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Bill Burgess
04-23-2005, 11:02 AM
As the creator of this thread, I RESERVE the RIGHT to delete, move, consolidate all posts which are not in the best interests of this thread. No opinions will be changed in any way.---Bill Burgess

Guest Book. I hope all sign in.

As all here well know, Fever is my favorite addiction. You guys are my passion. We share the National Pastime, battle each other royally, and have a general blast.

Recently, I had a "painless, silent" heart attack, but thanks to dear friends, I was rushed to the hospital in time. On Feb. 10-11, 2005, the good docs at Santa Clara Valley Medical Center, pulled me back from the brink. I'm fine again. Good doctoring did the trick, and I'm symptom-free, just lack some old zip. Hope my lack of aggression doesn't show.

But my recent thoughts of my mortality, made me wonder who you guys are, that have been arguin' with me this past year. You spanked me good, put me firmly in my place, and that took good BB smarts.

I'll go first. I'd like to know first names, year of birth, what you guys do for work, how you came by your BB passion, and did you play as a kid? How far did you get, and did you play ball recreationally post-school?

William Burgess; 5'7; 140 lbs.
Born: 1951, Brooklyn, NY. Lived on Putnam Ave., Brooklyn with our Nanny until 1953. Dad was in Korea, trying to not get himself killed.
1953-56: Lived in base housing, Sheridanville, Fort Dix, NJ.
1956-69: Lived in Mt. Holly, NJ.
1969-79: Lived in NYC. Lived Woodside (Queens), Riverdale (Bronx), Inwood (Manhattan), West 73 St., near Columbus Ave.
1979-present: Palo Alto/Menlo Park, CA area, 30 miles south of San Francisco, CA

Nationality: Mom's side (1/2 Italian, 1/4 Spanish, Madrid, 1/4 French); Dad's side (English, Irish, Scotch)

Education: Catholic grade school (Sacred Heart School on High Street, Mt. Holly, NJ), public HS (Rancocas Valley Reg. HS, Jacksonville Rd., Mt. Holly, NJ);

Manhattan College, Riverdale, Bronx, NY, 1969-70. Dropped out and never regretted it for a minute. Ran track there, trained on my own, ran a 4:43 mile in only race I ran. Coaches there were Fred Dwyer/Frank Gagliano, both world-class.

I came by my BB passion from Dad. He wanted to be a pitcher, and was good, but his mom (Grandma) wouldn't let him. So he hoped I'd be a ballplayer, but I wasn't near good, big, fast, strong enough. I played grade-school ball from 4th-7th grade, in CYO (Catholic Youth Organization), and was on my HS freshman team. Wanted to pitch but they sat me on the bench. Of course, as a grade schooler, we played BB in the neighborhood every day. Couldn't stay away from it. I was also in a slow-pitch softball league, around 1979, co-ed. Loved it. It was based on company employees.

From 1966-'70, was a runner, set HS records in track/x-country. Went to NJ state meet as HS junior. Ran 4:34/10:17 in mile/2 miles double.

Work: 1969-79 - NYC post office (GPO - 33-34 St. & 8th Ave.;
1970-77, trained to be a professional dancer, worked NYC night-club, Trude Heller's as professional rock dancer. Rock Dance Super Freak.
1979-89, Palo Alto, CA cab driver
1985- 2004 - self-employed window washer
1998-present - self-employed adult care-giver

Along the way, I also did sales. Sold health supplements to pedestrians on the street in NYC (1977), Filter Queen vacuums (door to door in Joliet, IL, 1989), nutritional supplements, dental plans by phone (NYC, 1998), term life insurance (A. L. Williams - Mt. Holly, NJ, 1989). Also worked for temp employment agencies as a clerk in offices, shipping and receiving clerk, driving gigs, and a lot of crap jobs - just for a desperation paycheck.

Most everything I've ever tried, I've done extremely well, except for sales. Not braggin'. Just obsess on stuff till I get it right.

Favorite ballplayers: Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Buck Ewing, Rube Waddell, Walter Johnson, George Sisler, Eddie Collins, Joe Jackson, Babe Ruth, Sandy Koufax, Nolan Ryan, Oscar Charleston, John 'Pop' Lloyd, Biz Mackey.

Favorite movies: Star War series, Somewhere In Time (1980), 7th Voyage of Sinbad (1958), Dune (1984), Forbidden Planet (1956), 8 1/2 (1963), Fargo (1996), 7 Beauties (1976), Blue Velvet (1986), Silence of the Lambs trilogy, Lord of the Rings trilogy (2001-2003), The Exorcist (1973), Gone With The Wind (1939), Wizard of Oz (1939), Hard Candy (2005), American Psycho (2000), No Country For Old Men (2007), Mr. Brooks (2007), anything concerning the Trojan War, many well-done love stories, most Ivory-Merchant movies.

Favorite Rock Acts: Beatles, Beach Boys, 4 Seasons, Temptations, Miracles, Brian Wilson, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, The Band, Staple Singers, Van Morrison, Carol King, Phil Spector, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Paul Simon, Sam Cooke, Smokey Robinson.

Favorite Rock CD's: Abbey Road (1969, Beatles); Rubber Soul (1965, Beatles); Pet Sounds (1966, Beach Boys); Smile (2004, Brian Wilson); Sticky Fingers (1971, Rolling Stones); Exile on Main Street (1972, Rolling Stones); Bridge Over Troubled Waters (1970, Simon & Garfunkle); There Goes Rhymin' Simon (1973, Paul Simon); Tapestry (1971, Carol King); The Fairy Ring (1982, Mike Rowland, New Age pianist); (own 10 versions of HAIR, 1968 London version of Hair is the best, IMHO).

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: Temptations (1994, Emperors of Soul); Miracles (1994, 35 Anniversary Collection); 4 Seasons (1988, 25th Anniversary Collection); Beach Boys (1993, Good Vibrations: Thirty Years of the Beach Boys); Hank Williams, Sr. (1990, The Original Singles Collection); Supremes (1986, Anthology); The Band (1994, Across the Great Divide); Eagles (1994, Very Best Of Eagles); Bob Dylan (1985, Biograph); Aretha Franklin (1992, Queen of Soul); Simon & Garfunkel (1990, Collected Works); Elton John (2002, Greatest Hits, 1970-2002); Paul Simon (1993, 1964-1993); Bob Marley (1999, Songs of Freedom); Joan Baez (1993, Rare, Live, & Classic); The Very Best of The Dixie Cups (1998, Chapel of Love); Fleetwood Mac (1988, Greatest Hits); George McCrae (1994, The Best of George McCrae - Rock Your Baby); Chicago (2002, The Very Best of Chicago - Only The Beginning).

Favorite Rock Geniuses: Brian Wilson (Beach Boys/soloist); Paul McCartney (Beatles/Wings); John Lennon (Beatles/soloist); Bob Dylan; Smokey Robinson (Miracles, soloist); Norman Whitfield (Temptations); Phil Spector (Righteous Bros., Crystals, Ronettes); Bob Gaudio (4 Seasons); Holland-Dozier-Holland team (4 Tops/Supremes/Martha & the Vandellas/Motown groups); Jagger/Richards team (Rolling Stones); Bob Marley (The Wailers); Ray Davies (Kinks); Paul Simon; Elton John; Sam Cooke; Robbie Robertson (The Band); John Fogerty (Creedence Clearwater Revival); Van Morrison.

Favorite Rock Voices: Paul McCartney, Smokey Robinson, Eric Burdon (The Animals), David Ruffin (Temptations, soloist), Eddie Kendricks (Temptations, soloist), Chuck Jackson, Jackie Wilson, Little Richard, Frankie Vallie (4 Seasons), Aretha Franklin, Carol King, Joan Baez, Judy Collins, Sam Cooke, Roy Orbison, Jerry Butler, Lou Rawls, Brook Benton, Van Morrison.

Favorite Rock Guitarists: George Harrison (Beatles, 1962-70); Keith Richards (Rolling Stones, 1962-present); Ronnie Wood (Rod Steward/Rolling Stones, 1975-present); Eric Clapton (Yardbirds, 1963-65)(Cream, 1966-68, etc.); Jerry Garcia (Grateful Dead, 1965-95); Marvin Tarplin (Miracles, 1961-73, Smokey Robinson, 1973-present); Ike Turner, Carlos Santana (Santana, 1970-present).

Favorite Rock Drummers: The groups which are listed here are merely the most identified with. All these drummers worked with many groups, and free lance in studio sessions, and touring:
Benny Benjamin (almost all Motown/Gordy/Tamla recordings, 1959-68); Hal Blaine (studio sessions); Bernard Purdy; Ginger Baker (Cream); Ringo Starr (Beatles, 1962-70); Graeme Edge (Moody Blues, 1964-75); Jim Keltner (Gary Lewis & Players, among others); Dino Danelli (Rascals, 1964-72); Bobby Colomby (Blood, Sweat & Tears, 1967-77); Steve Gadd (Steely Dan); Ansley Dunbar (Journey, 1974-78); BJ Wilson (Procol Harem, 1967-75,'77); Mitch Mitchell (Jimmy Hendrix Experience, 1966-70); John Bonham (Led Zeplin); John J. Badanjek (Mitch Ryder & Detroit Wheels, 1964-67,'71); Ian Paice (Deep Purple); Danny P. Seraphine (Chicago, (1966-90); Bill Bruford (Yes, 1968-69,91); Michael Shrieve (Santana, 1969-74,'88); Carl Palmer (Emerson, Lake & Palmer, 1970-79); Neil Peart (Rush, 1974-present); Jeff Porcaro (Toto); John Robinson, Gregg Bissonette.

Music I Don't Care For: Although I may like an isolated example from a category, the categories I don't care for, as a whole are: Country, blues, bluegrass, gospel, hard rock, heavy metal, New Wave, Punk, Rap, Hip Hop, Jazz, Latin.

Music I'm predisposed to Like: Classic Rock, light rock, 1950's Doo Wop, R&B (Soul Music), Easy Listening, New Age, Reggae, Broadway, Big Bands, Folk, Tex-Mex, Western, popular (Sinatra, Bennett, Streisand).

Classical Music: Although I cannot access most classical music, finding it too bombastic, heavy, tedious or just plain boring, there are certain select pieces which bespeak genius: 1st/3rd movements of Beethoven's 9th Symphony; Adagio of Mozart's 41st (Jupiter) Symphony, adagios from Beethoven's Late String Quartets.

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jim Thorpe, Jim Brown, Ty Cobb, Babe Didrikson Zaharias, Honus Wagner, Michael Jordan, Mohammed Ali, Jack Dempsey, Wilt Chamberlain, Carl Lewis, Red Grange, Pele.

Favorite Track Runners: Ron Clarke, Jim Ryun, Gerry Lindgren, Steve Prefontaine, Marty Liquori, Paavo Nurmi, Emil Zatopek, Haile Gebrselassie.

Favorite Basketball Players: Michael Jordan, Dr. J. (Julius Irving), Walt Frazier, Bob Cousy, Meadowlark Lemon.

Favorite Football Runners: Jim Brown, Jim Thorpe, Walter Payton, Red Grange, Franco Harris, Gayle Sayers, Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson, Tony Dorsett.

Favorite Movie Directors: David Lynch, Igmar Bergman, Federico Fellini, Akira Kurosawa, Luis Buñuel, Stanley Kubrick, John Huston, Alfred Hitchcock, Steven Spielberg, John Boorman, Lindsay Anderson, Ron Howard, Lina Wertmuller.

Favorite Actors: Lawrence Olivier, John Gielgud, Alec Guiness, John Barrymore, Charlie Chaplin, Laurel & Hardy, Kenneth Branagh, Humphrey Bogart, Cary Grant, Clark Gable, Edward G. Robinson, WC Fields, Max Von Sydow, Dustin Hoffman, Robert DeNiro, Donald Sutherland, Marlon Brando, Sean Penn, Malcolm McDowell, Samuel L. Jackson, John Travolta, Nicholas Cage, Charles Grodin, James Woods, Vince Vaughn, Tom Hanks, Philip Seymour Hoffman, William Hurt, Joe Mantegna, Hector Elizondo, Alex Baldwin, Jude Law, Viggo Mortensen, Tom Wilkinson, Charles Laughton, Christopher Plummer; Jack Nicholson, Robin Williams, George Clooney, Matt Damon, Tommy Lee Jones, Kevin Spacey, Kiefer Sutherland, Morgan Freeman, Adrien Brody;

Favorite Actresses: Meryl Streep, Glenn Close, Michelle Pfeiffer, Ingrid Bergman, Betty Davis, Liv Ullman, Mae West, Virginia Madsen, Mariel Hemingway, Yvette Mimieux, Cate Blanchard, Frances McDermott, Sandra Bernhardt, Scarlett Johansson, Sissy Spacek;

Favorite Ice Dancers: John Curry, Toller Cranston, Scottie Hamilton, JoJo Starbuck, Katerina Witt.

Favorite Mixed Martial Artists of the Ultimate Fighting Championships: UFC These names are hyper-links. Click onto any of them, and it will take you to their wikipedia page, showing their complete, current records.
Ken Shamrock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Shamrock), Dan Severn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Severn), Royce Gracie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royce_Gracie), Randy Couture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Couture), Don Frye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Frye), Vitor Belfort (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitor_Belfort), Wanderlei Silva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderlei_Silva), Georges St. Pierre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_St._Pierre), Diego Sanchez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Sanchez)

Technically Best-Made Movies: Exorcist I (1973), Lord of the Ring trilogy (2001-03), West Side Story (1961), Angel Heart (1987), Terminator I (1984), Silence of the Lambs (1991), Dune (1984), Blue Velvet (1986), Total Recall (1990), Forbidden Planet (1956), 7th Voyage of Sinbad (1958), Star Wars Series.

Favorite Cool Stuff: Antique Ivory, artifacts made from ivory/bone/celluloid, antique maplewood furniture, old-fashioned fountain pens, old coins, old bills, marble, alabaster, autumn-toned quilted comforters, anything gold, living in NYC's west side, Jewish delis, jumbo shrimp, chopped liver from a real Jewish Deli, Orange Julius', vanilla egg cremes, Famous Ray's Pizza (NYC), Chinese take-out, Nathan's in NYC, Pretty Women who really like me.

Favorite Comedy Stuff: Charlie Chaplin, Laurel & Hardy, Harvey Korman (Carol Burnett Show), Peter Sellers, Steve Martin, Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, Seinfeld, Danny Kaye, Madylyn Kahn, Phil Silvers (Bilko), WC Fields, Steve Allen, Robin Williams, Billy Crystal, George Carlin, Rodney Dangerfield, Jackie Gleason (Honey Mooners), William Bendix (Life of Riley), Amos & Andy.

Least Favorite Comedy Stuff: Abbot & Costello, I Love Lucy, Tim Conway, Gilligans' Island, 3 Stooges, Buddy Hackett, Mel Brooks, Carl Reiner, Martin Short, Jackie Mason, Paul Reiser (Mad About You), Jerry Lewis, Don Rickles, Alf, Bronson Pinchot (Perfect Strangers), 3's Company, Bosom Buddies, Soap, The Ropers, Married With Children, Benny Hill, Stick Puppet 'Madame', MASH.

Favorite Interests (hobbies): Old-fashioned baseball, chess, 60-70's classic light rock music, modern jazz dance, pretty women, Track and Field, Mixed Martial Arts Fighting (watching).

Favorite TV Shows: My 3 Sons, Leave It To Beaver, Andy Griffith, Seinfeld, 8 Is Enough, Amos and Andy, The Real McCoys, Life of Riley, Maverick, Golden Girls, Larry Sander's, Dobie Gillis, Siskel/Ebert, Have Gun - Will Travel, Bonanza, LA Law, Waltons, Little House on Praire, Family, Columbo, baseball games, UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championships), Wicked Wicked Games 2007 mini-series, American Bandstand, The Apprentice, The Bachelor/Bachelorette, Aaron's Way, Love Connection, Parole Board, People's Court, Benu The Phoenix, A&E's American Justice, Cold Case Files, FBI Files, "I Shouldn't Be Alive" - aired on Discovery Channel, 2005-07, and Animal Planet, 2010-present, Court TV's Forensic Files, Arrest & Trial, Meerkat Manor, Dragon's Den, Hell's Kitchen, Kitchen Nightmares, American Restoration, Pawn Stars, Oxygen Channel's 'Snapped' series, Fear Factor, Antiques Roadshow, Shark Tank, American Idol, Bait Car, The Locator, Shipping Wars, Swamp People, City Confidential, Dual Survival, Dateline: Real Life Mysteries, Master Chef, Bar Rescue, Hotel Impossible, Auction Hunters, Whale Wars, Auction Kings,

Least Favorite TV Shows: Keeping Up With the Kardashians, Kourtney and Khloé, Khloe and Lamar, Braxton Family Values, Tamar & Vince, Growing Up Gotti, My Fair Wedding With David Tutera, Bridezillas, The Real Housewives series, Gene Simmons' Family Jewels, Hogan Knows Best, Tori & Dean, Brooke Knows Best, Jerry Springer, Ricky Lake, Maury, Morton Downey Show, Kate Plus 8, Kathy Griffin, Flavor of Love with Flavor Flav, Bethenny Ever After, World's Dumbest, WWE, Mob Wives, Jersey Shore, 1,000 Ways to Die (It's all made up), Manswers, Raising Sextuplets, Graham Norton Show, America's Funniest Home Videos, Oxygen's The Bad Girls Club, Oxygen's Love Games: Bad Girls Need Love Too, Impractical Jokers, truTV's Rehab: Party at the Hard Rock Hotel, Wipeout, Ice Loves Coco, R&B Divas, Living With La Toya, Real Husbands of Hollywood, Go On, The Way It Is, Family First, Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, The Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey, Beverly Hills, Orange County, New York City, and Miami, Exreme Couponing, Toddlers and Tiaras, Gene Simmons' Family Jewels, Say Yes To the Dress,

Favorite Foods: chopped liver from a real Jewish Deli, thick well-done steak, lamb, fried chicken, pizza, cheese, potatoes in any form but especially baked, corn, avocados, artichokes, mushrooms, broccoli, shrimp, crab, lobster, scallops, oysters, clams, seafood/clam chowder, lasagna, quiche, cheese cake, hoagies, popcorn, fastfood burgers such as a mushroom cheeseburger with spicy mustard. (Also am a severe chocoholic, due to a severe caffeine addiction. But I don't eat it anymore because caffeine messes me up. Still yearn/long for coca-cola and ice tea! Memories of my favorite former downfalls are fading fast! Hate when that happens.)

Favorite Comfort Junk food from Childhood - Hershey Bar, Peanut Butter Reese Cup, Baby Ruth, Chunky, Snickers, 3 Muskateers, Milky Way, oreo cookies, TastyCake Fruit Pies, Oatmeal Raisin Bars, Almond Joy, Slim Jim Beef Jerky,

Favorite Colognes - Old Spice, Kent of London, Canoe, Brut, Jade East, English Leather, Pinaud.

I Hope Fever members see me as: baseball knowledgeable, a friendly, nice guy who likes to help people, articulate, having good taste.

Least Favorite People: George Bush, OJ Simpson, Amarosa (The Apprentice), Stacy Kessler (Millionaire Matchmaker), Walter O'Malley, Charles Comiskey, Ban Johnson, Ted Kennedy, TV evangelists, Ariel Sharon, Saddam Hussein, Dick Cheney, Dr. Laura Schlessinger, Diana Ross, the Rockefellers, the Rothchilds, Queen of England, Adolf Hitler and all high-level Nazis, Nicki Manaj,

Favorite Books:
Iliad, Odyssey, by Homer, ancient times
Othello (1604), Hamlet (1600), by William Shakespeare
The Scarlet Letter, by Nathaniel Hawthorne, 1850
Camille, by Alexandre Dumas, 1852
She series, by Sir Henry Rider Haggard, 1887
The Destruction of the Greek Empire and the Story of the Capture of Constantinople by The Turks, by Edwin Pears, 1903
Green Mansions, by William Henry Hudson, 1904
Seventeen, by Booth Tarkington, 1915
Wisdom's Daughter, by Sir Henry Rider Haggard, 1922
The Tiger's Fang, by Paul Twitchell, 1959
2150 A.D., by Thea Alexander, 1971
The Talons of Time, by Paul Twitchell, 1971
With No Apologies: The outspoken political memoirs of America's Conservative Conscience, by Barry M. Goldwater, 1979
Way of The Peaceful Warrior, by Dan Millman, 1980
Ptolia, by Fred Baker, 1982
Hand of Death, The Henry Lee Lucas Story, by Max Call, 1985
On The Breath Of The Gods, by Ariel Tomioka, 1988
Triumph of Justice, The Final Judgment on the (OJ) Simpson Saga, by Daniel Petrocelli, with Peter Knobler, 1998
Your 1st Contact, by Sheldan Nidle, 2000

Favorite Sports Books:
My Life in Baseball - the True Record, by Ty Cobb, with Al Stump, 1961
Cobb, by Al Stump, 1994
Ty Cobb, by Charles Alexander, 1984
The Unforgiving Minute, by Ron Clarke, 1966
Walter Johnson, Baseball's Big Train, by Henry W. Thomas, 1995
Baseball's Best: The Hall of Fame Gallery, by Martin Appel, Burt Goldblatt, 1980
The Glory of Their Times, by Lawrence Stanley Ritter, 1966
Big Sticks, by William Curran, 1990
The Life That Ruth Built, by Marshall Smelser, 1975
Various editions of Total Baseball, especially 1st. ed., 1989
Bill James' Historical Baseball Abstract, by Bill James, 1985, 1988, 2001

Those I Admire Most:
Jesus, Budda, Socrates, Plato, For showing a darkened world a better way.
Leonardo Da Vinci, 1452-1519, Italian Florentine Renaissance painter, sculptor, architect, engineer, scientist; leading figure in sparking the Middle Ages towards an Enlightenment in the arts/sciences.
Winston Churchill, 1874-65, guided England through its darkest hour. Lord of Admiralty, 1911-15, '39; Prime Minister, 1940-45, 1951-55.
Nelson Mandela, 1918-present, S. Africa's 1st black Pres., imprisoned 1962-90, 28 yrs. due to conscience.
Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948, led India to independence from Great Britain via non-violence demonstrations.
Vaclav Havel, 1936-present, imprisoned due to conscience, 1st. Pres. Czechoslovakia, allowed nation to divide without violence/bloodshed.
Albert Einstein, 1879-1955, German Jew, theories on physics changed his field.
Albert Schweitzer, 1875-65, German Christian philosopher, physician, humanitarian, missionary, musician.
Nikolai Tesla, 1856-1943, Yugoslavian inventor whose ideas underlaid most modern machines.
Giuseppe Garibaldi, 1807-82, Father of modern Italian state.
Simon Bolivar, 1783-1830, Father of modern Bolivian state.
Hannibal, 247 BC-183 BC, For military genius, and standing up to Rome.
Emanuel Lasker, 1868-41, German-Jewish chess master, philosopher, mathematician. Chess world champion, 1894-21.
Dali Llama Tenzin Gyatso, 1935-present, 13th in Tibetan lineage. Chinese invasion of Tibet in 1959, forced him into a government-in-exile in N. India. Awarded 1989 Nobel Peace Prize by Norwegian Nobel Peace committee.
Lysander, ?-395 BC, Spartan general who granted unbelievably lenient terms of surrender to Athens in 404 BC, after Athens, during the 30 yr. Peloponnesian war, 431 BC-404 BC, had destroyed many Greek city-states, and killed all their men and sold their women/children into slavery.

My Most Admired Americans:

1. George Washington, 1732-1799, man of virtue, (outside of enslaving blacks), fortitude at Valley Forge, died at his beloved estate, Mt. Vernon, VA.
2. Ty Cobb, 1887-1961, perfected his chosen aspect of human existence, due to his ability to commit his entire being to his goal.
3. George Washington Carver, 1860-1943 American black educator, inventor, agricultural/food scientist, farmer discovered over 100 uses for the peanut/soybean. Did his utmost to assist his fellow Southern farmers in weaning themselves off of their dependency on cotton.
4. Robert E. Lee , 1807-1870, (for EVERYTHING)
5. Douglas MacArthur, 1880-1964, brilliant tactics of island hopping saved American lives. Led US military forces in Pacific in WWII, & Korea. Pissed off Pres. Truman, got fired.
6. Mohammad Ali, 1942-present, for standing up to the draft board, refused to go & fight in Vietnam, spreading his chosen religion, Islam.
7. Stonewall Jackson, 1824-1863, brilliant military tactician for Confederates, under Lee, in Civil War.
8. Jimmy Carter, 1924-present, for his moderation in the Iranian "hostage crises" & building homes for the poor in 3rd world countries.
9. Honus Wagner, 1874-1955, for his Lincolnesque humility & humor despite his awesome greatness in his chosen field.
10. Connie Mack, 1862-1956, his angelic exemplary disposition and great knowledge in his field. Closest person BB ever came to producing a secular "saint".
11. Martin Luther King, Jr., 1929-1968, advocated non-violent means to social progress for American blacks.
12. Barry Goldwater, 1909-1998, American half-Jewish conservative/idealist. Represented Arizona in the US Senate, 1953-'65, '69-87. Ran for US Pres., 1964, lost huge to Lyndon B. Johnson.
13. Murray Rothbard, 1926-1995, American Jewish economist, philosopher, author. Libertarian theorist.
14. Paul Twitchell, 1909-1971, For introducing a spiritually-hungry, modern world to a spiritual path called ECKANKAR.
15. Robert Nozick, 1938-2002, American Jewish Harvard Professor of Philosophy, Libertarian theorist, author. His 'Anarchy, State And Utopia', 1974, articulated Libertarian philosophy.
16. Henry Louis Mencken, 1880-1956, The most prominent newspaperman, book reviewer, and political commentator of his day, Henry Louis Mencken was a libertarian before the word came into usage.
17. William Morton Burgess, Jr., 1907-1998, My Dad - For his lifetime of commitment to his family. Love off the chart.

Favorite Rock Tunes: I've now translated my little list below into youtube links. So now you can actually hear my favorite tunes. Enjoy!

Island of Love (The Sheppards, 1959) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJLJB8QkAAo)
High Life (Herbie Mann, 1960)
Positively 4th Street (Bob Dylan, 1965) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54qhjlTNVn0)
You're My Everything (Temptations, 1966) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btkht2jpPfw)
I Could Never Love Another (Temptations, 1967) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJw7KC78N6k)
Mercy, Mercy, Mercy (Buckinghams, 1967) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdVd3LH1MQs)
Surf's Up, (Brian Wilson, 1967) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDy3kcZfpEY)
Revolution (Beatles, 1968) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imb4tYOk8GE)
Walking In Space (Hair, 1968 London stage version) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9MtJzqfR_c&feature=related)This is NOT the best version. Only last 80 seconds are great.
3-5-0-0 (Hair, 1968 London stage version)
The Soft Parade (Doors, 1969) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XlqCFi6o-E)
Love & Peace (Buddy Rich, 1969)
All God's Children Got Soul (Dorothy Morrison, 1969)
Me & Bobbie McGee (Janis Joplin, 1970) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEBTamMrYbw&feature=related)
Dead Flowers (Rolling Stones, 1971) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ki2daAPp_k)
Touch A Hand, Make A Friend (Staple Singers, 1973) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1IJK0U7Sfg)
Rock Your Baby (George McCrae, 1974) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vIr19aoHQI)
That's Where The Happy People Go (Trampps, 1975) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ACTp68WpQ)
Look Into Your Heart, (Aretha Frankin, 1976, from movie, Sparkle) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DkqAqAqTQk)
Don't Play That Song (Aretha Franklin, 1976) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAa8vwmeewU)
The Flesh Failures (Hair, 1979 movie version) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhNrqc6yvTU)
Waiting For A Friend (Rolling Stones, 1981) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8MhpofxMgk)
Dreams (Cranberries, 1990) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlMWAl7tIro)
Sugar Sugar (Duke Baysee, 1994 reggae version)
Stay (Temptations, 1998) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JtfOXyPyis)

Most of the CDs of Hair, Pet Sounds, Smile and the entire B side of Abbey Road, where the songs segue into the next.

Favorite TV Character Actors:

1. Fred/Ethel Mertz - I Love Lucy - William Frawley/Vivian Vance - 1950's.
2. Festus Haggen - Gunsmoke - Ken Curtis - 1964-1975
3. Barney Fife - Andy Griffith Show/Andy of Mayberry - Don Knotts - 1960-65
4. Eddie Haskel - Leave It To Beaver - Ken Osmond - 1957-63
5. Maynard G. Krebs - Many Loves of Dobie Gillis - Bob Denver - 1959-63
6. Ed Norton - Honeymooners - Art Carney - 1955-71
7. Dr. Zachary Smith - Lost In Space - Jonathan Harris - 1965-68
8. Cosmos Kramer - Seinfeld - Michael Richards -1990-98

Honorable Mentions: Several from Andy Griffith Show.
Gomer Pyle (Jim Nabors), Aunt Bea Taylor (Frances Bavier), Floyd Lawson (Howard McNear), Goober Pyle (George Lindsey),

also Lumpy Rutherford (Leave It To Beaver) - Frank Bank
Maude (Bea Arthur)
My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies:

Listed chronologically, not in order of preference.

1. It Happens Every Spring - 1949 - Ray Milland, professor who discovers wood-repellent substance. Ball jumps around the bat.

2. The Winning Team - 1952 - Ronald Reagan played Pete Alexander.

3. Damn Yankees- 1958 - Ray Walston (My Favorite Martian fame) - Tab Hunter. Gwen Verdon does Bob Fosse choreography (Whatever Lola Wants tango routine). Fosse also made a cameo appearance in dance routine. Music score was outstanding. Tab Hunter plays Joe Hardy, from Hannibal, MO, a transformed old Washington Senator's fan, into a young baseball super hero.

4. The Natural - 1984 - Robert Redford as aging rookie sensation. Glenn Close does nice girl, Barbara Hershey does dark enigma, Kim Basinger is easy on the eyes.

5. Field of Dreams - 1989 - Kevin Costner gets unique chance to reunite with his Dad.

6. Talent For the Game - 1991 - Edward James Olmos plays a BB scout who finds a great pitching prospect, but must become personally involved.

7. A League of Their Own - 1992 - Geena Davis played composite player, Dottie Hinson. Tom Hanks, Madonna, Lori Petty, Jon Lovitz, Rosie O'Donnell support well.

8. Soul of the Game - 1996 - Delroy Lindo, Mykelti Williamson play HBO film's Satchel Paige/Josh Gibson. Good pathos. Had heart.

9. For Love of the Game - 2000 - Kevin Costner is back in uniform.

10. The Rookie - 2002 - Dennis Quaid plays a HS coach with a 100 mph fastball, giving it one more shot, if his HS team cops league title. Nice heart, good pathos.

Honorable Mentions:

Pride of the Yankees - 1942 - Gary Cooper, Babe played himself, as did Bill Dickey, Bob Meusel, and Mark Koenig.

Babe Ruth (1991) (TV), Stephen Lang played Babe, who was trim, for once. Refreshing.
Pet Peeves:

1. Price of ink cartridges for my printer are $32. new. Refills kits only last weeks.
2. Price of high-speed connections to the INTERNET. I pay $46./mo. Absurd.
3. ATM's only give out money in $20. denominations. Wish it were $10.
4. Fast Food chains which don't accept credit/debit cards.
5. Friends who always choose the other person, in call-waiting situations.
6. My computer media player won't let me create a queue for my music.
7. TV/movies which make adults appear like dim-witted idiots. Home alone? Married With Children?
8. Anyone who doesn't practice road etiquette/courtesy.
9. Baseball-Fever presently doesn't accept Excel files.
10. Cell-phone users who, when in public, feel it's OK to impose their personal conversations on those around them.
11. Women claim that looks are not primary, and personality comes first. Wish they really meant it, and acted that way.
12. Women with weight issues going on TV, and insisting how 'ghetto-fabulous' they are. And try to dress provocatively! NOT!! Makes me puke.
13. Tabloid TV shows like Jerry Springer, Maury Povich. Trash. Should get dumped like Rickey Lake, Jenny.
14. Judge Judy: Always bragging how smart she is. Judges should be less rude, more modest, less emotional. Like Judge Alex, or Judge Marilyn Milian from People's Court.

Product Placement in TV reality shows. Examples:
1. Who Wants To Be A Millionaire (Regis Philbin) - He says, "Our friends at ATT will connect you now."
2. American Idol - Big Coca Cola drinks in front of the judges. And Ryan Seacrest constantly informing us how to use "text messaging".
3. Extreme Makeover Home Edition - Ty Pennington constantly telling us that everything comes from Sears.

These shows feel like one huge infomercial to me.
If I have forgotten any other Cool Categories that anyone wishes to include, please, be our guests. Suggested possibilities:
Favorite Supreme Court Justices, Favorites Former Soviet Union Presidents, Favorite Popes, Favorite Former Israeli Presidents, Favorite Baseball Commissioners, Favorite American Presidents, Former Miss Americas and American Idol winners? Or The Bachelor/Bachelorette winners? Just to get you started.
mr. burgess i notice that at one time you worked at the famous n.y.c. club trude heller's. by any chance , did you happen to meet or see any of the local n.y.c bands of that era centered around the village there? meaning the velvet underground, the new york rock ensemble, the silver apples, the fugs, etc.?
I worked at Trude Heller's in 1972, and went there with dates for several years afterwards.

I do not remember those bands you mentioned, but I remember many others.

Margo Lewis Quintet - 5 piece female band. Margo Lewis played huge Hammond organ/keyboards, was beyond fantastic. Tracey Robbins was their totally soulful lead female vocalist. They sang great Staple Singers tunes, i.e. This World, I'm Just Another Soldier, Respect Yourself and Grandma's Hands and a fantastic version of Dorothy Morrison's "All God's Children Got Soul", Janis Joplin's "Me & Bobby McGee".

New York Central - 5 white kids from Astoria, Queens.
Gotham - 3 young, male vocalists
Manhattan Transfer - jazz, later got their own TV variety show.
Frankie Paris
Morgan - black vocalist from Paris, France. Played only James Brown, in French.
Monti Rock III
Blossom Dearie
Addendum on my Dad:
My Dad was born in Dec. 24, 1907. He sold shoes in NYC at Macy's in the ladies dept. from 1927-41. He was drafted in '41, stayed in the army until 1962, as Master Sergeant, retired junior warrant officer, and then worked at the General Post Office in NYC from '62 until the 1980's. Somewhere in-between he was a professional ladies' masseur.

When my family says, "You're just like Dad", my heart could burst with pride. Nicest thing they could say to me. Never tell them that, or they'd stop.

When he was in Korea, trying to not get himself killed, he did something rare. Here is his write-up in "Infantry Blue".


"Though continually subjected to the hardships that make up war, men of the 223d Infantry Regiment in Korea are literally fighting to remain with their unit in the midst of battle, even after their time for rotation to the States comes up.

During the final three months of 1952, according to the regimental commander, Col. Louis W. Truman, Washington, D. C., 47 fighters re-enlisted to remain in combat with the 223d, and 26 of these were for a 6-year period. In addition, 11 draftees voluntarily extended their service tour by 9 months.

Surprising as this is in itself, all the more astonishing is the fact that the unusually high number was reached not as a result of an organized recruiting drive but mainly through the hustle and drive of a pair of battle-scarred warriors.

The men responsible for the re-enlistments are WOJG William M. Burgess Jr., Brooklyn N.Y., and SFC Chester C. Frost, Sacramento, Cal., both of whom are full-time front-line fighters. Between patrols, skirmishes, and defensive maneuvers, when they should be resting, this duo takes it upon its self to have friendly chats with the boys, help solve their problems and give them any aid they can.

Burgess' successful philosophy is "the right man for the right job." He continually strives to get the best for each soldier, and the best out of each soldier, in his unit.

"If the applicant for re-enlistment is eligible for transfer to Japan or another theater," Burgess explains, "we encourage and approve his attempts to better himself in the service. If he wants to stay in Korea for additional promotion, we assist him. We are endeavoring to fit the man's desires to the needs of the Army. Whatever a man's personal life plan or vocation may be, we can use it in the service." (Wednesday, February 25, 1953, Korea edition, Stars and Stripes)

So I am very proud of him. Lost him May 22, 1998, age 90, NYC, but chat with him every day, in here. Thanks for putting up with my hokey sentiments for Dad.
Addendum on Dad/Mom:
I want to mumble a few praises to my own Mom/Dad here. Mom's still with us, thank the Lord above. Dad checked out May 22, 1998, and has been doing what he can for us down here ever since, I'm sure.

Dad: Born: Dec. 24, 1907, Magnum, OK. He was an only child. Growing up, his Mom moved around some. Spent some time in Anaheim, CA, and then on to Chicago, IL, where the White Sox/Joe Jackson were his favorites. Black Sox broke his heart. His Mom & him hit NYC by 1927, and stayed put there permanently. He wasn't allowed to attend school, because his mother, a very educated woman, felt the educational system was too socialistic. So she yanked him, and gave him lessons to do at home, while she worked. Of course a male child on his own won't do his lessons. She tried to put him into HS, unprepared, but it was too much. He later tried college on his own, but couldn't cope. He had no background in an accumulative system. So Dad had no education to speak of, but he could read well.

He sold shoes in Macy's in NYC from 1927-42, when he was drafted by Uncle Sam. Did well in the Pacific sector, under MacArthur, and was called back from the reserves to do time in Korea. Once in Korea, he awoke with a rattle snake coiled sleeping on his belly. Had to have the best marksman in the squad shoot the rattler off his belly. Whew!

He stayed in the service until 1961, a Master Sergeant, stationed at Fort Dix, NJ, with 5 kids. Came out of the service and went to work for the Post Office in NYC, and stayed there from 1962-1977. They then told him he had to retire, since 70 was the mandatory retirement age. He sued them, won, and they had to let him keep working there. But for only half-pay! The greedy sons-of-bitches told him he was taking too much out of the gov., with his SS, Army pension, military disability. He went along. What else could he do?

So he worked until around mid-80's, and then retired. He told me, "Billy, you can't read the papers, play OTB (off-track betting) and watch TV all day." I remember thinking, "I could."

I believe he was happiest in a bar/tavern, with a goodly sampling of folks his own age, preferably with a piano man playing. He loved singing the old songs in bars. He often bought everyone a round. Dad was English/Irish/Scotch. Couldn't get drunk. No matter how much he drank, and he loved his Seagram's 7/Coke highballs, he never slurred, never got stupid, could walk a perfect line. As they say, he "metabolized alcohol perfectly".

Mom: Born: Feb. 24, 1925, New Orleans, LA. She was 18 years younger than Dad. She was Italian/French/Spanish (Madrid). She was a true beauty. Still is, as a matter of fact. Funny thing was, I once saw a copy of their wedding certificate. Dad lied about his age by around 7 years, Mom lied by around 3 years! Who was kiddin' who?!

Mom had been raised by her Mom's sisters. She lived in a big estate on The Croton. Two of her relatives were world-famous Ballroom dancers, "Mary Raye and Naldi". Appeared often on the Ed Sullivan show, performed before the crowned heads of Europe, and the most exclusive night clubs. Their big number was a Tango to "Begin the Beguine". So Mom lived with them on their beautiful estate, in Croton-On-the-Hudson.

Anyway, Mom was raised properly, had a beautiful singing voice, but lost a lot of her "polish" after being married to Dad! He never could adjust to marriage. He was 42 and she 24 when they got hitched Oct. 22, 1949. She raised us dutifully, but he didn't enjoy staying home with us. Usually out playing bingo, making excuses, etc.

Mom did a good job with us, mostly by herself. And she wasn't a strong person, but we made her stronger than she ever knew she could be. So she's my hero, and strangely, Dad is too. He just couldn't make his appropriate adjustments. Mom is happy today, living in Florida with her second husband. Although he's a blowhard in many ways, he did right by her. He's still alive today, aged 90, Mom just turned 80, and he only retired this year from working. And I must respect that a lot.

So that's about all I wanted to say about that for the time being. You may all come out of your comas now.

William Morton Burgess, III
Thought some might be interested in seeing what I looked like back in the day. My Driver's License taken in 1980. Of course, I don't still look that good. Time had taken its toll.

And the dance shot is from 1972, when I was only 21. From April to October, 1972, I had the supreme honor of dancing with Carol Fasano of Brooklyn. We were rock dance partners at Trude Heller's, 9th St./6th. Ave., Manhattan. Best time of my life. No close second.

Bill Burgess

That driver's license photo looks an awful lot like Sandy Koufax! You been hiding something from us all this time, Bill, like a secret identity or something?
Isn't it a shame what time does to a fine young specimen? I'm your age and can relate 100%!

Dang, a real ladykilller

Nice extension, Bill. Lots of time well spent hanging around the barres?

Like a young John Travolta in SNF, not that I'd know anything about that movie... I never watch things like that

Table of Contents:

Page 1
1. Bill Burgess ------------- - Feb. 22, 1951 - Mt. View, CA
2. 64Cards ------------------ - St. Louis, MO
3. Julusnc -----------Jeremy - October 4, 1971, West North Carolina
4. BoSox Rule --------- Bobby - March 16, 1989, Cambridge, MA
5. Honus Wagner Rules -- Adam - August 17, 1968, San Jose, CA
6. tearforamariner --- Russell - May 21, 1985, Tacoma, WA
7. Torez77 - ------------Geoff - June 5, 1977 - Indianapolis, IN
8. leecemark ----- Mark Leece - September 20, 1959, Tacoma, WA
9. Imapotato -------------- JT - January 16, 1975 - Troy, NY
10. Appling --------Roger Kane - 1935 - 70
11. Pumpsie Green ------- John - 14
12. Kroxquo ---------- Keith - May 11, 1965 - Goldboro, NC
13. The Dude (Dudecar00) Wil - June 29, 1988 - 16
14. ElHalo --------------- Jim - 1980 - 25 - NYC
15. Four Tool - --Mark Szymcik - June 9, 1949 - Worcester, MA
16. Captain Cold Nose -- Scott - 34 - Kettering, OH
17. CyNotSoYoung ------- Steve - 1953 - Pittston, ME - 34
18. Mordeci ------------------ - August 29, 1967 - Hamilton, OH, N. of Cincinnati, OH
19. Wagner33 ------------ Jeff - August 29, 1977 - Arlington, VA
20. 2Chance ------------------ - February 17, 1960 - Cincinatti, OH
21. Sirmudgeon - ------------- - 42 - Yountville, Napa, CA
22. tonjes ---------------Mike - Nov. 28, 1981 - Norfolk, Va
23. moviegeekjan ------------- - March 22, 1948 - Phoenix, AZ
24. Ichiro51 - ----------Frank - April 19, 1983
25. Mac195 --------------Japan - 1963

Page 2
26. RuthMayBond --- Jeff James - July 31, 1960 - NE Ohio
27. KHenry14 - ------------Ken - March 16, 1957 - Los Angeles, CA
28. Chanceron ---------- Ronny - May 24, 1950 - Central Florida
29. Rockin500 ------------ Ray - March 1, 1978 - Chicago, IL
30. St.LCards2-Matthew Cornwell- Oct. 9, 1981 - St. Louis
31. Bleacherbee
32. DTF955 --------Davy Fowler - Sept. 13, 1970 - NE Ohio
33. JohnnysGhost-------------- - 1992 - Rhode Island
34. Irow Jaw ------------ Mike - Nov. 20, 1955 - Yuma, AZ
35. JW ----------------- Jason - Oct. 9, 1979 - Baltimore, MD
36. The Splendid Splinter - Bart Schutter - June 27, 1984 - Earl Park, IL
37. Wamby-------------------Jim - 1964 - Northport, AL
38. Say Hey - ----------------- - 1990 - Detroit, MI
39. Busta J2632 ------------Sam - February 20, 1985
40. 538280 -------------- Chris - February 18, 1992 - Ludlow, Mass. -13
41. Yankees Rule -------- Chris - February 7, 1967 - Staten Island, NY
42. Edgartohof --------- Robert - December 6, 1986
43. catcher24 -------Lew Snyder - May 18, 1951 - Jamestown, NY
44. therealnod ----------- Evan - 1974 - Mesa, AZ
45. schlabotnik ---------Johnny - March 22, 1956 - Laval Island, N. of Montreal
46. IPOD--------------------Ian - 1986 - U. of Berkely - SF Bay area
47. SABR Matt --Matthew Souders - Oct. 16, 1981 - Oswego, NY
48. Ize19 ----------------Isaac - August 9, 1988 - Rancho Bernardo, CA
49. Big Stelly Padres 4Life
50. TKO ----------- Randy Fiato - July 24, 1983 - Norwalk, CT, SW Conn.

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51. Uhhh_Stuff ------------- Eddie - Oct. 22, 1970 - CA
52. Nick G ----------------------- - November 11, 1983
53. Wolverineman-Kyle Alan Manning - March 10, 1985 - Oxford, Ind.
54. E.Banks#14 ----------- Garrett - April 26, 1991 - Vernon Hills, IL
55. barzilla -Scott Patrick Barzilla - Nov.30, 1973 - Houston, TX
56. Chancellor ------- Brad Harris - June 20, 1974 - Mt. Grove, MO
57. Giambijuice ------------------ - 1983
58. Screwbll 45 --------- Harrison - March 12, 1989 - Houston, TX
59. abolishthedh ------------- Wes - January 6, 1960 - Bethany, MO
60. scribe114 ------ Shafi McCants - August 15, 1968 - Detroit, MI
61. VTSox Fan -------- Annie Marie - August 13, 1968 - Rawsonville, VT, SE
62. Flash Gordon ---- Eddie Martin - February 19, 1970
63. NeverJustAGame -----Scot Moore - August 17, 1960 - Columbia, SC
64. #1Rangerfan -- 14
65. Bristol Boy -------------Pingu - Apr. 2, 1987 - Bristol, England
66. Pjf-----------------------Pete - age 61,
67. Myankee4life-----Mario Padilla - 16 - Bronx, NY
68. janduscframe-------------Loren - Ellendale, MN
69. Yankee Legend-----------Elliot - May 2, 1989 - Staten Island
70. Windy City Fan----Craig Ashley - July 27, 1977 - Chicago, IL
71. Jalbright --------Jim Albright - April 14 - SE Pennsyvania
72. pjuovolk------------------Pete - 1991 - Maryland
73. MojoRisin71---------------Jim - Arcadia, CA - June 24, 1980
74. rbrittain56---------------Rik - Mathis, TX - Aug. 3, 1956
75. nutmeagh-------------------Ann - Canada

Page 4
76. clockwork-----------------Rich - Philadelphia, PA - 1987
77. Southlake Cubs Fan------Trevor - 1990 - Southlake, TX
78. TyrusRaymond Cobb-Simon Foster - November 23, 1971 - Melbourne, Australia
79. HankAaron86--------------Tyler - 1993--Atlanta, Georgia
80. Deadball2005-------Zach Jendro - 1977 - Cincinnati, OH
81. Give It A Ride ---Samuel Hwang - Dec. 2, 1990 - Palo Alto, CA
82. sschirer--------Shane Schirmer - 1970 - Ludlow, OH
83. Tavish------------Jason Nelson - April 21, 1977 - Topeka, KS
84. Freakshow--------------------- - 1960 - Detroit, MI
85. Dgarza-------------David Garza - October 1, 1974 - Cincinnati, OH
86. Cubsfan97----------------Shawn - November 10, 1990 - Round Lake Beach, Il
87. Driver62---------------------- - Dayton, OH - 1941
88. Dodger-----------Patrick Hogue - February 12, 1966 - West Covina, CA
89. Sultan, 1895-1948 ------ Randy - Sept. 19, 1977 - Sunnyside, WA
90. Digglahhh------Derek Ambrosino - 1980 - Jackson Heights, NY
91. Oscargamblesfro - ------------ - 1971 - Indianaplois, IN
92. YTown Tribe fan--------------- - Cleveland, OH
93. ShoelessJoe3---------------Joe - Buffalo, NY - 1945
94. Pretorius--------------------- - 1983 - Springfield, IL
95. TonyK------------------------- - 1950 - Boston, MA
96. Ken Burns discussion & Civil War battlefields
97. abacab--------------------Andy - Dec.6, 1978
98. History of Baseball Fan
99. House Rules for this Thread
100. 55 chmps------Joseph Pantorno - Dec.10, 1991, Farmingdale, NY

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101. yank0714----------------Randy - Nov.29, 1952, Charlotte, NC
102. baseball Pap-----Scott Carter - Sept. 15, 1972, Logan, Ohio
103. Johnny--------------------Jon -
104. DoubleX------------------Mike - Feb. 22, 1981, Brooklyn, NY
105. EricGotMunsoned----------Adam - Aug. 26, 1987, Grand Rapids, Mich.
106. christian gentleman-----Tyler - July 20, 1968, Amsterdam,
107. Tigerfan1974------------Keith - Sept. 15, 1965, Dallas, TX
108. Brannu----------------Brandon - March 23, 1972, CA
109. AGI----------------------Adam - July 22, 1991, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
110. Pghfan987----------Matt Busch - December 26, 1985 - New Alexandria, PA
111. Murderers Row------Tony Aubry - New York City
112. Food---------------------Alex - 1974, San Ramon, CA
113. ThanksTheo--------------Roger - 1950, Boston, MA
114. kckid--------------Eric Casey - January 8, 1992, Middlesex, MA
115. SoberDennis------Dennis Jones - May 14, 1957, San Diego, CA
118. Brownie31---George Robertson - October 31, 1950, Bessemer, AL
119. Pet Peeves
120. TV Character Actors
121. Rock Music
122. Baseball Junkie----------Jere - PA, 20's
123. The Big C--------Cameron Ball - Eaton Rapids, MI, August 28, 1988
124. RichmondHillPhoenix ----Geoff - October 18, 1989
125. 5LilPlayers------------------ - January 20, 1973

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126. sturg1dg------------------Dan - September 12, 1982
127. WestCoast Orange & Black-Tony - San Francisco
128. Outta Here----Bradley Meadows - 1990, Liverpool, England
129. Chelle---------------Michelle
130. Erik Bedard---------------Dan - Baltimore
131. Kyle------------------------- - 1992 - Holliston, MA
133. CanadianKid------------------ - February 6, 1990
134. Senor Octobre---------------- - mid 1980's
135. hubkittel----------------Jeff - March 3, 1968, Granite City, IL
136. Tigers 527---------------Sean - 1972, Dearborn, MI
137. A Crank---------------------- - 1961
138. Evan Aparra--------------Evan - April 23, 1986, Texas
139. falkirk-buc-------------Colin - 1979 - Falkirk, Scotland
140. Astro------------Scott Roemer - June 12, 1988, Louisville, KY
141. Go-Skychiefs-Go----Steve Reid - August 26, 1992, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
142. bailiff----------------Andrew - Denton, TX
143. John ------------------ -
144. Down Under Dodger---------Bob - 1952, Australia
145. dmbfan--------------------Tim - 1974, Middletown, PA
146. Red Sox Rule-----Adam Corlett - 1988, Leeds, England
147. Chris LDuncan---------
148. Candy Curveball Cummings-Richard Castle - May 30, 1985, Tacoma, WA
149. Nascarfn5-----------Dan Betts - July 7, 1989, Vandalia, OH
150. OhBoy--------------------Bill - Tucson, AZ, 1962

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151. W_Marone-----------Ken Marone - November 18, 1987
152. SwingMan24--------------Chris - October 22, 1980
153. Dodgerfan1---------Bill Irvin - August 4, 1958
154. Keepthefaith3-----------Chris - 1990
155. Chiefs 4 Life------Steve Reid - 1993
156. AlaskatoBalto---Tiffany Amber - 1984, Bel Air, MD
157. Jays632------------------Matt - February 17, 1988
158. Johnny Seven-------------Mark - May 15, 1989, Baltimore, MD
159. Westlake----------Evan Knoopp - April 23, 1986, TX
160. EdmondsFan#1 --Hunter Guthrie - January 18, 1993, Bloominton, IL
161. Wade8893-----------------Joel - January 12, 1985, Seattle, WA
162. Stateofmain--------------Bree - Kentucky/Indianapolis area?
163. Acid Lake-Sung-Min 'Slim' Kim - January, 1991, Timonium, Maryland
164. Future: Greatest2BofAllTime-Danny - February 5, 1992,
165. Hellborn----------Bill Martin - November 22, 1966, Illinois
166. Aleckboy006-------------Corey - October 23, 1991
167. ReignInBlood--------------Rob - June 1, 1988, Tijuana, Mexico
168. Pete Rose Rounding Third ---- - January 20, 1975, Texas
169. Huntington Avenue - Nathan Leveille - February 15, 1991, Glocester, RI
170. Dodger Black & Blue --------- - August 7, 1984, Glendale, CA
171. Dalkowski110---------------JW - November 1, 1987, Ossining, NY
172. Padday--------Patrick Fleming - November 11, 1991, Wicklow, Ireland
173. Colin------------------------ - June 16, 1988, Houston, TX
174. Koufax HOF------------------- - United Kingdom (England)
175. Lin_Kue_Fighter--------------

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176. JeffFrancoeur7--Brandon Matics - March 9, 1995
177. Yankees2k6--------------Yani P - November 15, 1991---Jersey City, NJ
178. JordanDL3891------------Jordan - March 8, 1991, Burnt Hills, NY
179. Chickazoola----Justin McKinney - January 3, 1981, Calgary, Canada
180. MattD1972--------Matt Donnelly - November 10, 1972, Millford, PA
181. nolanryan5714-------------Dave - Dayton, TX
182. Steveironcity-Steve Antkiewicz - November 14, 1980, Pittsburgh, PA
183. Cricketfan_turned-baseball fan - Boston, MA
184. MadHatter--------------------- - Boston, MA
185. Stray Cat--------------------- - Mid-Missouri
186. DaveTheYankee-------------Dave - West Palm, FL, 1995
188. OleMissCub----------------Ryan -
189. Jbooth-------------James Booth - 1950, Gilbert, AZ
190. AlexC------------------------- - Birmingham, England
191. philkid3--------Robbie Griffin - June 7, 1985, Kennewick, WA
192. UrbanShocker13-Steve Osuchowski - November 13, 1979
193. richie hebner--------------Ray - Detroit, MI
194. gojays---------------Ian Usher - Toronto, Ontario
195. George H Ruth-----------George - June 17, 1958, New York City
196. stejay------------Steven Jones - Cleveland, OH
197. Ninja Boi------------------Jay - February, 1967, Lancashire, England
198. blacksilverfan12--Bryce Maddox - February, 13, 1990, San Luis Obispo, CA
199. keystone------------------Judy - September 13, 1946, San Antonio, TX
200. oldschoolyankee------------Ken - November 22, 1962, Franklin Town., NJ

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201. YankeeFanUK--------------Steve - August, 1965, England
202. wrigleybum-------------------- - August 3, 1989, Minneapolis, MN
203. RubeWaddell19--------------Jay - Bradford, PA
204. yeszir-------------------David - 1987, Boston, MA
205. Tenorman------------------John - May 14, 1962, Cold Lake, Alberta, Canada
206. JasonNewEra--------------Jason - February 22, 1983, Westland, MI
207. AstrosFan---------------Judson - 1982, Texas
208. giantsrule-----------Hector L. - 1987, Sacramento, CA
209. nyyfan--------------------Nick - June 10, 1993, across the river from Louisville, KY
210. Solrac---------Jeancarlos Nava - April 12, 1992, Santa Cruz, Aruba
211. ShuttlePilot--------------Jane - Wyoming
212. Domenic-------------Domenic L. - Buffalo, NY
213. 108stitches------------------- - Moose Jaw, SK, Canada
214. Allie Fox--------------------- - -1967
215. Afterglow----------------Steve - June 24, 1983, Millington, TX
216. Civil War posts
217. Tyrus4189Cobb----
218. davidsb----------------------- - -June 3, 1963
219. MyMorningJacket------------Dan - December 21, 1986
221. Brutus26------------------------ - - 1985 - Ohio
222. Heals Going Nine
223. gman5431--------------G Rizzle - Cincinnati
224. soxfan34---------------------- - Boston
225. Shea_goodbye-------------Sean - 1991

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226. ol' aches and pains--------Ken - 1949
227. BlueCrew08----Edward James Lucio - Avondale, Arizona
228. swingman24-----Chris - October 22, 1980
229. wcs71401-------John - August 18 1975
230. RSAmetsfan---------- - South Africa
231. RangerFanInNE-----Nick - Lincoln, NE, 1980
232. GoTribe --------------- - Germany, 1984
233. 3and0------------Greg Brady - 1993, Cold Lake, Alberta, Canada
234. George H Ruth-------George - Toronto, Canada
235. Francoeurstein-----Brandon Matics - March 9, 1995
236. fan--------------Chuck - 1957
240. 9RoyHobbsRF-----Cary C. - 1958, Federal Way, WA
241. Lurch------------------- - 1982, St. Louis, MO
242. NJMetfan4life---------Chris P - August 19, 1994
243. AJbaseball00024---Andrew R. Johnson - Brooklyn, NY, October 31, 1992
244. killebrewski------Jason - West Chester, PA, May 23, 1974

August, 1972: Trude Heller Dancers, Bill Burgess / Carol Fasano. Carol has always been my Muse and my idol. And my dear friend.
August, 1972: Trude Heller Dancers, Carol (Fasano) Lugo / Bill Burgess. Carol now goes by her married name, 'Carol Lugo'.
She was recently featured on 'America Got Talent', August, 2009. She was the 62 year old A & P super-market cashier from Jersey City, NJ.

