D
Collect baseball cards (over 800 different Barry Bonds cards)
Playing softball for church team (good field, no hit)
Working on baseball database-type file (I may start a thread where I can tell guys baseball events that happened on their birthday)
Collecting progressive Christian music

Actors: not big on this, but probably John Ritter, Michael J. Fox, Tom Hanks

Teams: I had to have a real team to root for when growing up so I picked the Reds. Now that the Tribe has at least been to the World Series twice I'll stick with da hometown bums, and hopefully their rebuilding program is working. I've followed the Cleveland Force/Crunch pro indoor soccer team on and off.

TV: Brady Bunch (don't laugh), MASH, Bill Cosby, This Week In Baseball, the clean Monty Python stuff

That's more than anyone would ever want to know.
addendum on Dad:
My dad worked for Goodyear for FORTY-SIX years He said he was lifting 200-pound rolls of rubber, and this at least into the start of his fifties.
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04-26-2005, 12:19 PM
Sorry it has taken me a while to post here, I've been out of town...

Born in 1957 in the same hospital my Dad was born in 1927, the winemaking capitol of the east bay area, Livermore CA

Went to Livermore High, same school that Randy Johnson graduated from. But I like to say that the Unit went to my high school, rather than the other way around! :D I mean, I was there first!

Matriculated at UC Santa Barbara where I got a degree in History. At that time it sure earned it's reputation as a party school, second only perhaps to Chico State! :eek:

As I've said on previous threads, baseball came to me thru my grandfather and my Dad. I always thought that my Grandpa being a fan of Christy Mathewson was cool. He never got to see him play, but because my Great-grandfather was a newspaper owner, Grandpa read all the wire stories about the Big 6, and that got him into the game, and he passed it on to me. Dad just reinforced that.

But to be honest, I never played the game after little league, partly because I was so small I was scared to death at the plate, and partly because I found the game I could be good at, soccer. I happened to find myself on a team that won three straight California State titles and in our last year we ended up fourth in the nation. I now love to watch the USA's National Soccer teams, and frankly I am in awe of the women's team. Mia Hamm is one of those rare athletes like Jordan, Gretzky, Magic Johnson who has the "eye of the tiger" and will bury your team if you give her a chance. Plus, she's an outstanding role model, not just for girls, but for any athlete anywhere. And her presence on the team will be truly missed.

I currently work in Human Resources for a large systems integration firm, specifically handling Pension and 401(k) issues. But before that I worked 20 years in retail management and hated it for most of that time! But I am much happier now.

I am a big fan of the group Chicago, I've seen them in concert well over 20 times since 1975. And RMB, I got to spend an afternoon with most of the members of the group back in 1978, they were pretty cool, especially Danny Seraphine. Also, I love Springsteen. Nov. 6th 1975 the Boss came to UCSB (I have framed the ticket stub!) and played for 4+ hours...frankly ruined the rest of my concert going experiences because nobody has come close to being as good as he was that night. :D

I like all sorts of movies, from silly fun movies like "The Commitments" and "That thing you do!" to great films like "Amadeus" and " 12 Angry Men". But my alltime favorite is the mini-series "Band of Brothers". Great acting and realism by basically a group of unknowns. I watch and rewatch those episodes all the time.

And since my mom, (and my wife for that matter) was a librarian, books have been a big part of my life. And yes, I'll be getting multiple copies of the "Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince" on July 16th. Not because I have two children, but because I love those books. Also, I read a ton of biographies, I love looking into why great people were great. In particular, I am a big fan of Harry Truman, the last honest man to be in the White House. David McCullough's bio of Harry is an outstanding book. But this also means I've read a lot of sports biographies, I have a 1st edition of Al Stump's book on Cobb, and I have recently re-read Jane Leavey's outstanding book on Koufax.

But my biggest challenge in life is dealing with my mixed marriage. My being a lifelong Giants fan, and my wife being a Dodger fan has it's challenges. Most particularly how do we bring up our children, to be righteous Giants fans, or slimy Bums fans!!? :D What we've decided to do is let them choose for themselves, and they seem to be gravitating to the Angels, which is OK by both of us. And if our pal HiddenGem gets the call to the Halo's, he'll have to young fans rooting for him!

And I am very happy to have found BBF, a bunch of good people talking about the National Pastime. What could be better than that? Maybe a Giants WS victory, but not much else!


And one thing that no one would guess about me....I am sort of an expert on Figure Skating. My wife is a big fan, and I sort of picked it up by osmosis. It's easily the most aggravating sport in the world., bar none, and there's a part of me that's mad that I paid attention to it! And RMB, I certainly do know Tonia Kwiatkowski, she's a fine skater, and she was great in that TV special "Christmas Angel".
addendum on Family:
OK Bill, I'll bite on the family stuff...

I'm one of the lucky ones who found a soulmate, just celebrated 17 years of marriage, haven't regretted a minute of it.

I have a 13 year old daughter who's about as unathletic as they come, but she's a brain. One of those kids who can get in trouble for reading too much!

But BBFer's will be happy to know that I am raising my 9 year old son correctly. He's just starting to play ball, but he's knows alot about baseball already from me and MVP Baseball '04! Just today he and I watched the HBO special about The Shot Heard Round the World and I think for the first time he really understood how important it was. As I said in my original post in this thread, he's always grown up with the fact that his parents had a mixed marriage, me a Giants fan, his mom a Dodger fan. So I have had to tread lightly around the subject of Bobby Thomson. But since we live in LA and we have two teams (according to Arte Moreno! ) he's taken a shine to the Angels which is fine with his parents. He really likes Vladimir Guerrero and was really disappointed when David Eckstein left for the Cards. Also, one of my favorite things to do is to share stories out of the wonderful book "The Glory of their Times". My Grandfather gave me that book when I was about his age, and I just loved reading about the silliness of Germany Schaefer and Charles "Victory" Faust, and poor Merkle and Snodgrass, and he's been enjoying them too.
Annie, great post!! Anyone who says they love the movies "Top Secret!" and "Galaxy Quest" is OK in my book!

And I must say I am stunned to see someone state they like the Foxfire series. I loved reading those books, there is just a charm to them, but I've found very few people other than me who has actually read them. But I have to tell you, I worked with a guy who I turned on to those books who became so enamored with them that he thought he'd try to tan the hide of a raccoon that he'd recent caught on his ranch. He followed the instructions and in six months got the biggest, smelliest mess I've ever seen. Somethings perhaps just don't translate well to the 21st Century!
Bill, while I certainly agree that The Doors were a great band, I'm not sure I'd quite go as far as you. Morrison's preoccupation with death imagery can get a little old at times. But I'll say this, Jim Morrison was a totally unique figure in rock and roll, and brought a new face to popular music. We are all in debt to him for that.

To me, the ultimate rock album has to be "Who's Next". Not a bad song on the disc, and features some of the finest crafted rock songs ever made. Add into that mix the really strong lyrics of Pete Townsend (who takes a back seat to few lyrically in my book), and some outstanding musical performances by Moon and Entwistle, and you have just a great piece of classic rock music.

IMO "Classic Rock" Started with Jimi Hendrix "Are you experienced?" and Cream's "Fresh Cream" (sorry all you Yardbird's fans). 1967 changed music in so many ways, but in particular we heard a move away from pure pop of the Beatles and Stones to sounds that featured more instrumental work and showed off the virtuosity of the performers. It's no coincidence that so many groups got their start that year (including the Doors) but to me at least, this is the starting point. The ending point is hard to determine, but you might as well say Classic Rock as we know it died when John Bonham died.


04-26-2005, 08:30 PM
What a great post man...I hope only good health for you from now till forever, glad you are back and posting...I can feel your energy...you have nothing to worry about there.

Born: May 24, 1950 (Bob Dylan, I dont think same year though) Born in Atlanta, GA but moved to Orlando, Fl when I was two. Been here ever since. Dad was also in Military, WWII, Korea...26 years....wasnt home very much, bless his soul, he died an alcoholic, the air force made him sit on Guam for 3 years where he started drinking heavy, Mom raised me most of my life until I thought I could do it myself (Boy was I wrong).
Been in Central Fla all my life, never seen snow at least not on the ground.

Work: 1970-73 mostly construction
1974-1986 Food and Souvenir Manager at the Daytona, Alabama, & Atlanta Speedways (seen some great Nascar races of all time) (Actually drove around Daytona at 167 MPH, I almost **** my pants. Really)
Part-Time 1992-1998: Orlando Magic (Fantasy Play-by-Play engineer)
1986-1993 Envornmental speacialist for Harris Corp. (a military contractor)
1994-1998 Telephone Installer (fiber Optics)
1998-2001 Print Shop Manager for Xerox Corp.
2001-present...Started our own Denim Jeans Company (Gypsy Jeans) have spent more money than I've made so far.

Favorite ballplayers: Bobby Richardson, most any Yankee, Roberto Clemente

Favorite movies: Conspiracy Theory, Young Guns, most westerns (still like the old ones)

Favorite Rock Bands: Beatles, Jimi Hendricks, Grand Funk Railroad, Aerosmith, Led Zep

Favorite Rock CD's: Abbey Road, Rainbow Bridge (I have 2600 old Albums) but not many CDs

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: Beatles Red and Blue

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jim Thorpe, Michael Jordan, Mohammed Ali, Bill Russell (mostly the same as you)

Favorite Basketball Players: Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Shag (met him)

Favorite Football Players: Bob Hayes, Roger Staubach, Johnny U...didnt have many favorite runners except for Jim Brown and Csonka

Favorite Movie Directors: The guy that did Plup Fiction

Favorite Books: Not much of a reader but really enjoyed Babe Ruth's book from 1938

Favorite Sports Books:same as above

Favorite Rock Geniuses: John Lennon, Donovan, Jimi Hendricks, Paul McCartney, Mark Farmer, Elvis

Favorite Ice Skaters: None

Favorite Rock Voices: John Lennon, Tom Petty, Steve Perry, Robert Plant, Donovan

Men I admire of the 20th Century: Any who have done alot for Kids, Martin Luther King, Jimmy Carter

Favorite Mixed Martial Artists of the Ultimate Fighting Championships:
Dont really know any

Technically Best-Made Movies: Terminator, Incredibles

Favorite Rock Tunes: So many whatever I put here I would forget some but any on Abby Road specially the ones that seem to be all connected...carry that weight, polythene pam...you know the ones

Baseball.....Use to sneak away during spring training at 7 to 10 years old and watch the games through a hole in left field of Tinker Field..I think its been in my blood ever since. Some ballplayer ( couldnt tell you who) rubbed my head one day and said I bet you are a pitcher. Funny thing I pitched for a little league team at the time. Whoever it was he was like a God to me at the time. I played through Pony League 14 to 16 years old but never carried it any further. Never went out for baseball in high school probably because in the 60's I was only interested in Mary Jane and Girls. Got caught after high school for transporting Mary Jane (5 kilos) out of Mexico and did about 1 1/2 years in a federal prison but am proud to say I was part of 16% (at the time) that didnt continue a life of crime. I think I could have been great, maybe as good as Richardson if I would have stuck with baseball. Of course thats my ego talking now. Played softball off and on for 10 years had to quit because I didnt know how to slow down....I played every pitch like it was the 7th game of a WS. I almost killed myself at times but never did anyone know. Just walking on a diamond gets my blood flowing like you wouldnt believe. Umpired a few little league games a few years ago and had a ball hit me in the mask behind the plate...and I felt that blood flowing again...it was great. I curse myself weekly for not trying out for baseball in High School.
My mom is still alive at 84 ....she's a die-hard Braves fan and I'm a die-hard Yankees fan so its a bitter war when we get together.

My favorite thing in life: My kids 6 of them....3 step kids and 3 of my own. Twin girls (Kris and Kim) who are 30 this year (I met them when they were 1) 22 year old daughter (Kortney), 16 year old step son (Zachary) (I met him when he was 5), 7 year old daughter (Jessica), and finally my first son 4 years old (Ronald Donovan). Thats two marriages if we are counting.

Thats me in a capsule, I hope I didnt bore you too much...but this was a great way to release and to reflect back on one's life.


PS...It took me forever to read this thread...alot of interesting people and I'm glad I'm part of it.
Bill's response to Ronny:


One of the hardest things to have to live with, is knowing we could have been exceptional at something when we had our chance, and didn't take our shot.

I know. I walked away from my gift - extraordinary rock dancing. After 7 yrs. of balls-to-the-wall honing of a remarkable gift, just when I was arriving at the stage of being able to pass Broadway auditions - I just walked away. It was too hard pychologically. And I've been disappointed with myself ever since. The parable about "burying your talens".

But . . . taking a Providencial view, perhaps that angst is now motivating us to do other things with a compensating passion. I now try to infuse certain, select posts of mine with as much passion, clarity, simplicity & power as I can. I write for the time-capsule. That's why I "sign" all my pieces. I want everyone to know who I am, and try to build my "name recognition".

If I had continued on with my dance career, I'd now be a teacher / choreographer, perhaps director of my own studio. So I now channel my passion into new areas. I like to think I try harder, since giving up my golden dream so long ago. So maybe you're a better parent, because you didn't take your baseball dream shot? Who's to say? We have a lot in common, my friend. God bless your family.

I like your providencial view, your exactly right....I guess we both used that angst to motivate us through a different path and to make a good situation out of what we may have considered a bad decision. Reflecting on this, I'm sure that if I had gone with the passion of baseball....who knows there might not be 6 wonderful people who I can say love me dearly and respect me more than I deserve.
Thanks for the uplift.

04-27-2005, 05:11 AM
Name: Ray
Age: 27
Born: Kenosha, WI
Lived in Kenosha, WI from 1978 to September 1996
Lived in Milwaukee, WI from September 1996 to December 2001
Lived in Chicago from December 2001 - present

School: Jeffrey Elementary for K
Grewenow Elementary for 1-6
Lance Junior High School for 7-9
Tremper High School 10-12
UW - Milwaukee for undergrad degree in Civil Engineering

Work: Civil Engineer

Baseball: Just a fan
Favorite Artists: Iced Earth, U2, Blind Guardian
Favorite Albums: Joshua Tree, Master Of Puppets, The Glorious Burden, the Hellfire Club
Favorite Movie Director: none
Favorite Movies/Documentaries: Lord of the Rings Trilogies, Star Wars Original Trilogy, Terminator
Favorite Teams: Cubs, Bears
Favorite Baseball Players, Other: Maddux, Ryne Sandberg, Ernie Banks, Mark Grace, Roger Clemens, Mark Prior
Favorite TV: Baseball Tonight, Sportscenter
Favorite Books: Wheel of Time series (robert jordan), Honor Harrington books by David Weber

Dad's soon to be 55. Auto Worker (he's a machinist at Chrysler), and while not my hero per se I do look up to him. Mom is 49, shes a housemom (worked part time as an RN for a long time). shes not my hero at all. love her of course, but not my hero.

Pet Peeves: sanctimonious people. People who think their opinions are better than everyone else's. Slow Drivers. loud kids/screaming babies. Extreme Negativity

more update on music. I started with Beach Boys as a young kid. then in high school i got into heavy metal. It progressively got heavier until i liked Death Metal my senior year. I got tired of Cookie Monster vocals, so i went into more traditional versions of metal (Maiden, Megadeth, Motley Crue, Metallica) and also Classical music. My current state of music is stuff that is heavy, tells a story, and symphonic in nature. Symphonic Metal (and power metal) that comes from europe is my favorite, as it combines my favorite types: heavy metal and strong instrumentation.

Bothrops Atrox
04-28-2005, 06:29 AM
Name: Matthew Cornwell
Age: 33
Birthday: October 9
Born and raised in St. Louis Co., currently living in Florissant, Mo.
Married (10 years on May 29th) with two children :)

High School: Pattonville
College: Missouri Baptist University - Majored in Elementary Ed. and psychology, some post-grad in counseling

Occupation: 6th grade teacher - summer camp coordinator

Favorite teams: Cards, Rams, Blues, Tar Heels, Mizzou Tigers , Braves, Steelers, Celtics, Used to like the Quebec Nordiques before they left for Colorodo.

Favorite all-time athletes during my lifetime: Larry Bird, Ozzie Smith, Albert Pujols, Brett Hull, Al MaCinnins, Maddux-Glavine-Smoltz, Jim Edmonds, Jack Clark, Tony Pena, Marshal Faulk, Isaac Bruce, Kurt Warner, Tory Holt, Adam Oates, Vince Carter, Charles Barkley, Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, Frank Thomas, Chris Pronger, Steve Nash, Kevin Garnett

Favorite athletes before my lifetime: Stan Musial, Bob Gibson, Steve Carlton, Tom Seaver, Bob Cousy, Glen Hall, Bill Russell, Jauque Plante, Bernie Federko, Marcel Dionne, Peter Stastny

Least favorite teams: Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox, Blackhawks, Red Wings, 49ers, Cowboys, Lakers, Sac. Kings, Duke, Wake Forest, Kansas, Kentucky

Least favorite athletes (Sports figures): Kerry Wood, Dusty Baker, Carlos Zambrono, Vlade Divac, Kobe Bryant, Jason Williams, Leanard Little, anybody who has ever played at Duke (with the exception of Grant Hill.) esp. J.J. Reddick, Curt Schilling, Kevin Brown, Moises Alou, Roger Clemens, Lloyd McClendon, Nyger Morgan

Favorite music artists: Beatles, U2, Police, George Strait, REM, Rogers and Hammerstein, Christopher Cross, Nirvana, Van Halen, Tom Petty, Guns N' Roses, Pink Floyd, Wu Tang, Tchaikovski, G. Rossini, Prokofiev, Randy Travis, Stevie Wonder, Muddy Waters, Nick Drake, Bon Iver, Maxwell, Erika Badu, iron and Wine, Band of Horses, Dwight Yokam, the Jungle Brothers, They Might Be Giants, Wu Tang,

Favorite albums: Achtung Baby, Abbey Road, Automatic For The People, The Unforgettable Fire, The Wall, Nevermind, Clear Blue Sky,The White Album, Laid (James), Synchronicity, Illmatic, Up, Wildflowers

Favorite Books: The History of Tom Jones, The Things They Carried, Cat's Cradle, Native Son, The Bean Trees, Death of a Salesman, The Great Gatsby, Anna Korenena, Great Expectations, Thr Giver

Favorite Movies: Bond...James Bond. My favorite 5: 1. OHMSS 2. From Russia With Love
3. Casino Royalle 4. Thunderball 5. The Spy Who Loved Me. 6. Sky all

Hobbies and more: I adore music, and am an accomplished sax player (at least I think so). I love to serve in my Church. I love spending time with my wife and boys and of course , I love sports. Baseball and basketball are my favorites, with football and hockey right behind. I am an avid herpetology enthusiast, but my wife won't let me go into herpetology. :). Hence my name.

04-29-2005, 12:49 PM
Not sure anybody really cares, but this is fun

Born: Err... lets just say I'm proud to put a 3 in front of the second number... but not for much longer :(

Born in: Vermont. Kind of boring. Lived in Philly, New York City, Boston, Miami, Orlando, Houston, and, for most of my life, in DETROIT

Work: Been a pilot since I was 14, a mechanic since I was 20, been flying both commercial and cargo for many years now (typed in DC8, DC9, 727 - also time in Airbus A320 family equipment, amongst many TP jobs paying my dues). Edging more towards a desk job nowadays, trying to spend more time at home (not a lot of luck there).

Favorite ballplayers: Ty Cobb, Alan Trammell, Ted Williams, Walter Johnson, Mickey Lolich are my favorites of all-time.

Favorite current ballplayers: Roger Clemens, Pedro Martinez, Kerry Wood, Jeremy Bonderman, Raffi Palmeiro, Vlad Guerrero, Dimitri Young, Brandon Inge.

Favorite movies: Field of Dreams, any Kubrick movie, Star Wars trilogy, Garden State

Favorite Rock Bands: Errr... not a lot there. Pink Floyd is great but as a rule I can't stand rock.

Favorite Rock CD's: Tough again, but Wish you were Here and Division Bell

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: Chris Ledoux, 2Pac, Hank Williams Senior, Willie Nelson

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Ty Cobb, Ted Williams, Dale Earnhardt, David Pearson

Favorite Basketball Players: Bill Russell, Larry Bird

Favorite Football Players:I can't STAND football

Favorite Movie Directors: Stanley Kubrick

Favorite Books: Any Hemmingway, Farewell to Arms is my favorite.

Favorite Sports Books:Cobb, Al Stump

Favorite Rock Geniuses: Err, enough of the rock questions :grouchy ... favorite musical Geniuses of the 20th-21st century: Willie Nelson, Hank Williams Senior, Tupac Shakur, EPMD, Dr Dre, Mike Clark, Frank Sinatra, Miles Davis

Favorite Ice Skaters: My wife :)

Favorite Rock Voices: None, can't stand rock

Men I admire of the 20th Century: Churchill, my Father

Favorite Mixed Martial Artists of the Ultimate Fighting Championships: That one guy who kicks a lot

Technically Best-Made Movies: Errrr?

Favorite Rock Tunes: We're obsessed with rock here...

Baseball..... My Grandfather played for a team in Arkansas in the early 1900s, my father played and was pretty good, turned down a contract so that he could go to college... Baseball has always been a huge part of my life. I played through High School and into college, where I realized that my knuckleball needed to go over 45 and my fastball needed to go over 80 if I'd have any success whatsoever. It never did. I've had Tigers season tickets for 18 years now, even when I didnt live in Detroit, I'd make a point to make it to at least 20-30 games a year. I'm a ravenous Tigers fan, like my father before me, and support most other original 16 teams. I hate every team that plays in a dome :)

My favorite thing in life: My wife, my kids, my dog, my cat, my racing, my flying, and my baseball :)

04-29-2005, 04:14 PM
Don't have time to read, but why not:
Name: Doug Fowler
Age: 35
Live in: N.E. Ohio, lived there all my life.

School: Harter Elementary (1-6th), Souers Middle (7-9th), McKinley Sr. High (10-12), College of Wooster (Wooster, Ohio), Case Western Reserve Law School (Cleveland), now after 10 years correspondence courses through Temple Baptist Seminary (Chattanooga)

I have 20/800 vision, meaning I can't read unless it's real close to my face, but can read normal print like this a couple inches away. I also have 25% hearing in one ear, 75% that can be put up to 100% w/a hearing aid in the other. I have a small bit of cerebral palsy, enough so I have limited strength, most I ever benched pressed was about 80, but I walk okay. Also possibly a small bit of Asperger's Syndrome or something similar, but not much if any, it's like my CP; I basically have a little trouble figuring out body language, etc., am also a bit hypersensitive, but I'm not too bad with social social contact & make friends fairly easy, which makes me think that maybe the symptoms I have that look like that are instead just something due to my low vision and stuff. However, I've had major passions before like some Asperger's people do, like the planets when I was younger, or the Presidents then (I knew them in order in 3rd grade) - and like baseball was in my teen years. I only started wondering about the Asperger's when I heard of a couple on line friends who have it, so I wouldn't say it's real likely, just possible to explain some things. Oh, and I collected 150+ stuffed animals and still have 125 stuffed dogs and about 10 other stuffed animals in the attic of my home, which I own and maintain myself pretty well, except I need my folks to do things like gardening b/c I could never see to get gas in a mower, etc.

Work: Owned my own law practice out of my house for 10 years, current, it's quite slow, but nobody would hire me right out of school, and I never had the money to rent a place. I have learned what I suspected, that I hate litigation, but I've also grown more spiritually to the point I am changing careers. I would just rather do more with helping people spiritually, as helping w/law only goes so far. I have had a good wills and estates practice for a while, though.

Favorite ballplayers: Andre Thornton, Honus Wagner, Cal Ripken Jr., Roberto Clemente, Willie Mays, Jackie Robinson, Charlie Brown & the rest of his team in no real order

Favorite current ballplayers: Tough to say. I don't follow quite as close as I did, though I still like Omar Vizquel & Manny Ramirez as they're former Indians, plus a few of the current ones..

Favorite movies: Airplane, Field of Dreams, The Natural, Apollo 13

Favorite Rock: Not into music - I mean it, I listened on the radio some, to our Oldies station, but mostly for the sports, & while I liked some soft rock as a teen except for Gospel songs I don't really have any music I'm big on.

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: The '85 Bears - they made a lot of 'em :-)

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Brett Favre, Jackie Robinson,

Favorite Basketball Players: Don't follow it much, but Chris Snow went to my high school - I think it's Chris. Precy, his older brother, was a year ahead of me, or maybe two; he played for football's Chiefs, I think.

Favorite Football Players: Anyone on the Packers

Favorite Movie Directors: Don't pay attention to directors'/performers' names; here's another little thing that might indicate Asperger's, I'm much more in tune to the fictional universes that are created by a writer/creator, and the little idiosyncrasies of these universes. It's what helps me as a writer, too.

Favorite Books: The Bible, some baseball books, any Agatha Christie mystery

Favorite Sports Books: Any of the Baseball Abstracts, The Man Who Brought the Dodgers Back to Brooklyn (always my dream)

Favorite Rock Geniuses: Don't know any famous geologists :-) (Okay, I know what you meant, but I had to say that - hey, you had to figure w/my favorite movie being Airplane)

Favorite Ice Skaters: None that I know of

Favorite Rock Voices: The only rock I know is Zoe's pet rock on Sesame Street, and one of the gags 'I've heard is that it doesn't have a voice, he's just a rock.

Men I admire of the 20th Century: Churchill, my grandfather, Jackie Robinson, our church's late Pastor, Harold Henniger - a great man of God, one of the nicest men you'd ever meet

Favorite Mixed Martial Artists of the Ultimate Fighting Championships: That one guy who kicks a lot

I kept this in b/c it sounds like my kind of joke, as you can tell

Baseball..... Charlie Brown got me started, I was reading when I was 3, though always had 20/800 vision it never stopped me. I thought the concept was pretty cool, & as I grew in the late '70s I learned more and more of the history, but was really into other stuff till the early '80s when I became obsessed w/it, 1982 was the first seson I really followed, & from then on I didn't stop till college, when I slowed down. Souers is my adopted Jr. High, and that's all I'll say, except that baseball was a key part of helping me have something positive to focus on for a few years.
I played baseball for blind/legally blind kids called "beeper ball" from when I was 5 or 6 to my high school years, & loved it. I also had season tickets to the AA Canton-Akron Indians for the 1989-1992 seasons, & saw lots of great games. Those Indians' minor league teams always seemed to mount great comebacks in the last inning or innings.
Lost interest someone after '94, but the Tribe still kept my interest. Regained a fair amount of interest after the Sox' comeback in 2004, but now it's just moderate, like my grandpa's was (he was really my dad to me, my biological one having divorced my mom at 18 months, I never saw him again, he died when I was 15.) My grandpa always followed the local team, knew a few major stars, & enjoyed following at playoff time, except I won't follow if the Yankees are in the Series.

My favorite thing in life: Know the Lord Jesus Christ as my Savior. Writing in my spare time, a couple Print On Demand books plus fanfiction; even some Peanuts fanfic. I'm the author named "Me" on fanfiction.net; best to look in the Peanuts' section or something else where I have some recent ones, like Full House.

04-30-2005, 04:44 PM
Bill, et al... And I will try not to stray too far, from baseball... In 1967 I am 12-13 yrs old,

My brother is 15-16, (A Big fan of the Twins) I have grown up with a very poor Red-Sox teams...

Some favorites are Yaz, (of course) Rico, Boomer, Tony C., The Rookies Mike Andrews, and Reggie Smith, My fav Sox hurler (Earl Wilson) was dispatched to Detroit in the off-season. Bill Monboquette (another early favorite...Is On the Yankees). (I have No Expectations for Boston to do well, so I "bet" my brother a summer's worth of yard work (mowing, trimming, etc.... My Mom was a widow).

The bet is whoever was in first place each week by Sunday would mow the lawn, rake, water garden, etc. My Brother takes "the bet" and assumes the Twins, will be strong-again, 1964-65-66...

Well at this point, I've been used by him enuff, and figure that This might be the yr. of the Sox....problem is...I Changed them, lol.... From Red to White ....

There are thousands more words to say, and if I'm allowed on BBF I will share more....take care, good health. (Baseball Fever Rules).... John :radio
Addendum for Dad:
As far as my dad goes, well he "Moon-lighted" as a weelend reporter for the Providence Journal, and mainly his "beat" was Hi-School sports. And I assume, a semi-pro" Industrial" fast-pitch softball league.

I was about 6 yrs old when he died..

I remember taking a train from where I live, to go to the Journal in Providence.

The team from Providence was darn good, as I recall, and I seem to recall a "Big-Rival" was a team called Raybestoes, and they wore the exact same uniforms of the St.Louis Cardinals.

The first game if ever saw for MLB was in the summer of 1960, and as a young child, I guess I badgered my dad for hotdogs, souvenirs, whatever...I am very sure...This was a game at Fenway vs. The Tigers...It remains very clear in my mind as I Whined for his "attention", that he told me to quit it, because Ted Williams, was coming up that inning.. That man knew he was seeing "his legend" in "his last hurrah".....But he taught me something that day..

He planted the seed. 45 yrs later, ..... It grew....

Johnny Ghost(Jamestown,RI)

Iron Jaw
05-01-2005, 10:40 PM
Name: Iron Jaw (Mike)

Age: 49......er, um.....I've been 29 twenty times. :D

Born in Steelville, Missouri. Grew up mostly in Colorado.

Married in 1990 (at age 34 - for the first time). Two kids, a boy and a girl.

Occupation: U.S. Border Patrol Supervisor - I've been with the patrol 18 years.

Previous Occupations: Teacher (Junior High), hard rock miner, ski instructor (snow).

Military Service: U.S. Marine Corps, active duty enlisted, 1974-77, U.S. Marine Corps Reserve, 1981-87, Commissioned Officer.

Education: B.A., Fort Lewis College (Colorado), 1980 (I attended another college for 1-year prior to joining the Corps). High School grad, 1973.

High School Sports: Football (All Conference twice), Wrestling (1973 Colorado state champ), Baseball (catcher-1b).

College Sports: I played football and wrestled all four years. RMAC wrestling champ 1980.

Hobbies: Weightlifting, running, wrestling/grappling, skiing (snow), coaching little league baseball.

Became a baseball fan: 1961. My father was a Cardinal fan. I quickly became one too. When I found out that my grandfather was affiliated with the St. Louis Browns during his minor league career, I also became an Oriole fan.

Favorite baseball players: Ken Boyer, Brooks Robinson, Frank Robinson, Stan Musial, Bill White, Bob Gibson, Tim McCarver, Dave McNally, Jim Gentile, Boog Powell, Dick Groat, Curt Simmons, Mike Cuellar, Moe Drabowsky, Ted Simmons, Jim Palmer, Milt Pappas.

Favorite baseball seasons: 1964, 1966, 1967, 1970.

Favorite teams in other sports: Pro Football - Denver Broncos. College Football - Colorado Buffaloes. Pro Basketball - Denver Nuggets. College Basketball - CU and Mizzou. Pro Hockey - Denver Avalanche. College Hockey - Denver U. Pioneers. Collegiate Wrestling - Oklahoma State and Arizona State.

Favorite all time football players: Johnny Unitas, John Elway, Craig Morton, Randy Gradishar, Dave Costa, Terrell Davis, Bubba Smith, Billy Ray Smith SR, Merlin Olsen, Tom Matte, Gayle Sayers, Mike Curtiss.

Favorite all time basketball players: Oscar Robertson, Rick Barry, Byrone Beck, Pistol Pete Maravich, Earl Monroe.

Favorite athlete of the 20th Century: Dan Gable.

Favorite singers (and bands) of all time: Marty Robbins, George Strait, Creedence Clearwater Revival.

Favorite actors: Charlton Heston, John Wayne, Kirk Douglas, Burt Lancaster, Lee Marvin, Sydney Poiter, Jimmy Stewart.

Favorite actresses: Maureen O'Hara, Natalie Wood, Hattie McDaniel, Ursula Andress (yum).

Favorite movies: Ben-Hur, The Searchers, True Grit, The Ten Commandments, Jesus of Nazareth, Braveheart, Ride the High Country.......Airplane! :laugh

Favorite sports movies:

The Stratton Story (Jimmy Stewart as Monty Stratton.
The Winning Team (Ronald Reagan as Grover Cleveland Alexander)
The Pride of the Yankees (Gary Cooper as Lou Gehrig).
Somebody Up There Likes Me (Paul Newman as Rocky Graziano)
Angels in the Outfield (1951 and 1992 versions)
Bad News Bears

Favorite sports books:

The Glory of Their Times.
The Quality of Courage (Mickey Mantle)
Guardian of the Hot Corner (Ken Boyer)
Instant Replay
My Life in Baseball, the True Record.
The Encyclopedia of Baseball.

Favorite books:

The Holy Bible
Tom Jones
Anything by Jules Verne
Anything by H.G. Wells
Anything by James Fenimore Cooper

05-02-2005, 01:10 PM
Wow, I can't believe I missed this thread all this time! Imapotato has inspired me, so I'll be as open as I comfortably can:

Name: Jason W

Age: 25
Birthdate: October 9, 1979 (born exactly one year before Matt, aka STL2)
Birthplace: Baltimore, MD... and I currently reside there
Measures: 6'0", 203 lbs
Status: single, no kids

High School: Patapsco
College: Lafayette College (Easton, PA)
Occupation: Geologist

First off, and I do consider this a privilege--I was conceived on Mt. Snow, VT, during a ski vacation. Needless to say, when the X-Games were held there I watched a lot of it.

My childhood memories are rather haphazard. There is a lot I don't remember, and for those memories that I have, I couldn't tell you much how I felt at those times. Mostly it would be either curiosity, or fear. I actually think I remember more about my ancient dreams than reality. I do remember things more vividly from middle-school onward.

I was always, always referred to as either "the smart kid", or "weird"... I'm sure a number of people here are familiar with that. I know I was way ahead of the curve as a smaller kid. I continued to push myself academically through middle and high school... probably took the most demanding schedule of anybody in that particular public system... but for what reasons I can't explain. I tend to think it was an insatiable desire to learn, and yet, it may have also been a comfort zone. I know it wasn't for the grades, or else I wouldn't have had so many zeros, I think. I'd actually do the work sometimes, and either forget to submit it, or refuse to because I didn't think it was finished.

The point of all that is coming. In 7th grade I started developing issues with auditory stimuli. Usually this would involve chewing gum or otherwise masticating loudly, or repetetively sniffling... some sort of repetetive noise. The noise would reverberate in my head until I could barely stand it. Eventually I turned to self-mutilation to distract me. One day after sticking a pencil through my hand, it was time to see a doctor.

In the year that followed, I found out that I had some form of obsessive-compulsive disorder. Not only that, but as an added bonus my psychiatrist looked to my early years, and determined that I had something called "Asperger's Syndrome"... basically a minor case of autism, which can, and I believe did, fade at puberty. Unfortunately the Syndrome has left some after-effects, most notably high anxiety and, of course, the OCD. I have subsequently been trained to cope with it, and have been taking medication.

My recommendations, AP credit and SAT scores almost got me into Brown, but the slightly low GPA brought me instead to Lafayette College. During my sophomore year there, everything fell apart. I developed a horrible case of insomnia, which after another large ordeal, took me two years to recover from (while keeping my head above water at the college). Fortunately the AP credits, coupled with a strong finish, allowed me to graduate in four years (my family couldn't afford a fifth; I was on a need-based grant already). I could look at it as sour grapes, but I choose rather to look at it as a metamorphosis... I gained a lot of maturity and social skills, made a number of friends for the first time, and even began the primal ritual of courting the opposite sex. I also discovered some mechanisms that make people tick... and that everyone has problems of their own. Given that I had my idiosyncrasies, I felt "normal" for the first time (which was intriguingly a tad unsettling).

Since I returned to Baltimore, my major (Geology) hasn't gotten me much on the local scene. I've worked here and in DC contract-to-contract. I have an interview scheduled with MDE in two weeks, and I'm looking forwared to stable employment with government benefits. I've also looked into relocation, but the most recent jobs available in this market were in Angola, Madagascar, and Kazakhstan.

ok, on to the fun stuff...

Favorite teams: Orioles, Ravens, Wizards, Leopards (Lafayette--go Pards!), UConn Huskies, MD Terps, and formerly the Goodwrench #3

Favorite atheletes during my lifetime: Dale Earnhardt, Terry Labonte, Eddie Murray, Cal and Billy Ripken, Mike Flanagan, Tony Gwynn, Randy Milligan, Peter Boulware, Rod Woodson, Edwin Mulitalo, Stockton-to-Malone, Juan Dixon, Rip Hamilton. divorced: Mike Mussina.