March 15, 1975: Bill Burgess / former girlfriend. Inset, from my 1980 Cal. Driver's license.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1993: Bill Burgess dancing at a San Jose, CA dance club.

September, 1999: I visited my ballet teacher from the 1970's, Wilson Morelli, in his beautiful San Diego, CA condo in September, 1999. He had been living with Aids since the late 1980's. Sadly, my dear friend/teacher passed away on March 18, 2005. Wilson had run Morelli Ballet in NYC, 1963-1989. May you rest in peace, dear friend.

Three more publicity shots of me and Carol (Fasano) Lugo from Brooklyn. All from the same session, August, 1972.

I just added some photos to my original post. Hope you like them.

Those are, um, amazing? Seriously, it's fun to see you when you were young(er) and dashing. And, yeah, catcher24 is right about that mug -- you look like Koufax!

I think we should all be required to post our prom photos. Mercifully, I don't know how!

Is this the girl who refused your offer to accompany you to the prom? How come she got to wear all of the make-up? :laugh

What was this dance for? Community theater? College production? Broadway?

Oh no. The girl in the above photos was my rock dance partner. Carol Fasano. We worked at Trude Heller's in west Greenwich Village in NYC, 1972.

She had worked there previously, with 2 other fantastic male partners. This photo shoot was paid for by a generous customer, who felt we should have professional 8x10 glossy photos. We went to a private photo studio, and these are from that photo session. I'm still in touch with Carol. She's my muse.

What a great story. And so cool that y'all are still in touch with each other... Greenwich Village, huh? Very counter-cultural of you! :laugh

04-23-2005, 11:59 AM
WB-Glad to hear you made it through everything ok. I know what you mean about the thoughts of mortality, recently turned 50.

As far as my passion for baseball, I came by it by playing with my older brother and neighbors. My brother and the older neighbor brother played against me and the younger brother, my age. I still don't remember how in the world you play BB [this wasn't whiffle or corkball] with 2 players on a team, but we did. When we got a bit older, all the kids in the neighborhood would meet at a empty lot and play pick up games. We played all day in the summer and would meet after school during spring and early fall, usually switching to football games after the World Series. Played for about 6 years in local version of Little League, but always found our unsupervised games were much more fun. The older guys let us little kids play, but felt free to verbally abuse us. Toughened you up quickly and really learned how to properly and colorfully use profanity. Got turned off on bb around age 14 by a manager who was similar to Vic Morrow's character in "Bad News Bears"
Played a little in high school, but wasn't blessed with very good eye-sight, couldn't hit a curve, I was much better at football [a fullback, could really run then]

As far as MLB, what got me initially turned on was the bb cards on the back of Post Cereal boxes. Then I found out they came in gum packages!! I was a junkie for a couple of years, for the cards and that awful pink, hard gum. But I also starting paying attention to Cards radio broadcasts, with Harry Caray and Jack Buck, the greatest team ever, that my Mom usually had on. My dad took me & my brother to our first game, 7/17/62, saw Musial hit a HR to whip the Cubs. Was completely hooked. Parents would take us to Sportsman's Park about 10 times a year, usually for Sunday doubleheaders, since my dad worked most Saturdays.

Besides St. Louis, I've lived in Chicago, KC, Dallas and Atlanta, but have never wavered in my loyalty to the Cards. I'm also a passionate NFL fan, but find I have more of a league interest than devotion to one team, which has changed over the years from the Cardinals, Packers, Steelers, Dolphins, Bear, Chiefs, and Rams. I will freely admit I'm a fair weather football fan, life is too short to root for lousy teams. And I won't root for the Rams again as long as Martz is coach.

I prefer football on TV, but bb is my favorite to watch in person, although seeing the KC Chiefs at Arrowhead was special. I love the history of baseball more than any other sport and this is a great spot to share it. :D
addendum on Dad:
Well, it's Memorial Day and I'd like to thank my Dad and all the other ones who served their country. Dad was 29 when the Japs hit Pearl Harbor, he probably could have sat the war out, but enlisted and was inducted on NY Eve, 1941. He was dating my Mom and she was pissed, cause she didn't have a date that night. Served 4 years, flying in USN PBY's. Went by yesterday to Jefferson Barracks Nat. Cemetery and placed flowers on his grave yesterday. I had the privilege of being with him at the end, 2 years ago at the nursing home I stopped by and he was in very bad shape, died about 20 minutes later.

I mentioned earlier about as a kid, playing ball with older kids and first time I was playing, they stuck me in the outfield and I must have dropped or misplayed a dozen balls. was called every name in the book, came home bawling my eyes out. Told my dad what happened, on Sunday [his only day off] he took me up to the playground, told me something about watching the rotation of the ball. He wasn't much of a ballplayer, but he got me to keep my eye on the ball as he hit me fly balls for a couple of hours. I could catch a fly ball and the older guys stopped screaming at me in our sandlot games.

Thanks Dad.
addendum on Family:
Mentioning women, I hooked up with a wonderful gal about 25 years ago [still looks great,too!] and although we've had our ups and downs, still together, with 2 daughters, 18 & 15. I never had any sisters and I was talking about earlier our neighborhood, it was virtually all guys, for some reason. [Thankfully, there was a lot of gals in surrounding neighborhoods and at school] So living in a household of women has been, at times, a strange existence. They have different priorities and can't understand why I could sit and watch 6 hours of football on Sunday or why on Saturday night I would prefer to watch Fla.-FSU football game, rather than rent a movie, when I say I hate both teams. Or on weeknights, when I prefer watching the Cards game on TV to some nitwit network show. Fortunately, my wife indulges my passions for football, baseball and golf and realizes that I do require some male bonding, which usually involves meeting my buds at a bar and watching sports or going to a game.

Enjoy reading the other posts. You younger guys...man, enjoy yourselves! The time goes by so quickly and there's only so much you can see or do.
Bill, I agree BB was more popular when we were kids, not necessarily as for measurable things like attendance or TV revenue, but as for interest among kids, what they talked about, etc. I'm a traditionalist about the game, loved the old ballparks, hated AstroTurf, domes, the silly uniform trend, now I hate the pants pulled down to the shoes, not to mention the stinking over- commercialization of the game.

Spent 18 years working for a major airline that will probably file Chapter 11 in the near future. Have been a professional BS artist the last 11, in other words, sales. Maximum amount of $ for least amount of work. The airline thing enabled me to travel and see the Cards in lot of ballparks around the country.
Pet Peeves:

Ok, here's what's driving me nuts....COMMERCIALS...tv, radio, at ballgames, at movies, not to mention annoying pop-ups on my favorite web-site [HINT,HINT, BBF] I mean I could accept in the old days, watching or listening to a baseball game, there would be a minute break between innings, then back to the game and Harry Caray or Jack Buck would do a few ad-lib mentions about popping open a cold Busch or Bud, but now every single event has a sponsor tie-in, such as someone going out to visit the pitcher, or an argument with an ump, or bringing in someone from the bullpen. Not to mention all the various clutter that's shoved on the screen. In this day of the internet, do we really need the crawler on the bottom of the screen giving us every possible score? How about watching football, a team scores, kicks the PAT, then 3 minutes of commercials, kickoff [usually a touchback] 3 more minutes of commercials. I've got news for these marketing genuises,WE HAVE REMOTES!! only a brain-dead zombie would sit and pay attention to the endless ads for autos, cellphones and fast foods. Oh yeah, plus continous promos for all these new series coming up on Fox, CBS, etc.

On regular tv viewing, spend a lot of time with TCM and FMC, no commercials, which is why I rarely watch AMC anymore. Plus I subscribe to HBO and Cinemax, very same reason. Because I spend I bit of time driving during the week, got the XM sattelite radio, no ads on the music channels.

How about ads they run at ballgames? At the Rams ugly dome, they blast these things over the PA. The cheerleaders stand at solemn attention, as if they were doing the national anthem.
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Ok, I'm better now.

04-23-2005, 12:06 PM
Name: Jeremy

Age: 33

Home: born and raised in Asheville, North Carolina located in the Western NC mountains

Schooling: Candler Elementary grades 1-8
Enka High School grades 9-12
University of North Carolina at Asheville 2 years
North Carolina State University 2 years
(Degree - Masters in Business and Art)

Employment: I have helped my Mother and Father in their self-owned Antique business since I was seven and continue part time to this day. I opened my own sportscard shop in 1984 while still in school and it is my full-time business in 2005. 20+ years and still going strong.

I have been a sports fan since I was very young. Baseball, Football, Boxing and Hockey are sports I enjoy.

Hobbies: Antiques (collect vintage tin toys and vintage movie and TV Cowboy items), Sportscards, Paintball, Board games, Videogames, Comic Books, Trivia, Reading, and of course watching television

Favorite Books: Chronicles of Amber, Glory of their Times, The Name of the Rose, Grapes of Wrath, The Hobbit, True Detctive, Dirty White Boys, The Thin Man

Favorite Movies: The Searchers, The Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Natural, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Dr No, The Untouchables, Blade Runner, Yankee Doddle Dandy, Sgt. York, High Noon, The Wild Bunch, Star Wars, The Outlaw Josey Wales, The Dirty Dozen, The Omega Man, The Seven Samurai

Favorite Actors: John Wayne, William Powell, Harrison Ford, Brad Pitt, Clint Eastwood, Bob Hope, Dean Martin, Jeffery Hunter, Clint Walker, Lee Marvin, Charles Bronson, Charlton Heston, Tishiro Mifune, Cary Grant

Favorite Bands: The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, The Cure, The Eagles, Van Morrison, Smashing Pumpkins, Johnny Cash, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, Bing Crosby

Favorite Songs: Spirit in the Sky, Ring of Fire, Yellow Submarine, Paint It Black, Give Me Shelter

Favorite Athletes: Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Jim Brown, Jim Thorpe, Frank Thomas, Walter Johnson, Joe Louis, Jesse Owens, Johnny Unitas, Red Grange, John L. Sullivan, Jack Johnson, Eddie Shore, Gordie Howe, Ted Williams

Just some stuff about little ole me.

- Jeremy

I have several ex-professional athletes in my family. Baseball players and Bowlers.
I was at NC State for two years and they were productive for my degree. I am a huge NC State baseball, basketball, and football fan.

My love for baseball started in the mid 1970's watching NBC Game of the Week and listening to Mel Allen. My fondest memories are of Johnny Bench, Mike Schmidt, Hank Aaron, Tom Seaver, Joe Morgan, etc.

The name of my sportscard shop is Strike Zone.

I was able to meet Charlton Heston back in 1985 at a Planet of the Apes SciFi con in Atlanta, GA. I had my picture taken with him and he shook my hand along with an original The Omega Man movie poster autographed.

I am a Ty Cobb fan but Babe Ruth's ability to pitch and hit amaze me so my vote goes for The Babe.
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BoSox Rule
04-23-2005, 12:46 PM

Honus Wagner Rules
04-23-2005, 01:24 PM
Name: Adam

Age: 36

Location: San Jose, CA

Team Affilation: SF Giants!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

I fell in love with baseball through collecting baseball cards about 1977. I had a friend that had just moved across the street from Japan. He always talked about some Giants player named Sadaharu Oh. I grew up in a town called Watsonville which is about 95 miles south of San Francisco. I loved the Giants of course. Willie McCovey came to our Little League banquet in 1979. That was so awesome!!!

My high school years ('82-'86) were a down time for the Giants so I got chided a lot for my Giants' fan fever. In my senior yearbook one teacher referred to me as "the last of the great Giants' fans".

I went to college at Cal Poly Sate University in San Luis Obispo, CA. Immediately the Giants became good, with Will Clark, Matt Williams, and Robbie Thompson. I still remember where I was when the Giants won the NL pennant in 1989. I was washing dishes in the cafeteria on campus. I brought a radio to work and I still remember Hank Greenwald making the call (Sandberg grounded out to Thompson).

I played baseball through little league when I discovered I was a very good distance runner so I focused on that. I was really good in high school. One of my regrets was never trying out for the Cal Poly X-country team. :grouchy

I've always read books. As a kid I'd used to go to the public library and read all kinds of books including baseball books. I remember reading Honig and Ritter's baseball books. There was a book on the history of the World Series that went through the 1972 WS. I memorized every World Series Champion when I was 11 years old!

I am now a Senior Mechanical Design Engineer for Lockheed Martin in Sunnyvale, CA. (I actually start this job on May 9th) I am getting married in one week, April 30th!!

My favorite players:
Barry Bonds, Honus Wagner, Frank Thomas, Eric Davis, Rickey Henderson, Joe Morgan, Eddie Collins, Rube Wadell, Mike Schmidt, George Brett, Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Lefty Grove, Jackie Robinson, Sadaharu Oh, Yogi Berra, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays.
I ran a 2:03 800 m, 4:26 1600m, and a 9:43 3200m. Aslo ran a 35:02 10K. My track times were form 1986 and the 10 K from 1985...I am moving to San Jose next week. I work in the aerospace industry and I start a new job at Lockheed Martin in Sunnyvale next month!
Of course! So would Jim Ryun, Gerry Lindgren, and Marty Liquori. These guys were genetic freaks!! The mid 1960s was a great time for young American distance runners. It's been all down hill ever since for America. Some side info. My high School mile record was set in 1966 at 4:13. It still stands today. My high school x-country and track coach was a teammate of the record holder. He said this guy was the most gifted runner he had ever seen. He ran the 4:13 on very little training.

04-23-2005, 01:32 PM
Name: Russell

Age: 20

Home: Tacoma, Washington

Schooling: St. Martin's College, Political Science

Employment: Currently unemployed.

Hobbies: Baseball, Football, Poetry, Politics.

Favorite Movies: Clerks, Mallrats, Dogma, pretty much anything by Kevin Smith. Office Space, Marathon Man, Goodfellas, Raging Bull.

Favorite Actors: Dustin Hoffman, Tom Hanks, Jack Nicholson.

Favorite Director: Kevin Smith.

Favorite Bands: The Beatles, John Lennon (Solo), Johnny Cash, Nirvana, Dropkick Murphys, Green Day, Jimi Hendrix Experience, REM.

Favorite Songs: Happy Christmas, End of the World, American Idiot, Lithium, Hurt (Cash version), A Boy name Sue, and anything ANYTHING by Jimi.

Favorite Athletes: Carl Yastrzemski, Pat Borders (real life Crash Davis), Steve Prefontaine, Steve Largent, Tom Brady, John Kitna, Rocky Marciano.

04-23-2005, 01:37 PM
OK, here goes:

Name: Geoff
Age: 27
Born: June 5, 1977 in Indianapolis, Indiana
Moved to Weston, Missouri in 1983. Now live in Platte City, MO.

I have my brother to thank for my interest in baseball. My bro played a lot of Little League and in High School. He was never much of a hitter, but was an excellent fielder.
Me? I was NEVER much of an athlete when I was a kid, mostly because I wasn't interested in sports when I was in grade school, so I never practiced. I was always the smallest kid in my class. My interest in sports grew as I got older, but I never possessed any special athletic ability. I participated in Track and Wrestling in High School. I was a decent sprinter in Track. I only wrestled for 1 year, cuz rolling around on the mat with sweaty guys didn't suit my fancy.
Following High School, I began working out vigorously, and added 40 lbs of muscle to my frame. I now weigh 155 lbs with 5% body fat. I used to weigh 115 lbs in High School. No wonder I was always picked on! :o
I now attend college at Missouri Western State College in St. Joseph, MO. I started in 1999, and am pursuing a Communications degree with a scriptwriting emphasis. I am not currently going this semester, as money's kinda tight right now. I enjoy writing stories and scripts, and am currently (slowly) working on a project that I hope will turn into a movie or TV series someday.

My interest in baseball grew over the years playing computer simulation games with my brother, and I fell in love with baseball statistics. Baseball is NOT my favorite sport to watch! Football and basketball are much more exciting to watch. I do NOT watch today's baseball games. Some of the reason is cuz I lost interest in it with the strike of '94 and am losing more interest by the year as more players take roids. There has also been no player in recent history that is truly captivating, like Michael Jordan in basketball or Jerry Rice and Barry Sanders in football. But in terms of history and statistics, baseball is by far the most interesting sport, and that is why it captivates me, and that is why I'm here on Baseball Fever. I mostly enjoy comparing players, debating who's better, and creating all-time Dream Teams.

Employment: I am currently working at a fitness center in Platte City, training people to work out and get in shape. I'm only working 25 hours a week, though, and am seeking better employment.

Hobbies: Working out, Writing, Surfing the web and Baseball Fever :D , Swimming, Videogames, Watching TV, Reading, Big-Boned Women :D

Favorite Movies: Back to the Future Trilogy, American Graffiti, Indiana Jones Trilogy, Star Wars Trilogy, Jaws, Field of Dreams, The Natural, Somewhere in Time (I like that one too, Bill!), Big Trouble in Little China, Rocky I thru V, Rambo I thru III, The Exorcist, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Superman I & II, and the list goes on and on!

Favorite TV Shows: Wonder Years, Honeymooners, Incredible Hulk, Quantum Leap, Family Ties, Three's Company, Star Trek (original series)

Favorite Songs: Beat It, Real American (Hulk Hogan's theme song in the 80's), Hurts So Good, Satisfaction, Back In Black, You Shook Me All Night Long, Flashdance, I Love Rock 'n' Roll, All I Need, Jailhouse Rock, If I Can Dream (from Elvis' 68 Comeback Special)

Favorite Musical Artist: Elvis Presley - I was raised on him by my mother. He is my favorite entertainer, period! Other musical artists I like are the Rolling Stones, Motown from the 60's, Led Zeppelin, John Cougar Mellencamp, Michael Jackson (in the 80's), Rick Springfield, Van Halen, AC/DC, Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, U2, Duran Duran, Hall & Oates, and the list goes on and on! As you can see, I'm heavily slanted towards 80's music, but Elvis is the King and my all-time fave!

Favorite Actors: Sylvester Stallone, Kurt Russell, Michael J. Fox, Mel Gibson, Elvis, Harrison Ford, AH-nold Schwarzenegger, Jackie Chan

Favorite Athletes: Michael Jordan, Babe Ruth, Jerry Rice, Barry Sanders, Hulk Hogan

Favorite Superheroes: As my avatar suggests - Superman! Also, the Incredible Hulk, and Wonder Woman (hubba hubba) :D

Favorite Sports: WWF Wrestling in the 80's - Hands down the most entertaining sport ever! :D Today's wrestling sucks!
Oh yes, and there's baseball (old-time baseball), football and basketball.

Favorite Sports teams: Football - Indianapolis Colts, since I was born there. Used to like Montana-and-Rice-led 49ers, and Sanders-led Lions. Basketball - Chicago Bulls, specifically the Jordan-led Bulls. Baseball - since I don't watch today's game, NONE. Used to be the Royals in the 80's. College football and basketball - Notre Dame and Indiana!

My birth state of Indiana and birthtown of Indianapolis will always remain special in my heart! I'm a Hoosier and proud of it!
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That's all I can think of right now!

04-23-2005, 02:48 PM
Name: Mark
Age: 45
Born: Michigan, about 50 miles north of Detroit
Now Live: Washington, about 85 miles south of Seattle
Education: History degree from University of Hawaii
Employment: Spent some time in the Navy after college and retired from the Navy Reserve last year. Manage a drug store now.
Hobbies: I used to read alot (mostly fantasy genre and , of course, baseball history, references and novels) , but most of the that time now goes to BBF. Gardening in the summer. Movies in the offseason or offdays/day games during the season. Fortunately, my wife is a baseball fan also - although not a fan of all the time I spend here. I've got 2 year old and 2 month old granddaughters who get most of my free time when I'm not with you guys and sometimes the 2 year old helps me with my posts.
Baseball background: I grew up a Tigers fan. My father and grandfathers were all fans. We went to a few games a year and watched or more often listened (there were only a dozen or so televised games a year in those days) to mst of the rest. Strongest early baseball memory was being at the park for Denny Mclain's 30th win in 1968. Besides being a Tigers fan, I collected cards (a hobby that didn't follow me into adulthood) and played Strat-O-Matic. As some you know, SOM has been replaced by Diamondmind as my game of choice in the computer age.
--I played Little League and American Legion ball and watched from the bench in junior college, but had more love than talent for the game. I was actually better at basketball, but wasn't exactly Micheal Jordan there either.
--I haven't lived in Tigers country for over 20 years and they haven't been an easy team to follow long distance for awhile. I lived in Japan for a few years and Hawaii for longer and didn't really watch alot of baseball in those years. I've lived in Washington since 1995 and the Mariners gradually displaced the Tigers as my team. My wife is a big M's fan and we don't miss many games, although we only get to the park in person a few times a year.
addendum on Family:
--Bill, I have 2 granddaughters ages 2 years and 2 months. My son is 23. I do feel a little guilty sometimes about the amount of time I spend here, but there are alot of worse vices I could have (and some that I used to in my younger days).
--I share your enjoyment of the Dune series (the books, moreso than the movie versions) and the original Star Wars trilogy. Liked the Lord of the Rings movies even more than the books. Best books I've read recently are George RR Martin's "Song of Fire and Ice" series, of which he is a year behind schedule on the latest (and conclusion?).
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04-23-2005, 03:39 PM
Well 1st I am a big Star Wars fan as well Bill, I love the games and such and as a kid, I built Star Destroyers and landscapes with cardboard boxes to go with my action figures (I sold the action figures about the time of the announcement of The Phantom Menace for around 5K)

Ok - On to my very fast mini-bio.

Born in '75.
Grew up VERY poor, and excelled at athletics and was an honor student until puberty when baseball and women became my loves and school work slipped.
My Mom started drinking heavily after marrying my step father, maybe something to do with thinking he would leave...the man was in love with her and 30 years later he is still with her.

Had my 1st. son in '92 at age 17, mother stopped drinking 4 years later when she met him, I call him her Guardian Angel.

A scout came to look at a pitcher we had (Justin Gardner) but was not impressed by his mechanics, and noticed that I called an excellent game, showed him my notes on every one of our opponents and he asked me to come to Mets Rookie Camp during the summer.
Went to Mets Rookie Camp at the end of June, '93.
Met the fabulous 3 (Bill Pulshipher, Isringhusen and Wilson) Pulshiper was a jerk, but this year I would find we suffered from the same mental illness. Mets had a Catcher by the name of Todd Hundley (who only I thought I was better then...and well look now) and so my lite bat, and my wanton to get HBP and walk more then hit was my undoing (only 1 player stole on me in that trial and it was with a man on 3rd). So my defense was spot on...but realized with technology my strength was not a strength at that level...
I hit around .180 with 5 HBP and Pulsipher made me look real silly once.

Joined the Army in August of 1993, at the completion of Boot Camp was sent to Somalia, 2 months after Black Hawk Down...was shot in the left knee, half of my knee is plastic, received Purple Heart and instead of medical discharge got Pool PT and recuperated. Sent to Haiti in '94, Panama in '95, and if I reupped would have been sent to Ft. Bragg and sent to Bosnia instead of Japan where I wanted to go. (A sailor and Marine raped a woman in Okinawa around this time and we had to move our base to an offshore oil rig, maybe some of you remember this.)

Was married in 1994, divorced in '99.

Second Son was born in '98.

Have custody of both my boys.

Worked in various jobs but landed a job at Sealy as HR/Payroll Manager, and thus started my Payroll, HR, Accountant twisting career.

Moved to TX around 2001 or around there, met a woman who played me like a violin and got pregnant in order to collect 18 years of child support (her actions after the pregnacy dictates no other motive.)
So I have 2 sons and a daughter I probably will never see.

In 2003 moved back to NY, my career in shatters....went back to school, and my Stocks have plummeted (had Krispy Kreme stock..yah !) so now I am looking for work.

Recently the Tri City Valley Cats wanted me to tryout, but I can't see myself making a living at my age in the Minors with 2 kids and a child support payment.

Oh and my sons did not take after me in athletic ability, but my youngest has my terrible perfectionist trait.

umm for Music, I like songs more than Artists.
Books, I like The Face by Koontz and Bang the Drum slowly by L'Armour (one of his rare non-western titles).

Baseball book - I am a business guy, so I like the "Economics of Baseball".

I don't like football, basketball all that much, even though with all my anger issues I was quite the MLB in High School, and 6th man in B-ball they were just frustrating to me...Fouls in basketball and penalties in football (yea I was sort of a dirty player). Baseball was one game where the rules fitted me...if a guy tried to bowl me over a pop in the nose with my glove and the ball would make sure he wouldn't do it again...hard slide into second was a given with me.

Favorite Players
Sherry Magee
George Cutshaw
Ty Cobb
Juan Samuel
Garry Maddox
Pepper Martin
Rube Waddell

I guess that's it for me, unless someone knows of any Accounting jobs to offer me :)
Well it also shows where some of my weaknesses come into play.
I get along fine with you Bill...(after all I've been through, discussing whether Negro League players were HOF worthy or just decent ballplayers is not a life or death argument) but do NOT change your way of debating me...this is the ONLY Forum I have found that I love for the sake of all involved (yes even RMB and his needling) and wouldn't want anyone to change their perception of how to deal with me because my life has basically stunk. That would be pity, and I never needed that.

I do find I have more patience and open mindeness for my elders and contemporaries then I do for a pseudo-wise 22 year old that thinks they have figured it all out. In fact I despise those people...and will be very blunt in saying so (college was a headache this year) I do have to work on that, and I also realize I am the type of person you either love or hate and there is no in-between.

But I don't expect or want any more respect because of my life, I am quite anti-authority myself after the Army, and was one of the many that spoke out on the War in Iraq, and realized that the Terrorist Attacks of 9-11 did come from how our government treats them as a whole (not exactly well received by blind patriots in this country).

As for the women, well, because of my home life, I always wanted the stable 30 year marriage full of compromise, understanding and perhaps sacrificing excitement for stability, which has led to wrong and hasty decisions. I realize after the last one, it just is not going to happen...but what can ya do?

Even Superman had a weakness, mine is the women I choose.

04-23-2005, 04:22 PM
My real name is Roger. Born in Chicago (far South Side) in 1935 (I will turn 70 this summer!). Went to Catholic grade school and high school in Chicago, then to Johns Hopkins Univ, majoring in Engineering. (Some of my best friends became doctors, but I could never stand the sight of blood.)

During WWII we always played "War" with the enemy being the "gang" on the other end of our block. I was the leader of "Roger's Gang" but that all ended when the war ended -- and my good friend Marty moved to Chicago from New Jersey. We were in sixth grade.

He taught me and others to play sports -- mostly baseball and football. We all became White Sox fans but in those days we all needed a "backup" team that actually contended for the pennant. Marty's backup was the DiMaggio and the Yankees, mine was Williams, Stephens and the Red Sox. Others like the Musial and the Cardinals. But we all hated the Cubs!

My Dad was a great baseball fan and told me lots of stories about the teams of old -- especially Babe Ruth and the Yankees. He also took me and a couple friends to one or two White Sox games each year but I didn't have much interest until sixth grade (when Marty moved into our neighborhood).

Our gang (I remained the nominal leader but at least five or six were better players than I was) played pickup ball against others kids our age until 8th grade. Then in high school (and when I was home from college in the summer) we played in park leagues. We played slow-pitch softball on Tuesday and Friday nights, then fast pitch BASEBALL on Sundays. We were a great team in softball, usually playing against teams with players in their late 20's or early 30's -- and we usually scored lots of runs and won the league. But baseball on Sunday was different -- we had two good pitchers and a pretty good fielding team, but rarely scored. We won some games by 1-0 or 2-1 but also lost 2-1 or 3-1. We never scored more than one or two runs in a game -- usually with Marty getting on first, stealing second and then advancing on ground outs. I both baseball and softball I played second base and Marty was shortstop. I tried out for our varsity baseball team in college -- but after I ducked from an inside fastball they could get me out easily on curve balls.

About six of us from our softball team formed a league with APBA baseball teams (the APBA MAster Game) and that's where I started my interest in baseball history.

I was married shortly after graduating from college. 48th Anniversary later this year! We have six children (3 boys, 3 girls) and nine grandchildren.
Most of my life I worked in "Quality": Quality Control Engineer, Quality Manager, Reliability Manager, Director of Quality. I worked for only two companies but was transferred a number of times. We have lived in Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, Oklahoma City, and San Antonio. Some of those places more than once. Now retired and living in Oklahoma.

Favorite sports movies: Monty Stratton Story; Pride of the Yankees; the Natural.

Favorite music: almost anything from the 1950's. Very little music that I like after the mid-1970's.

Major interest here is college football.

For those who haven't already done so, I'd like to re-invite all here to mention their Dads/Moms. Was your Dad/Mom your hero/heroine?

Also pet peeves, or what drives you nuts!. Also, your kids, anything more on music, etc. After a little while, I'll add your addenums to your original bios.
Most fitting that I should read this post today (Feb 1). My hero was my Dad, and if he were still alive today would be his 96th birthday. From what others have told me, Dad was a good athlete in his younger days but I remember him only as a scratch-handicap golfer. He would almost always win our church annual golf tournament, and as a city policeman he several times won the Longest Drive contest of their annual tournament. He actually had low gross at the police tournament only once or twice -- but if he could putt like a pro he could have been a pro golfer. The week he died (at age 65, after suffering a severe stroke the year before) he player 18 holes on Monday, 18 holes on Wednesday, and then was hit with congestive heart failure when he got home Wednesday afternoon. He died the next morning.

Dad was ten years old during the 1919 World Series, and the stories he told me of that event pretty well match the story of "Eight Men Out". Living on the South Side of Chicago at that time, Dad's personal hero was Buck Weaver, whom he remembered as possibly the best third-baseman ever. (Either Buck Weaver or Pie Traynor.) Dad helped me appreciate baseball history because he made it live for me.

I first came to appreciate baseball stats as a kid by playing the "Ethan Allen All-Star Baseball Game" -- but even more after my freshman year of college when I ordered my first set of APBA. I bought what was perhaps the very first edition of that game in Fall 1953 or Spring 1954. When I returned home the following summer, four friends and I organized and played a league using the "APBA Master Game" and their All-Time Great Teams. We played baseball on Sunday, slow pitch softball on Tuesday and Friday nights, and APBA the other nights of the week. My team was the 1934 St. Louis Cardinals. Until then I never heard of Ripper Collins!

I have three sons (adults now, of course) and the younger two are still great fans of baseball. Besides playing themselves in high school, they are avid fans of baseball stats and trivia. They learned their grade school arithmetic thru their working with baseball stats. When my younger boys were in 3rd and 5th grade I bought them their first APBA Master Game, and they loved it. They found a use of baseball stats! The game formed the foundation of their understanding of sabermetrics today.

Their older brother "Mike" was in 9th grade at that time, but by then his time was fully occupied with music: school band (French horn); school orchestra (cello) -- and he formed a combo group that played in restaurants in suburban Pittsburgh. In that group Mike played guitar and banjo. (Mike quit playing baseball in sixth grade when I -- as a designated parent-umpire -- called him out on a pitch he still insists was NOT A STRIKE!) Mike also composed music, and his middle-school had a concert "featuring the music of Paul Simon and (my son) Mike. He later earned a full tuition scholarship to college, majoring in voice.

04-23-2005, 08:14 PM
Name: John
Age: 13, almost 14
Live In: New Hampshire

Favorite Sports: Baseball, Football, Basketball, Hockey

Favorite Films (In Order Of Greatness): The Exorcist, Pulp Fiction, The Godfather, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, The Empire Strikes Back, Halloween, The Terminator, This Is Spinal Tap, Silence of the Lambs, Dirty Harry, The French Connection, South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut, Waiting For Guffman, Animal House, Rushmore, Chinatown

Favorite Directors: Wes Anderson, Martin Scorsese, Quentin Tarantino, Christopher Guest

Favorite Actors/Actresses: Jack Nicholson, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Marlon Brando, Lee Marvin, David Cross, Jeffrey Tambor, Kate Winslet, Uma Thurman, Natalie Portman

Favorite TV Shows: 24, South Park, The Simpsons, Arrested Development, Family Guy, Seinfeld

Favorite Musicians: Bruce Springsteen, The Rolling Stones, The Clash, The Velvet Underground, Chuck Berry, The Sex Pistols, Bob Dylan, The Who, U2, The Shins, Green Day, Ray Charles, LCD Soundsystem

Favorite Athletes(Non baseball): Jim Brown, Bill Russell, Larry Bird, Tom Brady, Terrell Davis, Tedy Bruschi, Ladanian Tomlinson, Joe Montana, Shaquille O'Neal, Ray Bourque

Favorite Baseball Players: Curt Schilling, David Ortiz, Ted Williams, Yaz, Willie Mays, Pumpsie Green, Jackie Robinson, Babe Ruth, Jeff Bagwell, Frank Thomas, Kevin Millar
At 12, I started to really apprectiate cinematic artistry in film. Before then, I'll admit I fell for those "popcorn flicks" with little, if any, real story or true characters, but just with many explosions. However, after seeing "Pulp Fiction" on AMC, which, along with the TV show "24", is my prime inspiration for wanting to go into directing/screenwriting film and television, I began to fully appreciate the greatness of film. Most all of my favorite films of all time, most of them universally critically acclaimed, I saw after age 12, so that was a turning point in my life, I think. I began to realize that film can be a true form of artistic greatness and power, and I think, despite being lofty expectations, that's what I want to do with my life. I just love film, and in my honest opinion, it tells stories greater than books. I really like gangster films, and films that aren't "Hollywood fare", that have implausible instances for the sake of the audience. Truth be told, I love James Bond films, at least the best of the bunch, but I also like films like "Chinatown", where not everything goes the way of the protagonist. Hollywood has lost sight of what makes films great, and I want to help change that. I'd love to see Hollywood return to the way it was in the 1970s, when directors were taking chances and consistently making great films. I know I'll probably have to leave my many friends and family to go to the City of Angels to reach my goal, but I think it's going to be worth it. I saw that you like many foreign directors, such as Fellini and Bunuel (I was surprised to not see Truffaut or Godard with the bunch), and although I haven't really seen any foreign films, I'd like to see "Rififi" and "Bob Le Flambeur", two 1950s seminal foreign gangster films, sometime.

04-24-2005, 09:18 AM
Just a little not about me.

Born in Philadelphia, May 11, 1965 - I'm looking at the big 4-0 in a few weeks.

Simmons Elementary School, Horsham PA until 2nd grade which technically should have been first grade, however they skipped me to the second grade for the academic achievement.

Avalon Elementary School, Avalon NJ 2nd grade to 8th grade. My parents moved to the Jersey shore in '72 and we lived there full time for eight years. My Dad taught at Wildwood High School and coached baseball and basketball. During the summer, my parents ran a guest house, kind of like a bed and breakfast without the breakfast. I ended up doing 2nd grade twice to get me back on my age level. While living in Avalon, I learned that I would never be a pro ballplayer when I couldn't get off the scrub team in Little League.

Hatboro-Horsham High School, Horsham PA, class of '83. In '80 we moved back to suburban Philly and I managed to letter in baseball three years in a row while serving as statistician and equipment manager.

Grove City College, Grove City PA, class of '87 B.A. in history and political science

Duquesne University, Pittsburgh PA, class of '90 M.A. in History with a concentration in Museum Studies. While there I wrote a paper on the formation of the National League and how it correlated to the more general trend in American Big Business. This is where I became really aware of William Hulbert. While living in Western PA I became a temporary fan of the Pirates and got to know Three Rivers Stadium quite well. I also met my wife in Grad School. We now have three girls ages 14, 11, and 3 months.

After I graduated from Duquesne, I worked for about a year at Bushy Run Battlefield, a French and Indian War battle site about 45 miles east of Pittsburgh. I then moved to Eckley Miners' Village, a restored coal mining company town outside of Hazleton PA on the western fringe of the Pocono Mountains. I directed all the educational programs there. one of the prgrams I introduced to the museum was the game of townball, an 1850's precursor to baseball. There was an annual game held to show the public what the game was like. I worked at Eckley until 2000.

In April 2000, I moved to Goldsboro NC to take a job as a teacher. I am currently teaching eighth grade social studies and science.

Many of you may have seen me in September of 2002 when I was a one-day champ on Jeopardy! I won $29,801 on that one- day.

Other personal notes -

Music - Classic rock, classical, show tunes (curse you, Mom!)

Movies - Sci Fi, but interested in all genres. Stanley Kubrick and Terry Gilliam are among the best directors ever

Huge fan of the Hitchhikers Guide and Monty Python

The Dude
04-24-2005, 11:53 AM
Age: 25
Home: Born in Milwaukee, WI, but currently living in Appleton, WI

Schooling: Kimberly High School Alumni (2006). Attended University of Wisconsin - Oshkosh for 3 years before deciding it wasn't for me.

My passion for baseball comes from being in a family whom loves baseball and living in a city that loves baseball.

Work: Cellular Business Accounts Manager

Hobbies: Writing. Baseball.

Favorite Books: Lord of the Rings, The Great Gatsby, The Gunslinger, Wizard and Glass.

Favorite Movies: The Big Lebowski, No Country For Old Men, The 3rd Man, The Big Sleep, The Seventh Seal, Inglorious ********, Pulp Fiction, In the Mood for Love, The Good The Bad and the Ugly, The Dark Knight, Sin City,

Favorite Bands: Franz Ferdinand (Post-Punk Revival), The Avett Brothers (Alternative Bluegrass/Folk), Wilco (Alternative Country) & Pink Floyd (Psychedelic/Progressive Rock),

Favorite Type of Music: Post-Punk, Post-Punk Revival, Alt-Country, Bluegrass, Bebop, Big Band

Favorite MLB Players: Richie Ashburn, Albert Pujols, Ryan Braun, Roy Halladay, Roy Oswalt, Joe Mauer, Craig Counsell, Mike Schmidt, Dustin Pedroia, Tim Wakefield, Jason Varitek, Randy Johnson

Favorite NHL Players: Sergai Fedorov, Marc Savard, Zdeno Chara, Teamu Selanne, Tuukka Rask, Miroslav Satan, Chris Pronger, Bobby Orr, Ray Bourque

Favorite NBA Players:Rajon Rondo, Paul Pierce, Larry Bird, Bill Russell, Ray Allen, Andrew Bogut, Carlos Delfino, Chris Anderson, Dirk Nowitzki, Dennis Rodman.

Favorite NFL Players: Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Teddy Bruschi, Ben Watson, Mike Alstott, Drew Bledsoe, Adrian Peterson, Tim Tebow.

Favorite Actors: Sean Bean, Robert De Niro, Mark Wahlberg, Humphrey Bogart, Tony Leung, Jeff Bridges, Clive Owen.

Favorite Actresses: Lauren Bacall, Parker Posey, Kate Winslet.

Favorite Directors: Joel & Ethan Coen, Stanley Kubrick, Wong Kar Wai, Sergio Leone, Quentin Tarantino, Judd Apatow.

Favorite Sports Film: In my opinion, I believe Field of Dreams is THE greatest sports film of all time. To me, it speaks volumes about what baseball is to people. Baseball isn't just a sport like basketball or football. Baseball is to us as Soccer is to the rest of the world. As a child the first thing I learned about was baseball from my parents and my family. Maybe one of the reasons I love Field of Dreams, is the final scene in the film where Ray gets to have that game of catch with his dad. Unfortunately, due to injuries my dad suffered, I've never been able to play a game of catch with him. Even today, every sunday night me, my sisters, my brother in law, and my parents gather on sunday to watch the Brewers in the afternoon and then watch sunday night baseball on ESPN. I think Field of Dreams isn't just about the sport of baseball, like so many sports movies are. So many sports movies just use the sport (wether it be hockey, baseball, football, or basketball) to get a message across or to teach a lesson or tell a story. However, it is Field of Dreams that stands out at the end, as a love letter to the game, it's history, and everything baseball means to everyone who has ever appreciated as much as the people on this forum.
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04-24-2005, 08:09 PM
Age: 25
Occupation: Attorney
Location: New York

Favorite ballplayers: P. Martin, B. Martin, D. Dean, R. Waddell, R. Hornsby, D. Jeter, D. Strawberry

Favorite movies:: Anything 90's neo-noir (Tarrantino movies, Se7en, Fight Club, etc.); anything with Jimmy Cagney

Favorite Rock Bands: Nirvana, Radiohead, Hendrix, CCR, Smiths

Favorite Rock CD's: Don't really go by CD's, go with songs

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: CCR Chronicle

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jim Thorpe, Jesse Owens, Joe Louis, Barry Sanders, Michael Jordan, Carl Lewis

Favorite Basketball Players: Allen Iverson, Bill Laimbeer, Isiah Thomas, LeBron James, Ben Wallace

Favorite Football Runners: Barry Sanders, nobody else close

Favorite Movie Directors: Tarrantino, Hitchcock

Favorite Books:
Lolita, Vladimir Nabakov
Tale of Two Cities, Charles Dickens
The Castle, Franz Kafka

Favorite Rock Geniuses: Kurt Cobain

Favorite Rock Voices: Janis Joplin, Joan Baez, Maynard Keenan (Tool, A Perfrect Circle), Thom Yorke (Radiohead), John Fogerty

Men I admire of the 20th Century: Keynes (economist), FDR, Michael Collins (Irish revolutionary), Lyndon Johnson

Technically Best-Made Movies: Silence of the Lambs (best acting ever)

Favorite Rock Tunes:
Brick, Ben Folds Five
Paint it Black, Rolling Stones
Maggie's Farm, Bob Dylan
Where Did You Sleep Last Night, as done by Nirvana
Folsom Prison Blues, Johnny Cash
Never met my father, never got along with my mother. My grandmother raised me, and was (still is, at almost 82) a saint of a woman.
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four tool
04-25-2005, 06:05 AM
Mark Szymcik 06/09/1949,

Saving the BB stuff for last.

Grew up in Winchendon, MA. Live in Worcester MA.

Had Hemilitic anemia when i was 2, which made me pretty useless playing sports.
Ordained Catholic priest in 1975, left in 1998, Married 1999
Music: Van Morrison, Beatles, Bare Naked Ladies, Byrds, Neil Young, Dylan, Jimmy Buffet, Grateful Dead, Little Feat, Jefferson Airplane, Nora Jones, Avril Lavigne
Books: History, Science Fiction, (favorite living: Howard Waldrop favorite all time:Tolkien) Sports.

Grew up with everyone singing the praises of Ted Williams, followed BB through the newspapers and SI in the library.

First MacMillian Encyclopedia(1969) was an eye opener. Checked HR list, saw Musial just below Gehrig then looked at ABs and started number crunching! Been dealing with stats ever since.

Old enough to have lived through every Red Sox postseason since 1967.Still get goosebumps when I hear the replay of the final play of the 2004 series--it may sink in someday.

Been to Fenway, Wrigley, Shea, New Comiskey, Griffith, Old Baltimore Memorial

Buddy and I went to Chicago once and saw 4 games in 3 days, two at each stadium.

Been to more minor league games in Pawtucket lately than ML games.
Am a practicing married Catholic priest--just not practicing in Catholic churches.

I can understand the removal of the ten commandments from the courthouse for a couple of reasons. If they stayed, then because of church/state separation rules, the Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu etc equivalents would also need to be displayed. The whole point of the constitution is to allow freedom for all religions, not to push any one religion or even one religious tradition.

Every religion has the equivalent of the golden rule, IMHO that is what should be posted in public buildings because it covers everyone and even applies to agnostics and atheists.

Anyone who wants to debate religion feel free to email me at mszymcik@verizon.com. I am a very liberal Christian because I focus on Jesus, not on a denomination's take on Jesus. I'm convinced Jesus would not support right wing Christianity any more than He would support the over-regulated churches like the Catholic Church.
Addendum on Mom/Dad:
DAD/MOM: - Dad was one of my heroes, besides the usual stuff, he also taught us to think. 1962 during the Cuban missile crisis, I was cheering Kennedy on (I was in 8th grade) about getting the missiles out of Cuba. Dad said, "We have missiles in Turkey, what's the difference?" And any time he helped with homework, he asked, "But what does it mean?"

Mom raised 7 kids and always kept her sense of humor. One time she told me to stop sitting on my brother and to get up. As I started to rise after getting off Scott, she sat on me.

PET PEEVES: Too many to list: poorly designed websites and user manuals, teachers who believe in busy work, litterbugs, anyone with a major stake in poor companies, ISPs, etc.
People I admire:

Anyone who can successfully think outside the box:

Robert E. Lee for Chancellorsville et al
U.S. Grant for the Vicksburg manuvers
Napoleon, Hannibal, --lots of generals--I love military history
FDR for trying everything to break the great depression
Jackie Robinson
Amenhotep--first non hebrew Monotheist on record and well before most Hebrews were montheists

Anyone who says I can too--despite race, gender, etc.

Amelia Earhart
Jackie Robinson (yes, both lists)

favorite baseball people, in no order at all

Pedro Martinez--what an incredible record pitching in Fwnway
Teddy Ballgame
The Babe
The Georgia Peach
Earl Weaver
Big Papi
Phat Albert--best hitter since The Splinter
Walter Johnson--how could he win so much playing for the Senators? If he pitched for the Yankees he probably would have broken Cy's win record!
Branch Rickey for breaking the color barrier
Josh Gibson
Bill "spaceman" Lee
Charlie Finley
Bill Veeck

Casey Stengal
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Bill and everyone,

I've been teaching teens and yound adults since 2000, and every class has some (note the some, not just one) students who are aware of the Beatles, Hendrix, Clapton, Doors, etc. They all think of them as groups/musicians for the ages, and the fact I saw most of them in their prime--not the Beatles, alas!--gives me lots of credibility in their eyes.

Mark & the Mrs. Who knew he was such a handsome cuss?

Captain Cold Nose
04-25-2005, 06:23 AM
Why not?

Name: Scott
Age: 34
Born: Detroit. Residing in Kettering (Dayton), Ohio.
Occupation: Corporate trainer for large information database. It's how you know. Disc Jockey-services for hire, with trivia my specialty.

Education: West Bloomfield, Michigan public schools. BA-Central Michigan University. MA-Wright State University.

Baseball:Ingrained. My grandfather worked at Tiger Stadium for 40+ years as "the pencil guy". Went to countless games growing up, also spent much time reading all the baseball books he would bring home from his bookstore.

Favorite players: Yaz, George Foster, Lou Gehrig, Ted Williams, Kent Hrbek, Roberto Clemente

Interests outside of baseball: Music, (jazz and rock what I listen to, but as a DJ, I need to listen to everything.) US History, with focus on Presidents, sports in general, books, movies. Road trips.

Favorite musical acts: John Coltrane, The Replacements, Art Blakey, Miles Davis, Led Zeppelin, Reverend Horton Heat

Favorite movies: Pulp Fiction, Glengarry Glen Ross, Soldier in the Rain, Wild Bunch, It's in the Bag, Napoleon Dynamite

Favorite actors: Steve McQueen, Humphrey Bogart, John Wayne, William H. Macy, Marx Brothers

Favorite Authors: Robert Ludlum, Ken Follet, John Steinbeck, Henry James, Douglas Adams, Harry Kemelman, Dick Francis, Loren Estleman

Childhood celebrity crush: Cheryl Ladd

Philosophy: Who am I to judge anybody?

"I've got no idols" Juliana Hatfield.
addendum on Dad:
It's from my father that I have inherited my work ethic. He worked his way through school in the Buffalo cage at the Detroit Zoo, a job he kept for a couple years after he got on at Chrysler, where he retired in a management role after some thirty years. I might not have appreciated it then, but his hard work helped put two kids through college. I'm not fond of admitting it, but I am starting to become like him as I enter middle age. I certainly have a lot more respect for him, even traveling with him to places like Cooperstown and Gettysburg. Wouldn't have dreamed of doing that ten years ago, that's for sure. I've even started to develop his fear of driving in high places, like bridges and mountains.
Pet peeves, eh?
Discourteous drivers are my biggest pet peeve. All the states I have driven to seem to have one particualr bad habit that stands out, although bad driving is everywhere. Tailgating to failure to use a turn signal to stopping to turn right or moving halfway into the right lane while turning left.
I cringe when I hear someone say anyways. No such word. And a lot is two words, not the combined alot.
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04-25-2005, 06:59 AM
1953 in Brockton, MA (just south of Boston)
Arboretum Director (I get to watch trees grow - love it)
Married 30 years to the same wonderful woman (lucky man!)
2 kids (adopted)
University of Maine - Wildlife & Forestry '76
Lived in Maine ever since but fairly well traveled
Cut my teeth on Red Sox - came of age as a fan in 1967
Played mostly sandlot ball as a kid, softball as an adult
Was a better bicyclist than ballplayer and used to race
Favorite ballplayers:
Jackie - the one player I admire above all others
Yaz - worked hard to be better than his natural ability
Tony Pena - played with pure joy
Bob Gibson - played with pure fire
Honorable mention - Fisk, Williams, Tony C., Boomer Scott
Active players - Jeter, Damon, Schilling
When I was a kid, we played ball every chance we had in a vacant lot behind a neighborhood grocery. There were no adults, no umpires, no organization just a love of the game that I just don't see in kids today. Maybe because we grew up poor and it was all we had.

04-25-2005, 07:44 AM
Why am I a baseball fan? In 1975 when I was 7 years old my family moved from north of Boston to north of Cincinnati. Again, it was 1975. The world series between my 2 'home teams' was, and is, the best of my lifetime (I know, '91 was better, but not for me). All ball players are larger than life when you're 7, but that series had Perez, Morgan, Rose, Bench, Concepcion, Yaz, Lynn, Fisk, Petrocelli, Tiant, Bill Lee, game 6, etc, etc, etc. Great players, great games, great series. I've been a fan ever since.

'76 - Reds sweep Phillies in 3, Yankees in 4. First series with the DH, Reds use only 9 hitters in the entire series (8 regulars, plus Driessen at DH).
'90 - arrogant A's fans show up at the airport with brooms. Reds sweep A's.
'05 - I'm not ashamed to say I cried when Keith Foulke threw to first for the final out.

stats are fun, what-ifs are fun and baseball has the best history of any sport (the best history of anything short of war), but I'm a baseball fan because of playoffs and world series.
not to make anyone feel old, but I was born in the summer of '67 (and I know I'm old)

04-25-2005, 07:53 AM
I'm kinda new here, so I'll throw this up...


27 years old.

Originally from Pittsburgh, PA. Now live in Arlington, VA (just outside DC).

I'm an Enterprise/Software Engineer for a company that contracts out to the US military.

Graduated from Penn State University in 1999 with a BS degree in Management Science and Information Systems. Before that, I went to Woodland Hills High School, located in the east suburbs of Pittsburgh.

I follow and enjoy a ton of sports, but my favorites are baseball, hockey, college and pro football, and boxing. I'm a huge fan of all Pittsburgh professional sports (Pirates, Penguins, Steelers) and Penn State football. I hate the Pitt Panthers. :D

Favorite baseball players (past): Dizzy Dean, Jimmie Foxx, Honus Wagner, Ty Cobb, Joe Jackson, and Ted Williams.

Favorite baseball players (present): Oliver Perez, Jason Bay, Jim Thome, and Todd Helton.

Favorite hockey players (past and present): Steve Yzerman, Mario Lemieux, Mike Bossy, and Mark Recchi.

Main interest outside of sports: Las Vegas.

Favorite movies: St. Elmo's Fire, Die Hard, Oceans 11 (remake), Goodfellas, Bad Boys II, Touch and Go, Tango & Cash, Vegas Vacation, Bull Durham, Brain Donors, The Breakfast Club, Field of Dreams, Major League, and anything with the Marx Brothers in it.

Favorite musical groups: Better Than Ezra, Guns 'N Roses, Def Leppard, KISS, Iron Maiden, Toby Keith, Terri Clark, Billy Joel, and Alice in Chains.

Favorite books: The Teammates, The Black Prince of Baseball, Eight Men Out, and anything by Tony Kornheiser.

Ballparks I've been to: PNC Park, Three Rivers Stadium, Veterans Stadium, Citizen's Bank Ballpark, Fenway Park, Shea Stadium, Yankee Stadium, RFK Stadium, and Jacob's Field.

That's all I can think of right now. :)
Big 80's metal fan and big current country fan. And I threw in a couple 90s groups as well that I listen to a lot. Plus, Joel is a classic.

04-25-2005, 09:43 AM
Let’s see...whaddaya wanna know....
I like the anonymity of the internet, which is why I never use my real name, but I’ve gotten used to being called 2Chance.

I was born in Detroit in 1960, and my family moved every year for the first ten years, then I repeated this several times during the early ‘80s recession, and have settled in west central Ohio. It was kind of neat living in San Diego at an age that I was learning to speak English and Spanish at the same time. That also made for four easy credits in High School. I like to travel and have seen 37 or 38 states, Canada and Mexico, and lived in about 8 states.