And, a special shout out to the Lafayette b-ball trio of Brian Ehlers, Tyson Whitfield, and Stefan Ciosici. Thanks mainly to them, I had the privilege of seeing the Pards go to the Big Dance twice!

Favorite atheletes before my lifetime: Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell, Paul Blair, Stan Musial, Artie Donovan, Lenny Moore, Alan Page, Oscar Robertson. And Bevo LeBourveau.

Least favorite teams: Yanks & Sawx, The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, Browns & Steelers, 49ers, the entire NFC East, Lakers, Duke, Duke, Lehigh, Duke, and the Dupont #24 of course

Least favorite atheletes (Sports figures): Mike Mussina, Terrell Owens, Mark Gastineau, um... gee... more of these are authority figures.

Don King, Scott Boras, Donald Fehr, Phil Jackson, Tony LaRussa, the entire NHL management system, Jack Kent Cook and the late Bob Irsay, among others.

Favorite music artists: gawd, um, that's a quagmire... by category:

classical - Franz Liszt, Felix Mendelssohn, Dmitri Shostakovich, Nobuo Uematsu
60's - CCR, Three Dog Night, The Guess Who
70's - The Who, Pink Floyd, Billy Joel, Stevie Wonder, AC/DC, Paul McCartney
80's - Peter Gabriel, Genesis, Metallica
90's - Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Sublime
current - no friggin' clue
movies/shows - John Williams, Danny Elfman, Howard Shore

*If you're a fan of classical music, and never had a chance to see Victor Borge's blend of talent and comedy, you must find it!

Favorite Books: LOTR (J.R.R. Tolkien), Hero of 1000 Faces (Joseph Campbell), the Earthsea Cycle (Ursula K. LeGuinn), and virtually anything written by Kurt Vonnegut. Looking forward to reading the Hitchhiker's Series by Douglas Adams. Big fan as a kid of A Wrinkle In Time (Madeleine L'Engle).

Favorite Movies:
drama - To Kill A Mockingbird, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, 12 Angry Men, The Conversation, Shindler's List (I'm done seeing it though), and just for fun, The Fugitive
scifi/fantasy - LOTR again (but the books definitely come first), Empire Strikes Back (just that one), Dark City, The Matrix (just the first), The Princess Bride, and recently, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
comedy - The Producers/Blazing Saddles/Young Frankenstein, Airplane/Naked Gun/Kentucky Fried Movie, Adaptation, Office Space, Groundhog Day, A Fish Called Wanda, Throw Mama From the Train, Trains/Planes/Automobiles, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Holy Grail/Life of Brian... I'll stop there. I like a lot of comedies.
horror/thriller - Alien (yes it goes here), Jaws, The Exorcist, Silence of the Lambs
animated - Grave of the Fireflies, Perfect Blue, Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, The Secret of Nymh
musicals - Chicago, All That Jazz (different movie), and yes, South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut (also qualified for animated and comedy). My list for stage would be a lot longer.

Hobbies: too many. This, for one. I've received high praise for my fictional writing... I've also been part of professional (albeit non-profit) productions of Guys & Dolls and Chess. A friend is interested in doing Arsenic & Old Lace (another comedy I forgot to mention), and has cast me as Teddy "I think I'm Roosevelt" Brewster. I've been trying to grow a mustache big enough for six months.

-whew- well, thanks for reading. I feel like I overtyped my welcome. :D
You also remind me of how many movies I've wanted to see, but haven't gotten to. I liked "Blue Velvet" but would rather not see it again... nor hear the song again... nor hear "Candy-Coated Clown of Love" for that matter. At least "Reservoir Dogs" didn't ruin "Stuck In the Middle With You"... for some reason I found that one funny.

Fargo is great; my favorite Coen Bros. film is fast becoming "O' Brother, Where Art Thou?" in case you haven't seen it, but they're all classics in my book and I think they'll leave quite a legacy.

BTW--My father was a Marine too. He was very lucky to get out when he did (just before the heaviest stuff in DaNang) with nothing but a piece of shrapnel imbedded in his shoulder (it's still there... that's another story involving a Vietnamese doctor, a pair of heavy duty pliers and a scapula). He received a Purple Heart but he won't want you to know that . After the experience, he signed up for Bethlehem Steel's Sparrows Point plant... just got in his 30 years of work before they went "kablooey" and sold to ISG. He's getting a pension, and he and I are now renovating and attempting to sell property that belonged to his late brother.

Jason's Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000487849282&ref=search)

The Splendid Splinter
05-02-2005, 11:59 PM
Bart Schutter- 6'2" 230
Age: 29
Hometown: Earl Park, IN 1984-2003,2010
Lafayette, IN 2004- 2009
Fayetteville, AR 2011-present

High School: Benton Central High School (Same as Wolverineman)
College: Ivy Tech Community College: A.S. Design Technology-specialized in Architecture; Graduated May 2010
University of Arkansas: Bachelor of Architecture

General Background:
I am what you call "legally" deaf, but I wear hearing aids. If I had to put it into % wise on how deaf I am, I would be about 95% deaf in my left ear. I just lost all my hearing in both of my ears this summer of '07. It came back in my right ear for a couple more weeks, then I lost it for the 2nd time. I am currently getting ready to get my cochlear implants later this year. I got my cochlear implant on Oct. 29th 2007 in both ear. It’s been 3 years now since I got my implants. Everything went as well as it can. My last hearing test was a couple months ago and they said I was like high 80s% of a normal hearing person. It’s amazing what some of these technologies can do for you. I now go to University of Arkansas for Architecture. I'm finally doing what I wanted to do/dream of my whole life: to become an Architect. It only took me like 7 years after high school to get there, but at least I made it and didn't quit. Earl Park is a very small town, with maybe 400 people? The only thing we're known for is our Fall Festival on Labor Day Weekend. Each day, we get up to 40,000 people during the weekend. It's like a lot of the other festivals that small towns have. Flea markets, camping ground, tractor pull, etc... Basically, it give you four days to get really really drunk and the cops don't care as long as you don't get super crazy. That's all for now. I'll add some more when I can think of something.

My dad has his own construction company for 20 years now. Before that, he worked in a lumber company. He comes from a family of 10 brothers and sisters (5 each). My mom was a secretary at a local bank for 20 years until my senior year of high school. Since then, she has basically been a housewife and doing the book works for my dad. They are some of the nicest people you'll ever meet. I have an older brother, Ben. He's 2 years older than me. He just recently got married to a wonderful girl in August. He went to school for a couple years, then dropped out. Now he's following dad's footsteps into the company. He recently started a fighting company called Knucklehead Fighters. He's really into MMA/UFC.

I have just been working with my dad over the last couple summers, doing construction work. Doing anything from putting in a window to build a house. I’m getting ready to graduate soon so I’ll have to start looking for a real job now. I’m hoping to get into an architecture firm with a low level position and work my way up. I have also been thinking about going to HOK as well for a job. Well... work is on hold (for now) as since I'm working on my Bachelor in Architecture.

My passion for BB:
I don't know how I got into BB. It was probably my great grandpa. He died 107 years old in 2001. But throughout his life, he wrote journals about sports and the players through the years. So he got to see guys like Cy Young, Albert Pujols, Bobby Jones, Jim Thorpe, Ty Cobb, Satchal Paige, Mickey Mantle, Jack Nicklaus, Jim Brown, Bill Russell, Michael Jordan, etc. When he died, in his will, he gave me his journals. I was always into sports and played sports. Played BB until my 9th grade year. (hated the Varsity coach, even though the seniors wanted me to play cuz they thought I would've started as a 2nd, and one of the seniors played at 2nd) Played basketball until 9th grade. (hated the Varsity coach -see a pattern here?) The reason I hated those coaches was because they didn't want to spend time working with me because I wasn't from a certain family in my county. Like if your mom or dad was a good athlete or had money or something special, coaches would've paid attention to you and work with you. And another reason, I was born deaf and wear hearing aids in both ears and I guess it was too much work for them to say things 2 or 3 or sometime 4 times so I can actually hear them. Oh well... their loss. Anyway, enough of that, another sport I played was golf. This was my favorite sport. I played all four years in high school. My best was 3 under 31 on 9 (tied school record) and 73 on 18 in a match. I just recently shot a 69 last summer, with a 4 under 32 back 9 so that's my best on both 9 and 18.

I walked on at Ball State for golf, but I didn't get to play in any events. I just practiced with the team and the coach worked with me, telling me I was a project for the future. But sport and college was too much for me.

Favorite Things To Do:
Drawing, Painting, Playing Sports, Working Out, Learning the history of Baseball, Reading here on BBF, Dancing (experienced break dancer), Watch Movies, Listen to Music, Going to Concerts, Hanging Out with Friends, Partying, Playing Wa-Shoos

Favorite Movies:
A lot to choose from... Star Wars, Lords of the Ring, Troy, 300, Hero, Fight Club, Dazed and Confused, The Boondock Saints, Magnolia, The Dark Crystal, The Hangover, Labyrinth, to name a few.... I'm a huge movie fanatic. I could go on and on....

Best-Made Movies:
Exorcist I, Lord of the Rings trilogy, Teminator I, Silence of the Lambs, Troy, 300, Matrix, Star Wars (1-6), Psycho, Pulp Ficton, The Deer Hunter, Indiana Jones trilogy, Jaws, Aliens, Seven, Saw, KIDS, (Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels), Amelie

Favorite Movie Directors:
Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, Steven Spielberg, Michael Bay, James Cameron, Sam Raimi, Oliver Stone, Martin Scorsese, George Lucas, Paul Thomas “PT” Anderson (he did Boogie Nights, Magnolia- not the guy who did Resident Evil 1 and 2)

Favorite Actors:
Samuel L. Jackson, John Travolta, Nicholas Cage, Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman, Kevin Costner, Bruce Willis, Johnny Depp, Tom Cruise, Hugh Jackman, Jet Li, Matthew McConaughey, Steven Seagal, Jean-Claude Van Damme

Favorite Actresses:
Uma Thurman, Rene Russo, Angelina Jolie, Halle Berry, Selma Hayek, Charlize Theron, Heather Graham, Natalie Portman, Denise Richards, Alyssa Milano, Ashley Judd, Eliza Dushku, Keira Knightley, Eva Mendes, Meagan Good, Rosario Dawson

Favorite TV Shows:
Family Guy, The Boondocks, Heroes, Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis, Iron Chef America, Man vs. Food, Doctor Who, Good Eats, Sanctuary, Destination Truth, Warehouse 13

Favorite Books:
Illiad, Odyssey, by Homer
A Midsummer’s Night Dream, Hamlet, Much Ado About Nothing, Winters Tale, MacBeth, Romeo and Juliet, Othello, by William Shakespeare
Journey to the Center of the Earth, 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, by Jules Verne
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain
Dracula, by Bram Stoker
The Island of Doctor Moreau, by H. G. Wells
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, by Washington Irving
Lord of the Rings trilogy books, by J. R. R. Tolkien
The Great Gatsby, by F. Scott Fitzgerald
Canterbury Tales, by Geoffrey Chaucer
King Arthur and Knights of Round Table, by Thomas Mallory
Poetics, by Aristole
Story of My Life, by Helen Keller
War and Peace, by Leo Tolstoy

Favorite Bands:
again, a lot to choose... Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Audioslave, BT (techno DJ), Eric Clapton, Guns N Roses, John Mellencamp, Kenny Chesney, Led Zeppelin, The Who, Nelly, Usher, Nine Inch Nails, Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Snoop Dogg, Garth Brooks, Steve Miller Band, Tom Petty, The Eagles, The Doors; I pretty much listen to anything... You'll see all of the different music styles that I listen to when you see my favorite tunes list.

Music I Don't Care For:
The only music that I don’t care for really are… Gospel, Latin, Broadway, Opera.

Favorite Rock Geniuses:
Paul McCartney, John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Bob Marley, Elton John, John Fogerty, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain, Trent Reznor, Robert Plant, Jimmy Page

Favorite Voices:
David Ruffin, Eddie Kendricks, Frankie Vallie, Aretha Franklin, Carol King, Stevie Wonder, Bono, Robert Plant, Jim Morrison, Eddie Vedder, Marvin Gaye, Mary J. Blige, Alicia Keys

Favorite Rock Tunes: there's so many more I could definitely add here... I got like 2600+ songs, but I'll give you an idea with this list.

Revolution (Beatles)
Me & Bobbie McGee (Janis Joplin)
Oh What A Night (Frankie Vallie & the Four Seasons)
Days Go By (Dirty Vegas) techno...
I Am The Highway (Audioslave)
Change (Blind Melon)
No Woman No Cry (Bob Marley)
Let Me Take You Tonight (Boston)
Cuts Like A Knife (Bryan Adams)
Tripping the Light Fantastic (BT) techno…
Big Yellow Taxi (Counting Crows)
Satellite (Dave Matthews Band)
My Girl (The Temptations)
All (DJ Rap) Songs techno...
Organ Donor (DJ Shadow) techno…
A Tear Into The Open (DJ Tiesto) techno… (something about this vocal in this song in the beginning that just drawn me in…)
Tears In Heaven (Eric Clapton)
All (Fleetwood Mac) Songs
Killing Me Softly (The Fugees)
The River (Garth Brooks)
Asleep (Godsmack)
All (Daft Punk) Songs techno...
You’re The One (Guerilla Black)
Sweet Child O’ Mine (Guns N Roses)
Family Traditions (Hank Williams Jr.)
A Country Boy Can Survive (Hank Williams Jr.)
Never Been Any Reason (Head East) it’s my parents’ song…
Talk Show On Mute (Incubus)
Rosie (Jackson Browne)
Roadie Song (Jackson Browne)
All (John Mellencamp) Songs
Making Memories Of Us (Keith Urban)
Back Where I Come From (Kenny Chesney)
Going To California (Led Zeppelin)
Tuesday’s Gone (Lynyrd Skynyrd)
I Heard It Through The Grapevine (Marvin Gaye)
Old Man (Neil Young)
12:51 (The Strokes)
Lapdance (N.E.R.D.)
Utha Side (Nelly)
We’re In This Together Now (Nine Inch Nails)
You Know You’re Right (Nirvana) and also all of their songs...
Somewhere Out There (Our Lady Peace)
I’ll Be (Edwin McCain)
All (Pearl Jam) Songs
In The Air Tonight (Phil Collins)
English Summer Rain (Placebo)
Idioteque (Radiohead)
All (Red Hot Chili Peppers) Songs
Losing My Religion (REM)
Ridin’ The Storm Out (REO Speedwagon)
Hunger Strike (Temple Of The Dog) a super band consist of Pearl Jam and Soundgarden that made one album...
Maggie May (Rod Stewart)
Adia (Sarah McLachlan)
Crazy (Seal)
All (Sevendust) Songs
Tonight, Tonight (Smashing Pumpkins)
Konstantine (Something Corporate)
Limo Wreck (Soundgarden)
Copperhead Road (Steve Earle)
All (Steve Miller Band) Songs
Superstition (Stevie Wonder)
Good Times Roll (The Cars)
Longsong (The Cure)
All (The Doors) Songs
All (The Eagles) Songs
Subject To Change (The June Spirit)
Can’t You See (The Marshall Tucker Band)
Seed 2.0 (The Roots)
Baba O’Reiley (The Who)
No Surprise (Theory Of A Deadman)
Beer For My Horses (Toby Keith)
All (Tom Petty) Songs
Lateralus (Tool)
California Love (2Pac & Dr. Dre)
All (U2) Songs
Caught Up (Usher)
Regulate (Warren G)
All (AC/DC) Songs
Let's Push Things Forward (The Streets)

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century:
Ty Cobb, Barry Sanders, Bobby Jones, Tiger Woods, Steve Prefontaine, Jim Thorpe, Jim Brown, Jesse Owens, Babe Didrikson Zaharias, Honus Wagner, Michael Jordan, Mohammed Ali, Wilt Chamberlain, Carl Lewis, Oscar Charleston, Bo Jackson

Favorite Baseball Players:
Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Ichiro, Shoeless Joe, Ted Williams, Sammy Sosa, Nolan Ryan, Greg Maddux, Rube Waddell, Mark Prior, George Sisler, Oscar Charleston, Stachal Paige, Smokey Joe Williams, Pop Lloyd, Starlin Castro, Mike Trout

Favorite Basketball Players:
Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Dr. J., Jason Kidd, Magic Johnson, Shaq, Oscar Roberton (my grandpa got to see him and played against him in high school)

Favorite Football Players:
Walter Payton, Barry and Deion Sanders, Jerry Rice, Reggie White, Brett Farve, Brian Urlacher, Eddie George, Randy Moss, Peyton Manning, Julius Peppers, Brandon Marshall

Favorite UFC fighters:
Georges St-Pierre, Royce Gracie, Frank Mir, Randy Couture, Victor Belfort, Wanderlei "The Axe Murderer" Silva, Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, Dan "Hollywood" Henderson, BJ Penn, Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, Jon Jones

Men I admire Most:
Jesus, Budda, Socrates, Plato
Michael Jordan, 1963-present
Leonardo Da Vinci, 1452-1519
Winston Churchill, 1874-1965
Ty Cobb, 1887-1961
William Shakespeare, 1564-1616
Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948
Martin Luther King, Jr., 1929-68
Romero Britto, 1963-present (artist)
Thomas Jefferson, 1743-1826
Albert Einstein, 1879-1955
Hannibal, 247 BC-183 BC
Alfred Gockel, 1952-present (artist)
Mohammed Ali, 1942-present
Dali Llama, 1935-present, 13th in Tibetan lineage.
George Washington, 1732-1799
Pablo Picasso, 1881-1973 (artist)

I just really enjoy reading threads on Baseball Fever. Keep up the good work guys.
Great music... Pearl Jam rocks man. Got to see them in concert twice, hopefully to see them for the third time on the next tour they go out.
I don't have a website, but I do have a few artworks saved on my computer. I love to draw and paint. Right now, I'm currently working on a 6 foot by 9 foot painting (or mural) on my bedroom wall. I would share my stuff if you guys want to see them.
The Soft Parade is a great song. But I liked Riders on the Storm or The End better though.

Other songs that could top as the masterpiece of Rock:

Smells Like Teen Spirit, by Nirvana
Baba O'Reilly (Teenage Wasteland), by The Who
Take your pick on any AC/DC song - They are THE rock and roll band...
Slow Ride, by Foghat (I just love this song, and watch Dazed and Confused all the time.)
Quite a few Guns N Roses song.. (Appetite For Destruction- my top 5 best Rock CD of all time)
Any Led Zeppelin songs (my favorites are Going to California, Over the Hills And Far Away, and Misty Mountain Hop.)
And same with Pink Floyd...
Voodoo Child or All Along The Watchtower, by Jimi Hendrix

Photos of me:

The people in the pic are like this: Jasmine (cousin), Ben (brother), Me, Clayton (cousin), Amy (cousin), Brady (friend, but like a brother), Andrea (cousin)...

here you go Bill.... 1st pic is of my brother and his wife then 2nd pic is my parents...

God, you look so like your Mom it's not even funny. The funny thing is, Bart, that I had imagined you as a thin, little guy. I can't think of you without also thinking of BoSox Rule. You both have this Boston thing going.

Yeah I know I look like my mom a lot and my brother looks like my dad. The weird part is that everybody think I'm a spitting image of my grandpa on my mom's side when he was young instead of I look like my mom. I'm one of those "hit or miss" with my brother. Some people say either we look a lot alike or we don't. I think I know maybe a handful of people who said that we look somewhat similar.

You imagine me as a thin, little guy?? haha That's funny. The last time I was skinny was ummm... probably never(not even when I was born cuz I was 22 inches long and 9 lbs baby).

05-03-2005, 12:11 AM
I was always, always referred to as either "the smart kid", or "weird"... I'm sure a number of people here are familiar with that. I know I was way ahead of the curve as a smaller kid. I continued to push myself academically through middle and high school... probably took the most demanding schedule of anybody in that particular public system... but for what reasons I can't explain. I tend to think it was an insatiable desire to learn, and yet, it may have also been a comfort zone. I know it wasn't for the grades, or else I wouldn't have had so many zeros, I think. I'd actually do the work sometimes, and either forget to submit it, or refuse to because I didn't think it was finished.

The point of all that is coming. In 7th grade I started developing issues with auditory stimuli. Usually this would involve chewing gum or otherwise masticating loudly, or repetitively sniffling... some sort of repetitive noise. The noise would reverberate in my head until I could barely stand it. Eventually I turned to self-mutilation to distract me. One day after sticking a pencil through my hand, it was time to see a doctor.

In the year that followed, I found out that I had some form of obsessive-compulsive disorder. Not only that, but as an added bonus my psychiatrist looked to my early years, and determined that I had something called "Asperger's Syndrome"... basically a minor case of autism, which can, and I believe did, fade at puberty. Unfortunately the Syndrome has left some after-effects, most notably high anxiety and, of course, the OCD. I have subsequently been trained to cope with it, and have been taking medication.

I have several of the same issues, Aspergers, real social issues, social anxiety (talking to people that I don't know is extremely difficult for me), auditory stimuli drives me crazy, some obsessive-compulsive issues. My wife laughs because I won't walk on the grass at school. I have difficulty functioning sometimes if my routines are upset.

I think baseball appeals to people with Aspergers because of the structure of the game.

I loved playing baseball at the schoolyard as a kid. I played on organized teams, but never liked that much. My friends and I preferred playing 4 on 4 or 5 on 5 with no adults around.

I like baseball at the ballpark and the radio but not so much on TV. My interest in the game is on the wane a little bit. I think I'm more interested in the games history than the game on the field right now.
Wamby responding to Splendid Splinter:
I feel for you. I've worked with deaf and hard of hearing people and have met more than a few people who equate deafness with lack of intelligence. I was always a small kid and adults on teams wouldn't give me the time of day. By the time I was 11 I only wanted to play ball in the neighborhood and stopped playing on organized teams when I was 12. I did try out for freshman baseball when I was in the 9th grade and got about three swings as a tryout. After that I have never played on any kind of organized team.

I also know how it feels to have stuff repeated to you. I have processing difficulties and almost always need instructions repeated to me 2 or 3 times. Some people get a little condescending about doing that. It drove (still drives) my dad crazy. It doesn't help much at work (lol).
addendum on Dad:
My father refused to attend my wedding last year and I have to admit that I am still a little pissed about it. This has knocked him down a couple of pegs in my feelings about him.

For that matter, my father-in-law also refused to attend.

Say Hey
05-14-2005, 05:09 PM
Name: Ryan
Location:Lakeville, Minnesota

I was born in Detroit and lived their until last year. I've been playing Baseball since I was 5 years old. I now play on my High School team for the JV squad. I am a starting centerfielder. I'm a pretty good contact hitter (BA .300-.370) and I can hit for power. When I do go on base I usually steal because I am a fast runner from my track experience. I also play Football and Basketball. I'm an average player at each of them. I'm a pretty good student, I maintain a 3.4 grade point average.

Favorite Athletes: Willie Mays, Gordie Howe, TY Cobb, Steve Yzerman, Brendan Shanahan, Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax, Isaiah Thomas, Ben Wallace, Chauncy Billups, Tayshaun Prince, Rasheed Wallace, Richard Hamilton, Maurice Richard, Bobby Hull, Barry Sanders, Jim Brown, Dick Butkus, Joe Dimaggio, Nick Lidstrom, Hank Aaron and more.

Movies: Rocky, Boyz N' The 'Hood, Don't Be A Menace, Menace To Society, Rudy, Gladiator (The one with Cuba Gooding JR in it), Caddy Shack, Rambo Movies 1 and 2, Slap Shot, The Godfather, Goodfellows, Saving Private Ryan, and We Were Soldiers.

Actors: Stallone, Arnold Shwarzeneggar, Mel Gibson, Adam Sandler, Ben Stiller, Cuba Gooding Jr., and Clint Eastwood.

Bands: The Temptations, The Miracles, The Four Topps, The Stylistics, Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes, Marvin Gaye, Al Green, The Isley Brothers, Brian Mcknight, AC/DC, Aerosmith, Sweet, The Who, Teddy Pendergrass, The Animals, Luther Vandross, Bobby Vinton, and The Commodors.

Sport Teams: Detroit Tigers, Red Wings, Pistons, and Lions. The Pittsburgh Pirates, and Steelers.
I stopped running track when I was 13, when I did run track the practices ended a few hours before I had to go to baseball. We rarely had meets on the same days I had baseball but when we did I choose to go to baseball instead of the track meets.

05-15-2005, 05:14 PM
Name: Sam

Age: 20

Home: born and raised in Baltimore, where I still live when I'm not at school down at College Park.

Schooling: St. Agnes School, K-8
Cardinal Gibbons High School (formerly St. Mary's Industrial School for Boys, alma mater of sorts of Babe Ruth) 9-12
University of Maryland, College Park. Currently finishing up my sophomore year.

Employment: Worked the past two summers at the Cal Ripken, Sr. Foundation and this past year have started working with the Maryland Media Relations Department at sporting events like football, mens and womens basketball, lacrosse, field hockey, softball, and swimming.

I like all four of the major sports, and am suffering through a spring without the NHL Playoffs. But I've been a lifelong O's fan, attended my first game at Memorial Stadium in 1987 against Seattle at the age of 2. Since then, I've been at several of the big moments in Orioles history--the last win (second-to-last game) at Memorial Stadium, the first game at Oriole Park, Cal's games 2130 and 2131, Eddie Murray's first game back with the team in 1996, an Orioles playoff game from the 1997 ALCS, Cal's second-to-last game (in which he got his last hit, and also one of the only games in which both Tim Raines and Tim Raines Jr. played for the Orioles).

Hobbies: I collect hats--have at least one of every Major League team. I also collect music.

Favorite Books: Confessions of a Baseball Purist by Jon Miller, America by Jon Stewart, Chronicles by Bob Dylan

Favorite Movies: The Godfather Parts I and II (III isn't as bad as people say, but it isn't up to the standards of the first two), Blazing Saddles, History of the World Part 1, Robin Hood Men in Tights, Monty Python's Holy Grail & Life of Brian, Forrest Gump, Mars Attacks, Zoolander, Office Space, Dr. Strangelove, Ray, Dodgeball, A Hard Day's Night, Happy Gilmore

Favorite Actors: Marlon Brando, Al Pacino, Jack Nicholson, Will Ferrell, Vince Vaughan

Favorite Bands: The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Cream/Eric Clapton solo, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Who, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, Pink Floyd, The Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, The Kinks, David Bowie.

Favorite Songs: Beatles-I Am the Walrus, A Day in the Life, Come Together, Hey Jude, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, In My Life, Back in the USSR, Dear Prudence, Help!, Revolution, the second half of Abbey Road.

Rolling Stones-Gimme Shelter, Paint It Black, Honky Tonk Woman, Sympathy for the Devil, Satisfaction, Don't Stop, Wild Horses, It's Only Rock and Roll.

Bob Dylan-Subterranean Homesick Blues, Highway 61 Revisited, Don't Think Twice It's Alright, I Want You, Like a Rolling Stone, It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding), Knockin' on Heaven's Door, Rainy Day Woman #12 & 35.

Cream/Eric Clapton solo-White Room, Sunshine of Your Love, Strange Brew, Tales of Brave Ulysses, SWLABR, Layla, After Midnight, Crossroads, Cocaine, Bell Bottom Blues, Tears in Heaven.

The Jimi Hendrix Experience-Voodoo Child (Slight Return), All Along the Watchtower, If 6 Was 9, The Star Spangled Banner, Foxey Lady, Are You Experienced, Machine Gun.

The Who-Baba O'Riley, Who Are You (nice title to this thread, btw :D), I Can See For Miles, Behind Blue Eyes, Won't Get Fooled Again, Magic Bus, Pinball Wizard.

Led Zeppelin-Dazed and Confused, Kashmir, When the Levee Breaks, Immigrant Song, Whole Lotta Love, Rock and Roll, The Battle of Evermore, Stairway to Heaven, D'yer Mak'er, Ramble On.

The Doors-The End, Touch Me, Hello I Love You, Twentieth Century Fox, Break On Through (to the Other Side), Roadhouse Blues, Alabama Song (Whiskey Bar).

Pink Floyd-Money, Another Brick in the Wall Part II, Comfortably Numb, Wish You Were Here.

The Grateful Dead-Friend of the Devil, Dire Wolf, Casey Jones, Touch of Grey, Cumberland Blues, Uncle John's Band.

Jefferson Airplane-White Rabbit, Somebody to Love, She has Funny Cars, 3/5 of a Mile in 10 Seconds.

The Kinks-Tired of Waiting, Dedicated Follower of Fashion, Lola, A Well Respected Man, Come Dancing, You Really Got Me, All Day and All of the Night.

David Bowie-Space Oddity, Suffragette City, Ziggy Stardust, Fame, Ashes to Ashes, Young Americans, Rebel Rebel.

Others: Dancing in the Street (Martha and the Vandellas), Papa Was a Rolling Stone (Temptations), Exodus (Bob Marley and the Wailers), Imagine/Watching the Wheels (John Lennon), Hi Hi Hi/Mull of Kintyre/Band on the Run (Paul McCartney and Wings), My Sweet Lord (George Harrison), Call Me (Blondie), London Calling/Train in Vain (The Clash), Blitzkrieg Bop/Teenage Lobotomy (The Ramones), The Weight (The Band), Sunday Papers (Joe Jackson), Billie Jean (Michael Jackson).

That was long, wasn't it? :o

Favorite Current Athletes: Miguel Tejada, Melvin Mora, Ray Lewis, Jamal Lewis, Ed Reed, Juan Dixon, Steve Blake, Lonny Baxter

Favorite Past Athletes: Cal Ripken, Brooks Robinson, Frank Robinson, Jim Palmer, Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Johnny Unitas, Yogi Berra, Michael Jordan, Patrick Roy, Magic Johnson

OK I think I'm done...finally :).

06-13-2005, 04:24 AM
First Name:Chris


Sorry I haven't checked in earlier here...anyway....

I live in Western Mass, right outside of Springfield. I was born in 1992, and I started enjoying baseball starting in 1997. My first real memory of watching the game was in that sesaon. I remember watching Edgar Renteria getting the game winning single and the Marlins winning the World Series. I guess I could have ended up a Marlins fan after that, but I didn't. I've never had a true and absolute favorite team, one that I lived and died following. I followed the Expos quite a bit, and that has continued when they've moved to Washington. They're probably my favorite team to pick one. I saw them play the Red Sox earler this year, almost caught a foul ball hit by Coco Crisp. My favorite players growing up were Barry Bonds and Frank Thomas (I remember watching him in '97, tracking his hits hoping incessantly he would win the batting title. He did, much to my pleasure). I never really saw the peak Thomas except for in '97, but I'm sure he was awesome.

Where did my baseball passion start? There's no real history behind it, my father was a huge baseball fan and even coached the local high school team, so I just liked the game like him. He was a Yankees fan, and has been watching the game since 1965. His favorite players growing up were Bobby Murcer and Roy White. He became a Red Sox fan (broke away from his father, my grandfather) and has remained with the Red Sox ever since. His Red Sox favorite was Fred Lynn.

I enjoy playing baseball as well as football, I've always been a very good football player, and good at baseball as well. As far as heights and weights, following up on a theme, I'm about 5 foot one and 107 pounds. Not fat at all either. Like EH I have recently taken to going to local gym, preparing for high school sports, particularly football (nowadays you absolutely need to lift to be good at that).

Favorite Athletes (non baseball)-Shaquille O'Neal, Deuce McAllister, Gale Sayers, Tom Brady, Rasheed Wallace, Wilt Chamberlain, Julius Erving

Favorite Baseball players: Willie Mays, Oscar Charleston, Reggie Jackson, Joe Morgan, Rickey Henderson, Lou Gehrig, Mike Schmidt, Barry Bonds Tim Raines, and Manny Ramirez

Favorite Football RBs (past and present)-Gale Sayers, Deuce McAllister, Marcus Allen, Priest Holmes, Chuck Muncie, Corey Dillon, Jim Brown

Favorite Songs:

"California Love" - 2Pac & Dr. Dre
"Hit 'Em Up" - 2Pac
"In da Club" - 50 Cent
"Nuthin' but a 'G' Thang" - Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg
"Strictly Business" - EPMD
"Mind Playing Tricks on Me" - Geto Boys
"The Message" - Grandmaster Flash
"Ha" - Juvenile
"Express Yourself" - N.W.A.
"Straight Outta Compton" - N.W.A.
"O.P.P." - Naughty by Nature
"Juicy" - Notorious B.I.G.
"Everyday Struggle" - Notorious B.I.G.
"Ms. Jackson" - OutKast
"Fight the Power" - Public Enemy
"Rebel Without a Pause" - Public Enemy
"Prophets of Rage" - Public Enemy
"Welcome to the Terrordome" - Public Enemy
"C'mon 'N Ride It (The Train)" - Quad City DJ's
"It Takes Two" - Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock
"It's Like That" - Run-DMC
"What You Know" - T.I.

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06-13-2005, 09:51 AM
My name is Chris

Born in Amsterdam, The Netherlands in 1967.

I learned about baseball in 1981. From that year I am a passionate Yankee fan.

I went to University in 1988 to study political science. But in 1991, I decided to stop because of my mother's illness. She died in 1992. This was a huge blow to me. I really got a great support by my wife.

I started playing baseball in 1991, after a softball "career" of 4 years.

Married with Sylvia in 1994.

In 1995 I visited my first two MLB games, both at Dodger Stadium. One against the Phillies. In this game I saw Hideo Nomo pitch. He was awesome.

Oldest daughter Kayleigh (named after the song of Marillion) was born in 1996

Lived in Amsterdam until 1997. Moved up to Hoorn (about 50 km North of Amsterdam).

Youngest daughter Nienke was born in 1998.

Moved to the Southern part of the Netherlands (near the Belgian border) in 2001. This was a temporary end of my baseball playing days.

This year I started playing again. But hell is that though. I never was a good batter, but this year it is worse than ever.

My favorite book is The Secret History by Donna Tart.

My favorite sports book The Baseball Hall of Shame series by Zullo and Nash.

Favorite movie: Dances with Wolves.

Favorite music: (hard) rock, classical music (Mozart, Beethoven f.e.), Jazz (most Michael Brecker). I absolutely hate R&B.

Favorite sports: Absolute nr. 1 is baseball. Other favorite sports are (ice)hockey, basketball, skiing, inline skating. I like to do the last two sports my self.

People I admire: My wife. I really admire the way she is able to run our house besides her tough job. We split duties as much as possible but still...

06-13-2005, 11:17 AM
My name is Robert

I am 19

Born in Westerville, OH in 1985, moved to Tacoma in '89 and live there until '03 (go Rainier's!), and am currently living in north Seattle going to college.

I am looking to get into the medical field (Radiology Technician, and then on to a Radiologist), I've got a year to wait to see if that happens.

Until I hear anything on that, I will probably still be stuck at my low paying retail job, but that is the life...

I play the saxophone, and have for the past 9, almost 10 years. I started in 5th grade and played all through high school. I am certainly not the greatest out there (or am I the worst). My highlights of my playing "career" includes when I was in high school, I was able to go and play at the Lionel Hampton Jazz Festival in Moscow...Idaho that is! Was an alternate for the All-State band, and I have cut 2 CD's with a Jazz group that I played with (not sold in stores! I probably have the only copies left anyways!).

My biggest love is reading, I love it, whether it is about baseball, sci-fi, whatever it is, I like it. Some of my accomplishments include:

Leo Tolstoy's, War and Peace (boy was THAT a doozy!)
John Jakes, Homeland (think war and peace in length, just easier to read)
I have finished several of John Jakes series - the Kent family Chronicles, his Australian
series - historical fiction - great reads)
Homer's, The Iliad, and The Odyssey
Jane Austin's, Pride and Prejudice, and Sense and Sensibility (I had a serious classical period, OK!)
M.M. Kaye's, The Far Pavilions
Currently, I am on a lot of John Grisham's - read all of them! And Tom Clancy.
Other favorite authors include Robert Ludlum and Alistair McLain (not sure on the spelling)

I personally don't play baseball, just can't hit a thing. Never played on a team, and at this point, no one would let me on one! I grew up playing soccer, and was pretty good if I do say so myself. I could have played on some better teams, but was restricted due to financial difficulties, and the fact that there were 6 kids my mom had to take places every week, but I can't complain. I stopped playing soccer in 9th grade, but I am now looking to get back into it. I ran track in middle school, but in high school moved to cross country. My freshman year I was an alternate for state, but didn't keep up with it, and never made it. I am making up for it now, and am training right now for a marathon this fall/winter.

Now on to what you really want to hear.