My dad told me one time that it’s a wonder boys ever grow up to be men, and that is very true in my case. Among other things, I’m retired from the business of smart-mouthed drunk and skirt-chaser. Nobody I know believes that I was ever any of that. That is the difference described in 2 Cor. 5:17. You could look it up, ask me any questions you want about it via PM or email; this is a baseball board and otherwise I won’t talk about it here.

By birth and vocation, printing is my trade. But some people consider me more of a computer geek. The industry has changed a lot; you could pick either one and not be far off.

I like all kinds of music, but especially rock & roll from the 60s & 70s. The Beatles. Three Dog Night. CCR. Jazz & Blues are frequently on my playlist.

I read a lot of nonfiction, baseball books and biographies mostly, but definitely an eclectic mix; but also like to mix in mysteries, spy novels or caper novels from time to time. A book a week is about average.

How I got interested in baseball....after a bunch of moving around, I noticed the Tigers in the 1968 World Series. Hey, Detroit! It made me feel like home, a feeling that had been kind of missing for five years. An older friend got me set up with a bat, ball, glove and learning about the game & how to play it, and I was hooked. When we moved from LA to Ohio I became a Reds fan because my dad got us box seats a few times a year, and the Big Red Machine was a pretty big deal. In case you’re wondering, I quit being a Reds fan the day they traded Tony Perez. But the Tigers have been able to keep my loyalty no matter what kind of stupidity they pulled over the years. I guess it’s always different with your first love.

Speaking of first love...I’ve been married since 1984. We were friends first and that makes a big difference. Since you were debating it, I have to say she’s beautiful and intelligent, which doesn’t explain why she hangs with me. Maybe it’s because I know how lucky I am and don’t miss a chance to tell her. Or because she’s a good person and takes pity on me. Who knows?

Lima? That's where we stop off for lunch on the way to Tigers games. They treat us like regulars at the Red Lobster even though it's only once or twice a year. That's probably why we stop there most often; we've been to some of the other restaurants on that row (second place probably goes to Texas Roadhouse), but the people at Red Lobster are the best.:clapping

While we're on the subject of Lima, I'd like to bring up--for you native & adoptive Buckeyes--when I was a kid, we used to go camping at a place near West Liberty (just south of Bellefontaine), and one of the dads was supposed to take us to town for something. Well, none of us were from around there, and he got turned around and that's where we ended up. Lima. :)

So, back to food...a little yin for the yang here, I LOVE seafood. It's my favorite. Don't know whether that came from my youth, when I spent my summers fishing at Lobdell Lake MI (I doubt it), or earlier than that, living in San Diego & LA where the good stuff is plentiful, or maybe later, when I was traveling the country and fell in love with MD & their famous crabcakes.

I too would finish (or pre-empt) any meal with chocolate.

Caffeine messes me up too, not that it's been stopping me lately, and my diet for most of the last year has consisted almost entirely of salads, grilled chicken, and the occasional grilled fish. (More chocolate, please!!)

I'm not into Idols, American or otherwise, but have to admit Carrie Underwood is doing really well, and probably the only one I sat all the way through, Bo Bice, does my kind of music and at the time I thought pretty well.

Voting for Baseball Commissioners and Popes, for right now I'll say "None of the above." I'd have to do more thinking before supporting specific Supreme Court Justices, but on this bench I'm inclined to follow Sockeye.

04-25-2005, 02:45 PM
Heartfelt best wishes, Mr. Burgess, on a fast and as-full-as-possible recovery from your medical issues. Like most of us, I've had a few life-threateners, and it is those who care about you who are able to support your own determination to survive.

I'm 42, trying to finish a doctoral degree in environmental (green) marketing. I've a BA from Berkeley, a Masters from Thunderbird (AZ), have studied/taught in the US, Australia, Thailand, Venezuela, Switzerland, have worked in sales/marketing in the Pacific Northwest and Canada. I've been a huge baseball fan since the days of cards with bad pink gum (gave away my 3000+ card collection to a young self-professed collector who sold them the next day, dang him for eternity), since my non-fan dad taught me to play catch and took me to a Tucson Toros minor league game, since my obsession with triviata found such a perfect storm of an outlet. I've transferred my fascination to other sports, at times, from either convenience or necessity (cricket, in Oz; and how 'bout them Niners, I've been a fan since Norm Snead was the import QB, watched the end of Brodie, of Spurrier, saw OJ run, don't even go to the bandwagon jumping comments with me; even followed the W's since the days of Phil Smith and his ilk, never could stand Rick Barry).

I live in Yountville, near Napa, CA, like fine wine, my golden retriever puppy Mulligan, would willingly give up a major appendage to have the thesis finished, love the G'ints new park, eventually will wind up either as a professor, again, or a marketing manager, probably in the wine industry. Nice place to live, near a vineyard. Lived in Mr. Burgess' neck of the woods (Santa Clara, Mountain View, Cupertino, Sunnyvale) for some time, have also lived in SoCal (born there), AZ, FL, WA, Aust., and all over Bay Area.

Pues, es bastante por mi vida sin loco. Again, get well soon.

addendum on Dad: On Fathers, briefly
My father is my hero.

Born in the '20s, lost his pop early, only really knew his step-dad. Joined the Marines, in WWII and Korea (Frozen Chosin). Cross country on motorcycle, door-to-door salesman, mattresses to Levi's on time in Watts (LA), became an attorney, first defense then prosecutor, then a judge, now retired and living on multiple pensions, all earned, and investments. The best man I ever hope to know, funky enough to invent creative sentencing in California and to pick out the National Enquirer at the supermarket checkout. A negotiator, a hunkerer, a communicator, a man to treasure, and to emulate.

My father is my hero.

04-25-2005, 04:58 PM
first i want to say that i've really enjoyed reading this thread so far.

alright, my turn...

name: mike
age: 23
born november 28, 1981 in west covina, ca

my family moved to st. charles, mo before i was a year old. i don't remember califnornia at all.

i've always have really enjoyed watching and playing baseball. one of my earlier memories is the cardinals playing the san francisco giants in the 1987 NLCS. in st. louis, baseball is as much a part of your life as anything. because of this, i can't remember a defining moment that really pulled me into the game. it's what we always played as kids. another member mentioned playing games with two to a team. my friend and i used to play one on one baseball. we changed the rules a little bit, but it was a blast.

i've gone to private schools my entire life. first it was immanuel lutheran and then lutheran high school (care to make a guess to what my religious background is? occasionally i've posted that i am half jewish, but that's just an inside joke between a friend and myself) both of which are in the st. charles area. after high school, i enrolled at saint louis university. i'll be graduating (3 weeks!) with a bachelor's of science in business administration with majors management and accounting.

i have a fairly shy personality. i have always had a bit of trouble making friends. it has turned me into a bit of a cynic, so i apologize for any ignorant comments i've made to anyone on this board. chances are it was not deserved.

i played three sports in high school. surprisingly, baseball was not one of them. i lost a lot of interest in the game while i was in high school. i followed casually, but not as closely as i had throughout my childhood. i was much more interested in soccer, basketball, and roller hockey which were the sports i played during my high school years. although i have always loved sports, i find them extremely frustrating. i am what you would call a practice player. when there isn't any pressure on, i am one of the best players on the team. this was the case with basketball, and to a greater extent the case with baseball. i am sure this is what caused me to drift away from the game. i played my last game in the seventh grade. it's a shame because i have a hell of a strong arm. my coaches always tried to stick me in at pitcher, but i never developed the mental toughness that you need to excel at the position. i once hit two batters and walked two in one inning, but still struck out the side. i was clocked at 80 mph when i was 13. you may shrug this off, but i was only 5'2, 110 lbs at the time. the other day a friend of mine and i were playing long toss, and i gunned a throw that traveled approximately 330 feet on the fly. i guess it wasn't meant to be.

i didn't regain a strong interest in baseball until five years ago when i stumbled upon the baseball almanac. over time, baseball turned back into an obsession. i still think the almanac is one of the best websites on the internet. i can't imagine how much work goes into maintaining that site. my hat's off to sean for doing a hell of a job with it.

as far as my interests go, i am a big star wars nerd. the original trilogy is easily my favorite movie series. i also enjoy watching laurel and hardy movies, as long as they are from the hal roach years. i really enjoy john hughes' movies too. i am also a saturday night live junky, despite the show sucking for last several seasons. my favorite semi-serious movie is either the graduate or rain man.

i don't read many books, but i read a lot. i really enjoy reading the news. if i am going to read a book, it's more than likely going to be about history or baseball, or even better, baseball history. with music, i really enjoy listening to nirvana and the smashing pumpkins, although i have really a developed a liking for the beatles over the last two years or so. overall, i will listen to just about anything from new wave to sinatra. no rap or country though, please.

it's really hard to pinpoint who my favorite players are. my favorite players of yesteryear have to include musial, gehrig, koufax, frisch, gibson, hershiser, and gooden. i honestly like every single current player on the cardinals, but my favorite is jason marquis. my favorite non-cardinals who are currently playing are hank blalock, curt schilling, derek jeter, lance berkman, and roger clemens.

alright, this is getting to be ridiculously long, but i know i could go on some more. i'll spare everyone from that though.
hey guys, i just wanted to share some news with you. i now have a full-time job with a minor league baseball team.

i'm still on cloud nine. i have tried like hell for the last year and a half to get my foot in the door with a baseball team via an internship. i hadn't any luck at all. christ, i didn't even have any interviews. i did get a pile of rejection letters though. two mlb general managers did send me personal letters, and that was nice of them. it gave me a little extra push at the time, but reality began to quickly set in this summer. i figured it was time to pursue a realistic career.

i graduated in may, and since i've been home, i've put my name in for only one baseball job. i didn't think anything of it, and figured what the hell, why not take one more shot? almost two months passed before i got a call. this team is out on the east coast, so of course they called me at 8am central time, and caught me in a dead sleep. as soon as i heard who it was on the phone, i perked right up. i felt good about our phone interview, but still figured my chances were slim since i currently live about 1000 miles away from where this team is located. anyways, this past monday, i followed up on the phone interview. that's all, just a short follow-up. i wanted to let them know i was still interested in the position.

so yesterday, i received another call from them. this time it was their general manager offering me the job. i was shocked. we both got a good laugh at my expense because his news left me stuttering and stammering like crazy.

moving away from home is very intimidating and exciting at the same time. i'm sure it will be a very huge adjustment for me. anyways, i just wanted to share this with you all.

it's funny how things work out sometimes. i'm blessed.
Tonjes offers these Pet Peeves:

1. handicapped drivers. you may have some sort of physical hindrance, but your arms work, your brain functions, you can apply pressure to a pedal, what's the problem? why do you have to drive 35 in a 40?
2. the NBA. thugs have completely hijacked this once great league and have turned it into a street ball circus. thank god for Tim Duncan.
3. feminists. i am woman, hear me roar. enough said.
4. hostile Cobbie and royal fans. bitterness won't get you anywhere.
5. bbf isn't compatible with mozilla.
6. FM radio. we don't have any good music stations in st. Louis. i can't believe people like this linkin park and breaking Benjamin crap.
7. Katie Couric. little chicken hawk.
8. poor spelling. it drives me insane. I'm embarrassed to say this, but i have friends who are seniors in college that consistently make mistakes like spelling out I'll as "all" and "ussume" as assume. (of course, i probably have a few spelling mistakes in this post now that I've put this down.)
9. espn's baseball coverage. why don't they just rename sportscenter Yankees/red sox highlights?
10. fat people who sit around feeling sorry for themselves.
11. stinky feet.
12. snoring.
13. people who refuse to have a drink with you. ZzZzZz. I'm not talking about people who have legitimate reasons, ie drinking problems. I'm talking about mollycoddles. also, having a drink does not mean drinking to excess. relax a little, have a drink, and enjoy life.
14. small tippers.
15. hack comedians. Paul reiser, tom Arnold, Harold ramis, Howie Mandel, ant, Paula poundstone, etc.
16. Christian pop/rock music. i hear some emergency rooms are now using certain songs to induce vomiting in kids who have ingested household cleaners.
17. college-aged political activists. why does everything leave you so d*MN "outraged"? and please, hardly anyone takes your insignificant protests seriously.
18. over-the-top new York accents. just plain obnoxious.
19. drivers who sit in the fast lane and refuse to let you pass.
20. men who go to tanning salons. most people assume these guys are homosexual, and that's unfair to homosexuals.
21. people who chew with their mouth open.
22. dogs that lick. disgusting.
23. Texans. relax a little down there.
24. excessively flying the flag at half staff. this should be done rarely, yet it seems like we're doing this all the time. we need to be more selective.
25. men who frequent strip clubs.

04-25-2005, 05:18 PM
Born: March 22, 1948. Champaign, Ill. First residence was quonset hut while dad finished MA degree at University of Illinois.
1949-66 Quincy, Illinois
1966-70: Champaign-Urbana, Illinois: U of I student. BA in English
1970-71: Detroit
1971-72 East Lansing, Michigan. Grad work at MSU in special education for Emotionally Disturbed
1972- 77 Carrollton, Georgia (hour west of Atlanta)
1977-98 Tuba City, Arizona (on Navajo Reservation)
1998- present Phoenix

I came by my BB passion from Dad (the one area that we could actually agree on) and taking in St. Louis Cardinals games broadcast by Harry Caray and Jack Buck. How ANYONE could follow the Cardinals through Harry and NOT develop a baseball passion is unfathomable. I played neighborhood ball as a kid and 2nd base for a Little League team until I would've had to go to a "scary" Legion League that I knew that I wasn't good enough for... (Though I wish I had tried again after 7th grade after being fitted with very necessary glasses... might've been able to actually see pitched balls better)

We lived 2 hours north of St. Louis and made an annual summer venture to the big city... to take in a Cardinals game, a Muny Opera, and the traditional visit to Forest Park for the Zoo or Art Museum. I know that we started this in the mid 1950's, and always a great thrill to see Stan at Sportsman's Park. I do remember getting more serious about following baseball in 1957 since I remember intently watching the World Series and rooting heavily for the Braves against the hated Yankees.

Of course the childhood dream was to play for the Cardinals, but that later became a more reasonable desire to live in/near St. Louis to attend more Cardinals games. That didn't work out, but I did get chances to live near Tiger Stadium, then an hour away from Fulton County Stadium, and finally just 20 min. from downtown Phoenix when the Dbacks came into existence. Perhaps not coincidental that 1998 was the year I moved to the valley.

Work:1965 - 70 summer work jobs included Boy Scout camp nature counselor, Post Office work, door to door Bible salesman in Oklahoma
1970-71 Detroit. High school English teacher
1972 - 77 Teacher for emotionally disturbed/behavior disordered
1977 - 98 English teacher, Tuba City High School. Also coached chess team for 13 years, winning state championship four times
1998 - present Aries Technologies--writer/editor IT instructional materials

Favorite Ballplayers: Musial, Bob Gibson, Curt Flood, Lou Brock, Eddie Mathews, Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Ozzie Smith, Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Craig Counsell, Albert Pujols, Scott Rolen

Favorite Movies: Casablanca, The 400 Blows, Psycho, Notorious, North by Northwest, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, LOR trilogy, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Goodfellas, Last Temptation of Christ, Fellini's 8 1/2, Amarcord, Sunset Blvd, Los Olvidados, Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Wild Strawberries, Blue Velvet, and far too many more to list

Favorite Rock Bands: Bob Dylan, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, Dire Straits, U2, Dylan, Dylan, and more Dylan

Favorite Blues Artists: Buddy Guy, Koko Taylor, Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Lightnin' Hopkins, Shemekia Copeland

Favorite Athletes: Tiger Woods, Gary Kasparov, Walter Payton, Dick Butkus, Arnold Palmer, Magic Johnson

Favorite Movie Directors: Hitchcock, Truffaut, Fellini, Scorsese, Bunuel, Kubrick, Kurosawa, Ozu, Igmar Bergman

Favorite Books::
Walden, by Henry David Thoreau
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain
The Scarlet Letter, by Nathaniel Hawthorne

Favorite Baseball Books::
Cobb, by Al Stump
The Glory of Their Times by Lawrence Ritter
Summer of '49 by David Halberstam
You're Missin' a Great Game by Whitey Herzog
Babe: The Legend Comes to Life by Robert Creamer

Was I really here moments::
1. 2001 World Series -- all four games at Bank One Ballpark (game 7 is for the ages!!!)
2. 1990 -- NYC: opening two games between world chess champion Anatoly Karpov vs. challenger Garry Kasparov
3. 2004 Sundance Festival -- first time, but certain to return
4. 2005 Cannes Film Festival -- upcoming in May. Waiting to see if I get a press credential, but it looks promising right now
5. 1968 Opening Day at Wrigley vs. Cardinals -- wearing my Cards cap in the bleachers
6. 2004 -- final two regular season games vs. Yankees at Fenway Park; too much fun--am returning for final 3 game series this year
7. 1979 -- June pilgrimage to Israel. Jerusalem, Haifa, Akka
9. Cooperstown, 2000 followed by a Saturday night at Shea to watch the Cards win their only playoff game that year against the Mets

Favorite concert experiences:: Dylan (any of the five times I've seen him.. most special was the '74 tour), Buddy Guy (esp. the informal jam during his 59th birthday party at his Legends Club), Rolling Stones 2004, Ramblin' Jack Elliott (in SF 2002), Arlo Guthrie 2002, Chicago Blues Festival 2002, Joan Baez (just before the most recent Iraq War). Bruce Springsteen, Lollapalooza (year with Ministry, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Red Hot Chili Peppers, etc.), Bumbershoot Festival in Seattle (2004)

04-25-2005, 06:25 PM
I'm Frank, I joined BBF about three weeks ago.

Born: 4/19/83, in Taiwan. Moved to the USA in 1994.

Work: Currently I'm a college student, but next weekend I'll take my walk and graduate with a Bachelor of Science in Business Education degree.

Favorite ballplayers: Ichiro, Hideo Nomo, Chin-Hui Tsao, Johan Santana, Jackie Robinson, Cal Ripken jr

Favorite movies: Too many to name

Favorite Basketball Players: Steve Nash, Manu Ginobilli

Favorite Football Players: Michael Vick, Jerry Rice.

04-26-2005, 07:38 AM
Age: 42
Born: Delaware, grew up in Maine
Now Live: Japan for the past 14 years
Education: International Studies, School for International Training, Brattleboro, VT
Employment: I teach English to Japanese people, and do some rewriting of English language documents translated from Japanese.
Hobbies: I spend a lot of time now playing with my kids, now age 8 and 6. And I've always been a media junkie. That used to mean reading a couple newspapers thoroughly every day, now it means surfing the internet and discussing things in various forums. I also like to write song parodies, both silly and controversial. Some of my work is here (http://www.amiright.com/parody/authors/mac195.shtml).

Baseball background: I've been a fan since 1971, the year I first went out for the little league team. After learning to play, I found I could understand what was happening in the MLB games on TV and was fascinated. I loved everything about baseball, especially the stats in the newspaper, and basically spent the entire decade of the 70s playing, watching, listening to or reading about the game. My dad was more a basketball man having been one of the top college players in Maine in the early 60s. But he did take me to Fenway at least two or three times a year. I got more into basketball in the 80s as I had grown to be 6'5", and eventually played for several years on a Japanese team, but have returned to my first love baseball in recent years.

04-26-2005, 08:20 AM
Bill, gem of a thread. :clapping I'll try to follow preceding formats.

Born: July 31, 1960, (yes, the same day as Cleveland Municipal Stadium, not quite the same year :laugh , and also the trading deadline. Fortunately, my mom didn't trade me), 1960 (closest birthdate to decent big leaguer is Mike Witt and Terry Pendleton), in Akron, OH (birthplace of Munson, Woodling, Knepper)

Youth: went to west Akron school system (went to same high school but after the Pretenders' Chryssie Hynde and before at least one of the guys from Devo. I was only one or two years ahead of Rachel Sweet, who had a duo with Rex Smith (the "You Take My Breath Away" guy). College of Wooster one year, graduated from University of Akron, later at the defunct Cleveland Institute of Technology.

Lived: Akron for basically 26 years (except for the Air Force officers school that didn't work out), Broadview Heights (if anyone's heard of skater Tonia Kwiatkowski) for two years, Maple Heights for nine years (same city as reliever Dale Mohorcic), eight years in Garrettsville.

Baseball passion started: maybe in Boy Scouts, when I grew up in the Ice Age, all ice picks were for righties and everyone wanted me to throw righty. A scout leader said that I'm a natural lefty. I remember catching a line drive barehanded mostly because I was in the way of it, I still wasn't good. First baseball memory is one of the A's World Series in the early 70's. In gym in school, I was catcher because I wasn't good. One guy popped up and he said I'd never catch it. I did and amazed him, but still wasn't good. Finally got my coordination right AFTER high school. My neighbor had Cleveland partial season tickets and took me. I went early to batting practice but after almost two years of catching nothing, I bought one at the gift shop before the game. That night Dave Rosello hit me my first, and more than a hundred have followed since then. Then I started collecting cards in 1981.

Work: Computer programmer & related duties. Used to work fifty feet from where the Akron Aeros minor league park ended up being built.

Favorite players: There are the specialist legends (Ruth), the more five-tool type guys (Mays, Barry Bonds, Schmidt, Cobb, Speaker) and guys of personal integrity (Hershiser, AThornton, Doug Jones, Nolan Ryan, Bob Feller, Jim Thome).

Movies: I'm not much into them except for maybe It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World; Toy Story 1, and stuff like Indiana Jones.

Rock Bands: Kansas, Rush, Yes, older Genesis, Jethro Tull (among names you might have heard), ApologetiX, and glad to see Chryssie Hynde, Devo & James Ingram make it big

Greatest hits CDs: the above, plus the Chicago one where they're painting a building

20th century athletes: Willie Mays, Barry Bonds, Mike Schmidt, Cobb, Speaker, Emmett Smith, Gretzky, Tiger Woods, Renaldo Nehemiah, David Robinson, Bjorn Borg, Earl Anthony.

Basketball: Michael Jordan, David Robinson, my "nephew" LeBron James (hey, we both grew up in Akron :laugh :laugh

Football runners: Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, heard stories about Jim Brown

Books: What are books? :laugh The Bible, Total Baseball :laugh , Bill James' Historical Abstracts

Rock geniuses: Kerry Livgren, Phil Keaggy, Paul McCartney, the guys from the band Chicago, Jeff Lynne (among guys you might have heard)

Skaters: Scott Hamilton (humble but a crowd-pleaser), I better say Carol Heiss-Jenkins since she was my Cub Scout den mother for a while :laugh , Katarina Witt is nice to look at :rolleyes:

Rock Voices: Steve Walsh, Matthew Ward, Mickey Thomas

Rock Songs: Roundabout, Tom Sawyer, Bohemian Rhapsody, Fooling Yourself

Hobbies: mac195, I write song parodies too :D
Collect baseball cards (over 800 different Barry Bonds cards)
Playing softball for church team (good field, no hit)
Working on baseball database-type file (I may start a thread where I can tell guys baseball events that happened on their birthday)
Collecting progressive Christian music

Actors: not big on this, but probably John Ritter, Michael J. Fox, Tom Hanks

Teams: I had to have a real team to root for when growing up so I picked the Reds. Now that the Tribe has at least been to the World Series twice I'll stick with da hometown bums, and hopefully their rebuilding program is working. I've followed the Cleveland Force/Crunch pro indoor soccer team on and off.

TV: Brady Bunch (don't laugh), MASH, Bill Cosby, This Week In Baseball, the clean Monty Python stuff

That's more than anyone would ever want to know.
addendum on Dad:
My dad worked for Goodyear for FORTY-SIX years He said he was lifting 200-pound rolls of rubber, and this at least into the start of his fifties.
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04-26-2005, 01:19 PM
Sorry it has taken me a while to post here, I've been out of town...

Born in 1957 in the same hospital my Dad was born in 1927, the winemaking capitol of the east bay area, Livermore CA

Went to Livermore High, same school that Randy Johnson graduated from. But I like to say that the Unit went to my high school, rather than the other way around! :D I mean, I was there first!

Matriculated at UC Santa Barbara where I got a degree in History. At that time it sure earned it's reputation as a party school, second only perhaps to Chico State! :eek:

As I've said on previous threads, baseball came to me thru my grandfather and my Dad. I always thought that my Grandpa being a fan of Christy Mathewson was cool. He never got to see him play, but because my Great-grandfather was a newspaper owner, Grandpa read all the wire stories about the Big 6, and that got him into the game, and he passed it on to me. Dad just reinforced that.

But to be honest, I never played the game after little league, partly because I was so small I was scared to death at the plate, and partly because I found the game I could be good at, soccer. I happened to find myself on a team that won three straight California State titles and in our last year we ended up fourth in the nation. I now love to watch the USA's National Soccer teams, and frankly I am in awe of the women's team. Mia Hamm is one of those rare athletes like Jordan, Gretzky, Magic Johnson who has the "eye of the tiger" and will bury your team if you give her a chance. Plus, she's an outstanding role model, not just for girls, but for any athlete anywhere. And her presence on the team will be truly missed.

I currently work in Human Resources for a large systems integration firm, specifically handling Pension and 401(k) issues. But before that I worked 20 years in retail management and hated it for most of that time! But I am much happier now.

I am a big fan of the group Chicago, I've seen them in concert well over 20 times since 1975. And RMB, I got to spend an afternoon with most of the members of the group back in 1978, they were pretty cool, especially Danny Seraphine. Also, I love Springsteen. Nov. 6th 1975 the Boss came to UCSB (I have framed the ticket stub!) and played for 4+ hours...frankly ruined the rest of my concert going experiences because nobody has come close to being as good as he was that night. :D

I like all sorts of movies, from silly fun movies like "The Commitments" and "That thing you do!" to great films like "Amadeus" and " 12 Angry Men". But my alltime favorite is the mini-series "Band of Brothers". Great acting and realism by basically a group of unknowns. I watch and rewatch those episodes all the time.

And since my mom, (and my wife for that matter) was a librarian, books have been a big part of my life. And yes, I'll be getting multiple copies of the "Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince" on July 16th. Not because I have two children, but because I love those books. Also, I read a ton of biographies, I love looking into why great people were great. In particular, I am a big fan of Harry Truman, the last honest man to be in the White House. David McCullough's bio of Harry is an outstanding book. But this also means I've read a lot of sports biographies, I have a 1st edition of Al Stump's book on Cobb, and I have recently re-read Jane Leavey's outstanding book on Koufax.

But my biggest challenge in life is dealing with my mixed marriage. My being a lifelong Giants fan, and my wife being a Dodger fan has it's challenges. Most particularly how do we bring up our children, to be righteous Giants fans, or slimy Bums fans!!? :D What we've decided to do is let them choose for themselves, and they seem to be gravitating to the Angels, which is OK by both of us. And if our pal HiddenGem gets the call to the Halo's, he'll have to young fans rooting for him!

And I am very happy to have found BBF, a bunch of good people talking about the National Pastime. What could be better than that? Maybe a Giants WS victory, but not much else!


And one thing that no one would guess about me....I am sort of an expert on Figure Skating. My wife is a big fan, and I sort of picked it up by osmosis. It's easily the most aggravating sport in the world., bar none, and there's a part of me that's mad that I paid attention to it! And RMB, I certainly do know Tonia Kwiatkowski, she's a fine skater, and she was great in that TV special "Christmas Angel".
addendum on Family:
OK Bill, I'll bite on the family stuff...

I'm one of the lucky ones who found a soulmate, just celebrated 17 years of marriage, haven't regretted a minute of it.

I have a 13 year old daughter who's about as unathletic as they come, but she's a brain. One of those kids who can get in trouble for reading too much!

But BBFer's will be happy to know that I am raising my 9 year old son correctly. He's just starting to play ball, but he's knows alot about baseball already from me and MVP Baseball '04! Just today he and I watched the HBO special about The Shot Heard Round the World and I think for the first time he really understood how important it was. As I said in my original post in this thread, he's always grown up with the fact that his parents had a mixed marriage, me a Giants fan, his mom a Dodger fan. So I have had to tread lightly around the subject of Bobby Thomson. But since we live in LA and we have two teams (according to Arte Moreno! ) he's taken a shine to the Angels which is fine with his parents. He really likes Vladimir Guerrero and was really disappointed when David Eckstein left for the Cards. Also, one of my favorite things to do is to share stories out of the wonderful book "The Glory of their Times". My Grandfather gave me that book when I was about his age, and I just loved reading about the silliness of Germany Schaefer and Charles "Victory" Faust, and poor Merkle and Snodgrass, and he's been enjoying them too.
Annie, great post!! Anyone who says they love the movies "Top Secret!" and "Galaxy Quest" is OK in my book!

And I must say I am stunned to see someone state they like the Foxfire series. I loved reading those books, there is just a charm to them, but I've found very few people other than me who has actually read them. But I have to tell you, I worked with a guy who I turned on to those books who became so enamored with them that he thought he'd try to tan the hide of a raccoon that he'd recent caught on his ranch. He followed the instructions and in six months got the biggest, smelliest mess I've ever seen. Somethings perhaps just don't translate well to the 21st Century!
Bill, while I certainly agree that The Doors were a great band, I'm not sure I'd quite go as far as you. Morrison's preoccupation with death imagery can get a little old at times. But I'll say this, Jim Morrison was a totally unique figure in rock and roll, and brought a new face to popular music. We are all in debt to him for that.

To me, the ultimate rock album has to be "Who's Next". Not a bad song on the disc, and features some of the finest crafted rock songs ever made. Add into that mix the really strong lyrics of Pete Townsend (who takes a back seat to few lyrically in my book), and some outstanding musical performances by Moon and Entwistle, and you have just a great piece of classic rock music.

IMO "Classic Rock" Started with Jimi Hendrix "Are you experienced?" and Cream's "Fresh Cream" (sorry all you Yardbird's fans). 1967 changed music in so many ways, but in particular we heard a move away from pure pop of the Beatles and Stones to sounds that featured more instrumental work and showed off the virtuosity of the performers. It's no coincidence that so many groups got their start that year (including the Doors) but to me at least, this is the starting point. The ending point is hard to determine, but you might as well say Classic Rock as we know it died when John Bonham died.


04-26-2005, 09:30 PM
What a great post man...I hope only good health for you from now till forever, glad you are back and posting...I can feel your energy...you have nothing to worry about there.

Born: May 24, 1950 (Bob Dylan, I dont think same year though) Born in Atlanta, GA but moved to Orlando, Fl when I was two. Been here ever since. Dad was also in Military, WWII, Korea...26 years....wasnt home very much, bless his soul, he died an alcoholic, the air force made him sit on Guam for 3 years where he started drinking heavy, Mom raised me most of my life until I thought I could do it myself (Boy was I wrong).
Been in Central Fla all my life, never seen snow at least not on the ground.

Work: 1970-73 mostly construction
1974-1986 Food and Souvenir Manager at the Daytona, Alabama, & Atlanta Speedways (seen some great Nascar races of all time) (Actually drove around Daytona at 167 MPH, I almost **** my pants. Really)
Part-Time 1992-1998: Orlando Magic (Fantasy Play-by-Play engineer)
1986-1993 Envornmental speacialist for Harris Corp. (a military contractor)
1994-1998 Telephone Installer (fiber Optics)
1998-2001 Print Shop Manager for Xerox Corp.
2001-present...Started our own Denim Jeans Company (Gypsy Jeans) have spent more money than I've made so far.

Favorite ballplayers: Bobby Richardson, most any Yankee, Roberto Clemente

Favorite movies: Conspiracy Theory, Young Guns, most westerns (still like the old ones)

Favorite Rock Bands: Beatles, Jimi Hendricks, Grand Funk Railroad, Aerosmith, Led Zep

Favorite Rock CD's: Abbey Road, Rainbow Bridge (I have 2600 old Albums) but not many CDs

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: Beatles Red and Blue

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jim Thorpe, Michael Jordan, Mohammed Ali, Bill Russell (mostly the same as you)

Favorite Basketball Players: Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Shag (met him)

Favorite Football Players: Bob Hayes, Roger Staubach, Johnny U...didnt have many favorite runners except for Jim Brown and Csonka

Favorite Movie Directors: The guy that did Plup Fiction

Favorite Books: Not much of a reader but really enjoyed Babe Ruth's book from 1938

Favorite Sports Books:same as above

Favorite Rock Geniuses: John Lennon, Donovan, Jimi Hendricks, Paul McCartney, Mark Farmer, Elvis

Favorite Ice Skaters: None

Favorite Rock Voices: John Lennon, Tom Petty, Steve Perry, Robert Plant, Donovan

Men I admire of the 20th Century: Any who have done alot for Kids, Martin Luther King, Jimmy Carter

Favorite Mixed Martial Artists of the Ultimate Fighting Championships:
Dont really know any

Technically Best-Made Movies: Terminator, Incredibles

Favorite Rock Tunes: So many whatever I put here I would forget some but any on Abby Road specially the ones that seem to be all connected...carry that weight, polythene pam...you know the ones

Baseball.....Use to sneak away during spring training at 7 to 10 years old and watch the games through a hole in left field of Tinker Field..I think its been in my blood ever since. Some ballplayer ( couldnt tell you who) rubbed my head one day and said I bet you are a pitcher. Funny thing I pitched for a little league team at the time. Whoever it was he was like a God to me at the time. I played through Pony League 14 to 16 years old but never carried it any further. Never went out for baseball in high school probably because in the 60's I was only interested in Mary Jane and Girls. Got caught after high school for transporting Mary Jane (5 kilos) out of Mexico and did about 1 1/2 years in a federal prison but am proud to say I was part of 16% (at the time) that didnt continue a life of crime. I think I could have been great, maybe as good as Richardson if I would have stuck with baseball. Of course thats my ego talking now. Played softball off and on for 10 years had to quit because I didnt know how to slow down....I played every pitch like it was the 7th game of a WS. I almost killed myself at times but never did anyone know. Just walking on a diamond gets my blood flowing like you wouldnt believe. Umpired a few little league games a few years ago and had a ball hit me in the mask behind the plate...and I felt that blood flowing again...it was great. I curse myself weekly for not trying out for baseball in High School.
My mom is still alive at 84 ....she's a die-hard Braves fan and I'm a die-hard Yankees fan so its a bitter war when we get together.

My favorite thing in life: My kids 6 of them....3 step kids and 3 of my own. Twin girls (Kris and Kim) who are 30 this year (I met them when they were 1) 22 year old daughter (Kortney), 16 year old step son (Zachary) (I met him when he was 5), 7 year old daughter (Jessica), and finally my first son 4 years old (Ronald Donovan). Thats two marriages if we are counting.

Thats me in a capsule, I hope I didnt bore you too much...but this was a great way to release and to reflect back on one's life.


PS...It took me forever to read this thread...alot of interesting people and I'm glad I'm part of it.
Bill's response to Ronny:


One of the hardest things to have to live with, is knowing we could have been exceptional at something when we had our chance, and didn't take our shot.

I know. I walked away from my gift - extraordinary rock dancing. After 7 yrs. of balls-to-the-wall honing of a remarkable gift, just when I was arriving at the stage of being able to pass Broadway auditions - I just walked away. It was too hard pychologically. And I've been disappointed with myself ever since. The parable about "burying your talens".

But . . . taking a Providencial view, perhaps that angst is now motivating us to do other things with a compensating passion. I now try to infuse certain, select posts of mine with as much passion, clarity, simplicity & power as I can. I write for the time-capsule. That's why I "sign" all my pieces. I want everyone to know who I am, and try to build my "name recognition".

If I had continued on with my dance career, I'd now be a teacher / choreographer, perhaps director of my own studio. So I now channel my passion into new areas. I like to think I try harder, since giving up my golden dream so long ago. So maybe you're a better parent, because you didn't take your baseball dream shot? Who's to say? We have a lot in common, my friend. God bless your family.

I like your providencial view, your exactly right....I guess we both used that angst to motivate us through a different path and to make a good situation out of what we may have considered a bad decision. Reflecting on this, I'm sure that if I had gone with the passion of baseball....who knows there might not be 6 wonderful people who I can say love me dearly and respect me more than I deserve.
Thanks for the uplift.

04-27-2005, 06:11 AM
Name: Ray
Age: 27
Born: Kenosha, WI
Lived in Kenosha, WI from 1978 to September 1996
Lived in Milwaukee, WI from September 1996 to December 2001
Lived in Chicago from December 2001 - present

School: Jeffrey Elementary for K
Grewenow Elementary for 1-6
Lance Junior High School for 7-9
Tremper High School 10-12
UW - Milwaukee for undergrad degree in Civil Engineering

Work: Civil Engineer

Baseball: Just a fan
Favorite Artists: Iced Earth, U2, Blind Guardian
Favorite Albums: Joshua Tree, Master Of Puppets, The Glorious Burden, the Hellfire Club
Favorite Movie Director: none
Favorite Movies/Documentaries: Lord of the Rings Trilogies, Star Wars Original Trilogy, Terminator
Favorite Teams: Cubs, Bears
Favorite Baseball Players, Other: Maddux, Ryne Sandberg, Ernie Banks, Mark Grace, Roger Clemens, Mark Prior
Favorite TV: Baseball Tonight, Sportscenter
Favorite Books: Wheel of Time series (robert jordan), Honor Harrington books by David Weber

Dad's soon to be 55. Auto Worker (he's a machinist at Chrysler), and while not my hero per se I do look up to him. Mom is 49, shes a housemom (worked part time as an RN for a long time). shes not my hero at all. love her of course, but not my hero.

Pet Peeves: sanctimonious people. People who think their opinions are better than everyone else's. Slow Drivers. loud kids/screaming babies. Extreme Negativity

more update on music. I started with Beach Boys as a young kid. then in high school i got into heavy metal. It progressively got heavier until i liked Death Metal my senior year. I got tired of Cookie Monster vocals, so i went into more traditional versions of metal (Maiden, Megadeth, Motley Crue, Metallica) and also Classical music. My current state of music is stuff that is heavy, tells a story, and symphonic in nature. Symphonic Metal (and power metal) that comes from europe is my favorite, as it combines my favorite types: heavy metal and strong instrumentation.

Bothrops Atrox
04-28-2005, 07:29 AM
Name: Matthew Cornwell
Age: 33
Birthday: October 9
Born and raised in St. Louis Co., currently living in Florissant, Mo.
Married (10 years on May 29th) with two children :)

High School: Pattonville
College: Missouri Baptist University - Majored in Elementary Ed. and psychology, some post-grad in counseling

Occupation: 6th grade teacher - summer camp coordinator

Favorite teams: Cards, Rams, Blues, Tar Heels, Mizzou Tigers , Braves, Steelers, Celtics, Used to like the Quebec Nordiques before they left for Colorodo.

Favorite all-time athletes during my lifetime: Larry Bird, Ozzie Smith, Albert Pujols, Brett Hull, Al MaCinnins, Maddux-Glavine-Smoltz, Jim Edmonds, Jack Clark, Tony Pena, Marshal Faulk, Isaac Bruce, Kurt Warner, Tory Holt, Adam Oates, Vince Carter, Charles Barkley, Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, Frank Thomas, Chris Pronger, Steve Nash, Kevin Garnett

Favorite athletes before my lifetime: Stan Musial, Bob Gibson, Steve Carlton, Tom Seaver, Bob Cousy, Glen Hall, Bill Russell, Jauque Plante, Bernie Federko, Marcel Dionne, Peter Stastny

Least favorite teams: Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox, Blackhawks, Red Wings, 49ers, Cowboys, Lakers, Sac. Kings, Duke, Wake Forest, Kansas, Kentucky

Least favorite athletes (Sports figures): Kerry Wood, Dusty Baker, Carlos Zambrono, Vlade Divac, Kobe Bryant, Jason Williams, Leanard Little, anybody who has ever played at Duke (with the exception of Grant Hill.) esp. J.J. Reddick, Curt Schilling, Kevin Brown, Moises Alou, Roger Clemens, Lloyd McClendon, Nyger Morgan

Favorite music artists: Beatles, U2, Police, George Strait, REM, Rogers and Hammerstein, Christopher Cross, Nirvana, Van Halen, Tom Petty, Guns N' Roses, Pink Floyd, Wu Tang, Tchaikovski, G. Rossini, Prokofiev, Randy Travis, Stevie Wonder, Muddy Waters, Nick Drake, Bon Iver, Maxwell, Erika Badu, iron and Wine, Band of Horses, Dwight Yokam, the Jungle Brothers, They Might Be Giants, Wu Tang,

Favorite albums: Achtung Baby, Abbey Road, Automatic For The People, The Unforgettable Fire, The Wall, Nevermind, Clear Blue Sky,The White Album, Laid (James), Synchronicity, Illmatic, Up, Wildflowers

Favorite Books: The History of Tom Jones, The Things They Carried, Cat's Cradle, Native Son, The Bean Trees, Death of a Salesman, The Great Gatsby, Anna Korenena, Great Expectations, Thr Giver

Favorite Movies: Bond...James Bond. My favorite 5: 1. OHMSS 2. From Russia With Love
3. Casino Royalle 4. Thunderball 5. The Spy Who Loved Me. 6. Sky all

Hobbies and more: I adore music, and am an accomplished sax player (at least I think so). I love to serve in my Church. I love spending time with my wife and boys and of course , I love sports. Baseball and basketball are my favorites, with football and hockey right behind. I am an avid herpetology enthusiast, but my wife won't let me go into herpetology. :). Hence my name.

04-29-2005, 01:49 PM
Not sure anybody really cares, but this is fun

Born: Err... lets just say I'm proud to put a 3 in front of the second number... but not for much longer :(

Born in: Vermont. Kind of boring. Lived in Philly, New York City, Boston, Miami, Orlando, Houston, and, for most of my life, in DETROIT

Work: Been a pilot since I was 14, a mechanic since I was 20, been flying both commercial and cargo for many years now (typed in DC8, DC9, 727 - also time in Airbus A320 family equipment, amongst many TP jobs paying my dues). Edging more towards a desk job nowadays, trying to spend more time at home (not a lot of luck there).

Favorite ballplayers: Ty Cobb, Alan Trammell, Ted Williams, Walter Johnson, Mickey Lolich are my favorites of all-time.

Favorite current ballplayers: Roger Clemens, Pedro Martinez, Kerry Wood, Jeremy Bonderman, Raffi Palmeiro, Vlad Guerrero, Dimitri Young, Brandon Inge.

Favorite movies: Field of Dreams, any Kubrick movie, Star Wars trilogy, Garden State

Favorite Rock Bands: Errr... not a lot there. Pink Floyd is great but as a rule I can't stand rock.

Favorite Rock CD's: Tough again, but Wish you were Here and Division Bell

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: Chris Ledoux, 2Pac, Hank Williams Senior, Willie Nelson

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Ty Cobb, Ted Williams, Dale Earnhardt, David Pearson

Favorite Basketball Players: Bill Russell, Larry Bird

Favorite Football Players:I can't STAND football

Favorite Movie Directors: Stanley Kubrick

Favorite Books: Any Hemmingway, Farewell to Arms is my favorite.

Favorite Sports Books:Cobb, Al Stump

Favorite Rock Geniuses: Err, enough of the rock questions :grouchy ... favorite musical Geniuses of the 20th-21st century: Willie Nelson, Hank Williams Senior, Tupac Shakur, EPMD, Dr Dre, Mike Clark, Frank Sinatra, Miles Davis

Favorite Ice Skaters: My wife :)

Favorite Rock Voices: None, can't stand rock

Men I admire of the 20th Century: Churchill, my Father

Favorite Mixed Martial Artists of the Ultimate Fighting Championships: That one guy who kicks a lot

Technically Best-Made Movies: Errrr?

Favorite Rock Tunes: We're obsessed with rock here...

Baseball..... My Grandfather played for a team in Arkansas in the early 1900s, my father played and was pretty good, turned down a contract so that he could go to college... Baseball has always been a huge part of my life. I played through High School and into college, where I realized that my knuckleball needed to go over 45 and my fastball needed to go over 80 if I'd have any success whatsoever. It never did. I've had Tigers season tickets for 18 years now, even when I didnt live in Detroit, I'd make a point to make it to at least 20-30 games a year. I'm a ravenous Tigers fan, like my father before me, and support most other original 16 teams. I hate every team that plays in a dome :)

My favorite thing in life: My wife, my kids, my dog, my cat, my racing, my flying, and my baseball :)

04-29-2005, 05:14 PM
Don't have time to read, but why not:
Name: Doug Fowler
Age: 35
Live in: N.E. Ohio, lived there all my life.

School: Harter Elementary (1-6th), Souers Middle (7-9th), McKinley Sr. High (10-12), College of Wooster (Wooster, Ohio), Case Western Reserve Law School (Cleveland), now after 10 years correspondence courses through Temple Baptist Seminary (Chattanooga)

I have 20/800 vision, meaning I can't read unless it's real close to my face, but can read normal print like this a couple inches away. I also have 25% hearing in one ear, 75% that can be put up to 100% w/a hearing aid in the other. I have a small bit of cerebral palsy, enough so I have limited strength, most I ever benched pressed was about 80, but I walk okay. Also possibly a small bit of Asperger's Syndrome or something similar, but not much if any, it's like my CP; I basically have a little trouble figuring out body language, etc., am also a bit hypersensitive, but I'm not too bad with social social contact & make friends fairly easy, which makes me think that maybe the symptoms I have that look like that are instead just something due to my low vision and stuff. However, I've had major passions before like some Asperger's people do, like the planets when I was younger, or the Presidents then (I knew them in order in 3rd grade) - and like baseball was in my teen years. I only started wondering about the Asperger's when I heard of a couple on line friends who have it, so I wouldn't say it's real likely, just possible to explain some things. Oh, and I collected 150+ stuffed animals and still have 125 stuffed dogs and about 10 other stuffed animals in the attic of my home, which I own and maintain myself pretty well, except I need my folks to do things like gardening b/c I could never see to get gas in a mower, etc.

Work: Owned my own law practice out of my house for 10 years, current, it's quite slow, but nobody would hire me right out of school, and I never had the money to rent a place. I have learned what I suspected, that I hate litigation, but I've also grown more spiritually to the point I am changing careers. I would just rather do more with helping people spiritually, as helping w/law only goes so far. I have had a good wills and estates practice for a while, though.

Favorite ballplayers: Andre Thornton, Honus Wagner, Cal Ripken Jr., Roberto Clemente, Willie Mays, Jackie Robinson, Charlie Brown & the rest of his team in no real order

Favorite current ballplayers: Tough to say. I don't follow quite as close as I did, though I still like Omar Vizquel & Manny Ramirez as they're former Indians, plus a few of the current ones..

Favorite movies: Airplane, Field of Dreams, The Natural, Apollo 13

Favorite Rock: Not into music - I mean it, I listened on the radio some, to our Oldies station, but mostly for the sports, & while I liked some soft rock as a teen except for Gospel songs I don't really have any music I'm big on.

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: The '85 Bears - they made a lot of 'em :-)

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Brett Favre, Jackie Robinson,

Favorite Basketball Players: Don't follow it much, but Chris Snow went to my high school - I think it's Chris. Precy, his older brother, was a year ahead of me, or maybe two; he played for football's Chiefs, I think.

Favorite Football Players: Anyone on the Packers

Favorite Movie Directors: Don't pay attention to directors'/performers' names; here's another little thing that might indicate Asperger's, I'm much more in tune to the fictional universes that are created by a writer/creator, and the little idiosyncrasies of these universes. It's what helps me as a writer, too.

Favorite Books: The Bible, some baseball books, any Agatha Christie mystery

Favorite Sports Books: Any of the Baseball Abstracts, The Man Who Brought the Dodgers Back to Brooklyn (always my dream)

Favorite Rock Geniuses: Don't know any famous geologists :-) (Okay, I know what you meant, but I had to say that - hey, you had to figure w/my favorite movie being Airplane)

Favorite Ice Skaters: None that I know of

Favorite Rock Voices: The only rock I know is Zoe's pet rock on Sesame Street, and one of the gags 'I've heard is that it doesn't have a voice, he's just a rock.

Men I admire of the 20th Century: Churchill, my grandfather, Jackie Robinson, our church's late Pastor, Harold Henniger - a great man of God, one of the nicest men you'd ever meet

Favorite Mixed Martial Artists of the Ultimate Fighting Championships: That one guy who kicks a lot

I kept this in b/c it sounds like my kind of joke, as you can tell

Baseball..... Charlie Brown got me started, I was reading when I was 3, though always had 20/800 vision it never stopped me. I thought the concept was pretty cool, & as I grew in the late '70s I learned more and more of the history, but was really into other stuff till the early '80s when I became obsessed w/it, 1982 was the first seson I really followed, & from then on I didn't stop till college, when I slowed down. Souers is my adopted Jr. High, and that's all I'll say, except that baseball was a key part of helping me have something positive to focus on for a few years.
I played baseball for blind/legally blind kids called "beeper ball" from when I was 5 or 6 to my high school years, & loved it. I also had season tickets to the AA Canton-Akron Indians for the 1989-1992 seasons, & saw lots of great games. Those Indians' minor league teams always seemed to mount great comebacks in the last inning or innings.
Lost interest someone after '94, but the Tribe still kept my interest. Regained a fair amount of interest after the Sox' comeback in 2004, but now it's just moderate, like my grandpa's was (he was really my dad to me, my biological one having divorced my mom at 18 months, I never saw him again, he died when I was 15.) My grandpa always followed the local team, knew a few major stars, & enjoyed following at playoff time, except I won't follow if the Yankees are in the Series.

My favorite thing in life: Know the Lord Jesus Christ as my Savior. Writing in my spare time, a couple Print On Demand books plus fanfiction; even some Peanuts fanfic. I'm the author named "Me" on fanfiction.net; best to look in the Peanuts' section or something else where I have some recent ones, like Full House.

04-30-2005, 05:44 PM
Bill, et al... And I will try not to stray too far, from baseball... In 1967 I am 12-13 yrs old,

My brother is 15-16, (A Big fan of the Twins) I have grown up with a very poor Red-Sox teams...

Some favorites are Yaz, (of course) Rico, Boomer, Tony C., The Rookies Mike Andrews, and Reggie Smith, My fav Sox hurler (Earl Wilson) was dispatched to Detroit in the off-season. Bill Monboquette (another early favorite...Is On the Yankees). (I have No Expectations for Boston to do well, so I "bet" my brother a summer's worth of yard work (mowing, trimming, etc.... My Mom was a widow).

The bet is whoever was in first place each week by Sunday would mow the lawn, rake, water garden, etc. My Brother takes "the bet" and assumes the Twins, will be strong-again, 1964-65-66...

Well at this point, I've been used by him enuff, and figure that This might be the yr. of the Sox....problem is...I Changed them, lol.... From Red to White ....

There are thousands more words to say, and if I'm allowed on BBF I will share more....take care, good health. (Baseball Fever Rules).... John :radio
Addendum for Dad:
As far as my dad goes, well he "Moon-lighted" as a weelend reporter for the Providence Journal, and mainly his "beat" was Hi-School sports. And I assume, a semi-pro" Industrial" fast-pitch softball league.

I was about 6 yrs old when he died..

I remember taking a train from where I live, to go to the Journal in Providence.

The team from Providence was darn good, as I recall, and I seem to recall a "Big-Rival" was a team called Raybestoes, and they wore the exact same uniforms of the St.Louis Cardinals.

The first game if ever saw for MLB was in the summer of 1960, and as a young child, I guess I badgered my dad for hotdogs, souvenirs, whatever...I am very sure...This was a game at Fenway vs. The Tigers...It remains very clear in my mind as I Whined for his "attention", that he told me to quit it, because Ted Williams, was coming up that inning.. That man knew he was seeing "his legend" in "his last hurrah".....But he taught me something that day..

He planted the seed. 45 yrs later, ..... It grew....

Johnny Ghost(Jamestown,RI)

Iron Jaw
05-01-2005, 11:40 PM
Name: Iron Jaw (Mike)

Age: 49......er, um.....I've been 29 twenty times. :D

Born in Steelville, Missouri. Grew up mostly in Colorado.

Married in 1990 (at age 34 - for the first time). Two kids, a boy and a girl.

Occupation: U.S. Border Patrol Supervisor - I've been with the patrol 18 years.

Previous Occupations: Teacher (Junior High), hard rock miner, ski instructor (snow).

Military Service: U.S. Marine Corps, active duty enlisted, 1974-77, U.S. Marine Corps Reserve, 1981-87, Commissioned Officer.

Education: B.A., Fort Lewis College (Colorado), 1980 (I attended another college for 1-year prior to joining the Corps). High School grad, 1973.

High School Sports: Football (All Conference twice), Wrestling (1973 Colorado state champ), Baseball (catcher-1b).

College Sports: I played football and wrestled all four years. RMAC wrestling champ 1980.

Hobbies: Weightlifting, running, wrestling/grappling, skiing (snow), coaching little league baseball.

Became a baseball fan: 1961. My father was a Cardinal fan. I quickly became one too. When I found out that my grandfather was affiliated with the St. Louis Browns during his minor league career, I also became an Oriole fan.

Favorite baseball players: Ken Boyer, Brooks Robinson, Frank Robinson, Stan Musial, Bill White, Bob Gibson, Tim McCarver, Dave McNally, Jim Gentile, Boog Powell, Dick Groat, Curt Simmons, Mike Cuellar, Moe Drabowsky, Ted Simmons, Jim Palmer, Milt Pappas.

Favorite baseball seasons: 1964, 1966, 1967, 1970.

Favorite teams in other sports: Pro Football - Denver Broncos. College Football - Colorado Buffaloes. Pro Basketball - Denver Nuggets. College Basketball - CU and Mizzou. Pro Hockey - Denver Avalanche. College Hockey - Denver U. Pioneers. Collegiate Wrestling - Oklahoma State and Arizona State.

Favorite all time football players: Johnny Unitas, John Elway, Craig Morton, Randy Gradishar, Dave Costa, Terrell Davis, Bubba Smith, Billy Ray Smith SR, Merlin Olsen, Tom Matte, Gayle Sayers, Mike Curtiss.

Favorite all time basketball players: Oscar Robertson, Rick Barry, Byrone Beck, Pistol Pete Maravich, Earl Monroe.

Favorite athlete of the 20th Century: Dan Gable.

Favorite singers (and bands) of all time: Marty Robbins, George Strait, Creedence Clearwater Revival.

Favorite actors: Charlton Heston, John Wayne, Kirk Douglas, Burt Lancaster, Lee Marvin, Sydney Poiter, Jimmy Stewart.

Favorite actresses: Maureen O'Hara, Natalie Wood, Hattie McDaniel, Ursula Andress (yum).

Favorite movies: Ben-Hur, The Searchers, True Grit, The Ten Commandments, Jesus of Nazareth, Braveheart, Ride the High Country.......Airplane! :laugh

Favorite sports movies:

The Stratton Story (Jimmy Stewart as Monty Stratton.
The Winning Team (Ronald Reagan as Grover Cleveland Alexander)
The Pride of the Yankees (Gary Cooper as Lou Gehrig).
Somebody Up There Likes Me (Paul Newman as Rocky Graziano)
Angels in the Outfield (1951 and 1992 versions)
Bad News Bears

Favorite sports books:

The Glory of Their Times.
The Quality of Courage (Mickey Mantle)
Guardian of the Hot Corner (Ken Boyer)
Instant Replay
My Life in Baseball, the True Record.
The Encyclopedia of Baseball.

Favorite books:

The Holy Bible
Tom Jones
Anything by Jules Verne
Anything by H.G. Wells
Anything by James Fenimore Cooper

05-02-2005, 02:10 PM
Wow, I can't believe I missed this thread all this time! Imapotato has inspired me, so I'll be as open as I comfortably can:

Name: Jason W

Age: 25
Birthdate: October 9, 1979 (born exactly one year before Matt, aka STL2)
Birthplace: Baltimore, MD... and I currently reside there
Measures: 6'0", 203 lbs
Status: single, no kids

High School: Patapsco
College: Lafayette College (Easton, PA)
Occupation: Geologist

First off, and I do consider this a privilege--I was conceived on Mt. Snow, VT, during a ski vacation. Needless to say, when the X-Games were held there I watched a lot of it.

My childhood memories are rather haphazard. There is a lot I don't remember, and for those memories that I have, I couldn't tell you much how I felt at those times. Mostly it would be either curiosity, or fear. I actually think I remember more about my ancient dreams than reality. I do remember things more vividly from middle-school onward.

I was always, always referred to as either "the smart kid", or "weird"... I'm sure a number of people here are familiar with that. I know I was way ahead of the curve as a smaller kid. I continued to push myself academically through middle and high school... probably took the most demanding schedule of anybody in that particular public system... but for what reasons I can't explain. I tend to think it was an insatiable desire to learn, and yet, it may have also been a comfort zone. I know it wasn't for the grades, or else I wouldn't have had so many zeros, I think. I'd actually do the work sometimes, and either forget to submit it, or refuse to because I didn't think it was finished.

The point of all that is coming. In 7th grade I started developing issues with auditory stimuli. Usually this would involve chewing gum or otherwise masticating loudly, or repetetively sniffling... some sort of repetetive noise. The noise would reverberate in my head until I could barely stand it. Eventually I turned to self-mutilation to distract me. One day after sticking a pencil through my hand, it was time to see a doctor.

In the year that followed, I found out that I had some form of obsessive-compulsive disorder. Not only that, but as an added bonus my psychiatrist looked to my early years, and determined that I had something called "Asperger's Syndrome"... basically a minor case of autism, which can, and I believe did, fade at puberty. Unfortunately the Syndrome has left some after-effects, most notably high anxiety and, of course, the OCD. I have subsequently been trained to cope with it, and have been taking medication.

My recommendations, AP credit and SAT scores almost got me into Brown, but the slightly low GPA brought me instead to Lafayette College. During my sophomore year there, everything fell apart. I developed a horrible case of insomnia, which after another large ordeal, took me two years to recover from (while keeping my head above water at the college). Fortunately the AP credits, coupled with a strong finish, allowed me to graduate in four years (my family couldn't afford a fifth; I was on a need-based grant already). I could look at it as sour grapes, but I choose rather to look at it as a metamorphosis... I gained a lot of maturity and social skills, made a number of friends for the first time, and even began the primal ritual of courting the opposite sex. I also discovered some mechanisms that make people tick... and that everyone has problems of their own. Given that I had my idiosyncrasies, I felt "normal" for the first time (which was intriguingly a tad unsettling).

Since I returned to Baltimore, my major (Geology) hasn't gotten me much on the local scene. I've worked here and in DC contract-to-contract. I have an interview scheduled with MDE in two weeks, and I'm looking forwared to stable employment with government benefits. I've also looked into relocation, but the most recent jobs available in this market were in Angola, Madagascar, and Kazakhstan.

ok, on to the fun stuff...

Favorite teams: Orioles, Ravens, Wizards, Leopards (Lafayette--go Pards!), UConn Huskies, MD Terps, and formerly the Goodwrench #3

Favorite atheletes during my lifetime: Dale Earnhardt, Terry Labonte, Eddie Murray, Cal and Billy Ripken, Mike Flanagan, Tony Gwynn, Randy Milligan, Peter Boulware, Rod Woodson, Edwin Mulitalo, Stockton-to-Malone, Juan Dixon, Rip Hamilton. divorced: Mike Mussina.

And, a special shout out to the Lafayette b-ball trio of Brian Ehlers, Tyson Whitfield, and Stefan Ciosici. Thanks mainly to them, I had the privilege of seeing the Pards go to the Big Dance twice!

Favorite atheletes before my lifetime: Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell, Paul Blair, Stan Musial, Artie Donovan, Lenny Moore, Alan Page, Oscar Robertson. And Bevo LeBourveau.

Least favorite teams: Yanks & Sawx, The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, Browns & Steelers, 49ers, the entire NFC East, Lakers, Duke, Duke, Lehigh, Duke, and the Dupont #24 of course

Least favorite atheletes (Sports figures): Mike Mussina, Terrell Owens, Mark Gastineau, um... gee... more of these are authority figures.

Don King, Scott Boras, Donald Fehr, Phil Jackson, Tony LaRussa, the entire NHL management system, Jack Kent Cook and the late Bob Irsay, among others.

Favorite music artists: gawd, um, that's a quagmire... by category:

classical - Franz Liszt, Felix Mendelssohn, Dmitri Shostakovich, Nobuo Uematsu
60's - CCR, Three Dog Night, The Guess Who
70's - The Who, Pink Floyd, Billy Joel, Stevie Wonder, AC/DC, Paul McCartney
80's - Peter Gabriel, Genesis, Metallica
90's - Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Sublime
current - no friggin' clue
movies/shows - John Williams, Danny Elfman, Howard Shore

*If you're a fan of classical music, and never had a chance to see Victor Borge's blend of talent and comedy, you must find it!

Favorite Books: LOTR (J.R.R. Tolkien), Hero of 1000 Faces (Joseph Campbell), the Earthsea Cycle (Ursula K. LeGuinn), and virtually anything written by Kurt Vonnegut. Looking forward to reading the Hitchhiker's Series by Douglas Adams. Big fan as a kid of A Wrinkle In Time (Madeleine L'Engle).

Favorite Movies:
drama - To Kill A Mockingbird, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, 12 Angry Men, The Conversation, Shindler's List (I'm done seeing it though), and just for fun, The Fugitive
scifi/fantasy - LOTR again (but the books definitely come first), Empire Strikes Back (just that one), Dark City, The Matrix (just the first), The Princess Bride, and recently, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
comedy - The Producers/Blazing Saddles/Young Frankenstein, Airplane/Naked Gun/Kentucky Fried Movie, Adaptation, Office Space, Groundhog Day, A Fish Called Wanda, Throw Mama From the Train, Trains/Planes/Automobiles, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Holy Grail/Life of Brian... I'll stop there. I like a lot of comedies.
horror/thriller - Alien (yes it goes here), Jaws, The Exorcist, Silence of the Lambs
animated - Grave of the Fireflies, Perfect Blue, Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, The Secret of Nymh
musicals - Chicago, All That Jazz (different movie), and yes, South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut (also qualified for animated and comedy). My list for stage would be a lot longer.

Hobbies: too many. This, for one. I've received high praise for my fictional writing... I've also been part of professional (albeit non-profit) productions of Guys & Dolls and Chess. A friend is interested in doing Arsenic & Old Lace (another comedy I forgot to mention), and has cast me as Teddy "I think I'm Roosevelt" Brewster. I've been trying to grow a mustache big enough for six months.

-whew- well, thanks for reading. I feel like I overtyped my welcome. :D
You also remind me of how many movies I've wanted to see, but haven't gotten to. I liked "Blue Velvet" but would rather not see it again... nor hear the song again... nor hear "Candy-Coated Clown of Love" for that matter. At least "Reservoir Dogs" didn't ruin "Stuck In the Middle With You"... for some reason I found that one funny.

Fargo is great; my favorite Coen Bros. film is fast becoming "O' Brother, Where Art Thou?" in case you haven't seen it, but they're all classics in my book and I think they'll leave quite a legacy.

BTW--My father was a Marine too. He was very lucky to get out when he did (just before the heaviest stuff in DaNang) with nothing but a piece of shrapnel imbedded in his shoulder (it's still there... that's another story involving a Vietnamese doctor, a pair of heavy duty pliers and a scapula). He received a Purple Heart but he won't want you to know that . After the experience, he signed up for Bethlehem Steel's Sparrows Point plant... just got in his 30 years of work before they went "kablooey" and sold to ISG. He's getting a pension, and he and I are now renovating and attempting to sell property that belonged to his late brother.

Jason's Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000487849282&ref=search)

The Splendid Splinter
05-03-2005, 12:59 AM
Bart Schutter- 6'2" 230
Age: 29
Hometown: Earl Park, IN 1984-2003,2010
Lafayette, IN 2004- 2009
Fayetteville, AR 2011-present

High School: Benton Central High School (Same as Wolverineman)
College: Ivy Tech Community College: A.S. Design Technology-specialized in Architecture; Graduated May 2010
University of Arkansas: Bachelor of Architecture

General Background:
I am what you call "legally" deaf, but I wear hearing aids. If I had to put it into % wise on how deaf I am, I would be about 95% deaf in my left ear. I just lost all my hearing in both of my ears this summer of '07. It came back in my right ear for a couple more weeks, then I lost it for the 2nd time. I am currently getting ready to get my cochlear implants later this year. I got my cochlear implant on Oct. 29th 2007 in both ear. It’s been 3 years now since I got my implants. Everything went as well as it can. My last hearing test was a couple months ago and they said I was like high 80s% of a normal hearing person. It’s amazing what some of these technologies can do for you. I now go to University of Arkansas for Architecture. I'm finally doing what I wanted to do/dream of my whole life: to become an Architect. It only took me like 7 years after high school to get there, but at least I made it and didn't quit. Earl Park is a very small town, with maybe 400 people? The only thing we're known for is our Fall Festival on Labor Day Weekend. Each day, we get up to 40,000 people during the weekend. It's like a lot of the other festivals that small towns have. Flea markets, camping ground, tractor pull, etc... Basically, it give you four days to get really really drunk and the cops don't care as long as you don't get super crazy. That's all for now. I'll add some more when I can think of something.

My dad has his own construction company for 20 years now. Before that, he worked in a lumber company. He comes from a family of 10 brothers and sisters (5 each). My mom was a secretary at a local bank for 20 years until my senior year of high school. Since then, she has basically been a housewife and doing the book works for my dad. They are some of the nicest people you'll ever meet. I have an older brother, Ben. He's 2 years older than me. He just recently got married to a wonderful girl in August. He went to school for a couple years, then dropped out. Now he's following dad's footsteps into the company. He recently started a fighting company called Knucklehead Fighters. He's really into MMA/UFC.

I have just been working with my dad over the last couple summers, doing construction work. Doing anything from putting in a window to build a house. I’m getting ready to graduate soon so I’ll have to start looking for a real job now. I’m hoping to get into an architecture firm with a low level position and work my way up. I have also been thinking about going to HOK as well for a job. Well... work is on hold (for now) as since I'm working on my Bachelor in Architecture.

My passion for BB:
I don't know how I got into BB. It was probably my great grandpa. He died 107 years old in 2001. But throughout his life, he wrote journals about sports and the players through the years. So he got to see guys like Cy Young, Albert Pujols, Bobby Jones, Jim Thorpe, Ty Cobb, Satchal Paige, Mickey Mantle, Jack Nicklaus, Jim Brown, Bill Russell, Michael Jordan, etc. When he died, in his will, he gave me his journals. I was always into sports and played sports. Played BB until my 9th grade year. (hated the Varsity coach, even though the seniors wanted me to play cuz they thought I would've started as a 2nd, and one of the seniors played at 2nd) Played basketball until 9th grade. (hated the Varsity coach -see a pattern here?) The reason I hated those coaches was because they didn't want to spend time working with me because I wasn't from a certain family in my county. Like if your mom or dad was a good athlete or had money or something special, coaches would've paid attention to you and work with you. And another reason, I was born deaf and wear hearing aids in both ears and I guess it was too much work for them to say things 2 or 3 or sometime 4 times so I can actually hear them. Oh well... their loss. Anyway, enough of that, another sport I played was golf. This was my favorite sport. I played all four years in high school. My best was 3 under 31 on 9 (tied school record) and 73 on 18 in a match. I just recently shot a 69 last summer, with a 4 under 32 back 9 so that's my best on both 9 and 18.

I walked on at Ball State for golf, but I didn't get to play in any events. I just practiced with the team and the coach worked with me, telling me I was a project for the future. But sport and college was too much for me.

Favorite Things To Do:
Drawing, Painting, Playing Sports, Working Out, Learning the history of Baseball, Reading here on BBF, Dancing (experienced break dancer), Watch Movies, Listen to Music, Going to Concerts, Hanging Out with Friends, Partying, Playing Wa-Shoos

Favorite Movies:
A lot to choose from... Star Wars, Lords of the Ring, Troy, 300, Hero, Fight Club, Dazed and Confused, The Boondock Saints, Magnolia, The Dark Crystal, The Hangover, Labyrinth, to name a few.... I'm a huge movie fanatic. I could go on and on....

Best-Made Movies:
Exorcist I, Lord of the Rings trilogy, Teminator I, Silence of the Lambs, Troy, 300, Matrix, Star Wars (1-6), Psycho, Pulp Ficton, The Deer Hunter, Indiana Jones trilogy, Jaws, Aliens, Seven, Saw, KIDS, (Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels), Amelie

Favorite Movie Directors:
Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, Steven Spielberg, Michael Bay, James Cameron, Sam Raimi, Oliver Stone, Martin Scorsese, George Lucas, Paul Thomas “PT” Anderson (he did Boogie Nights, Magnolia- not the guy who did Resident Evil 1 and 2)

Favorite Actors:
Samuel L. Jackson, John Travolta, Nicholas Cage, Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman, Kevin Costner, Bruce Willis, Johnny Depp, Tom Cruise, Hugh Jackman, Jet Li, Matthew McConaughey, Steven Seagal, Jean-Claude Van Damme

Favorite Actresses:
Uma Thurman, Rene Russo, Angelina Jolie, Halle Berry, Selma Hayek, Charlize Theron, Heather Graham, Natalie Portman, Denise Richards, Alyssa Milano, Ashley Judd, Eliza Dushku, Keira Knightley, Eva Mendes, Meagan Good, Rosario Dawson

Favorite TV Shows:
Family Guy, The Boondocks, Heroes, Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis, Iron Chef America, Man vs. Food, Doctor Who, Good Eats, Sanctuary, Destination Truth, Warehouse 13

Favorite Books:
Illiad, Odyssey, by Homer
A Midsummer’s Night Dream, Hamlet, Much Ado About Nothing, Winters Tale, MacBeth, Romeo and Juliet, Othello, by William Shakespeare
Journey to the Center of the Earth, 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, by Jules Verne
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain
Dracula, by Bram Stoker
The Island of Doctor Moreau, by H. G. Wells
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, by Washington Irving
Lord of the Rings trilogy books, by J. R. R. Tolkien
The Great Gatsby, by F. Scott Fitzgerald
Canterbury Tales, by Geoffrey Chaucer
King Arthur and Knights of Round Table, by Thomas Mallory
Poetics, by Aristole
Story of My Life, by Helen Keller
War and Peace, by Leo Tolstoy

Favorite Bands:
again, a lot to choose... Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Audioslave, BT (techno DJ), Eric Clapton, Guns N Roses, John Mellencamp, Kenny Chesney, Led Zeppelin, The Who, Nelly, Usher, Nine Inch Nails, Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Snoop Dogg, Garth Brooks, Steve Miller Band, Tom Petty, The Eagles, The Doors; I pretty much listen to anything... You'll see all of the different music styles that I listen to when you see my favorite tunes list.

Music I Don't Care For:
The only music that I don’t care for really are… Gospel, Latin, Broadway, Opera.

Favorite Rock Geniuses:
Paul McCartney, John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Bob Marley, Elton John, John Fogerty, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain, Trent Reznor, Robert Plant, Jimmy Page

Favorite Voices:
David Ruffin, Eddie Kendricks, Frankie Vallie, Aretha Franklin, Carol King, Stevie Wonder, Bono, Robert Plant, Jim Morrison, Eddie Vedder, Marvin Gaye, Mary J. Blige, Alicia Keys

Favorite Rock Tunes: there's so many more I could definitely add here... I got like 2600+ songs, but I'll give you an idea with this list.

Revolution (Beatles)
Me & Bobbie McGee (Janis Joplin)
Oh What A Night (Frankie Vallie & the Four Seasons)
Days Go By (Dirty Vegas) techno...
I Am The Highway (Audioslave)
Change (Blind Melon)
No Woman No Cry (Bob Marley)
Let Me Take You Tonight (Boston)
Cuts Like A Knife (Bryan Adams)
Tripping the Light Fantastic (BT) techno…
Big Yellow Taxi (Counting Crows)
Satellite (Dave Matthews Band)
My Girl (The Temptations)
All (DJ Rap) Songs techno...
Organ Donor (DJ Shadow) techno…
A Tear Into The Open (DJ Tiesto) techno… (something about this vocal in this song in the beginning that just drawn me in…)
Tears In Heaven (Eric Clapton)
All (Fleetwood Mac) Songs
Killing Me Softly (The Fugees)
The River (Garth Brooks)
Asleep (Godsmack)
All (Daft Punk) Songs techno...
You’re The One (Guerilla Black)
Sweet Child O’ Mine (Guns N Roses)
Family Traditions (Hank Williams Jr.)
A Country Boy Can Survive (Hank Williams Jr.)
Never Been Any Reason (Head East) it’s my parents’ song…
Talk Show On Mute (Incubus)
Rosie (Jackson Browne)
Roadie Song (Jackson Browne)
All (John Mellencamp) Songs
Making Memories Of Us (Keith Urban)
Back Where I Come From (Kenny Chesney)
Going To California (Led Zeppelin)
Tuesday’s Gone (Lynyrd Skynyrd)
I Heard It Through The Grapevine (Marvin Gaye)
Old Man (Neil Young)
12:51 (The Strokes)
Lapdance (N.E.R.D.)
Utha Side (Nelly)
We’re In This Together Now (Nine Inch Nails)
You Know You’re Right (Nirvana) and also all of their songs...
Somewhere Out There (Our Lady Peace)
I’ll Be (Edwin McCain)
All (Pearl Jam) Songs
In The Air Tonight (Phil Collins)
English Summer Rain (Placebo)
Idioteque (Radiohead)
All (Red Hot Chili Peppers) Songs
Losing My Religion (REM)
Ridin’ The Storm Out (REO Speedwagon)
Hunger Strike (Temple Of The Dog) a super band consist of Pearl Jam and Soundgarden that made one album...
Maggie May (Rod Stewart)
Adia (Sarah McLachlan)
Crazy (Seal)
All (Sevendust) Songs
Tonight, Tonight (Smashing Pumpkins)
Konstantine (Something Corporate)
Limo Wreck (Soundgarden)
Copperhead Road (Steve Earle)
All (Steve Miller Band) Songs
Superstition (Stevie Wonder)
Good Times Roll (The Cars)
Longsong (The Cure)
All (The Doors) Songs
All (The Eagles) Songs
Subject To Change (The June Spirit)
Can’t You See (The Marshall Tucker Band)
Seed 2.0 (The Roots)
Baba O’Reiley (The Who)
No Surprise (Theory Of A Deadman)
Beer For My Horses (Toby Keith)
All (Tom Petty) Songs
Lateralus (Tool)
California Love (2Pac & Dr. Dre)
All (U2) Songs
Caught Up (Usher)
Regulate (Warren G)
All (AC/DC) Songs
Let's Push Things Forward (The Streets)

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century:
Ty Cobb, Barry Sanders, Bobby Jones, Tiger Woods, Steve Prefontaine, Jim Thorpe, Jim Brown, Jesse Owens, Babe Didrikson Zaharias, Honus Wagner, Michael Jordan, Mohammed Ali, Wilt Chamberlain, Carl Lewis, Oscar Charleston, Bo Jackson

Favorite Baseball Players:
Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Ichiro, Shoeless Joe, Ted Williams, Sammy Sosa, Nolan Ryan, Greg Maddux, Rube Waddell, Mark Prior, George Sisler, Oscar Charleston, Stachal Paige, Smokey Joe Williams, Pop Lloyd, Starlin Castro, Mike Trout

Favorite Basketball Players:
Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Dr. J., Jason Kidd, Magic Johnson, Shaq, Oscar Roberton (my grandpa got to see him and played against him in high school)

Favorite Football Players:
Walter Payton, Barry and Deion Sanders, Jerry Rice, Reggie White, Brett Farve, Brian Urlacher, Eddie George, Randy Moss, Peyton Manning, Julius Peppers, Brandon Marshall

Favorite UFC fighters:
Georges St-Pierre, Royce Gracie, Frank Mir, Randy Couture, Victor Belfort, Wanderlei "The Axe Murderer" Silva, Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, Dan "Hollywood" Henderson, BJ Penn, Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, Jon Jones

Men I admire Most:
Jesus, Budda, Socrates, Plato
Michael Jordan, 1963-present
Leonardo Da Vinci, 1452-1519
Winston Churchill, 1874-1965
Ty Cobb, 1887-1961
William Shakespeare, 1564-1616
Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948
Martin Luther King, Jr., 1929-68
Romero Britto, 1963-present (artist)
Thomas Jefferson, 1743-1826
Albert Einstein, 1879-1955
Hannibal, 247 BC-183 BC
Alfred Gockel, 1952-present (artist)
Mohammed Ali, 1942-present
Dali Llama, 1935-present, 13th in Tibetan lineage.
George Washington, 1732-1799
Pablo Picasso, 1881-1973 (artist)

I just really enjoy reading threads on Baseball Fever. Keep up the good work guys.
Great music... Pearl Jam rocks man. Got to see them in concert twice, hopefully to see them for the third time on the next tour they go out.
I don't have a website, but I do have a few artworks saved on my computer. I love to draw and paint. Right now, I'm currently working on a 6 foot by 9 foot painting (or mural) on my bedroom wall. I would share my stuff if you guys want to see them.
The Soft Parade is a great song. But I liked Riders on the Storm or The End better though.

Other songs that could top as the masterpiece of Rock:

Smells Like Teen Spirit, by Nirvana
Baba O'Reilly (Teenage Wasteland), by The Who
Take your pick on any AC/DC song - They are THE rock and roll band...
Slow Ride, by Foghat (I just love this song, and watch Dazed and Confused all the time.)
Quite a few Guns N Roses song.. (Appetite For Destruction- my top 5 best Rock CD of all time)
Any Led Zeppelin songs (my favorites are Going to California, Over the Hills And Far Away, and Misty Mountain Hop.)
And same with Pink Floyd...
Voodoo Child or All Along The Watchtower, by Jimi Hendrix

Photos of me:

The people in the pic are like this: Jasmine (cousin), Ben (brother), Me, Clayton (cousin), Amy (cousin), Brady (friend, but like a brother), Andrea (cousin)...

here you go Bill.... 1st pic is of my brother and his wife then 2nd pic is my parents...

God, you look so like your Mom it's not even funny. The funny thing is, Bart, that I had imagined you as a thin, little guy. I can't think of you without also thinking of BoSox Rule. You both have this Boston thing going.

Yeah I know I look like my mom a lot and my brother looks like my dad. The weird part is that everybody think I'm a spitting image of my grandpa on my mom's side when he was young instead of I look like my mom. I'm one of those "hit or miss" with my brother. Some people say either we look a lot alike or we don't. I think I know maybe a handful of people who said that we look somewhat similar.

You imagine me as a thin, little guy?? haha That's funny. The last time I was skinny was ummm... probably never(not even when I was born cuz I was 22 inches long and 9 lbs baby).

05-03-2005, 01:11 AM
I was always, always referred to as either "the smart kid", or "weird"... I'm sure a number of people here are familiar with that. I know I was way ahead of the curve as a smaller kid. I continued to push myself academically through middle and high school... probably took the most demanding schedule of anybody in that particular public system... but for what reasons I can't explain. I tend to think it was an insatiable desire to learn, and yet, it may have also been a comfort zone. I know it wasn't for the grades, or else I wouldn't have had so many zeros, I think. I'd actually do the work sometimes, and either forget to submit it, or refuse to because I didn't think it was finished.

The point of all that is coming. In 7th grade I started developing issues with auditory stimuli. Usually this would involve chewing gum or otherwise masticating loudly, or repetitively sniffling... some sort of repetitive noise. The noise would reverberate in my head until I could barely stand it. Eventually I turned to self-mutilation to distract me. One day after sticking a pencil through my hand, it was time to see a doctor.

In the year that followed, I found out that I had some form of obsessive-compulsive disorder. Not only that, but as an added bonus my psychiatrist looked to my early years, and determined that I had something called "Asperger's Syndrome"... basically a minor case of autism, which can, and I believe did, fade at puberty. Unfortunately the Syndrome has left some after-effects, most notably high anxiety and, of course, the OCD. I have subsequently been trained to cope with it, and have been taking medication.

I have several of the same issues, Aspergers, real social issues, social anxiety (talking to people that I don't know is extremely difficult for me), auditory stimuli drives me crazy, some obsessive-compulsive issues. My wife laughs because I won't walk on the grass at school. I have difficulty functioning sometimes if my routines are upset.

I think baseball appeals to people with Aspergers because of the structure of the game.

I loved playing baseball at the schoolyard as a kid. I played on organized teams, but never liked that much. My friends and I preferred playing 4 on 4 or 5 on 5 with no adults around.

I like baseball at the ballpark and the radio but not so much on TV. My interest in the game is on the wane a little bit. I think I'm more interested in the games history than the game on the field right now.
Wamby responding to Splendid Splinter:
I feel for you. I've worked with deaf and hard of hearing people and have met more than a few people who equate deafness with lack of intelligence. I was always a small kid and adults on teams wouldn't give me the time of day. By the time I was 11 I only wanted to play ball in the neighborhood and stopped playing on organized teams when I was 12. I did try out for freshman baseball when I was in the 9th grade and got about three swings as a tryout. After that I have never played on any kind of organized team.

I also know how it feels to have stuff repeated to you. I have processing difficulties and almost always need instructions repeated to me 2 or 3 times. Some people get a little condescending about doing that. It drove (still drives) my dad crazy. It doesn't help much at work (lol).
addendum on Dad:
My father refused to attend my wedding last year and I have to admit that I am still a little pissed about it. This has knocked him down a couple of pegs in my feelings about him.

For that matter, my father-in-law also refused to attend.

Say Hey
05-14-2005, 06:09 PM
Name: Ryan
Location:Lakeville, Minnesota

I was born in Detroit and lived their until last year. I've been playing Baseball since I was 5 years old. I now play on my High School team for the JV squad. I am a starting centerfielder. I'm a pretty good contact hitter (BA .300-.370) and I can hit for power. When I do go on base I usually steal because I am a fast runner from my track experience. I also play Football and Basketball. I'm an average player at each of them. I'm a pretty good student, I maintain a 3.4 grade point average.

Favorite Athletes: Willie Mays, Gordie Howe, TY Cobb, Steve Yzerman, Brendan Shanahan, Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax, Isaiah Thomas, Ben Wallace, Chauncy Billups, Tayshaun Prince, Rasheed Wallace, Richard Hamilton, Maurice Richard, Bobby Hull, Barry Sanders, Jim Brown, Dick Butkus, Joe Dimaggio, Nick Lidstrom, Hank Aaron and more.

Movies: Rocky, Boyz N' The 'Hood, Don't Be A Menace, Menace To Society, Rudy, Gladiator (The one with Cuba Gooding JR in it), Caddy Shack, Rambo Movies 1 and 2, Slap Shot, The Godfather, Goodfellows, Saving Private Ryan, and We Were Soldiers.

Actors: Stallone, Arnold Shwarzeneggar, Mel Gibson, Adam Sandler, Ben Stiller, Cuba Gooding Jr., and Clint Eastwood.

Bands: The Temptations, The Miracles, The Four Topps, The Stylistics, Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes, Marvin Gaye, Al Green, The Isley Brothers, Brian Mcknight, AC/DC, Aerosmith, Sweet, The Who, Teddy Pendergrass, The Animals, Luther Vandross, Bobby Vinton, and The Commodors.

Sport Teams: Detroit Tigers, Red Wings, Pistons, and Lions. The Pittsburgh Pirates, and Steelers.
I stopped running track when I was 13, when I did run track the practices ended a few hours before I had to go to baseball. We rarely had meets on the same days I had baseball but when we did I choose to go to baseball instead of the track meets.

05-15-2005, 06:14 PM
Name: Sam

Age: 20

Home: born and raised in Baltimore, where I still live when I'm not at school down at College Park.

Schooling: St. Agnes School, K-8
Cardinal Gibbons High School (formerly St. Mary's Industrial School for Boys, alma mater of sorts of Babe Ruth) 9-12
University of Maryland, College Park. Currently finishing up my sophomore year.

Employment: Worked the past two summers at the Cal Ripken, Sr. Foundation and this past year have started working with the Maryland Media Relations Department at sporting events like football, mens and womens basketball, lacrosse, field hockey, softball, and swimming.

I like all four of the major sports, and am suffering through a spring without the NHL Playoffs. But I've been a lifelong O's fan, attended my first game at Memorial Stadium in 1987 against Seattle at the age of 2. Since then, I've been at several of the big moments in Orioles history--the last win (second-to-last game) at Memorial Stadium, the first game at Oriole Park, Cal's games 2130 and 2131, Eddie Murray's first game back with the team in 1996, an Orioles playoff game from the 1997 ALCS, Cal's second-to-last game (in which he got his last hit, and also one of the only games in which both Tim Raines and Tim Raines Jr. played for the Orioles).

Hobbies: I collect hats--have at least one of every Major League team. I also collect music.

Favorite Books: Confessions of a Baseball Purist by Jon Miller, America by Jon Stewart, Chronicles by Bob Dylan

Favorite Movies: The Godfather Parts I and II (III isn't as bad as people say, but it isn't up to the standards of the first two), Blazing Saddles, History of the World Part 1, Robin Hood Men in Tights, Monty Python's Holy Grail & Life of Brian, Forrest Gump, Mars Attacks, Zoolander, Office Space, Dr. Strangelove, Ray, Dodgeball, A Hard Day's Night, Happy Gilmore

Favorite Actors: Marlon Brando, Al Pacino, Jack Nicholson, Will Ferrell, Vince Vaughan

Favorite Bands: The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Cream/Eric Clapton solo, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Who, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, Pink Floyd, The Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, The Kinks, David Bowie.

Favorite Songs: Beatles-I Am the Walrus, A Day in the Life, Come Together, Hey Jude, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, In My Life, Back in the USSR, Dear Prudence, Help!, Revolution, the second half of Abbey Road.

Rolling Stones-Gimme Shelter, Paint It Black, Honky Tonk Woman, Sympathy for the Devil, Satisfaction, Don't Stop, Wild Horses, It's Only Rock and Roll.

Bob Dylan-Subterranean Homesick Blues, Highway 61 Revisited, Don't Think Twice It's Alright, I Want You, Like a Rolling Stone, It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding), Knockin' on Heaven's Door, Rainy Day Woman #12 & 35.

Cream/Eric Clapton solo-White Room, Sunshine of Your Love, Strange Brew, Tales of Brave Ulysses, SWLABR, Layla, After Midnight, Crossroads, Cocaine, Bell Bottom Blues, Tears in Heaven.

The Jimi Hendrix Experience-Voodoo Child (Slight Return), All Along the Watchtower, If 6 Was 9, The Star Spangled Banner, Foxey Lady, Are You Experienced, Machine Gun.

The Who-Baba O'Riley, Who Are You (nice title to this thread, btw :D), I Can See For Miles, Behind Blue Eyes, Won't Get Fooled Again, Magic Bus, Pinball Wizard.

Led Zeppelin-Dazed and Confused, Kashmir, When the Levee Breaks, Immigrant Song, Whole Lotta Love, Rock and Roll, The Battle of Evermore, Stairway to Heaven, D'yer Mak'er, Ramble On.

The Doors-The End, Touch Me, Hello I Love You, Twentieth Century Fox, Break On Through (to the Other Side), Roadhouse Blues, Alabama Song (Whiskey Bar).

Pink Floyd-Money, Another Brick in the Wall Part II, Comfortably Numb, Wish You Were Here.

The Grateful Dead-Friend of the Devil, Dire Wolf, Casey Jones, Touch of Grey, Cumberland Blues, Uncle John's Band.

Jefferson Airplane-White Rabbit, Somebody to Love, She has Funny Cars, 3/5 of a Mile in 10 Seconds.

The Kinks-Tired of Waiting, Dedicated Follower of Fashion, Lola, A Well Respected Man, Come Dancing, You Really Got Me, All Day and All of the Night.

David Bowie-Space Oddity, Suffragette City, Ziggy Stardust, Fame, Ashes to Ashes, Young Americans, Rebel Rebel.

Others: Dancing in the Street (Martha and the Vandellas), Papa Was a Rolling Stone (Temptations), Exodus (Bob Marley and the Wailers), Imagine/Watching the Wheels (John Lennon), Hi Hi Hi/Mull of Kintyre/Band on the Run (Paul McCartney and Wings), My Sweet Lord (George Harrison), Call Me (Blondie), London Calling/Train in Vain (The Clash), Blitzkrieg Bop/Teenage Lobotomy (The Ramones), The Weight (The Band), Sunday Papers (Joe Jackson), Billie Jean (Michael Jackson).

That was long, wasn't it? :o

Favorite Current Athletes: Miguel Tejada, Melvin Mora, Ray Lewis, Jamal Lewis, Ed Reed, Juan Dixon, Steve Blake, Lonny Baxter

Favorite Past Athletes: Cal Ripken, Brooks Robinson, Frank Robinson, Jim Palmer, Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Johnny Unitas, Yogi Berra, Michael Jordan, Patrick Roy, Magic Johnson

OK I think I'm done...finally :).

06-13-2005, 05:24 AM
First Name:Chris


Sorry I haven't checked in earlier here...anyway....

I live in Western Mass, right outside of Springfield. I was born in 1992, and I started enjoying baseball starting in 1997. My first real memory of watching the game was in that sesaon. I remember watching Edgar Renteria getting the game winning single and the Marlins winning the World Series. I guess I could have ended up a Marlins fan after that, but I didn't. I've never had a true and absolute favorite team, one that I lived and died following. I followed the Expos quite a bit, and that has continued when they've moved to Washington. They're probably my favorite team to pick one. I saw them play the Red Sox earler this year, almost caught a foul ball hit by Coco Crisp. My favorite players growing up were Barry Bonds and Frank Thomas (I remember watching him in '97, tracking his hits hoping incessantly he would win the batting title. He did, much to my pleasure). I never really saw the peak Thomas except for in '97, but I'm sure he was awesome.

Where did my baseball passion start? There's no real history behind it, my father was a huge baseball fan and even coached the local high school team, so I just liked the game like him. He was a Yankees fan, and has been watching the game since 1965. His favorite players growing up were Bobby Murcer and Roy White. He became a Red Sox fan (broke away from his father, my grandfather) and has remained with the Red Sox ever since. His Red Sox favorite was Fred Lynn.

I enjoy playing baseball as well as football, I've always been a very good football player, and good at baseball as well. As far as heights and weights, following up on a theme, I'm about 5 foot one and 107 pounds. Not fat at all either. Like EH I have recently taken to going to local gym, preparing for high school sports, particularly football (nowadays you absolutely need to lift to be good at that).

Favorite Athletes (non baseball)-Shaquille O'Neal, Deuce McAllister, Gale Sayers, Tom Brady, Rasheed Wallace, Wilt Chamberlain, Julius Erving

Favorite Baseball players: Willie Mays, Oscar Charleston, Reggie Jackson, Joe Morgan, Rickey Henderson, Lou Gehrig, Mike Schmidt, Barry Bonds Tim Raines, and Manny Ramirez

Favorite Football RBs (past and present)-Gale Sayers, Deuce McAllister, Marcus Allen, Priest Holmes, Chuck Muncie, Corey Dillon, Jim Brown

Favorite Songs:

"California Love" - 2Pac & Dr. Dre
"Hit 'Em Up" - 2Pac
"In da Club" - 50 Cent
"Nuthin' but a 'G' Thang" - Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg
"Strictly Business" - EPMD
"Mind Playing Tricks on Me" - Geto Boys
"The Message" - Grandmaster Flash
"Ha" - Juvenile
"Express Yourself" - N.W.A.
"Straight Outta Compton" - N.W.A.
"O.P.P." - Naughty by Nature
"Juicy" - Notorious B.I.G.
"Everyday Struggle" - Notorious B.I.G.
"Ms. Jackson" - OutKast
"Fight the Power" - Public Enemy
"Rebel Without a Pause" - Public Enemy
"Prophets of Rage" - Public Enemy
"Welcome to the Terrordome" - Public Enemy
"C'mon 'N Ride It (The Train)" - Quad City DJ's
"It Takes Two" - Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock
"It's Like That" - Run-DMC
"What You Know" - T.I.

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06-13-2005, 10:51 AM
My name is Chris

Born in Amsterdam, The Netherlands in 1967.

I learned about baseball in 1981. From that year I am a passionate Yankee fan.

I went to University in 1988 to study political science. But in 1991, I decided to stop because of my mother's illness. She died in 1992. This was a huge blow to me. I really got a great support by my wife.

I started playing baseball in 1991, after a softball "career" of 4 years.

Married with Sylvia in 1994.

In 1995 I visited my first two MLB games, both at Dodger Stadium. One against the Phillies. In this game I saw Hideo Nomo pitch. He was awesome.

Oldest daughter Kayleigh (named after the song of Marillion) was born in 1996

Lived in Amsterdam until 1997. Moved up to Hoorn (about 50 km North of Amsterdam).

Youngest daughter Nienke was born in 1998.

Moved to the Southern part of the Netherlands (near the Belgian border) in 2001. This was a temporary end of my baseball playing days.

This year I started playing again. But hell is that though. I never was a good batter, but this year it is worse than ever.

My favorite book is The Secret History by Donna Tart.

My favorite sports book The Baseball Hall of Shame series by Zullo and Nash.

Favorite movie: Dances with Wolves.

Favorite music: (hard) rock, classical music (Mozart, Beethoven f.e.), Jazz (most Michael Brecker). I absolutely hate R&B.

Favorite sports: Absolute nr. 1 is baseball. Other favorite sports are (ice)hockey, basketball, skiing, inline skating. I like to do the last two sports my self.

People I admire: My wife. I really admire the way she is able to run our house besides her tough job. We split duties as much as possible but still...

06-13-2005, 12:17 PM
My name is Robert

I am 19

Born in Westerville, OH in 1985, moved to Tacoma in '89 and live there until '03 (go Rainier's!), and am currently living in north Seattle going to college.

I am looking to get into the medical field (Radiology Technician, and then on to a Radiologist), I've got a year to wait to see if that happens.

Until I hear anything on that, I will probably still be stuck at my low paying retail job, but that is the life...

I play the saxophone, and have for the past 9, almost 10 years. I started in 5th grade and played all through high school. I am certainly not the greatest out there (or am I the worst). My highlights of my playing "career" includes when I was in high school, I was able to go and play at the Lionel Hampton Jazz Festival in Moscow...Idaho that is! Was an alternate for the All-State band, and I have cut 2 CD's with a Jazz group that I played with (not sold in stores! I probably have the only copies left anyways!).

My biggest love is reading, I love it, whether it is about baseball, sci-fi, whatever it is, I like it. Some of my accomplishments include:

Leo Tolstoy's, War and Peace (boy was THAT a doozy!)
John Jakes, Homeland (think war and peace in length, just easier to read)
I have finished several of John Jakes series - the Kent family Chronicles, his Australian
series - historical fiction - great reads)
Homer's, The Iliad, and The Odyssey
Jane Austin's, Pride and Prejudice, and Sense and Sensibility (I had a serious classical period, OK!)
M.M. Kaye's, The Far Pavilions
Currently, I am on a lot of John Grisham's - read all of them! And Tom Clancy.
Other favorite authors include Robert Ludlum and Alistair McLain (not sure on the spelling)

I personally don't play baseball, just can't hit a thing. Never played on a team, and at this point, no one would let me on one! I grew up playing soccer, and was pretty good if I do say so myself. I could have played on some better teams, but was restricted due to financial difficulties, and the fact that there were 6 kids my mom had to take places every week, but I can't complain. I stopped playing soccer in 9th grade, but I am now looking to get back into it. I ran track in middle school, but in high school moved to cross country. My freshman year I was an alternate for state, but didn't keep up with it, and never made it. I am making up for it now, and am training right now for a marathon this fall/winter.

Now on to what you really want to hear.

I did not grow up with baseball being a part of my life, all of my friends played, so I would join a pick up game here and there, but nothing regular (unfortunately I cant catch, hit, or throw, so that leaves me out most of the time). It wasn't until 1995 that I first started paying attention to baseball - you don't know how beautiful that double was. Edgar was my man from that point on. I started watching more after that , but it wasn't a focal point yet. The Mcgwire/Sosa run kept me in the game, but steroids kept me away. If fact, I hardly watched a single game in 2000, I was just too busy with other things, but I kept tabs in the newspapers and highlight reels. The the 2001 season began, and I wasn't into the season, until I started hearing about this amazing throw by some new Japanese player...Ever since then I have been hooked. I know this makes me very new to the game and all, but I am certainly trying to make up for lost time. I have hardly missed a game since 2 weeks in to the '01 season, and ever since joining this site, I have just learned to love this sport even more. I currently have the opportunity to live vicariously through one of my younger cousins who is an amazingly talented kid, and can play any sport out there and is the best at all of them, yet his number one is Baseball!

Favorite Active players:
Griffey jr.
Scott Podsednik (saw him play in Tacoma)
A-rod (just love to hate him)
Carlos Guillen (one of the worst trades ever)
Randy Johnson (I have always wondered, what would happen if he were a Yankee - just be glad this wasn't last year)

Favorite retired players:
1-100.) Edgar Martinez
101.) Edgar Martinez
102.) Edgar Martinez
103.) Ted Williams (so far, nobody on my list can field a ball!)
102.) Jay "the Bone" Buhner (just love those '90's Mariners) - up yours Yankee's!

Player's I don't like:
1.) Pedro Martinez - He destroys the Mariner's everytime - has never lost a game to us :D
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06-13-2005, 03:13 PM
Bill - I am very sorry I didn't see this thread much, much sooner. I was totally unaware of your health problem, but did notice your absence for a while and wondered what the hell happened! Glad to hear you have made a full recovery and are working like a fine watch once again. This thread was a great idea! :clapping It is very interesting to read about the divergent backgrounds that come together on this site, all through the love of baseball. I imagine most have abandoned this thread, but as you and I have a "history", I will attempt to follow your original format, and tell you about my life, such as it is.

Lewis J. Snyder
Born: May 18, 1951 (share this birthday with Brooks Robinson and Reggie Jackson) in Jamestown, Chautauqua County, New York.
Lived here my entire life, except for four months active duty at Fort Knox in 1971.

Education: K thru 9 at SS. Peter and Paul Roman Catholic School. Three years at Jamestown High School, 66th out of 587 (biggest graduating class ever - boomers!). Started at Jamestown Community college, but never finished.

Passion for Baseball: I don't really know how it happened. Started playing the sport through my older brother, and just loved it. Once I started, I couldn't get enough! Wanted to play every day. Always sandlot as a youth. My friends and I would go to the ballfield in the morning and not return home until supper time. I remember playing in February, during a thaw! Once I started working as a teenager (for my dad in his sign business), I would paint and erect signs all day, then pick up my friends in the stake truck and head out to the ballfield until dark. Got away from the game for a while after high school, but then played some softball with the department team one summer, and fell in love all over again. Played softball 17 years (managed the team 10 of those years), then joined an over-40 baseball team. Man, I loved that! Played on the team for 11 years. Finally quit because the team's need to win overcame having a good time. Played every position in baseball. At the end, I was pitching and catching, wearing uniform number 24 (hence, catcher24). I still take my batting tee up to a local field a few times a year and hit some balls. I used to spend hours in the winter playing Strat-O-Matic baseball. It was (and is) a great game. I now spend time with Out of the Park, Version 6.

Work: Worked in a factory assembling voting machines for 3 1/2 years. Didn't care for that much, so took some civil service tests and ended up a deputy sheriff. Have been doing that for 32 years now (1973 to present). I'll be retiring about this time next year. Have worked the road; as a juvenile investigator; in the courts; in our lake/snowmobile unit; and am now the day shift road supervisor. Getting too old to fight with drunks one-third my age; getting tired of car accidents; and the unattended deaths and suicides are a real bummer. 338 days to go, but who's counting!

Married the first time 14 years, two children who are now 30 (son) and 26 (daughter). The second time has worked out much better and I think it will last. A wonderful woman who puts up with my other love (baseball). 20th anniversary this October; one daughter, age 17 and graduating high school next week.

Hobbies: Reading; listening to music; hiking; geocaching; visiting ballparks; visiting lighthouses; and of course, the web, especially BBF. I am also a member of the Friends of the Hall of Fame.

Favorite ballplayers: Lou Gehrig, Willie Mays (you could tell just by watching how much he loved to play), Stan Musial, Cal Ripken, Nolan Ryan, Sam McDowell, Honus Wagner, Walter Johnson, many,many others.

Favorite Movies: Not much of a movie fan, but I enjoyed Superman; Field of Dreams; Bull Durham. Many movies I watched with my daughter as she grew up. And I have to make sure I see one version or another of A Christmas Carol each yule season.

Rock Bands: I enjoy the 60's and 70's music. Beatles, Dave Clark 5, Herman's Hermits, Four Seasons, CCR. Also enjoy John Denver. I lean now towards non-vocal music: Giovanni; Yanni; Narada; Chip Davis and Mannheim Steamroller; Wayne Gratz - a lot of New Age stuff.

No comment on athletes in other sports. I always figured the only real sport is baseball. All of the others were invented to fill the time between the end of the World Series and the start of spring training! I do watch football in the fall.

Favorite Books:

The Image of Their Greatness - Ritter/Honig
The Glory of Their Times - Lawrence Ritter (Just a fabulous book, and whetted my appetite to learn more about the oldtimers)
Voices From Cooperstown - Anthony Connor (Similar to Glory of Their Times)
Bill James Historical Abstract and New Historical Abstract
The Iron Horse - Ray Robinson
Sherlock Holmes by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (the entire series is great)
A Christmas Carol - Charles Dickens

Well, Bill, I hope this helps you know a little about me. Wishing you all the best!
addendum on Dad:
Dad and mom separated when I was about three. Mom raised four of us. I think it drove her crazy, because she hasn't been right since then.
Dad owned a sign business (him and usually one helper during the winter; three or four during the summer - busy months). Naturally, I worked for him after school and summers. Not necessarily a good thing. Didn't play baseball in high school because dad objected - needed me to work. I did appreciate the fact that he took us once a year to Cleveland or Pittsburgh for a ballgame. I really can't say he is a hero figure to me - wish I could. However, it always seemed his friends and trumpet playing (he did that evenings and weekends) were usually more important than the family. He finally divorced mom (Nevada) after, like, 17 years of separation. My relationship with dad is, well....different, I guess, would describe it.

Originally posted by neverjustagame:
Dads that think you are not good enough for their daughters.

Scott,you don't have any daughters, do you, or you would understand completely! :laugh

Your bio is especially interesting to me. I have a younger brother who lives in Columbia, SC. He makes neon signs. He's lived in SC about 28 years now. I also have an older brother who got his medical degree from the USC, Columbia - his was actually the first medical doctor class to graduate from the Columbia campus - all 33 of them. He lives and practices in North Carolina now. Saw the Cards play one time, in Pittsburgh in 1963. Wanted to see the Cards because I was a big Stan Musial fan. Saw Stan go 0 for 3 and make an error on an easy fly to left, but at least I saw him play in person. That was also the game at which I got my only in-person autograph - Minnie Minoso.

Posted by RuthMayBond:
Glad to hear someone else had their first game at ol' Municipal

Well add me to that list as well. June, 1961. My dad drove us out to old Municipal to see the Yankees. I don't live too far south of Eden - about 50 miles. RMB knows where - he's driven past!
As with Shoelessjoe3, the impression the ballpark made was amazing - and indelible. The grass was greener than green; the infield looked so smooth you thought you could shoot marbles on it. The baselines and balls were snow white. Everything was perfect. To this day, I'll go out of my way to see a ballpark, whether there is a game going on or not. Did it on vacation last week actually. Was in Charlotte, so drove down to see Knights Stadium across the line in South Carolina. Couldn't stay for the game later that evening, but had to see the park!

Thanks to bbref, I have narrowed it down to either the 13th or 14th of June. Roger Maris homered, and he did so on both of those dates. Unfortunately, I can't remember enough about the game to lock in which of the two dates it was.

06-13-2005, 10:24 PM
Hello Bill. I've been meaning to get around to this; in fact, I started on a Word document that went down when I had a computer snafu (a story I and my ENG 102 instructors are familiar with). Anyway, here we go:

Name: Evan

Occupation: Student

Age: 31 (I waited awhile to become a student, which I've found is different from attending college. Not everyone that attends college is a student).

Work: I maintain the grounds at my apartment complex in exchange for free rent and a modest check every Friday, and I do mean modest.

Work experience: The inevitable and oh-so-appropriately-ambiguous "Customer Service Representative" at a number of places. Runner for a law office (my mothers husband's) where I also kept the books and did the (not legal) filing. Security/Central Vac/Audio/Intercom rough-ins for a security company; basically, I ran wire, almost exclusively for new construction homes. Ceramic tile salesman (2 1/2 years); started in the wharehouse (I ran a mean forklift) and got promoted because I was helping the lead salesman sell tile, so they had to start giving me commision, later I would leave that job and become the assistant for a tile layer. Outside Service Professional; golf course work. I started as a cartwasher at the Raven, a premium (read, expensive) golf course in PHX. #1 rated service staff in the whole wide world, due mostly to the sheer volume of services performed; no guest ever carried their clubs from the parking lot to the bag drop, as a for instance. I eventually got the call up from cartwashing duties to OSP duties; man, the responsibilities: bag drop, practice facility coordinator (you have to keep track of groups and prepare them for their tee time--a lot like babysitting), starter (you keep the sheet that runs the whole course for the day--a groups name, the actually time they teed off; you screw this up and it makes this job harder), Player Assistant (if you've played golf, you are very likely to be familiar with the "ranger." PA is much like a ranger--or marshall--except you don't simply look at the starter's sheet and check the group's time and tell them to pick it up, you do what's known as "forecaddying," which means you got to a slow group, never tell them they're playing too slow, and do the following: hide in the trees about 225 yards ahead of them, show them where their giant slice landed, tell them the best way to avoid the next 10 strokes they'll likely incur if they don't listen to you--course knowledge is required for this, and no one knew the Raven like I did; I'd been all over that course whileplaying it--tend the flag, mark their ball, clean their ball, rake the bunkers, anything that catches them up to the group in front of them. As a PA you are resposible for the pace of the golf course, The Raven had a PA for both nines; we simply didn't have rounds over 4 1/2 hours on single tee days. Double shotgun days, well, there's only so much you can do. There were a few days during DS's when I spent 4 hours at a single hole, just tending the flag and moving groups through, always at hole 7, a very long par 3 with water all along the left. You get 'em through that hole, then radio the back 9 PA, and wash your hands of it; it's his potato then.) Worked for three other AZ courses, then sorta stopped working till I was hired to work at a head shop. After that, I decided that I was ready to become a student, rather than simply a person that attended college.


Interests: Well..baseball, for starters. Geology, music, poker, math, movies, comedy, sarcasm, basically anything I've studied or become a semi-expert in. The list is too hard to memorize or remember.

Two time All State trumpet player. Currently a guitar player
Favorite bands: Tool, Korn, System of a Down, Metallica, Staind, Jethro Tull, Beatles, Pink Floyd, Pearl Jam, Alice Cooper, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, and probably a dozen or more that I can't think of or don't need to list.
Favorite artists: Jimi Hendrix, Robert Johnson, Otis Redding, Leadbelly, Son House, Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters, Skip James. Yeah, I'm a blues enthusiast, and a general expert on Robert Johnson. Oh yeah, Stevie Ray Vaughan. And John Hartford (bluegrass, rawbluegrass. Somebody's inevitably beren left out.

Third generation Cards fan. Grew up watching games with my grandma (in AR), now in the good place with Jack Buck himself. Didn't play much organized ball past Little League, though my arm was a prized comodity. Had a bad experience, turned to tennis. Just don't feel like discussing what happened.
Favorite all time player: Ray Lankford (Junior Griffey in 2nd)
Favorite current player(s): Albert Pujols, Bobby Abreu, and (Free!!!!!) Scott Hairston.

I've been writing this post in the middle of fertilizing the grass and watering it, and I've spent a damn good deal amount of time on this, so I have to say, I'm stopping now. Forgive whatever problems there might be here with this post; I'm quite frazzled right now.

06-14-2005, 01:36 AM
Where to start....
Johnny Forget.....Yeah....You read right...but in french it's pronounced somewhat like : four-jet

Born on march 22nd 1956 in the Most beautifull city in North-America ; Montréal.
My origins are mixed; french-mohawk-irish-german people around me say that's the reason for my personality... :rolleyes:

Was literature student at McGill U. but I dropped out and then life started...

Had serious health problems last year. Got 2 operations, now in remittance but will have to be "followed" for the remainder of the duration. What pisses me, is that I did not look and still don't with a serious medical condition to the point that I never told some of my family and most of my friends.

My passion for BB came from my father but alas I never could communicate with the guy and we never shared on the subject. The only things I know about him and BB are : he saw Jackie Robinson play in Montréal and loved the guy, his favorite players were Stan Musial, Ted Williams and Sandy Koufax and finally he was a rabid Red Sox fan.

I work for the Montréal Casino as a croupier. I always was an adventurer, jack of all trades and master of none...Military, kitchen chef, body guard (I'm 5'10 and I weighed maybe 170 then :eek:) Limo driver, fishing and hunting guide...the list goes on...

Ball player : Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Walter Johnson, Babe Ruth, Sandy Koufax

My cultural references are mostly french, but my family and my personal interests for history, have allowed me to learn and love people like : John Garfield, Paul Robeson, Louis Prima, Bob Dylan (On 9-1-1, my sister phoned to tell me what was going. I opened the TV, and the lyrics of song I was listening to where : "When you ain't got nothing, you ain't got nothing to lose", it sent chills down my spine.)

Love old french, english and american films and music. Seems to me that all that suffering from the 2 WW's and the depression gave people a sense of the beautifull, especially in songs and music. There is a certain tenderness wrapped in respect and devotion that we do not see anymore.

I miss listening to Johnny Carson...Never transfered my adulation to those still in place and never will from the likes of them...

My football team always was and will be the Steelers.

The Man I admire the most is my Father. When I was about 20 years old, I gave him the greatest compliment I could when I said to him, in front of all of the family : If in my life time, if I can put as much on the dinner table as you did on mine, then and only then would I be able to say I have made it. I still have waaayyyy to go...