I did not grow up with baseball being a part of my life, all of my friends played, so I would join a pick up game here and there, but nothing regular (unfortunately I cant catch, hit, or throw, so that leaves me out most of the time). It wasn't until 1995 that I first started paying attention to baseball - you don't know how beautiful that double was. Edgar was my man from that point on. I started watching more after that , but it wasn't a focal point yet. The Mcgwire/Sosa run kept me in the game, but steroids kept me away. If fact, I hardly watched a single game in 2000, I was just too busy with other things, but I kept tabs in the newspapers and highlight reels. The the 2001 season began, and I wasn't into the season, until I started hearing about this amazing throw by some new Japanese player...Ever since then I have been hooked. I know this makes me very new to the game and all, but I am certainly trying to make up for lost time. I have hardly missed a game since 2 weeks in to the '01 season, and ever since joining this site, I have just learned to love this sport even more. I currently have the opportunity to live vicariously through one of my younger cousins who is an amazingly talented kid, and can play any sport out there and is the best at all of them, yet his number one is Baseball!

Favorite Active players:
Griffey jr.
Scott Podsednik (saw him play in Tacoma)
A-rod (just love to hate him)
Carlos Guillen (one of the worst trades ever)
Randy Johnson (I have always wondered, what would happen if he were a Yankee - just be glad this wasn't last year)

Favorite retired players:
1-100.) Edgar Martinez
101.) Edgar Martinez
102.) Edgar Martinez
103.) Ted Williams (so far, nobody on my list can field a ball!)
102.) Jay "the Bone" Buhner (just love those '90's Mariners) - up yours Yankee's!

Player's I don't like:
1.) Pedro Martinez - He destroys the Mariner's everytime - has never lost a game to us :D
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06-13-2005, 02:13 PM
Bill - I am very sorry I didn't see this thread much, much sooner. I was totally unaware of your health problem, but did notice your absence for a while and wondered what the hell happened! Glad to hear you have made a full recovery and are working like a fine watch once again. This thread was a great idea! :clapping It is very interesting to read about the divergent backgrounds that come together on this site, all through the love of baseball. I imagine most have abandoned this thread, but as you and I have a "history", I will attempt to follow your original format, and tell you about my life, such as it is.

Lewis J. Snyder
Born: May 18, 1951 (share this birthday with Brooks Robinson and Reggie Jackson) in Jamestown, Chautauqua County, New York.
Lived here my entire life, except for four months active duty at Fort Knox in 1971.

Education: K thru 9 at SS. Peter and Paul Roman Catholic School. Three years at Jamestown High School, 66th out of 587 (biggest graduating class ever - boomers!). Started at Jamestown Community college, but never finished.

Passion for Baseball: I don't really know how it happened. Started playing the sport through my older brother, and just loved it. Once I started, I couldn't get enough! Wanted to play every day. Always sandlot as a youth. My friends and I would go to the ballfield in the morning and not return home until supper time. I remember playing in February, during a thaw! Once I started working as a teenager (for my dad in his sign business), I would paint and erect signs all day, then pick up my friends in the stake truck and head out to the ballfield until dark. Got away from the game for a while after high school, but then played some softball with the department team one summer, and fell in love all over again. Played softball 17 years (managed the team 10 of those years), then joined an over-40 baseball team. Man, I loved that! Played on the team for 11 years. Finally quit because the team's need to win overcame having a good time. Played every position in baseball. At the end, I was pitching and catching, wearing uniform number 24 (hence, catcher24). I still take my batting tee up to a local field a few times a year and hit some balls. I used to spend hours in the winter playing Strat-O-Matic baseball. It was (and is) a great game. I now spend time with Out of the Park, Version 6.

Work: Worked in a factory assembling voting machines for 3 1/2 years. Didn't care for that much, so took some civil service tests and ended up a deputy sheriff. Have been doing that for 32 years now (1973 to present). I'll be retiring about this time next year. Have worked the road; as a juvenile investigator; in the courts; in our lake/snowmobile unit; and am now the day shift road supervisor. Getting too old to fight with drunks one-third my age; getting tired of car accidents; and the unattended deaths and suicides are a real bummer. 338 days to go, but who's counting!

Married the first time 14 years, two children who are now 30 (son) and 26 (daughter). The second time has worked out much better and I think it will last. A wonderful woman who puts up with my other love (baseball). 20th anniversary this October; one daughter, age 17 and graduating high school next week.

Hobbies: Reading; listening to music; hiking; geocaching; visiting ballparks; visiting lighthouses; and of course, the web, especially BBF. I am also a member of the Friends of the Hall of Fame.

Favorite ballplayers: Lou Gehrig, Willie Mays (you could tell just by watching how much he loved to play), Stan Musial, Cal Ripken, Nolan Ryan, Sam McDowell, Honus Wagner, Walter Johnson, many,many others.

Favorite Movies: Not much of a movie fan, but I enjoyed Superman; Field of Dreams; Bull Durham. Many movies I watched with my daughter as she grew up. And I have to make sure I see one version or another of A Christmas Carol each yule season.

Rock Bands: I enjoy the 60's and 70's music. Beatles, Dave Clark 5, Herman's Hermits, Four Seasons, CCR. Also enjoy John Denver. I lean now towards non-vocal music: Giovanni; Yanni; Narada; Chip Davis and Mannheim Steamroller; Wayne Gratz - a lot of New Age stuff.

No comment on athletes in other sports. I always figured the only real sport is baseball. All of the others were invented to fill the time between the end of the World Series and the start of spring training! I do watch football in the fall.

Favorite Books:

The Image of Their Greatness - Ritter/Honig
The Glory of Their Times - Lawrence Ritter (Just a fabulous book, and whetted my appetite to learn more about the oldtimers)
Voices From Cooperstown - Anthony Connor (Similar to Glory of Their Times)
Bill James Historical Abstract and New Historical Abstract
The Iron Horse - Ray Robinson
Sherlock Holmes by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (the entire series is great)
A Christmas Carol - Charles Dickens

Well, Bill, I hope this helps you know a little about me. Wishing you all the best!
addendum on Dad:
Dad and mom separated when I was about three. Mom raised four of us. I think it drove her crazy, because she hasn't been right since then.
Dad owned a sign business (him and usually one helper during the winter; three or four during the summer - busy months). Naturally, I worked for him after school and summers. Not necessarily a good thing. Didn't play baseball in high school because dad objected - needed me to work. I did appreciate the fact that he took us once a year to Cleveland or Pittsburgh for a ballgame. I really can't say he is a hero figure to me - wish I could. However, it always seemed his friends and trumpet playing (he did that evenings and weekends) were usually more important than the family. He finally divorced mom (Nevada) after, like, 17 years of separation. My relationship with dad is, well....different, I guess, would describe it.

Originally posted by neverjustagame:
Dads that think you are not good enough for their daughters.

Scott,you don't have any daughters, do you, or you would understand completely! :laugh

Your bio is especially interesting to me. I have a younger brother who lives in Columbia, SC. He makes neon signs. He's lived in SC about 28 years now. I also have an older brother who got his medical degree from the USC, Columbia - his was actually the first medical doctor class to graduate from the Columbia campus - all 33 of them. He lives and practices in North Carolina now. Saw the Cards play one time, in Pittsburgh in 1963. Wanted to see the Cards because I was a big Stan Musial fan. Saw Stan go 0 for 3 and make an error on an easy fly to left, but at least I saw him play in person. That was also the game at which I got my only in-person autograph - Minnie Minoso.

Posted by RuthMayBond:
Glad to hear someone else had their first game at ol' Municipal

Well add me to that list as well. June, 1961. My dad drove us out to old Municipal to see the Yankees. I don't live too far south of Eden - about 50 miles. RMB knows where - he's driven past!
As with Shoelessjoe3, the impression the ballpark made was amazing - and indelible. The grass was greener than green; the infield looked so smooth you thought you could shoot marbles on it. The baselines and balls were snow white. Everything was perfect. To this day, I'll go out of my way to see a ballpark, whether there is a game going on or not. Did it on vacation last week actually. Was in Charlotte, so drove down to see Knights Stadium across the line in South Carolina. Couldn't stay for the game later that evening, but had to see the park!

Thanks to bbref, I have narrowed it down to either the 13th or 14th of June. Roger Maris homered, and he did so on both of those dates. Unfortunately, I can't remember enough about the game to lock in which of the two dates it was.

06-13-2005, 09:24 PM
Hello Bill. I've been meaning to get around to this; in fact, I started on a Word document that went down when I had a computer snafu (a story I and my ENG 102 instructors are familiar with). Anyway, here we go:

Name: Evan

Occupation: Student

Age: 31 (I waited awhile to become a student, which I've found is different from attending college. Not everyone that attends college is a student).

Work: I maintain the grounds at my apartment complex in exchange for free rent and a modest check every Friday, and I do mean modest.

Work experience: The inevitable and oh-so-appropriately-ambiguous "Customer Service Representative" at a number of places. Runner for a law office (my mothers husband's) where I also kept the books and did the (not legal) filing. Security/Central Vac/Audio/Intercom rough-ins for a security company; basically, I ran wire, almost exclusively for new construction homes. Ceramic tile salesman (2 1/2 years); started in the wharehouse (I ran a mean forklift) and got promoted because I was helping the lead salesman sell tile, so they had to start giving me commision, later I would leave that job and become the assistant for a tile layer. Outside Service Professional; golf course work. I started as a cartwasher at the Raven, a premium (read, expensive) golf course in PHX. #1 rated service staff in the whole wide world, due mostly to the sheer volume of services performed; no guest ever carried their clubs from the parking lot to the bag drop, as a for instance. I eventually got the call up from cartwashing duties to OSP duties; man, the responsibilities: bag drop, practice facility coordinator (you have to keep track of groups and prepare them for their tee time--a lot like babysitting), starter (you keep the sheet that runs the whole course for the day--a groups name, the actually time they teed off; you screw this up and it makes this job harder), Player Assistant (if you've played golf, you are very likely to be familiar with the "ranger." PA is much like a ranger--or marshall--except you don't simply look at the starter's sheet and check the group's time and tell them to pick it up, you do what's known as "forecaddying," which means you got to a slow group, never tell them they're playing too slow, and do the following: hide in the trees about 225 yards ahead of them, show them where their giant slice landed, tell them the best way to avoid the next 10 strokes they'll likely incur if they don't listen to you--course knowledge is required for this, and no one knew the Raven like I did; I'd been all over that course whileplaying it--tend the flag, mark their ball, clean their ball, rake the bunkers, anything that catches them up to the group in front of them. As a PA you are resposible for the pace of the golf course, The Raven had a PA for both nines; we simply didn't have rounds over 4 1/2 hours on single tee days. Double shotgun days, well, there's only so much you can do. There were a few days during DS's when I spent 4 hours at a single hole, just tending the flag and moving groups through, always at hole 7, a very long par 3 with water all along the left. You get 'em through that hole, then radio the back 9 PA, and wash your hands of it; it's his potato then.) Worked for three other AZ courses, then sorta stopped working till I was hired to work at a head shop. After that, I decided that I was ready to become a student, rather than simply a person that attended college.


Interests: Well..baseball, for starters. Geology, music, poker, math, movies, comedy, sarcasm, basically anything I've studied or become a semi-expert in. The list is too hard to memorize or remember.

Two time All State trumpet player. Currently a guitar player
Favorite bands: Tool, Korn, System of a Down, Metallica, Staind, Jethro Tull, Beatles, Pink Floyd, Pearl Jam, Alice Cooper, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, and probably a dozen or more that I can't think of or don't need to list.
Favorite artists: Jimi Hendrix, Robert Johnson, Otis Redding, Leadbelly, Son House, Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters, Skip James. Yeah, I'm a blues enthusiast, and a general expert on Robert Johnson. Oh yeah, Stevie Ray Vaughan. And John Hartford (bluegrass, rawbluegrass. Somebody's inevitably beren left out.

Third generation Cards fan. Grew up watching games with my grandma (in AR), now in the good place with Jack Buck himself. Didn't play much organized ball past Little League, though my arm was a prized comodity. Had a bad experience, turned to tennis. Just don't feel like discussing what happened.
Favorite all time player: Ray Lankford (Junior Griffey in 2nd)
Favorite current player(s): Albert Pujols, Bobby Abreu, and (Free!!!!!) Scott Hairston.

I've been writing this post in the middle of fertilizing the grass and watering it, and I've spent a damn good deal amount of time on this, so I have to say, I'm stopping now. Forgive whatever problems there might be here with this post; I'm quite frazzled right now.

06-14-2005, 12:36 AM
Where to start....
Johnny Forget.....Yeah....You read right...but in french it's pronounced somewhat like : four-jet

Born on march 22nd 1956 in the Most beautifull city in North-America ; Montréal.
My origins are mixed; french-mohawk-irish-german people around me say that's the reason for my personality... :rolleyes:

Was literature student at McGill U. but I dropped out and then life started...

Had serious health problems last year. Got 2 operations, now in remittance but will have to be "followed" for the remainder of the duration. What pisses me, is that I did not look and still don't with a serious medical condition to the point that I never told some of my family and most of my friends.

My passion for BB came from my father but alas I never could communicate with the guy and we never shared on the subject. The only things I know about him and BB are : he saw Jackie Robinson play in Montréal and loved the guy, his favorite players were Stan Musial, Ted Williams and Sandy Koufax and finally he was a rabid Red Sox fan.

I work for the Montréal Casino as a croupier. I always was an adventurer, jack of all trades and master of none...Military, kitchen chef, body guard (I'm 5'10 and I weighed maybe 170 then :eek:) Limo driver, fishing and hunting guide...the list goes on...

Ball player : Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Walter Johnson, Babe Ruth, Sandy Koufax

My cultural references are mostly french, but my family and my personal interests for history, have allowed me to learn and love people like : John Garfield, Paul Robeson, Louis Prima, Bob Dylan (On 9-1-1, my sister phoned to tell me what was going. I opened the TV, and the lyrics of song I was listening to where : "When you ain't got nothing, you ain't got nothing to lose", it sent chills down my spine.)

Love old french, english and american films and music. Seems to me that all that suffering from the 2 WW's and the depression gave people a sense of the beautifull, especially in songs and music. There is a certain tenderness wrapped in respect and devotion that we do not see anymore.

I miss listening to Johnny Carson...Never transfered my adulation to those still in place and never will from the likes of them...

My football team always was and will be the Steelers.

The Man I admire the most is my Father. When I was about 20 years old, I gave him the greatest compliment I could when I said to him, in front of all of the family : If in my life time, if I can put as much on the dinner table as you did on mine, then and only then would I be able to say I have made it. I still have waaayyyy to go...

Got to go, hope my entry will enlighten you as to my personality....Like the poet said, "Good night, take care, be nice....and if you are not...do it twice...
Joseph Henri Lionel...Lionel, My old man was a man of his Times. He never talked about his life and misfortunes. Most of what I know about him came from his brothers, his sisters and my mother. I was 26 years old when one night we got to talk as friends instead of father-son. It was a night that still brings a lot of emotions. 3 years later he was dead.
He enlisted in the Royal Canadian Navy at 17 in 1940. His trade was blacksmith-stoker. His ship, the Teme, a frigate, was torpedoed on March 29, 1945 while escorting a convoy; he was wounded. After the war he became a fireman like his old man (My grandad was captain of a fire brigade, he died following some bad smoke inhalation, he was 49). Couple of years later he got married and 6 monts later, his wife (my mother) had to be admitted for tuberculosis, she spent the next 5 years in the hospital. He visited her every day he was not on duty to a point he, himself, had to be admitted for treatment against TB. Coming out of that one, he got severely wounded while on duty; double skull fracture, loss of an eye and loss of vision in his other eye and to top it all, they announced to him that he was and had been all of his life a serious diabetic...!!! He should not even have been accepted in the Navy...But in those days they needed men and they did not care for trivialities like Diabetes. The city said to him: "Don't sue us and we will guaranty you a desk job...2 years later they dismissed him and he had no legal recourse...prescription for suing was in effect. After all that, found himself a job as a salesman in men's clothing and finally raised a family of three, both my sisters and I, got to buy his little house in the suburbs, and became an expert fisherman. Eventually he got blind because of the Diabetes and he died in 1986 at 62. His generosity, his intellect, his persona, are still talked about amongst friends and relatives. Being the oldest son he started to work young and took care of business. He was considered the head of the family Clan. He was my father. Sometimes, I would have liked to be his friend, but he insisted to be my father, and for that, I will be eternally gratefull.

06-14-2005, 01:51 AM
I figure everyone else has done this so I might as well. My name is Ian, but I chose iPod as my account because that's my nickname with my friends from high school, for some reason which I've never figured out.

I'm 19, originally from Sacramento but going to college at UC Berkeley (just finished my 2nd year there) and thus living in the Bay Area now, majoring in Economics.

I got interested in baseball mostly because of my dad I suppose; no real story behind it. I suppose I could have easily ended up an A's fan, since Sacramento is I'd say about 60% A's fans, 40% Giants fans, though that seems absolutely bizarre to me now. Loved Matt Williams. With a few better breaks, he'd have been headed to Cooperstown. Oh well.

06-14-2005, 02:32 AM

Let's do this thing...

Name: Matthew Souders

Born on October 16th, 1981 in San Diego, CA, but spent all of 10 months in the state before my father was transfered to Northern Virginia for the fourth of his 11 different postings in the US Navy. I feel no allegiance to California as a result.

I started watching/following baseball a little late...I was about 10 when I went to my first ballgame...it happened to be while I lived in Seattle, and so I got acquainted with Ken Griffey Jr, Jay Buhner, Chris Bosio, Randy Johnsno, Dave Flemming, Pete O'Brien...etc...during the hopeful days of the 1992/1993 Mariners. Since then, I've been a rabid Mariner fan through good times and bad.

I moved away from Seattle less than a year after that game to Northern VA again...this time for good...learned to despise the Orioles and Peter Angelos (there has been bad blood between Seattle and Baltimore ever since a series of three bench clearing brawls in 1992 and 1993, though that rivalry has cooled off of late) and struggled to keep up with my Mariners all through the miraculous 1995 season.

From early on, I liked the statistics of the game, but I did nothing more than dabble with the simplest of statistics until I got much older and started to understand advanced math. My real interest in Sabermetrics started at age 18 and serious work on the predecessors to PCA began at age 20 (2001) while I was at Penn State. The final form of PCA didn't come about until last year so you can see how long I stumbled around with weaker methods.

My favorite player is Edgar Martinez. He embodied everything I loved about the refuse to lose Mariners. He was a warrior. I remember a game in 2003 where as he was struggling with a broken foot, and playing through it (wincing on every swing from the pressure he had to put on his broken toes) he fouled a 98 mph fastball off the foot. He went down in a heap and I thought that was it...thought he'd be done for the year. But less than a minute later he limped back to the plate after clearing the tears from his eyes and homered to deep left to tie the game. That's baseball.

The man I most respect (outside my family...that's been said. :) ) and away from on-the-field accomplishments by ballplayers is Bill Jams. The actual work he did in he field of sabermetrics, while not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, was groundbreaking, and resourceful...it opened p the field to a lot of other good thinkers and in totality, James advanced sabermetrics further than any one individual.

I am still "attending college" as therealnod put it...although in the field of baseball statistics I take my studies VERY seriously. Randy Fiato (TKD) can attest to that. :) I am beginning to actually become a "student" of meteorology as well. After graduating from a magnate school for the gifted and talented in math and science, I went to college dead certain I was going to be a meteorologist. Three years later I'd dropped out of Penn State, changed majors 4 times, and made no significant progress. Now I'm back in meteorology and more prepared for (and exited about) the curriculum. I am currently getting my BS in Meteorology from the State University of NY, Oswego campus.

Culture? What's that? Seriously though, I like any music that actually sounds like music and is not just screaming and/or noise. (read: song must have melody, harmony, and clarity, which excludes rap, most R&B, and most of non-pop country music as well as a good chunk of 60s and 70s alternative rock and anything that could be classified as esoterica).

Continuing in my ultimate practice of geekism, I'm a big fan of most American Science Fiction and fantasy (not the type of idiot who stands out in lines for four days waiting to buy tickets to see Star Wars or goes to annal conventions to prove his devotion) from Star Trek to Stargate to Lord of the Rings (yes I know...not American). I'm also a bit of a 90s sitcom junkie if anyone cares.

Apart from working toward two publications on PCA and all of the research associated with the project, my dream is to contribute to baseball in some way..I'd like to work for a front office, or start a statistical consulting firm to advise multiple teams.

anything else anyone wants to know?
addendum on Dad:
As I hinted at...my father was in the Navy for 22 years. He was a naval submariner...started out as a navigator and nuclear reactor technician, and after fourteen years was promoted into command (first as an executive officer then a commanding officer).

The fact that it took him 14 years to earn command rank is a part of what made him a good father...he chewed out some admirals and refused an assignment in his 6th year because they told him he could stay in Connecticut where he'd bought a house and then assigned him to a ship in port in down east Maine.

Life is all about choices and he chose several different times to do things that were contrary to his career to protect his family. He's now an analyst for civilian companies advising the Navy and Marine Corps.

Is he one of my heroes? I would say it's a sad family where a child doesn't look up to his father. Of course he's a hero of mine, though I'm not 10, and I understand his faults.
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06-14-2005, 07:17 PM
Name: Isaac

Age: 16

Passion for Baseball: My dad always took me to Padre's games, and, while I always enjoyed baseball, I had to get older before I could really appreciate it. Once I did studying Tony Gwynn became my passion, then baseball history in general. The first book about old time ballplayers I ever read was Al Stump's Cobb, I later discovered Baseball Almanac then Baseball Fever (though it took me three years to be able to post... as a matter of fact, this is my first post on this site.) Now I love everything about the game, and my belief that Ty Cobb was the greatest ballplayer of all time was cemented by reading Mr. Burgess' debates during the three years I couldn't post.

Hobbies: Reading, Writing, Baseball.

Favorite Book: The Brothers K, by David Duncan

Work: Part-time job as an umpire.

Favorite Ballplayers: Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Eddie Collins, Roberto Clemented, Willie Mays, Ted Williams, Tony Gwynn, Walter Johnson, Trevor Hoffman.
Actually Bill, believe it or not, I joined Baseball Fever before I joined MLB Center, but, for some reason or another, I was never allowed to post, or even vote on polls. I haven't had a lot of time to visit MLB Center, and my school doesn't allow Baseball Fever (even though the computers don't have a problem with MLB Center- go figure), so I've only recently been able to check this place out again. Don't worry, I plan on posting a lot on this site, much more than I ever did on MLB Center.
Isaac's Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profile&id=100000990125010#!/profile.php?id=100001127737046)

06-15-2005, 02:54 PM
Name: Chris
Age: 21
Location: San Diego California
Occupation: Aerospace engineering Major
Most admired current baseball players: Kahlil Greene, Mark Loretta, Jake Peavy, Trevor Hoffman, Adam Eaton, Jason Schmidt, J.T. Snow, Omar Vizquel, Todd Helton, Jason Jennings, Steve Finley, Luis Gonzalez, Greg Maddux, Derek Lee, Scott Rolen, Larry Walker, Oliver Perez, Jason Bay, Ben Sheets, Roger Clemens, Reggie Sanders, Al Leiter, AJ Burnett, Josh Becket, Pedro Martinez, Ichiro Suzuki, Barry Zito, Mark Mulder, Johan Santana, Carl Crawford, Randy Johnson, Roy Halladay, Curt Schilling, Brad Lige, Billy Wagner. Those are the ones that come off the top of my head but alot of professional baseball players I admire cuz its a tough life.

Players I dont admire so much: Barry Bonds there are others i dont like in competition for their attitudes and whatnot but he is the only one i cant stand currently.

Historical players I admire: Tony Gwynn, Ken Camininti, Walter Johnson, Nolan Ryan, Christy Matthewson, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Warren Spahn, Roberto Clemente, Carl Yaztremski, Rollie Fingers, Goose Gossage, Mike Schmidt, Honus Wagner Just a few off the list could go on alot more but again top of my head.
Historically there arent many players who are remembered i dont at least have respect for.

Baseball figures i dont admire: George Steinbrener, Ted Turner, Donald Fehr, in addition to this historically anyone who tried to keep baseball segregated i dont have much admiration for.

Baseball figures I admire: John Mcgraw, Connie Mack, Red Barber, Jack Brickhouse, Ernie Harwell, Jerry Coleman, Branch Rickey.

Americans I admire most: Jackie Robinson, Ronald Reagan, General Patton, Admiral Nimitz, Harry Truman, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Robert Lee, Many many many more I just cant think of em all.

Music I like: Country, Rock, Classical.... pretty much anything but rap and hip hop
I also admire many people on this site for their wisdom about our national pastime its great to meet so many so interested in the greatest game ever invented.
Hobbies: I am studying the martial art of surinji kempo, played football for 4 years in high school and wrestled for 2, would have stuck with baseball through high school and as far as i could but i ran into politcal problems in pony league and just got sick of it. I wanted nothing more than to pitch it was my favorite part of baseball(I got clocked at 74 when i was 12) but managers always let their son take the mound.
I enjoy listening to music alot and reading on scientific and religous matters quite a bit. This is a bit about me in a nutshell.

06-17-2005, 12:16 AM
My name is Randy Fiato. Born in Seoul, South Korea on July 24, 1983 (the exact day of the infamous George Brett Yankees/Royals "pine tar" game), I came over to the States in January of 1984 and have lived in the Northeast ever since. I grew up in the suburbs of Albany, NY and moved to southwestern Connecticut after college.

I attended RPI (Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, for those of you unfamiliar with the abbreviation) and majored in Computer Science with a double minor in Management & Technology and in Music. My specialties in CS are C/C++/PHP/SQL with a focus on Unix and Web development. Music was more for my personal enjoyment (as well to forge a coherent path through the humanities requirements), although I am largely self-taught in composition and theory. I compose in the little spare time that I have.

My day job involves software engineering of portfolio analysis applications, a very interesting and complex field with some analogies to baseball analysis.

One thing about me that surprises most people who "know" me through the Internet is that I didn't start following baseball until I was 13. Basically, the influence of friends (mostly Yankee fans -- blame them for my current allegiance ;)) in junior high jumpstarted the whole thing. Do the math and you'll realize that I started following baseball in late 1996. So I've been blessed with comparatively good times throughout my tenure as a baseball fan.

Being mathematically inclined, I naturally gravitated toward sabermetrics once I had learned the basics of the game. My current endeavor in this regard is working with SABR Matt on PCA, where I've been focusing on the automation of its calculation and various extended applications of it.

My favorite player is (to Matt's chagrin ;)) Alex Rodriguez. Ironically, my previous favorite player was Alfonso Soriano... but I had no issues sending Soriano and a minor-leaguer to Texas for a future first-ballot Hall of Famer.

That's my story in a nutshell (albeit a very big one). :)

06-17-2005, 09:15 PM
Age: 34

Name[s]: Ed, Eddie, Edward,Lalo, Omer

Favorite basball player all-time: Tim "Purple" Raines, aka "Rock"

Favorite teams: Reds, late seventies, Montreal Expos 1981-1991, 1993-4, 2001, Chicago White Sox 1992-1995, 1998-present, New York Yankees 1996-98, Boston Red Sox, more or less always, but especially since 1986, ocassionally will root for the underdogs like Giants and Angels in 2002, Marlins 2003, Cubs always

Favorite current players: Frank Thomas and Tadahito Iguchi

Favorite pitcher? Haven't had that many. I was excited for Langston in 1989 in Montreal. Now I like to see any White Sox pitcher do really well, Buehrle, Garland, Garcia, etc...

Favorite book? Book of Mormon. You couldn't ask for anything more inspirational. The Bible is essential to get the full picture.

Favorite authors: Arthur C. Clarke, C.S. Lewis, Isabel Allende, Chaim Potok, John Steinbeck, Jack London, and all the prophets, modern and old. There's a few more. Most dedicated journalists.

Favorite music: many kinds, but latley Silvio Rodriguez, and Samuel Barber's "Agnus Dei". I have always like rock and enjoy traditional artists like Sting, Pink Floyd, Rush, Beatles, etc. Large variety, including some Latin music and Andreas Bocelli. Ray Lynch is cool, plus John Williams.

Favorite pastimes: Reading, watching sports, writing, attending church meetings and learning lessons in life and classes.

Favorite sports:Basketball, football, baseball, soccer, Olympics, tennis

Playing? Basketball, tennis, ping-pong, softball, touch football, soccer, swimming

Favorite president? Maybe Eisenhower, but Lincoln and Washington are hard to beat.

06-20-2005, 08:57 PM
I don't do much in these parts - I consider 'Current Events' and 'Sabremetrics...' to be more my area of... expertise isn't the right word for it, how about 'knowledge'?

A lot of this is, no doubt, due to age. I'm 21, as of this past November, and a college student on the south side of Chicago after spending my first 18 years in Naples, FL. I've been watching baseball for as far back as I can remember - my earliest baseball-related memories are of Don Mattingly hitting game winning HRs (or what I remember being game-winning HRs; for all I know for sure they could have been routine fly balls to right field :D), and this, being a time before baseball came to Florida, made me a Yankees fan. I've followed the Marlins pretty seriously since they came into the league as well, making the 2003 World Series a really good one for me. :)

I try to remain more or less non-partisan when it comes to everything except actually watching the games.

Not married, no kids. My dad taught me everything he knew about baseball, including being my little league coach for a number of years. I returned some small portion of the favor a few years later, when I, as a high school junior and senior, helped turn a couple of his pitchers into world beaters. At the time, I was a reasonably decent high school pitcher (with a fastball in the upper 60s), but I knew enough about mechanics and staying healthy that he let me work with his pitchers too.

Right now, as far as baseball goes, my focus is on injuries, pitching mechanics, and sabermetrics. The physical side of baseball is one that goes largely ignored, although it does seem to be picking up a bit in the mainstream press. I'd love for the media and my fellow fans to get past the idea that getting injured is simply down to a lack of toughness or 'manhood', an idea that still has a surprisingly strong grasp.

My favorite players: Don Mattingly, Bernie Williams, Tim Raines, Andre Dawson, Alex Rodriguez, Manny Ramirez

Favorite pitchers: Randy Johnson, Mark Prior, Josh Beckett, AJ Burnett, Pedro Martinez

Authors: Kurt Vonnegut, Fyodor Dostoevski, Vladimir Nabokov, Douglas Adams, Jonathan Swift

Books/Short Stories: "Harrison Bergeron", Vonnegut; "Invitation to a Beheading", Nabokov; "Slaughterhouse-five", Vonnegut; "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", Adams; "A Modest Proposal", Swift; "Breakfast of Champions", Vonnegut

President: Hard to beat FDR in my mind. Lincoln and Washington were great as well.

Music: Hard to tie down. I'm really all over the place here, so I'll offer up a completely at random list: Clinic, Queens of the Stone Age, Franz Ferdinand, The Shins, Spoon, Nine Inch Nails, Muse, System of a Down, The Faint, The Hives, Themselves, The Notwist, Kings of Leon, Sage Francis, Aesop Rock, A Perfect Circle, Pink Floyd, Radiohead, Deftones, and I've liked a lot of what I've heard lately from Kraftwerk and The Raveonettes.

Hobbies: Baseball, soccer (increasingly - especially over the past few years, perhaps tied to the US's World Cup run in '02), web design, politics (I'm about as far to the left as I can be and still consider myself a Democrat. :) )

06-25-2005, 08:29 PM
I'm bored and remembered I never posted in this thread, so I thought I'd put mine in now.

Name: Kyle Alan Manning
Age: 20
Hometown: Oxford, IN
Marital Status: Single(99% chance of that never changing)
Religious view: Atheist
IQ: 150~

About me: Graduated from Benton Central High School in 2003(same HS as Splendid Splinter by the way). Went to Purdue University for a year but had a lot of problems(personal and family) along with just hating college so that didn't work out. Spent a year trying to get stuff worked out and trying to find a job, was succesful with neither. So now I'm going to Indiana Business College because its only a year and a half for a degree and it seems I won't be getting anywhere without a degree of some sort. I'm studying Accounting.

Probably the thing that distinguishes me the most from people is that I'm a stutterer. Always have been since I learned to talk. Definatelly not the easiest thing to work through in life. It wasn't really that bad in highschool, but has gotten worse since. This is also why my writing may seem strange at times... my main tool to get around stuttering is to find words I can say instead of ones I can't. Doing this for so long, my vocabulary is rather screwed up, and as I've noticed from internet messageboards my posts usually come out looking different than most peoples. I think this is why.

And probably the craziest thing about me is that I'm a storm chaser. I don't have the $$ to be like the guys you see on TV, but I do the best I can with what I have. Unfortunately the amount of severe weather around here the last few years hasn't been much, so I don't really have film of anything interesting.

Sports stuff: My favorite sport isn't the same throughout the year. From March to September, its baseball. From October to February its football. As can be easily guessed from my username, I'm a Michigan fan for college sports. About as die hard as they come. Don't have a favorite NBA or NFL team, usually just follow Michigan players in those sports. I'm starting to become a Houston Texans fan, though. In baseball my favorite teams are Tampa and the Cubbies.

I've never been big on playing sports. Oddly enough I never played baseball or football despite my love for them. I played basketball through elementary school, but didn't continue. Mainly because my style was... uh... too "physical" and I had(have) a short temper. I always led my teams in steals, blocks, rebounds, fouls, technical fouls, and ejections. So I didn't continue playing when I got to HS. The only sport I'm any good at is bowling. Always loved to do that, and can be damn good at it. When I'm dedicated to it, I can carry a 195+ average. I'm not that dedicated though, mainly because I don't have enough $$ to bowl a lot. So my average is only 170 right now and I'm incredibly erratic(example a couple weeks ago, my series was 252 160 210).

Why I'm here OR My love for Baseball: I started getting into baseball when I was 4. I forget where I was, but I remembered seeing either the game or highlights of a young Texas Ranger hitting a homerun off of Roger Clemens. It was probably the first time I ever saw a baseball game. That Ranger was of course Sammy Sosa. So I decided he was my favorite player and started following him. I didn't really start getting into baseball except for Sosa until I got the internet, which as it happened coincided with Sammy's magical '98 season. I followed some of the sport until about '02 when something triggered me researching the game. I don't really know what, but I got really interested in baseball. This is when I started soaking up every bit of information I could find about the game. Almost instantly I fell in love with old time baseball and especially the Deadball Era.

Now onto the lists! Alltime favorite in bold, current favorite in italics

Favorite Baseball Players: George Sisler(great player AND a Wolverine! can't beat that), Ty Cobb, Christy Mathewson, Walter Johnson, Addie Joss, Honus Wagner, Josh Gibson, Satchel Paige, Cool Papa Bell, Tim Wakefield, Sammy Sosa, Victor Martinez, Carl Crawford, Joey Gathright, Rich Hill

Favorite Football Players: Charles Woodson, Bennie Joppru, Tom Brady, Braylon Edwards, Barry Sanders, Tim Biakabutuka, Robert Gallery, Jon Jansen, LaDanian Tomlinson, Drew Brees, Brett Favre, Tedy Bruschi, Jerame Tuman

Favorite Basketball Players: Chris Webber, LeBron James, Oscar Robertson, Louis Bullock, Robert Traylor, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlin, Cazzie Russell, John Stockton, Jalen Rose, Juwan Howard, Jimmy King, Ray Jackson

Favorite Movies: Twister, Field of Dreams, The Natural, the Star Wars movies(Episode III), Shawshank Redemption, Se7en, 21 Grams, Swordfish, Office Space

Favorite Artists/bands: Edwin McCain, MetallicA, AC/DC, Lifehouse, Meatloaf, Denali, Pretty Girls Make Graves, Garth Brooks, 90 Day Men, Ice Age, John Cougar Mellencamp. Rest of my music tastes can be summed up here: My Audioscrobbler Page (http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/kmanning/)

I think thats enough to sum up who I am.
open letter to kyle from west coast orange and black (Tony):

dude, you seem pretty normal; your post is indistinguishable from all others in most ways. the only thing that makes it different to me is that it includes a part of your life that has been painful for you.

stuttering has been found to exist in every culture that has ever been on this planet, down to even the most remote of island regions. it affects males at a 16:1 ratio over females.

the path that you have chosen is a curious choice to me, man. you seem to be saying that you limit yourself to words that you can say so that you can get your words out. i say curious because you are able to say every single word in the english language... just not always exactly when you wish to.

probably, when speaking, you are very hyper-conscious of your audience and do not want to make them wait or be uncomfortable. i say hell with them. if they care then they will wait all day for you, if need be.

hopefully, you will not continue to limit yourself, as you have done: an expansion of vocbulary puts more choices at your fingertips when you do get stuck >>> you can work your way around the wall rather than try to force yourself through it. an expanded vocabulary is a very helpful tool.

i do not know what work you have done with speech therapists, kyle, but try to remember to breathe, to be patient with yourslef, and to try to not be so hard on yourself. many stutterers fall into the trap of setting themselves up because they can "feel" the sound/word that will get them stuck... and then they ultimately do get stuck... almost according to a plan.

there are many "tricks/devices" that stutterers can use to "get the words out". and these methods can be honed to the degree that the audience is not even aware that stuttering is taking place directly in front of them.


i very much appreciate your openess and unveiling of a part of your life that is difficult and at times painful. many 20 year-olds, hell, many people twice your age don't have that kind of guts. ultimately, dude, be kind to yourself, k?

and oh, from your post, i can not gather that you stutter: your words in print are just fine and "normal". tony.

What about Night of the Twisters?

Ooh I love that movie and the book. I had forgotten about it. If only my VCR worked I'd watch it right now. I think they show it on one of the ABC Family channels quite a bit so I'll have to wait for that.

Tony: Thanks for the support. I agree that the route I've taken isn't exactly the best, but we haven't been able to afford to goto therapists so I've had to make do on my own. I did find a voc rehab place around here thats going to help me with financial aid and get me to a therapist and pay for it all, so that should be a lot of help. And I think the strange thing about the way I get around the stuttering is I'm not limited to small words.. a lot of times I can't say a small word so I use a large one. It just makes my vocabulary very strange at times.
To Kyle: From Splendid Splinter (Bart Schutter)

I went to high school with Kyle and we're in the same grade. We had a few classes together throughout the years. Actually, the more I think about it... we had a lot of classes together.

He was always comfortable with me and didn't stutter that much at all. And when he did, it was usually a small word. He has a huge vocabulary while I'm quite the opposite. I think the reason we got along so well was because he had a problem and I had a problem (deaf, wearing a hearing aids and also really, a speech problem), so I know what he was going through, to some extent. While I didn't stutter, I never had a huge vocabulary because 75% of the time, I couldn't say the word right or couldn't say at all. I was always patient with him and listen to him when he talked. And when he did stutter, I knew what he was saying too.

"probably, when speaking, you are very hyper-conscious of your audience and do not want to make them wait or be uncomfortable. i say hell with them. if they care then they will wait all day for you, if need be."

That, right there, is probably the best advice I have ever heard from someone to someone with any problem. I have the same mindset like you Tony. That is when you know who is really your friends and who are people that you just hang out with. All I can say is, Patience is the key. It just pisses me off so much, if someone doesn't have to listen or they are umcomfortable and can't understand and then just leave you alone. Then the biggest thing that gets me is if someone makes a joke or makes fun of a person with a problem. I've been in a few fights because of that. Some of them were just total strangers.

Kyle doesn't know this, but some of my good friends made jokes about him stuttering a couple times. One day during lunch, one of my friend made a joke and I just went off on him, just yelling and screaming at him. Basically, what I said to him was, if you are making fun of him, you're making fun of me because I'm deaf. Then if you're making fun of me, then you are making of your best friend because he wears glasses. And at last, if you make fun of your best friend, you are making fun of yourself because you are dyslexia and can't read for ****(at that time, only a handful of people knew he had that problem). Well... let me paint a picture at the end of the scene, 3 guys were holding me back and one of them was the principal. After that, I haven't heard a joke from him again when I'm around him.

...I was always patient with him and listen to him when he talked...cornerstones of true friendship
...I've been in a few fights because of that. Some of them were just total strangers.it is said that a man who fights is a man out of options. while i am not so certain of that, ss, if you are going to fight, fight to win. ;)
...Basically, what I said to him was, if you are making fun of him, you're making fun of me... if you're making fun of me, then you are making of your best friend... if you make fun of your best friend, you are making fun of yourself...for me, this is the gleaming gem of your post, dude. good insight into the idea that while all different, we are all the same. take care.

06-25-2005, 09:48 PM
Name: Garrett
Age: 14
Born in Peoria, Illinois, but I never lived there.
Lived from birth to 1996 in West Chicago.
From 1996 to 2002 in Joliet.
From 2002 to current in Vernon Hills.

Pre-school: Tick-Tock Preschool (West Chicago area)
Kindergarten - 5th: St. Raymond's Cathedral (Joliet)
6th - 8th: Daniel Wright Junior High School (Lincolnshire)
Soon to be 9th: Stevenson High School

Live with my mom, my brother, and my Australian Shepherd.
My dad died three days before I was born, from, I believe, Hodgkin's Disease. My mom missed his funeral because she was giving birth to me. Everyone in my family told me I looked more like my dad than my mom and was funny like him too. My mom went to U of I; I got her smarts. :) I could've skipped 3rd grade but wanted to be with my friends. :) My brother's 16, he skateboards, snowboards, plays guitar, and pretends he's good at sports. My mom works for a major plastic cup manufacturing company (take your guess on that one).
My mom remarried (forcing the move to Joliet) a jerk. She divorced him in '01. She's a lot happier now that he's gone, as am I.
I enjoy snowboarding, playing basketball, baseball (especially pick-up games in my neighborhood), used to play soccer, hangin' with friends, going to Cubs games (at least 6 a year), going to S.T. (done so the past 2 years), and watching any baseball game not being announced by Hawk Harrelson.

I played my first season of league baseball last year (my coaches didn't believe that when they found out).
Pretty much, I can't hit, and that's because I've never practiced hitting. But, my teammates often tell me I'm the best fielder in the league (17 teams). I play SS and I love getting dirty. I can pitch (with just three pitches, no warming up, I can hit about 60 mph) but haven't this whole season. I like making web gems.

Who got me started on baseball? I'm with Kyle on this one.
Sammy Sosa on September 13, 1998, I was at Wrigley Field, enough said. I've loved Sammy ever since, still support him.

My favorite sport: Baseball easily. It used to be basketball before '98. I have always hated hockey and curling. :)

Favorite MLB team: The one that resides at 1060 W. Addison St.

Most despised MLB team: White Sox, and just a hair behind, the Cardinals.

Favorite NBA team: Chicago Bulls

Most despised NBA team: Either one that played in the Finals this year.

Favorite baseball players: Sosa, Rodan, Ram-Ram, Ryno, Ron Santo, Ernie Banks, Glenallen Hill, Felix Pie, Brian Dopirak, Eric Patterson, Satchel Paige, Jackie Robinson, Mad-Dog Maddux, Bartolo Colon, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Moises Alou, Kenny Lofton, and Randall Simon.

Favorite basketball players: MJ, Wilt the Stilt, Bob Cousy, Pistol Pete, Grant Hill, KG, Tyson Chandler, and Andres Nocioni.

Favorite sports movies (highest first): Field of Dreams, Hoosiers, Cobb, *61, Hardball, Major League, This Old Cub, Miracle, The Sandlot, Happy Gilmore, Coach Carter, and A League of Their Own. (probably forgetting some)

Favorite other movies: Pretty much anything Adam Sandler pre-Eight Crazy Nights and Punch Drunk Love, Star Wars, Misery, ugghh my brain isn't working.

Favorite director: George Lucas

Favorite music: Classic rock - Zeppelin, Skynyrd, The Who, Pink Floyd, Tom Petty, Guns N' Roses, The Beatles; MoTown; some metal.

Why I'm here: I love baseball, I love learning about baseball, baseball is my life.

06-27-2005, 06:18 PM
Patrick (Scott) Barzilla
Born: November 30, 1973. I lived in Houston all but five years of my life (Fort Worth for college).

I came by my BB passion from Dad. He grew up as a Cards fan because Houston was St. Louis's top farm team before the Colt 45s opened for business. Stan Musial was his favorite player. As a child I read a lot of football and baseball books and began memorizing numbers. Collecting baseball cards also helped in this regard. I guess this is where my roots in sabermetrics go.

Work: 1997-Current: Public school teacher

I teach history and economics right now, but I've also taught government, psychology, philosophy, and English. I also have my masters in Counseling and hope to be a school counselor some day.

Favorite ballplayers: This is going to depend on the time period. I'm partial to Jeff Bagwell as a native Houstonian, but in older players I have to say I have a fascination with Max Bishop. More than anything, I love heady guys that make the most out of what they got. The player that seemed to embody that more than anything when I grew up was Brett Butler. When he played against the Astros I hated that guy, but I respect the hell out of him now.

Favorite movies: Fight Club is the most creative and thought provoking movie I've ever seen. I love movies that dare to challenge me. Memento is another one of those. However, I am a sucker for Star Wars (I don't wait in line for tickets though) and for mindless movies like James Bond

Favorite Rock Bands: Beatles, Pink Floyd, REM, U2, Dave Mathews Band

Favorite Rock CD's: Beatles: Sgt Peppers, Revolver, Abbey Road. Pink Floyd: Dark Side, Wish you were Here, Pipers at the Gates of Dawn. REM: Life's Rich Pagent, Automatic for the People, Murmor. U2: Joshua Tree. Others: Who's Next (The Who), Physical Graffiti (Led Zepellin).

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: George Thorogood's Greatest Hits, Contraband: The Best of Men at Work, Greatest: Duran Duran. The Very Best of Cream.

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jim Thorpe, Babe Didrikson Zaharias, Bo Jackson, Jerry Rice, Michael Jordan, Willie Mays

Favorite Basketball Players: Hakeem Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, Dominque Wilkens

Favorite Football Runners: Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson, LaDailian Tomlinson (I'm a TCU grad after all)

Favorite Movie Directors: David Lynch, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, Steven Spielberg,

Favorite Actors: Tom Hanks, John Cusack, Denzel Washington

Favorite Actresses: Salma Hayek, Rachel Weisz, Angelina Jolie. (Gee, anyone want to guess where my mind is?)

Favorite Books:
The Republic (Plato)
The Prince (Machiavelli)
Fight Club

Favorite Sports Books:
Baseball's Dynasties-- Rob Neyer and Eddie Epstein
Whatever Happened to the Hall of Fame -- Bill James
Various editions of Total Baseball, especially 1st. ed., 1989
Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, by Bill James, 1985, 1988, 2001

Favorite Rock Geniuses: Syd Barrett (Pink Floyd), Pete Townsend (The Who), Eric Clapton, Paul Simon

Favorite Ice Skaters: Katerina Witt

Favorite Rock Voices: Not that into this category

Men I admire Most:

1. Jesus Christ- everything starts with him
2. Winston Churchill- bombing Berlin (thus getting London bombed) might have been the single most difficult and best decision during the war
3. Ghandi- helped liberate India
4. Mother Teresa- should be made a saint before John Paul II

My Most Admired Americans:

No Baseball players just by rule

1. Abe Lincoln- unified this country and made the hard choices when they didn't come any harder.
2. Teddy Roosevelt- Hell, who else is going to get shot making a speech and then finish the speech before he gets medical attention?
3. Thomas Jefferson- Bill hit it on the head
4. George Washington- showed restraint as the first president which established a great precendent for this nation
5. Martin Luther King Jr. - used non-violence to spur forward civil liberty
The funny thing about religion is that while it is important I believe strongly in having an open mind. I understand that my beliefs are my beliefs and aren't necessarily right for everyone else. Yet, I like hearing what others have to say. Of course, this is not the place.
Scott's Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=-3&id=754715872#!/scott.barzilla?v=info&ref=ts)

06-28-2005, 06:34 AM
Age: 39
Married w/ 5 children between the two of us (both previously married)
Retirement planner for state employees

Favorite Music: Swing/Big Band, Motown, Oldies, 80's
Favorite Musicians/Acts: Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole, Sam Cooke, Whitney Houston, Lionel Richie, Whitney Houston
Favorite Movies: Field of Dreams, My Man Godfrey, Ben Hur, LOTR trilogy, The Lion in Winter, The Quiet Man
Favorite Actors/Actresses: Cary Grant, Kathryn Hepburn, Anthony Hopkins, Bill Nighy
Favorite Authors: Francis Schaeffer, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Ron Chernow, William Manchester, G.K. Chesterton, Vince Flynn, George R.R. Martin
Famous Americans I Admire: Robert E. Lee, Douglas MacArthur, Booker T. Washington, James Madison
Others I Admire: Winston Churchill, Benjamin Netanyahu, Lech Walesa
People I Dislike: Jerry Spring, Nikki Minaj, Kassie DePaiva
Pet Peeves: Too numerous to mention, particularly for someone as young as I am

Grew up in Hong Kong, China when it was a British colony. Returned to the U.S. after high school graduation. Went to college, traveled, worked in more occupations than I can remember. Found true love on the second try. Presently completing higher education while getting four girls through high school within a relatively short period of time.

First got into collecting baseball cards at the age of 10. First game was a trip to Riverfront Stadium in 1985 to see Dave Parker and Pete Rose. (Nobody went for Perez or Concepcion. Ever.) Reds remain my home team, even after a decade spent living deep in Cardinals' territory. Biggest thrill as a fan: spending my 16th birthday in Cooperstown (as a suprise)!

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07-01-2005, 08:27 AM
My name is Zack. I'm turning 22 in a few weeks. I live in Suffern, NY.

07-05-2005, 11:31 PM
Name: Harrison

nicknames- Red Rooster, Bronc-Buster, Texas Red


I was born in Amarillo Texas, moved to Highland Rim, then to Houston were I live now.

How I got to know Baseball, I was trained to pitch from a very young age, that and play guitar. My baseball exploits span little-league to my "record setting" last high school season which I know regret ever undertaking here are the stats from that season


W-L 19-15

ERA 4.75

Innings Pitched 200.75(school record)

My goal was to win 20 games(a school record), I fell one short and now I hate myself for it.

Authors: Truman Capote, Jim Bouton, Stephen Jay Gould

Fav Players: Fred Lynn, Carl Yastrzemski, Frank Howard, Ralph Kiner

Fav Pitcher: Rick Wise, Jim Kaat, Joe Niekro, Tug McGraw, Jim Lonborg

Music: Jet( I said are you gonna be my girl?), Marty Robbins( So the story of my life can start and end with you), Jim Reeves(Tell your friend he'll have to goooo...), American Hi-Fi(It's the Art of Losing), Johnny Cash(No the circle won't be broken by and by lord by and by) , Bobby Darin(I wanna dream lover so I don't have to dream alone.), Eddy Arnold(Then if it don't work, then you can tell me goodbye.).

Fav Movie: 12 Angry Men, To Kill a Mocking Bird, Codename: Wildcat.

I inherited my love of baseball thru my father and uncle's urging.

How'd I forget my rodeo stuff, I ride Horses and Broncos during Rodeo season, hence one of my nicknames, which also coinsides with one of my fav. songs "Cowboy In a Continental Suit" by Marty Robbins. Riding is my other passion, it hurts but it's FUN!!!!!

Thats about it..... for now.

07-07-2005, 01:10 PM
Well, let's see....

Name: Wes
Occupation: High school math teacher
Age: 45
Brethren: one brother, in the armed forces to this day
High School: class of 1978, Kirksville, Missouri
College: all over Missouri. 3 degrees, too long a story. :)
I've been a fan of baseball since as long as I can remember, but especially since 1971 when I stumbled across an annual guide in a bookstore while on a summer vacation with our family. I read that book from cover to cover and left it tattered.

Favorite movies: Deer Hunter (1980), Poseidon Adventure (1972), Fisher King (1991), Shawshank Redemption, Appollo 13, About Last Night (1986).

Favorite albums: Frampton Comes Alive..(I've earned at least 2 speeding tix while jamming to that :) ) Where It All Begins (Allman Bros), Rumors (Fleetwood Mac), Layla (Derek and the Dominoes, er.. Clapton)

My tapes collection numbers in the hundreds, and I've spent a lot of time dumping the tapes on to CD-RW discs. Music is my main form of relaxation at home or behind the wheel. For any of you road ragers, I highly recommend creating your own collection. :cool: For those of you who don't listen to much music, I respect that... and there appear to be several posters of all ages who aren't necessarily into music, so we'll move on.

As the name implies, I am a hardheaded traditionalist. You might even say a stick in the mud, although I try as best I can to be good-humored about it. When I first stumbled on to this site, I had loaded myself with a couple of strong cups of coffee from a nearby coffeehouse, and being fully wired I had to make my position clear. Actually, I'm more open-minded now than I was years ago.

Favorite team when I was young: San Diego Padres. Here's how hard-headed I was at the time. My friends in Northern Missouri all liked the Cardinals and even the Royals in the pre-Brett days. I had to be different, and I chose the Padres because they had an awesome offense from the 1970 season in spite of a huge field to play in. In 1971, they found several good young pitchers, including Clay Kirby. I was convinced that the Padres would rule the National League for years to come. I followed the team loyally through the 1985 season, thinking that Tony Gwynn had led the 1984 team to the Series and that they would be back soon. In 1986, the Padres gave up the ghost on contending, and I have followed baseball in general ever since. No favorite teams now, only favorite players and a love of baseball in general.

Favorite players: Tom Seaver, Tony Gwynn, Robin Yount, George Brett, Clay Kirby, Nate Colbert, Dave Winfield, Clarence Gaston, Randy Jones, Bobby Bonds, Mike Schmidt (most of these names were old Padres players, for you young folk)

Current favorite players: Carlos Beltran, Troy Glaus, Tom Glavine, Rafael Palmeiro, Vlad Guerrero, Kirk Rueter (although I think its time he gave it up), Dontrelle Willis, John Smoltz, Andruw Jones, Mike Sweeney, Bill Mueller.

Favorite TV shows: Cheers, especially with Shelley Long as Diane Chambers. Andy Griffith, too.

I miss Johnny Carson. Jay Leno is good, David Letterman has his moments, but Carson ruled.

Gotta go, time to get my fix. :coffee
Addendum on Dad:
My dad taught as a college history professor until he developed cancer when I was 12. It was terminal on the third diagnosis, and that was after he had been given a clean bill of health about 6 months prior. It was a crushing blow, because he was the polar opposite to myself in temperament. Since I was a combative and maybe hot-tempered kid, he was as cool as anyone could ask. I needed his advice and stability. But I held true to my promise to never indulge as he had. His one chink in the armour was that he drank and smoked rather heavily. His favorite ballplayer was Hal Newhauser, and he was prescient on Steve Rogers in 1973 when we saw the Expos play in Jarry Park. He said Rogers would pitch well for quite a while. He was right on, since Rogers had a shot at the 1983 Cy Young at midseason that year.

07-12-2005, 10:37 PM
Name: Shafi McCants

Born: August 15, 1968. Detroit, Michigan: Lived there until I went in the military.

I got into Baseball mostly out of peer pressure at the age of 10. My parents were too busy being "angry black people" to provide any support. All of the kids I went to School with were coming to class in their uniforms and I wanted to fit in with them. I was a pretty bookish kid at the time and had little interest in athletics. I had an older friend in the neighborhood work with me for 2 years to get me to a respectable level of playing ability, the rest I learned about the game was self taught from baseball instructional manuals and practicing fundamentals on my own.

I was underestimated by a lot of kids and coaches so it was very hard for me to pick up with a team. Picked up with my first little league team at 13 and caught and played the outfield was a very good contact hitter in my first season 1 strikeout in 37 AB.

Went to Chadsey High School in Detroit. I made my High School team my freshman year, never missed a day of High School or Baseball practice the best coach I ever played for Mr. Larry Krueger who was also my Drafting teacher was the man who taught me the most about the game of Baseball. I rode the pine until halfway through my junior year when finally stood up to my new coach for some playing time, had little use for politics, nepotism, and being bullied, all of which went on at my High School and started in Leftfield from then on. I was the kid on the team that stuck up for those who were getting screwed. Got the oppurtunity to play at Tiger Stadium 3 times in High School.

I was a good hitter who never cracked in pressure situations, hit 3 Homers in High School (2 off the same pitcher) was the only senior in the outfield my sr. year and I stayed in LF, was a very good defensive player with a gun for an arm (had 7 outfield assists) I still play and coach adult Baseball and I am primarily a CF and still can play both corners. I plan on coaching at the High School level one day.

Work:GM Tech Center Warren Michigan, worked as a Draftsman until GM stopped selling cars in 1986 was taking night classes at Wayne State in Detroit. I went to see a Marine Corps recruiter in Sept of 1986 after I turned 18 and went into the Marine Corps in January of 1987 work in the Motor Transport Field civilian equivalent of a Fleet Manager for a Trucking Firm, have had the additional duties of serving as a Drill Instructor at MCRD San Diego and have Instructor tours at 2 Marine Corps Formal Schools, have served as a School Department Head and a Curriculum Writer. Currently a Master Sergeant stationed in Kaneohe Bay Hawaii. Finishing my BOE in Occupational Education with an emphasis on Instructional Design and Methodology Leaning towards Secondary Education or Cooporate Training after retiring from the Marine Corps.

Favorite Ballplayers: Ted Williams, Alan Trammell, Lou Whitaker, Al Kaline, Charlie Gehringer, Lou Gehrig, Carl Furillo, Roberto Clemente, Jay Buhner, Ken Caminiti, Tony Gwynn, Vern Stephens, Jimmie Foxx, Bob Feller, Bob Gibson, Garry Maddox, Yaz, Hank Greenberg, Dom DiMaggio, Reggie, Curt Flood, Lance Parrish, Jim Hegan.

Favorite Hockey Players: Gordie Howe, Bobby Orr, Red Kelly, Yzerman, Messier, Brian Leetch, Phil Esposito, Jean Beliveau, Scott Stevens, Terry Sawchuk, Jaques Plante, Glenn Hall, Pierre Pilote.

Favorite Movies: Blackboard Jungle, To Sir With Love, A Boy Named Charlie Brown, L.A. Confidential, Porky's trilogy, The Last American Virgin, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Hitch, The Natural, Grace of My Heart, The Dirty Harry Collection, Mo' Better Blues, Used Cars, Enter The Dragon and many others...

Favorite Musicals: Hair, Jesus Christ Superstar, Pippin, Funny Girl, Jeckyl and Hyde, Ragtime.

Favorite Bands/Artists: The Beatles, Chicago, Blood Sweat and Tears, Laura Nyro, The Manhattan Transfer, Basia, Sam Cooke, New York Voices, Jane Monheit, Linda Eder, Hootie & The Blowfish, The Temptations, Carole King, Michael Feinstein, Johnny Mathis, Earth Wind and Fire, Hall & Oates. All 50's Doo-Wop

Favorite Athletes: Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio, Julius Erving, Kareem, Bill Russell, Wilma Rudolph, Arthur Ashe, Tiger Woods, Mark Messier, Gordie Howe.

Favorite Coaches: Pat Riley, Vince Lombardi.

Favorite Nararator: John Facenda

Best Baseball Announcer Pipes: Ernie Harwell, Paul Carey and Harry Kalas

Favorite Books:
Babbitt: Sinclair Lewis
A Farewell to Arms: Hemmingway
The Rise and Fall of an Urban School System Detroit (1907-81) Jefferey Mirel
The Origins of the Urban Crisis: Thomas Sugrue

Favorite Baseball Books:
My Turn At Bat: Ted Williams
All of Bill James' books
Cobb Would Have Caught It: Richard Bak
Baseball Cooperstown and the Politics of Glory: Bill James
Nine Sides of the Diamond: David Falkner

Favorite concert experiences: Prince, Culture Club, Hall & Oates (1984), Tears For Fears (1985), Mr. Mister (1986), Laura Nyro (1989), Manhattan Transfer (1997)

Hobbies: Singing Karaoke, Speaking in Toastmasters International, Drawing Cartoons, Astrology, Reading, Baseball, Music.

07-13-2005, 09:31 AM
Am I the first female-type person to post here?

Name: Annie (Anne Marie)
Born: August 13, 1968, at Grace Cottage Hospital in Townshend, VT.
Education: Jamaica (VT) Elementary, 1974-1980; Leland & Gray Union High School (Townshend, VT) 1980-1986; Marlboro College, 1986-1988. That’s my formal educations, but of course I never stop learning. I learn something new every day.
Residence: the old family home in a tiny southern Vermont village.
Team affiliation: The Red Sox, now and forever.

I am the youngest of five; my sister Linda was born in 1950; Mary in 1954; only brother Terry in 1962; Barbara (Ber) in 1965. We grew up poor, though we kids didn’t realize it. There are different kinds of poverty, and though we didn’t have toys all over the place, we had a great family, good food from the garden and chickenyard, and played outside in the woods and brooks and on the mountain behind the house, hours of wonderful unsupervised, unstructured play, imagination-building play that kids are seldom allowed now.

My earliest memory is of baseball, though I didn’t realize it until a few years ago. I had an image in my mind, which I had thought was a snippet of a dream, of being down the driveway and looking back up at the house, and seeing a big white thing hanging off the gable. A few years ago, as we were talking about baseball (a favorite pastime in my family), Ber said she remembered seeing Linda and Mary hanging a banner, painted on butchers’ paper, off the house, congratulating the Mets on their World Series win in 1969. I described the image I knew of, and it matched Ber’s memory. I was only 14 months old at the time!

Baseball has always been like another member of the family. Since Mom and Dad first met at a baseball game, I guess that’s only natural. Mom was the bigger baseball fan of the two, having followed the Dodgers, and enjoyed watching family and friends in the town team for years. After the Dodgers were torn from Brooklyn, Mom started following the Red Sox – her second team – and for a few years rooted for the laughably inept Mets. She says one of her favorite players of all time was “Marvelous” Marv. I truly became a Red Sox fan in 1978 – and we all know what happened that year.

I played softball one spring in grade school, but it was hardly organized. The 3rd grade teacher Mrs. Hamilton (damn good teacher) was our coach, and we played maybe a dozen games. The highlight for me was hitting a sacrifice fly -- probably my only RBI ever.

I wanted to play softball in junior high, but was dissuaded by a bully, whom I will only call Nemesis. She was vicious to me, since I was a very shy kid, and took great pleasure in backing me into corners and being mean in a way only girls can be. I picked up a bat that first spring in 7th grade, and Nemesis directed a volley of hateful mockery my way, so I dropped the bat and turned away from the field. Ambition often takes a back seat to self-preservation when you’re a shy 12-year-old. (When I say I wanted to play softball, it’s only because girls weren’t allowed to play baseball – too dangerous. We could play field hockey, though, and in my one game, Nemesis made quick work of my shins with her stick. Baseball, by comparison, was about as dangerous as Home Ec.)

Instead of athletics, I excelled in art and writing. I began to be a writer in 1977 – the year Star Wars came out. That movie popped the lid off my imagination, and for a few years all of us kids in the village lived and breathed Star Wars. Eventually my siblings grew out of it, but the stories kept coming to me, and so I began to write them down. I haven’t stopped yet. I have beside me on my desk the manuscript of a novel which was recently rejected – but a good rejection – and so I am polishing it up and will try again, and again, until it catches on someplace.

Writing and art -- and Band, in which I played an indifferent clarinet for 6 years – kept me going through high school. I have developed a deep appreciation for the English language, its history and evolution, and hate to see it used in a lazy, uncaring way (which is why I LOATHE the semi-literate abbreviated internet shorthand). My art teacher wanted me to go to the Rhode Island School of Design, but it cost too much. Aside from two weeks at the Vermont Studio School, I have had no formal art training, but have worked to develop my skill with a brush and pen. I have always wanted to go to art school, but was talked out of it when I was younger, by people who said it was a waste of time. Maybe I'll get to go, someday.

Soon I hope to market my artwork and get the hell out of retail. I work in an expensive, exclusive linen shop in an expensive, exclusive resort town, and I HATE IT. I am far too egalitarian to work in a town where people buy $1000 bedsheets and $6000 dresses and $12,000 crystal vases, and call the shop clerks “honey” and complain about the way “the girl” irons the pillowcases. >>2010 update - still work there. Still hate it. But jobs are scarce...

My other job, my full-time job – and I mean full time – is as caregiver to my elderly parents. Mom’s been in indifferent health since 1980, and this past spring Dad underwent emergency heart-valve replacement surgery to correct a very bad case of congestive heart failure. The past few months have been extraordinarily stressful. Dad’s on the mend, and Mom’s been doing better, but almost every day brings another thing to worry about, another appointment to attend, another pill bottle to refill. I rarely have ten minutes at a time to myself, but do not begrudge my parents any of the time. >> In 2006 Mom underwent surgery to correct an abdominal aortic aneurysm, and spent that summer recovering, and is fine now (winter 2008). It was one of the most stressful and exhausting periods of my life. I thought 2005 was tough but 2006 superseded it by a couple of orders of magnitude.

I take great joy in living where I do. Though winters are about 3 months too long, and I would like to skip out on January-March, I try to see the beauty here in every day. Someone in another post in this thread called Vermont boring, but I can’t imagine living anywhere else. Sure, I’m 15 miles from a movie theater, but I have a mountain (which my parents bought in 1952 for $2000) out my back door, and the best water in the world to drink, from a 150-year-old, hand-dug well, and this morning the sunlight is all bronzy (gonna be a hot day) and gilding the mist and the trunks of the pine trees, and a hermit thrush is singing on the knoll. There are very few times when Vermont is not, to me, the best place in the world. On the morning of 9/11, after being poleaxed by the news, I went up into the woods, into my cathedral of green and gold ash and maple trees, and drank in the peace and beauty there, and knew that the whole world had not ended, or gone insane. Vermont has a lively arts community, and more organic farms for the population than any other state. I decry the fact that Vermont is viewed as little more than an amusement park by many people. It’s not “Ski Country” -- it's my home, my history, my inspiration.

I am unabashedly appalled by organized religion. Faith is a deeply personal thing, and no one has the right to tell anyone else what, how, when and why to worship. I am politically liberal/progressive/independent. Raised by Roosevelt Democrats, I could hardly be anything else.

I dislike cats (and am allergic to them), love wild birds, and would love to have a dog, when I get the time and money to take care of one. I want a Meliteo Kinidio (Small Greek Domestic Dog), which I would name Youkilis – the Greek Dog of Walks. ;)

Music I like: Paul Simon, Dire Straits, Renaissance lute music, Edouard Lalo, Beethoven, Vivaldi, Corelli, Fleetwood Mac, Billy Joel, Telemann, Jean-Pierre Rampal, Fernando Sor, Flatt & Scruggs, Steely Dan, Loreena McKennitt, Foreigner, Norah Jones, The Eagles, Ella Fitzgerald, Thelonius Monk, Jack Johnson, Pat Donahue, Hawaiian slack-key guitar masters, Fleetwood Mac, Rod Stewart, The Stones, Franz Schubert, The Chieftains, Libana, The Gipsy Kings, Duke Ellington, Madeleine Peyroux, Chris Isaak, Niamh Parsons, Rossini, 10,000 Maniacs, Coldplay, Red Hot Chili Peppers, CSNY, CCR, Van Morrison, Brandi Carlile, KT Tunstall, Ben Harper, various world music…

Okay, music I DON’T like: Country-western, hip-hop, rap, heavy metal, and most 20th Century classical. Just about everything else I can tolerate, at least for one song. Even opera.

Movies: #1, hands down – Casablanca. Others, in no particular order: The Princess Bride, the first Star Wars, Rear Window, Top Secret!, Major League, The Sting, All the President’s Men, Good Night and Good Luck, Once, The Truman Show, Double Indemnity, That Darn Cat (the original), The Addams Family, Pirates of the Caribbean, Bringing Up Baby, Amelie, Arsenic & Old Lace, The Philadelphia Story, The Wedding Singer, Strictly Ballroom, Indiana Jones flicks, What's Up, Doc?, The In-Laws (1979), Monty Python & the Holy Grail, GalaxyQuest, The Secret of Roan Inish… and many, many more.

Books: Allspice, by Bertha B. and Ernest Cobb, published in 1927. Three Men in a Boat, by Jerome K. Jerome; Gerald Durrell’s natural history books, also those by Edwin Way Teale and Bernd Heinrich; The Foxfire series; A Strange and Seeing Time, by Elizabeth Byrd; The Wind in the Willows, by Kenneth Grahame – my comfort book (On 9/11 I took that book up in the woods and read it, after ODing on the news); Regency romances by Georgette Heyer, and select fantasy novels. Recently I’ve read Volcanoes in Human History by deBoer and Sanders; The Mother Tongue: English and How it Got That Way, by Bill Bryson; the first nine books in the Stephanie Plum series by Janet Evanovich; Dead Men Do Tell Tales: Case Studies of a Forensic Anthropologist, by Dr. Wm. Maples; The Mummies of Urumchi, by Elizabeth Wayland Barber; Krakatoa, by Simon Winchester; The Crack at the Edge of the World, by Winchester; Catastrophe! by David Keys; The Thursday Next series, by Jasper Fforde; On Writing, by Stephen King. I love to read history books – ancient, modern, what have you. I love many more books than I can possibly list here. I can’t abide lit-fic and modern poetry. Love maps and atlases, and can play with Google Earth for hours.

Baseball Books: The Head Game, by Kahn; Faithful, by King & O’Nan; The Physics of Baseball, by Adair; Game Time, by Angell; Season of the Owl, by Wolff, Jr.; The Year the Yankees Lost the Pennant, by Wallop; The Last Days of Summer, by Kruger; Summerland, by Chabon; Baseball As America; and dozens of others.

Favorite team: The Red Sox, of course, followed by the Blue Jays. In the NL - Giants, Pirates.

Favorite ballplayers, in no special order: Pedro Martinez, Jason Varitek, Tim Wakefield, Nomar Garciaparra, Dustin Pedroia, Kevin Youkilis, Carlos Delgado, Roy Halladay, Bill Lee, Luis Tiant, Dwight Evans, Dennis Eckersley, Brian Daubach… several rosters full. I wish I could have seen Jimmy Collins play.

How I found Baseball Fever: In the spring of 2001, I was looking for the complete lyrics of "Take Me Out To the Ball Game," and found Baseball Almanac through Google. Wandering happily around that outstanding site, I found my way into the forums. After lurking for about 5 months, I joined and began posting on September 7th. I am still quite proud of the day the following winter when Sean invited me to be co-moderator of the Red Sox forum. I can't begin to tell how much I have learned about baseball, and other things from the fine members of these boards.

Magazines I subscribe to: Archaeology, Science News, Smithsonian, National Geographic, The Artist's Magazine, Elysian Fields Quarterly.

Favorite TV, besides baseball: M*A*S*H, Due South, WKRP in Cincinatti (especially the episode with the softball game), documentaries, PBS, The Connections series, Forensic Files, stuff like that. No lowest-common-denominator network junk. Oh, and believe it or not, I like to watch Dr. Who! (The original Dr Who, that is. Tom Baker was the best.)

The little kid in me still loves Looney Toons. Bugs, Daffy, Elmer, Sylvester, Wile E. Coyote, Foghorn Leghorn... Hats off the Chuck Jones, Friz Freling, the artists, voices, musicians... that stuff is artwork. :)

Pastimes and hobbies: BBF, of course; gardening, reading, botany. When I have time – hiking, fishing. Recently I've taken up photography and really want to study this art form.

I have transcribed almost 5 dozen letters written back and forth among my ancestors and family friends during the Civil War, then did genealogical research and hours of looking up regimental rosters and histories in order to footnote them properly. I really ought to type them up someday.

Unusual thing I like to do: walk old graveyards and collect epitaphs, odd names and take rubbings of carvings. I am a member of the Vermont Old Cemeteries Association.

Unusual fact you may or may not believe: I live in a haunted house.

I also once tried to teach myself to speak Irish Gaelic -- even sent away and bought tapes and textbook from a language-tutorial company. I think I got to Chapter Eight and the only thing I can say is Ta na muintir na Gaeltach anseo -- The people who speak Irish are here. I'll never get by in County Cork with only that. But I don't expect to go to Cork any time soon, so that's okay. Maybe I'll take another stab at it someday.

Favorite foods: A picnic. A hot dog, roasted on a stick over a fire in the woods, scorched black, with pine-stick ashes dusting it, with ketchup, potato salad, a pickle and tater chips. Yum! Also baked beans (big beans, baked in a garlic-maple-mustard sauce – no onions or tomato sauce!! – and cooked 6 hours in a stoneware pot), red-flannel hash (especially when the onions and beets start to caramelize).

Things I fear: driving in traffic; most spiders; mockery.

Pet Peeves: people who tailgate; bad drivers in general; the fact that I can get Yankees games on the radio where I live, but not Red Sox games; people who “write” illegible signatures; people who get drunk at ball games; the constant and aggravating misspelling of the word "DEFINITELY" (it's related to "finite" and "infinite" -- there is no "A" in there!!)...