Got to go, hope my entry will enlighten you as to my personality....Like the poet said, "Good night, take care, be nice....and if you are not...do it twice...
Joseph Henri Lionel...Lionel, My old man was a man of his Times. He never talked about his life and misfortunes. Most of what I know about him came from his brothers, his sisters and my mother. I was 26 years old when one night we got to talk as friends instead of father-son. It was a night that still brings a lot of emotions. 3 years later he was dead.
He enlisted in the Royal Canadian Navy at 17 in 1940. His trade was blacksmith-stoker. His ship, the Teme, a frigate, was torpedoed on March 29, 1945 while escorting a convoy; he was wounded. After the war he became a fireman like his old man (My grandad was captain of a fire brigade, he died following some bad smoke inhalation, he was 49). Couple of years later he got married and 6 monts later, his wife (my mother) had to be admitted for tuberculosis, she spent the next 5 years in the hospital. He visited her every day he was not on duty to a point he, himself, had to be admitted for treatment against TB. Coming out of that one, he got severely wounded while on duty; double skull fracture, loss of an eye and loss of vision in his other eye and to top it all, they announced to him that he was and had been all of his life a serious diabetic...!!! He should not even have been accepted in the Navy...But in those days they needed men and they did not care for trivialities like Diabetes. The city said to him: "Don't sue us and we will guaranty you a desk job...2 years later they dismissed him and he had no legal recourse...prescription for suing was in effect. After all that, found himself a job as a salesman in men's clothing and finally raised a family of three, both my sisters and I, got to buy his little house in the suburbs, and became an expert fisherman. Eventually he got blind because of the Diabetes and he died in 1986 at 62. His generosity, his intellect, his persona, are still talked about amongst friends and relatives. Being the oldest son he started to work young and took care of business. He was considered the head of the family Clan. He was my father. Sometimes, I would have liked to be his friend, but he insisted to be my father, and for that, I will be eternally gratefull.

06-14-2005, 02:51 AM
I figure everyone else has done this so I might as well. My name is Ian, but I chose iPod as my account because that's my nickname with my friends from high school, for some reason which I've never figured out.

I'm 19, originally from Sacramento but going to college at UC Berkeley (just finished my 2nd year there) and thus living in the Bay Area now, majoring in Economics.

I got interested in baseball mostly because of my dad I suppose; no real story behind it. I suppose I could have easily ended up an A's fan, since Sacramento is I'd say about 60% A's fans, 40% Giants fans, though that seems absolutely bizarre to me now. Loved Matt Williams. With a few better breaks, he'd have been headed to Cooperstown. Oh well.

06-14-2005, 03:32 AM

Let's do this thing...

Name: Matthew Souders

Born on October 16th, 1981 in San Diego, CA, but spent all of 10 months in the state before my father was transfered to Northern Virginia for the fourth of his 11 different postings in the US Navy. I feel no allegiance to California as a result.

I started watching/following baseball a little late...I was about 10 when I went to my first ballgame...it happened to be while I lived in Seattle, and so I got acquainted with Ken Griffey Jr, Jay Buhner, Chris Bosio, Randy Johnsno, Dave Flemming, Pete O'Brien...etc...during the hopeful days of the 1992/1993 Mariners. Since then, I've been a rabid Mariner fan through good times and bad.

I moved away from Seattle less than a year after that game to Northern VA again...this time for good...learned to despise the Orioles and Peter Angelos (there has been bad blood between Seattle and Baltimore ever since a series of three bench clearing brawls in 1992 and 1993, though that rivalry has cooled off of late) and struggled to keep up with my Mariners all through the miraculous 1995 season.

From early on, I liked the statistics of the game, but I did nothing more than dabble with the simplest of statistics until I got much older and started to understand advanced math. My real interest in Sabermetrics started at age 18 and serious work on the predecessors to PCA began at age 20 (2001) while I was at Penn State. The final form of PCA didn't come about until last year so you can see how long I stumbled around with weaker methods.

My favorite player is Edgar Martinez. He embodied everything I loved about the refuse to lose Mariners. He was a warrior. I remember a game in 2003 where as he was struggling with a broken foot, and playing through it (wincing on every swing from the pressure he had to put on his broken toes) he fouled a 98 mph fastball off the foot. He went down in a heap and I thought that was it...thought he'd be done for the year. But less than a minute later he limped back to the plate after clearing the tears from his eyes and homered to deep left to tie the game. That's baseball.

The man I most respect (outside my family...that's been said. :) ) and away from on-the-field accomplishments by ballplayers is Bill Jams. The actual work he did in he field of sabermetrics, while not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, was groundbreaking, and resourceful...it opened p the field to a lot of other good thinkers and in totality, James advanced sabermetrics further than any one individual.

I am still "attending college" as therealnod put it...although in the field of baseball statistics I take my studies VERY seriously. Randy Fiato (TKD) can attest to that. :) I am beginning to actually become a "student" of meteorology as well. After graduating from a magnate school for the gifted and talented in math and science, I went to college dead certain I was going to be a meteorologist. Three years later I'd dropped out of Penn State, changed majors 4 times, and made no significant progress. Now I'm back in meteorology and more prepared for (and exited about) the curriculum. I am currently getting my BS in Meteorology from the State University of NY, Oswego campus.

Culture? What's that? Seriously though, I like any music that actually sounds like music and is not just screaming and/or noise. (read: song must have melody, harmony, and clarity, which excludes rap, most R&B, and most of non-pop country music as well as a good chunk of 60s and 70s alternative rock and anything that could be classified as esoterica).

Continuing in my ultimate practice of geekism, I'm a big fan of most American Science Fiction and fantasy (not the type of idiot who stands out in lines for four days waiting to buy tickets to see Star Wars or goes to annal conventions to prove his devotion) from Star Trek to Stargate to Lord of the Rings (yes I know...not American). I'm also a bit of a 90s sitcom junkie if anyone cares.

Apart from working toward two publications on PCA and all of the research associated with the project, my dream is to contribute to baseball in some way..I'd like to work for a front office, or start a statistical consulting firm to advise multiple teams.

anything else anyone wants to know?
addendum on Dad:
As I hinted at...my father was in the Navy for 22 years. He was a naval submariner...started out as a navigator and nuclear reactor technician, and after fourteen years was promoted into command (first as an executive officer then a commanding officer).

The fact that it took him 14 years to earn command rank is a part of what made him a good father...he chewed out some admirals and refused an assignment in his 6th year because they told him he could stay in Connecticut where he'd bought a house and then assigned him to a ship in port in down east Maine.

Life is all about choices and he chose several different times to do things that were contrary to his career to protect his family. He's now an analyst for civilian companies advising the Navy and Marine Corps.

Is he one of my heroes? I would say it's a sad family where a child doesn't look up to his father. Of course he's a hero of mine, though I'm not 10, and I understand his faults.
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06-14-2005, 08:17 PM
Name: Isaac

Age: 16

Passion for Baseball: My dad always took me to Padre's games, and, while I always enjoyed baseball, I had to get older before I could really appreciate it. Once I did studying Tony Gwynn became my passion, then baseball history in general. The first book about old time ballplayers I ever read was Al Stump's Cobb, I later discovered Baseball Almanac then Baseball Fever (though it took me three years to be able to post... as a matter of fact, this is my first post on this site.) Now I love everything about the game, and my belief that Ty Cobb was the greatest ballplayer of all time was cemented by reading Mr. Burgess' debates during the three years I couldn't post.

Hobbies: Reading, Writing, Baseball.

Favorite Book: The Brothers K, by David Duncan

Work: Part-time job as an umpire.

Favorite Ballplayers: Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Eddie Collins, Roberto Clemented, Willie Mays, Ted Williams, Tony Gwynn, Walter Johnson, Trevor Hoffman.
Actually Bill, believe it or not, I joined Baseball Fever before I joined MLB Center, but, for some reason or another, I was never allowed to post, or even vote on polls. I haven't had a lot of time to visit MLB Center, and my school doesn't allow Baseball Fever (even though the computers don't have a problem with MLB Center- go figure), so I've only recently been able to check this place out again. Don't worry, I plan on posting a lot on this site, much more than I ever did on MLB Center.
Isaac's Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profile&id=100000990125010#!/profile.php?id=100001127737046)

06-15-2005, 03:54 PM
Name: Chris
Age: 21
Location: San Diego California
Occupation: Aerospace engineering Major
Most admired current baseball players: Kahlil Greene, Mark Loretta, Jake Peavy, Trevor Hoffman, Adam Eaton, Jason Schmidt, J.T. Snow, Omar Vizquel, Todd Helton, Jason Jennings, Steve Finley, Luis Gonzalez, Greg Maddux, Derek Lee, Scott Rolen, Larry Walker, Oliver Perez, Jason Bay, Ben Sheets, Roger Clemens, Reggie Sanders, Al Leiter, AJ Burnett, Josh Becket, Pedro Martinez, Ichiro Suzuki, Barry Zito, Mark Mulder, Johan Santana, Carl Crawford, Randy Johnson, Roy Halladay, Curt Schilling, Brad Lige, Billy Wagner. Those are the ones that come off the top of my head but alot of professional baseball players I admire cuz its a tough life.

Players I dont admire so much: Barry Bonds there are others i dont like in competition for their attitudes and whatnot but he is the only one i cant stand currently.

Historical players I admire: Tony Gwynn, Ken Camininti, Walter Johnson, Nolan Ryan, Christy Matthewson, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Warren Spahn, Roberto Clemente, Carl Yaztremski, Rollie Fingers, Goose Gossage, Mike Schmidt, Honus Wagner Just a few off the list could go on alot more but again top of my head.
Historically there arent many players who are remembered i dont at least have respect for.

Baseball figures i dont admire: George Steinbrener, Ted Turner, Donald Fehr, in addition to this historically anyone who tried to keep baseball segregated i dont have much admiration for.

Baseball figures I admire: John Mcgraw, Connie Mack, Red Barber, Jack Brickhouse, Ernie Harwell, Jerry Coleman, Branch Rickey.

Americans I admire most: Jackie Robinson, Ronald Reagan, General Patton, Admiral Nimitz, Harry Truman, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Robert Lee, Many many many more I just cant think of em all.

Music I like: Country, Rock, Classical.... pretty much anything but rap and hip hop
I also admire many people on this site for their wisdom about our national pastime its great to meet so many so interested in the greatest game ever invented.
Hobbies: I am studying the martial art of surinji kempo, played football for 4 years in high school and wrestled for 2, would have stuck with baseball through high school and as far as i could but i ran into politcal problems in pony league and just got sick of it. I wanted nothing more than to pitch it was my favorite part of baseball(I got clocked at 74 when i was 12) but managers always let their son take the mound.
I enjoy listening to music alot and reading on scientific and religous matters quite a bit. This is a bit about me in a nutshell.

06-17-2005, 01:16 AM
My name is Randy Fiato. Born in Seoul, South Korea on July 24, 1983 (the exact day of the infamous George Brett Yankees/Royals "pine tar" game), I came over to the States in January of 1984 and have lived in the Northeast ever since. I grew up in the suburbs of Albany, NY and moved to southwestern Connecticut after college.

I attended RPI (Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, for those of you unfamiliar with the abbreviation) and majored in Computer Science with a double minor in Management & Technology and in Music. My specialties in CS are C/C++/PHP/SQL with a focus on Unix and Web development. Music was more for my personal enjoyment (as well to forge a coherent path through the humanities requirements), although I am largely self-taught in composition and theory. I compose in the little spare time that I have.

My day job involves software engineering of portfolio analysis applications, a very interesting and complex field with some analogies to baseball analysis.

One thing about me that surprises most people who "know" me through the Internet is that I didn't start following baseball until I was 13. Basically, the influence of friends (mostly Yankee fans -- blame them for my current allegiance ;)) in junior high jumpstarted the whole thing. Do the math and you'll realize that I started following baseball in late 1996. So I've been blessed with comparatively good times throughout my tenure as a baseball fan.

Being mathematically inclined, I naturally gravitated toward sabermetrics once I had learned the basics of the game. My current endeavor in this regard is working with SABR Matt on PCA, where I've been focusing on the automation of its calculation and various extended applications of it.

My favorite player is (to Matt's chagrin ;)) Alex Rodriguez. Ironically, my previous favorite player was Alfonso Soriano... but I had no issues sending Soriano and a minor-leaguer to Texas for a future first-ballot Hall of Famer.

That's my story in a nutshell (albeit a very big one). :)

06-17-2005, 10:15 PM
Age: 34

Name[s]: Ed, Eddie, Edward,Lalo, Omer

Favorite basball player all-time: Tim "Purple" Raines, aka "Rock"

Favorite teams: Reds, late seventies, Montreal Expos 1981-1991, 1993-4, 2001, Chicago White Sox 1992-1995, 1998-present, New York Yankees 1996-98, Boston Red Sox, more or less always, but especially since 1986, ocassionally will root for the underdogs like Giants and Angels in 2002, Marlins 2003, Cubs always

Favorite current players: Frank Thomas and Tadahito Iguchi

Favorite pitcher? Haven't had that many. I was excited for Langston in 1989 in Montreal. Now I like to see any White Sox pitcher do really well, Buehrle, Garland, Garcia, etc...

Favorite book? Book of Mormon. You couldn't ask for anything more inspirational. The Bible is essential to get the full picture.

Favorite authors: Arthur C. Clarke, C.S. Lewis, Isabel Allende, Chaim Potok, John Steinbeck, Jack London, and all the prophets, modern and old. There's a few more. Most dedicated journalists.

Favorite music: many kinds, but latley Silvio Rodriguez, and Samuel Barber's "Agnus Dei". I have always like rock and enjoy traditional artists like Sting, Pink Floyd, Rush, Beatles, etc. Large variety, including some Latin music and Andreas Bocelli. Ray Lynch is cool, plus John Williams.

Favorite pastimes: Reading, watching sports, writing, attending church meetings and learning lessons in life and classes.

Favorite sports:Basketball, football, baseball, soccer, Olympics, tennis

Playing? Basketball, tennis, ping-pong, softball, touch football, soccer, swimming

Favorite president? Maybe Eisenhower, but Lincoln and Washington are hard to beat.

06-20-2005, 09:57 PM
I don't do much in these parts - I consider 'Current Events' and 'Sabremetrics...' to be more my area of... expertise isn't the right word for it, how about 'knowledge'?

A lot of this is, no doubt, due to age. I'm 21, as of this past November, and a college student on the south side of Chicago after spending my first 18 years in Naples, FL. I've been watching baseball for as far back as I can remember - my earliest baseball-related memories are of Don Mattingly hitting game winning HRs (or what I remember being game-winning HRs; for all I know for sure they could have been routine fly balls to right field :D), and this, being a time before baseball came to Florida, made me a Yankees fan. I've followed the Marlins pretty seriously since they came into the league as well, making the 2003 World Series a really good one for me. :)

I try to remain more or less non-partisan when it comes to everything except actually watching the games.

Not married, no kids. My dad taught me everything he knew about baseball, including being my little league coach for a number of years. I returned some small portion of the favor a few years later, when I, as a high school junior and senior, helped turn a couple of his pitchers into world beaters. At the time, I was a reasonably decent high school pitcher (with a fastball in the upper 60s), but I knew enough about mechanics and staying healthy that he let me work with his pitchers too.

Right now, as far as baseball goes, my focus is on injuries, pitching mechanics, and sabermetrics. The physical side of baseball is one that goes largely ignored, although it does seem to be picking up a bit in the mainstream press. I'd love for the media and my fellow fans to get past the idea that getting injured is simply down to a lack of toughness or 'manhood', an idea that still has a surprisingly strong grasp.

My favorite players: Don Mattingly, Bernie Williams, Tim Raines, Andre Dawson, Alex Rodriguez, Manny Ramirez

Favorite pitchers: Randy Johnson, Mark Prior, Josh Beckett, AJ Burnett, Pedro Martinez

Authors: Kurt Vonnegut, Fyodor Dostoevski, Vladimir Nabokov, Douglas Adams, Jonathan Swift

Books/Short Stories: "Harrison Bergeron", Vonnegut; "Invitation to a Beheading", Nabokov; "Slaughterhouse-five", Vonnegut; "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", Adams; "A Modest Proposal", Swift; "Breakfast of Champions", Vonnegut

President: Hard to beat FDR in my mind. Lincoln and Washington were great as well.

Music: Hard to tie down. I'm really all over the place here, so I'll offer up a completely at random list: Clinic, Queens of the Stone Age, Franz Ferdinand, The Shins, Spoon, Nine Inch Nails, Muse, System of a Down, The Faint, The Hives, Themselves, The Notwist, Kings of Leon, Sage Francis, Aesop Rock, A Perfect Circle, Pink Floyd, Radiohead, Deftones, and I've liked a lot of what I've heard lately from Kraftwerk and The Raveonettes.

Hobbies: Baseball, soccer (increasingly - especially over the past few years, perhaps tied to the US's World Cup run in '02), web design, politics (I'm about as far to the left as I can be and still consider myself a Democrat. :) )

06-25-2005, 09:29 PM
I'm bored and remembered I never posted in this thread, so I thought I'd put mine in now.

Name: Kyle Alan Manning
Age: 20
Hometown: Oxford, IN
Marital Status: Single(99% chance of that never changing)
Religious view: Atheist
IQ: 150~

About me: Graduated from Benton Central High School in 2003(same HS as Splendid Splinter by the way). Went to Purdue University for a year but had a lot of problems(personal and family) along with just hating college so that didn't work out. Spent a year trying to get stuff worked out and trying to find a job, was succesful with neither. So now I'm going to Indiana Business College because its only a year and a half for a degree and it seems I won't be getting anywhere without a degree of some sort. I'm studying Accounting.

Probably the thing that distinguishes me the most from people is that I'm a stutterer. Always have been since I learned to talk. Definatelly not the easiest thing to work through in life. It wasn't really that bad in highschool, but has gotten worse since. This is also why my writing may seem strange at times... my main tool to get around stuttering is to find words I can say instead of ones I can't. Doing this for so long, my vocabulary is rather screwed up, and as I've noticed from internet messageboards my posts usually come out looking different than most peoples. I think this is why.

And probably the craziest thing about me is that I'm a storm chaser. I don't have the $$ to be like the guys you see on TV, but I do the best I can with what I have. Unfortunately the amount of severe weather around here the last few years hasn't been much, so I don't really have film of anything interesting.

Sports stuff: My favorite sport isn't the same throughout the year. From March to September, its baseball. From October to February its football. As can be easily guessed from my username, I'm a Michigan fan for college sports. About as die hard as they come. Don't have a favorite NBA or NFL team, usually just follow Michigan players in those sports. I'm starting to become a Houston Texans fan, though. In baseball my favorite teams are Tampa and the Cubbies.

I've never been big on playing sports. Oddly enough I never played baseball or football despite my love for them. I played basketball through elementary school, but didn't continue. Mainly because my style was... uh... too "physical" and I had(have) a short temper. I always led my teams in steals, blocks, rebounds, fouls, technical fouls, and ejections. So I didn't continue playing when I got to HS. The only sport I'm any good at is bowling. Always loved to do that, and can be damn good at it. When I'm dedicated to it, I can carry a 195+ average. I'm not that dedicated though, mainly because I don't have enough $$ to bowl a lot. So my average is only 170 right now and I'm incredibly erratic(example a couple weeks ago, my series was 252 160 210).

Why I'm here OR My love for Baseball: I started getting into baseball when I was 4. I forget where I was, but I remembered seeing either the game or highlights of a young Texas Ranger hitting a homerun off of Roger Clemens. It was probably the first time I ever saw a baseball game. That Ranger was of course Sammy Sosa. So I decided he was my favorite player and started following him. I didn't really start getting into baseball except for Sosa until I got the internet, which as it happened coincided with Sammy's magical '98 season. I followed some of the sport until about '02 when something triggered me researching the game. I don't really know what, but I got really interested in baseball. This is when I started soaking up every bit of information I could find about the game. Almost instantly I fell in love with old time baseball and especially the Deadball Era.

Now onto the lists! Alltime favorite in bold, current favorite in italics

Favorite Baseball Players: George Sisler(great player AND a Wolverine! can't beat that), Ty Cobb, Christy Mathewson, Walter Johnson, Addie Joss, Honus Wagner, Josh Gibson, Satchel Paige, Cool Papa Bell, Tim Wakefield, Sammy Sosa, Victor Martinez, Carl Crawford, Joey Gathright, Rich Hill

Favorite Football Players: Charles Woodson, Bennie Joppru, Tom Brady, Braylon Edwards, Barry Sanders, Tim Biakabutuka, Robert Gallery, Jon Jansen, LaDanian Tomlinson, Drew Brees, Brett Favre, Tedy Bruschi, Jerame Tuman

Favorite Basketball Players: Chris Webber, LeBron James, Oscar Robertson, Louis Bullock, Robert Traylor, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlin, Cazzie Russell, John Stockton, Jalen Rose, Juwan Howard, Jimmy King, Ray Jackson

Favorite Movies: Twister, Field of Dreams, The Natural, the Star Wars movies(Episode III), Shawshank Redemption, Se7en, 21 Grams, Swordfish, Office Space

Favorite Artists/bands: Edwin McCain, MetallicA, AC/DC, Lifehouse, Meatloaf, Denali, Pretty Girls Make Graves, Garth Brooks, 90 Day Men, Ice Age, John Cougar Mellencamp. Rest of my music tastes can be summed up here: My Audioscrobbler Page (http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/kmanning/)

I think thats enough to sum up who I am.
open letter to kyle from west coast orange and black (Tony):

dude, you seem pretty normal; your post is indistinguishable from all others in most ways. the only thing that makes it different to me is that it includes a part of your life that has been painful for you.

stuttering has been found to exist in every culture that has ever been on this planet, down to even the most remote of island regions. it affects males at a 16:1 ratio over females.

the path that you have chosen is a curious choice to me, man. you seem to be saying that you limit yourself to words that you can say so that you can get your words out. i say curious because you are able to say every single word in the english language... just not always exactly when you wish to.

probably, when speaking, you are very hyper-conscious of your audience and do not want to make them wait or be uncomfortable. i say hell with them. if they care then they will wait all day for you, if need be.

hopefully, you will not continue to limit yourself, as you have done: an expansion of vocbulary puts more choices at your fingertips when you do get stuck >>> you can work your way around the wall rather than try to force yourself through it. an expanded vocabulary is a very helpful tool.

i do not know what work you have done with speech therapists, kyle, but try to remember to breathe, to be patient with yourslef, and to try to not be so hard on yourself. many stutterers fall into the trap of setting themselves up because they can "feel" the sound/word that will get them stuck... and then they ultimately do get stuck... almost according to a plan.

there are many "tricks/devices" that stutterers can use to "get the words out". and these methods can be honed to the degree that the audience is not even aware that stuttering is taking place directly in front of them.


i very much appreciate your openess and unveiling of a part of your life that is difficult and at times painful. many 20 year-olds, hell, many people twice your age don't have that kind of guts. ultimately, dude, be kind to yourself, k?

and oh, from your post, i can not gather that you stutter: your words in print are just fine and "normal". tony.

What about Night of the Twisters?

Ooh I love that movie and the book. I had forgotten about it. If only my VCR worked I'd watch it right now. I think they show it on one of the ABC Family channels quite a bit so I'll have to wait for that.

Tony: Thanks for the support. I agree that the route I've taken isn't exactly the best, but we haven't been able to afford to goto therapists so I've had to make do on my own. I did find a voc rehab place around here thats going to help me with financial aid and get me to a therapist and pay for it all, so that should be a lot of help. And I think the strange thing about the way I get around the stuttering is I'm not limited to small words.. a lot of times I can't say a small word so I use a large one. It just makes my vocabulary very strange at times.
To Kyle: From Splendid Splinter (Bart Schutter)

I went to high school with Kyle and we're in the same grade. We had a few classes together throughout the years. Actually, the more I think about it... we had a lot of classes together.

He was always comfortable with me and didn't stutter that much at all. And when he did, it was usually a small word. He has a huge vocabulary while I'm quite the opposite. I think the reason we got along so well was because he had a problem and I had a problem (deaf, wearing a hearing aids and also really, a speech problem), so I know what he was going through, to some extent. While I didn't stutter, I never had a huge vocabulary because 75% of the time, I couldn't say the word right or couldn't say at all. I was always patient with him and listen to him when he talked. And when he did stutter, I knew what he was saying too.

"probably, when speaking, you are very hyper-conscious of your audience and do not want to make them wait or be uncomfortable. i say hell with them. if they care then they will wait all day for you, if need be."

That, right there, is probably the best advice I have ever heard from someone to someone with any problem. I have the same mindset like you Tony. That is when you know who is really your friends and who are people that you just hang out with. All I can say is, Patience is the key. It just pisses me off so much, if someone doesn't have to listen or they are umcomfortable and can't understand and then just leave you alone. Then the biggest thing that gets me is if someone makes a joke or makes fun of a person with a problem. I've been in a few fights because of that. Some of them were just total strangers.

Kyle doesn't know this, but some of my good friends made jokes about him stuttering a couple times. One day during lunch, one of my friend made a joke and I just went off on him, just yelling and screaming at him. Basically, what I said to him was, if you are making fun of him, you're making fun of me because I'm deaf. Then if you're making fun of me, then you are making of your best friend because he wears glasses. And at last, if you make fun of your best friend, you are making fun of yourself because you are dyslexia and can't read for ****(at that time, only a handful of people knew he had that problem). Well... let me paint a picture at the end of the scene, 3 guys were holding me back and one of them was the principal. After that, I haven't heard a joke from him again when I'm around him.

...I was always patient with him and listen to him when he talked...cornerstones of true friendship
...I've been in a few fights because of that. Some of them were just total strangers.it is said that a man who fights is a man out of options. while i am not so certain of that, ss, if you are going to fight, fight to win. ;)
...Basically, what I said to him was, if you are making fun of him, you're making fun of me... if you're making fun of me, then you are making of your best friend... if you make fun of your best friend, you are making fun of yourself...for me, this is the gleaming gem of your post, dude. good insight into the idea that while all different, we are all the same. take care.

06-25-2005, 10:48 PM
Name: Garrett
Age: 14
Born in Peoria, Illinois, but I never lived there.
Lived from birth to 1996 in West Chicago.
From 1996 to 2002 in Joliet.
From 2002 to current in Vernon Hills.

Pre-school: Tick-Tock Preschool (West Chicago area)
Kindergarten - 5th: St. Raymond's Cathedral (Joliet)
6th - 8th: Daniel Wright Junior High School (Lincolnshire)
Soon to be 9th: Stevenson High School

Live with my mom, my brother, and my Australian Shepherd.
My dad died three days before I was born, from, I believe, Hodgkin's Disease. My mom missed his funeral because she was giving birth to me. Everyone in my family told me I looked more like my dad than my mom and was funny like him too. My mom went to U of I; I got her smarts. :) I could've skipped 3rd grade but wanted to be with my friends. :) My brother's 16, he skateboards, snowboards, plays guitar, and pretends he's good at sports. My mom works for a major plastic cup manufacturing company (take your guess on that one).
My mom remarried (forcing the move to Joliet) a jerk. She divorced him in '01. She's a lot happier now that he's gone, as am I.
I enjoy snowboarding, playing basketball, baseball (especially pick-up games in my neighborhood), used to play soccer, hangin' with friends, going to Cubs games (at least 6 a year), going to S.T. (done so the past 2 years), and watching any baseball game not being announced by Hawk Harrelson.

I played my first season of league baseball last year (my coaches didn't believe that when they found out).
Pretty much, I can't hit, and that's because I've never practiced hitting. But, my teammates often tell me I'm the best fielder in the league (17 teams). I play SS and I love getting dirty. I can pitch (with just three pitches, no warming up, I can hit about 60 mph) but haven't this whole season. I like making web gems.

Who got me started on baseball? I'm with Kyle on this one.
Sammy Sosa on September 13, 1998, I was at Wrigley Field, enough said. I've loved Sammy ever since, still support him.

My favorite sport: Baseball easily. It used to be basketball before '98. I have always hated hockey and curling. :)

Favorite MLB team: The one that resides at 1060 W. Addison St.

Most despised MLB team: White Sox, and just a hair behind, the Cardinals.

Favorite NBA team: Chicago Bulls

Most despised NBA team: Either one that played in the Finals this year.

Favorite baseball players: Sosa, Rodan, Ram-Ram, Ryno, Ron Santo, Ernie Banks, Glenallen Hill, Felix Pie, Brian Dopirak, Eric Patterson, Satchel Paige, Jackie Robinson, Mad-Dog Maddux, Bartolo Colon, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Moises Alou, Kenny Lofton, and Randall Simon.

Favorite basketball players: MJ, Wilt the Stilt, Bob Cousy, Pistol Pete, Grant Hill, KG, Tyson Chandler, and Andres Nocioni.

Favorite sports movies (highest first): Field of Dreams, Hoosiers, Cobb, *61, Hardball, Major League, This Old Cub, Miracle, The Sandlot, Happy Gilmore, Coach Carter, and A League of Their Own. (probably forgetting some)

Favorite other movies: Pretty much anything Adam Sandler pre-Eight Crazy Nights and Punch Drunk Love, Star Wars, Misery, ugghh my brain isn't working.

Favorite director: George Lucas

Favorite music: Classic rock - Zeppelin, Skynyrd, The Who, Pink Floyd, Tom Petty, Guns N' Roses, The Beatles; MoTown; some metal.

Why I'm here: I love baseball, I love learning about baseball, baseball is my life.

06-27-2005, 07:18 PM
Patrick (Scott) Barzilla
Born: November 30, 1973. I lived in Houston all but five years of my life (Fort Worth for college).

I came by my BB passion from Dad. He grew up as a Cards fan because Houston was St. Louis's top farm team before the Colt 45s opened for business. Stan Musial was his favorite player. As a child I read a lot of football and baseball books and began memorizing numbers. Collecting baseball cards also helped in this regard. I guess this is where my roots in sabermetrics go.

Work: 1997-Current: Public school teacher

I teach history and economics right now, but I've also taught government, psychology, philosophy, and English. I also have my masters in Counseling and hope to be a school counselor some day.

Favorite ballplayers: This is going to depend on the time period. I'm partial to Jeff Bagwell as a native Houstonian, but in older players I have to say I have a fascination with Max Bishop. More than anything, I love heady guys that make the most out of what they got. The player that seemed to embody that more than anything when I grew up was Brett Butler. When he played against the Astros I hated that guy, but I respect the hell out of him now.

Favorite movies: Fight Club is the most creative and thought provoking movie I've ever seen. I love movies that dare to challenge me. Memento is another one of those. However, I am a sucker for Star Wars (I don't wait in line for tickets though) and for mindless movies like James Bond

Favorite Rock Bands: Beatles, Pink Floyd, REM, U2, Dave Mathews Band

Favorite Rock CD's: Beatles: Sgt Peppers, Revolver, Abbey Road. Pink Floyd: Dark Side, Wish you were Here, Pipers at the Gates of Dawn. REM: Life's Rich Pagent, Automatic for the People, Murmor. U2: Joshua Tree. Others: Who's Next (The Who), Physical Graffiti (Led Zepellin).

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: George Thorogood's Greatest Hits, Contraband: The Best of Men at Work, Greatest: Duran Duran. The Very Best of Cream.

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jim Thorpe, Babe Didrikson Zaharias, Bo Jackson, Jerry Rice, Michael Jordan, Willie Mays

Favorite Basketball Players: Hakeem Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, Dominque Wilkens

Favorite Football Runners: Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson, LaDailian Tomlinson (I'm a TCU grad after all)

Favorite Movie Directors: David Lynch, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, Steven Spielberg,

Favorite Actors: Tom Hanks, John Cusack, Denzel Washington

Favorite Actresses: Salma Hayek, Rachel Weisz, Angelina Jolie. (Gee, anyone want to guess where my mind is?)

Favorite Books:
The Republic (Plato)
The Prince (Machiavelli)
Fight Club

Favorite Sports Books:
Baseball's Dynasties-- Rob Neyer and Eddie Epstein
Whatever Happened to the Hall of Fame -- Bill James
Various editions of Total Baseball, especially 1st. ed., 1989
Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, by Bill James, 1985, 1988, 2001

Favorite Rock Geniuses: Syd Barrett (Pink Floyd), Pete Townsend (The Who), Eric Clapton, Paul Simon

Favorite Ice Skaters: Katerina Witt

Favorite Rock Voices: Not that into this category

Men I admire Most:

1. Jesus Christ- everything starts with him
2. Winston Churchill- bombing Berlin (thus getting London bombed) might have been the single most difficult and best decision during the war
3. Ghandi- helped liberate India
4. Mother Teresa- should be made a saint before John Paul II

My Most Admired Americans:

No Baseball players just by rule

1. Abe Lincoln- unified this country and made the hard choices when they didn't come any harder.
2. Teddy Roosevelt- Hell, who else is going to get shot making a speech and then finish the speech before he gets medical attention?
3. Thomas Jefferson- Bill hit it on the head
4. George Washington- showed restraint as the first president which established a great precendent for this nation
5. Martin Luther King Jr. - used non-violence to spur forward civil liberty
The funny thing about religion is that while it is important I believe strongly in having an open mind. I understand that my beliefs are my beliefs and aren't necessarily right for everyone else. Yet, I like hearing what others have to say. Of course, this is not the place.
Scott's Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=-3&id=754715872#!/scott.barzilla?v=info&ref=ts)

Brad Harris
06-28-2005, 07:34 AM
Age: 39
Married w/ 5 children between the two of us (both previously married)
Retirement planner for state employees

Favorite Music: Swing/Big Band, Motown, Oldies, 80's
Favorite Musicians/Acts: Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole, Sam Cooke, Whitney Houston, Lionel Richie, Whitney Houston
Favorite Movies: Field of Dreams, My Man Godfrey, Ben Hur, LOTR trilogy, The Lion in Winter, The Quiet Man
Favorite Actors/Actresses: Cary Grant, Kathryn Hepburn, Anthony Hopkins, Bill Nighy
Favorite Authors: Francis Schaeffer, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Ron Chernow, William Manchester, G.K. Chesterton, Vince Flynn, George R.R. Martin
Famous Americans I Admire: Robert E. Lee, Douglas MacArthur, Booker T. Washington, James Madison
Others I Admire: Winston Churchill, Benjamin Netanyahu, Lech Walesa
People I Dislike: Jerry Spring, Nikki Minaj, Kassie DePaiva
Pet Peeves: Too numerous to mention, particularly for someone as young as I am

Grew up in Hong Kong, China when it was a British colony. Returned to the U.S. after high school graduation. Went to college, traveled, worked in more occupations than I can remember. Found true love on the second try. Presently completing higher education while getting four girls through high school within a relatively short period of time.

First got into collecting baseball cards at the age of 10. First game was a trip to Riverfront Stadium in 1985 to see Dave Parker and Pete Rose. (Nobody went for Perez or Concepcion. Ever.) Reds remain my home team, even after a decade spent living deep in Cardinals' territory. Biggest thrill as a fan: spending my 16th birthday in Cooperstown (as a suprise)!

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07-01-2005, 09:27 AM
My name is Zack. I'm turning 22 in a few weeks. I live in Suffern, NY.

07-06-2005, 12:31 AM
Name: Harrison

nicknames- Red Rooster, Bronc-Buster, Texas Red


I was born in Amarillo Texas, moved to Highland Rim, then to Houston were I live now.

How I got to know Baseball, I was trained to pitch from a very young age, that and play guitar. My baseball exploits span little-league to my "record setting" last high school season which I know regret ever undertaking here are the stats from that season


W-L 19-15

ERA 4.75

Innings Pitched 200.75(school record)

My goal was to win 20 games(a school record), I fell one short and now I hate myself for it.

Authors: Truman Capote, Jim Bouton, Stephen Jay Gould

Fav Players: Fred Lynn, Carl Yastrzemski, Frank Howard, Ralph Kiner

Fav Pitcher: Rick Wise, Jim Kaat, Joe Niekro, Tug McGraw, Jim Lonborg

Music: Jet( I said are you gonna be my girl?), Marty Robbins( So the story of my life can start and end with you), Jim Reeves(Tell your friend he'll have to goooo...), American Hi-Fi(It's the Art of Losing), Johnny Cash(No the circle won't be broken by and by lord by and by) , Bobby Darin(I wanna dream lover so I don't have to dream alone.), Eddy Arnold(Then if it don't work, then you can tell me goodbye.).

Fav Movie: 12 Angry Men, To Kill a Mocking Bird, Codename: Wildcat.

I inherited my love of baseball thru my father and uncle's urging.

How'd I forget my rodeo stuff, I ride Horses and Broncos during Rodeo season, hence one of my nicknames, which also coinsides with one of my fav. songs "Cowboy In a Continental Suit" by Marty Robbins. Riding is my other passion, it hurts but it's FUN!!!!!

Thats about it..... for now.

07-07-2005, 02:10 PM
Well, let's see....

Name: Wes
Occupation: High school math teacher
Age: 45
Brethren: one brother, in the armed forces to this day
High School: class of 1978, Kirksville, Missouri
College: all over Missouri. 3 degrees, too long a story. :)
I've been a fan of baseball since as long as I can remember, but especially since 1971 when I stumbled across an annual guide in a bookstore while on a summer vacation with our family. I read that book from cover to cover and left it tattered.

Favorite movies: Deer Hunter (1980), Poseidon Adventure (1972), Fisher King (1991), Shawshank Redemption, Appollo 13, About Last Night (1986).

Favorite albums: Frampton Comes Alive..(I've earned at least 2 speeding tix while jamming to that :) ) Where It All Begins (Allman Bros), Rumors (Fleetwood Mac), Layla (Derek and the Dominoes, er.. Clapton)

My tapes collection numbers in the hundreds, and I've spent a lot of time dumping the tapes on to CD-RW discs. Music is my main form of relaxation at home or behind the wheel. For any of you road ragers, I highly recommend creating your own collection. :cool: For those of you who don't listen to much music, I respect that... and there appear to be several posters of all ages who aren't necessarily into music, so we'll move on.

As the name implies, I am a hardheaded traditionalist. You might even say a stick in the mud, although I try as best I can to be good-humored about it. When I first stumbled on to this site, I had loaded myself with a couple of strong cups of coffee from a nearby coffeehouse, and being fully wired I had to make my position clear. Actually, I'm more open-minded now than I was years ago.

Favorite team when I was young: San Diego Padres. Here's how hard-headed I was at the time. My friends in Northern Missouri all liked the Cardinals and even the Royals in the pre-Brett days. I had to be different, and I chose the Padres because they had an awesome offense from the 1970 season in spite of a huge field to play in. In 1971, they found several good young pitchers, including Clay Kirby. I was convinced that the Padres would rule the National League for years to come. I followed the team loyally through the 1985 season, thinking that Tony Gwynn had led the 1984 team to the Series and that they would be back soon. In 1986, the Padres gave up the ghost on contending, and I have followed baseball in general ever since. No favorite teams now, only favorite players and a love of baseball in general.

Favorite players: Tom Seaver, Tony Gwynn, Robin Yount, George Brett, Clay Kirby, Nate Colbert, Dave Winfield, Clarence Gaston, Randy Jones, Bobby Bonds, Mike Schmidt (most of these names were old Padres players, for you young folk)

Current favorite players: Carlos Beltran, Troy Glaus, Tom Glavine, Rafael Palmeiro, Vlad Guerrero, Kirk Rueter (although I think its time he gave it up), Dontrelle Willis, John Smoltz, Andruw Jones, Mike Sweeney, Bill Mueller.

Favorite TV shows: Cheers, especially with Shelley Long as Diane Chambers. Andy Griffith, too.

I miss Johnny Carson. Jay Leno is good, David Letterman has his moments, but Carson ruled.

Gotta go, time to get my fix. :coffee
Addendum on Dad:
My dad taught as a college history professor until he developed cancer when I was 12. It was terminal on the third diagnosis, and that was after he had been given a clean bill of health about 6 months prior. It was a crushing blow, because he was the polar opposite to myself in temperament. Since I was a combative and maybe hot-tempered kid, he was as cool as anyone could ask. I needed his advice and stability. But I held true to my promise to never indulge as he had. His one chink in the armour was that he drank and smoked rather heavily. His favorite ballplayer was Hal Newhauser, and he was prescient on Steve Rogers in 1973 when we saw the Expos play in Jarry Park. He said Rogers would pitch well for quite a while. He was right on, since Rogers had a shot at the 1983 Cy Young at midseason that year.

07-12-2005, 11:37 PM
Name: Shafi McCants

Born: August 15, 1968. Detroit, Michigan: Lived there until I went in the military.

I got into Baseball mostly out of peer pressure at the age of 10. My parents were too busy being "angry black people" to provide any support. All of the kids I went to School with were coming to class in their uniforms and I wanted to fit in with them. I was a pretty bookish kid at the time and had little interest in athletics. I had an older friend in the neighborhood work with me for 2 years to get me to a respectable level of playing ability, the rest I learned about the game was self taught from baseball instructional manuals and practicing fundamentals on my own.

I was underestimated by a lot of kids and coaches so it was very hard for me to pick up with a team. Picked up with my first little league team at 13 and caught and played the outfield was a very good contact hitter in my first season 1 strikeout in 37 AB.

Went to Chadsey High School in Detroit. I made my High School team my freshman year, never missed a day of High School or Baseball practice the best coach I ever played for Mr. Larry Krueger who was also my Drafting teacher was the man who taught me the most about the game of Baseball. I rode the pine until halfway through my junior year when finally stood up to my new coach for some playing time, had little use for politics, nepotism, and being bullied, all of which went on at my High School and started in Leftfield from then on. I was the kid on the team that stuck up for those who were getting screwed. Got the oppurtunity to play at Tiger Stadium 3 times in High School.

I was a good hitter who never cracked in pressure situations, hit 3 Homers in High School (2 off the same pitcher) was the only senior in the outfield my sr. year and I stayed in LF, was a very good defensive player with a gun for an arm (had 7 outfield assists) I still play and coach adult Baseball and I am primarily a CF and still can play both corners. I plan on coaching at the High School level one day.

Work:GM Tech Center Warren Michigan, worked as a Draftsman until GM stopped selling cars in 1986 was taking night classes at Wayne State in Detroit. I went to see a Marine Corps recruiter in Sept of 1986 after I turned 18 and went into the Marine Corps in January of 1987 work in the Motor Transport Field civilian equivalent of a Fleet Manager for a Trucking Firm, have had the additional duties of serving as a Drill Instructor at MCRD San Diego and have Instructor tours at 2 Marine Corps Formal Schools, have served as a School Department Head and a Curriculum Writer. Currently a Master Sergeant stationed in Kaneohe Bay Hawaii. Finishing my BOE in Occupational Education with an emphasis on Instructional Design and Methodology Leaning towards Secondary Education or Cooporate Training after retiring from the Marine Corps.

Favorite Ballplayers: Ted Williams, Alan Trammell, Lou Whitaker, Al Kaline, Charlie Gehringer, Lou Gehrig, Carl Furillo, Roberto Clemente, Jay Buhner, Ken Caminiti, Tony Gwynn, Vern Stephens, Jimmie Foxx, Bob Feller, Bob Gibson, Garry Maddox, Yaz, Hank Greenberg, Dom DiMaggio, Reggie, Curt Flood, Lance Parrish, Jim Hegan.

Favorite Hockey Players: Gordie Howe, Bobby Orr, Red Kelly, Yzerman, Messier, Brian Leetch, Phil Esposito, Jean Beliveau, Scott Stevens, Terry Sawchuk, Jaques Plante, Glenn Hall, Pierre Pilote.

Favorite Movies: Blackboard Jungle, To Sir With Love, A Boy Named Charlie Brown, L.A. Confidential, Porky's trilogy, The Last American Virgin, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Hitch, The Natural, Grace of My Heart, The Dirty Harry Collection, Mo' Better Blues, Used Cars, Enter The Dragon and many others...

Favorite Musicals: Hair, Jesus Christ Superstar, Pippin, Funny Girl, Jeckyl and Hyde, Ragtime.

Favorite Bands/Artists: The Beatles, Chicago, Blood Sweat and Tears, Laura Nyro, The Manhattan Transfer, Basia, Sam Cooke, New York Voices, Jane Monheit, Linda Eder, Hootie & The Blowfish, The Temptations, Carole King, Michael Feinstein, Johnny Mathis, Earth Wind and Fire, Hall & Oates. All 50's Doo-Wop

Favorite Athletes: Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio, Julius Erving, Kareem, Bill Russell, Wilma Rudolph, Arthur Ashe, Tiger Woods, Mark Messier, Gordie Howe.

Favorite Coaches: Pat Riley, Vince Lombardi.

Favorite Nararator: John Facenda

Best Baseball Announcer Pipes: Ernie Harwell, Paul Carey and Harry Kalas

Favorite Books:
Babbitt: Sinclair Lewis
A Farewell to Arms: Hemmingway
The Rise and Fall of an Urban School System Detroit (1907-81) Jefferey Mirel
The Origins of the Urban Crisis: Thomas Sugrue

Favorite Baseball Books:
My Turn At Bat: Ted Williams
All of Bill James' books
Cobb Would Have Caught It: Richard Bak
Baseball Cooperstown and the Politics of Glory: Bill James
Nine Sides of the Diamond: David Falkner

Favorite concert experiences: Prince, Culture Club, Hall & Oates (1984), Tears For Fears (1985), Mr. Mister (1986), Laura Nyro (1989), Manhattan Transfer (1997)

Hobbies: Singing Karaoke, Speaking in Toastmasters International, Drawing Cartoons, Astrology, Reading, Baseball, Music.

07-13-2005, 10:31 AM
Am I the first female-type person to post here?

Name: Annie (Anne Marie)
Born: August 13, 1968, at Grace Cottage Hospital in Townshend, VT.
Education: Jamaica (VT) Elementary, 1974-1980; Leland & Gray Union High School (Townshend, VT) 1980-1986; Marlboro College, 1986-1988. That’s my formal educations, but of course I never stop learning. I learn something new every day.
Residence: the old family home in a tiny southern Vermont village.
Team affiliation: The Red Sox, now and forever.

I am the youngest of five; my sister Linda was born in 1950; Mary in 1954; only brother Terry in 1962; Barbara (Ber) in 1965. We grew up poor, though we kids didn’t realize it. There are different kinds of poverty, and though we didn’t have toys all over the place, we had a great family, good food from the garden and chickenyard, and played outside in the woods and brooks and on the mountain behind the house, hours of wonderful unsupervised, unstructured play, imagination-building play that kids are seldom allowed now.

My earliest memory is of baseball, though I didn’t realize it until a few years ago. I had an image in my mind, which I had thought was a snippet of a dream, of being down the driveway and looking back up at the house, and seeing a big white thing hanging off the gable. A few years ago, as we were talking about baseball (a favorite pastime in my family), Ber said she remembered seeing Linda and Mary hanging a banner, painted on butchers’ paper, off the house, congratulating the Mets on their World Series win in 1969. I described the image I knew of, and it matched Ber’s memory. I was only 14 months old at the time!

Baseball has always been like another member of the family. Since Mom and Dad first met at a baseball game, I guess that’s only natural. Mom was the bigger baseball fan of the two, having followed the Dodgers, and enjoyed watching family and friends in the town team for years. After the Dodgers were torn from Brooklyn, Mom started following the Red Sox – her second team – and for a few years rooted for the laughably inept Mets. She says one of her favorite players of all time was “Marvelous” Marv. I truly became a Red Sox fan in 1978 – and we all know what happened that year.

I played softball one spring in grade school, but it was hardly organized. The 3rd grade teacher Mrs. Hamilton (damn good teacher) was our coach, and we played maybe a dozen games. The highlight for me was hitting a sacrifice fly -- probably my only RBI ever.

I wanted to play softball in junior high, but was dissuaded by a bully, whom I will only call Nemesis. She was vicious to me, since I was a very shy kid, and took great pleasure in backing me into corners and being mean in a way only girls can be. I picked up a bat that first spring in 7th grade, and Nemesis directed a volley of hateful mockery my way, so I dropped the bat and turned away from the field. Ambition often takes a back seat to self-preservation when you’re a shy 12-year-old. (When I say I wanted to play softball, it’s only because girls weren’t allowed to play baseball – too dangerous. We could play field hockey, though, and in my one game, Nemesis made quick work of my shins with her stick. Baseball, by comparison, was about as dangerous as Home Ec.)

Instead of athletics, I excelled in art and writing. I began to be a writer in 1977 – the year Star Wars came out. That movie popped the lid off my imagination, and for a few years all of us kids in the village lived and breathed Star Wars. Eventually my siblings grew out of it, but the stories kept coming to me, and so I began to write them down. I haven’t stopped yet. I have beside me on my desk the manuscript of a novel which was recently rejected – but a good rejection – and so I am polishing it up and will try again, and again, until it catches on someplace.

Writing and art -- and Band, in which I played an indifferent clarinet for 6 years – kept me going through high school. I have developed a deep appreciation for the English language, its history and evolution, and hate to see it used in a lazy, uncaring way (which is why I LOATHE the semi-literate abbreviated internet shorthand). My art teacher wanted me to go to the Rhode Island School of Design, but it cost too much. Aside from two weeks at the Vermont Studio School, I have had no formal art training, but have worked to develop my skill with a brush and pen. I have always wanted to go to art school, but was talked out of it when I was younger, by people who said it was a waste of time. Maybe I'll get to go, someday.

Soon I hope to market my artwork and get the hell out of retail. I work in an expensive, exclusive linen shop in an expensive, exclusive resort town, and I HATE IT. I am far too egalitarian to work in a town where people buy $1000 bedsheets and $6000 dresses and $12,000 crystal vases, and call the shop clerks “honey” and complain about the way “the girl” irons the pillowcases. >>2010 update - still work there. Still hate it. But jobs are scarce...

My other job, my full-time job – and I mean full time – is as caregiver to my elderly parents. Mom’s been in indifferent health since 1980, and this past spring Dad underwent emergency heart-valve replacement surgery to correct a very bad case of congestive heart failure. The past few months have been extraordinarily stressful. Dad’s on the mend, and Mom’s been doing better, but almost every day brings another thing to worry about, another appointment to attend, another pill bottle to refill. I rarely have ten minutes at a time to myself, but do not begrudge my parents any of the time. >> In 2006 Mom underwent surgery to correct an abdominal aortic aneurysm, and spent that summer recovering, and is fine now (winter 2008). It was one of the most stressful and exhausting periods of my life. I thought 2005 was tough but 2006 superseded it by a couple of orders of magnitude.

I take great joy in living where I do. Though winters are about 3 months too long, and I would like to skip out on January-March, I try to see the beauty here in every day. Someone in another post in this thread called Vermont boring, but I can’t imagine living anywhere else. Sure, I’m 15 miles from a movie theater, but I have a mountain (which my parents bought in 1952 for $2000) out my back door, and the best water in the world to drink, from a 150-year-old, hand-dug well, and this morning the sunlight is all bronzy (gonna be a hot day) and gilding the mist and the trunks of the pine trees, and a hermit thrush is singing on the knoll. There are very few times when Vermont is not, to me, the best place in the world. On the morning of 9/11, after being poleaxed by the news, I went up into the woods, into my cathedral of green and gold ash and maple trees, and drank in the peace and beauty there, and knew that the whole world had not ended, or gone insane. Vermont has a lively arts community, and more organic farms for the population than any other state. I decry the fact that Vermont is viewed as little more than an amusement park by many people. It’s not “Ski Country” -- it's my home, my history, my inspiration.

I am unabashedly appalled by organized religion. Faith is a deeply personal thing, and no one has the right to tell anyone else what, how, when and why to worship. I am politically liberal/progressive/independent. Raised by Roosevelt Democrats, I could hardly be anything else.

I dislike cats (and am allergic to them), love wild birds, and would love to have a dog, when I get the time and money to take care of one. I want a Meliteo Kinidio (Small Greek Domestic Dog), which I would name Youkilis – the Greek Dog of Walks. ;)

Music I like: Paul Simon, Dire Straits, Renaissance lute music, Edouard Lalo, Beethoven, Vivaldi, Corelli, Fleetwood Mac, Billy Joel, Telemann, Jean-Pierre Rampal, Fernando Sor, Flatt & Scruggs, Steely Dan, Loreena McKennitt, Foreigner, Norah Jones, The Eagles, Ella Fitzgerald, Thelonius Monk, Jack Johnson, Pat Donahue, Hawaiian slack-key guitar masters, Fleetwood Mac, Rod Stewart, The Stones, Franz Schubert, The Chieftains, Libana, The Gipsy Kings, Duke Ellington, Madeleine Peyroux, Chris Isaak, Niamh Parsons, Rossini, 10,000 Maniacs, Coldplay, Red Hot Chili Peppers, CSNY, CCR, Van Morrison, Brandi Carlile, KT Tunstall, Ben Harper, various world music…

Okay, music I DON’T like: Country-western, hip-hop, rap, heavy metal, and most 20th Century classical. Just about everything else I can tolerate, at least for one song. Even opera.

Movies: #1, hands down – Casablanca. Others, in no particular order: The Princess Bride, the first Star Wars, Rear Window, Top Secret!, Major League, The Sting, All the President’s Men, Good Night and Good Luck, Once, The Truman Show, Double Indemnity, That Darn Cat (the original), The Addams Family, Pirates of the Caribbean, Bringing Up Baby, Amelie, Arsenic & Old Lace, The Philadelphia Story, The Wedding Singer, Strictly Ballroom, Indiana Jones flicks, What's Up, Doc?, The In-Laws (1979), Monty Python & the Holy Grail, GalaxyQuest, The Secret of Roan Inish… and many, many more.

Books: Allspice, by Bertha B. and Ernest Cobb, published in 1927. Three Men in a Boat, by Jerome K. Jerome; Gerald Durrell’s natural history books, also those by Edwin Way Teale and Bernd Heinrich; The Foxfire series; A Strange and Seeing Time, by Elizabeth Byrd; The Wind in the Willows, by Kenneth Grahame – my comfort book (On 9/11 I took that book up in the woods and read it, after ODing on the news); Regency romances by Georgette Heyer, and select fantasy novels. Recently I’ve read Volcanoes in Human History by deBoer and Sanders; The Mother Tongue: English and How it Got That Way, by Bill Bryson; the first nine books in the Stephanie Plum series by Janet Evanovich; Dead Men Do Tell Tales: Case Studies of a Forensic Anthropologist, by Dr. Wm. Maples; The Mummies of Urumchi, by Elizabeth Wayland Barber; Krakatoa, by Simon Winchester; The Crack at the Edge of the World, by Winchester; Catastrophe! by David Keys; The Thursday Next series, by Jasper Fforde; On Writing, by Stephen King. I love to read history books – ancient, modern, what have you. I love many more books than I can possibly list here. I can’t abide lit-fic and modern poetry. Love maps and atlases, and can play with Google Earth for hours.

Baseball Books: The Head Game, by Kahn; Faithful, by King & O’Nan; The Physics of Baseball, by Adair; Game Time, by Angell; Season of the Owl, by Wolff, Jr.; The Year the Yankees Lost the Pennant, by Wallop; The Last Days of Summer, by Kruger; Summerland, by Chabon; Baseball As America; and dozens of others.

Favorite team: The Red Sox, of course, followed by the Blue Jays. In the NL - Giants, Pirates.

Favorite ballplayers, in no special order: Pedro Martinez, Jason Varitek, Tim Wakefield, Nomar Garciaparra, Dustin Pedroia, Kevin Youkilis, Carlos Delgado, Roy Halladay, Bill Lee, Luis Tiant, Dwight Evans, Dennis Eckersley, Brian Daubach… several rosters full. I wish I could have seen Jimmy Collins play.

How I found Baseball Fever: In the spring of 2001, I was looking for the complete lyrics of "Take Me Out To the Ball Game," and found Baseball Almanac through Google. Wandering happily around that outstanding site, I found my way into the forums. After lurking for about 5 months, I joined and began posting on September 7th. I am still quite proud of the day the following winter when Sean invited me to be co-moderator of the Red Sox forum. I can't begin to tell how much I have learned about baseball, and other things from the fine members of these boards.

Magazines I subscribe to: Archaeology, Science News, Smithsonian, National Geographic, The Artist's Magazine, Elysian Fields Quarterly.

Favorite TV, besides baseball: M*A*S*H, Due South, WKRP in Cincinatti (especially the episode with the softball game), documentaries, PBS, The Connections series, Forensic Files, stuff like that. No lowest-common-denominator network junk. Oh, and believe it or not, I like to watch Dr. Who! (The original Dr Who, that is. Tom Baker was the best.)

The little kid in me still loves Looney Toons. Bugs, Daffy, Elmer, Sylvester, Wile E. Coyote, Foghorn Leghorn... Hats off the Chuck Jones, Friz Freling, the artists, voices, musicians... that stuff is artwork. :)

Pastimes and hobbies: BBF, of course; gardening, reading, botany. When I have time – hiking, fishing. Recently I've taken up photography and really want to study this art form.

I have transcribed almost 5 dozen letters written back and forth among my ancestors and family friends during the Civil War, then did genealogical research and hours of looking up regimental rosters and histories in order to footnote them properly. I really ought to type them up someday.

Unusual thing I like to do: walk old graveyards and collect epitaphs, odd names and take rubbings of carvings. I am a member of the Vermont Old Cemeteries Association.

Unusual fact you may or may not believe: I live in a haunted house.

I also once tried to teach myself to speak Irish Gaelic -- even sent away and bought tapes and textbook from a language-tutorial company. I think I got to Chapter Eight and the only thing I can say is Ta na muintir na Gaeltach anseo -- The people who speak Irish are here. I'll never get by in County Cork with only that. But I don't expect to go to Cork any time soon, so that's okay. Maybe I'll take another stab at it someday.

Favorite foods: A picnic. A hot dog, roasted on a stick over a fire in the woods, scorched black, with pine-stick ashes dusting it, with ketchup, potato salad, a pickle and tater chips. Yum! Also baked beans (big beans, baked in a garlic-maple-mustard sauce – no onions or tomato sauce!! – and cooked 6 hours in a stoneware pot), red-flannel hash (especially when the onions and beets start to caramelize).

Things I fear: driving in traffic; most spiders; mockery.

Pet Peeves: people who tailgate; bad drivers in general; the fact that I can get Yankees games on the radio where I live, but not Red Sox games; people who “write” illegible signatures; people who get drunk at ball games; the constant and aggravating misspelling of the word "DEFINITELY" (it's related to "finite" and "infinite" -- there is no "A" in there!!)...

Things I hate: Ostentatious displays of wealth and status. People who have to drive a silver Jag, or build an 18,000 square-foot mansion in order to impress have quite the opposite effect on me. Just as there are different sorts of poverty, there are different sorts of wealth, and I believe that the most precious and rare luxury of all is contentment. You can't plug a big, windy gap in your soul with STUFF. Wealth can’t buy contentment, and lack of wealth doesn’t preclude it. (I don't care too much for money; money can't buy me love. ;))

I also hate the taste of cumin, bitter and spicy foods, lamb, stinky cheeses and most seafood. Also McMansions built on arable land; Hummers; stupid movies; tourists; greed; waste; vulgarity; insincerity; roadside litter, and anything fermented. Can’t drink wine, beer, liquor, anything like that. Makes me sick as a dog.

Recent big purchase: I just bought an 1890s cast iron kitchen range, and intend to build myself a small house around it, just big enough for me (and if I should happen to meet him, the guy I’d share it with). 2006 update: This summer I purchased a ready-made a 16'x20' cabin, (http://www.jamaicacottageshop.com/16x20vtr.asp) at a ridiculous markdown. It was delivered in August. Tucked between pines and gray birches up on the hill, this will be my studio/getaway/guest room.

2010 update - after years of frustrating delay, the cottage is finally becoming my studio. It is insulated, wired, ready to finish off with paint and porch rails and storage for art supplies. I'll get a dorm fridge, an electric kettle, and stick a futon in the loft so I have a place to get away to when I need a vacation on which I can't afford to spend time or money.


you do realize, don't you annie, that since 9:45 this morning more than two dozen guys have fallen in love with you?

:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh *blush*

I do want to thank everyone for their kind welcomes to this thread. I wish I had come across it sooner, but, well, I've been a little distracted this spring.

I printed out the whole thread (there goes one of those $32 ink cartridges!) and have read it twice -- it's so great to get to know everyone here better. It's probably the closest thing we'll ever have to a BBF convention -- though I still cherish hopes that a few of us can gather at Cooperstown someday.

A few things I forgot in my first post:

I LOVE the Marx Brothers. A Night at the Opera, Duck Soup, Monkey Business, Animal Crackers, Horsefeathers... those guys were geniuses. I also would love to own every silent film Buster Keaton ever made.

People I admire:
-My Mom and Dad, of course.
-Jimmy Carter
-George Aiken
-Robert Stafford
-Jodie Williams
-Dr. Carlos G. Otis, who founded Grace Cottage Hospital, where 3 of my siblings and I were born. He was a good, true country doctor, and a visionary.
-Meyer Schapiro, Professor of Art History at Columbia University, presented with the Keys to several cities, and a dear close family friend. He dandled my mom on his knee, and years later, all of her children. Also his wife, Dr. Lillian Milgrim Schapiro who became a pediatrician in the 1920s, a hard time for women to succeed in the medical field.
-Lance Armstrong
-John Hart, signer of the Declaration of Independence, and an ancestor of mine
-Lorenzo de Medici (Lorenzo the Magnificent)
-William Shakespeare
-My great-great-grandfather Ward Philip Kingsbury, who lied about his age in order to join the army (he was 62, and said he was 42). Joined Co. D, 16th Vt Volunteers, Grand Army of the Republic, and fought at Gettysburg. The 16th Vt was instrumental in halting the right flank of Pickett's Charge -- you can look it up. He was a member of the Music Corps for Co. D, and I still have the fife he played, and his letters home, and his belt buckle. "Fife right through hell, Uncle Ward," his fellow soldiers would say, "and we'll follow you." (Incidentally, his son Martin Kingsbury, who also went to the Civil War (Co E, 5th Vt Volunteers) was a Red Sox fan and was at Fenway when the Sox won it all in 1918.)

Something else I forgot:

This past winter Sean started a baseball blog -- "Around the Horn" -- and before things got frantic this spring, I posted a few entries there, under the heading Baseball Musings (http://www.around-the-horn.com/?cat=1). I hope to be able to contribute more, if I ever get the time to sit down and write.
Tony (West Coast Orange and Black) to Annie:

i am over here on one knee, gettin' ready to ask you a question.

I'll make it easy on you: the only diamond I want is made of dirt and grass, and has a big green wall all around it! :) :D


Tony (West Coast Orange and Black) to Annie:

so... if i build it...

yer such a Good Sport.

(please note the use of caps, annie. the last time i did that 'round here was, um, never.)

07-13-2005, 12:12 PM
I feel the gauntlet has been thrown down by my Red Sox Co-Mod, Annie (VTSoxFan). I shall try to be brief, because while brevity is the soul of wit, "The Simpsons" have also shown that brevity...is wit.

Name: Edward Martin (the givens name of both my grandfathers)
Born: February 19, 1970. Newport, Rhode Island. Naval Hospital.

Education: Too much. After 12 years of Catholic schooling, including East Catholic High School, Manchester, CT (1984-88), I took a 5-year plan through college. I struggled a great deal with self-discipline, but in the end I attended 4 years worth of Ripon College, Ripon, WI (1988-1993), with one year abroad in Bonn, Germany (1992). After yet another year without solid direction, I entered the German M.A. program in the Modern and Classical Languages at UConn. I completed the M.A. program in 5 semesters (it should have taken 4), then took a year off to work and re-evaluate. After 8 months as a temp in the annuities division of CIGNA just as it was being sold to Lincoln Financial (1997-8). I consider this education too because I got to watch the single steepest drop-off in the stock market and saw people's savings frozen in place as the market shut down for a few hours. Sobering. I then took a semester in Potsdam, Germany (1998), where I rekindled my love of the German language and of education. I returned for the Ph.D. program where I resumed both. I passed my general exams in 2000 and have been ABD since. I continue to teach, although I now teach German culture through literature, which also requires me to teach writing. I'm currently putting the final touches on the design of my fall research project for the empirical piece of a generally theoretical dissertation.

I'll spare you all that.

I hated baseball as a kid. Not the Red Sox. Never. But I hated baseball profoundly. Baseball had never generated enough mental stimulation as a kid because I was often plunked down in left field and never caught an outfield fly. I had one moment when I turned a DP playing at 3rd base, but once again I had lingered in the Farm League and never made it to the Littles.

Baseball had been boring because my father's way of watching baseball emulated his own father's. Often we sat around, not saying much, watching the Red Sox. Often, it was suicide to open our mouths, so I had to rely upon the commentators to explain what was going on. But what kind of kid likes that? Soccer became my sport for a number of reasons. First, there was almost no dely in play time, second even a person my size can play.

If I had one word to describe myself, I would likely choose "intelligent." If I had only one to describe myself physically, it would be "short." Like some character from The Tin Drum, I have not grown an inch sinch junior high. Believe it or not, this fact has significant baseball relevance. My parents are not tall people. My father is almost 5'10" and my mother is 5'0". Her mother was even shorter. Unfortunately, when I was very young my doctor expressed concern for my size. I was monitored for a few years but then my doctor referred us to a childrens hospital. There they decided to suggest treatment for my "condition" and my night-school graduate mother left the decision to me. My growth was monitored by X-raying my wrists because, we were told, even though there was no risk, they wanted to make sure they were not over-medicating me. Several years later, when I was serving as a blood donor, I was asked if I had ever taken growth hormone. Of course, with today's agri-business, who hasn't. Because I wasn't sure what I had taken I did some research and discovered that for over 2 years I was being given a daily dosage of an anabolic steroid. The literature on that particular steroid indicates that it is most often used on girls with Turner's Syndrome (extreme shortness--that's a syndrome???) but that it is also used by some athletes because it doesn't carry most of the same side effects of other steroids, especially for post-pubescents. Unfortunately, they were given to me just before the onset of puberty. Since the age of 14 I've stood 5' 1 1/2", despite predictions I would be at least 5' 6".

As you can imagine, I have very strong opinions about steroids in baseball.

I did say I'd be witty, or at least brief, so I'll just say that I've always loved the Red Sox. My mother's father was a Dodger fan who switched to the Red Sox before I was born. Because my grandmother was fully deaf from the age of 3 and he had lost most of his hearing at 5, the only sound I remember from my grandfather's lips were, "Lookie, Lookie, Lookie, here comes Cookie!"

My only regret from last year is that I can no longer offer my students a day off if the Red Sox win the World Series. As you might have guessed, I finally had to pay up. I always told my students to take it as a religious holiday, because we all deserve a day off when Hell freezes over. I'll have to come up with a new rationalization.

07-14-2005, 01:32 PM
Hello everyone,

My name is Scott Moore.I was born and raised in St Louis from 1960 until 1979.I went to college on North Carolina and South Carolina majoring in engineering.I was a grad in 1987 from the Univ of South Carolina.I worked for a German comapny that manufactures and repairs Dairy Machines all over the world.I hold several patents for a rotary linear, automatice and pulsator dairy machines.I retired in 2000.

I now work with several little league groups in the Columbia, SC area and do some umpiring on the side.I am also a part time bartender at a sportsbar in SC.

I did play little league and Babe Ruth League baseball but that was long long ago in a city far far away.

My hobbies consist of drinking beer, brewing beer, poker, collecting sportcards, raising livestock for profit, watching sports in person or on the boobtube.

My favorite baseball player is Bob Gibson.I have been a Cards fan since birth.My father started me in the right direction when taking me to the late 1960's Cards games and letting me see the likes of Brock, Maris, Mays, Aaron, Banks, and tons more.I have seen over 800+ cards games in my life.

My favorite type of music is German Classical.(I spent almost two years in Germany traveling back and forth for work)

I am a fan of a big sausage dog on a wheat bun covered in brown mustard and cole slaw.Love all types of hot food Italian, Mexican, Chinese, German, Dutch, and Korean.

My favorite type of movies are Western, War, Detective, and Sci-Fi/Fantasy.My favorite movie is Raiders of the Lost Ark and my favorite actor is John Wayne.

My favorite author is John D McDonald.

My favorite kind of ice cream is strawberry.

My favorite kind of woman is willing :D

My best friend is named Chris and he is a LA Dodgers fane so we are at each others throats every baseball season.


Women that leave the seat up.

Women that love to spend my money.

Women that dont enjoy sports.

Women that drink all my beer.

Friends that drink the last beer in the fridge.(the last brew is always mine when at my house)

Mothers that will not let their daughters date an older man.

Dads that think you are not good enough for their daughters.

Mothers that come o to their daughters boyfriend.

Drivers that dont know how to use a turn signal.
Scott's Official Opinions:

- Scott

07-14-2005, 07:21 PM
name: #1Rangerfan
age: 14
born: Ft. Worth, TX
live: on a ranch 1 1/2 hours south of Ft. Worth near a little town nobody knows about so I'm not going to name it.
favorite team: Texas Rangers 1996 1998 1999
Favorte players: alltime-Ted Williams, right now- Mark Texiara, Alfonso Soriano, Michael Young, Hank Blalock, Alex Rodriguez, Kenny Rogers, Albert Pujols, Pudge Rodriguez, Rafeal Palmero

My interest in baseball began with my mom's family. My grandparents and uncles plan their whole lives around game times, and won't do anything while a Rangers, Maverick, Cowboy, of Aggie game is on. I got my mom's love of sports with my dad's athletic ability (decent athlete, linebacker, 1st baseman, run the quater in track). I've been following the Rangers ever since I was old enough to remember. My fondest memory when the Rangers won the West in 99, swept the A's last day of season. Got their butt kicked by the Yanks later.

Favorite movies: 61*, the Natural, Sandlott, Pride of the Yankees, Major League, any John Wayne movie.

Favorite actors: John Wayne, James Stewart, Adam Sandler, Tom Hanks

Favorite music: don't listen to music much, always got my radio tunned to ESPN or Ranger game or Sean Hannity.

Favorite TV: Rangers games, Aggies FB games, ESPN, Fox Sports Southwest

relegion: Christian (hard headed Baptist)

political: Consevative Republican

things that need to happen in baseball: AL needs to expand to 16 teams, no interleague play, Yankees and Red Sox need to disban

started playing t-ball at 4 started baseball at 7.

07-19-2005, 07:57 PM
Name: Chris
Nickname: Pingu (I can turn my feet 180 degrees outwards each - I walk like a penguin :))
Age: 18
Born: Bristol, England (hence the name)
Lived in Treforest, Pontypridd, Wales from October 04 to June 05 due to university, back home in Bristol now though

University: UoGlamorgan, Bachelor of Science in Mathematics
Let's see... medical research volunteer, student mentor, university student, bassist in a moderately well known band locally (and I end up with the song writing responsibilities), I run my website, I help a friend with his and I help my mother with her job when it comes to the computer. Nothing there that could actually be construed as a job really, so no, I don't have a job
Work: Student mentor for 14-16 year olds, medical research volunteer

Baseball: Just a fan, no diamonds here
Favorite Artists: (In no particular order) Powerman 5000, Opeth, Symphony X, Iced Earth
Favorite Albums: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, Alive in Athens, The Odyssey, Blackwater Park
Favorite Movies/Documentaries: SLC Punk, Rocky I, II and IV
Favorite Teams: Gloucestershire CCC
Favorite Baseball Players: Ichiro, Greg Maddux
Favorite TV: MLB on five, Dirty Sanchez
Favorite Games: MVP 05, Tekken 5, Streetfighter 2 (I love Ryu! :D), PES 4
Heroes in Life:

- Peter Schmeichel, Danish goalkeeper a few years ago - I idolized him when I used to play football regularly. I tried copying him in every single way, even his ritual of kicking the posts before matches. First poster I had on my wall.

- Steve Harris, bassist for Iron Maiden - if I could be half the bassist he is, I could die a very happy man. EVerything he does is just, well, magic to me and my ears. All I need is the blistering finger picking speed and absolute fretboard command and the strength to match, and I'm done. Except for the song writing ability. And the awesome hair. And the rest of the band. And the amazing basses. Damn.

- My Nan - she's really the only person in my family that keeps me from thinking I'm adopted. The nicest person I've ever had in my life and always, always bends over backwards to help people without second thought of how it screws her day up. That, and how many 75 year old grandmothers do you know that have learnt how to email and send pictures to relatives AND still have time to do the gardening? Nan, you rock :clapping.


Just got round to adding my life to that post - what a great idea! But now, some anger needs venting...

1/ Damn people who wear Yankees logos on everything here in the UK and have clearly never seen a baseball game in their life.

2/ People who force religion on me - the guy who stands in the town centre handing out leaflets and shouting over his amplifier about the wonders of God, the Jehovah's Witnesses who knock on my door. I've no problem with religion or people who are religious, I just don't like it rammed down my throat.

3/ The fact games in the US and Japan get released before they do here, if they get released at all - MVP Baseball, Super Mario Baseball, Katamari Damacy, loads of games! Grrrr!

4/ Baseball season ends too early.

5/ Baseball season starts too late.

6/ The fact Australia always beats us at cricket.

7/ The fact Australia always beats us at rugby.

8/ Having to get myself out of bed - in an ideal world I'd only get up for food and calls of nature.

9/ Pop music.

10/ Rap music.

Just thought of something I'd post - I have this ongoing theory with my mates (this has lasted since about 2001) that there is not a single problem on this earth that cannot be solved by firing someone or something out of a cannon. Think about it.
RealNod to Bristol Boy:
Dirty Sanchez? If I understand you right, I'm not touching that one.

I love Tekken, though I've not played Tekken 5, but have played the previous Tekkens. Baek's my character of choice; I can rock Baek like nobody's business. Bruce is another character I can do serious damage with, though my repertoire is more limited with Bruce. PJack, Gun Jack, Whatever Jack, is the character I can absolutely crush certain players with.

Street Fighter:
Love Street Fighter. I prefer Ken to Ryu; same moves, but Ken's are faster, although they're less powerful. The speed makes up for it for me. In SF2, Ryu's hurricane kick and uppercut seem inferior to me. My second favorite character is Guile. Jump that Sonic Boom and get treated to a Flash Kick.

For the bass, well, I am not a bass player, but a guitar player. I got really fast once, as fast as you can probably get. Try really fat picks. Build to speed, don't just try and pick speedy right off. Always stay loose. I can't imagine how much harder it is to deal with the bigger frets and larger space between them, and I don't want to.
Bristol Boy back to RealNod:
Dirty Sanchez makes Jackass look like the Royal Shakespeare Company.

I'm actually entering a national Tekken 5 tournament in August - Jin/Devil Jin, Heihachi, Kazuya, Bryan, Nina, Asuka, Jun, Jack, Kuma, I can play a few characters well .

Ken isn't all that faster, and the Shoryuken is just awful - you miss with that and you're screwed. Ryu's Hadouken is the reason he's better than Ken - faster, stronger, and the Shin Hadouken is awesome. Never liked charge characters such as Guile, except for Vega (or Balrog, depending on the region you got your game from). I could sit here and talk about Streetfighter all day, it's my favourite game and always will be. I have Streetfighter shirts, a Ryu PS2 controller, a few copies of the manga (which are hard to obtain here), the animated movie on DVD, all sorts.

07-19-2005, 09:34 PM
Bill, Interesting to exchange ideas with a fellow Jasper ( Manhattan College ) . Here is some abbreviated background. Age: 61, Born Staten Island N.Y. Father: Captain of Tank Destroyers KIA with Patton's 3rd Army one month after I was born. MA Georgetown, MBA Columbia. Currently retired and working on my golf game. Played baseball through college and into the mid-minors. As a teenager played twice at Cooperstown as part of two NYS Championship teams. Also played in the famed Journal American All-Star game at Yankee Stadium when that newspaper sponsored an annual All-Star game between the US All-Stars and the New York All-Stars. One of my closest friends made it to the big leagues from '67-72. Another played with the early Met teams as a pitcher. Perhaps my closest friend made it to AAA ( although I always thought that he was the best athlete of the three ). He was the International League All-Star 2nd and 3rd baseman several years running, playing on Mets AAA farm team with Harrelson and Seaver. Unfortunately, he had an All-Star Second Baseman in Ron Hunt blocking his way to the Majors. Realizing that my baseball potential was quite limited I turned to golf with some degree of success. Traveled extensively with another friend who plays on the Senior ( Champions Tour ). I do not consider myself a sports nut ( love college basketball but will almost never watch the Pro's ). Regarding baseball and being a product of New York baseball of the 50's and 60's I enjoyed the players of that era. Mantle was my guy but I admired the way Snider played the game. Mays just never did anything for me although his ability and skills are unquestioned. Actually met both Mantle and Mays at a party on Staten Island. Also met Bobby Thompson ( "shot heard round the world" ) and he had a pair of the biggest hands I ever saw. Mantle and Mays, by the way , were at most 5'10" or 5'11" not the 6' as sometimes listed. As a baseball nut back then I saved all the sports magazines including Sport and Baseball Digest. Wary of the overuse of statistics I was always interested in what fellow ballplayers, scouts, and other baseball people thought of players like Mantle and Mays. While not infallible I tend to value their input as much as any statistic.Later, Bob Gibson was one of my favorites ( met him also ). Not only a great pitcher but an outstanding athlete (basketball) and carried himself with a lot of class. Other favorite, though less talanted players, included Carl Furillo, Andy Cary, Jimmy Piersall and Larry Doby ( boy did he have a tough park to play in ). All-time favorites include Jimmy Foxx, and Lou Gerhig. The more I read about DiMaggio the less I like him. Great player, lousy human being.Regarding the Mantle/Mays debate I settled that a long time ago in my mind. For the first 10 or so years Mantle was slightly ahead. Marty Marion a National Leaguer said in 1959 that Mantle was the best player in both leagues. However, around 1962 Mays became the obvious better player as Mantle's injuries caught up to him. Mantle, in fact , made a joke of it. In the World Series against the Giants both were having a terrible series. A fan yelled to Mickey "Hey Mantle. We all came here to see who was better. Now we want to know who is worse!". LOL

07-22-2005, 04:52 PM
can I still sign? Here it goes...........

NAME: Mario Padilla
Nationality: Dominican
Age: 16
Occupation: going on to junior year of HS
Hobby: I play baseball in HS and outside

I've been raised in the Bronx, NY and im a avid Yankee Fan. Started watching in the year 2000. My Favorite players are Pujols and A-rod. My favorite Historical players are Lou Gehrig and Jimmie Foxx. In my freshmen year of HS I hit a disappointing .150 in 25Ab and struck out 14 times! I came back my sophmore year I hit .500 in 18Ab and struck out only 3 times. I led the team in OBP with .632. This summer I've practicing switch-hitting. So far im a MUCH better RH hitter. I made no errors in the outfield in sophmore year and probably the best Defensive outfielder in my neighborhood. I have good speed and show signs of power (LH i hit a ball out of the park went about 250-320ft and RH I hit one 300-350ft) thats great considering i weigh about 120lbs and am 5'7.
Mario's Official Opinions:

07-25-2005, 02:14 PM
Reckon I'm the token farmboy. Raised on a dairyfarm in the land of Burliegh Grimes and Johnny Blood. My mom taught seven grades in one room. By the time I started it had improved to just six grades in two rooms. No war stories for my dad. He was deferred. His mom died when he was 19 and that meant he became in charge of the farm and also in charge of his 10 and 5 year old sisters. Grandpa's work put him on the road for long stretches. Everyday my dad would hop on his bike(ever ride one with balloon tires) up and down the gravel hills for two miles to the farm. milk the cows and hitch up the horses and work. Then on the bike back home to check on his little sisters and then back to the farm till dark and then back home again.
In school the sixth graders played a little softball. We younger kids played horses. That's where you wrap a piece of twine around the girls waist and run behind her pretending she's your horse. Or maybe slave girl.That's where the girls would go in the ditch and pull grass and carry it in bundles to us guys where we built our grass forts.(remember this would be the early to mid 60's)
In fifth grade all the country schools were shut down and the kids shipped to town. From a record size class of 17, I now had over 100 classmates. In town they all played ball. I caught pop ups with my cap as I had no glove. Finally my grandma gave me my uncle's. I workd up the nerve to bring it to school once. I'm sure I burned it... Foolish, it had to be World War one vintage.
My passion kicked in during sixth grade when (can't remember the details)I swapped some Beatles and Dark Shadow cards with a classmate for baseball cards. Still gottem too.
I recall the Twins games on the old staticy radio in the barn. After chores I'd pour a glass of Kool Aid and add some of my dad's alka seltzer tablets to make it more like pop. We only got pop if it was a dime or less but I think poor old dad wound up paying more in Alka Seltzer. Followed the Twins till 71. Then the Brewers got a radio affiliate up in our neck of the state and I became a Brewer fan.
I recall one time coming home from chuch on a drizzlie day and heading to the field in front of the barn to hit some fly balls. My dad came out of the barn and asked for the bat and hit me a few. Only time he played ball. City folks are saying "How sad"> I'll bet there's some farm kids saying "How lucky"
Baseball game consisted of usually two on two or maybe three. Games were played in the pasture with a taped up ball and either a rock or tree as a base. Of course the ball would ultimately land in a cow pie. Just rub it in the grass and continue.
No high school sports for me. Too busy on the farm . Besides I was a rotten ballplayer..

Favorite cds: I've never purchased one.
Favorite music: CCR,BTO, The Who,Tommy Overstreet, Gene Watson(yeah,a real mixture)
Favorite movies: Meet John Doe, anything Laurel and Hardy and the Scarlet Pimpernel
Favorite actor: Leslie Howard and Randolph Scott
Favorite actress: Eva Gabor(yup I love and can associate with Green Acres and I love Eva too,especially since I'm about the age she was during the show.)
Favorite book: Andersonville,Ball Four and almost any biography or old newspaper.
Best moment: Becoming a dad at 37. Two tubulars, three miscarriages and a stillborn sprinkled in made the event all the more appreciated.
I ain't got no pet peeves unless it's when the liquor store clerk calls me by my first name. I don't think I go in there that often.
I hope everyone appreciates what a great site this is. The ability to carry on a decent discussion. I'm not much on screaming and name calling. If I wanted that I'd go back on the church council I reckon.
I married a Vikequeen and she dragged me over to the wrong side of the river. Sundays she's in the house watching the Vikes and I sit in my shed watching the Packers. I like football on tv,but I love baseball on the radio.Am I the only one who prefers baseball on the radio?
Now living on 5 acres surrounded by thousands of acres of corn and soybeans. Though I'm not a farmer, the country life is the life for me. Two good size gardens, no need to go indoors if nature calls and a neat tree house our daughter has outgrown. Mom and dad use it some nights now... if you know what I mean...
I haven't really had a favorite player though I do like that thin black kid at second for Milwaukee. The guy with the quick wrists, thunder in his bat and the sleepy time eyelids. There's talk he may end up in the outfield. Too early for deja vu Milwaukee? It happened a little over 50 years ago. Compare the pics of Hank and Rickey. I've also got a thing for this lefty Chris Capuano. Smart, knows how to pitch, he can swing a bat and can pick runners off like Jed Clampett can shoot critters. Keep an eye on him.
There, is that long enough Bill? Keep the good work Gentleman.
Bill, You are not only well read and accurate on Ruth and Cobb,but also music as well. I'm a book worm with a pretty good memory along with an obsession with history.
I know I said I'd leave this thread, but like an alcoholic standing outside the tavern you reeled me back in. Why music ain't what it used to be?
In my opinion every big song in any format has to do one of two things. Make you wet or make you sweat. Sweat as in toe tapping,dancing, air guitar etc. Wet as in a tear or in a sensual way.Let's just throw out some songs from all kinds of genres.

Songs from a waaaaay back. Dixie or Johnny Comes Marching Home. Two famous songs that make most folks want to move or sweat.

Country: Conway Twitty's I've already loved you in my mind. Carnal Conway conjures up conjugal confontations. Wet.

Church Hymns. Joy to the World.. Sweat and a desire to to lift up and move or Little Town of Bethlehm. Wet. A tear is evoked from a soft and tender story. I can name only one hymn that's been put in place the last ten years or so that has almost become a standard. Borning Cry... It's a song that puts a tear in my eye.

Rock: How about Slow Ride.... Anyone else enjoy that song as a hit and wonder what a slow ride must be like. Today we middle agers maybe don't think about a slow ride, but rather how we felt back then with the AM radio cranked up and our innocent minds wondering "What is it like?

Oldtime: Beer Barrel Polka. That makes many want to tap their toes or how about the Anniversary Waltz or Rangers Waltz. That slow beat that perhaps causes a tear and takes you back to Mom and Dad's time.

Or think of any Elvis song.. They all apply to the sweat or wet line of thinking.

What is there today to conjure up a feeling to make one sweat or get wet?

A slow ride?? A young person is a mouseclick away from all the slow rides he or she wants to gawk at. How about a song like Steppenwolf's The Pusher... In the 60's and 70's it was exciting and daring to think of having a toke. The stories I hear from school today indicate it's more than just a toke to get your kicks.
Sorry about this wet or sweat thing, but it's the only way I could explain my thoughts.

We're all either getting old or in the case of many young folks, they are becoming desensitized. It takes a song about the thrill of killing a cop or some far out disgusting thing to get that feeling of getting wet or needing to sweat.

My other reason would be Ronald Reagan. No, I'm not getting into politics. His hand in deregulation allowed communications companies to own tons of radio and tv outlets. If they don't hear it or see it, they won't buy it... Owning large blocks of media outlets means going public much the way of other enterprises. You have fewer people dictating to more people what to say and play. Be safe and let's make a profit. Can you picture the CEO of Wal Mart telling the stockholders " You've lost twenty cents a share this quarter. Most of this is due to our installing car washes with dvd players. We weren't too sure if it would fly but I really like to rock out when I wash my car" Good bye CEO. Screw you, we want profits.. Stick with something sure.

If you ever have the chance to get out in the country and listen to some tiny market stations that aren't part of a public block, you'll hear quite a few songs you don't hear on larger market stations. There's one about a half mile from me that's part of a vey small group. I hear quite a few songs that I can't find anywhere else on the radio dial.Because Big Brother isn't telling them what to play... I suppose the fact there no longer is the chance to have a B side hit of a record might factor a bit as well.

Another make'em wet or make'em sweat.... Name as many artists that you can that might be described as homely. I haven't a clue as to rap or rock,but I am up on country. The only ones I can think of are some artists from the past like Pete Townsend, Mama Cass,Ring Starr,Hank and Hank Williams Jr. So many of the artists are sooooo cute... Make'em wet or make'em sweat with those pearly whites and tight hindends... The music comes second...

Enough for now... just some simple thoughts from a simple mind...

I sure enjoy all the conversations you guys have...Thanks for letting me horn in and blab a bit..

Yankee Legend
07-25-2005, 03:30 PM
My name is elliot

Age: 16 (I may be young but I know alot about the game)

Besides the fact that im a teenager I may be a bit different than all of you. This is because on May 2, 1989, I was born in Moscow, Russia. I immigrated to the US on christmas day in 1990. I live in Brooklyn, NY from Dec. 1990-Feb. 1993. I moved to Nassua, NY and lived there from Feb 1993-Oct 1993. I then moved back to Brooklyn and lived there till Oct 1995. Then I moved to nearby Staten Island, NY where I live now.

My team is the New York Yankees. My favorite current players are Derek Jeter, Tino Martinez, Alex Rodriguez, Mike Mussina, Mariano Rivera, Jason Giambi, Hideki Matsui, Bernie Williams, Jorge Posada, Andy Pettite, Roger Clemens, Alfoso Soriano, Ichiro, and Nomar Garciparra.

My favorite Old-timers are Ty Cobb, The Babe, Joltin Joe, The Scooter, Yogi Berra, Lou Gerhig, Walter Johnson, Whtiey Ford, Paul O'Neil, Wade Boggs, and Mickey Mantle

Players I dont like are Pedro Martinez, Eric Gagne, Trot Nixon, Kevin Millar, Johnny Damon, Mike Piazza, Barry Bonds, John Smoltz, and John Rocker.

Other than baseball my favorite athletes are Patrick Ewing, Scott Stevens, Martin Broduer, Patrick Elias, Latrell Sprewell, Allan Houston, Steve Yzerman, Sergei Federov, Chad Pennington, and Jeremy Shockey.

Favorite Books:
"Native Son" by Richard Wright
"Fast Food Nation" by Eric Shlosser
"The Godfather" by Mario Puzo
"Red Rabbit" by Tom Clancy
"The Hunt for Red October" by Tom Clancy
"Rainbow Six" by Tom Clancy

Favortie Bands:
Pink Floyd
Red Hot Chili Peppers

How I got into baseball:
The first time I saw the game was when my dad played it in '94. Some of my dad's co-workers started to play in a small league for fun and invited him to join. He wore the #10 and was a catcher. Of coarse when I saw him play I had no idea what this game was. Then in 1996 I watched my first game. It was the World Series, Yankees vs. Braves. I couldn't understand the game but I thought it was incredible! The excitement, the thrill. I just kept watching it and watching it. I actually learned how to play in the summer of '97. I was in summer camp and decided to play the game with some of the other kids. They taught me it. I picked up the game better than other kids from Eastern European immigrants. It was the perfect game for me. Baseball has been my passion since then.
I'll update mine with William's chart.

Elliot, 5'8; 150 lbs.
Born: May 2, 1989, Moscow, Russia.
1989-1991: Lived in Moscow, Russia
1991-1993: Lived in Brooklyn, NY
1993: Lived in Long Island, NY
1993-1995: Lived in Bensonhurst (Brooklyn), NY
1995-now: Live in Staten Island, NY (go SI Yanks!)

I Presently reside: Staten Island, NY
Education: Brooklyn Tech H.S. College soon (Don't know which one yet).
Nationality: Russian/Jewish
Work History: Real Estate intern, some entrepenuering here and there.
Favorite ballplayers: Most of the Yankees. Jeter would probably be my favorite.
Favorite movies: Too many
Favorite Rock Acts: Tool, Nirvana, Metallica, Disturbed, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, AC/DC
Favorite Rock CD's:
Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: AC/DC, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Beatles, Nirvana
Music I Don't Care For: Rap, Hip-Hop, Pop-Punk types (i.e. Linkin Park, Good Charlotte, Blink 182, etc.).
Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Baseball: Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Sandy Koufax, Derek Jeter, Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson, Roger Clemens, A-Rod, and many more. Non-Baseball: Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, Clyde Frazier, Willis Reed, Magic Johnson, Patrick Ewing, Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Mario Lemeuix, Patrick Roy, Martin Broduer, Joe Montana, Emmit Smith, Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Joe Lewis, Muhammed Ali, Joe Frazier, Mike Tyson and Evander Holifield.
Favorite Basketball Players: Patrick Ewing
Favorite Football Runners: Tiki Barber, Curtis Martin, Emmit Smith and Barry Sanders
Favorite Movie Directors: Speilberg, Tarrantino, Coppola, Cameron
Favorite Actors: Will Smith, Eddy Murphy, Jim Carey, Jet Li, Harrison Ford
Favorite Books: Native Son, Godfather, Earth, American Theocracy
Favorite Sports Books: Haven't read any good ones. When I was little I read a good book called, ironically enough, Baseball Fever
Favorite Rock Geniuses: Tool
My Most Admired Americans: Lincoln, Reagan, Bill Gates, Robert E. Lee
Hobbies: BBF, doing business, hanging out with people, reading
Favorite Foods: Anything without Mayo
Favorite Rock Tunes: Too Many
Favorite TV Shows: Colbert Report, Mind of Mencia, South Park
Favorite Comedy Stuff: See above, Eddy Murphy, George Carlin
Least Favorite People: The Religious Right
Favorite TV Characters: Cartman
My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: Dont know what you mean by classic but 61*, Major League series, the one with Rogers Hornsby, A League of their Own
Photos of me.

Windy City Fan
07-26-2005, 01:58 PM
Craig Ashley
Born July 27, 1977

As to baseball, I come from a long line of dedicated White Sox fans. Both my father and grandfather were/are fans. They managed to infect me with their disease as a young child, though I wasn't much of a fan. Harold Baines was my favorite player as a child, and I didn't know much beyond that.

Oddly enough baseball wasn't a big deal to me as a youngster. I wasn't very good at it as a kid and it was a source of conflict between me and my dad. I did play little league (outfield of course), but was never very good. When I was in seventh grade, I got interested in baseball cards. My original intention was to make money through collecting, but I quickly discovered a passion for the game. The same year, the White Sox traded Harold Baines to the Rangers, and in my anger I vowed to become a Cubs fan. They were doing well that year (1989). My dad and I even made a bet on which team would win the pennant first, Sox or Cubs. Sixteen years later, no one has collected.

So my first real baseball memories are of watching the Cubs, laughing at Harry Carray's antics, and learning the game from Steve Stone. I got out of baseball card collecting while I was in high school - the prices for cards rose faster than my income. As I became a teen, and turned into an average athlete. The kids in my neighborhood got together and actually built a baseball field on an empty lot using "borrowed" lumber from construction sites of new homes in the subdivision.

Of my two brothers, one joined me in my Cubs conversion, and the other remained loyal to the White Sox. So now when we all get together, its a good bet there will be a spirited debate/trash talking session about the city's baseball teams.

I married a great woman 6 years ago, and luckily her and her family are all Cubs fans. I still play in a softball league, alternating mostly between pitcher and second base.

Some random crap about me:

I worked as a fence installer for a few years. A friend and I even tried to go into business for ourselves, but ultimately couldn't make a go of it. During our brief partnership, I handled most of the sales and took a liking to it. Flapping my gums was a lot easier than digging holes. So I tried my hand at sales.

I sold home improvements, advertising, magazine subscriptions, and even perfume, but I grew discontent with the field. The hours were evenings and weekends, which greatly reduced my time spent with my wife, family, and any personal pursuits. Finally I decided that no career was worth my personal life, and quite to go back to college.

I went as a kid out of high school, but didn't take it seriously and basically wasted time for a year and a half. Since I've gone back, my GPA is around 3.5 and I'm about half way to my degree, a double major in Education and History.

Favorite Baseball players of all time: Nolan Ryan, Mark Grace, Greg Maddux, Ty Cobb, Ted Williams, Goose Gossage, Harold Baines, Honus Wagner, Cy Young, Billy Martin

Favorite Bands: Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Black Sabbath, Van Halen, Jimmy Hendrix, The Beatles, Johnny Cash, Ozzy Osbourne, Eric Clapton, Guns and Roses

Favorite Led Zeppelin Songs: Dazed and Confused, When the Levee Breaks, Gallows Pole, In My Time of Dying, Heartbreaker, Whole Lotta Love, Stairway to Heaven

Favorite songs by bands not named Led Zeppelin: Fade to Black, No Leaf Clover, Master of Puppets (Metallica), Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club, Revolution, Let it Be, Hey Jude (The Beatles), Hurt, When the Man Comes Around, Rusty Cage (Johnny Cash), The Man Who Sold the World, Heart Shaped Box (Nirvana), Paranoid, War Pigs, Iron Man (Black Sabbath) Smoke on the Water (Deep Purple), The House of the Rising Son (The Animals), Sunday Bloody Sunday (U2), When Love Comes to Town (U2 and BB King), Don't You Cry, Dead Horse, Civil War (Guns and Roses)

Favorite Movies: Godfather I and II, The Usual Suspects, The Enemy Below, Tombstone, Patton, White Heat, Goodfellas, Ed Wood, The Shootist, Rio Bravo, The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, The original Star Wars Trilogy, Field of Dreams, American History X, The Matrix (first one only), Gettysburg, Dracula (Bela Legosi version), Angels with Dirty Faces, Casablanca, Braveheart

Favorite Actors: Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino, Robert Duvall, John Wayne, Sam Elliot, Ed Norton, Robert Mitchum, James Cagney, Kevin Spacey, Gene Hackman

Other Hobbies/Interests: Writing, history, chess, fantasy football, cooking, drama
Hendrix is on my list. Cream I considered covered by my mention of Clapton. Iron Butterfly is a notch or two below the others in my book. I never really liked the Sex Pistols. I've tried, I really have. Kiss I do enjoy a lot. Their music is simple but it still rocks and I've jammed to many a great Kiss song. But they're just not on my list of absolute favorites.

Other bands that I enjoy but didn't make the above list: The Doors, Kiss, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Megadeth, Godsmack, Disturbed, anything associated with Chris Cornell, AC/DC, Pantera, Queensryche, U2, REM, The Rolling Stones, Kid Rock, Eminem, Motley Crew, Areosmith (pre ballad obsessed, pop sellout days), The Smashing Pumpkins, Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Pink Floyd, and I'm sure there are others that are slipping my mind at this late hour.

Hard Rock/Heavy Metal is easily my favorite genre of music. Though I do look back at early nineties pop/hip hop with a nostalgic grin (C & C Music Factory, Marky Mark, Sir Mix-a-lot, etc.). I used to detest country, but I've discovered an appreciation for Johnny Cash and a few other songs (Devil Went Down to Georgia, The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia, Theme to the Dukes of Hazzard, and Thunder Rolls by Garth Brooks are all more than acceptable country music). However, I'm still not a country fan, and most of it doesn't do a thing for me, especially the pop/country hybrid crap like Shania Twain. I do enjoy the blues, but haven't pursued it as deeply as I'd like. Led Zep's blues influence in their early songs got me interested. I do appreciated Robert Johnson's musical genius. In fact, if anyone could recommend a few other blues musicians or songs to look up, I'd appreciate it.

Rap I generally hate, but I like Kid Rock for his amusing persona and rock edge. Eminem is another rapper I do like. While some of his songs are quite offensive/repelling, there is a clear sense that he is simply messing with the people trying to muzzle him and pushing their buttons, only they don't pick up on it. He also has an interesting take on society that comes out in his songs, a lot of it is satire that people just don't get. The other thing I recognize is he strings his lyrics together like no one else does. There is just such a unique and amazing feel to the way his words flow. I don't know enough about music to explain it any better, but its talent.

On Bob Dylan, he's a great song writer and lyricist, no doubt. I've heard his songs performed by other artists (All Along the Watchtower, Knocking on Heaven's Door, and a few others that I can't think of right now) and loved them, but musically his voice is just awful to me. I can't listen to incomprehensible nasal whine.
Grand Funk Railroad, Moody Blues, Allman Bros, Genesis, Queen and The Animals are all familiar to me, and I enjoy their music. And I do love classic Jethro Tull!

The Kinks are a name I know, but I'm not familiar with their music. Hank Williams Sr. is in the same boat, I'll give him a listen. Any songs in particular you could recommend?

New Wave - Can't say I've heard enough to really pass judgment. I've heard a lot of different musical styles given this label, so I'm not even entirely sure what you mean.
Gospel - While I'm not an avid fan, I do appreciate it.
Punk - I'm not terribly up on my punk either, but what I've heard is generally pretty good. But what I've heard is usually considered mainstream punk, the more hardcore stuff doesn't do it for me.
Jazz - My brother tried to turn me on to jazz, but it didn't take.
Latin - Not really my thing
Classic Rock - Right up my alley.
Light Rock - A lot of light rock or pop rock is too manufactured for my tastes, but some of it is quite good.
R&B (Soul Music) - Depends on the artists and song, but I do like some of it. Not an avid fan though. The older Motown stuff rates higher than most of the modern R&B for me.
Easy Listening - Zzzzzzz. Sorry I dozed off there, it happens when I think about easy listening
New Age - Like New Wave, I've heard a lot of stuff called this genre that doesn't seem to fit together. Generally what I've heard hasn't been my style.
Reggae - I like what little crossover I've heard from Reggae to rock (Dyer Maker by Led Zep and Clapton's cover of I Shot the Sheriff come to mind, along with Dispatch's Open up). But I think its the kind of music I'd prefer in small doses.
Broadway - First off, I find musicals to be ridiculous and silly for the most part. However, I will say the songs are generally catchy, even if they can be a bit annoying. However, some are enjoyable.
Big Bands - If you mean swing music here, then yes I enjoy that a lot. My mom and I signed up for swing lessons, and we were going to bust a move for the mother/son dance at my wedding. Unfortunately, my work schedule caused me to miss all but one of the lessons. The instructor said we "danced too big".
Folk - Some of it is a little grating to me, but on the flip side some of it is very good. Its hit or miss,
Western - I couldn't tell you the difference between Western and Country.
Popular (Sinatra, Bennett, Streisand) - I like a handful on Sinatra songs, but the other two make me look for the nearest rope to hang myself with.
Bill, I'll have to check out "The Soft Parade" before I can respond. I'm not a huge Doors fan, but I do like them. I'll get back to you on this one.

As to your other question, there is hard rock being made today. I personally listen to Godsmack, Disturbed, and Tool (though Tool has been around a bit longer than the other two). There are other bands, but these names are the ones that pop into mind. Of the three, only Tool has the feel of a band that will be revered years later.

The decline of Hard Rock mystifies me. Back in my high school days (God I sound old, and today is my birthday) there was a cornucopia of hard rock, under the name of alternative. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, and others led this revival from the poppy hair bands of the eighties. I'll throw in Guns and Roses and Metallica too, they weren't considered "alternative", but they were major musical forces in the early nineties. Yet, only a few years after my high school graduation, the musical winds changed direction again. Softer acts, with folk, ballad, or pop influences became the big thing. The big bands of the Alternative movement all imploded. Cobain died. STP and Alice in Chains broke up, in large part due to certain members inability to handle their addictions. Soundgarden split up too. Pearl Jam went out of their way to sabotage their mainstream careers. Guns and Roses broke up over Axel Rose's massive ego.

A lot of newer hard rock acts have some rap roots - Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, etc. This crossover stuff isn't bad to me, but none of it has the feel of something truly great or influential.

As to most important era, I'd say there are two. The early nineties alternative revolution and the late 60's/early70's. The Doors, Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Cream, Iron Butterfly, Kiss, AC/DC were all making music during this time.

Personally, I think its the music industry itself that is making great metal/hard rock virtually extinct. Alternative was a people's revolution in music. The studios were still pushing Winger and Warrant when all of a sudden this new edgy music blazed onto the scene. (Not saying it came out of nowhere, but it finally broke through). The studios got a hold of the alternative craze and began marketing it, and also watering it down. What we saw was the putrid pap that makes up most of the late nineties. The new metal, while I like it and can bang my head to it, somehow feels prepackaged to me. Its almost like the studio execs realize metal fans won't go away, so they throw a bone to the demographic while they create the next Britney Spears, Spice Girls, or Backstreet Boys in their laboratories .... er studios.

I know some of this sounds bitter/conspiracy theorist, but metal/hard rock is almost by definition not mainstream music. Its edgy, confrontational, and often deals with topics that most people would prefer not to discuss.
Interesting theory, Bill, but I'm not sure I buy it. How do you account for the second wave of exciting, revolutionary bands of the early 90's? DJ's had long ago taken over the dance club scene.

Plus, I can recall a few specials I watched on Metallica, G&R, and Motley Crue. They all talked about playing in clubs in their early days. Metallica recruited two of their founding members because they heard them at a club (Kirk Hammett and Cliff Burton). I know here in Chicago there are plenty of places you can hear bands in a club like setting or smaller, more intimate theaters. It tends to be a mix of up and comers and washed up acts.
Nod: Of the bands you named, only Tool and Audioslave seem likely to become great bands on the level of a Zeppelin or a Nirvana in my eyes. I like Korn and Staind, but they have a prepackaged feel to them to me. In baseball terms, Zeppelin and Nirvana are Cobb and Mays - all time greats, Tool and Audioslave are Rodriguez and Puljos - young guys with a chance to remembered among the greatest, and Staind and Korn are Alou or Tim Salmon, nice guys to have around, but definitely not legendary.

Deftones never did much for me, and I'm not familiar with Slipknot enough to pass judgment on them one way or another. I'm curious what your thoughts are on a few other current hard rock acts, namely Disturbed and Godsmack, both whom I enjoy, but somehow lack a sense of being great.

It could be that in my increasing old age, I'm entering the dreaded "nothing could be as good as the music I grew up with" stage of life.
Very true, Bill. I've heard things called hard rock or even heavy metal and I've thought, that's not very hard and it certainly isn't metal. For example, I've often heard Led Zep called a metal band, but when I grew up metal was Ozzy, Metallica, etc. Zep doesn't sound quite that heavy by comparison. I always classified them as hard rock (also classic rock, since I consider classic rock to be anything still listenable ten years after it was released).

I'd never consider The Beatles to be a hard rock act. Cream, I can see it a little, but they still sound/feel classic to me. Smoke on the Water is still hard enough to be hard rock in my book. And Rod Stewart and hard rock together, that makes me chuckle - which just goes to show how the meaning of these terms has shifted over the years.
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07-31-2005, 10:34 AM
Bill suggested I look this one up, so I'll post some details about me here. First of all, you can look up this page, which not only details what I have written on Japanese baseball, but also has some info on me in that context I won't repeat here. http://baseballguru.com/jalbright/

I'm a lifelong sports fan and held a season ticket to my beloved Eagles football team from the horrid 1968 (2-12 or something like it, but half a game too good to get to draft OJ Simpson) season through the years at the Vet. Went down with my dad, missing only 10 games in all that time. Three were due to law school finals, two to family weddings, one for going to Oklahoma to pick up the baby boy we were adopting, one early Monday night game my dad wouldn't let me go to because I was too young (the one Howard Cosell left at half because he got sick after imbibing too much to stay warm), and a couple due to ice storms. When they went to the new stadium, we were faced with having to pony up $1700 for the right to buy tickets--and I didn't have that little boy yet. My dad is approaching retirement and couldn't see doing that, and I wasn't up for buying two seats for the possibility I'd have a kid who'd like to use them some day.

We followed all the other Philly teams as well, but in truth Bill James is my biggest connection to baseball. He came on the scene just as the Phils started to sink into mediocrity and worse. What I learned from James about the game and sports in general is very much a part of my approach to baseball in particular and sports in general.

I graduated law school and practiced as a litigator for over 15 years, but while the work was interesting, I was very much put off by the idea in the profession that one had to work at least 60 hours a week to have a chance to get ahead (and one's chances rise if one works even more). I tried to start up my own practice to do things my way, but couldn't get enough paying clients to make it work.

I found out about my son the day he was born, and two days later his birthmother handed him to my wife in Tulsa, OK. Spent almost two weeks in a residence hotel in Tulsa for the paperwork to allow us to take him home to PA to go through. He's almost 4 now, and he's the light of my life, though like any kid, he drives me nuts at times. I wanted to be there as he grows, instead of toiling in an office, so I've elected to go back to school to get a teaching certificate in social studies/history, a topic which has long been a favorite of mine.

I love good movies, whether they be comedies or dramas, but I haven't seen one that isn't kid oriented outside my house since around the time of Saving Private Ryan. Musically, I'm into the classic rock of the sixties and seventies and jazz, especially swing.
Thanks--if you know much about the process of adopting an infant in the states, you've got to want to be a parent--and have the means to do it. It's expensive, time-consuming and involves more paperwork than even I as a former lawyer care to remember. I'd do it all again, without a doubt--but if I was going to put myself through all that just to become a parent, it made no sense whatsoever to me to turn around and not be around to be a dad. Furthermore, this kid was available precisely because his birthfather was (by choice) not going to be around to fill the role. I love my wife, and she's a good mother, but if I wasn't going to do much more than the birthfather except financially, how much better off would he really be away from his birthmother? After all, she wanted this child to have a father. I'd rather be a good father and a good person than a good lawyer. Maybe some folks can manage all three, and more power to them. I didn't feel I could--and that made it an easy choice. And when I hear a shout of "Daddy" when I see him at home and he runs up to me with that huge smile just to give me a hug, I know I did the right thing.
I'm already being amply rewarded, though of course I hope it continues. Certainly, though, it's hard to get much out of a relationship unless you continue to put some effort into it. I'll try to remember to keep up my end of the bargain. What he does is ultimately up to him, though we have every intention of teaching him well. Like any parent, I'll take my chances on that one. Take care.
My kid:

He's four--and already almost as stubborn as me (emphasis on almost). He's 75th percentile height and weight and always has been. Our joke is that we're raising a defensive tackle. He does whatever he's going to do all out. It sure keeps us busy. Like all kids, he drives us nuts on a regular basis. It's easy to forget that, though, when you see his ear to ear smile. And when he comes home with an excited "Daddy!" and a big hug--well, you've gotta love him. And I do, with everything I've got.

my wife:

Met her when we were both in our thirties, so both of us had well-developed habits that still sometimes get in the way after 11 1/2 years together. She's a hard worker, a good mother, a perfectionist (but usually only she's got to be perfect--but she's as human as the rest of us, so she beats herself up over it a lot), and too darn nice for her own good. I like to be nice to people, but not let them walk all over me. I've tried to get her to follow suit, with some success, but old habits die hard. She's a great cook, always experimenting with new recipes. She's an OR nurse, and rose to Lt. Col in the Army's nursing corps (mostly in the Reserves) before she retired from the service.

my dad:

A true sports nut, and he passed that on to me. We went to Philly Eagles' games for 35 years on season tickets, and I missed only 10 games in all that time--three for law school finals, three to sleet/freezing rain on games on TV (why risk your neck driving in that?), two to family weddings, one to adopting my son and one Monday night game when I was just starting out and my dad deemed me too young. He's an accountant and has been exceptionally active in his church, presiding over its board and/or as its treasurer for much of my life. He also was on the local school board for over a decade. Competitive in the extreme, a debater, well informed on current events. A great role model in many ways, and I hope I've emulated the best of him.

my mom:

Quieter than my dad, but every bit as "persistent" in her terminology as my dad. She's worked as a secretary all her adult life, but in today's world with student loans, she'd have made a great college student. Who knows where she would have gone? She passed along a love of reading to my sister and I. A lot like her mother, and she'd regard that as the highest of compliments, and I mean it that way. Mom's only real flaw is that old too nice for her own good bit. She's learned over the years, the hard way, but she's gotten better at it. You might not realize it at first, but she's a real tough cookie when she has to be. I think most people would think my dad's tougher, and he's no slouch--but the quieter of the two is the one with more steel in her spine when the chips are down. She loves being a grandma, to both my son and nephew. I hope I've taken some of her best qualities as my own as well.