Things I hate: Ostentatious displays of wealth and status. People who have to drive a silver Jag, or build an 18,000 square-foot mansion in order to impress have quite the opposite effect on me. Just as there are different sorts of poverty, there are different sorts of wealth, and I believe that the most precious and rare luxury of all is contentment. You can't plug a big, windy gap in your soul with STUFF. Wealth can’t buy contentment, and lack of wealth doesn’t preclude it. (I don't care too much for money; money can't buy me love. ;))

I also hate the taste of cumin, bitter and spicy foods, lamb, stinky cheeses and most seafood. Also McMansions built on arable land; Hummers; stupid movies; tourists; greed; waste; vulgarity; insincerity; roadside litter, and anything fermented. Can’t drink wine, beer, liquor, anything like that. Makes me sick as a dog.

Recent big purchase: I just bought an 1890s cast iron kitchen range, and intend to build myself a small house around it, just big enough for me (and if I should happen to meet him, the guy I’d share it with). 2006 update: This summer I purchased a ready-made a 16'x20' cabin, (http://www.jamaicacottageshop.com/16x20vtr.asp) at a ridiculous markdown. It was delivered in August. Tucked between pines and gray birches up on the hill, this will be my studio/getaway/guest room.

2010 update - after years of frustrating delay, the cottage is finally becoming my studio. It is insulated, wired, ready to finish off with paint and porch rails and storage for art supplies. I'll get a dorm fridge, an electric kettle, and stick a futon in the loft so I have a place to get away to when I need a vacation on which I can't afford to spend time or money.


you do realize, don't you annie, that since 9:45 this morning more than two dozen guys have fallen in love with you?

:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh *blush*

I do want to thank everyone for their kind welcomes to this thread. I wish I had come across it sooner, but, well, I've been a little distracted this spring.

I printed out the whole thread (there goes one of those $32 ink cartridges!) and have read it twice -- it's so great to get to know everyone here better. It's probably the closest thing we'll ever have to a BBF convention -- though I still cherish hopes that a few of us can gather at Cooperstown someday.

A few things I forgot in my first post:

I LOVE the Marx Brothers. A Night at the Opera, Duck Soup, Monkey Business, Animal Crackers, Horsefeathers... those guys were geniuses. I also would love to own every silent film Buster Keaton ever made.

People I admire:
-My Mom and Dad, of course.
-Jimmy Carter
-George Aiken
-Robert Stafford
-Jodie Williams
-Dr. Carlos G. Otis, who founded Grace Cottage Hospital, where 3 of my siblings and I were born. He was a good, true country doctor, and a visionary.
-Meyer Schapiro, Professor of Art History at Columbia University, presented with the Keys to several cities, and a dear close family friend. He dandled my mom on his knee, and years later, all of her children. Also his wife, Dr. Lillian Milgrim Schapiro who became a pediatrician in the 1920s, a hard time for women to succeed in the medical field.
-Lance Armstrong
-John Hart, signer of the Declaration of Independence, and an ancestor of mine
-Lorenzo de Medici (Lorenzo the Magnificent)
-William Shakespeare
-My great-great-grandfather Ward Philip Kingsbury, who lied about his age in order to join the army (he was 62, and said he was 42). Joined Co. D, 16th Vt Volunteers, Grand Army of the Republic, and fought at Gettysburg. The 16th Vt was instrumental in halting the right flank of Pickett's Charge -- you can look it up. He was a member of the Music Corps for Co. D, and I still have the fife he played, and his letters home, and his belt buckle. "Fife right through hell, Uncle Ward," his fellow soldiers would say, "and we'll follow you." (Incidentally, his son Martin Kingsbury, who also went to the Civil War (Co E, 5th Vt Volunteers) was a Red Sox fan and was at Fenway when the Sox won it all in 1918.)

Something else I forgot:

This past winter Sean started a baseball blog -- "Around the Horn" -- and before things got frantic this spring, I posted a few entries there, under the heading Baseball Musings (http://www.around-the-horn.com/?cat=1). I hope to be able to contribute more, if I ever get the time to sit down and write.
Tony (West Coast Orange and Black) to Annie:

i am over here on one knee, gettin' ready to ask you a question.

I'll make it easy on you: the only diamond I want is made of dirt and grass, and has a big green wall all around it! :) :D


Tony (West Coast Orange and Black) to Annie:

so... if i build it...

yer such a Good Sport.

(please note the use of caps, annie. the last time i did that 'round here was, um, never.)

07-13-2005, 11:12 AM
I feel the gauntlet has been thrown down by my Red Sox Co-Mod, Annie (VTSoxFan). I shall try to be brief, because while brevity is the soul of wit, "The Simpsons" have also shown that brevity...is wit.

Name: Edward Martin (the givens name of both my grandfathers)
Born: February 19, 1970. Newport, Rhode Island. Naval Hospital.

Education: Too much. After 12 years of Catholic schooling, including East Catholic High School, Manchester, CT (1984-88), I took a 5-year plan through college. I struggled a great deal with self-discipline, but in the end I attended 4 years worth of Ripon College, Ripon, WI (1988-1993), with one year abroad in Bonn, Germany (1992). After yet another year without solid direction, I entered the German M.A. program in the Modern and Classical Languages at UConn. I completed the M.A. program in 5 semesters (it should have taken 4), then took a year off to work and re-evaluate. After 8 months as a temp in the annuities division of CIGNA just as it was being sold to Lincoln Financial (1997-8). I consider this education too because I got to watch the single steepest drop-off in the stock market and saw people's savings frozen in place as the market shut down for a few hours. Sobering. I then took a semester in Potsdam, Germany (1998), where I rekindled my love of the German language and of education. I returned for the Ph.D. program where I resumed both. I passed my general exams in 2000 and have been ABD since. I continue to teach, although I now teach German culture through literature, which also requires me to teach writing. I'm currently putting the final touches on the design of my fall research project for the empirical piece of a generally theoretical dissertation.

I'll spare you all that.

I hated baseball as a kid. Not the Red Sox. Never. But I hated baseball profoundly. Baseball had never generated enough mental stimulation as a kid because I was often plunked down in left field and never caught an outfield fly. I had one moment when I turned a DP playing at 3rd base, but once again I had lingered in the Farm League and never made it to the Littles.

Baseball had been boring because my father's way of watching baseball emulated his own father's. Often we sat around, not saying much, watching the Red Sox. Often, it was suicide to open our mouths, so I had to rely upon the commentators to explain what was going on. But what kind of kid likes that? Soccer became my sport for a number of reasons. First, there was almost no dely in play time, second even a person my size can play.

If I had one word to describe myself, I would likely choose "intelligent." If I had only one to describe myself physically, it would be "short." Like some character from The Tin Drum, I have not grown an inch sinch junior high. Believe it or not, this fact has significant baseball relevance. My parents are not tall people. My father is almost 5'10" and my mother is 5'0". Her mother was even shorter. Unfortunately, when I was very young my doctor expressed concern for my size. I was monitored for a few years but then my doctor referred us to a childrens hospital. There they decided to suggest treatment for my "condition" and my night-school graduate mother left the decision to me. My growth was monitored by X-raying my wrists because, we were told, even though there was no risk, they wanted to make sure they were not over-medicating me. Several years later, when I was serving as a blood donor, I was asked if I had ever taken growth hormone. Of course, with today's agri-business, who hasn't. Because I wasn't sure what I had taken I did some research and discovered that for over 2 years I was being given a daily dosage of an anabolic steroid. The literature on that particular steroid indicates that it is most often used on girls with Turner's Syndrome (extreme shortness--that's a syndrome???) but that it is also used by some athletes because it doesn't carry most of the same side effects of other steroids, especially for post-pubescents. Unfortunately, they were given to me just before the onset of puberty. Since the age of 14 I've stood 5' 1 1/2", despite predictions I would be at least 5' 6".

As you can imagine, I have very strong opinions about steroids in baseball.

I did say I'd be witty, or at least brief, so I'll just say that I've always loved the Red Sox. My mother's father was a Dodger fan who switched to the Red Sox before I was born. Because my grandmother was fully deaf from the age of 3 and he had lost most of his hearing at 5, the only sound I remember from my grandfather's lips were, "Lookie, Lookie, Lookie, here comes Cookie!"

My only regret from last year is that I can no longer offer my students a day off if the Red Sox win the World Series. As you might have guessed, I finally had to pay up. I always told my students to take it as a religious holiday, because we all deserve a day off when Hell freezes over. I'll have to come up with a new rationalization.

07-14-2005, 12:32 PM
Hello everyone,

My name is Scott Moore.I was born and raised in St Louis from 1960 until 1979.I went to college on North Carolina and South Carolina majoring in engineering.I was a grad in 1987 from the Univ of South Carolina.I worked for a German comapny that manufactures and repairs Dairy Machines all over the world.I hold several patents for a rotary linear, automatice and pulsator dairy machines.I retired in 2000.

I now work with several little league groups in the Columbia, SC area and do some umpiring on the side.I am also a part time bartender at a sportsbar in SC.

I did play little league and Babe Ruth League baseball but that was long long ago in a city far far away.

My hobbies consist of drinking beer, brewing beer, poker, collecting sportcards, raising livestock for profit, watching sports in person or on the boobtube.

My favorite baseball player is Bob Gibson.I have been a Cards fan since birth.My father started me in the right direction when taking me to the late 1960's Cards games and letting me see the likes of Brock, Maris, Mays, Aaron, Banks, and tons more.I have seen over 800+ cards games in my life.

My favorite type of music is German Classical.(I spent almost two years in Germany traveling back and forth for work)

I am a fan of a big sausage dog on a wheat bun covered in brown mustard and cole slaw.Love all types of hot food Italian, Mexican, Chinese, German, Dutch, and Korean.

My favorite type of movies are Western, War, Detective, and Sci-Fi/Fantasy.My favorite movie is Raiders of the Lost Ark and my favorite actor is John Wayne.

My favorite author is John D McDonald.

My favorite kind of ice cream is strawberry.

My favorite kind of woman is willing :D

My best friend is named Chris and he is a LA Dodgers fane so we are at each others throats every baseball season.


Women that leave the seat up.

Women that love to spend my money.

Women that dont enjoy sports.

Women that drink all my beer.

Friends that drink the last beer in the fridge.(the last brew is always mine when at my house)

Mothers that will not let their daughters date an older man.

Dads that think you are not good enough for their daughters.

Mothers that come o to their daughters boyfriend.

Drivers that dont know how to use a turn signal.
Scott's Official Opinions:

- Scott

07-14-2005, 06:21 PM
name: #1Rangerfan
age: 14
born: Ft. Worth, TX
live: on a ranch 1 1/2 hours south of Ft. Worth near a little town nobody knows about so I'm not going to name it.
favorite team: Texas Rangers 1996 1998 1999
Favorte players: alltime-Ted Williams, right now- Mark Texiara, Alfonso Soriano, Michael Young, Hank Blalock, Alex Rodriguez, Kenny Rogers, Albert Pujols, Pudge Rodriguez, Rafeal Palmero

My interest in baseball began with my mom's family. My grandparents and uncles plan their whole lives around game times, and won't do anything while a Rangers, Maverick, Cowboy, of Aggie game is on. I got my mom's love of sports with my dad's athletic ability (decent athlete, linebacker, 1st baseman, run the quater in track). I've been following the Rangers ever since I was old enough to remember. My fondest memory when the Rangers won the West in 99, swept the A's last day of season. Got their butt kicked by the Yanks later.

Favorite movies: 61*, the Natural, Sandlott, Pride of the Yankees, Major League, any John Wayne movie.

Favorite actors: John Wayne, James Stewart, Adam Sandler, Tom Hanks

Favorite music: don't listen to music much, always got my radio tunned to ESPN or Ranger game or Sean Hannity.

Favorite TV: Rangers games, Aggies FB games, ESPN, Fox Sports Southwest

relegion: Christian (hard headed Baptist)

political: Consevative Republican

things that need to happen in baseball: AL needs to expand to 16 teams, no interleague play, Yankees and Red Sox need to disban

started playing t-ball at 4 started baseball at 7.

07-19-2005, 06:57 PM
Name: Chris
Nickname: Pingu (I can turn my feet 180 degrees outwards each - I walk like a penguin :))
Age: 18
Born: Bristol, England (hence the name)
Lived in Treforest, Pontypridd, Wales from October 04 to June 05 due to university, back home in Bristol now though

University: UoGlamorgan, Bachelor of Science in Mathematics
Let's see... medical research volunteer, student mentor, university student, bassist in a moderately well known band locally (and I end up with the song writing responsibilities), I run my website, I help a friend with his and I help my mother with her job when it comes to the computer. Nothing there that could actually be construed as a job really, so no, I don't have a job
Work: Student mentor for 14-16 year olds, medical research volunteer

Baseball: Just a fan, no diamonds here
Favorite Artists: (In no particular order) Powerman 5000, Opeth, Symphony X, Iced Earth
Favorite Albums: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, Alive in Athens, The Odyssey, Blackwater Park
Favorite Movies/Documentaries: SLC Punk, Rocky I, II and IV
Favorite Teams: Gloucestershire CCC
Favorite Baseball Players: Ichiro, Greg Maddux
Favorite TV: MLB on five, Dirty Sanchez
Favorite Games: MVP 05, Tekken 5, Streetfighter 2 (I love Ryu! :D), PES 4
Heroes in Life:

- Peter Schmeichel, Danish goalkeeper a few years ago - I idolized him when I used to play football regularly. I tried copying him in every single way, even his ritual of kicking the posts before matches. First poster I had on my wall.

- Steve Harris, bassist for Iron Maiden - if I could be half the bassist he is, I could die a very happy man. EVerything he does is just, well, magic to me and my ears. All I need is the blistering finger picking speed and absolute fretboard command and the strength to match, and I'm done. Except for the song writing ability. And the awesome hair. And the rest of the band. And the amazing basses. Damn.

- My Nan - she's really the only person in my family that keeps me from thinking I'm adopted. The nicest person I've ever had in my life and always, always bends over backwards to help people without second thought of how it screws her day up. That, and how many 75 year old grandmothers do you know that have learnt how to email and send pictures to relatives AND still have time to do the gardening? Nan, you rock :clapping.


Just got round to adding my life to that post - what a great idea! But now, some anger needs venting...

1/ Damn people who wear Yankees logos on everything here in the UK and have clearly never seen a baseball game in their life.

2/ People who force religion on me - the guy who stands in the town centre handing out leaflets and shouting over his amplifier about the wonders of God, the Jehovah's Witnesses who knock on my door. I've no problem with religion or people who are religious, I just don't like it rammed down my throat.

3/ The fact games in the US and Japan get released before they do here, if they get released at all - MVP Baseball, Super Mario Baseball, Katamari Damacy, loads of games! Grrrr!

4/ Baseball season ends too early.

5/ Baseball season starts too late.

6/ The fact Australia always beats us at cricket.

7/ The fact Australia always beats us at rugby.

8/ Having to get myself out of bed - in an ideal world I'd only get up for food and calls of nature.

9/ Pop music.

10/ Rap music.

Just thought of something I'd post - I have this ongoing theory with my mates (this has lasted since about 2001) that there is not a single problem on this earth that cannot be solved by firing someone or something out of a cannon. Think about it.
RealNod to Bristol Boy:
Dirty Sanchez? If I understand you right, I'm not touching that one.

I love Tekken, though I've not played Tekken 5, but have played the previous Tekkens. Baek's my character of choice; I can rock Baek like nobody's business. Bruce is another character I can do serious damage with, though my repertoire is more limited with Bruce. PJack, Gun Jack, Whatever Jack, is the character I can absolutely crush certain players with.

Street Fighter:
Love Street Fighter. I prefer Ken to Ryu; same moves, but Ken's are faster, although they're less powerful. The speed makes up for it for me. In SF2, Ryu's hurricane kick and uppercut seem inferior to me. My second favorite character is Guile. Jump that Sonic Boom and get treated to a Flash Kick.

For the bass, well, I am not a bass player, but a guitar player. I got really fast once, as fast as you can probably get. Try really fat picks. Build to speed, don't just try and pick speedy right off. Always stay loose. I can't imagine how much harder it is to deal with the bigger frets and larger space between them, and I don't want to.
Bristol Boy back to RealNod:
Dirty Sanchez makes Jackass look like the Royal Shakespeare Company.

I'm actually entering a national Tekken 5 tournament in August - Jin/Devil Jin, Heihachi, Kazuya, Bryan, Nina, Asuka, Jun, Jack, Kuma, I can play a few characters well .

Ken isn't all that faster, and the Shoryuken is just awful - you miss with that and you're screwed. Ryu's Hadouken is the reason he's better than Ken - faster, stronger, and the Shin Hadouken is awesome. Never liked charge characters such as Guile, except for Vega (or Balrog, depending on the region you got your game from). I could sit here and talk about Streetfighter all day, it's my favourite game and always will be. I have Streetfighter shirts, a Ryu PS2 controller, a few copies of the manga (which are hard to obtain here), the animated movie on DVD, all sorts.

07-19-2005, 08:34 PM
Bill, Interesting to exchange ideas with a fellow Jasper ( Manhattan College ) . Here is some abbreviated background. Age: 61, Born Staten Island N.Y. Father: Captain of Tank Destroyers KIA with Patton's 3rd Army one month after I was born. MA Georgetown, MBA Columbia. Currently retired and working on my golf game. Played baseball through college and into the mid-minors. As a teenager played twice at Cooperstown as part of two NYS Championship teams. Also played in the famed Journal American All-Star game at Yankee Stadium when that newspaper sponsored an annual All-Star game between the US All-Stars and the New York All-Stars. One of my closest friends made it to the big leagues from '67-72. Another played with the early Met teams as a pitcher. Perhaps my closest friend made it to AAA ( although I always thought that he was the best athlete of the three ). He was the International League All-Star 2nd and 3rd baseman several years running, playing on Mets AAA farm team with Harrelson and Seaver. Unfortunately, he had an All-Star Second Baseman in Ron Hunt blocking his way to the Majors. Realizing that my baseball potential was quite limited I turned to golf with some degree of success. Traveled extensively with another friend who plays on the Senior ( Champions Tour ). I do not consider myself a sports nut ( love college basketball but will almost never watch the Pro's ). Regarding baseball and being a product of New York baseball of the 50's and 60's I enjoyed the players of that era. Mantle was my guy but I admired the way Snider played the game. Mays just never did anything for me although his ability and skills are unquestioned. Actually met both Mantle and Mays at a party on Staten Island. Also met Bobby Thompson ( "shot heard round the world" ) and he had a pair of the biggest hands I ever saw. Mantle and Mays, by the way , were at most 5'10" or 5'11" not the 6' as sometimes listed. As a baseball nut back then I saved all the sports magazines including Sport and Baseball Digest. Wary of the overuse of statistics I was always interested in what fellow ballplayers, scouts, and other baseball people thought of players like Mantle and Mays. While not infallible I tend to value their input as much as any statistic.Later, Bob Gibson was one of my favorites ( met him also ). Not only a great pitcher but an outstanding athlete (basketball) and carried himself with a lot of class. Other favorite, though less talanted players, included Carl Furillo, Andy Cary, Jimmy Piersall and Larry Doby ( boy did he have a tough park to play in ). All-time favorites include Jimmy Foxx, and Lou Gerhig. The more I read about DiMaggio the less I like him. Great player, lousy human being.Regarding the Mantle/Mays debate I settled that a long time ago in my mind. For the first 10 or so years Mantle was slightly ahead. Marty Marion a National Leaguer said in 1959 that Mantle was the best player in both leagues. However, around 1962 Mays became the obvious better player as Mantle's injuries caught up to him. Mantle, in fact , made a joke of it. In the World Series against the Giants both were having a terrible series. A fan yelled to Mickey "Hey Mantle. We all came here to see who was better. Now we want to know who is worse!". LOL

07-22-2005, 03:52 PM
can I still sign? Here it goes...........

NAME: Mario Padilla
Nationality: Dominican
Age: 16
Occupation: going on to junior year of HS
Hobby: I play baseball in HS and outside

I've been raised in the Bronx, NY and im a avid Yankee Fan. Started watching in the year 2000. My Favorite players are Pujols and A-rod. My favorite Historical players are Lou Gehrig and Jimmie Foxx. In my freshmen year of HS I hit a disappointing .150 in 25Ab and struck out 14 times! I came back my sophmore year I hit .500 in 18Ab and struck out only 3 times. I led the team in OBP with .632. This summer I've practicing switch-hitting. So far im a MUCH better RH hitter. I made no errors in the outfield in sophmore year and probably the best Defensive outfielder in my neighborhood. I have good speed and show signs of power (LH i hit a ball out of the park went about 250-320ft and RH I hit one 300-350ft) thats great considering i weigh about 120lbs and am 5'7.
Mario's Official Opinions:

07-25-2005, 01:14 PM
Reckon I'm the token farmboy. Raised on a dairyfarm in the land of Burliegh Grimes and Johnny Blood. My mom taught seven grades in one room. By the time I started it had improved to just six grades in two rooms. No war stories for my dad. He was deferred. His mom died when he was 19 and that meant he became in charge of the farm and also in charge of his 10 and 5 year old sisters. Grandpa's work put him on the road for long stretches. Everyday my dad would hop on his bike(ever ride one with balloon tires) up and down the gravel hills for two miles to the farm. milk the cows and hitch up the horses and work. Then on the bike back home to check on his little sisters and then back to the farm till dark and then back home again.
In school the sixth graders played a little softball. We younger kids played horses. That's where you wrap a piece of twine around the girls waist and run behind her pretending she's your horse. Or maybe slave girl.That's where the girls would go in the ditch and pull grass and carry it in bundles to us guys where we built our grass forts.(remember this would be the early to mid 60's)
In fifth grade all the country schools were shut down and the kids shipped to town. From a record size class of 17, I now had over 100 classmates. In town they all played ball. I caught pop ups with my cap as I had no glove. Finally my grandma gave me my uncle's. I workd up the nerve to bring it to school once. I'm sure I burned it... Foolish, it had to be World War one vintage.
My passion kicked in during sixth grade when (can't remember the details)I swapped some Beatles and Dark Shadow cards with a classmate for baseball cards. Still gottem too.
I recall the Twins games on the old staticy radio in the barn. After chores I'd pour a glass of Kool Aid and add some of my dad's alka seltzer tablets to make it more like pop. We only got pop if it was a dime or less but I think poor old dad wound up paying more in Alka Seltzer. Followed the Twins till 71. Then the Brewers got a radio affiliate up in our neck of the state and I became a Brewer fan.
I recall one time coming home from chuch on a drizzlie day and heading to the field in front of the barn to hit some fly balls. My dad came out of the barn and asked for the bat and hit me a few. Only time he played ball. City folks are saying "How sad"> I'll bet there's some farm kids saying "How lucky"
Baseball game consisted of usually two on two or maybe three. Games were played in the pasture with a taped up ball and either a rock or tree as a base. Of course the ball would ultimately land in a cow pie. Just rub it in the grass and continue.
No high school sports for me. Too busy on the farm . Besides I was a rotten ballplayer..

Favorite cds: I've never purchased one.
Favorite music: CCR,BTO, The Who,Tommy Overstreet, Gene Watson(yeah,a real mixture)
Favorite movies: Meet John Doe, anything Laurel and Hardy and the Scarlet Pimpernel
Favorite actor: Leslie Howard and Randolph Scott
Favorite actress: Eva Gabor(yup I love and can associate with Green Acres and I love Eva too,especially since I'm about the age she was during the show.)
Favorite book: Andersonville,Ball Four and almost any biography or old newspaper.
Best moment: Becoming a dad at 37. Two tubulars, three miscarriages and a stillborn sprinkled in made the event all the more appreciated.
I ain't got no pet peeves unless it's when the liquor store clerk calls me by my first name. I don't think I go in there that often.
I hope everyone appreciates what a great site this is. The ability to carry on a decent discussion. I'm not much on screaming and name calling. If I wanted that I'd go back on the church council I reckon.
I married a Vikequeen and she dragged me over to the wrong side of the river. Sundays she's in the house watching the Vikes and I sit in my shed watching the Packers. I like football on tv,but I love baseball on the radio.Am I the only one who prefers baseball on the radio?
Now living on 5 acres surrounded by thousands of acres of corn and soybeans. Though I'm not a farmer, the country life is the life for me. Two good size gardens, no need to go indoors if nature calls and a neat tree house our daughter has outgrown. Mom and dad use it some nights now... if you know what I mean...
I haven't really had a favorite player though I do like that thin black kid at second for Milwaukee. The guy with the quick wrists, thunder in his bat and the sleepy time eyelids. There's talk he may end up in the outfield. Too early for deja vu Milwaukee? It happened a little over 50 years ago. Compare the pics of Hank and Rickey. I've also got a thing for this lefty Chris Capuano. Smart, knows how to pitch, he can swing a bat and can pick runners off like Jed Clampett can shoot critters. Keep an eye on him.
There, is that long enough Bill? Keep the good work Gentleman.
Bill, You are not only well read and accurate on Ruth and Cobb,but also music as well. I'm a book worm with a pretty good memory along with an obsession with history.
I know I said I'd leave this thread, but like an alcoholic standing outside the tavern you reeled me back in. Why music ain't what it used to be?
In my opinion every big song in any format has to do one of two things. Make you wet or make you sweat. Sweat as in toe tapping,dancing, air guitar etc. Wet as in a tear or in a sensual way.Let's just throw out some songs from all kinds of genres.

Songs from a waaaaay back. Dixie or Johnny Comes Marching Home. Two famous songs that make most folks want to move or sweat.

Country: Conway Twitty's I've already loved you in my mind. Carnal Conway conjures up conjugal confontations. Wet.

Church Hymns. Joy to the World.. Sweat and a desire to to lift up and move or Little Town of Bethlehm. Wet. A tear is evoked from a soft and tender story. I can name only one hymn that's been put in place the last ten years or so that has almost become a standard. Borning Cry... It's a song that puts a tear in my eye.

Rock: How about Slow Ride.... Anyone else enjoy that song as a hit and wonder what a slow ride must be like. Today we middle agers maybe don't think about a slow ride, but rather how we felt back then with the AM radio cranked up and our innocent minds wondering "What is it like?

Oldtime: Beer Barrel Polka. That makes many want to tap their toes or how about the Anniversary Waltz or Rangers Waltz. That slow beat that perhaps causes a tear and takes you back to Mom and Dad's time.

Or think of any Elvis song.. They all apply to the sweat or wet line of thinking.

What is there today to conjure up a feeling to make one sweat or get wet?

A slow ride?? A young person is a mouseclick away from all the slow rides he or she wants to gawk at. How about a song like Steppenwolf's The Pusher... In the 60's and 70's it was exciting and daring to think of having a toke. The stories I hear from school today indicate it's more than just a toke to get your kicks.
Sorry about this wet or sweat thing, but it's the only way I could explain my thoughts.

We're all either getting old or in the case of many young folks, they are becoming desensitized. It takes a song about the thrill of killing a cop or some far out disgusting thing to get that feeling of getting wet or needing to sweat.

My other reason would be Ronald Reagan. No, I'm not getting into politics. His hand in deregulation allowed communications companies to own tons of radio and tv outlets. If they don't hear it or see it, they won't buy it... Owning large blocks of media outlets means going public much the way of other enterprises. You have fewer people dictating to more people what to say and play. Be safe and let's make a profit. Can you picture the CEO of Wal Mart telling the stockholders " You've lost twenty cents a share this quarter. Most of this is due to our installing car washes with dvd players. We weren't too sure if it would fly but I really like to rock out when I wash my car" Good bye CEO. Screw you, we want profits.. Stick with something sure.

If you ever have the chance to get out in the country and listen to some tiny market stations that aren't part of a public block, you'll hear quite a few songs you don't hear on larger market stations. There's one about a half mile from me that's part of a vey small group. I hear quite a few songs that I can't find anywhere else on the radio dial.Because Big Brother isn't telling them what to play... I suppose the fact there no longer is the chance to have a B side hit of a record might factor a bit as well.

Another make'em wet or make'em sweat.... Name as many artists that you can that might be described as homely. I haven't a clue as to rap or rock,but I am up on country. The only ones I can think of are some artists from the past like Pete Townsend, Mama Cass,Ring Starr,Hank and Hank Williams Jr. So many of the artists are sooooo cute... Make'em wet or make'em sweat with those pearly whites and tight hindends... The music comes second...

Enough for now... just some simple thoughts from a simple mind...

I sure enjoy all the conversations you guys have...Thanks for letting me horn in and blab a bit..

Yankee Legend
07-25-2005, 02:30 PM
My name is elliot

Age: 16 (I may be young but I know alot about the game)

Besides the fact that im a teenager I may be a bit different than all of you. This is because on May 2, 1989, I was born in Moscow, Russia. I immigrated to the US on christmas day in 1990. I live in Brooklyn, NY from Dec. 1990-Feb. 1993. I moved to Nassua, NY and lived there from Feb 1993-Oct 1993. I then moved back to Brooklyn and lived there till Oct 1995. Then I moved to nearby Staten Island, NY where I live now.

My team is the New York Yankees. My favorite current players are Derek Jeter, Tino Martinez, Alex Rodriguez, Mike Mussina, Mariano Rivera, Jason Giambi, Hideki Matsui, Bernie Williams, Jorge Posada, Andy Pettite, Roger Clemens, Alfoso Soriano, Ichiro, and Nomar Garciparra.

My favorite Old-timers are Ty Cobb, The Babe, Joltin Joe, The Scooter, Yogi Berra, Lou Gerhig, Walter Johnson, Whtiey Ford, Paul O'Neil, Wade Boggs, and Mickey Mantle

Players I dont like are Pedro Martinez, Eric Gagne, Trot Nixon, Kevin Millar, Johnny Damon, Mike Piazza, Barry Bonds, John Smoltz, and John Rocker.

Other than baseball my favorite athletes are Patrick Ewing, Scott Stevens, Martin Broduer, Patrick Elias, Latrell Sprewell, Allan Houston, Steve Yzerman, Sergei Federov, Chad Pennington, and Jeremy Shockey.

Favorite Books:
"Native Son" by Richard Wright
"Fast Food Nation" by Eric Shlosser
"The Godfather" by Mario Puzo
"Red Rabbit" by Tom Clancy
"The Hunt for Red October" by Tom Clancy
"Rainbow Six" by Tom Clancy

Favortie Bands:
Pink Floyd
Red Hot Chili Peppers

How I got into baseball:
The first time I saw the game was when my dad played it in '94. Some of my dad's co-workers started to play in a small league for fun and invited him to join. He wore the #10 and was a catcher. Of coarse when I saw him play I had no idea what this game was. Then in 1996 I watched my first game. It was the World Series, Yankees vs. Braves. I couldn't understand the game but I thought it was incredible! The excitement, the thrill. I just kept watching it and watching it. I actually learned how to play in the summer of '97. I was in summer camp and decided to play the game with some of the other kids. They taught me it. I picked up the game better than other kids from Eastern European immigrants. It was the perfect game for me. Baseball has been my passion since then.
I'll update mine with William's chart.

Elliot, 5'8; 150 lbs.
Born: May 2, 1989, Moscow, Russia.
1989-1991: Lived in Moscow, Russia
1991-1993: Lived in Brooklyn, NY
1993: Lived in Long Island, NY
1993-1995: Lived in Bensonhurst (Brooklyn), NY
1995-now: Live in Staten Island, NY (go SI Yanks!)

I Presently reside: Staten Island, NY
Education: Brooklyn Tech H.S. College soon (Don't know which one yet).
Nationality: Russian/Jewish
Work History: Real Estate intern, some entrepenuering here and there.
Favorite ballplayers: Most of the Yankees. Jeter would probably be my favorite.
Favorite movies: Too many
Favorite Rock Acts: Tool, Nirvana, Metallica, Disturbed, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, AC/DC
Favorite Rock CD's:
Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: AC/DC, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Beatles, Nirvana
Music I Don't Care For: Rap, Hip-Hop, Pop-Punk types (i.e. Linkin Park, Good Charlotte, Blink 182, etc.).
Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Baseball: Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Sandy Koufax, Derek Jeter, Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson, Roger Clemens, A-Rod, and many more. Non-Baseball: Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, Clyde Frazier, Willis Reed, Magic Johnson, Patrick Ewing, Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Mario Lemeuix, Patrick Roy, Martin Broduer, Joe Montana, Emmit Smith, Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Joe Lewis, Muhammed Ali, Joe Frazier, Mike Tyson and Evander Holifield.
Favorite Basketball Players: Patrick Ewing
Favorite Football Runners: Tiki Barber, Curtis Martin, Emmit Smith and Barry Sanders
Favorite Movie Directors: Speilberg, Tarrantino, Coppola, Cameron
Favorite Actors: Will Smith, Eddy Murphy, Jim Carey, Jet Li, Harrison Ford
Favorite Books: Native Son, Godfather, Earth, American Theocracy
Favorite Sports Books: Haven't read any good ones. When I was little I read a good book called, ironically enough, Baseball Fever
Favorite Rock Geniuses: Tool
My Most Admired Americans: Lincoln, Reagan, Bill Gates, Robert E. Lee
Hobbies: BBF, doing business, hanging out with people, reading
Favorite Foods: Anything without Mayo
Favorite Rock Tunes: Too Many
Favorite TV Shows: Colbert Report, Mind of Mencia, South Park
Favorite Comedy Stuff: See above, Eddy Murphy, George Carlin
Least Favorite People: The Religious Right
Favorite TV Characters: Cartman
My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: Dont know what you mean by classic but 61*, Major League series, the one with Rogers Hornsby, A League of their Own
Photos of me.

Windy City Fan
07-26-2005, 12:58 PM
Craig Ashley
Born July 27, 1977

As to baseball, I come from a long line of dedicated White Sox fans. Both my father and grandfather were/are fans. They managed to infect me with their disease as a young child, though I wasn't much of a fan. Harold Baines was my favorite player as a child, and I didn't know much beyond that.

Oddly enough baseball wasn't a big deal to me as a youngster. I wasn't very good at it as a kid and it was a source of conflict between me and my dad. I did play little league (outfield of course), but was never very good. When I was in seventh grade, I got interested in baseball cards. My original intention was to make money through collecting, but I quickly discovered a passion for the game. The same year, the White Sox traded Harold Baines to the Rangers, and in my anger I vowed to become a Cubs fan. They were doing well that year (1989). My dad and I even made a bet on which team would win the pennant first, Sox or Cubs. Sixteen years later, no one has collected.

So my first real baseball memories are of watching the Cubs, laughing at Harry Carray's antics, and learning the game from Steve Stone. I got out of baseball card collecting while I was in high school - the prices for cards rose faster than my income. As I became a teen, and turned into an average athlete. The kids in my neighborhood got together and actually built a baseball field on an empty lot using "borrowed" lumber from construction sites of new homes in the subdivision.

Of my two brothers, one joined me in my Cubs conversion, and the other remained loyal to the White Sox. So now when we all get together, its a good bet there will be a spirited debate/trash talking session about the city's baseball teams.

I married a great woman 6 years ago, and luckily her and her family are all Cubs fans. I still play in a softball league, alternating mostly between pitcher and second base.

Some random crap about me:

I worked as a fence installer for a few years. A friend and I even tried to go into business for ourselves, but ultimately couldn't make a go of it. During our brief partnership, I handled most of the sales and took a liking to it. Flapping my gums was a lot easier than digging holes. So I tried my hand at sales.

I sold home improvements, advertising, magazine subscriptions, and even perfume, but I grew discontent with the field. The hours were evenings and weekends, which greatly reduced my time spent with my wife, family, and any personal pursuits. Finally I decided that no career was worth my personal life, and quite to go back to college.

I went as a kid out of high school, but didn't take it seriously and basically wasted time for a year and a half. Since I've gone back, my GPA is around 3.5 and I'm about half way to my degree, a double major in Education and History.

Favorite Baseball players of all time: Nolan Ryan, Mark Grace, Greg Maddux, Ty Cobb, Ted Williams, Goose Gossage, Harold Baines, Honus Wagner, Cy Young, Billy Martin

Favorite Bands: Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Black Sabbath, Van Halen, Jimmy Hendrix, The Beatles, Johnny Cash, Ozzy Osbourne, Eric Clapton, Guns and Roses

Favorite Led Zeppelin Songs: Dazed and Confused, When the Levee Breaks, Gallows Pole, In My Time of Dying, Heartbreaker, Whole Lotta Love, Stairway to Heaven

Favorite songs by bands not named Led Zeppelin: Fade to Black, No Leaf Clover, Master of Puppets (Metallica), Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club, Revolution, Let it Be, Hey Jude (The Beatles), Hurt, When the Man Comes Around, Rusty Cage (Johnny Cash), The Man Who Sold the World, Heart Shaped Box (Nirvana), Paranoid, War Pigs, Iron Man (Black Sabbath) Smoke on the Water (Deep Purple), The House of the Rising Son (The Animals), Sunday Bloody Sunday (U2), When Love Comes to Town (U2 and BB King), Don't You Cry, Dead Horse, Civil War (Guns and Roses)

Favorite Movies: Godfather I and II, The Usual Suspects, The Enemy Below, Tombstone, Patton, White Heat, Goodfellas, Ed Wood, The Shootist, Rio Bravo, The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, The original Star Wars Trilogy, Field of Dreams, American History X, The Matrix (first one only), Gettysburg, Dracula (Bela Legosi version), Angels with Dirty Faces, Casablanca, Braveheart

Favorite Actors: Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino, Robert Duvall, John Wayne, Sam Elliot, Ed Norton, Robert Mitchum, James Cagney, Kevin Spacey, Gene Hackman

Other Hobbies/Interests: Writing, history, chess, fantasy football, cooking, drama
Hendrix is on my list. Cream I considered covered by my mention of Clapton. Iron Butterfly is a notch or two below the others in my book. I never really liked the Sex Pistols. I've tried, I really have. Kiss I do enjoy a lot. Their music is simple but it still rocks and I've jammed to many a great Kiss song. But they're just not on my list of absolute favorites.

Other bands that I enjoy but didn't make the above list: The Doors, Kiss, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Megadeth, Godsmack, Disturbed, anything associated with Chris Cornell, AC/DC, Pantera, Queensryche, U2, REM, The Rolling Stones, Kid Rock, Eminem, Motley Crew, Areosmith (pre ballad obsessed, pop sellout days), The Smashing Pumpkins, Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Pink Floyd, and I'm sure there are others that are slipping my mind at this late hour.

Hard Rock/Heavy Metal is easily my favorite genre of music. Though I do look back at early nineties pop/hip hop with a nostalgic grin (C & C Music Factory, Marky Mark, Sir Mix-a-lot, etc.). I used to detest country, but I've discovered an appreciation for Johnny Cash and a few other songs (Devil Went Down to Georgia, The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia, Theme to the Dukes of Hazzard, and Thunder Rolls by Garth Brooks are all more than acceptable country music). However, I'm still not a country fan, and most of it doesn't do a thing for me, especially the pop/country hybrid crap like Shania Twain. I do enjoy the blues, but haven't pursued it as deeply as I'd like. Led Zep's blues influence in their early songs got me interested. I do appreciated Robert Johnson's musical genius. In fact, if anyone could recommend a few other blues musicians or songs to look up, I'd appreciate it.

Rap I generally hate, but I like Kid Rock for his amusing persona and rock edge. Eminem is another rapper I do like. While some of his songs are quite offensive/repelling, there is a clear sense that he is simply messing with the people trying to muzzle him and pushing their buttons, only they don't pick up on it. He also has an interesting take on society that comes out in his songs, a lot of it is satire that people just don't get. The other thing I recognize is he strings his lyrics together like no one else does. There is just such a unique and amazing feel to the way his words flow. I don't know enough about music to explain it any better, but its talent.

On Bob Dylan, he's a great song writer and lyricist, no doubt. I've heard his songs performed by other artists (All Along the Watchtower, Knocking on Heaven's Door, and a few others that I can't think of right now) and loved them, but musically his voice is just awful to me. I can't listen to incomprehensible nasal whine.
Grand Funk Railroad, Moody Blues, Allman Bros, Genesis, Queen and The Animals are all familiar to me, and I enjoy their music. And I do love classic Jethro Tull!

The Kinks are a name I know, but I'm not familiar with their music. Hank Williams Sr. is in the same boat, I'll give him a listen. Any songs in particular you could recommend?

New Wave - Can't say I've heard enough to really pass judgment. I've heard a lot of different musical styles given this label, so I'm not even entirely sure what you mean.
Gospel - While I'm not an avid fan, I do appreciate it.
Punk - I'm not terribly up on my punk either, but what I've heard is generally pretty good. But what I've heard is usually considered mainstream punk, the more hardcore stuff doesn't do it for me.
Jazz - My brother tried to turn me on to jazz, but it didn't take.
Latin - Not really my thing
Classic Rock - Right up my alley.
Light Rock - A lot of light rock or pop rock is too manufactured for my tastes, but some of it is quite good.
R&B (Soul Music) - Depends on the artists and song, but I do like some of it. Not an avid fan though. The older Motown stuff rates higher than most of the modern R&B for me.
Easy Listening - Zzzzzzz. Sorry I dozed off there, it happens when I think about easy listening
New Age - Like New Wave, I've heard a lot of stuff called this genre that doesn't seem to fit together. Generally what I've heard hasn't been my style.
Reggae - I like what little crossover I've heard from Reggae to rock (Dyer Maker by Led Zep and Clapton's cover of I Shot the Sheriff come to mind, along with Dispatch's Open up). But I think its the kind of music I'd prefer in small doses.
Broadway - First off, I find musicals to be ridiculous and silly for the most part. However, I will say the songs are generally catchy, even if they can be a bit annoying. However, some are enjoyable.
Big Bands - If you mean swing music here, then yes I enjoy that a lot. My mom and I signed up for swing lessons, and we were going to bust a move for the mother/son dance at my wedding. Unfortunately, my work schedule caused me to miss all but one of the lessons. The instructor said we "danced too big".
Folk - Some of it is a little grating to me, but on the flip side some of it is very good. Its hit or miss,
Western - I couldn't tell you the difference between Western and Country.
Popular (Sinatra, Bennett, Streisand) - I like a handful on Sinatra songs, but the other two make me look for the nearest rope to hang myself with.
Bill, I'll have to check out "The Soft Parade" before I can respond. I'm not a huge Doors fan, but I do like them. I'll get back to you on this one.

As to your other question, there is hard rock being made today. I personally listen to Godsmack, Disturbed, and Tool (though Tool has been around a bit longer than the other two). There are other bands, but these names are the ones that pop into mind. Of the three, only Tool has the feel of a band that will be revered years later.

The decline of Hard Rock mystifies me. Back in my high school days (God I sound old, and today is my birthday) there was a cornucopia of hard rock, under the name of alternative. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, and others led this revival from the poppy hair bands of the eighties. I'll throw in Guns and Roses and Metallica too, they weren't considered "alternative", but they were major musical forces in the early nineties. Yet, only a few years after my high school graduation, the musical winds changed direction again. Softer acts, with folk, ballad, or pop influences became the big thing. The big bands of the Alternative movement all imploded. Cobain died. STP and Alice in Chains broke up, in large part due to certain members inability to handle their addictions. Soundgarden split up too. Pearl Jam went out of their way to sabotage their mainstream careers. Guns and Roses broke up over Axel Rose's massive ego.

A lot of newer hard rock acts have some rap roots - Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, etc. This crossover stuff isn't bad to me, but none of it has the feel of something truly great or influential.

As to most important era, I'd say there are two. The early nineties alternative revolution and the late 60's/early70's. The Doors, Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Cream, Iron Butterfly, Kiss, AC/DC were all making music during this time.

Personally, I think its the music industry itself that is making great metal/hard rock virtually extinct. Alternative was a people's revolution in music. The studios were still pushing Winger and Warrant when all of a sudden this new edgy music blazed onto the scene. (Not saying it came out of nowhere, but it finally broke through). The studios got a hold of the alternative craze and began marketing it, and also watering it down. What we saw was the putrid pap that makes up most of the late nineties. The new metal, while I like it and can bang my head to it, somehow feels prepackaged to me. Its almost like the studio execs realize metal fans won't go away, so they throw a bone to the demographic while they create the next Britney Spears, Spice Girls, or Backstreet Boys in their laboratories .... er studios.

I know some of this sounds bitter/conspiracy theorist, but metal/hard rock is almost by definition not mainstream music. Its edgy, confrontational, and often deals with topics that most people would prefer not to discuss.
Interesting theory, Bill, but I'm not sure I buy it. How do you account for the second wave of exciting, revolutionary bands of the early 90's? DJ's had long ago taken over the dance club scene.

Plus, I can recall a few specials I watched on Metallica, G&R, and Motley Crue. They all talked about playing in clubs in their early days. Metallica recruited two of their founding members because they heard them at a club (Kirk Hammett and Cliff Burton). I know here in Chicago there are plenty of places you can hear bands in a club like setting or smaller, more intimate theaters. It tends to be a mix of up and comers and washed up acts.
Nod: Of the bands you named, only Tool and Audioslave seem likely to become great bands on the level of a Zeppelin or a Nirvana in my eyes. I like Korn and Staind, but they have a prepackaged feel to them to me. In baseball terms, Zeppelin and Nirvana are Cobb and Mays - all time greats, Tool and Audioslave are Rodriguez and Puljos - young guys with a chance to remembered among the greatest, and Staind and Korn are Alou or Tim Salmon, nice guys to have around, but definitely not legendary.

Deftones never did much for me, and I'm not familiar with Slipknot enough to pass judgment on them one way or another. I'm curious what your thoughts are on a few other current hard rock acts, namely Disturbed and Godsmack, both whom I enjoy, but somehow lack a sense of being great.

It could be that in my increasing old age, I'm entering the dreaded "nothing could be as good as the music I grew up with" stage of life.
Very true, Bill. I've heard things called hard rock or even heavy metal and I've thought, that's not very hard and it certainly isn't metal. For example, I've often heard Led Zep called a metal band, but when I grew up metal was Ozzy, Metallica, etc. Zep doesn't sound quite that heavy by comparison. I always classified them as hard rock (also classic rock, since I consider classic rock to be anything still listenable ten years after it was released).

I'd never consider The Beatles to be a hard rock act. Cream, I can see it a little, but they still sound/feel classic to me. Smoke on the Water is still hard enough to be hard rock in my book. And Rod Stewart and hard rock together, that makes me chuckle - which just goes to show how the meaning of these terms has shifted over the years.
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07-31-2005, 09:34 AM
Bill suggested I look this one up, so I'll post some details about me here. First of all, you can look up this page, which not only details what I have written on Japanese baseball, but also has some info on me in that context I won't repeat here. http://baseballguru.com/jalbright/

I'm a lifelong sports fan and held a season ticket to my beloved Eagles football team from the horrid 1968 (2-12 or something like it, but half a game too good to get to draft OJ Simpson) season through the years at the Vet. Went down with my dad, missing only 10 games in all that time. Three were due to law school finals, two to family weddings, one for going to Oklahoma to pick up the baby boy we were adopting, one early Monday night game my dad wouldn't let me go to because I was too young (the one Howard Cosell left at half because he got sick after imbibing too much to stay warm), and a couple due to ice storms. When they went to the new stadium, we were faced with having to pony up $1700 for the right to buy tickets--and I didn't have that little boy yet. My dad is approaching retirement and couldn't see doing that, and I wasn't up for buying two seats for the possibility I'd have a kid who'd like to use them some day.

We followed all the other Philly teams as well, but in truth Bill James is my biggest connection to baseball. He came on the scene just as the Phils started to sink into mediocrity and worse. What I learned from James about the game and sports in general is very much a part of my approach to baseball in particular and sports in general.

I graduated law school and practiced as a litigator for over 15 years, but while the work was interesting, I was very much put off by the idea in the profession that one had to work at least 60 hours a week to have a chance to get ahead (and one's chances rise if one works even more). I tried to start up my own practice to do things my way, but couldn't get enough paying clients to make it work.

I found out about my son the day he was born, and two days later his birthmother handed him to my wife in Tulsa, OK. Spent almost two weeks in a residence hotel in Tulsa for the paperwork to allow us to take him home to PA to go through. He's almost 4 now, and he's the light of my life, though like any kid, he drives me nuts at times. I wanted to be there as he grows, instead of toiling in an office, so I've elected to go back to school to get a teaching certificate in social studies/history, a topic which has long been a favorite of mine.

I love good movies, whether they be comedies or dramas, but I haven't seen one that isn't kid oriented outside my house since around the time of Saving Private Ryan. Musically, I'm into the classic rock of the sixties and seventies and jazz, especially swing.
Thanks--if you know much about the process of adopting an infant in the states, you've got to want to be a parent--and have the means to do it. It's expensive, time-consuming and involves more paperwork than even I as a former lawyer care to remember. I'd do it all again, without a doubt--but if I was going to put myself through all that just to become a parent, it made no sense whatsoever to me to turn around and not be around to be a dad. Furthermore, this kid was available precisely because his birthfather was (by choice) not going to be around to fill the role. I love my wife, and she's a good mother, but if I wasn't going to do much more than the birthfather except financially, how much better off would he really be away from his birthmother? After all, she wanted this child to have a father. I'd rather be a good father and a good person than a good lawyer. Maybe some folks can manage all three, and more power to them. I didn't feel I could--and that made it an easy choice. And when I hear a shout of "Daddy" when I see him at home and he runs up to me with that huge smile just to give me a hug, I know I did the right thing.
I'm already being amply rewarded, though of course I hope it continues. Certainly, though, it's hard to get much out of a relationship unless you continue to put some effort into it. I'll try to remember to keep up my end of the bargain. What he does is ultimately up to him, though we have every intention of teaching him well. Like any parent, I'll take my chances on that one. Take care.
My kid:

He's four--and already almost as stubborn as me (emphasis on almost). He's 75th percentile height and weight and always has been. Our joke is that we're raising a defensive tackle. He does whatever he's going to do all out. It sure keeps us busy. Like all kids, he drives us nuts on a regular basis. It's easy to forget that, though, when you see his ear to ear smile. And when he comes home with an excited "Daddy!" and a big hug--well, you've gotta love him. And I do, with everything I've got.

my wife:

Met her when we were both in our thirties, so both of us had well-developed habits that still sometimes get in the way after 11 1/2 years together. She's a hard worker, a good mother, a perfectionist (but usually only she's got to be perfect--but she's as human as the rest of us, so she beats herself up over it a lot), and too darn nice for her own good. I like to be nice to people, but not let them walk all over me. I've tried to get her to follow suit, with some success, but old habits die hard. She's a great cook, always experimenting with new recipes. She's an OR nurse, and rose to Lt. Col in the Army's nursing corps (mostly in the Reserves) before she retired from the service.

my dad:

A true sports nut, and he passed that on to me. We went to Philly Eagles' games for 35 years on season tickets, and I missed only 10 games in all that time--three for law school finals, three to sleet/freezing rain on games on TV (why risk your neck driving in that?), two to family weddings, one to adopting my son and one Monday night game when I was just starting out and my dad deemed me too young. He's an accountant and has been exceptionally active in his church, presiding over its board and/or as its treasurer for much of my life. He also was on the local school board for over a decade. Competitive in the extreme, a debater, well informed on current events. A great role model in many ways, and I hope I've emulated the best of him.

my mom:

Quieter than my dad, but every bit as "persistent" in her terminology as my dad. She's worked as a secretary all her adult life, but in today's world with student loans, she'd have made a great college student. Who knows where she would have gone? She passed along a love of reading to my sister and I. A lot like her mother, and she'd regard that as the highest of compliments, and I mean it that way. Mom's only real flaw is that old too nice for her own good bit. She's learned over the years, the hard way, but she's gotten better at it. You might not realize it at first, but she's a real tough cookie when she has to be. I think most people would think my dad's tougher, and he's no slouch--but the quieter of the two is the one with more steel in her spine when the chips are down. She loves being a grandma, to both my son and nephew. I hope I've taken some of her best qualities as my own as well.

Both my folks are still working and healthy. Hope they have many healthy years to go.
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Jim Albright

08-06-2005, 01:56 PM
Name: Pete
Age: Almost 14

Until May of last year, I lived in LA. I then moved to Norway, because my mom is Norwegian. But now I've moved to Maryland.

I have been a Dodger fan since I was 2, when my dad first took me to a game. For the past three years, I have been obsessed with baseball history, doing an 100 page report on it for school last year.

I like rock, and I can't stand rap, it is not even music.

08-21-2005, 02:24 PM
MojoRisin' 71: Some people call me Mojo, Jim, or just plain "Mr. Mojo"

Birthday: June 24

Born in: El Salvador until age 4, then I moved to Ventura, CA, and now I spend most of my time in Oxnard, CA

Education: The usual: high school and college, and am now a prospective chemist, hopefully at UCSD in the spring.

How I got into baseball: I always liked to read as a kid, so I picked up the newspaper every morning and read just about everything, but there were two things I didn't understand at age 5: the stock market and baseball box scores. I didn't learn the stock market until age 15, but baseball came easily to me. First baseball game I saw on TV was A's-Angels, and I always thought it was interesting to see 9 guys on a diamond trying to hit a small projectile coming at them at approximately 90 mph. And I was hooked after that. I also followed other sports, namely soccer (football), basketball, football, and occasionally hockey, but nothing beats baseball. I grew up as one of the few kids who knew some baseball.

Favorite ballplayers: Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale, Jackie Robinson, Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, Willie Mays (even though he was a Giant), Denton Young, Cool Papa Bell, Josh Gibson, Bob Gibson, Carl Furillo, Fernando Valenzuela, Steve Garvey, and anyone who currently plays for the LA Dodgers.

Favorite teams: LA Dodgers, Oakland A's. I'm a firm believer in the "no man can serve two teams in the same league" philosophy. And 1988 was payback for the embarrassing 1974 Series anyway.

First baseball game: Braves at Dodger Stadium, where I got my first exposure to the Tomahawk Chop.

Hobbies: writing, reading, jogging, playing guitar, and just taking an occasional Sunday drive around my vicinity.

Crazy fact about me: I'm fluent in French and English (Spanish was my first language)


Favorite movies: The Godfather (first two), Ben Hur, The Sting, Vertigo, Psycho, The Birds, Apocalypse Now, Star Wars (the "first" three), Death Wish (the first three), Rain Man, The Silence of the Lambs, Un Chien Andalou, and all James Bond movies.

Favorite Rock Bands: Anything from 1967-1975. If I started to list what I like, I'd clog up this thread. Includes, but not limited to: The Doors, The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Santana, all Eric Clapton bands, The Who, Black Sabbath, The Eagles, Queen, Jimi Hendrix, War, etc.

Favorite Rock CD's: Includes, but not limited to: LA Woman, Morrison Hotel, Abbey Road, The White Album, Paranoid, I, II, III, IV, Physical Graffitti, Foxtrot, Who's Next, Tommy, Wheels of Fire, Disraeli Gears, All Things Must Pass, Chicago Transit Authority, Electric Ladyland, Are You Experienced?, Abraxas, Santana, Santana III, Dark Side of the Moon, Animals, Wish You Were Here, The Wall, Meddle, etc.

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: The Beatles 1967-1970, Symptom of the Universe, Early and Latter Days, The Cream of Clapton, Best of Santana, Echoes: The Best of Pink Floyd. It's kinda hard to compile them, so that's why I burn them myself.

Music I Don't Care For: Country/Western, most 80s stuff, and whatever is the artiste du jour on MTV. I try to keep an open mind in music, but I just can't seem to appreciate these genres (especially the latter)

Classical Music: Some Beethoven, Brahms, Mozart, Bach (the Hendrix of the harpsichord, or is Hendrix the Bach of guitar?), Mahler, Schoenberg, Schumann, etc.

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jackie Robinson, Jim Thorpe, Muhammad Ali, Jesse Owens, Mack Robinson, Paavo Nurmi, Abebe Bikila, Mark Spitz, George Blanda, Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Ty Cobb, Lou Brock, Rickey Henderson

Favorite Basketball Players: Oscar Robertson, George Mikan, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Bob Cousy, John Stockton

Favorite Football Runners: Gale Sayers, Walter Payton, Emmett Smith, Jim Brown, Franco Harris.

Favorite Movie Directors: Alfred Hitchcock, Francis Ford Coppola, William Wyler, Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, Oliver Stone

Favorite Actors: Marlon Brando, John Wayne, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, John Cazale, James Stewart, James Dean, Humphrey Bogart, Richard Burton, Yul Brynner, Charlton Heston, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Robert Duvall, Gregory Peck, Tom Hanks, Jude Law, Denzel Washington, Laurence Fishburne, Samuel L. Jackson, Sean Connery, Roger Moore, Ben Stiller

Favorite Actresses: Elizabeth Taylor, Ingrid Bergman, Kim Novak, Lauren Bacall, Audrey Hepburn, Katherine Hepburn, Julia Roberts, Diane Lane, Nicole Kidman, Drew Barrymore, Pam Grier, Lucy Liu

Favorite Books:
The Bible
Catch-22, Joseph Heller
Huckleberry Finn, Mark Twain
Macbeth, William Shakespeare
Of Mice and Men, John Steinbeck
The Old Man and the Sea, Ernest Hemingway
Metamorphosis, Franz Kafka
The Gulag Archipelago, Alexander Solzhenitsyn
100 Years of Solitude, Gabriel Garcia Marquez
The Godfather, Mario Puzo
Night, Elie Wiesel
The 48 Laws of Power, Robert Greene

Favorite Sports Books:
The ESPN Encyclopedia (that's all I need)

Favorite Rock Geniuses: Jimi Hendrix, Lennon/McCartney, Jagger/Richards, Plant/Page, Waters/Gilmour, Brian Wilson, Phillips/Dougherty, John Fogerty, Duane Allman and Dicky Betts, Tony Iommi, CSNY, etc.

Favorite Rock Voices: Freddie Mercury, David Bowie, Robert Plant, Ozzy Osbourne, Edwin Starr, Marvin Gaye, Eric Burdon, John Fogerty, Gregg Rolie, Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross, Tammi Terrell, Chrissie Hynde, Debbie Harry.

Men I admire Most: Again, If I started to list them, I'd never finish, so here is an abridged list:

Jesus, Aristotle, Socrates, Plato, Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo Buonarotti, Miguel Cervantes de Saavedra, Thomas More, Joan of Arc, Talleyrand, Emile Zola, Raoul Wallenberg, Voltaire, Pope John Paul II, etc.

My Most Admired Americans:

Martin Luther King, Jr., Ralph Abernathy, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, etc

Technically Best-Made Movies: Lord of the Rings trilogy, the first Star Wars trilogy, the Matrix, Alien, Rosemary's Baby, The Birds, Vertigo

Favorite Rock Tunes: As of today:
Machine Gun, Hendrix
Can't Find My Way Home, Blind Faith
Fearless, Pink Floyd
Free Four, Pink Floyd
Dear Prudence, The Beatles
I Want You (She's So Heavy), The Beatles
Light My Fire, The Doors
You Just Don't Care, Santana
Toussaint L'Overture, Santana
How Many More Times, Led Zeppelin
The Rain Song, Led Zeppelin
Hush, Deep Purple
East-West, Paul Butterfield Blues Band
I'm A Man, Chicago

Pet peeves: Anyone who has had the opportunity to an education, but willfully throws it away. I've seen a lot of people who have had their share of personal problems that impedes them from fully achieving their goals, but if you absolutely refuse to learn, then you've got another thing coming. I also hate people who drive 45 in the fast lane, and I hate people who drive and talk on their cell phones simultaneously. Take away these groups of people, and you have solved the LA traffic problem.

That's about it. Those who are close to me know that I'm not one to talk too much about myself, and to sum up something my father used to say: "the more you talk, the less you live." Which is why I prefer to be concise and brief, just like my posts here at BBF (even though this one is an anomaly)
Jim will do just fine. For the record, I was born in 1980.

08-22-2005, 12:43 AM
My name is Rik (that would be the R in rbrittain56) and I was was born August 3, 1956 in Enid, Oklahoma. The family moved to Robstown, Texas when I was 4 and my primary education came courtesy of the Robstown Independant School District. My high school produced the NFL's Marvin and Eugene Upshaw.
As a youngster I had five great passions: reading, drawing, building models of WWII warbirds, birdwatching (which I got into at the age of 8) and baseball.
Neither of my parents were much on baseball, so I came to baseball largely through my grandmother. When we would visit my grandparents in Oklahoma in the summers, I would listen to the St. Louis Cardinals and Harry Carey with my grandmother on the radio. A still fond memory. Used to rush home from to try and catch the end of the World Series games when they used to play all day games. My brother (who is also a birdwatcher and baseball fan) became a lifelong Boston Red Sox fan in 1967. A really good natural athlete, he even learned to hit left-handed so he could emulate Yaz. I rarely watch baseball these days, 1994 really soured me on the game I love.
A through and through lefty, my overly protective (but loving) mom would not allow me to play Little League ball (no matter how much I whined) although I was allowed to try out for the high school ball, but never made the team and my senior year I dislocated my left shoulder which ended that little "dream". Played softball for 20+ years and even a couple of years of over 40 baseball, the sum of my personal, organized athletic "career".
In my adult life , I have lived in Houston, Corpus Christi, Biloxi, MS, San Antonio, Sierra Vista, AZ, Houston (again), Dallas, Indianapolis, Loganville, GA before moving back to the area I grew up in (currently reside in Mathis, TX).
My baseball loyalties lie with the Houston Astros and I enjoy the occasional football game (Dallas Cowboys) but have never really cared for basketball.
Favorite Books: all my field guides (birds, mammals, reptiles, butterflies, wildflowers), anything by Jim Hightower, Howard Zinn, or Molly Ivins, Killing Hope by William Blum, the Project Censored books, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig.
Favorite Baseball books: Lords of the Realm by John Helyar, Image of Their Greatness by Lawrence Ritter, Historical Baseball Abstract by Bill James, Shoeless Joe by W.P. Kinsella.
Favorite movies: The Searchers, Field of Dreams, The Quiet Man, Pulp Fiction, El Mariachi (and the American remake Desperado), Oh Brother Where Art Thou, Airplane, Singing in the Rain, Chicago, 61*, JFK oh hell there are too many to list.
Music: Enjoy music from all genres (have even heard a couple of rap songs I enjoyed). Classical (Mozart, Tchaikovsky and Wagner my favorite composers), Country (old school Hank Williams, George Jones, Hoyt Axton Emmylou Harris). 50s rock (Elvis okay but Orbison better), 60s Motown, Rock, some heavy metal, reggae, etc. Two favorite groups are Dire Straits and Steely Dan. Can't bring myself to disparage any particular genre or today's music because everytime I think I can generalize about such things, something comes along to prove me wrong.
Favorite ballplayers: only guys I have actually seen listed here be it on TV or in person. Bob Gibson, Carl Yastrzemski, Tom Seaver, Nolan Ryan, Bob Watson, Jose Cruz, Norm Cash, Luis Tiant, Bobby Bonds, Joe Morgan, Doug Rader, Carlton Fisk, Willie Mays, Phil Garner, Art Howe, Joe Niekro, Enos Cabell, Craig Biggio, Sonny Siebert, Rick Wise, Chris Short, Ron Hansen, Hoyt Wilhelm, Oralndo Cepeda, Willie Aikens, Daddy Wags, Gene Tenace just to name a few.
First baseball game: May 1971 or 1972 Astrodome, Reds vs Astros, Johnny Bench hit 2 home runs one an inside-the-parker.
Been a member of this forum for quite awhile but am not a prolific poster ( I write poorly) but surprised I had not seen this posting before. Good to "meet" y'all.

08-25-2005, 09:07 PM
:waving My turn, seeing as I plan on sticking around this board for a while!

Let's see...

My name is Ann.
Never ask a woman how old she is, especially if you think she may be over 35! ;)

Live on the Canadian prairies.
Work as an OSHA officer.

Lived in many different cities across this country over the years. Rarely stayed in one place for more than 3 years. Dad worked heavy construction...had to go where the jobs were. Mom stayed home and raised us brats the best she could. Who would have thought three daughters could be so much grief. I love them both dearly. I don't see much of them as they live in Ontario.

I have a huband (#2), one daughter, a dog and too many tropical fish to count!

Worked as a heavy equipment operator building roads to put myself through college and again through university. Worked as a Safety Professional in the industrial sector and as a Registered Nurse prior to my current career.

I have a diploma in Health and Safety, a BSc in Nursing, currently working on a Masters in Industrial Hygiene. Yes, it is a strange combination, but that is a story for later.

Other hobbies: watching my daughter on the diamond playing soft(skirt)ball, watching baseball (preferably from the stands-I have been known to drive 3 hours one-way to watch ball), building model cars, fixing the real ones, watching cart (old 'Indy') racing, camping, raising tropical fish, playing with my big stupid lovable dog.

On to the baseball stuff.

I am a certified baseball coach. I coached ball for several years, T-ball to PeeWee (ages 10-13).

I am a certified baseball umpire, one of approximately 10 female umpires in the province. I have umpired seriously for the past 4 years. Everything from Little League to Masters, mostly all-male teams. I average 100 games a season, half of these behind the plate.

I love to be on the diamond! Gives a whole new dimension to the game...and a greater appreciation for all involved. For the most part, I laugh (internally) at the hecklers, and most of the hot-headed coaches/players. After all, I am not the one booting the ball around the infield, missing catches, swinging at obvious 'balls'. Like everything else in my life...I call 'em as I see 'em.

I don't have a favorite player, coach, or team. I don't usually keep track of stats - unless it is our local Western Major League team.

I will be attending clinic in the spring to become an Umpire Course Conductor (Trainer). Hoping for a National assignment in the 2006 season. My goal is an International assignment before I reach 40!

Both my husband and the youngest of our daughters umpire baseball.
Needless to say, there is a lot of baseball talk in our house. We are all baseball nuts. My daughter begged an pleaded to missed the first 2 weeks of grade 6 to stay in Toronto to watch a game at the SkyDome. I think she was cheering for the Yankees! (yes, I caved in!).

I look forward to some interesting, challenging exchanges on this board.

Yes, I tend to be a bit of a poo-disturber! :D But that can make life interesting, especially when you challenge people to think about what they are thinking! I love a challenge.

Yours in baseball,
Ann continues her wonderful saga (August 26, 2005; 05:38 AM):

Hi Bill

What the heck are you thinking . We play and love baseball up here in the frozen North

Saskatchewan is the ball capital of the prairies!! We have 3 diamonds in my small (approx population of 35K) town that are going almost every night from late April to late August, not to mention all the Little League diamonds. Not a summer weekend goes by without a tournament...I love it.

Yes, there is such an animal as the "female umpire". We have quite a few serious umpires across the country. By serious I mean that they are working towards or have worked National and International tournaments. I am currently heading up the development of a program to encourage, develop, retain female umpires in the province. The 'old boys school' is starting to crumble.

No we are not a "one sport" family. My daughter is heavily into competitive Judo, myself for recreation and training in the "off season". As a family, we watch basketball, Canadian football (whati is with the extra down and sissy fields anyways?), Cart (Indy) and formula 1 and, yes, hockey with varying degrees of enthusiasm. My daughter takes great interst in the larger sporting events (olympics, worlds) regardless of the sport, however, she has developed a disliking for gymnastics and skating.

The whole hockey thing has left a bad taste in my mouth again. How is it that people with god-given talent, doing the thing they love be so greedy. If only I could get that kind of money.........
August 26, 2005, 05:52 AM
No offence taken, Bill.

There is a thread regarding women players in the majors. Had a good chuckle at some of the comments.

You are right though. There is still discrimination against us women in sports, similar to that against other races, religions, sexual orieintation.

You all need to sit back, relax, keep your arms and legs inside the cab at all times and enjoy the ride!

Some times it helps to read a post a couple of times before getting upset/angry or comming down with a case of "political correct-ness".

It is truely unfortunate that tone of voice and body expressions can not be adequately portrayed when posting.

Thought you had "freedom of speach"?!?

Carry on, Bill

08-25-2005, 10:50 PM
Name: Rich

Age: 18

Home: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, born and raised.

Schooling: University of Pennsylvania, no major yet.

Employment: Unemployed.

Hobbies: Poker, Music, Sports.

Favorite Movies: Any mob movie, anything by Stanley Kubrick,

Favorite Actors: Ed Norton, Robert DeNiro

Favorite Director: Stanley Kubrick

Favorite Bands: Radiohead, Tool, Nine Inch Nails, The Mars Volta, Pink Floyd, The Cure, the Doors, and a lot more.

Favorite Athletes: Don't really have any favorites, but when I younger I was big on Ken Griffey.

Southlake CubsFan
08-25-2005, 11:14 PM
Name : Trevor
Age: 15, almost 16
School: Southlake Carroll Dragons (highschool)
Interests: watching dragon football games (its basically the thing to do in southlake, im sure some of you know), im a dragon band nerd, also play soccer

ahh what else......
basically you can tell what team i like by my sig

i hope to go to Illinois for college, i lived there for 13 years, hence why i like all illinois teams, i live in texas currently...ahh thats all i can think of
hating on illinois? come on man, the best combo out there... Illinois,Bears,Cubs...great combo there! i must say i do respect purdue though, heck of a program...kyle orton, he may come in handy this here for the bears

09-03-2005, 11:56 PM
Simon Foster
November 23, 1971, Melbourne (or close enough!), Australia
Have lived in Australia, the UK, and the USA

Finished school 1989

Graduated BA (Double-major in History, minor in Politics, incl Middle Eastern & Soviet) 1992

Qualified as a law clerk/paralegal 2004 (GPA was around 3.25). Virtually no jobs though for an over-30 law clerk just starting out …

SF Giants (wish they would become the NY Giants again – then maybe Mrs. McGraw’s curse could be lifted)

How I came to follow Baseball:
I came by my BB passion all by myself. No baseball teams exist around here, (I think the nearest is about 20 miles away, and I may be too far on the wrong side of 30 to start playing.

Baseball is not exactly the highest-profile sport in this country. If you want to watch any games, you have to subscribe to Foxtel (not exactly cheap!).

However, there is good news. My softball team starts its season next month. The last game I played I made a double play (caught one runner out at RF and threw out the runner coming home), but that was a while back. Also I have got together a slow-pitch softball team for this year’s Australian Corporate Games (19-20 November). We start training soon (haven’t decided on what date, though).

Played most sports on a school or club level, e.g., tennis, football (soccer), softball (House captain at school), squash, athletics (always ran the 200m in a higher-age level than I was at school athletics day), cross-country, etc. I also part-qualified for my UEFA “C” football coaching Badge. Also coached girls’ football when I lived in the UK (1999-2000).

Various jobs, fairly exclusively in Accounts. I have been at my present company (Village Roadshow) since mid-March. At the moment, I ensure that we receive the money that Television stations owe us for showing films that we distribute.

I have also been a tennis umpire since 1994 and have umpired most of the ‘big’ names, e.g., Agassi, Sampras, Williams (both), Hewitt, Henman, etc.

Also spent 2 years (1990-92) in the Army Reserve and 5 years in the Air Force Cadets (1984-89)

Favourite Ballplayers:
Walter Johnson, Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Yogi Berra, Lou Gehrig, Sandy Koufax, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Whitey Ford, Eddie Lopat, Christy Matthewson, Mickey Cochrane. Probably more will come to mind, but that’s it for the moment …

Favourite Movies:
Shadow of the Vampire, Star Wars series (except I, and to a certain extent, II), Hammer Horror series, They Died With Their Boots On, All Quiet on the Western Front, Battle of Britain, Alfie (the original version), Zulu, The Italian Job, The Fighting Sullivans

Favourite Baseball Movies:
The Natural, Field of Dreams, Bull Durham, A League of Their Own, Baseball: A Film by Ken Burns, The Rookie, Eight Men Out

Favourite Rock Bands:
Beatles, Rolling Stones, Kinks, Who, Madness, Buddy Holly & The Crickets, Hank Williams, Eddie Cochran, Muddy Waters, Stevie Wonder, Motown

Favourite Rock CDs:
Too many to list. Pretty much refer to above list as a guide

Call This Music???:
Hard Rock (depends, though – you can rock AND still sound good – just listen to some of George Harrison’s guitar solos), Heavy/Death Metal, Rap, House/Techno/Modern “R&B”

Music That Doesn't Make Me Want To Do Evil to Others:
Classical (mostly the well-known stuff – NOT the modern stuff), Country AND Western, Blues, 50s-80s, Big Bands (includes Sinatra Martin and Glenn Miller), Andy Williams, Carla Bruni

Favourite Books::
The Oxford History of the Classical World
Anything by Arthur Hailey, e.g., Airport, Hotel, in High Places
The Dilbert series
Gone With the Wind
Cheshire Fifoot and Furmston’s Law of Contract
I really don’t get that much time to read, unfortunately

Favourite Baseball Books:
My Life in Baseball - the True Record, Ty Cobb
Baseball’s Golden Age. The Photographs of Charles M. Conlon
The Mick
Iron Horse
Ten Rings
Men at Work
Joe di Maggio. The Hero’s Life
The Head Game
The National League Story
Summer of 49

Family’s Military Service:
My father was drafted to go to VietNam (discharged the day before Tet in 68). Altogether, approx 8 of my family have seen armed conflict (WWI, WW2, VietNam). A couple of others have served, but not gone overseas.
lol. I've called lines for him (4th Round Aus Open 2005). Done most of the big names who play at the moment (come to think of it, I've called lines for all the present top 10 ATP & WTA, except for Nadal (men) & Clijsters (women)).