Both my folks are still working and healthy. Hope they have many healthy years to go.
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Jim Albright

08-06-2005, 02:56 PM
Name: Pete
Age: Almost 14

Until May of last year, I lived in LA. I then moved to Norway, because my mom is Norwegian. But now I've moved to Maryland.

I have been a Dodger fan since I was 2, when my dad first took me to a game. For the past three years, I have been obsessed with baseball history, doing an 100 page report on it for school last year.

I like rock, and I can't stand rap, it is not even music.

08-21-2005, 03:24 PM
MojoRisin' 71: Some people call me Mojo, Jim, or just plain "Mr. Mojo"

Birthday: June 24

Born in: El Salvador until age 4, then I moved to Ventura, CA, and now I spend most of my time in Oxnard, CA

Education: The usual: high school and college, and am now a prospective chemist, hopefully at UCSD in the spring.

How I got into baseball: I always liked to read as a kid, so I picked up the newspaper every morning and read just about everything, but there were two things I didn't understand at age 5: the stock market and baseball box scores. I didn't learn the stock market until age 15, but baseball came easily to me. First baseball game I saw on TV was A's-Angels, and I always thought it was interesting to see 9 guys on a diamond trying to hit a small projectile coming at them at approximately 90 mph. And I was hooked after that. I also followed other sports, namely soccer (football), basketball, football, and occasionally hockey, but nothing beats baseball. I grew up as one of the few kids who knew some baseball.

Favorite ballplayers: Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale, Jackie Robinson, Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, Willie Mays (even though he was a Giant), Denton Young, Cool Papa Bell, Josh Gibson, Bob Gibson, Carl Furillo, Fernando Valenzuela, Steve Garvey, and anyone who currently plays for the LA Dodgers.

Favorite teams: LA Dodgers, Oakland A's. I'm a firm believer in the "no man can serve two teams in the same league" philosophy. And 1988 was payback for the embarrassing 1974 Series anyway.

First baseball game: Braves at Dodger Stadium, where I got my first exposure to the Tomahawk Chop.

Hobbies: writing, reading, jogging, playing guitar, and just taking an occasional Sunday drive around my vicinity.

Crazy fact about me: I'm fluent in French and English (Spanish was my first language)


Favorite movies: The Godfather (first two), Ben Hur, The Sting, Vertigo, Psycho, The Birds, Apocalypse Now, Star Wars (the "first" three), Death Wish (the first three), Rain Man, The Silence of the Lambs, Un Chien Andalou, and all James Bond movies.

Favorite Rock Bands: Anything from 1967-1975. If I started to list what I like, I'd clog up this thread. Includes, but not limited to: The Doors, The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Santana, all Eric Clapton bands, The Who, Black Sabbath, The Eagles, Queen, Jimi Hendrix, War, etc.

Favorite Rock CD's: Includes, but not limited to: LA Woman, Morrison Hotel, Abbey Road, The White Album, Paranoid, I, II, III, IV, Physical Graffitti, Foxtrot, Who's Next, Tommy, Wheels of Fire, Disraeli Gears, All Things Must Pass, Chicago Transit Authority, Electric Ladyland, Are You Experienced?, Abraxas, Santana, Santana III, Dark Side of the Moon, Animals, Wish You Were Here, The Wall, Meddle, etc.

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: The Beatles 1967-1970, Symptom of the Universe, Early and Latter Days, The Cream of Clapton, Best of Santana, Echoes: The Best of Pink Floyd. It's kinda hard to compile them, so that's why I burn them myself.

Music I Don't Care For: Country/Western, most 80s stuff, and whatever is the artiste du jour on MTV. I try to keep an open mind in music, but I just can't seem to appreciate these genres (especially the latter)

Classical Music: Some Beethoven, Brahms, Mozart, Bach (the Hendrix of the harpsichord, or is Hendrix the Bach of guitar?), Mahler, Schoenberg, Schumann, etc.

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jackie Robinson, Jim Thorpe, Muhammad Ali, Jesse Owens, Mack Robinson, Paavo Nurmi, Abebe Bikila, Mark Spitz, George Blanda, Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Ty Cobb, Lou Brock, Rickey Henderson

Favorite Basketball Players: Oscar Robertson, George Mikan, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Bob Cousy, John Stockton

Favorite Football Runners: Gale Sayers, Walter Payton, Emmett Smith, Jim Brown, Franco Harris.

Favorite Movie Directors: Alfred Hitchcock, Francis Ford Coppola, William Wyler, Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, Oliver Stone

Favorite Actors: Marlon Brando, John Wayne, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, John Cazale, James Stewart, James Dean, Humphrey Bogart, Richard Burton, Yul Brynner, Charlton Heston, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Robert Duvall, Gregory Peck, Tom Hanks, Jude Law, Denzel Washington, Laurence Fishburne, Samuel L. Jackson, Sean Connery, Roger Moore, Ben Stiller

Favorite Actresses: Elizabeth Taylor, Ingrid Bergman, Kim Novak, Lauren Bacall, Audrey Hepburn, Katherine Hepburn, Julia Roberts, Diane Lane, Nicole Kidman, Drew Barrymore, Pam Grier, Lucy Liu

Favorite Books:
The Bible
Catch-22, Joseph Heller
Huckleberry Finn, Mark Twain
Macbeth, William Shakespeare
Of Mice and Men, John Steinbeck
The Old Man and the Sea, Ernest Hemingway
Metamorphosis, Franz Kafka
The Gulag Archipelago, Alexander Solzhenitsyn
100 Years of Solitude, Gabriel Garcia Marquez
The Godfather, Mario Puzo
Night, Elie Wiesel
The 48 Laws of Power, Robert Greene

Favorite Sports Books:
The ESPN Encyclopedia (that's all I need)

Favorite Rock Geniuses: Jimi Hendrix, Lennon/McCartney, Jagger/Richards, Plant/Page, Waters/Gilmour, Brian Wilson, Phillips/Dougherty, John Fogerty, Duane Allman and Dicky Betts, Tony Iommi, CSNY, etc.

Favorite Rock Voices: Freddie Mercury, David Bowie, Robert Plant, Ozzy Osbourne, Edwin Starr, Marvin Gaye, Eric Burdon, John Fogerty, Gregg Rolie, Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross, Tammi Terrell, Chrissie Hynde, Debbie Harry.

Men I admire Most: Again, If I started to list them, I'd never finish, so here is an abridged list:

Jesus, Aristotle, Socrates, Plato, Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo Buonarotti, Miguel Cervantes de Saavedra, Thomas More, Joan of Arc, Talleyrand, Emile Zola, Raoul Wallenberg, Voltaire, Pope John Paul II, etc.

My Most Admired Americans:

Martin Luther King, Jr., Ralph Abernathy, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, etc

Technically Best-Made Movies: Lord of the Rings trilogy, the first Star Wars trilogy, the Matrix, Alien, Rosemary's Baby, The Birds, Vertigo

Favorite Rock Tunes: As of today:
Machine Gun, Hendrix
Can't Find My Way Home, Blind Faith
Fearless, Pink Floyd
Free Four, Pink Floyd
Dear Prudence, The Beatles
I Want You (She's So Heavy), The Beatles
Light My Fire, The Doors
You Just Don't Care, Santana
Toussaint L'Overture, Santana
How Many More Times, Led Zeppelin
The Rain Song, Led Zeppelin
Hush, Deep Purple
East-West, Paul Butterfield Blues Band
I'm A Man, Chicago

Pet peeves: Anyone who has had the opportunity to an education, but willfully throws it away. I've seen a lot of people who have had their share of personal problems that impedes them from fully achieving their goals, but if you absolutely refuse to learn, then you've got another thing coming. I also hate people who drive 45 in the fast lane, and I hate people who drive and talk on their cell phones simultaneously. Take away these groups of people, and you have solved the LA traffic problem.

That's about it. Those who are close to me know that I'm not one to talk too much about myself, and to sum up something my father used to say: "the more you talk, the less you live." Which is why I prefer to be concise and brief, just like my posts here at BBF (even though this one is an anomaly)
Jim will do just fine. For the record, I was born in 1980.

08-22-2005, 01:43 AM
My name is Rik (that would be the R in rbrittain56) and I was was born August 3, 1956 in Enid, Oklahoma. The family moved to Robstown, Texas when I was 4 and my primary education came courtesy of the Robstown Independant School District. My high school produced the NFL's Marvin and Eugene Upshaw.
As a youngster I had five great passions: reading, drawing, building models of WWII warbirds, birdwatching (which I got into at the age of 8) and baseball.
Neither of my parents were much on baseball, so I came to baseball largely through my grandmother. When we would visit my grandparents in Oklahoma in the summers, I would listen to the St. Louis Cardinals and Harry Carey with my grandmother on the radio. A still fond memory. Used to rush home from to try and catch the end of the World Series games when they used to play all day games. My brother (who is also a birdwatcher and baseball fan) became a lifelong Boston Red Sox fan in 1967. A really good natural athlete, he even learned to hit left-handed so he could emulate Yaz. I rarely watch baseball these days, 1994 really soured me on the game I love.
A through and through lefty, my overly protective (but loving) mom would not allow me to play Little League ball (no matter how much I whined) although I was allowed to try out for the high school ball, but never made the team and my senior year I dislocated my left shoulder which ended that little "dream". Played softball for 20+ years and even a couple of years of over 40 baseball, the sum of my personal, organized athletic "career".
In my adult life , I have lived in Houston, Corpus Christi, Biloxi, MS, San Antonio, Sierra Vista, AZ, Houston (again), Dallas, Indianapolis, Loganville, GA before moving back to the area I grew up in (currently reside in Mathis, TX).
My baseball loyalties lie with the Houston Astros and I enjoy the occasional football game (Dallas Cowboys) but have never really cared for basketball.
Favorite Books: all my field guides (birds, mammals, reptiles, butterflies, wildflowers), anything by Jim Hightower, Howard Zinn, or Molly Ivins, Killing Hope by William Blum, the Project Censored books, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig.
Favorite Baseball books: Lords of the Realm by John Helyar, Image of Their Greatness by Lawrence Ritter, Historical Baseball Abstract by Bill James, Shoeless Joe by W.P. Kinsella.
Favorite movies: The Searchers, Field of Dreams, The Quiet Man, Pulp Fiction, El Mariachi (and the American remake Desperado), Oh Brother Where Art Thou, Airplane, Singing in the Rain, Chicago, 61*, JFK oh hell there are too many to list.
Music: Enjoy music from all genres (have even heard a couple of rap songs I enjoyed). Classical (Mozart, Tchaikovsky and Wagner my favorite composers), Country (old school Hank Williams, George Jones, Hoyt Axton Emmylou Harris). 50s rock (Elvis okay but Orbison better), 60s Motown, Rock, some heavy metal, reggae, etc. Two favorite groups are Dire Straits and Steely Dan. Can't bring myself to disparage any particular genre or today's music because everytime I think I can generalize about such things, something comes along to prove me wrong.
Favorite ballplayers: only guys I have actually seen listed here be it on TV or in person. Bob Gibson, Carl Yastrzemski, Tom Seaver, Nolan Ryan, Bob Watson, Jose Cruz, Norm Cash, Luis Tiant, Bobby Bonds, Joe Morgan, Doug Rader, Carlton Fisk, Willie Mays, Phil Garner, Art Howe, Joe Niekro, Enos Cabell, Craig Biggio, Sonny Siebert, Rick Wise, Chris Short, Ron Hansen, Hoyt Wilhelm, Oralndo Cepeda, Willie Aikens, Daddy Wags, Gene Tenace just to name a few.
First baseball game: May 1971 or 1972 Astrodome, Reds vs Astros, Johnny Bench hit 2 home runs one an inside-the-parker.
Been a member of this forum for quite awhile but am not a prolific poster ( I write poorly) but surprised I had not seen this posting before. Good to "meet" y'all.

08-25-2005, 10:07 PM
:waving My turn, seeing as I plan on sticking around this board for a while!

Let's see...

My name is Ann.
Never ask a woman how old she is, especially if you think she may be over 35! ;)

Live on the Canadian prairies.
Work as an OSHA officer.

Lived in many different cities across this country over the years. Rarely stayed in one place for more than 3 years. Dad worked heavy construction...had to go where the jobs were. Mom stayed home and raised us brats the best she could. Who would have thought three daughters could be so much grief. I love them both dearly. I don't see much of them as they live in Ontario.

I have a huband (#2), one daughter, a dog and too many tropical fish to count!

Worked as a heavy equipment operator building roads to put myself through college and again through university. Worked as a Safety Professional in the industrial sector and as a Registered Nurse prior to my current career.

I have a diploma in Health and Safety, a BSc in Nursing, currently working on a Masters in Industrial Hygiene. Yes, it is a strange combination, but that is a story for later.

Other hobbies: watching my daughter on the diamond playing soft(skirt)ball, watching baseball (preferably from the stands-I have been known to drive 3 hours one-way to watch ball), building model cars, fixing the real ones, watching cart (old 'Indy') racing, camping, raising tropical fish, playing with my big stupid lovable dog.

On to the baseball stuff.

I am a certified baseball coach. I coached ball for several years, T-ball to PeeWee (ages 10-13).

I am a certified baseball umpire, one of approximately 10 female umpires in the province. I have umpired seriously for the past 4 years. Everything from Little League to Masters, mostly all-male teams. I average 100 games a season, half of these behind the plate.

I love to be on the diamond! Gives a whole new dimension to the game...and a greater appreciation for all involved. For the most part, I laugh (internally) at the hecklers, and most of the hot-headed coaches/players. After all, I am not the one booting the ball around the infield, missing catches, swinging at obvious 'balls'. Like everything else in my life...I call 'em as I see 'em.

I don't have a favorite player, coach, or team. I don't usually keep track of stats - unless it is our local Western Major League team.

I will be attending clinic in the spring to become an Umpire Course Conductor (Trainer). Hoping for a National assignment in the 2006 season. My goal is an International assignment before I reach 40!

Both my husband and the youngest of our daughters umpire baseball.
Needless to say, there is a lot of baseball talk in our house. We are all baseball nuts. My daughter begged an pleaded to missed the first 2 weeks of grade 6 to stay in Toronto to watch a game at the SkyDome. I think she was cheering for the Yankees! (yes, I caved in!).

I look forward to some interesting, challenging exchanges on this board.

Yes, I tend to be a bit of a poo-disturber! :D But that can make life interesting, especially when you challenge people to think about what they are thinking! I love a challenge.

Yours in baseball,
Ann continues her wonderful saga (August 26, 2005; 05:38 AM):

Hi Bill

What the heck are you thinking . We play and love baseball up here in the frozen North

Saskatchewan is the ball capital of the prairies!! We have 3 diamonds in my small (approx population of 35K) town that are going almost every night from late April to late August, not to mention all the Little League diamonds. Not a summer weekend goes by without a tournament...I love it.

Yes, there is such an animal as the "female umpire". We have quite a few serious umpires across the country. By serious I mean that they are working towards or have worked National and International tournaments. I am currently heading up the development of a program to encourage, develop, retain female umpires in the province. The 'old boys school' is starting to crumble.

No we are not a "one sport" family. My daughter is heavily into competitive Judo, myself for recreation and training in the "off season". As a family, we watch basketball, Canadian football (whati is with the extra down and sissy fields anyways?), Cart (Indy) and formula 1 and, yes, hockey with varying degrees of enthusiasm. My daughter takes great interst in the larger sporting events (olympics, worlds) regardless of the sport, however, she has developed a disliking for gymnastics and skating.

The whole hockey thing has left a bad taste in my mouth again. How is it that people with god-given talent, doing the thing they love be so greedy. If only I could get that kind of money.........
August 26, 2005, 05:52 AM
No offence taken, Bill.

There is a thread regarding women players in the majors. Had a good chuckle at some of the comments.

You are right though. There is still discrimination against us women in sports, similar to that against other races, religions, sexual orieintation.

You all need to sit back, relax, keep your arms and legs inside the cab at all times and enjoy the ride!

Some times it helps to read a post a couple of times before getting upset/angry or comming down with a case of "political correct-ness".

It is truely unfortunate that tone of voice and body expressions can not be adequately portrayed when posting.

Thought you had "freedom of speach"?!?

Carry on, Bill

08-25-2005, 11:50 PM
Name: Rich

Age: 18

Home: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, born and raised.

Schooling: University of Pennsylvania, no major yet.

Employment: Unemployed.

Hobbies: Poker, Music, Sports.

Favorite Movies: Any mob movie, anything by Stanley Kubrick,

Favorite Actors: Ed Norton, Robert DeNiro

Favorite Director: Stanley Kubrick

Favorite Bands: Radiohead, Tool, Nine Inch Nails, The Mars Volta, Pink Floyd, The Cure, the Doors, and a lot more.

Favorite Athletes: Don't really have any favorites, but when I younger I was big on Ken Griffey.

Southlake CubsFan
08-26-2005, 12:14 AM
Name : Trevor
Age: 15, almost 16
School: Southlake Carroll Dragons (highschool)
Interests: watching dragon football games (its basically the thing to do in southlake, im sure some of you know), im a dragon band nerd, also play soccer

ahh what else......
basically you can tell what team i like by my sig

i hope to go to Illinois for college, i lived there for 13 years, hence why i like all illinois teams, i live in texas currently...ahh thats all i can think of
hating on illinois? come on man, the best combo out there... Illinois,Bears,Cubs...great combo there! i must say i do respect purdue though, heck of a program...kyle orton, he may come in handy this here for the bears

09-04-2005, 12:56 AM
Simon Foster
November 23, 1971, Melbourne (or close enough!), Australia
Have lived in Australia, the UK, and the USA

Finished school 1989

Graduated BA (Double-major in History, minor in Politics, incl Middle Eastern & Soviet) 1992

Qualified as a law clerk/paralegal 2004 (GPA was around 3.25). Virtually no jobs though for an over-30 law clerk just starting out …

SF Giants (wish they would become the NY Giants again – then maybe Mrs. McGraw’s curse could be lifted)

How I came to follow Baseball:
I came by my BB passion all by myself. No baseball teams exist around here, (I think the nearest is about 20 miles away, and I may be too far on the wrong side of 30 to start playing.

Baseball is not exactly the highest-profile sport in this country. If you want to watch any games, you have to subscribe to Foxtel (not exactly cheap!).

However, there is good news. My softball team starts its season next month. The last game I played I made a double play (caught one runner out at RF and threw out the runner coming home), but that was a while back. Also I have got together a slow-pitch softball team for this year’s Australian Corporate Games (19-20 November). We start training soon (haven’t decided on what date, though).

Played most sports on a school or club level, e.g., tennis, football (soccer), softball (House captain at school), squash, athletics (always ran the 200m in a higher-age level than I was at school athletics day), cross-country, etc. I also part-qualified for my UEFA “C” football coaching Badge. Also coached girls’ football when I lived in the UK (1999-2000).

Various jobs, fairly exclusively in Accounts. I have been at my present company (Village Roadshow) since mid-March. At the moment, I ensure that we receive the money that Television stations owe us for showing films that we distribute.

I have also been a tennis umpire since 1994 and have umpired most of the ‘big’ names, e.g., Agassi, Sampras, Williams (both), Hewitt, Henman, etc.

Also spent 2 years (1990-92) in the Army Reserve and 5 years in the Air Force Cadets (1984-89)

Favourite Ballplayers:
Walter Johnson, Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Yogi Berra, Lou Gehrig, Sandy Koufax, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Whitey Ford, Eddie Lopat, Christy Matthewson, Mickey Cochrane. Probably more will come to mind, but that’s it for the moment …

Favourite Movies:
Shadow of the Vampire, Star Wars series (except I, and to a certain extent, II), Hammer Horror series, They Died With Their Boots On, All Quiet on the Western Front, Battle of Britain, Alfie (the original version), Zulu, The Italian Job, The Fighting Sullivans

Favourite Baseball Movies:
The Natural, Field of Dreams, Bull Durham, A League of Their Own, Baseball: A Film by Ken Burns, The Rookie, Eight Men Out

Favourite Rock Bands:
Beatles, Rolling Stones, Kinks, Who, Madness, Buddy Holly & The Crickets, Hank Williams, Eddie Cochran, Muddy Waters, Stevie Wonder, Motown

Favourite Rock CDs:
Too many to list. Pretty much refer to above list as a guide

Call This Music???:
Hard Rock (depends, though – you can rock AND still sound good – just listen to some of George Harrison’s guitar solos), Heavy/Death Metal, Rap, House/Techno/Modern “R&B”

Music That Doesn't Make Me Want To Do Evil to Others:
Classical (mostly the well-known stuff – NOT the modern stuff), Country AND Western, Blues, 50s-80s, Big Bands (includes Sinatra Martin and Glenn Miller), Andy Williams, Carla Bruni

Favourite Books::
The Oxford History of the Classical World
Anything by Arthur Hailey, e.g., Airport, Hotel, in High Places
The Dilbert series
Gone With the Wind
Cheshire Fifoot and Furmston’s Law of Contract
I really don’t get that much time to read, unfortunately

Favourite Baseball Books:
My Life in Baseball - the True Record, Ty Cobb
Baseball’s Golden Age. The Photographs of Charles M. Conlon
The Mick
Iron Horse
Ten Rings
Men at Work
Joe di Maggio. The Hero’s Life
The Head Game
The National League Story
Summer of 49

Family’s Military Service:
My father was drafted to go to VietNam (discharged the day before Tet in 68). Altogether, approx 8 of my family have seen armed conflict (WWI, WW2, VietNam). A couple of others have served, but not gone overseas.
lol. I've called lines for him (4th Round Aus Open 2005). Done most of the big names who play at the moment (come to think of it, I've called lines for all the present top 10 ATP & WTA, except for Nadal (men) & Clijsters (women)).

Branch Rickey's great nephew is a linesman/central umpire. Saw him on TV at the US Open Men's Semi-Final & (I think) Final.

09-04-2005, 10:53 AM
Edited look on page 8

09-05-2005, 02:10 AM
Zach Jendro
1977 in Fargo, ND, now live in the Cincinnati area

The Twins. Ups and downs, gutters and strikes...

How I came to follow Baseball:
The 1991 World Series. I taught myself to keep score and I haven't looked back. As far as I am concerned, that Series will live down as the best. Kirby Puckett, Game 6. Jack Morris, Game 7. Sends shivvers up my spine.

Favourite Ballplayers:
Man there are too many to count. Number one is Honus Wagner, possibly the finest five tool player to play the game. Ed Delahanty, Dan Brouthers, Three Finger Brown, Mathewson. Walter Johnson for his grace and excellence. Guy Hecker, Hugh Jennings, John McGraw.

Favourite Baseball Movies:
Eight Men Out, Ken Burns' Baseball, I love vintage archive footage, Field of Dreams

Favourite Rock Bands:
The Band, The Beatles, Mike Nesmith, Roy Wood, The Beach Boys, ELO, Willie Nelson, The Move, Gram Parsons

Favourite Rock CDs:
The Band's "Rock of Ages". Possibly the finest live album ever recorded.

Call This Music???:
Rap and Death/Speed Metal. Yuck.

Right now I am reading a book about Ed Delahanty. If anyone wants to discuss old baseball, I am game!

Thank you for your kind words. Of course I love the old Twins, how could a sane person not? I thought about this post and I forgot one of my all time favorites. Nap Lajoie, how could I forget The Frenchman? Of course Eddie Collins and all those you mentioned, and many Negro Leaguers, especially Biz Mackey. As for The Last Waltz, it is a masterpiece. If anyone wants to hear a fine piece of music check out "I Shall be Released", the grand finale with Bob Dylan from that film. Long live Levon Helm!!!


I've listened to "I Shall Be Released", from The Last Waltz many a time, and love it every time. In 1972, I was a 21 yr. old professional rock dancer, and loved to dance to it while the band played it live. I also want to give a shout out of props to "Up On Cripple Creek", from The Last Waltz. It is much better than the single version. More dynamic, cooler.

And I also definitely need to sing the praises of Down South In New Orleans, from The Last Waltz. Such a classic beautiful piece of music.

Ever check out their single, Rockin' Chair? Such a cool, beautiful song. Almost rusticly rocking in the rocking chair, gazing out at the beautiful, blue sea. That's the image I get listening to this tune. Of course The Weight needs be mentioned. Fantastic taste for remembering a great band which never got the acclaim they deserved. Don't you love the way they start off with Bob Dylan's "When I Paint My Masterpiece"? That's Garth Hudson making that accordian sound like an Italian street fare.

Camilo Pascual used to be one of my favorite pitchers. Best curve in the MLs.

Thank you so much, Zach, for being a Biz Mackey admirer! He's one of my boys.



09-05-2005, 03:18 PM
My contribution to this amazing thread.

Name: Samuel Hwang
Born: 12/02/90 in Albuquerque, NM to my parents Yong and Jung Hwang
Family: Yong, Father; Jung, Mother; David, Brother
Birthmark(s): Blue turqoise circle on my left shoulder, brown smudge-ish spot on my right ankle.
Places I've Lived: Albuquerque, NM, moved to Palo Alto, CA on Valentine's Day 1998. People at my new school soon started calling me Sammy Sosa due to the big story of the year being the great HR chase of Sosa and McGwire.
School: Gunn High

How I became interested in baseball: My dad became a big Cubs fan when he moved to Illinois from South Korea in 1985 (good year for Chicago sports, the Bears dominated the league and won the Super Bowl, Michael Jordan went to the Bulls). Passed on his universal love for sports to me, I loved basketball and football until I moved to California and fell in love with the Giants. I do not go to watch that many baseball games (maybe once every two seasons), but 1/2 of the games I've been to there has been a game winning HR by Barry Bonds. One in 98 or 99 against the Phillies, and the other in the fantastic game against the Diamondbacks (2003) where he threw out Shea Hillenbrand in the top of the ninth, then hit the game-winning HR in the bottom.

Favorite Baseball Players: David Wright, Noah Lowry, Barry Bonds, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Ted Williams, Stan Musial, Mickey Cochrane

Favorite Bands: Unlike a lot of my MTV-generation friends, I prefer old bands a lot more then new stuff, though not all of the 90's-00's music is horrible. Queen (favorite), The Beatles, Ray Charles, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Strokes, Vince Guaraldi, Earth/Wind/Fire, The Eagles, Jack Johnson, George Gershwin, Aerosmith, Phoenix, and the Foo Fighters dominate my playlists.

Favorite Non-Sports Figures: Martin Luther King Jr., Gregory Peck, Freddie Mercury, Will Ferrell, Mr. Peterson (8th grade math teacher), Mr. Hernandez (current Communications teacher), my Mom, Dad, Grandpa, and my brother.

Favorite Sport Besides Baseball: European/South American soccer. A complete joy to watch. My favorite team is Liverpool FC, who recently won one of the most thrilling Champions League finals ever. Favorite players include Steven Gerrard, Dennis Bergkamp, Zinedine Zidane, Peter Schmeichel, and John Terry. Often sneak into the art class at school with my friends at lunch to catch some footy, since games are usually around noon Pacific Time

Favorite Movies: Ocean's Eleven, Anchorman (I probably quote this movie a bit too often), Rocky I, II, III, and IV

09-06-2005, 09:04 AM
Alright, I guess I'll jump in here.
Shane Schirmer
35 years old
Live just outside Cincinnati with my beautiful wife, seven month old daughter, and two rambunctious labs
Born in Wisconsin, raised in Georgia (have lived in 7 states total)
Northern Kentucky University
I sell Satellite and RF equipment to Cable TV companies, broadcast television networks, and Colleges and Universities.
Favorite Band: REM
Favorite Teams: Cubs and Indians
Boyhood hero: Ron Guidry (I'm a lefty)

09-06-2005, 04:44 PM
Name: Jason Nelson
Born: 4/21/1977
Family: Lovely wife Katy and 4 children (GBGG 12-11-6-3)
School: AAS in IT working my way (very slowly) through to my Bachelor's with emphasis on Computer Programming[/B]
Home(s): Kansas City, MO to St. Louis, MO to Minneapolis, MN back to Kansas City to finally Topeka, KS.

How I became interested in baseball: July 24, 1983 George Brett, Goose Gossage, and the Pine Tar homerun. I was still pretty young but to see the raw passion of Brett and just the incredible buzz that followed the game around Kansas City caught me. The next season I started the road towards fanaticism.

Favorite Baseball Players: Tris Speaker, Willie Stargell, George Brett, Hal McRae, Vlad Guerrero, and knuckleball pitchers in general.

Favorite Sport Besides Baseball: It used to be football, but I just don't have the enthusiasm for the sport I once had. I guess I would consider golf my second sport I would rather play or watch.

Favorite Movies: Any old Marx Brothers movie (Animal Crackers and The Coconuts get the nod), a solid war movie (Full Metal Jacket or Apoc Now), or movies with a story to tell that doesn't take itself too seriously (A Clockwork Orange or Clerks).

How I found Baseball-Fever: I lurked about for a long time, but an invite from HonusWagnerRules gave me the motivation to register. I've been waiting for a rebuttal from him on a Hornsby vs Collins debate and I will track him across the Internet until he conceeds. :D

09-13-2005, 08:15 AM
I just spotted this thread. (I don't spend much time over here since they started the hall of fame forum.) Thanks for starting this, Bill. I'll adapt my bio from over at Baseball Think Factory.

I’m 45 and a lifelong Detroit-area resident, growing up on the east side. I work for the Archdiocese of Detroit as a parish auditor. Previous to this, I was a Mr. Mom for about a decade. I’ve been married 17 years and have two boys ages 16 and 13. (My younger son is the sports guy, a natural athlete, unlike his dad.)
I’ve been compiling and puzzling over the hall of fame voting for over 30 years, constantly concocting improvement schemes and lists of who should be in or out. A lot of this is reflected in my articles at BFT in the Visitors Dugout.
I started following sports when I was 8, when Detroit was Tigertown, not Hockeytown. Although baseball has always been nearest to my heart, I’ve enjoyed following all the Detroit-area champs; Tigers 68, 84; Spartans 79, 00; Pistons 89, 90, 04; Wolverines 89, 97; Red Wings 97, 98, 02; Lions? I concluded 25 years ago they were hopeless as long as WC Ford was the owner.
I collected baseball cards for the numbers on the back. (I was pretty miffed in 1971, IIRC, when Topps printed only two stat lines rather than whole careers.) When I finally discovered Who’s Who in Baseball, I was ecstatic. When I got my first MacMillan Encyclopedia for my 17th birthday, I was in heaven. A couple years later I discovered APBA baseball and played in a league for about eight years.
As a college senior in 1982, I discovered the Baseball Abstract. The next year I joined SABR. For a couple years I had a regular featurette, called “Dan Greenia’s Freakshow”, in Bill James’ bimonthly sabermetric journal, The Baseball Analyst. In 1984 I applied for the position of Bill James' assistant, when he was looking to hire his first; I made the first cut, but he eventually hired Jim Baker. I also authored two articles that appeared in Baseball Digest in the late 80’s.
I’ve never had an article published by SABR, mainly due to the attitude of their former publications director. A couple times I pitched hall-of-fame-fix oriented articles to him, but he said they don’t print articles about that because there are too many submitted on the topic. I was reminded of Yogi Berra’s quote about a popular restaurant: “Nobody goes there anymore. It’s too crowded.” I suspect he was actually seeking to avoid controversy, in order to maintain SABR’s chummy relationship with the HOF.
Other part-time jobs I’ve had: phonebook deliveryman, guitar teacher, bookkeeper, symphony usher, reporter, retail cashier, accounting tutor, bank teller and music minister. Although I am a practicing Roman Catholic, my spirituality is greatly influenced by the teachings of G.I. Gurdjieff, aka The Fourth Way.
SABR has never been a social outlet for me. I’ve never been to a SABR convention and will not be making the trip next year.

09-13-2005, 09:18 AM
Favorite ballplayers: Cobb, Barnes, Mack, Pete Alexander, Ron LeFlore…

Favorite movies: Star Wars, Back To The Future, Don’t Look Back, Royal Tenenbaums, Rushmore, Bottle Rocket, Seven Samurai

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: Temptations, Lost Blues and Other Songs, “Yesterday” and Today, Meaty Beaty Big And Bouncy….um, really, if I’m listen to a “greatest hits” it’s because it’s a singles band or the albums (and usually the performer also) are/is really really weak.

Music I Don't Care For: Any thing that calls itself one thing but is really something else, such as pop that calls itself any other name, county, punk, junk

Favorite Actors: Marx Brother, Owen Wilson, Gong Li, but let’s face it, actors are just pawns

Favorite Authors:
Raymond Carver
Ed Sanders
Lawrence Ferlinghetti
Shel Silverstein

09-14-2005, 07:40 PM
Name: Shawn
Location: Round Lake Beach, IL
Birthdate: 11/10/1990

I am a Cubs fan. I like several other teams, but mostly when they dont interfere with the Cubs winning. I love reading. I read about 2 or 3 books a week (99% of which are of the baseball variety). I collect baseball autographs, mostly through the mail, I have over 200 as of 2/16/2010. My favorite players currently would be Aramis Ramirez, Tim Lincecum and Ichiro. All time, my favorites would be Billy Martin (number 1 on list), Joe Jackson and various others, but none who stand out above them. I am a learning fan of the dead ball era. I can hold my own in conversations about the era, but I am quickly learning more and more about it. Probably 50 percent of the books I have read are about that era. I also know quite a bit of pre war Cubs. I have a fascination with non existing teams, such as the Philadelphia Athletics, St. Louis Browns, etc. Although, I do not care much for the 2nd Senators or Expos, probably due to the recentness.

I am engaged to my lovely fiance Gretal, have been for a couple years now. I work at a pizza place called Jimanos, is a small chain in northern Illinois and southern Wisconsin. I love Chicago. I go to the city every few weeks to enjoy it and go to the library, which is far superior to any other library around here. I go to about 15 games a year. I enjoy listening to many kinds of music, mostly rock from the 60s through 80s. I like listening to WGN Radio as well. John Williams is THE best talk show host on the radio. I love Dr. Pepper, drink a 2 liter each day and love each one more than the last. I am not big in politics, but I am a republican, and if I ever were to vote, it would most likely be republican, but I will vote democrat if the dem is better than the rep. I enjoy the outdoors, I do lots of bike riding, try to put in 10 miles a day during the summer. I have never gone on a long distance ride, but plan to eventually. I watch lots of MLB Network, but not too much else outside of that. I watch several sitcoms, like the Simpsons, My Boys, My Name is Earl, but Im not addicted to tv. I used to watch WWE, but its too dramatical now a days. I wannas see wrestling, not half wrestling, half soap opera. I enjoy a good board game occasionally. I have been pretty hooked on Wii lately. I am an expert bowler on it! I plan to get good at real bowling this coming summer by going twice a week and strengthening my arm.

I am a Christian. I love my Lord Jesus. I listen to the Bible for the most part (I still like ACDC!). I pray each night. Church every sunday now that I dont work saturday nights. Although, I believe my religion is the right one, I encourage everyone to have a religion, even if it is not mine, for its better to believe in something than nothing. I do not look at any race or religion as being less than I am. We are all equal. A belief or color does not change who a person is.

That is all for now, I am most certainly up for questions if people have them.


09-15-2005, 09:15 AM
Let me jump in here with both feet.
I'm 64 years old and was born in Hamilton, OH. The family moved to the big city of Eaton, OH when I was very young. By big city, I mean around 3000 people in the soutwest Ohio farming country.
I graduated from Eaton High in 1959 and worked in a factory for several months. Joined the USAF in late 1959 and stayed until 1971. Spent 3 years in Germany and two more at a radar station in northern Japan.
I met my wife while stationed in Texas in 1966. We married in 1967. Although now divorced, we were together for 28 years. We had three children and ended up a military family. My wife was an Army nurse. My oldest daughter spent 6 years active in the Army and four years in the reserves. My youngest daughter is in the Navy and only has 7 years until retirement.
My father was born in 1895 and was sort of a wanderer until he met my mom. At one time, he owned a pool hall and was a professional gambler. After marriage, he settled down. He died of a heart attack in 1960.
Mom was a housewife and she passed in 1992.
After I left the USAF, we settled in Dayton, Oh and I worked in a professional photo lab for many years. The last job I had was a truck driver. I did that for over 9 years and then retired.
As for baseball. I remember always loving baseball. We played pick-up games all the time. No little league back then. I had scrapbooks of players pictures and many baseball cards. Wish I still had the cards but they got lost along the way.
I played high school ball and some semi-pro in Texas in the early 70's. I then played softball until I was 57 and my knees gave out.
My favorite team is the Reds and I like the Cubs and Red Sox also.
I just like sports and watch a lot of games on tv. I can really get into pro football. I did get to Cincinnati once this year for a game and saw several minor league games in Dayton.
There you go. You have my life story. Not very exciting but I enjoy it.

09-25-2005, 08:37 AM
Patrick Hogue
Born: February 12, 1966 West Covina, CA
Have lived in a 40 mile radius my whole life.

Dad: Born Buffalo, NY
Mom (and her mom) born in L.A.

Education: Cal State Fullerton (4 time NCAA Baseball champions) B.S. Finance
Chapman University M.B.A.

Work: Business Systems Analyst for large Mutual Fund company.

Favorite ballplayers: Ed Delahanty, Hugh Jennings, Nap Lajoie, Walter Johnson, Honus Wagner, Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Stan Musial, Roy Campanella, Sandy Koufax, Ernie Banks, Steve Garvey, Tony Gwynn, Kirby Puckett (not so much anymore), Greg Maddux, Vlad Guerrero

Favorite movies: Braveheart, LOTR (all 3 movies), Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Usual Suspects, Goodfellas

Favorite Rock Bands: Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, U2, REM, The Jam, The Clash, Midnight Oil, The Pogues, The Cure

Favorite Rock CD's: Piper at the Gates of Dawn, Wish you Were Here, The Wall, Zeppelin II, IV, Houses of the Holy, London Calling

Classical Music: Purcell, Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, Liszt

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: We could have a whole thread on this but I would go with Jim Thorpe

Favorite Basketball Players: Magic Johnson.

Favorite Football Players: Terry Bradshaw,Franco Harris, Jack Lambert, Joe Greene, Mel Blount, Lynn Swann, Jack Ham, Donnie Shell, Mike Webster, Rod Woodson, etc...

Favorite Movie Directors: Martin S., Stanley Kubrick, Peter Jackson.

Favorite Actors: DeNiro, Pacino, Eastwood, McQueen,
Comedy: Stooges, Belushi, Farley

Favorite Books:
Cosmos - Carl Sagan
Several by Graham Hancock

Favorite Sports Books:

The Glory of Their Times, by Lawrence Stanley Ritter
Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, by Bill James
Where They Aint by Burt Solomon

Favorite Rock Geniuses: John Lennon, Syd Barrett, The Edge

Some hobbies: Playing with my young kids, Running, Hiking/Climbing, Wake Boarding, Poker, Genealogy...oh and Baseball.

Sports: My best sports were soccer and also run cross country and track in HS. Still play hoops with my buddies on Saturday mornings.

That's all for now.
If you're going to call me Pattie, I'll be expecting a cold Guinness from you next March 17th.

I never put up great times, I had knee problems that have seemed to go away as I've aged. I know, it doesn't make sense.

Anyway, I never quite broke 5 in the mile (5:10) which has always been a dissapointment to me. I once ran a 2:18 880, and right around 12:00 in the 2 mile. In cross country I once posted a 16:50 which is faster than my 2 mile pace.

My greater endurance accomplishments have been Mt. Whitney (3 times), as well as other 14,000 ft. peaks, White Mountain and Mt. Langley.

Getting ready to head out to watch some football before watching the Angel game in Anaheim this afternoon. So I'll catch you this evening.
Bill to Patrick:
I was also a runner. I always felt I had 9:40 2-miles potential in me.
When I ran a 4:34 mile, and came back 30 minutes later and won again in 10:16 for 2-miles, I always believed I'd have clocked 9:40 if fresh.
Honus Wagner Rules was also a runner.
"I ran a 2:03 800 m, 4:26 1600m, and a 9:43 3200m. Aslo ran a 35:02 10K. My track times were form 1986 and the 10 K from 1985...
Patrick to Bill, he's very modest.
You guys smoked me! Either of you would have been the top miler at my HS.
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09-26-2005, 10:03 PM
Name: Randy
Age: 28
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 175
Born: Sept. 19th, 1977 in Sunnyside, Washington


Dad and mom still married. Have a brother who is 2 years older than myself.


Babe Ruth tattoo on right shoulder-blade

Places I've Lived

In Portland, Oregon my whole life. I've traveled to Arizona, Washington, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, California, and Mexico. (Soon to be vegas in October, and soon to be Hawthorne, NY asap)


High School and then some college on baseball scholarship

How I became interested in baseball

I've played since tee ball, and still play in a semi-pro league with my brother and some buddies.
I pitched and played shortstop every year up until high school, until the coach moved me to centerfield because of the similar arm motion. I pitched and played center all through high school, and just played center in college. Still play center, although the legs aren't what they used to be.


Ruth, Gehrig, Pujols, DiMaggio, Cobb, Andruw Jones, Rickey Henderson


Tool, Marley, Zeppelin, Floyd, Dylan, Eminem, Bone Thugs, Petty, Jack Johnson


Godfather 1 & 2 (3 blows), Scarface, Goodfellas, Raging Bull, Deer Hunter, Taxi Driver, Carlito's Way, Ronin, Heat, A Bronx Tale, Resevoir Dogs, True Romance, Full Metal Jacket, Tombstone, Seven, Happy Gilmore, Dumb and Dumber, Butterfly Effect

Fav. Baseball Movies

Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, Babe Ruth "The Life Behind the Legend", Eight Men Out, Major League

Fav.Baseball Books

Babe (Robert Creamer), The Science of Hitting, The Life That Ruth Built, Real Grass Real Heroes

Fav. Football players

DeAngelo Hall, LaDanian Tomlinson

Fav. Basketball players

Dominique Wilkins, Tracy McGrady

Fav. Hockey players

Shanahan, Jagr, B. Hull, Yzerman


baseball, poker, drinkin', women, mountain biking, xbox
Bill to Randy:
Seems you bear unlimited love for Martin Scorsese and his favorite guys, Robert DeNiro, Joe Pesci. You have something for NY gangsters/wiseguys? Martin Scorsese is one of the greats.
My favorite Scorsese flicks.

No Direction Home: Bob Dylan - A Martin Scorsese Picture (2005) (TV)
Gangs of New York (2002)
Casino (1995)
The Age of Innocence (1993)
Cape Fear (1991)
The King of Comedy (1983)
Raging Bull (1980)
The Last Waltz (1978)
New York, New York (1977)
Randy to Bill:
I guess you could say I have a thing for those kind of movies; I'm just into Pacino and DeNiro movies really. Just so happens their best ones tend to be a bit violent, lol.

If I HAD to pick 8 movies from each:

DeNiro - Goodfellas, Raging Bull, Heat, Jackie Brown, Taxi Driver, Ronin, Deer Hunter, Casino

Pacino - Godfather 1 and 2, Scarface, Serpico, Carlito's Way, Heat, Sea of Love, The Insider

Scorsese is a freikin' genius, most don't realize he did "The Color of Money." Also, "Bringing out the Dead", which displayed his trademark use of directed lighting, similar to Casino.
Bill to Randy:
Favorite Robert DeNiro movies.

Great Expectations (1998) .... Arthur Lustig
Jackie Brown (1997) .... Louis Gara
Wag the Dog (1997) .... Conrad Brean
Casino (1995) .... Sam 'Ace' Rothstein
A Bronx Tale (1993) .... Lorenzo Anello
This Boy's Life (1993) .... Dwight Hansen
Mad Dog and Glory (1993) .... Wayne 'Mad Dog' Dobie
Cape Fear (1991) .... Max Cady
Awakenings (1990) .... Leonard Lowe
Goodfellas (1990) .... Jimmy Conway
Midnight Run (1988) .... Jack Walsh
Angel Heart (1987) .... Louis Cyphre
Falling in Love (1984) .... Frank Raftis
The King of Comedy (1983) .... Rupert Pupkin
The Deer Hunter (1978) .... Michael Vronsky
New York, New York (1977) .... Jimmy Doyle

My favorite Bobby roles are King of Comedy, Angel Heart, Cape Fear, This Boy's Life.
Favorite Al Pacino flicks:

The Merchant of Venice (2004) .... Shylock
Insomnia (2002) .... Detective Will Dormer
The Insider (1999) .... Lowell Bergman
The Devil's Advocate (1997) .... John Milton
Heat (1995) .... Lt. Vincent Hanna
Scent of a Woman (1992) .... Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade
Frankie and Johnny (1991) .... Johnny
Sea of Love (1989) .... Det. Frank Keller
Cruising (1980) .... Steve Burns
...And Justice for All (1979) .... Arthur Kirkland
Dog Day Afternoon (1975) .... Sonny Wortzik

Scent of A Woman was my all time Pacino masterpiece, but loved Sea of Love too.
Randy's Official Opinions:
This is the best I can do, sorta hard to see.

Plan on getting it re-touched, its fading a bit.

09-27-2005, 09:35 PM
Alright it took me long enough

Name: Derek Ambrosino
Age: 25
Location: Queens NYC, Jackson Heights to be exact
Occupation: work for (gulp) MLB.

First let me say that I am very impressed with the clarity, maturity and knowledge many of the younger users represent themselves. I was shocked to learn how many of these articulate and thoughtful posters were several years my junior.

Anyway, let me run through some things quickly. I've been interested in baseball my entire life and I've been argumentative since the womb. So naturally, I responded to my father's Yankee fanatisicsm by becoming a rabid Met fan. He passed away a few months before the Subway Series in 2000. When I was 6 I got a videotape called the "1986 Mets, A Year To Remember" and memorized it verbatim within a month.

Currently, I live with my girlfirend who is as addicted to the Mets as I am. We go to as many games as we can, especially b/c we have passes that let us in for free (MLB employees). Oh and guys, she has a Mets logo tatooed on a part of her body that would be unrecognizably pixelated if shown on television...lucky me!

Throughout my academic career I excelled, but by the time high school came around I was more interested in "extracuricular activites" I didn't play on the team senior year b/c I woke up to hungover to remember to bring my glove to tryouts. I would goof around but then ace the big test and I felt that was okay. By senior year I had practically dropped out of high school, but I figured I'd ace the SATs and be fine. Well half the plan worked, I scored in the upper 1400's but combined with my average in the low 70's, the composite was a smart guy who didn't care. This attitude continued through the beginning of college. I dropped out and even had some incidents with the law.

At some point I just decided I wanted to be a different person. I re-applied and plowed through school. I completed my undergraduate studies and then went to grad school. I finished my MA in one calendar year with a 4.0. Unfortunately, I am a political radical who detests corporate America so the paper won't translate into big money. That's fine with me though.

I plan to complete a PHD and want to teach sociology through the lens of sports.

I am a student of urban culture, I love the good old hip-hop and wish the trains were still graffiti covered. Disney destroyed 42nd Street. I miss the NYC of the eighties, soccer moms from the suburbs are supposed to be scared here!

Some random stuff:

Other team affiliations: NY Knicks, NY Giants

Favorite reading material: The Onion

People I admire (all over the place here) GEORGE CARLIN, Karl Marx, Michael Parenti, Arundhati Roy, Carl Jung, DaVinci, Fidel Castro, Nelson Mandela, Rakim, Billy Joel, Bill Mahr, Michael Eric Dyson, Malcolm X, PJ O'Rourke (one for the other guys), Jackie Robinson, Robert Anton Wilson, Bruce Lee, those who started the Stonewall Riots, Barbara Ehrenrich, George Orwell, Leo Mazzone, Jerry Rice... so many more.

Favorite athletes (present): Pedro, David Wright, Manny, Phat Albert, Allen Iverson, Andrei Kirilenko, Lebron James, LT2, Tiki Barber, Randy Moss

Favorite athletes (retired): Doctor K, Patrick Ewing, Bob Gibson, Larry Bird, Pistol Pete, Larry Nance, David Thompson, Lawrence Taylor, Mark Messier, Jerry Rice, Wayne Gretsky

Oh, and for what its worth I can drink your weight in beer.
Bill to Derek:
Surprised your most admired folks omitted Gandi, Nelson Mandella, John Maynard Keynes and John Kenneth Galbraith.

09-30-2005, 11:42 AM
Hi everyone. I'm a new member who only joined a few days ago. I don't have the time to present a huge summary of my life, but will tell you a little bit about myself...

I'm 34, a Libra, and grew up a huge Red Sox fan in Boston. I am of Irish, Italian, Scottish, and Seminole descent. I moved to Indianapolis with my girlfriend a while ago, and am slowly getting used to a huge cultural gulf. I have no kids. I enjoy reading about sabermetrics and Bill James' writings, but i admit sometimes being baffled by some statistics, perhaps because I am a very right brained person. I am a distant relation to both Don Sutton and Hugh " Losing pitcher" MFEMFEM: so you can tell I'm a fairly complicated person just from that! I am also related to John Boyle O'Reilly, a 19th century Irish patriot, poet, publisher, orator, and social activist who was quite famous in his time. I hold a master's degree in English. My thesis was on defending Tolkien from the hostile assertions of Edmund Wilson. My favorite authors include Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, Aristophanes, Gogol, Dostoevsky, Shakespeare, Bob Kaufman, Frederick Douglass, H.P. Lovecraft( though I think he's a total jerk),Hawthorne, Poe, and many others.

Favorite players growing up - Bernie Carbo, Oscar Gamble, George Scott, Bill Lee: basically anyone a little offbeat. I enjoy talking about 19th century baseball, and relatively obscure/forgotten guys like the early 20's Browns. I tend to stay away from discussing the obvious choices like Ruth, Cobb, Mays, etc. i have a huge sympathy for underdogs in both baseball and life in general. Politically, i am quite left of center...I most admire MLK, Lincoln, John Lennon, Dylan, Mother Teresa, and Jesus.

Musically, I enjoy some classical and jazz music, but my biggest interest/ passion is rock music from , say, 1966-1971. I feel that that was the greatest period in rock history. In addition to the bands that everyone's heard of, I am a huge fan of the following groups/ artists:The Move, Moby Grape, Love, Spooky Tooth, Blue Cheer, The Pretty Things, Tim Hardin, Tim Buckley,The Idle Race, The N.Y. Rock Ensemble,The James Gang, and almost everyone from that era.

First game attended was the penultimate game of the 1978 season. I think Tiant beat the Blue Jays to force the one game playoff, but my memory could be faulty there. I also saw the 4th game of the '86 Series in person, Gaetti's 2 triple play game in either 1990 or 1991, and about 75 Red Sox games in all. My biggest baseball regret is leaving early on the day that Yaz got his 3,000th hit.
Bill to Oscar,

Welcome aboard, good friend. Sounds as if you'd be very politically comfortable with ElHalo (post 14) and Derek (post 97). Good, healthy, left-of-center, socialist values.

Surprised your most admired folks omitted Gandi, Nelson Mandella, John Maynard Keynes and John Kenneth Galbraith.
first paragraph regarding parents: not particularly growing up. had as many problems with parents/ authority etc as many kids do, but i always respected them. as i get older they become more heroic each day.

pet peeves- got all day? well, the following things get on my nerves-

jackson browne (and yuppie music like that) awful bowl cut, whining voice, overly sensitive lyrics. plus he got a free ride from the music critics since day one.
hard core republicans. especially the blueblood types that live in fantasyland. this war which i don't agree with. automatic flag wavers, and the people who voted for and idealize bush without even thinking about it..especially people who are soooooooooo ******* stupid they think that this blueblood aristocrat is just " one of them."

limp bizkit and that type of music. most modern rock-exceptions: radiohead, afghan whigs, white stripes at times. fred durst is the anti-christ. how anyone can't see how huge the gap is between awesome real musicians ( hendrix, beatles, cream, miles davis, roland kirk, just for starters are in comparison to most of these durst types are is utterly astounding.

the reverend ian paisley.
john davidson from that's incredible, etc.
dennis quaid and kurt russell- hacks.
any reality show you can think of. especially the ones where the kids say to the camera "kirsten wounded my inner child" or some b.s. like that.
chicago, jethro tull, the moody blues, and santana for peaking early, being great for a while- and then producing relatively little of any worth since about 1971.
the guy who replaced barbarino in the sweathogs.
predictable people with predictable views. racists, demagogues, preachy people, people who give you unsolicited advice ,squares, and sheep. people who fail to see the dignity and sanctity of the poor, who scorn the homeless, who pretend they don't see wrongs in society, etc and then have the gall and HYPOCRISY to say how much they love Jesus.

karim garcia who is a thug and was a marginal baseball player to boot, and jeff nelson who is a fascist brownshirt anyway.
i am pretty shy- one of those people that takes a while to open up. not real shy though. that was more of a rant than it perhaps should've been.

more useless facts about me:

favorite colors- blue, red, and purple

favorite foods- italian, chinese, oranges, chicken dishes of any kind. i like to drink lemonade, coffee, or strawberry shakes.

playing baseball growing up- AWFUL at first. through hard work i became a good fielder, but always a bad hitter- didn't strike out too much but chased pitches out of the strike zone. righthanded, no power, i'm quite short , 5'5, and only weighed 118 pounds by the time i got out of school. very surprising - i come from a family of noted athletes- 2 relatives, albeit distant ones, played in the majors, and a closer relative got a tryout with the red sox in the mid 60's. hit the ball nevertheless, due to superb vision, but bad plate judgment and lots of groundouts and foul outs. if sabermetricians had seen me they would've berated my little league OBP and OPS!

FAVORITE MOVIES/ shows- lots of 'em...godfather 1 and 2, lord of the rings series, M, goodfellas, silent films such as- nosferatu, phantom of the opera ( the lon chaney one), battleship potemkin, and the 1927 film about napoleon, la dolce vita, metropolis, joe, david lean's films, citizen kane, boys in the hood, shaft, the unforgiven and other eastwood flicks, the usual suspects, chaplin films, planet of the apes films (for heavy handedness and unintentional hilarity), salem's lot, blazing saddles, cool hand luke, i'm gonna get you sucka!, young frankenstein, the producers, monty python's holy grail and ALL of their stuff, blacula, i claudius miniseries, some hitchcock films, mean streets, shawshank redemption, 12 angry men, the man who would be king, family guy, simpsons, sports/film/music/history documentaries, sleuth, jaws, salesman ( a documentary, not death of a salesman) the rocky and bullwinkle shows etc. etc.... i thought the ken burns baseball series was flawed but ok, he did a better job with jazz and the civil war.
Mordeci added this:
Looks like you and I could trade DVD collections and barely notice any difference. About the only things that you mentioned that I don't own are I, Claudius and Battleship Potemkin, both of which I've come very, very close to buying in the past. I may buy Potemkin and Alexander Nevsky next week and have my own private Sergei Einstein film festival.
KHenry14 added this:
Go and get "I, Claudius" today. A truly wonderful spectacle, with a delicious turn by a young Patrick Stewart as Serjanus...a must have!