Branch Rickey's great nephew is a linesman/central umpire. Saw him on TV at the US Open Men's Semi-Final & (I think) Final.

09-04-2005, 09:53 AM
Edited look on page 8

09-05-2005, 01:10 AM
Zach Jendro
1977 in Fargo, ND, now live in the Cincinnati area

The Twins. Ups and downs, gutters and strikes...

How I came to follow Baseball:
The 1991 World Series. I taught myself to keep score and I haven't looked back. As far as I am concerned, that Series will live down as the best. Kirby Puckett, Game 6. Jack Morris, Game 7. Sends shivvers up my spine.

Favourite Ballplayers:
Man there are too many to count. Number one is Honus Wagner, possibly the finest five tool player to play the game. Ed Delahanty, Dan Brouthers, Three Finger Brown, Mathewson. Walter Johnson for his grace and excellence. Guy Hecker, Hugh Jennings, John McGraw.

Favourite Baseball Movies:
Eight Men Out, Ken Burns' Baseball, I love vintage archive footage, Field of Dreams

Favourite Rock Bands:
The Band, The Beatles, Mike Nesmith, Roy Wood, The Beach Boys, ELO, Willie Nelson, The Move, Gram Parsons

Favourite Rock CDs:
The Band's "Rock of Ages". Possibly the finest live album ever recorded.

Call This Music???:
Rap and Death/Speed Metal. Yuck.

Right now I am reading a book about Ed Delahanty. If anyone wants to discuss old baseball, I am game!

Thank you for your kind words. Of course I love the old Twins, how could a sane person not? I thought about this post and I forgot one of my all time favorites. Nap Lajoie, how could I forget The Frenchman? Of course Eddie Collins and all those you mentioned, and many Negro Leaguers, especially Biz Mackey. As for The Last Waltz, it is a masterpiece. If anyone wants to hear a fine piece of music check out "I Shall be Released", the grand finale with Bob Dylan from that film. Long live Levon Helm!!!


I've listened to "I Shall Be Released", from The Last Waltz many a time, and love it every time. In 1972, I was a 21 yr. old professional rock dancer, and loved to dance to it while the band played it live. I also want to give a shout out of props to "Up On Cripple Creek", from The Last Waltz. It is much better than the single version. More dynamic, cooler.

And I also definitely need to sing the praises of Down South In New Orleans, from The Last Waltz. Such a classic beautiful piece of music.

Ever check out their single, Rockin' Chair? Such a cool, beautiful song. Almost rusticly rocking in the rocking chair, gazing out at the beautiful, blue sea. That's the image I get listening to this tune. Of course The Weight needs be mentioned. Fantastic taste for remembering a great band which never got the acclaim they deserved. Don't you love the way they start off with Bob Dylan's "When I Paint My Masterpiece"? That's Garth Hudson making that accordian sound like an Italian street fare.

Camilo Pascual used to be one of my favorite pitchers. Best curve in the MLs.

Thank you so much, Zach, for being a Biz Mackey admirer! He's one of my boys.



09-05-2005, 02:18 PM
My contribution to this amazing thread.

Name: Samuel Hwang
Born: 12/02/90 in Albuquerque, NM to my parents Yong and Jung Hwang
Family: Yong, Father; Jung, Mother; David, Brother
Birthmark(s): Blue turqoise circle on my left shoulder, brown smudge-ish spot on my right ankle.
Places I've Lived: Albuquerque, NM, moved to Palo Alto, CA on Valentine's Day 1998. People at my new school soon started calling me Sammy Sosa due to the big story of the year being the great HR chase of Sosa and McGwire.
School: Gunn High

How I became interested in baseball: My dad became a big Cubs fan when he moved to Illinois from South Korea in 1985 (good year for Chicago sports, the Bears dominated the league and won the Super Bowl, Michael Jordan went to the Bulls). Passed on his universal love for sports to me, I loved basketball and football until I moved to California and fell in love with the Giants. I do not go to watch that many baseball games (maybe once every two seasons), but 1/2 of the games I've been to there has been a game winning HR by Barry Bonds. One in 98 or 99 against the Phillies, and the other in the fantastic game against the Diamondbacks (2003) where he threw out Shea Hillenbrand in the top of the ninth, then hit the game-winning HR in the bottom.

Favorite Baseball Players: David Wright, Noah Lowry, Barry Bonds, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Ted Williams, Stan Musial, Mickey Cochrane

Favorite Bands: Unlike a lot of my MTV-generation friends, I prefer old bands a lot more then new stuff, though not all of the 90's-00's music is horrible. Queen (favorite), The Beatles, Ray Charles, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Strokes, Vince Guaraldi, Earth/Wind/Fire, The Eagles, Jack Johnson, George Gershwin, Aerosmith, Phoenix, and the Foo Fighters dominate my playlists.

Favorite Non-Sports Figures: Martin Luther King Jr., Gregory Peck, Freddie Mercury, Will Ferrell, Mr. Peterson (8th grade math teacher), Mr. Hernandez (current Communications teacher), my Mom, Dad, Grandpa, and my brother.

Favorite Sport Besides Baseball: European/South American soccer. A complete joy to watch. My favorite team is Liverpool FC, who recently won one of the most thrilling Champions League finals ever. Favorite players include Steven Gerrard, Dennis Bergkamp, Zinedine Zidane, Peter Schmeichel, and John Terry. Often sneak into the art class at school with my friends at lunch to catch some footy, since games are usually around noon Pacific Time

Favorite Movies: Ocean's Eleven, Anchorman (I probably quote this movie a bit too often), Rocky I, II, III, and IV

09-06-2005, 08:04 AM
Alright, I guess I'll jump in here.
Shane Schirmer
35 years old
Live just outside Cincinnati with my beautiful wife, seven month old daughter, and two rambunctious labs
Born in Wisconsin, raised in Georgia (have lived in 7 states total)
Northern Kentucky University
I sell Satellite and RF equipment to Cable TV companies, broadcast television networks, and Colleges and Universities.
Favorite Band: REM
Favorite Teams: Cubs and Indians
Boyhood hero: Ron Guidry (I'm a lefty)

09-06-2005, 03:44 PM
Name: Jason Nelson
Born: 4/21/1977
Family: Lovely wife Katy and 4 children (GBGG 12-11-6-3)
School: AAS in IT working my way (very slowly) through to my Bachelor's with emphasis on Computer Programming[/B]
Home(s): Kansas City, MO to St. Louis, MO to Minneapolis, MN back to Kansas City to finally Topeka, KS.

How I became interested in baseball: July 24, 1983 George Brett, Goose Gossage, and the Pine Tar homerun. I was still pretty young but to see the raw passion of Brett and just the incredible buzz that followed the game around Kansas City caught me. The next season I started the road towards fanaticism.

Favorite Baseball Players: Tris Speaker, Willie Stargell, George Brett, Hal McRae, Vlad Guerrero, and knuckleball pitchers in general.

Favorite Sport Besides Baseball: It used to be football, but I just don't have the enthusiasm for the sport I once had. I guess I would consider golf my second sport I would rather play or watch.

Favorite Movies: Any old Marx Brothers movie (Animal Crackers and The Coconuts get the nod), a solid war movie (Full Metal Jacket or Apoc Now), or movies with a story to tell that doesn't take itself too seriously (A Clockwork Orange or Clerks).

How I found Baseball-Fever: I lurked about for a long time, but an invite from HonusWagnerRules gave me the motivation to register. I've been waiting for a rebuttal from him on a Hornsby vs Collins debate and I will track him across the Internet until he conceeds. :D

09-13-2005, 07:15 AM
I just spotted this thread. (I don't spend much time over here since they started the hall of fame forum.) Thanks for starting this, Bill. I'll adapt my bio from over at Baseball Think Factory.

I’m 45 and a lifelong Detroit-area resident, growing up on the east side. I work for the Archdiocese of Detroit as a parish auditor. Previous to this, I was a Mr. Mom for about a decade. I’ve been married 17 years and have two boys ages 16 and 13. (My younger son is the sports guy, a natural athlete, unlike his dad.)
I’ve been compiling and puzzling over the hall of fame voting for over 30 years, constantly concocting improvement schemes and lists of who should be in or out. A lot of this is reflected in my articles at BFT in the Visitors Dugout.
I started following sports when I was 8, when Detroit was Tigertown, not Hockeytown. Although baseball has always been nearest to my heart, I’ve enjoyed following all the Detroit-area champs; Tigers 68, 84; Spartans 79, 00; Pistons 89, 90, 04; Wolverines 89, 97; Red Wings 97, 98, 02; Lions? I concluded 25 years ago they were hopeless as long as WC Ford was the owner.
I collected baseball cards for the numbers on the back. (I was pretty miffed in 1971, IIRC, when Topps printed only two stat lines rather than whole careers.) When I finally discovered Who’s Who in Baseball, I was ecstatic. When I got my first MacMillan Encyclopedia for my 17th birthday, I was in heaven. A couple years later I discovered APBA baseball and played in a league for about eight years.
As a college senior in 1982, I discovered the Baseball Abstract. The next year I joined SABR. For a couple years I had a regular featurette, called “Dan Greenia’s Freakshow”, in Bill James’ bimonthly sabermetric journal, The Baseball Analyst. In 1984 I applied for the position of Bill James' assistant, when he was looking to hire his first; I made the first cut, but he eventually hired Jim Baker. I also authored two articles that appeared in Baseball Digest in the late 80’s.
I’ve never had an article published by SABR, mainly due to the attitude of their former publications director. A couple times I pitched hall-of-fame-fix oriented articles to him, but he said they don’t print articles about that because there are too many submitted on the topic. I was reminded of Yogi Berra’s quote about a popular restaurant: “Nobody goes there anymore. It’s too crowded.” I suspect he was actually seeking to avoid controversy, in order to maintain SABR’s chummy relationship with the HOF.
Other part-time jobs I’ve had: phonebook deliveryman, guitar teacher, bookkeeper, symphony usher, reporter, retail cashier, accounting tutor, bank teller and music minister. Although I am a practicing Roman Catholic, my spirituality is greatly influenced by the teachings of G.I. Gurdjieff, aka The Fourth Way.
SABR has never been a social outlet for me. I’ve never been to a SABR convention and will not be making the trip next year.

09-13-2005, 08:18 AM
Favorite ballplayers: Cobb, Barnes, Mack, Pete Alexander, Ron LeFlore…

Favorite movies: Star Wars, Back To The Future, Don’t Look Back, Royal Tenenbaums, Rushmore, Bottle Rocket, Seven Samurai

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: Temptations, Lost Blues and Other Songs, “Yesterday” and Today, Meaty Beaty Big And Bouncy….um, really, if I’m listen to a “greatest hits” it’s because it’s a singles band or the albums (and usually the performer also) are/is really really weak.

Music I Don't Care For: Any thing that calls itself one thing but is really something else, such as pop that calls itself any other name, county, punk, junk

Favorite Actors: Marx Brother, Owen Wilson, Gong Li, but let’s face it, actors are just pawns

Favorite Authors:
Raymond Carver
Ed Sanders
Lawrence Ferlinghetti
Shel Silverstein

09-14-2005, 06:40 PM
Name: Shawn
Location: Round Lake Beach, IL
Birthdate: 11/10/1990

I am a Cubs fan. I like several other teams, but mostly when they dont interfere with the Cubs winning. I love reading. I read about 2 or 3 books a week (99% of which are of the baseball variety). I collect baseball autographs, mostly through the mail, I have over 200 as of 2/16/2010. My favorite players currently would be Aramis Ramirez, Tim Lincecum and Ichiro. All time, my favorites would be Billy Martin (number 1 on list), Joe Jackson and various others, but none who stand out above them. I am a learning fan of the dead ball era. I can hold my own in conversations about the era, but I am quickly learning more and more about it. Probably 50 percent of the books I have read are about that era. I also know quite a bit of pre war Cubs. I have a fascination with non existing teams, such as the Philadelphia Athletics, St. Louis Browns, etc. Although, I do not care much for the 2nd Senators or Expos, probably due to the recentness.

I am engaged to my lovely fiance Gretal, have been for a couple years now. I work at a pizza place called Jimanos, is a small chain in northern Illinois and southern Wisconsin. I love Chicago. I go to the city every few weeks to enjoy it and go to the library, which is far superior to any other library around here. I go to about 15 games a year. I enjoy listening to many kinds of music, mostly rock from the 60s through 80s. I like listening to WGN Radio as well. John Williams is THE best talk show host on the radio. I love Dr. Pepper, drink a 2 liter each day and love each one more than the last. I am not big in politics, but I am a republican, and if I ever were to vote, it would most likely be republican, but I will vote democrat if the dem is better than the rep. I enjoy the outdoors, I do lots of bike riding, try to put in 10 miles a day during the summer. I have never gone on a long distance ride, but plan to eventually. I watch lots of MLB Network, but not too much else outside of that. I watch several sitcoms, like the Simpsons, My Boys, My Name is Earl, but Im not addicted to tv. I used to watch WWE, but its too dramatical now a days. I wannas see wrestling, not half wrestling, half soap opera. I enjoy a good board game occasionally. I have been pretty hooked on Wii lately. I am an expert bowler on it! I plan to get good at real bowling this coming summer by going twice a week and strengthening my arm.

I am a Christian. I love my Lord Jesus. I listen to the Bible for the most part (I still like ACDC!). I pray each night. Church every sunday now that I dont work saturday nights. Although, I believe my religion is the right one, I encourage everyone to have a religion, even if it is not mine, for its better to believe in something than nothing. I do not look at any race or religion as being less than I am. We are all equal. A belief or color does not change who a person is.

That is all for now, I am most certainly up for questions if people have them.


09-15-2005, 08:15 AM
Let me jump in here with both feet.
I'm 64 years old and was born in Hamilton, OH. The family moved to the big city of Eaton, OH when I was very young. By big city, I mean around 3000 people in the soutwest Ohio farming country.
I graduated from Eaton High in 1959 and worked in a factory for several months. Joined the USAF in late 1959 and stayed until 1971. Spent 3 years in Germany and two more at a radar station in northern Japan.
I met my wife while stationed in Texas in 1966. We married in 1967. Although now divorced, we were together for 28 years. We had three children and ended up a military family. My wife was an Army nurse. My oldest daughter spent 6 years active in the Army and four years in the reserves. My youngest daughter is in the Navy and only has 7 years until retirement.
My father was born in 1895 and was sort of a wanderer until he met my mom. At one time, he owned a pool hall and was a professional gambler. After marriage, he settled down. He died of a heart attack in 1960.
Mom was a housewife and she passed in 1992.
After I left the USAF, we settled in Dayton, Oh and I worked in a professional photo lab for many years. The last job I had was a truck driver. I did that for over 9 years and then retired.
As for baseball. I remember always loving baseball. We played pick-up games all the time. No little league back then. I had scrapbooks of players pictures and many baseball cards. Wish I still had the cards but they got lost along the way.
I played high school ball and some semi-pro in Texas in the early 70's. I then played softball until I was 57 and my knees gave out.
My favorite team is the Reds and I like the Cubs and Red Sox also.
I just like sports and watch a lot of games on tv. I can really get into pro football. I did get to Cincinnati once this year for a game and saw several minor league games in Dayton.
There you go. You have my life story. Not very exciting but I enjoy it.

09-25-2005, 07:37 AM
Patrick Hogue
Born: February 12, 1966 West Covina, CA
Have lived in a 40 mile radius my whole life.

Dad: Born Buffalo, NY
Mom (and her mom) born in L.A.

Education: Cal State Fullerton (4 time NCAA Baseball champions) B.S. Finance
Chapman University M.B.A.

Work: Business Systems Analyst for large Mutual Fund company.

Favorite ballplayers: Ed Delahanty, Hugh Jennings, Nap Lajoie, Walter Johnson, Honus Wagner, Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Stan Musial, Roy Campanella, Sandy Koufax, Ernie Banks, Steve Garvey, Tony Gwynn, Kirby Puckett (not so much anymore), Greg Maddux, Vlad Guerrero

Favorite movies: Braveheart, LOTR (all 3 movies), Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Usual Suspects, Goodfellas

Favorite Rock Bands: Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, U2, REM, The Jam, The Clash, Midnight Oil, The Pogues, The Cure

Favorite Rock CD's: Piper at the Gates of Dawn, Wish you Were Here, The Wall, Zeppelin II, IV, Houses of the Holy, London Calling

Classical Music: Purcell, Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, Liszt

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: We could have a whole thread on this but I would go with Jim Thorpe

Favorite Basketball Players: Magic Johnson.

Favorite Football Players: Terry Bradshaw,Franco Harris, Jack Lambert, Joe Greene, Mel Blount, Lynn Swann, Jack Ham, Donnie Shell, Mike Webster, Rod Woodson, etc...

Favorite Movie Directors: Martin S., Stanley Kubrick, Peter Jackson.

Favorite Actors: DeNiro, Pacino, Eastwood, McQueen,
Comedy: Stooges, Belushi, Farley

Favorite Books:
Cosmos - Carl Sagan
Several by Graham Hancock

Favorite Sports Books:

The Glory of Their Times, by Lawrence Stanley Ritter
Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, by Bill James
Where They Aint by Burt Solomon

Favorite Rock Geniuses: John Lennon, Syd Barrett, The Edge

Some hobbies: Playing with my young kids, Running, Hiking/Climbing, Wake Boarding, Poker, Genealogy...oh and Baseball.

Sports: My best sports were soccer and also run cross country and track in HS. Still play hoops with my buddies on Saturday mornings.

That's all for now.
If you're going to call me Pattie, I'll be expecting a cold Guinness from you next March 17th.

I never put up great times, I had knee problems that have seemed to go away as I've aged. I know, it doesn't make sense.

Anyway, I never quite broke 5 in the mile (5:10) which has always been a dissapointment to me. I once ran a 2:18 880, and right around 12:00 in the 2 mile. In cross country I once posted a 16:50 which is faster than my 2 mile pace.

My greater endurance accomplishments have been Mt. Whitney (3 times), as well as other 14,000 ft. peaks, White Mountain and Mt. Langley.

Getting ready to head out to watch some football before watching the Angel game in Anaheim this afternoon. So I'll catch you this evening.
Bill to Patrick:
I was also a runner. I always felt I had 9:40 2-miles potential in me.
When I ran a 4:34 mile, and came back 30 minutes later and won again in 10:16 for 2-miles, I always believed I'd have clocked 9:40 if fresh.
Honus Wagner Rules was also a runner.
"I ran a 2:03 800 m, 4:26 1600m, and a 9:43 3200m. Aslo ran a 35:02 10K. My track times were form 1986 and the 10 K from 1985...
Patrick to Bill, he's very modest.
You guys smoked me! Either of you would have been the top miler at my HS.
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09-26-2005, 09:03 PM
Name: Randy
Age: 28
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 175
Born: Sept. 19th, 1977 in Sunnyside, Washington


Dad and mom still married. Have a brother who is 2 years older than myself.


Babe Ruth tattoo on right shoulder-blade

Places I've Lived

In Portland, Oregon my whole life. I've traveled to Arizona, Washington, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, California, and Mexico. (Soon to be vegas in October, and soon to be Hawthorne, NY asap)


High School and then some college on baseball scholarship

How I became interested in baseball

I've played since tee ball, and still play in a semi-pro league with my brother and some buddies.
I pitched and played shortstop every year up until high school, until the coach moved me to centerfield because of the similar arm motion. I pitched and played center all through high school, and just played center in college. Still play center, although the legs aren't what they used to be.


Ruth, Gehrig, Pujols, DiMaggio, Cobb, Andruw Jones, Rickey Henderson


Tool, Marley, Zeppelin, Floyd, Dylan, Eminem, Bone Thugs, Petty, Jack Johnson


Godfather 1 & 2 (3 blows), Scarface, Goodfellas, Raging Bull, Deer Hunter, Taxi Driver, Carlito's Way, Ronin, Heat, A Bronx Tale, Resevoir Dogs, True Romance, Full Metal Jacket, Tombstone, Seven, Happy Gilmore, Dumb and Dumber, Butterfly Effect

Fav. Baseball Movies

Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, Babe Ruth "The Life Behind the Legend", Eight Men Out, Major League

Fav.Baseball Books

Babe (Robert Creamer), The Science of Hitting, The Life That Ruth Built, Real Grass Real Heroes

Fav. Football players

DeAngelo Hall, LaDanian Tomlinson

Fav. Basketball players

Dominique Wilkins, Tracy McGrady

Fav. Hockey players

Shanahan, Jagr, B. Hull, Yzerman


baseball, poker, drinkin', women, mountain biking, xbox
Bill to Randy:
Seems you bear unlimited love for Martin Scorsese and his favorite guys, Robert DeNiro, Joe Pesci. You have something for NY gangsters/wiseguys? Martin Scorsese is one of the greats.
My favorite Scorsese flicks.

No Direction Home: Bob Dylan - A Martin Scorsese Picture (2005) (TV)
Gangs of New York (2002)
Casino (1995)
The Age of Innocence (1993)
Cape Fear (1991)
The King of Comedy (1983)
Raging Bull (1980)
The Last Waltz (1978)
New York, New York (1977)
Randy to Bill:
I guess you could say I have a thing for those kind of movies; I'm just into Pacino and DeNiro movies really. Just so happens their best ones tend to be a bit violent, lol.

If I HAD to pick 8 movies from each:

DeNiro - Goodfellas, Raging Bull, Heat, Jackie Brown, Taxi Driver, Ronin, Deer Hunter, Casino

Pacino - Godfather 1 and 2, Scarface, Serpico, Carlito's Way, Heat, Sea of Love, The Insider

Scorsese is a freikin' genius, most don't realize he did "The Color of Money." Also, "Bringing out the Dead", which displayed his trademark use of directed lighting, similar to Casino.
Bill to Randy:
Favorite Robert DeNiro movies.

Great Expectations (1998) .... Arthur Lustig
Jackie Brown (1997) .... Louis Gara
Wag the Dog (1997) .... Conrad Brean
Casino (1995) .... Sam 'Ace' Rothstein
A Bronx Tale (1993) .... Lorenzo Anello
This Boy's Life (1993) .... Dwight Hansen
Mad Dog and Glory (1993) .... Wayne 'Mad Dog' Dobie
Cape Fear (1991) .... Max Cady
Awakenings (1990) .... Leonard Lowe
Goodfellas (1990) .... Jimmy Conway
Midnight Run (1988) .... Jack Walsh
Angel Heart (1987) .... Louis Cyphre
Falling in Love (1984) .... Frank Raftis
The King of Comedy (1983) .... Rupert Pupkin
The Deer Hunter (1978) .... Michael Vronsky
New York, New York (1977) .... Jimmy Doyle

My favorite Bobby roles are King of Comedy, Angel Heart, Cape Fear, This Boy's Life.
Favorite Al Pacino flicks:

The Merchant of Venice (2004) .... Shylock
Insomnia (2002) .... Detective Will Dormer
The Insider (1999) .... Lowell Bergman
The Devil's Advocate (1997) .... John Milton
Heat (1995) .... Lt. Vincent Hanna
Scent of a Woman (1992) .... Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade
Frankie and Johnny (1991) .... Johnny
Sea of Love (1989) .... Det. Frank Keller
Cruising (1980) .... Steve Burns
...And Justice for All (1979) .... Arthur Kirkland
Dog Day Afternoon (1975) .... Sonny Wortzik

Scent of A Woman was my all time Pacino masterpiece, but loved Sea of Love too.
Randy's Official Opinions:
This is the best I can do, sorta hard to see.

Plan on getting it re-touched, its fading a bit.

09-27-2005, 08:35 PM
Alright it took me long enough

Name: Derek Ambrosino
Age: 25
Location: Queens NYC, Jackson Heights to be exact
Occupation: work for (gulp) MLB.

First let me say that I am very impressed with the clarity, maturity and knowledge many of the younger users represent themselves. I was shocked to learn how many of these articulate and thoughtful posters were several years my junior.

Anyway, let me run through some things quickly. I've been interested in baseball my entire life and I've been argumentative since the womb. So naturally, I responded to my father's Yankee fanatisicsm by becoming a rabid Met fan. He passed away a few months before the Subway Series in 2000. When I was 6 I got a videotape called the "1986 Mets, A Year To Remember" and memorized it verbatim within a month.

Currently, I live with my girlfirend who is as addicted to the Mets as I am. We go to as many games as we can, especially b/c we have passes that let us in for free (MLB employees). Oh and guys, she has a Mets logo tatooed on a part of her body that would be unrecognizably pixelated if shown on television...lucky me!

Throughout my academic career I excelled, but by the time high school came around I was more interested in "extracuricular activites" I didn't play on the team senior year b/c I woke up to hungover to remember to bring my glove to tryouts. I would goof around but then ace the big test and I felt that was okay. By senior year I had practically dropped out of high school, but I figured I'd ace the SATs and be fine. Well half the plan worked, I scored in the upper 1400's but combined with my average in the low 70's, the composite was a smart guy who didn't care. This attitude continued through the beginning of college. I dropped out and even had some incidents with the law.

At some point I just decided I wanted to be a different person. I re-applied and plowed through school. I completed my undergraduate studies and then went to grad school. I finished my MA in one calendar year with a 4.0. Unfortunately, I am a political radical who detests corporate America so the paper won't translate into big money. That's fine with me though.

I plan to complete a PHD and want to teach sociology through the lens of sports.

I am a student of urban culture, I love the good old hip-hop and wish the trains were still graffiti covered. Disney destroyed 42nd Street. I miss the NYC of the eighties, soccer moms from the suburbs are supposed to be scared here!

Some random stuff:

Other team affiliations: NY Knicks, NY Giants

Favorite reading material: The Onion

People I admire (all over the place here) GEORGE CARLIN, Karl Marx, Michael Parenti, Arundhati Roy, Carl Jung, DaVinci, Fidel Castro, Nelson Mandela, Rakim, Billy Joel, Bill Mahr, Michael Eric Dyson, Malcolm X, PJ O'Rourke (one for the other guys), Jackie Robinson, Robert Anton Wilson, Bruce Lee, those who started the Stonewall Riots, Barbara Ehrenrich, George Orwell, Leo Mazzone, Jerry Rice... so many more.

Favorite athletes (present): Pedro, David Wright, Manny, Phat Albert, Allen Iverson, Andrei Kirilenko, Lebron James, LT2, Tiki Barber, Randy Moss

Favorite athletes (retired): Doctor K, Patrick Ewing, Bob Gibson, Larry Bird, Pistol Pete, Larry Nance, David Thompson, Lawrence Taylor, Mark Messier, Jerry Rice, Wayne Gretsky

Oh, and for what its worth I can drink your weight in beer.
Bill to Derek:
Surprised your most admired folks omitted Gandi, Nelson Mandella, John Maynard Keynes and John Kenneth Galbraith.

09-30-2005, 10:42 AM
Hi everyone. I'm a new member who only joined a few days ago. I don't have the time to present a huge summary of my life, but will tell you a little bit about myself...

I'm 34, a Libra, and grew up a huge Red Sox fan in Boston. I am of Irish, Italian, Scottish, and Seminole descent. I moved to Indianapolis with my girlfriend a while ago, and am slowly getting used to a huge cultural gulf. I have no kids. I enjoy reading about sabermetrics and Bill James' writings, but i admit sometimes being baffled by some statistics, perhaps because I am a very right brained person. I am a distant relation to both Don Sutton and Hugh " Losing pitcher" MFEMFEM: so you can tell I'm a fairly complicated person just from that! I am also related to John Boyle O'Reilly, a 19th century Irish patriot, poet, publisher, orator, and social activist who was quite famous in his time. I hold a master's degree in English. My thesis was on defending Tolkien from the hostile assertions of Edmund Wilson. My favorite authors include Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, Aristophanes, Gogol, Dostoevsky, Shakespeare, Bob Kaufman, Frederick Douglass, H.P. Lovecraft( though I think he's a total jerk),Hawthorne, Poe, and many others.

Favorite players growing up - Bernie Carbo, Oscar Gamble, George Scott, Bill Lee: basically anyone a little offbeat. I enjoy talking about 19th century baseball, and relatively obscure/forgotten guys like the early 20's Browns. I tend to stay away from discussing the obvious choices like Ruth, Cobb, Mays, etc. i have a huge sympathy for underdogs in both baseball and life in general. Politically, i am quite left of center...I most admire MLK, Lincoln, John Lennon, Dylan, Mother Teresa, and Jesus.

Musically, I enjoy some classical and jazz music, but my biggest interest/ passion is rock music from , say, 1966-1971. I feel that that was the greatest period in rock history. In addition to the bands that everyone's heard of, I am a huge fan of the following groups/ artists:The Move, Moby Grape, Love, Spooky Tooth, Blue Cheer, The Pretty Things, Tim Hardin, Tim Buckley,The Idle Race, The N.Y. Rock Ensemble,The James Gang, and almost everyone from that era.

First game attended was the penultimate game of the 1978 season. I think Tiant beat the Blue Jays to force the one game playoff, but my memory could be faulty there. I also saw the 4th game of the '86 Series in person, Gaetti's 2 triple play game in either 1990 or 1991, and about 75 Red Sox games in all. My biggest baseball regret is leaving early on the day that Yaz got his 3,000th hit.
Bill to Oscar,

Welcome aboard, good friend. Sounds as if you'd be very politically comfortable with ElHalo (post 14) and Derek (post 97). Good, healthy, left-of-center, socialist values.

Surprised your most admired folks omitted Gandi, Nelson Mandella, John Maynard Keynes and John Kenneth Galbraith.
first paragraph regarding parents: not particularly growing up. had as many problems with parents/ authority etc as many kids do, but i always respected them. as i get older they become more heroic each day.

pet peeves- got all day? well, the following things get on my nerves-

jackson browne (and yuppie music like that) awful bowl cut, whining voice, overly sensitive lyrics. plus he got a free ride from the music critics since day one.
hard core republicans. especially the blueblood types that live in fantasyland. this war which i don't agree with. automatic flag wavers, and the people who voted for and idealize bush without even thinking about it..especially people who are soooooooooo ******* stupid they think that this blueblood aristocrat is just " one of them."

limp bizkit and that type of music. most modern rock-exceptions: radiohead, afghan whigs, white stripes at times. fred durst is the anti-christ. how anyone can't see how huge the gap is between awesome real musicians ( hendrix, beatles, cream, miles davis, roland kirk, just for starters are in comparison to most of these durst types are is utterly astounding.

the reverend ian paisley.
john davidson from that's incredible, etc.
dennis quaid and kurt russell- hacks.
any reality show you can think of. especially the ones where the kids say to the camera "kirsten wounded my inner child" or some b.s. like that.
chicago, jethro tull, the moody blues, and santana for peaking early, being great for a while- and then producing relatively little of any worth since about 1971.
the guy who replaced barbarino in the sweathogs.
predictable people with predictable views. racists, demagogues, preachy people, people who give you unsolicited advice ,squares, and sheep. people who fail to see the dignity and sanctity of the poor, who scorn the homeless, who pretend they don't see wrongs in society, etc and then have the gall and HYPOCRISY to say how much they love Jesus.

karim garcia who is a thug and was a marginal baseball player to boot, and jeff nelson who is a fascist brownshirt anyway.
i am pretty shy- one of those people that takes a while to open up. not real shy though. that was more of a rant than it perhaps should've been.

more useless facts about me:

favorite colors- blue, red, and purple

favorite foods- italian, chinese, oranges, chicken dishes of any kind. i like to drink lemonade, coffee, or strawberry shakes.

playing baseball growing up- AWFUL at first. through hard work i became a good fielder, but always a bad hitter- didn't strike out too much but chased pitches out of the strike zone. righthanded, no power, i'm quite short , 5'5, and only weighed 118 pounds by the time i got out of school. very surprising - i come from a family of noted athletes- 2 relatives, albeit distant ones, played in the majors, and a closer relative got a tryout with the red sox in the mid 60's. hit the ball nevertheless, due to superb vision, but bad plate judgment and lots of groundouts and foul outs. if sabermetricians had seen me they would've berated my little league OBP and OPS!

FAVORITE MOVIES/ shows- lots of 'em...godfather 1 and 2, lord of the rings series, M, goodfellas, silent films such as- nosferatu, phantom of the opera ( the lon chaney one), battleship potemkin, and the 1927 film about napoleon, la dolce vita, metropolis, joe, david lean's films, citizen kane, boys in the hood, shaft, the unforgiven and other eastwood flicks, the usual suspects, chaplin films, planet of the apes films (for heavy handedness and unintentional hilarity), salem's lot, blazing saddles, cool hand luke, i'm gonna get you sucka!, young frankenstein, the producers, monty python's holy grail and ALL of their stuff, blacula, i claudius miniseries, some hitchcock films, mean streets, shawshank redemption, 12 angry men, the man who would be king, family guy, simpsons, sports/film/music/history documentaries, sleuth, jaws, salesman ( a documentary, not death of a salesman) the rocky and bullwinkle shows etc. etc.... i thought the ken burns baseball series was flawed but ok, he did a better job with jazz and the civil war.
Mordeci added this:
Looks like you and I could trade DVD collections and barely notice any difference. About the only things that you mentioned that I don't own are I, Claudius and Battleship Potemkin, both of which I've come very, very close to buying in the past. I may buy Potemkin and Alexander Nevsky next week and have my own private Sergei Einstein film festival.
KHenry14 added this:
Go and get "I, Claudius" today. A truly wonderful spectacle, with a delicious turn by a young Patrick Stewart as Serjanus...a must have!

Ytown Tribe fan
10-01-2005, 10:07 AM
(Originally began posting on the old baseball-almanac forum way back when.)

My dad was born in western PA and started following the Tribe when Bob Feller was a rookie, listening to the great Jack Graney call the games on the radio.

My first game was in the early '60s, when Dick Howser was a youg shortstop and Rocky Colavito was already a Tiger. So I became a fan of a cursed franchise, like so many other fans here. Luckily, my dad took me to Pirates games as well, including the first game at Three Rivers Stadium. Highlights: the return of Rocky Colavito, the '71 Pirates, my favorite player: Manny Sanguillen.

Moved to the SF Bay Area in high school, just after Mays, Marichal and McCovey departed; boy those were some lean years for Giants fans. Highlight: Johnnie Lemaster's first plate appearance, an inside-the-park home run. Johnnie should've kept on running right then, right out of the ballpark. Favorite players: The Count and Johnny D'Acquisto.

After an enlistment in the Air Force, moved to the Kansas City area, and enjoyed a decade of fine baseball, starting in the early '80s, and got married as well. Highlights: '85 Royals, watching my favorite player ever, George Brett and, oh yeah, getting married. Not necessarily in that order.

Moved back to Ytown 10 years ago, right when the Tribe was something to see again, thanks to Mr Dick Jacobs. Still married after all there years, and with two sons who like to see the Scrappers, although the teenager is a Pirates fan. Rebellion -- gotta love it.

Highlights: watching Albert Belle do in '95 what David Ortiz is doing now. Watching a young team grow up before my eyes this year and make a great run for it before my very eyes. Watching my boys grow up (righty shortstop and lefty in the 'pen). Seeing Frank Zappa in '73, '75 and '77. Trying to get Link Wray inducte ito the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Trying to get Minnie Minoso into the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Annie to Ytown Tribe Fan:
I just want to say Welcome Back to Ytown Tribe Fan, who was here when I joined up in '01, and whom I haven't seen around these parts for a couple of years. It's good to see an old familiar name come back and rejoin the crowd. :waving
Catcher24 to Ytown Tribe Fan:
Ytown Tribe Fan: Where in Western PA were you from originally? I was born and raised in Jamestown, NY, so I'm somewhat familiar with Western PA. My dad took me to Cleveland and Pittsburgh both, too. Hence, I am also a long-suffering Tribe fan ('97 still hurts ). I see you attended the first game at Three Rivers. Did you get to any at Forbes before it was gone? PM me if you don't want to answer on the thread.

Thanks for the post!

10-09-2005, 08:04 AM
Bill, I may have to revisit at a later date and go into more detail. I admit at this time I just don't have the patience to sit here and list as much of myself as some others have. But I promised I would make my mark in a week or so, that was a week ago so, here it is.

Born and raised in Buffalo, New York. Date of birth 1945.
Raised on a farm the first 11 years of my life, a real farm where the homes were long distances apart. I fell for this great game of baseball while living on that farm. The first time I saw a baseball, when a visiting uncle hit me some fly balls, I was about 7 years old. All I know is it was love at first sight. knew nothing about the game but just hitting that ball, swinging the bat, chasing down balls, what a great game. Unfortunately neighbors, kids were not living close in the country, who do I play with. I loved the game so much, when my dad was not around, at work I would just hit the ball, run and pick it up, hit it again, for hours. What a great game I thought.

Moved to the city in the early 1950s, Buffalo N.Y. Graduated from high school attended Syacuse University for two years.

Drafted at the age of 22. Had it made in the service for the first 14 months. Was sent to Guided Missile school, Huntsville Ala. Just like being a civilian while there, no KP, no guard duty, go home at the end of the day. I was married and lived off post. after 14 months I was sent to Fort Lewis and then I realized I was in the army, KP and field trips.

I do have one son living in Seattle.

Baseball, midget league and American Legion and Muny League in Buffalo.

TV, kind of a TV drop out, close to it. Love the History Channel, Learning Channel, Discovery and a few weekly series.

Favorite team, might have inherited this from my dad, The Yankees.
Favorite player, probably already known to most here, Babe Ruth.
Certainly admire a good number of other greats, Hornsby, Cobb, Mathewson, Williams, Dimaggio, Aaron.. too many to mention.

One of my biggest thrills related to the game.I read in the news that a 3 day seminar dealing with Babe Ruth was to take place at Hofstra University this was in 1995. Just for the heck of it I sent some little known facts about Ruth the university. To my surprise a week later I was sent an invitation to attend that seminar. I had to go, what fun. At that seminar was Bob Feller, Ralph Kiner, Harmon Killebrew, Robin Roberts, William Jenkinson one of the best baseball historian. At the end I got to meet James Shuart president of Hofstra and was informed that my paper work was placed in the Hofstra Archives

At this time I am retired, work a part time job. Do it for a few bucks and also to keep busy, I still get up about 6:00 AM every day.

Surprised at the ages of some on this board, so young. Many of them had me fooled with their knowledge of the game, I thought they were older, thse kids know their stuff.

At this time I spend loads of time at a spot I love the most. A spot you turned me on to, thanks Bill, those news archives at ProQuest, what a wealth of history, can't get enough of it.

Thats all for now, back to the geame, that great game.
Randy to Joe:Thats so friekin' cool man, nice goin' ;) :clapping
On the farm, that was way back, we did know our neighbors quite well. Even though you might find homes on average to be around a quarter or half mile apart, farm folks were laid back, always willing to help their neighbors. I did visit the road I lived on many years later and it no longer looks like farm country, homes on top of homes, little space between the houses.

Syracuse U. great memories, you know, when your younger, less cares fun times, the college life. I don't read that much only because I lack the patience. One book I did read completely "The Naked Ape" deals with the human race, why we do some of the things we do. Two guys I find very interesting, Winston Churchill and Ben Franklin, Ben was a very intelligent man, to say the least.

My name is Joe and actually my original screen name was BABYRUTH0, which I still have but do not use often.

Just to touch on my first game, MLB game that I saw was in the ealy 1950s. My dad took me to Cleveland to see the Indians and the Red Sox. In those days there were many excursions to Cleveland from Buffalo, at times 8 or 10 bus loads, usually to see the Yanks. On that day seeing the Red Sox, it was probably second to seeing God. Walked up the runway my first big league game and there he was shagging flys, Ted Williams, never forget that. There were very few games on TV back then and that was black and white. This was in living color and it was Ted Williams, seems like just yesterday.
Lew to Joe:
Shoelessjoe3: All right, another Fever member from my own Western New York. I was born and raised in Jamestown. Man after my own heart as far as TV - if it isn't baseball, the History Channel, Discovery Channel, I usually don't bother. Nice post - thanks!:waving
Joe to Lew:
OK then when I did live in the country, late 1940s early 50s I was not very far from you.You are probably familiar with Eden N.Y. Right next to North Collins. Jamestown, isn't that the birth place of Lucille Ball. Did you ever get to North Collins and do you remember Speedys, I believe it's still going.
Lew to Joe:
Yes, Jamestown is the home of Lucille Ball. Well, we take the credit anyway. She was actually born in a small village (Celoron) that adjoins Jamestown. My mom knew her somewhat, but knew her brother Fred much better (Lucy was older, Fred closer to mom's age). I am familiar with North Collins; that's where they have (or did have) the pumpkin weigh in every fall. Don't remember a Speedy's; do remember a very good restaurant at the intersection of Rts. 62 & 39, but can't remember the name. I think that was the same place they had the pumpkin weigh in, if I remember right. Took a few people from this county to the facility at Collins when it was still a state facility.

Also familiar with Eden. That's where they have the corn festival, where the kazoos are made, and where the funeral home with the most appropriate name ever (Wentland) are!

Thanks for the reply!
Joe posted an addenum:
Well I did post a brief bio here some months ago but I thought I might share a little story about my first trip to a MLB game. I was very young maybe 9 or 10 years old in the early to mid 1950s. At that time all games were in black and white and maybe one game a week shown. There were excursions from Buffalo N.Y. to Cleveland the closest MLB team to Buffalo. By train, hundreds of fans from Buffalo, excursions were mostly always when the Yanks were in Cleveland.

On this trip it was the Red Sox we went to see. I was amazed, never saw a baseball stadium in color, only black and white TV. What a sight, the grass was the most intense green color and batting practice was taking place watching that bright white ball against the background of the stands.

Than it happened. There he was, my dad said "thats Ted Williams" he was shagging balls in the outfield. Maybe seeing God might have topped this but in this case it was the next best sight, number 9 standing feet away from us. All I remember was Ted hitting a long high home run into the upper deck and amazed at how smooth his swing was. Appeared to put no effort into his swing but the ball than disappeared into a sea of spectators.

We did go to a few more games to see the Yanks in Cleveland, would have loved to have seen Dimaggio in the flesh but he was retired. I do recall watching Yankee Eddie Lopat known as the "junk man" pitching a low hit game against the Indians. I couldn't believe it, Eddie appeared to be just playing catch with the catcher the Indian batters couldn't touch him. He seemed to throw so slow I was sure even as a 12 year old I could hit him.

Closing, I was a country kid from Eden N.Y with a population of maybe 1000 people and here I was in a ball park watching the Indians and Yanks with 60,000 plus people what a sight. Some of the greatest memories I have as a young boy are connected to this great game.
I wish I had more to offer but am not even sure of the year, early to mid 1950s. At that time I was 6 to 9 years old. I only remember it was in Cleveland on a Sunday probably a double header. Don't recall the score or even who won the game or games. Could have been as early as 1951, not likely 1952 or 1953 , Ted played less than 50 games total over those two seasons.

Thank you for the offer to help, wish I could supply more info.

One other little tale, a game my dad took me to in Detroit to see the Yanks. I believe 1954 or 1955. Tiger Earl Torgeson steals home in the bottom of the 9th to beat the Yanks.

We had great seats right behind the Yankee dugout and what a sight we saw. Yankee manager Casey Stengel running out of the dugout yelling at the Yankee pitcher as Torgeson broke for home. It seemed like every one in the park was aware of Torgeson going for it... except the Yankee pitcher who did not pitch from the stretch but went from a full wind up. I think it was Bob Turley.

10-16-2005, 04:51 PM
Wow William I think you must be the first person in the history of the US to have Jimmy Carter and Barry Goldwater on the same Most Admired Americans list.

I have thousands of lists I have kept as well. I enjoy seeing other people's interests and life stories.

Well to introduce myself.

Age: 22

Ethnic background: Mutt like most white Americans. mainly German but I have some Italian and Scotch-Irish blood as well.

Born: Springfield, IL

Occupation: Student and Army Reservist

I was raised in a small and rural central Illinois town by my mother who is a nurse. I really didn't have much to do with my father. He worked for the State of Illinois, coached little league and was a huge Reagan republican. I only saw him on holidays and such. He passed away a few months ago. Just to clarify though I am not one of those Maury Povich kids who cries "Where were you Dad!!" Nothing like that. I enjoyed not growing up with a father. I loved my childhood and I think I would have felt uncomfortable with another parent. I never had any ill will towards my father.....ever. I was sad when he died even though I hardly knew him.

As a youth I played Soccer, Baseball and in 7th grade I started to play football.

I was an excellent soccer player a poor baseball player and an average football player.

In high school I played baseball freshman year. I batted 233 with 3 Home Runs (second most on team) while platooning at third base......I was an awful fielder though....AWFUL. I struck out alot. As a batter I was cast in the Rob Deer mold. I was a switch hitter with home run power from both sides of the plate though. However, the kid I platooned with at third was also a freshman and he was better. He batted like 370 and was a solid fielder. I was more interested in football though so this is the only year I went out. Our record was like 11-14:mad: . We are not a baseball town.

In track (Sophmore, Junior year) I threw the discus. Won some smaller meets but was only average. Longest throw 132 ft.

Football was where I played the most. I was an average player on a team that was supposed to win the state title....we got robbed in the playoff quarterfinals (after outscoring our first two opponents 80-13). I know people always say they were cheated but we seriously were. They were allowed to get two plays off in 6 seconds, their line false started on the final play and their HB pushed in their QB in the last second......AND even with the help he never broke the plain. Thankfully they lost in the title game. I started DT and was the first o-lineman off the bench. No. Im not a large guy. I was 5ft9 and weighed 175. My greatest asset was speed and I was a pretty strong kid (benched like 285). I had the most sacks on our team (11). My sack totals were dependant on the fact that I played next to the best NT in the state who ate up double and triple teams. So all I had to beat was a guard who I was always faster and usually stronger then.

After High School I joined the Army Reserve and attended a small university in Springfield. In the army my best two mile time was like 14:30 and I could and can do 70 pushups in two minutes and 75 or so sit-ups in two minutes. This gives you like a 240 on your PT test at my age. The max is 300 and the smallest amount you can do to pass is 180. Nothing too hard.

I was activated to go into Iraq in 2003. I was sent to Ft. Riley, Kansas but as we were waiting to deploy Baghdad fell and the (lack of forsight) military planners sent us home thinking the war was all over. My unit has been on Homeland Defense orders for the past year and we are scheduled to be activated again in the next few months with the intention of heading overseas. So I may only be here for a few months:ughh.

I am not trying to open up any political debate but contrary to what you might assume given my seemingly anti-french sign off, rural upbringings, Military background and the fact that I mentioned that my father is a Reagan republican...but I do not agree with the Iraq war. I am also a moderate democrat (or as you people may call us nearly extinct) who does not find our presdient (my boss) to be all that competant or great. Again not trying to offend some W supporters or open a political debate. I type at like 7 political forums so this is the last place I want to discuss or argue politics. Despite being aligned with a party I am pretty open minded and I try to never allow partisanship to blind me. Like In our state I intended to vote for former Govenor Jim Edgar (a republican in the centrist mold) instead of the corrupt, job kick-back democrat governor (who admits scoring a 19 on his ACT) in Rod Blagoevich. Edgar decided to pass though. I notice that alot of baseball fans tend to be pretty big republicans and it would ruin the purity of this site to make it political. I have alot of republican friends and family.

My interests include World Politics and World History mainly. I won some social sciences state awards in High School. I have a pretty good bank of knowledge. I could name the presidents frontwards and backwards since the age of 6. I know the capital to every country in the world. I know alot of world leaders and political parties. I know every governor in this country. I could probably name 90% of US senators and 60-70 % of the house. I could name 75% of all the Supreme Court Judges we have ever had. I can tell you anything about the Second Punic War, Greenland and Iceland. I have alot of general knowledge about sports in general and music and movies. I am a potpourri guy. I am not a specialist though in those fields. I know alot of baseball for a common guy but I am sub-par on this site from what I can see. I know alot about movies but I probably dont know as much as say Moviegeek who posts here. I can name two Kursowa movies...Ran and Seven Samurai but he can probably name them all. If information was baseball I would be a solid utility infielder. Alot of info about alot of subjects but I am an expert in very few. I am servicable.

My sports interest and baseball interest sprang on its own. As I said I was raised by a single mom. I have no clue why I liked sports that much. I was watching Sportscenter at 6 like religiously. I just liked numbers I think and the aspects of stats. Not just playing stats but heighth and weight and all of that. I collected thousands of sports cards and I was alone. My passion was created entirely within me. My dad was a sports nut so maybe it was just genetic and not environment.

Favorite Baseball Players.

Tony Gwynn, Craig Biggio, Barry Bonds, Wade Boggs, Cal Ripkin Jr, Mark Grace, Tom Pagnozzi, Shawn Dunston, Jody Davis, Ozzie Smith, Tommy Herr, Willie Mcgee, Jack Clark, Pedro Guerrero, Eric Davis, Ron Gant, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine. Names reflective of living in an area with alot of love for the Cards and Cubs. Old Time players I had an obsession with... Jimmie Foxx, Harry Heilmann, Hal Trosky, Dom Dimaggio, Dolph Camilli, Gabby Hartnett, Norm Cash, Dick Allen, Bobby Bonds, George Foster, Ralph Kiner, Hank Greenberg, Ted Kluszewski, Joe Adcock..... Just something about their stats or name or something that always made them click with me.

Favorite All-Time athletes.
Barry Sanders
Marcel Dionne
Mike Singletery
Pat Lefontaine
Steve Largent (despite being a republican:) )
Greg lloyd
Bam Morris
Sam Mills
Roy Jones Jr
Archie Moore
Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson
Michael Jordan
Steve Kerr
Gary Payton
Isiah Thomas
Bernard King

To name a few.

Favorite fiction Books in no order because I cannot find my list:mad:
Cat's Cradle.....Vonnegut
Franny and Zooey....Salinger
Atlas Shrugged....Ayn Rand.....I have some Libertarian streaks
Friday Night Lights....Cannot remember author
Slaughterhouse 5....Vonnegut
The Sirens of Titan....Vonnegut
Brother Termite...cannot remember author
The Mysterious Stranger...Mark Twain short story
The Day of the Locust...Nathaniel West
1984 ....Orwell
Fahrenheit 451.... Bradbury
Less then Zero....Bret Easton Ellis
American Psycho...Bret Easton Ellis
The Rules of Attraction....Bret Easton Ellis
Primary Colors...Anonymous
Fight Club....Chuck Palahniuk (murdered that spelling I think)
Haunted......Chuck Palahniuk
Valis.....Phillip K Dick
A Scanner Darkly....Phillip K Dick
Ubik......Phillip K Dick
Man in a High Castle.... PKD again

I tend to like Sci-fi and social commentary and satire in my fiction.

I read mainly biographies and non-fiction books. To many to list. I own 500 plus books and alot of my favorites that are non-fiction do not follow a linear plotline. So you end up reading it in a fragmented way. I have favorite non-fiction books that I havent even read completely. Its hard to rate factual books. Its like saying I like my heighth more then my weight.

Favorite 26 Bands and or singers.

1) Tool
2) The Doors
3) The police
4) Peter Gabriel
5) Simon and Garfunkel
6) The Cure
7) Talking Heads
8) Nirvana
9) Fleetwood mack
10) Blue Oyster Cult
11) Pearl Jam
12) NIN
13) Bjork
14) Opeth
15) Tricky
16) Jimi Hendrix
17) Depeche Mode
18) A Perect Circle
19) David Bowie
20) Portishead
21) Staind
22) Radiohead
23) Massive Attack
24) System of a Down
25) Primus
26) Pink Floyd

Top 5 Soundtracks
1) Solaris (newer US version not the old Soviet flick)
2) Gattaca
3) Williams Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet
4) Exacaliber
5) Glory

Top 51 favorite movies. I have a list to 500.:hp I love lists.

AND the all-Time Cliche number 1...

1) Shawshank Redemption....Should I lie to myself to be unique??
2) The Elephant Man...Not usually a Lynch fan...This is his most conventional
3) Apocalypse now
4) Network.......Note the rend of me liking Robert Duvall
5) Hoosiers.....Im not a critic....you will not see a Citizen Kane, Battleship Potemkin or Casablanca on my lists.
6) Glory
7) Field of Dreams
8) Fight Club
9) American History X
10) Altered States
11) To Kill a Mockingbird
12) Buffalo 66
13) 12 Monkeys
14) Time Machine (1960's version)
15) Badlands
16) Boys From Brazil
17) The Hustler
18) The Ice Storm
19) Cool Hand Luke
20) Gattaca
21) Planes. Trains and Automobiles
22) Bringing Out the Dead
23) Leaving Las Vegas
24) Groundhog's Day
25) Donnie Darko
26) Barry Lyndon
27) Henry Portrait of a Seriel Killer
28) Igby Goes Down
29) The Deer Hunter
30) Sex, Lies and Videotape
31) Election
32) Office Space
33) Ben Hur (60's version not the 20's version)
34) Spartacus
35) Dead Poets Society
36) Lolita (90's version not the Kubrick 60's version)
37) The Virgin Suicides
38) The Fog of War (documentary but o'well)
39) Dolirs Claiborne
40) the Big Lebowski
41) Donnie Brasco
42) Braveheart
43) Crumb (another Documentary)
44) Memento
45) Amelie
46) Big Fish
47) Omega Man
48) Silence of the Lambs
49) Rushmore
50) Rear Window
51) Personna

Top 10 actors
1) Gregory Peck
2) Robert Duvall
3) Edward Norton
4) Al Pacino
5) Meryl Streep
6) Michael Sheen
7) Anthony Hopkins
8) Bill Murray
9) Morgan Freeman
10) Faye Dunaway

Top 10 most attractive women
1) Famke Janssen
2) Audrey Tautou
3) Bridget Moynihan
4) Lucy Liu
5) Demi Moore
6) Franka Potenta
7) China Chow
8) Halle Berry
9) Kim Delaney
10) Monica Bellucci/Carrie-Ann Moss.

As you may tell I am high on dark haired women.

Like I said I have thousands of lists on everything from cereal to fast food, video games, soda, animals, Porn Stars anything. I am compulsive about it.

To cap it off I will name my favortie sport teams in each sport

1) Giants
2) Cubs
3) Tigers
4) Cardinals
5) Pirates

Rarely do you see somebody from where I am from say they like both the Cubs AND Cardinals

1) Steelers
2) Lions
3) Bears
4) Bengals
5) Bills

2) Blackhawks
3) Blues
4) Sabres
5) Flames

1) Bulls...we are getting better:clapping ....lost Curry though:mad:
2) Seattle Supersonics
3) Boston Celtics
4) Sacramento Kings
5) Dallas Mavericks

Small tidbits about me. I am allegedly related to both Daniel Boone and William Jennings Bryan. Bryan is best known for being the loser in the 1896, 1900 and 1904 US presidential elections and for advocating overturning the Gold Standard in our currency to silver and for the Scopes Monkey Trial (creationism versus evolution) of 1925. I find it funny because I could not be at greater political odds with a politician.

I have never been baptized but have attended Lutheran and Methodist churches. I have also been an agnostic and a Deist. I dont know what I am anymore. I said I was Coptic Christian on some military papers just for the heck of it. My father was Catholic.

My eyes are slightly different colored. Heterochromia Iridium is what I have I think. The pigmentation content of my eyes shift.

My hands are extremely limber and flexible. I can bend and contort them in alot of ways without much pain.

I have difficulty noticing hue differences in certain shades of colors like green and blue and orange and red and purple and black. My color spectrum is not very wide.

I kicked a 42 yard field goal once.

I have a cat named Cincinnatus

I love Roman names

I only have three baseball autographs.....Derrick May, Kevin Roberson and Bernard Gilkey......quite a valuable collection;) if I say so myself.
His Official Opinions:
West Coast Orange and Black complimented Pretorious:

why i dig pretorius:
"I do not agree with the Iraq war
Barry Bonds
Jack Clark
his book and film preferences
a 42 yard field goal"

why i am worried for pretorious:
"I was activated to go into Iraq in 2003... the military planners sent us home thinking the war was all over... we are scheduled to be activated again in the next few months with the intention of heading overseas."

10-18-2005, 08:46 PM
Here goes:

Born in 1950 in South Boston, MA and lived north of the city for 25 years. Graduated from Somerville HS, have a BA and MEd from UMass. My mom died when I was very young, and my dad walked with a limp due to a childhood accident. My dad raised me by himself and had a hard life. His friend was an AP photographer so we got great seats to watch Cousy, Russell, Havlicek, Ted W. and the Red Sox, and the Boston Bruins. I'll never forget Orr as an 18-yr old rookie dominating grown men on the ice, or the incredible teamwork of the Celtics, or Ted hitting two home runs in a game.

I never touched a baseball until 11 when I tried out for little league. I played RF for two years and we won the City Championship. Pitched a one-hitter in my only start. One of my biggest mistakes in life was quitting HS baseball because my friends quit. I'm a lefty and had a curve and sinker I could control. My nickname here is in honor of TonyC. I played some HS basketball and ran the 600 yard dash in indoor track. I was the type that was ok at most shorter distances, but never great at one.

I played fast pitch softball in the Marines and played it for a few years afterward. My work career includes the US Post Office, teaching in Elementary & Jr. Highs, Sales and Customer Service. I currently work with customers from Australia and Asia.

My favorite musicians are Van Morrison, the Eagles, George Winston, the Greatful Dead, Pink Floyd, James Taylor, Bonnie Raitt and Springsteen.

I like the Neft & Cohen Almanac that breaks down every season into teams and the entire roster of each and their stats. I have too many baseball books to list, but this website turned me on to Walter Johnson's biography recently. I co-authored a baseball biography and am working on a local baseball history right now. Having a job and raising a 19-yr old and a 14-yr old keep interfering with my writing time.

My daughter played HS volleyball and ran track. Watching her win the 100 meter dash in Jr. High at an Invitational was a moment I'll always treasure. She was never big on playing on teams, and sports were not her favorite thing. My son plays HS soccer and will soon tryout for basketball and baseball. He played 6 positions last year on the school baseball team so defense is his strength, and hitting is what he needs to work on. I coached my kids in baseball and softball for nine years and their teams never had a losing record. My son's team in his final season won the LL championship in the 9th inning after coming from behind twice in extra innings. He had a no-hitter until 2 outs in the 6th inning.

I was at the 1975 WS Game 6 in Fenway. I stood in line at night for several hours to get tickets and had to decide whether to get Games 1 & 7, or Games 2 & 6. I figured it might not go all 7 games so I took Games 2 & 6. The experience after Fisk's HR was similar to having a child...you have so much energy and adrenalin.

Thanks for the work you put into making this an interesting site.

I co-authored a book called The Legend of Wild Bill Setley several years ago. It was about the colorful career of a eccentric minor league baseball pitcher who defied authority back in the 1890's. Later on in his life he became a minor league umpire and police detective. The story kept growing once we discovered he had a 30-year career in baseball and was a famous storyteller.

I am working on another book plus a research project on the Cuban Giants. I seemed to be drawn to the 1890's era in America and love that period of time.

My grandson will begin his baseball "career" next summer when he starts tee ball. He throws and writes with both hands so maybe we will have another lefty in the family? My son played high school varsity baseball, and then declined a chance to play college soccer at a flagship state school when a better offer came along from a private college. So he turned to rugby, and now I attend his club games trying to learn the rules little by little. I breathe a sigh of relief every time he gets up from the bottom of a pile of players without being injured. We have our own family rivalry as he is a Yankees fan and I'm a Red Sox fan.

10-28-2005, 10:54 PM
i thought the ken burns baseball series was flawed but ok, he did a better job with jazz and the civil war.
Jazz was very incomplete. Baseball was fine. Civil War was the best.
Wamby to Dave Garza:
I thought Civil War was excellent. I thought Baseball stunk. It should have been titled Race and Baseball. Some of Ken Burn's other stuff has been good, but I think he is a little heavy-handed where race is concerned.
Four Tool chimes in with this:
Civil War was great, despite some weaknesses. I gave up on Baseball long before the end. Jazz left something to be desired--but just about anything on that subject would.
Lew Snyder adds this.
Agree 100%. I enjoyed the Civil War series immensely, and was really looking forward to Baseball. What was done to the black players wasn't right - I think everyone on this site agrees - but Burns played on that theme far too much, to the detriment of the entire series, IMHO. My wife bought me the book several years ago, and I haven't even looked at it yet.
Captain Cold Nose:

ask him what it was like to be a bloomer girl
:laugh :crazy

As a baseball man and history fan, I will once again attempt to find Eddie Plank's grave in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania while I visit there this weekend. I was able to obtain the coordinates from another site, but the large, still-in-use cemetery isn't very well marked in spots. There are Planks in several locations.
Which site did you get the coordinates from? Geocaching.com or Waymarking.com by any chance? Have you seen The Baseball Necrology by Bill Lee? Probably wouldn't help you, since you already know the cemetery, but sounds like an interesting and useful book. Good luck with your search! Perhaps the local library would have the location, or know a fan who does.
Captain Cold Nose:
Findagrave.com is the site I use. I've never used the two you mentioned. I'll check them out. Thanks.
Asking around is a good suggestion. The cemetery is part of the national park, it is connected to the veteran's cemetery that Lincoln dedicated. (The reason for the Gettysburg Address.) In his post-baseball career, Plank was a battlefield guide working for the park, so they may have that information. Thanks again.
Captain Cold Nose:
Interesting piece of info, Captain! I'm also going to check out the site you use. The ones I mentioned are more for geocaching (a hobby of mine; baseball is a necessity!). My wife has been wanting to go to Gettysburg for quite some time. If you find it this trip, PM me please. I would be very interested in seeing it myself when I get down there.

Trust me, go to Gettysburg. No Civil War site comes close, although I will admit I've never visited any Deep South sites. I leave friday morning, so hopefully I'll have some results when I return.
Gettysburg is a wonderful place--but because of the encroachments of businesses and tourist traps, in some ways I prefer some of the southern sites which don't have those problems to the same degree. The only two of note I have yet to see are Mobile Bay and Pittsburgh Landing in Western Tennessee. Do a little reading before you go to any of the battlefields--almost every major battlefield has a magazine length piece on it (I think by the Civil War Times, but in any event some such outfit) that shouldn't be too taxing yet will enrich the experience many fold. You can then combine what you've read with the refresher from the show at the visitor center and combine all that with the markers at key points. When I was a kid, I dragged my family to the battlefields, but because I did enough reading about the Civil War, I could make them see at least a part of what I was seeing on those visits. After a while, they started to ask if there were any battlefields we should see.
Captain Cold Nose:
The one thing I like about Gettysburg is, despite the touristy stuff outside the park, the actual park is doing a really nice job of maintaining the intergrity of the battlefield, right down to the trees, removing any speices not in Pennsylvania in 1863. You look at cities like Nashville and Richmond, and a lot of what happened in those areas has been paved over.
It's good advice to check out what you're visiting before you visit it. For one, in sites that are really spread out, like Fredericksburg/Spotsylvania, chances are you'll miss something if you don't have a plan. Or you'll know what to expect if your only experience is with the grander sites and you come across a place, like Antietam, that, while grand in stature, may not seem like so much for the ill-informed.

When I was a kid I went to a lot of those sites without really reading up on them beyond what was listed in my parents' AAA book. I am glad to visit the sites as an informed adult and thankful we still have them.
Captain Cold Nose:
The first time I visited was shortly before they tore the tower down. And you have that right about the feeling you get. Being on the battlefield at dawn and watching the sun go down over South Mountain are both musts and major parts of the experience.
The town seems to be pretty split in its allegiance to either the Pirates or Phillies. Actually, I've seen quite a few Oriole caps around town, too.
Jim - Strange you mention the Civil War Times. In my teens-early twenties, I became quite interested in the Civil War, and actually subscribed to that magazine for a few years. The first game I ever bought with my own money (paper route) was Battle Cry, a Civil War game by American Heritage, and I think out out by Milton Bradley Co. Sorry to say I have never been to any of the major battlefields of that conflict. I did have a great-grandfather who was a lieutenant in the 112th New York, from western New York.
I remember that game. Not on a par with today's more complex sims, but interesting. I think some of those magazines can be found at the bookstores of the battlefield Visitor's Centers (my wife expects me to come home with books if we visit a battlefield), but I mentioned them more because they are reasonable histories but not too long--which is ideal for most folks. If you're into history, there's nothing like seeing the ground on which battles were fought. It really helps put it all into perspective. My personal greatest yen is to one day visit the beaches of Normandy (D-Day).

I have a great-great (and maybe one more great) grandfather who served in one of the Pennsylvania outfits, Isaac Albright IIRC.
Splendid Splinter:
Gettyburg is the best place ever to go to if you want to learn or see something from the Civil War... I mean... I got to go to the same battlefield that my great-great-great grandpa died on. He fought on the north side (he was on the famous "Pickett's Last Charge" and his brother died there too. His brother fought the south so they fought each other (seriously... that is not right at all). When I was there, my feelings were out of this world because of the history and my family. I can't explain it in words...
Captain Cold Nose:
Those who have stepped foot on the battlefield, whether they had ancestors fighting there or not, understand. Mr. Albright, I know people who were born well after the Normandy Invasion who were brought to tears walking around Omaha Beach. It has to be one of the most intense places in the world in terms of bringing up emotions.
Those with a sense of history should. I believe what you say about Omaha Beach--the pictures alone convey that feeling to me. My own experiences tell me that the pictures rarely convey the full magnitude of the experience, no matter how skilled and knowledgeable the photographer. That's precisely why I want to go there. It may be a wrenching experience, but I do not want to miss seeing one of the most momentous sites in 20th century history. Hiroshima and Auschwitz are other places I want to see, though they too should be highly emotional experiences. Washington D.C.'s Holocaust Museum was quite an experience--but while it has artifacts, it didn't happen there . There's a difference between a museum thousands of miles away or pictures and the actual ground. It's hard to put into words, but I've always felt and understood the history of places like that better once I've been there.

11-04-2005, 11:22 AM
Name: Andy
Born: 6 December 1978

Grew up in: Pittsburgh PA.
College & Degree: Penn State, BS Mathematics

Currently working for a government agency as a statistician. I know, how weird is it that a statistician would be interested in baseball?

Love of my life #1: Music. I love music from the Beatles to Coldplay and everything in between. I can play guitar but not very well, and write songs that aren't very good.

Love of my life #2: Cats. I know it's wussy. I bet you like something wussy, too.

Love of my life #3: Pretty girls in tight clothes. For obvious reasons.

Favorite baseball moment: 2001 World Series, Game 7 - I never thought I'd see the Yankees lose.
Least favorite baseball moment: 1992 NLCS Game 7 - All I wanted was for my hometown team to make the World Series. I didn't care whether they won it. Instead the 1990-92 Pirates were completely forgotten.
Favorite historical players: Gehrig and Clemente

Introduced to baseball at age 9, I started to devour books about baseball history. I forgot about it for a while, until I bought "Politics of Glory" which rekindled my interest in both baseball history and statistics. About two years ago I stumbled across the "Hall of Merit" on Baseball Think Factory, which in turn led me to baseball-fever, which led to baseball history and discussion becoming my main hobby.

History Of Baseball Fan
11-06-2005, 01:36 PM
pitching every regular season game, and playoff game for 5 years straight hurt my shoulder :(

took a few years break from pitching, then went to center field every game. best position to play !!

Bill Burgess
11-16-2005, 04:48 PM

I have been asked a question about how I conduct this thread. And I do admit to deleting posts on this thread. So I would like to talk to you about how I am maintaining this thread.

I started this thread to give us all a venue to express ourselves about ourselves, who we are, what we're about. And Fever, Sean, our webmaster has been unbelievably tolerant of us chatting about non-baseball topics.

When I was made a moderator, this thread had reached 10 pages, with only 2 pages of bios. The rest was bloated with chit-chat, long past relevance.

So I simply went back and sorted through the posts. I tacked some posts of some members to their original bios. Others, I consolidated into topics.

Others, I deleted. The entire point was to keep this thread relevant to Fever members. It's been my experience, that whenever a thread reaches a certain size, it sinks of its own weight. Few have the time/patience to read through the accumulated sundry chit-chat. Or would want to.

My purpose throughout this whole time is to keep this thread a viable, credible, functioning instrument. One where we can learn from each other.

So, if a post of yours suddenly disappears, do not despair. Many did not "disappear", but got reassigned to their original bios. We have 4 topics which contain the input of several members.

Post #59 is labeled "Pet Peeves". Several members contributed to this.
Post #73 & #74 is labeled "Rock Music". Many members contributed to this one.
Post #98 is labeled "TV Character Actors". Several members contributed to this topic.
Post #101 is labeled "Ken Burn's Civil War" documentary.

So, a huge number of posts are not really "gone", merely moved.

I have went back & gone through all the bios, and wanted to notify all the members, whose bios got added to. I attached later posts to these following original biographies.

2. 64Cares-----------27.KHenry14-------54.Wolverineman----84.Deadball2005
2. Julusnc-----------28. Chanceron---- 56.barzilla--------92. Dodger
5. HonusWagnerRules--29. rockin500-----57. Chancellor-----93. Sultan_1895-1948
8. leecemark---------33. JohnnyGhost---61. abolishthedh---94. dgglahhh
9. Imapotato---------35. JW------------63. VTSoxFan-------95. oscargamblesfro
11. PumpsieGreen-----36.Splendid Splinter--67.BristolBoy--96. Ytown Tribe fan
14. ElHalo-----------37. Wamby---------70. janduscframe---97.ShoelessJoe3
15. four tool--------38. West Coast OB-72.WindyCityfan----99. Pretorius
16. Captain Cold Nose-39. Say Hey------75. jalbright-----
18. mordeci----------44. catcher24-----79. Nutmegh----
19. Wagner33---------46. schlabotnik---81.Southlah CubsFan
21. Sirmudgeon-------48. SABR Matt-----82. TyrusRaymondCobb
22. tonjes-----------49. Ize19
26. RuthMayBond

So, I will/do delete/consolidate extraneous posts to these threads. And I also spend a certain amount of time with the spell checker.

At the end of the day, I do all I do to assist Fever to be the best it can be. And if these few functioning instruments can remain viable, credible, trim, lean vehicles for our entertainment pleasure, I am happy to serve our community.

I appreciate your continued support.

I encourage all to use this thread as a community bulletin board. We will continue to leave up all new messages for a few weeks, as long as others are responding to them. And after that, the good stuff will either be consolidated in single posts, or attached to someone's original bio, or dumped into the unfathomable maws of eternity (deleted).

Bill Burgess
Catcher24 is so gracious:
Bill - You're doing a fine job, and I for one appreciate it. Keeping the "flotsam and jetsom" of the threads to a minimum is an excellent idea. Thanks for all of your time and effort in helping to keep the Fever a viable and interesting site!
I'm new to bbf and I'm not so sure what goes on behind the scenes and quite frankly no so sure what this thread is but i second everything that was said - this is a great site - i wish i had been here a long time ago - you guys must be doing something right - i appreciate it - thanks
Captain Cold Nose:
Bill, thank you very much for the above post. Hopefully it will alleviate any misunderstandings. Much appreciated.

55 chmps
11-25-2005, 12:23 PM
Name : Joseph Michael Pantorno
DOB: December 10, 1991
Education: I'm right now attending Farmingdale High School. I'm a freshman.
Baseball passion: I got it from my dad. He influenced me to play, my interest somehow reached to the Brooklyn Dodgers, it's wierd, a 13 year old kid who can name you the lineup for the 1954 Dodgers. anywho....
Favorite Ball players: Jackie Robinson, Pee Wee Reese, Duke Snider, Roy Campanella, Gil Hodges, Carl Furillo, Stan Musial, Roberto Clemente, Honus Wagner, Ty Cobb (Even though he murdered his dad), Tom Seaver, Tommy Agee, Willie McCovey, Lou Gherig, Yogi Berra, Mike Piazza, and Ralph Kiner.
Movies:Miracle, Eight Men Out, Field of Dreams, The Great Raid, Happy Gilmoure, Napoleon Dynamite.
Bands:The Beatles, Outkast, All American Rejects, Queen, surprisingly Simon and Garfunkel are okay, Blue Oyster Cult.
Favorite Basketball Player:Walt Clyde Frazier, Lew Alcindor, Bob McCadoo, Oscar Robertson, Patrick Ewing, Vince Carter, Kevin Garnett.
Favorite Football Player:Lance Allworth, Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Lawrence Taylor, Fran Tarkenton, Otto Graham, Y.A. Title, Dick Butkus, Chuck Bednerek, Johnny Unitas.
Favorite Actors: Adam Sandler, Will Smith, Eddie Murphy, Owen and Luke Wilson, Vince Vaughn, Will Ferell, Cedric the Entertainer,Matthew Perry, and Arnold Schwartenager.
Actress:Meryl Streep, Hally Berry, Jennifer Aniston.
Books:Bums, The Boys of Summer, 1947: When All Hell Broke Loose, Artemis Fowl, Harry Potter.

I am very glad that you got through that, and well that's everything ya know, it's wierd all these baseball, football, and basketball players I weren't even born to see, that's what makes them look so much more heroic.