Ytown Tribe fan
10-01-2005, 11:07 AM
(Originally began posting on the old baseball-almanac forum way back when.)

My dad was born in western PA and started following the Tribe when Bob Feller was a rookie, listening to the great Jack Graney call the games on the radio.

My first game was in the early '60s, when Dick Howser was a youg shortstop and Rocky Colavito was already a Tiger. So I became a fan of a cursed franchise, like so many other fans here. Luckily, my dad took me to Pirates games as well, including the first game at Three Rivers Stadium. Highlights: the return of Rocky Colavito, the '71 Pirates, my favorite player: Manny Sanguillen.

Moved to the SF Bay Area in high school, just after Mays, Marichal and McCovey departed; boy those were some lean years for Giants fans. Highlight: Johnnie Lemaster's first plate appearance, an inside-the-park home run. Johnnie should've kept on running right then, right out of the ballpark. Favorite players: The Count and Johnny D'Acquisto.

After an enlistment in the Air Force, moved to the Kansas City area, and enjoyed a decade of fine baseball, starting in the early '80s, and got married as well. Highlights: '85 Royals, watching my favorite player ever, George Brett and, oh yeah, getting married. Not necessarily in that order.

Moved back to Ytown 10 years ago, right when the Tribe was something to see again, thanks to Mr Dick Jacobs. Still married after all there years, and with two sons who like to see the Scrappers, although the teenager is a Pirates fan. Rebellion -- gotta love it.

Highlights: watching Albert Belle do in '95 what David Ortiz is doing now. Watching a young team grow up before my eyes this year and make a great run for it before my very eyes. Watching my boys grow up (righty shortstop and lefty in the 'pen). Seeing Frank Zappa in '73, '75 and '77. Trying to get Link Wray inducte ito the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Trying to get Minnie Minoso into the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Annie to Ytown Tribe Fan:
I just want to say Welcome Back to Ytown Tribe Fan, who was here when I joined up in '01, and whom I haven't seen around these parts for a couple of years. It's good to see an old familiar name come back and rejoin the crowd. :waving
Catcher24 to Ytown Tribe Fan:
Ytown Tribe Fan: Where in Western PA were you from originally? I was born and raised in Jamestown, NY, so I'm somewhat familiar with Western PA. My dad took me to Cleveland and Pittsburgh both, too. Hence, I am also a long-suffering Tribe fan ('97 still hurts ). I see you attended the first game at Three Rivers. Did you get to any at Forbes before it was gone? PM me if you don't want to answer on the thread.

Thanks for the post!

10-09-2005, 09:04 AM
Bill, I may have to revisit at a later date and go into more detail. I admit at this time I just don't have the patience to sit here and list as much of myself as some others have. But I promised I would make my mark in a week or so, that was a week ago so, here it is.

Born and raised in Buffalo, New York. Date of birth 1945.
Raised on a farm the first 11 years of my life, a real farm where the homes were long distances apart. I fell for this great game of baseball while living on that farm. The first time I saw a baseball, when a visiting uncle hit me some fly balls, I was about 7 years old. All I know is it was love at first sight. knew nothing about the game but just hitting that ball, swinging the bat, chasing down balls, what a great game. Unfortunately neighbors, kids were not living close in the country, who do I play with. I loved the game so much, when my dad was not around, at work I would just hit the ball, run and pick it up, hit it again, for hours. What a great game I thought.

Moved to the city in the early 1950s, Buffalo N.Y. Graduated from high school attended Syacuse University for two years.

Drafted at the age of 22. Had it made in the service for the first 14 months. Was sent to Guided Missile school, Huntsville Ala. Just like being a civilian while there, no KP, no guard duty, go home at the end of the day. I was married and lived off post. after 14 months I was sent to Fort Lewis and then I realized I was in the army, KP and field trips.

I do have one son living in Seattle.

Baseball, midget league and American Legion and Muny League in Buffalo.

TV, kind of a TV drop out, close to it. Love the History Channel, Learning Channel, Discovery and a few weekly series.

Favorite team, might have inherited this from my dad, The Yankees.
Favorite player, probably already known to most here, Babe Ruth.
Certainly admire a good number of other greats, Hornsby, Cobb, Mathewson, Williams, Dimaggio, Aaron.. too many to mention.

One of my biggest thrills related to the game.I read in the news that a 3 day seminar dealing with Babe Ruth was to take place at Hofstra University this was in 1995. Just for the heck of it I sent some little known facts about Ruth the university. To my surprise a week later I was sent an invitation to attend that seminar. I had to go, what fun. At that seminar was Bob Feller, Ralph Kiner, Harmon Killebrew, Robin Roberts, William Jenkinson one of the best baseball historian. At the end I got to meet James Shuart president of Hofstra and was informed that my paper work was placed in the Hofstra Archives

At this time I am retired, work a part time job. Do it for a few bucks and also to keep busy, I still get up about 6:00 AM every day.

Surprised at the ages of some on this board, so young. Many of them had me fooled with their knowledge of the game, I thought they were older, thse kids know their stuff.

At this time I spend loads of time at a spot I love the most. A spot you turned me on to, thanks Bill, those news archives at ProQuest, what a wealth of history, can't get enough of it.

Thats all for now, back to the geame, that great game.
Randy to Joe:Thats so friekin' cool man, nice goin' ;) :clapping
On the farm, that was way back, we did know our neighbors quite well. Even though you might find homes on average to be around a quarter or half mile apart, farm folks were laid back, always willing to help their neighbors. I did visit the road I lived on many years later and it no longer looks like farm country, homes on top of homes, little space between the houses.

Syracuse U. great memories, you know, when your younger, less cares fun times, the college life. I don't read that much only because I lack the patience. One book I did read completely "The Naked Ape" deals with the human race, why we do some of the things we do. Two guys I find very interesting, Winston Churchill and Ben Franklin, Ben was a very intelligent man, to say the least.

My name is Joe and actually my original screen name was BABYRUTH0, which I still have but do not use often.

Just to touch on my first game, MLB game that I saw was in the ealy 1950s. My dad took me to Cleveland to see the Indians and the Red Sox. In those days there were many excursions to Cleveland from Buffalo, at times 8 or 10 bus loads, usually to see the Yanks. On that day seeing the Red Sox, it was probably second to seeing God. Walked up the runway my first big league game and there he was shagging flys, Ted Williams, never forget that. There were very few games on TV back then and that was black and white. This was in living color and it was Ted Williams, seems like just yesterday.
Lew to Joe:
Shoelessjoe3: All right, another Fever member from my own Western New York. I was born and raised in Jamestown. Man after my own heart as far as TV - if it isn't baseball, the History Channel, Discovery Channel, I usually don't bother. Nice post - thanks!:waving
Joe to Lew:
OK then when I did live in the country, late 1940s early 50s I was not very far from you.You are probably familiar with Eden N.Y. Right next to North Collins. Jamestown, isn't that the birth place of Lucille Ball. Did you ever get to North Collins and do you remember Speedys, I believe it's still going.
Lew to Joe:
Yes, Jamestown is the home of Lucille Ball. Well, we take the credit anyway. She was actually born in a small village (Celoron) that adjoins Jamestown. My mom knew her somewhat, but knew her brother Fred much better (Lucy was older, Fred closer to mom's age). I am familiar with North Collins; that's where they have (or did have) the pumpkin weigh in every fall. Don't remember a Speedy's; do remember a very good restaurant at the intersection of Rts. 62 & 39, but can't remember the name. I think that was the same place they had the pumpkin weigh in, if I remember right. Took a few people from this county to the facility at Collins when it was still a state facility.

Also familiar with Eden. That's where they have the corn festival, where the kazoos are made, and where the funeral home with the most appropriate name ever (Wentland) are!

Thanks for the reply!
Joe posted an addenum:
Well I did post a brief bio here some months ago but I thought I might share a little story about my first trip to a MLB game. I was very young maybe 9 or 10 years old in the early to mid 1950s. At that time all games were in black and white and maybe one game a week shown. There were excursions from Buffalo N.Y. to Cleveland the closest MLB team to Buffalo. By train, hundreds of fans from Buffalo, excursions were mostly always when the Yanks were in Cleveland.

On this trip it was the Red Sox we went to see. I was amazed, never saw a baseball stadium in color, only black and white TV. What a sight, the grass was the most intense green color and batting practice was taking place watching that bright white ball against the background of the stands.

Than it happened. There he was, my dad said "thats Ted Williams" he was shagging balls in the outfield. Maybe seeing God might have topped this but in this case it was the next best sight, number 9 standing feet away from us. All I remember was Ted hitting a long high home run into the upper deck and amazed at how smooth his swing was. Appeared to put no effort into his swing but the ball than disappeared into a sea of spectators.

We did go to a few more games to see the Yanks in Cleveland, would have loved to have seen Dimaggio in the flesh but he was retired. I do recall watching Yankee Eddie Lopat known as the "junk man" pitching a low hit game against the Indians. I couldn't believe it, Eddie appeared to be just playing catch with the catcher the Indian batters couldn't touch him. He seemed to throw so slow I was sure even as a 12 year old I could hit him.

Closing, I was a country kid from Eden N.Y with a population of maybe 1000 people and here I was in a ball park watching the Indians and Yanks with 60,000 plus people what a sight. Some of the greatest memories I have as a young boy are connected to this great game.
I wish I had more to offer but am not even sure of the year, early to mid 1950s. At that time I was 6 to 9 years old. I only remember it was in Cleveland on a Sunday probably a double header. Don't recall the score or even who won the game or games. Could have been as early as 1951, not likely 1952 or 1953 , Ted played less than 50 games total over those two seasons.

Thank you for the offer to help, wish I could supply more info.

One other little tale, a game my dad took me to in Detroit to see the Yanks. I believe 1954 or 1955. Tiger Earl Torgeson steals home in the bottom of the 9th to beat the Yanks.

We had great seats right behind the Yankee dugout and what a sight we saw. Yankee manager Casey Stengel running out of the dugout yelling at the Yankee pitcher as Torgeson broke for home. It seemed like every one in the park was aware of Torgeson going for it... except the Yankee pitcher who did not pitch from the stretch but went from a full wind up. I think it was Bob Turley.

10-16-2005, 05:51 PM
Wow William I think you must be the first person in the history of the US to have Jimmy Carter and Barry Goldwater on the same Most Admired Americans list.

I have thousands of lists I have kept as well. I enjoy seeing other people's interests and life stories.

Well to introduce myself.

Age: 22

Ethnic background: Mutt like most white Americans. mainly German but I have some Italian and Scotch-Irish blood as well.

Born: Springfield, IL

Occupation: Student and Army Reservist

I was raised in a small and rural central Illinois town by my mother who is a nurse. I really didn't have much to do with my father. He worked for the State of Illinois, coached little league and was a huge Reagan republican. I only saw him on holidays and such. He passed away a few months ago. Just to clarify though I am not one of those Maury Povich kids who cries "Where were you Dad!!" Nothing like that. I enjoyed not growing up with a father. I loved my childhood and I think I would have felt uncomfortable with another parent. I never had any ill will towards my father.....ever. I was sad when he died even though I hardly knew him.

As a youth I played Soccer, Baseball and in 7th grade I started to play football.

I was an excellent soccer player a poor baseball player and an average football player.

In high school I played baseball freshman year. I batted 233 with 3 Home Runs (second most on team) while platooning at third base......I was an awful fielder though....AWFUL. I struck out alot. As a batter I was cast in the Rob Deer mold. I was a switch hitter with home run power from both sides of the plate though. However, the kid I platooned with at third was also a freshman and he was better. He batted like 370 and was a solid fielder. I was more interested in football though so this is the only year I went out. Our record was like 11-14:mad: . We are not a baseball town.

In track (Sophmore, Junior year) I threw the discus. Won some smaller meets but was only average. Longest throw 132 ft.

Football was where I played the most. I was an average player on a team that was supposed to win the state title....we got robbed in the playoff quarterfinals (after outscoring our first two opponents 80-13). I know people always say they were cheated but we seriously were. They were allowed to get two plays off in 6 seconds, their line false started on the final play and their HB pushed in their QB in the last second......AND even with the help he never broke the plain. Thankfully they lost in the title game. I started DT and was the first o-lineman off the bench. No. Im not a large guy. I was 5ft9 and weighed 175. My greatest asset was speed and I was a pretty strong kid (benched like 285). I had the most sacks on our team (11). My sack totals were dependant on the fact that I played next to the best NT in the state who ate up double and triple teams. So all I had to beat was a guard who I was always faster and usually stronger then.

After High School I joined the Army Reserve and attended a small university in Springfield. In the army my best two mile time was like 14:30 and I could and can do 70 pushups in two minutes and 75 or so sit-ups in two minutes. This gives you like a 240 on your PT test at my age. The max is 300 and the smallest amount you can do to pass is 180. Nothing too hard.

I was activated to go into Iraq in 2003. I was sent to Ft. Riley, Kansas but as we were waiting to deploy Baghdad fell and the (lack of forsight) military planners sent us home thinking the war was all over. My unit has been on Homeland Defense orders for the past year and we are scheduled to be activated again in the next few months with the intention of heading overseas. So I may only be here for a few months:ughh.

I am not trying to open up any political debate but contrary to what you might assume given my seemingly anti-french sign off, rural upbringings, Military background and the fact that I mentioned that my father is a Reagan republican...but I do not agree with the Iraq war. I am also a moderate democrat (or as you people may call us nearly extinct) who does not find our presdient (my boss) to be all that competant or great. Again not trying to offend some W supporters or open a political debate. I type at like 7 political forums so this is the last place I want to discuss or argue politics. Despite being aligned with a party I am pretty open minded and I try to never allow partisanship to blind me. Like In our state I intended to vote for former Govenor Jim Edgar (a republican in the centrist mold) instead of the corrupt, job kick-back democrat governor (who admits scoring a 19 on his ACT) in Rod Blagoevich. Edgar decided to pass though. I notice that alot of baseball fans tend to be pretty big republicans and it would ruin the purity of this site to make it political. I have alot of republican friends and family.

My interests include World Politics and World History mainly. I won some social sciences state awards in High School. I have a pretty good bank of knowledge. I could name the presidents frontwards and backwards since the age of 6. I know the capital to every country in the world. I know alot of world leaders and political parties. I know every governor in this country. I could probably name 90% of US senators and 60-70 % of the house. I could name 75% of all the Supreme Court Judges we have ever had. I can tell you anything about the Second Punic War, Greenland and Iceland. I have alot of general knowledge about sports in general and music and movies. I am a potpourri guy. I am not a specialist though in those fields. I know alot of baseball for a common guy but I am sub-par on this site from what I can see. I know alot about movies but I probably dont know as much as say Moviegeek who posts here. I can name two Kursowa movies...Ran and Seven Samurai but he can probably name them all. If information was baseball I would be a solid utility infielder. Alot of info about alot of subjects but I am an expert in very few. I am servicable.

My sports interest and baseball interest sprang on its own. As I said I was raised by a single mom. I have no clue why I liked sports that much. I was watching Sportscenter at 6 like religiously. I just liked numbers I think and the aspects of stats. Not just playing stats but heighth and weight and all of that. I collected thousands of sports cards and I was alone. My passion was created entirely within me. My dad was a sports nut so maybe it was just genetic and not environment.

Favorite Baseball Players.

Tony Gwynn, Craig Biggio, Barry Bonds, Wade Boggs, Cal Ripkin Jr, Mark Grace, Tom Pagnozzi, Shawn Dunston, Jody Davis, Ozzie Smith, Tommy Herr, Willie Mcgee, Jack Clark, Pedro Guerrero, Eric Davis, Ron Gant, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine. Names reflective of living in an area with alot of love for the Cards and Cubs. Old Time players I had an obsession with... Jimmie Foxx, Harry Heilmann, Hal Trosky, Dom Dimaggio, Dolph Camilli, Gabby Hartnett, Norm Cash, Dick Allen, Bobby Bonds, George Foster, Ralph Kiner, Hank Greenberg, Ted Kluszewski, Joe Adcock..... Just something about their stats or name or something that always made them click with me.

Favorite All-Time athletes.
Barry Sanders
Marcel Dionne
Mike Singletery
Pat Lefontaine
Steve Largent (despite being a republican:) )
Greg lloyd
Bam Morris
Sam Mills
Roy Jones Jr
Archie Moore
Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson
Michael Jordan
Steve Kerr
Gary Payton
Isiah Thomas
Bernard King

To name a few.

Favorite fiction Books in no order because I cannot find my list:mad:
Cat's Cradle.....Vonnegut
Franny and Zooey....Salinger
Atlas Shrugged....Ayn Rand.....I have some Libertarian streaks
Friday Night Lights....Cannot remember author
Slaughterhouse 5....Vonnegut
The Sirens of Titan....Vonnegut
Brother Termite...cannot remember author
The Mysterious Stranger...Mark Twain short story
The Day of the Locust...Nathaniel West
1984 ....Orwell
Fahrenheit 451.... Bradbury
Less then Zero....Bret Easton Ellis
American Psycho...Bret Easton Ellis
The Rules of Attraction....Bret Easton Ellis
Primary Colors...Anonymous
Fight Club....Chuck Palahniuk (murdered that spelling I think)
Haunted......Chuck Palahniuk
Valis.....Phillip K Dick
A Scanner Darkly....Phillip K Dick
Ubik......Phillip K Dick
Man in a High Castle.... PKD again

I tend to like Sci-fi and social commentary and satire in my fiction.

I read mainly biographies and non-fiction books. To many to list. I own 500 plus books and alot of my favorites that are non-fiction do not follow a linear plotline. So you end up reading it in a fragmented way. I have favorite non-fiction books that I havent even read completely. Its hard to rate factual books. Its like saying I like my heighth more then my weight.

Favorite 26 Bands and or singers.

1) Tool
2) The Doors
3) The police
4) Peter Gabriel
5) Simon and Garfunkel
6) The Cure
7) Talking Heads
8) Nirvana
9) Fleetwood mack
10) Blue Oyster Cult
11) Pearl Jam
12) NIN
13) Bjork
14) Opeth
15) Tricky
16) Jimi Hendrix
17) Depeche Mode
18) A Perect Circle
19) David Bowie
20) Portishead
21) Staind
22) Radiohead
23) Massive Attack
24) System of a Down
25) Primus
26) Pink Floyd

Top 5 Soundtracks
1) Solaris (newer US version not the old Soviet flick)
2) Gattaca
3) Williams Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet
4) Exacaliber
5) Glory

Top 51 favorite movies. I have a list to 500.:hp I love lists.

AND the all-Time Cliche number 1...

1) Shawshank Redemption....Should I lie to myself to be unique??
2) The Elephant Man...Not usually a Lynch fan...This is his most conventional
3) Apocalypse now
4) Network.......Note the rend of me liking Robert Duvall
5) Hoosiers.....Im not a critic....you will not see a Citizen Kane, Battleship Potemkin or Casablanca on my lists.
6) Glory
7) Field of Dreams
8) Fight Club
9) American History X
10) Altered States
11) To Kill a Mockingbird
12) Buffalo 66
13) 12 Monkeys
14) Time Machine (1960's version)
15) Badlands
16) Boys From Brazil
17) The Hustler
18) The Ice Storm
19) Cool Hand Luke
20) Gattaca
21) Planes. Trains and Automobiles
22) Bringing Out the Dead
23) Leaving Las Vegas
24) Groundhog's Day
25) Donnie Darko
26) Barry Lyndon
27) Henry Portrait of a Seriel Killer
28) Igby Goes Down
29) The Deer Hunter
30) Sex, Lies and Videotape
31) Election
32) Office Space
33) Ben Hur (60's version not the 20's version)
34) Spartacus
35) Dead Poets Society
36) Lolita (90's version not the Kubrick 60's version)
37) The Virgin Suicides
38) The Fog of War (documentary but o'well)
39) Dolirs Claiborne
40) the Big Lebowski
41) Donnie Brasco
42) Braveheart
43) Crumb (another Documentary)
44) Memento
45) Amelie
46) Big Fish
47) Omega Man
48) Silence of the Lambs
49) Rushmore
50) Rear Window
51) Personna

Top 10 actors
1) Gregory Peck
2) Robert Duvall
3) Edward Norton
4) Al Pacino
5) Meryl Streep
6) Michael Sheen
7) Anthony Hopkins
8) Bill Murray
9) Morgan Freeman
10) Faye Dunaway

Top 10 most attractive women
1) Famke Janssen
2) Audrey Tautou
3) Bridget Moynihan
4) Lucy Liu
5) Demi Moore
6) Franka Potenta
7) China Chow
8) Halle Berry
9) Kim Delaney
10) Monica Bellucci/Carrie-Ann Moss.

As you may tell I am high on dark haired women.

Like I said I have thousands of lists on everything from cereal to fast food, video games, soda, animals, Porn Stars anything. I am compulsive about it.

To cap it off I will name my favortie sport teams in each sport

1) Giants
2) Cubs
3) Tigers
4) Cardinals
5) Pirates

Rarely do you see somebody from where I am from say they like both the Cubs AND Cardinals

1) Steelers
2) Lions
3) Bears
4) Bengals
5) Bills

2) Blackhawks
3) Blues
4) Sabres
5) Flames

1) Bulls...we are getting better:clapping ....lost Curry though:mad:
2) Seattle Supersonics
3) Boston Celtics
4) Sacramento Kings
5) Dallas Mavericks

Small tidbits about me. I am allegedly related to both Daniel Boone and William Jennings Bryan. Bryan is best known for being the loser in the 1896, 1900 and 1904 US presidential elections and for advocating overturning the Gold Standard in our currency to silver and for the Scopes Monkey Trial (creationism versus evolution) of 1925. I find it funny because I could not be at greater political odds with a politician.

I have never been baptized but have attended Lutheran and Methodist churches. I have also been an agnostic and a Deist. I dont know what I am anymore. I said I was Coptic Christian on some military papers just for the heck of it. My father was Catholic.

My eyes are slightly different colored. Heterochromia Iridium is what I have I think. The pigmentation content of my eyes shift.

My hands are extremely limber and flexible. I can bend and contort them in alot of ways without much pain.

I have difficulty noticing hue differences in certain shades of colors like green and blue and orange and red and purple and black. My color spectrum is not very wide.

I kicked a 42 yard field goal once.

I have a cat named Cincinnatus

I love Roman names

I only have three baseball autographs.....Derrick May, Kevin Roberson and Bernard Gilkey......quite a valuable collection;) if I say so myself.
His Official Opinions:
West Coast Orange and Black complimented Pretorious:

why i dig pretorius:
"I do not agree with the Iraq war
Barry Bonds
Jack Clark
his book and film preferences
a 42 yard field goal"

why i am worried for pretorious:
"I was activated to go into Iraq in 2003... the military planners sent us home thinking the war was all over... we are scheduled to be activated again in the next few months with the intention of heading overseas."

10-18-2005, 09:46 PM
Here goes:

Born in 1950 in South Boston, MA and lived north of the city for 25 years. Graduated from Somerville HS, have a BA and MEd from UMass. My mom died when I was very young, and my dad walked with a limp due to a childhood accident. My dad raised me by himself and had a hard life. His friend was an AP photographer so we got great seats to watch Cousy, Russell, Havlicek, Ted W. and the Red Sox, and the Boston Bruins. I'll never forget Orr as an 18-yr old rookie dominating grown men on the ice, or the incredible teamwork of the Celtics, or Ted hitting two home runs in a game.

I never touched a baseball until 11 when I tried out for little league. I played RF for two years and we won the City Championship. Pitched a one-hitter in my only start. One of my biggest mistakes in life was quitting HS baseball because my friends quit. I'm a lefty and had a curve and sinker I could control. My nickname here is in honor of TonyC. I played some HS basketball and ran the 600 yard dash in indoor track. I was the type that was ok at most shorter distances, but never great at one.

I played fast pitch softball in the Marines and played it for a few years afterward. My work career includes the US Post Office, teaching in Elementary & Jr. Highs, Sales and Customer Service. I currently work with customers from Australia and Asia.

My favorite musicians are Van Morrison, the Eagles, George Winston, the Greatful Dead, Pink Floyd, James Taylor, Bonnie Raitt and Springsteen.

I like the Neft & Cohen Almanac that breaks down every season into teams and the entire roster of each and their stats. I have too many baseball books to list, but this website turned me on to Walter Johnson's biography recently. I co-authored a baseball biography and am working on a local baseball history right now. Having a job and raising a 19-yr old and a 14-yr old keep interfering with my writing time.

My daughter played HS volleyball and ran track. Watching her win the 100 meter dash in Jr. High at an Invitational was a moment I'll always treasure. She was never big on playing on teams, and sports were not her favorite thing. My son plays HS soccer and will soon tryout for basketball and baseball. He played 6 positions last year on the school baseball team so defense is his strength, and hitting is what he needs to work on. I coached my kids in baseball and softball for nine years and their teams never had a losing record. My son's team in his final season won the LL championship in the 9th inning after coming from behind twice in extra innings. He had a no-hitter until 2 outs in the 6th inning.

I was at the 1975 WS Game 6 in Fenway. I stood in line at night for several hours to get tickets and had to decide whether to get Games 1 & 7, or Games 2 & 6. I figured it might not go all 7 games so I took Games 2 & 6. The experience after Fisk's HR was similar to having a child...you have so much energy and adrenalin.

Thanks for the work you put into making this an interesting site.

I co-authored a book called The Legend of Wild Bill Setley several years ago. It was about the colorful career of a eccentric minor league baseball pitcher who defied authority back in the 1890's. Later on in his life he became a minor league umpire and police detective. The story kept growing once we discovered he had a 30-year career in baseball and was a famous storyteller.

I am working on another book plus a research project on the Cuban Giants. I seemed to be drawn to the 1890's era in America and love that period of time.

My grandson will begin his baseball "career" next summer when he starts tee ball. He throws and writes with both hands so maybe we will have another lefty in the family? My son played high school varsity baseball, and then declined a chance to play college soccer at a flagship state school when a better offer came along from a private college. So he turned to rugby, and now I attend his club games trying to learn the rules little by little. I breathe a sigh of relief every time he gets up from the bottom of a pile of players without being injured. We have our own family rivalry as he is a Yankees fan and I'm a Red Sox fan.

10-28-2005, 11:54 PM
i thought the ken burns baseball series was flawed but ok, he did a better job with jazz and the civil war.
Jazz was very incomplete. Baseball was fine. Civil War was the best.
Wamby to Dave Garza:
I thought Civil War was excellent. I thought Baseball stunk. It should have been titled Race and Baseball. Some of Ken Burn's other stuff has been good, but I think he is a little heavy-handed where race is concerned.
Four Tool chimes in with this:
Civil War was great, despite some weaknesses. I gave up on Baseball long before the end. Jazz left something to be desired--but just about anything on that subject would.
Lew Snyder adds this.
Agree 100%. I enjoyed the Civil War series immensely, and was really looking forward to Baseball. What was done to the black players wasn't right - I think everyone on this site agrees - but Burns played on that theme far too much, to the detriment of the entire series, IMHO. My wife bought me the book several years ago, and I haven't even looked at it yet.
Captain Cold Nose:

ask him what it was like to be a bloomer girl
:laugh :crazy

As a baseball man and history fan, I will once again attempt to find Eddie Plank's grave in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania while I visit there this weekend. I was able to obtain the coordinates from another site, but the large, still-in-use cemetery isn't very well marked in spots. There are Planks in several locations.
Which site did you get the coordinates from? Geocaching.com or Waymarking.com by any chance? Have you seen The Baseball Necrology by Bill Lee? Probably wouldn't help you, since you already know the cemetery, but sounds like an interesting and useful book. Good luck with your search! Perhaps the local library would have the location, or know a fan who does.
Captain Cold Nose:
Findagrave.com is the site I use. I've never used the two you mentioned. I'll check them out. Thanks.
Asking around is a good suggestion. The cemetery is part of the national park, it is connected to the veteran's cemetery that Lincoln dedicated. (The reason for the Gettysburg Address.) In his post-baseball career, Plank was a battlefield guide working for the park, so they may have that information. Thanks again.
Captain Cold Nose:
Interesting piece of info, Captain! I'm also going to check out the site you use. The ones I mentioned are more for geocaching (a hobby of mine; baseball is a necessity!). My wife has been wanting to go to Gettysburg for quite some time. If you find it this trip, PM me please. I would be very interested in seeing it myself when I get down there.

Trust me, go to Gettysburg. No Civil War site comes close, although I will admit I've never visited any Deep South sites. I leave friday morning, so hopefully I'll have some results when I return.
Gettysburg is a wonderful place--but because of the encroachments of businesses and tourist traps, in some ways I prefer some of the southern sites which don't have those problems to the same degree. The only two of note I have yet to see are Mobile Bay and Pittsburgh Landing in Western Tennessee. Do a little reading before you go to any of the battlefields--almost every major battlefield has a magazine length piece on it (I think by the Civil War Times, but in any event some such outfit) that shouldn't be too taxing yet will enrich the experience many fold. You can then combine what you've read with the refresher from the show at the visitor center and combine all that with the markers at key points. When I was a kid, I dragged my family to the battlefields, but because I did enough reading about the Civil War, I could make them see at least a part of what I was seeing on those visits. After a while, they started to ask if there were any battlefields we should see.
Captain Cold Nose:
The one thing I like about Gettysburg is, despite the touristy stuff outside the park, the actual park is doing a really nice job of maintaining the intergrity of the battlefield, right down to the trees, removing any speices not in Pennsylvania in 1863. You look at cities like Nashville and Richmond, and a lot of what happened in those areas has been paved over.
It's good advice to check out what you're visiting before you visit it. For one, in sites that are really spread out, like Fredericksburg/Spotsylvania, chances are you'll miss something if you don't have a plan. Or you'll know what to expect if your only experience is with the grander sites and you come across a place, like Antietam, that, while grand in stature, may not seem like so much for the ill-informed.

When I was a kid I went to a lot of those sites without really reading up on them beyond what was listed in my parents' AAA book. I am glad to visit the sites as an informed adult and thankful we still have them.
Captain Cold Nose:
The first time I visited was shortly before they tore the tower down. And you have that right about the feeling you get. Being on the battlefield at dawn and watching the sun go down over South Mountain are both musts and major parts of the experience.
The town seems to be pretty split in its allegiance to either the Pirates or Phillies. Actually, I've seen quite a few Oriole caps around town, too.
Jim - Strange you mention the Civil War Times. In my teens-early twenties, I became quite interested in the Civil War, and actually subscribed to that magazine for a few years. The first game I ever bought with my own money (paper route) was Battle Cry, a Civil War game by American Heritage, and I think out out by Milton Bradley Co. Sorry to say I have never been to any of the major battlefields of that conflict. I did have a great-grandfather who was a lieutenant in the 112th New York, from western New York.
I remember that game. Not on a par with today's more complex sims, but interesting. I think some of those magazines can be found at the bookstores of the battlefield Visitor's Centers (my wife expects me to come home with books if we visit a battlefield), but I mentioned them more because they are reasonable histories but not too long--which is ideal for most folks. If you're into history, there's nothing like seeing the ground on which battles were fought. It really helps put it all into perspective. My personal greatest yen is to one day visit the beaches of Normandy (D-Day).

I have a great-great (and maybe one more great) grandfather who served in one of the Pennsylvania outfits, Isaac Albright IIRC.
Splendid Splinter:
Gettyburg is the best place ever to go to if you want to learn or see something from the Civil War... I mean... I got to go to the same battlefield that my great-great-great grandpa died on. He fought on the north side (he was on the famous "Pickett's Last Charge" and his brother died there too. His brother fought the south so they fought each other (seriously... that is not right at all). When I was there, my feelings were out of this world because of the history and my family. I can't explain it in words...
Captain Cold Nose:
Those who have stepped foot on the battlefield, whether they had ancestors fighting there or not, understand. Mr. Albright, I know people who were born well after the Normandy Invasion who were brought to tears walking around Omaha Beach. It has to be one of the most intense places in the world in terms of bringing up emotions.
Those with a sense of history should. I believe what you say about Omaha Beach--the pictures alone convey that feeling to me. My own experiences tell me that the pictures rarely convey the full magnitude of the experience, no matter how skilled and knowledgeable the photographer. That's precisely why I want to go there. It may be a wrenching experience, but I do not want to miss seeing one of the most momentous sites in 20th century history. Hiroshima and Auschwitz are other places I want to see, though they too should be highly emotional experiences. Washington D.C.'s Holocaust Museum was quite an experience--but while it has artifacts, it didn't happen there . There's a difference between a museum thousands of miles away or pictures and the actual ground. It's hard to put into words, but I've always felt and understood the history of places like that better once I've been there.

11-04-2005, 12:22 PM
Name: Andy
Born: 6 December 1978

Grew up in: Pittsburgh PA.
College & Degree: Penn State, BS Mathematics

Currently working for a government agency as a statistician. I know, how weird is it that a statistician would be interested in baseball?

Love of my life #1: Music. I love music from the Beatles to Coldplay and everything in between. I can play guitar but not very well, and write songs that aren't very good.

Love of my life #2: Cats. I know it's wussy. I bet you like something wussy, too.

Love of my life #3: Pretty girls in tight clothes. For obvious reasons.

Favorite baseball moment: 2001 World Series, Game 7 - I never thought I'd see the Yankees lose.
Least favorite baseball moment: 1992 NLCS Game 7 - All I wanted was for my hometown team to make the World Series. I didn't care whether they won it. Instead the 1990-92 Pirates were completely forgotten.
Favorite historical players: Gehrig and Clemente

Introduced to baseball at age 9, I started to devour books about baseball history. I forgot about it for a while, until I bought "Politics of Glory" which rekindled my interest in both baseball history and statistics. About two years ago I stumbled across the "Hall of Merit" on Baseball Think Factory, which in turn led me to baseball-fever, which led to baseball history and discussion becoming my main hobby.

History Of Baseball Fan
11-06-2005, 02:36 PM
pitching every regular season game, and playoff game for 5 years straight hurt my shoulder :(

took a few years break from pitching, then went to center field every game. best position to play !!

Bill Burgess
11-16-2005, 05:48 PM

I have been asked a question about how I conduct this thread. And I do admit to deleting posts on this thread. So I would like to talk to you about how I am maintaining this thread.

I started this thread to give us all a venue to express ourselves about ourselves, who we are, what we're about. And Fever, Sean, our webmaster has been unbelievably tolerant of us chatting about non-baseball topics.

When I was made a moderator, this thread had reached 10 pages, with only 2 pages of bios. The rest was bloated with chit-chat, long past relevance.

So I simply went back and sorted through the posts. I tacked some posts of some members to their original bios. Others, I consolidated into topics.

Others, I deleted. The entire point was to keep this thread relevant to Fever members. It's been my experience, that whenever a thread reaches a certain size, it sinks of its own weight. Few have the time/patience to read through the accumulated sundry chit-chat. Or would want to.

My purpose throughout this whole time is to keep this thread a viable, credible, functioning instrument. One where we can learn from each other.

So, if a post of yours suddenly disappears, do not despair. Many did not "disappear", but got reassigned to their original bios. We have 4 topics which contain the input of several members.

Post #59 is labeled "Pet Peeves". Several members contributed to this.
Post #73 & #74 is labeled "Rock Music". Many members contributed to this one.
Post #98 is labeled "TV Character Actors". Several members contributed to this topic.
Post #101 is labeled "Ken Burn's Civil War" documentary.

So, a huge number of posts are not really "gone", merely moved.

I have went back & gone through all the bios, and wanted to notify all the members, whose bios got added to. I attached later posts to these following original biographies.

2. 64Cares-----------27.KHenry14-------54.Wolverineman----84.Deadball2005
2. Julusnc-----------28. Chanceron---- 56.barzilla--------92. Dodger
5. HonusWagnerRules--29. rockin500-----57. Chancellor-----93. Sultan_1895-1948
8. leecemark---------33. JohnnyGhost---61. abolishthedh---94. dgglahhh
9. Imapotato---------35. JW------------63. VTSoxFan-------95. oscargamblesfro
11. PumpsieGreen-----36.Splendid Splinter--67.BristolBoy--96. Ytown Tribe fan
14. ElHalo-----------37. Wamby---------70. janduscframe---97.ShoelessJoe3
15. four tool--------38. West Coast OB-72.WindyCityfan----99. Pretorius
16. Captain Cold Nose-39. Say Hey------75. jalbright-----
18. mordeci----------44. catcher24-----79. Nutmegh----
19. Wagner33---------46. schlabotnik---81.Southlah CubsFan
21. Sirmudgeon-------48. SABR Matt-----82. TyrusRaymondCobb
22. tonjes-----------49. Ize19
26. RuthMayBond

So, I will/do delete/consolidate extraneous posts to these threads. And I also spend a certain amount of time with the spell checker.

At the end of the day, I do all I do to assist Fever to be the best it can be. And if these few functioning instruments can remain viable, credible, trim, lean vehicles for our entertainment pleasure, I am happy to serve our community.

I appreciate your continued support.

I encourage all to use this thread as a community bulletin board. We will continue to leave up all new messages for a few weeks, as long as others are responding to them. And after that, the good stuff will either be consolidated in single posts, or attached to someone's original bio, or dumped into the unfathomable maws of eternity (deleted).

Bill Burgess
Catcher24 is so gracious:
Bill - You're doing a fine job, and I for one appreciate it. Keeping the "flotsam and jetsom" of the threads to a minimum is an excellent idea. Thanks for all of your time and effort in helping to keep the Fever a viable and interesting site!
I'm new to bbf and I'm not so sure what goes on behind the scenes and quite frankly no so sure what this thread is but i second everything that was said - this is a great site - i wish i had been here a long time ago - you guys must be doing something right - i appreciate it - thanks
Captain Cold Nose:
Bill, thank you very much for the above post. Hopefully it will alleviate any misunderstandings. Much appreciated.

55 chmps
11-25-2005, 01:23 PM
Name : Joseph Michael Pantorno
DOB: December 10, 1991
Education: I'm right now attending Farmingdale High School. I'm a freshman.
Baseball passion: I got it from my dad. He influenced me to play, my interest somehow reached to the Brooklyn Dodgers, it's wierd, a 13 year old kid who can name you the lineup for the 1954 Dodgers. anywho....
Favorite Ball players: Jackie Robinson, Pee Wee Reese, Duke Snider, Roy Campanella, Gil Hodges, Carl Furillo, Stan Musial, Roberto Clemente, Honus Wagner, Ty Cobb (Even though he murdered his dad), Tom Seaver, Tommy Agee, Willie McCovey, Lou Gherig, Yogi Berra, Mike Piazza, and Ralph Kiner.
Movies:Miracle, Eight Men Out, Field of Dreams, The Great Raid, Happy Gilmoure, Napoleon Dynamite.
Bands:The Beatles, Outkast, All American Rejects, Queen, surprisingly Simon and Garfunkel are okay, Blue Oyster Cult.
Favorite Basketball Player:Walt Clyde Frazier, Lew Alcindor, Bob McCadoo, Oscar Robertson, Patrick Ewing, Vince Carter, Kevin Garnett.
Favorite Football Player:Lance Allworth, Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Lawrence Taylor, Fran Tarkenton, Otto Graham, Y.A. Title, Dick Butkus, Chuck Bednerek, Johnny Unitas.
Favorite Actors: Adam Sandler, Will Smith, Eddie Murphy, Owen and Luke Wilson, Vince Vaughn, Will Ferell, Cedric the Entertainer,Matthew Perry, and Arnold Schwartenager.
Actress:Meryl Streep, Hally Berry, Jennifer Aniston.
Books:Bums, The Boys of Summer, 1947: When All Hell Broke Loose, Artemis Fowl, Harry Potter.

I am very glad that you got through that, and well that's everything ya know, it's wierd all these baseball, football, and basketball players I weren't even born to see, that's what makes them look so much more heroic.

11-25-2005, 07:08 PM
Born in York, Pa om 11/29/52 (yeah, I know. Another B-Day coming on like a freight train.

Have lived in Washington, D.C., Northern Virgina, Richmond, Virginia (literally surrounded by Civil War battlefields east of Richmond where I lived), and now reside in Charlotte, North Carolina.

School: High School grad and attended excelerated Computer Programming classes at York College.

Career: Data Processing with a huge DP Sevices company based in Texes. have worked for this company for 25+ years.

Interests/Hobbies: All sports but baseball has always been my favorite. Play golf and used to be good at it. U.S. History buff. Love reading about and visiting historical sites. Gettysburg is commercialized now but still outstanding and well documented. Been there many times. Actually took my wife-to-be on a date to the battlefield.
Love to travel to play golf and visit historical sites.
Have become a workout addict in my dotage. Lift weights for first time in my life; exercise (crunches, push-ups, etc) and try to walk 3 brisk miles every day no matter the weather. Been know to walk in 5 degree wind chill and 100+ degree heat index.

Voracious reader. 50% are baseball history. Read mysteries for a change of pace. Favorite authors are John Jakes, Jeffrey Archer, Sue Grafton, and Ken Follett. Have stopped reading Jack Clancy and Stephen King.

Music: 60s and 70s Rock N' Roll. Favorite band was early Doobie Brothers (pre Michael McDonald). Too many bands and songs to list. A co-worker has gotten me to list out my favorite songs and has created numerous CDs for me of my all-time favorites. Still listing them. :rolleyes:
Also, if you promise not to laugh: Love listening to Frank Sinatra.

Favorite Movies: Gunga Din (I've lost count how often I watched this movie); Indiana Jones movies; Bogart movies; love Laurel & Hardy; best western is Silverado.
Favorite Actors(deceased): Cary Grant; Humphrey Bogart; Charles Laughton; Bette Davis; and actress who played Scarlett O'Hara (name escapes me).
Favorite Current Actors: Harrison Ford; Robert Duvall; Al Pacino; Dustin Hoffman. Actresses: Sandra Bullock; Meryl Streep; Catherine Zeta-Jones.

How I became a Yankee fan: One of earliest memories is of the 1957 World Series in 1957 between Yankees and Milwaukee Braves. My Dad and Mom had many friends over to watch the Series. That's how big the World Series was in those days. ALL the people were rotting for the Braves, not because they were Milwaukee fans, but because they disliked the Yankees (my Dad was a huge Red Sox and Ted Williams fan; after Ted retired Dad switched to the Orioles). I felt sorry for the Yankees (I wasn't quite 5 years old) because nobody was cheering for them. I did and have ever since.
My parents think I may have said 'Mickey mantle' before I said Momy and Daddy. ;)

Single favorite trip I ever took: Lived in Richmond, soon to relocate to Charlotte in November of 1994. Had never been to Cooperstown. Always planned on it but never got there. My wife and I decided to make a dash to Cooperstown for a weekend (from Richmond!). Figured if we move to Charlotte may never go then. Started raining as we pulled out of driveway and continued raining all the way to New York. Terrible driving weather. Couldn't see ahead at times going over mountains in Pa and with waer running down the highways. Was never deterred. Was on a mission. Arrived in Cooperstown at night, exhausted. Checked into a motel outside town. Cold, cloudy, drizzling. Was at the door 5 minutes before it opened. They had to ask us to leave when they wanted to close for the night!!!
I was in heaven!!! Best and most worthwhile trip ever.

I guess that's enough. :clapping Don't wanna bore you too much.
Randy shared this heart-felt love for his Dad.

It's very strange that you ask about our parents and whether they were our hero's.

I just lost my Dad on November 27, two days before my 53rd Birthday. My Brother-In-Law called me the day after Thanksgiving and told me I better come up (they are in York, Pa) because Dad wasn't good.
My wife and I made the long drive to Pa the next morning. Half way through the drive my Brother-In-Law called me on my cell phone. The doctors told him and my sister to come in right away. Dad wasn't gonna make it.
We arrived after visiting hours at the home he was living at were over. The nurses kept it open awaiting our arrival. My sister and brother-in-law were there. Dad was sedated and sleeping. I hadn't seen him for several months. I was shocked by his frail appearance. he had always been well built and sturdy. I didn't want them to wake him up.
We returned the next morning. Dad was awake but in terrible pain and was for the most part incoherent. I was told he had been incommunicado for the past 3 or 4 days. They were giving him morphine by mouth nearly every hour.
I sat down, held his hand, and said, "Dad, it's Randy. We've come up from Charlotte to visit you." I said it a couple times. My sister and her husband were shocked, as were the nurses, when my Dad appeared to recognize my voice; tried to speak; and to roll over toward me. I told him that I was here and if he had been waiting for me he didn't have to anymore and to let it go. Not to continue suffering.
He spoke, saying, "Son". He was trying to speak but was incoherent most of the time. He did focus on my face a couple times. After quite some time I tried to convey to him that we had to leave. Incredibly, he asked clearly why we had to leave. He then lapsed into sleep.
We began the drive back with heavy heart, staying at a motel about 1/4 of the way back to Charlotte. Traffic was very bad on the Interstate and it was raining. Around 10:30PM, about 4 hours after we had left, my Brother-In-Law called to tell me that Dad had passed away. Dad had apparently hung on until he could 'see' me one last time.
We flew back up a couple days later, exhausted, having worked that Tuesday and Wednesday (I had to handle a crisis at 3AM and worked all day). The funeral was Friday morning. I stood at the front of the Funeral Home in front of family and friends and gave an eulogy of my Dad.....from the heart. I didn't candy-coat it. He could be irasible, stubborn, critcal, lacking in tact, and argumentive. But he also gave me some of the greatest things in life I have: a love of sports, particularly baseball; reading voraciously; love of U.S. History; traveling; and a desire to earn my salary.
He was the hardest working person I have EVER known in my life. He did it for his family. That was how he showed and gave his love to us as he was not expressive in his emotions of love. We never wanted for anything. He made sure we had what we needed and then some. He was successful in his life as a Building Contractor depsite being from very humble beginnings and having nothing more than an 8th grade education. He served his country during WWII. He suffered through losing his wife, my Mom to cancer. He later lost his 2nd wife to a terrible car accident that he somehow survived. My Mom had been a saint. My step-Mom was a wonderful women who had lost her husband some years earlier. I loved them both dearly.

I will miss him but always remember him in my heart and in my mind.

As I type this, I have tears in my eyes....it's the first I've cried since I saw him.

Yes, Bill, he WAS and IS my HERO.
Bill to Randy,

I feel your love/pain. We will always have our Dads/Moms in here. We can talk to them and feel their love. My Dad also never got his education but saw to it his family had the necessities. Lost him May 22, 1998, age 90.

Thanks for sharing your wonderful Dad with us all. Love/Peace always & forever. Bill
Captain Cold Nose welcomes Yanks0714 to Fever.
Some excellent taste. You're a better man than I am, yanks0714.

01-20-2006, 09:21 PM
Bill, I borrowed liberally from your piece that started the thread, hope you don't mind.

Scott Michael Carter, 6'4, 300+ pounds(depends on what I had for lunch)
Born: September 15th, 1972 in Hamburg Germany. My dad was in the Army working in the motorpool, and didn't go to Vietnam because his CO liked the way he tuned a jeep.
1973-1990: Lived in Starr Ohio, a "town" of about 50 people.
1990-91: Columbus, Ohio as I attended OSU
1991-1998: Back in Starr, working and living with the folks until I was 26
1998-present: Logan, Ohio with the love of my life(temporary) and the best friend I've ever had(currently) whom I met online back in 98.

Education: Union Furnace Elementary, Logan High School, Ohio State for 4 quarters, Hocking College for 2 years. No degrees...classic under-achiever

I have no idea where I got my baseball passion. If any credit is due, I guess it would be from my Grandfather, Joe Carter. I used to occasionally get him a can of Buckhorn while he watched the Reds on Saturday afternoon. My dad didn't ever watch sports or play them except an occasional game of catch or HORSE. My mom taught me to hit when I was young, but stopped coaching me when I could outhit her(a decent softball player in her day) at age 7. I started out a Reds fan, and it stuck. My first favorite player was Ron Oester, but after reading a kids book about Pete Rose (who had already moved on to the Phillies by the time I cared about baseball at 8 or 9) I quickly named him my favorite and set out to learn more. This led me to Johnny Bench, and I was there when he hit a HR on Bench day at Riverfront in '83. It is 3 1/2 hours to the nearest ballpark from Logan, so games were a once or twice a year experience that I still treasure, and Great American Ballpark is by far the prettiest of the 7 ballparks I've been to (the others being Cleveland Municipal, the Jake, 3 Rivers, Riverfront, PNC, and Tiger Stadium). I was a Cecil Fielder of a ballplayer growing up, but with a good glove. I had such prodigious power in my 9-11 year old league that I was moved up a year early, and my skill didn't catch up for 4 years. At 15 I was cut from my high school reserve team due to politics (I still remember....I got a total of 4 swings-all linedrives-before I was cut in favor of the coaches son and all the teacher's kids) and didn't attempt high school baseball after that. I was a stand out in city rec, and took to slow pitch softball on a competitive level at 19. Played in State championships 5 of 7 years from 1991-1998 before my no longer single status caught up with my 150 games a year schedule. I was (and still am 2 nights a week) a power hitter with a great glove at 1B and an adequate enough glove at 2B, 3B, the corner OF spots and pitcher to make it worthwhile to keep me around even with a bad back and sore knees from years of pick-up basketball.

I also played some high school football, and played pickup basketball with some of the best college players around at OSU when my roommate was a walkon back in 1990 (remember Chris Jent, Treg Lee and Marc Baker...I SURE DO!).

Work: 1990-92 summers at Hocking Hills State Park
1993-96 Tree trimmer...300 pound squirrel, it must have been a site to behold!
1996-1999 Laborer in a Lumber Yard
2000-present Laborer and Quality Control at Anchor Hocking Glass Company

Favorite ballplayers: Willie McCovey, Eric Davis and currently Adam Dunn.

Favorite movies: Anything baseball, anything comic book related(my other passion), Back to the Future trilogy, the Goonies, Planet of the Apes, also a softness for the wave of 20-something comedies like American Pie and 40 year old Virgin.

Favorite Rock Bands: Guns N Roses, Genesis, Kid Rock, 3 Doors Down, Nickelback, and a bunch of girly stuff I'm not gonna mention, and Eminem even sounds good sometimes

Music I Don't Care For: Although I may like an isolated example from a category, the categories I don't care for, as a whole are: Country, blues, gospel, heavy metal, New Wave, Rap, Jazz, Latin.

Music I'm predisposed to Like: Top 40....wish I knew why

Classical Music: I can't bring myself to listen to much if any music without words....its the story a song tells which sings to my ear

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jim Thorpe, Jim Brown, Jesse Owens, Ty Cobb, Babe Didrikson Zaharias, Honus Wagner, Michael Jordan, Mohammed Ali, Wilt Chamberlain, Carl Lewis, Red Grange, Jesse Owens, Jack Nicklaus, Arnold Palmer, Tiger Woods

Favorite Basketball Players: Magic Johnson, James Worthy and Larry Bird, although I couldn't stand him when he was still playing

Favorite Football Runners: Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Gayle Sayers, Barry Sanders, James Brooks, Ladanian Tomlinson

Favorite Actors: its more like guys I don't like, which include Tom Cruise and Richard Gere.

Favorite Actresses: I'm a sucker for a pretty face...I like 'em all.

Favorite Books:
I collect Stephen King First Editions, and the Stand and the first 5 volumes of the Gunslinger series are my favorites.
Anything Sci-Fi and Fantasy
The Da Vinci Code scratched an itch I didn't know I had if that makes sense
All In Color for a Dime

Favorite Sports Books:
The Glory of Their Times, by Lawrence Stanley Ritter, 1966
Ball Four by Jim Bouton
Various editions of Total Baseball, especially 1st. ed., 1989
Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, by Bill James, 1985, 1988, 2001
I still refer to my old copy of the 1987 Baseball Encyclopedia as "the Bible"

Men I Admire Most: (thanks for these Bill)
Leonardo Da Vinci, 1452-1519, Italian Florentine Renaissance painter, sculptor, architect, engineer, scientist; leading figure in sparking the middle Ages towards an Enlightenment in the arts, sciences.
Albert Einstein, 1879-1955, German Jew, theories on physics changed his field.
I tend to purposely overlook history outside of Baseball...its easier that way.

Favorite Cool Stuff: Comic books, my collection value in the $40-50000 range.

My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies:

Listed chronologically, not in order of preference.

1. Pride of the Yankees - 1942 - Gary Cooper, Babe played himself, as did Bill Dickey, Bob Meusel, and Mark Koenig.

2. The Natural - 1984 - Robert Redford as aging rookie sensation. Glenn Close does nice girl, Barbara Hershey does dark enigma, Kim Basinger is easy on the eyes.

3. Eight Men Out - 1988- John Cusack and DB Sweeney make you have real sympathy for Jackson and Herzog, whether they deserve it or not.

4. Field of Dreams - 1989 - Kevin Costner gets unique chance to reunite with his Dad.

5. Major League - 1989 - Charlie Sheen and Company rock the mistake by the lake. "Nice catch Hayes....don't ever bleeping do it again"...James Gammon as manager Lou Brown was classic!

6. A League of Their Own - 1992 - Geena Davis played composite player, Dottie Hinson. Tom Hanks, Madonna, Lori Petty, Jon Lovitz, Rosie O'Donnell support well.

7. The Scout-1994- Brendan Fraser and Albert Brooks. Campy and far-fetched, but I still liked it all the way through

8. Soul of the Game - 1996 - Delroy Lindo, Mykelti Williamson play HBO film's Satchel Paige/Josh Gibson. Good pathos. Had heart.

9. For Love of the Game - 2000 - Kevin Costner is back in uniform.

10. 61* -2001- Barry Pepper and Thomas Jane as Maris and Mantle were absolutely awesome. A true must see.

Honorable Mentions:
Bad News Bears, the Sandlot, Summer Catch and a bunch more----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Scott's Official Opinions:

Thats about all for me....

01-20-2006, 10:39 PM
Well you asked, so here goes:

I flunked first grade. So I am not sharpest knife in the drawer as they say. I still recall at age 6 listening to the conversation tween my parents when Mom broke the news to Dad that I had taken a dive at the private school. He said, 'Hell, he can flunk for free down the street at the public school.' :laugh
I wasn't much on reading until I got hurt and spent the summer laid up at age 12. It turned out to be a blessing and the first adult book I ever read was the 'whitewash' version of Cobb's life by Al Stump. But, I recall thinking while reading it that Ty Cobb was a very tough dude.

12 was a great age. I recall my dad telling me :grouchy 'Johnny, for the next few years I am gonna look pretty damn stupid to you. BUT if YOU just stick with me I'll get smarter.'

And damn, if he wasn't right about that. I was worried about him for a few years there but when I got to be older I really appreciated him and my mom a lot more.
Anyway, I went in the army to pay for college. My parents idea of a college nest egg was a parking token for in front of the recruiting station. :eek:
Best thing that could have happened to me as it got me out of the house at age 18 and on my own. Spent the next ten years as an MP doing that a little bit of everywhere. Got out in 1991 having spent the last 3 years having less than 90 days with my wife soooo it got to be time to get out if I wanted to stay married. Went to college, got a BA in accounting, passed the CPA test, and then went to law school. (Law school will change you) Finished with a JD than decided not to be an attorney and went back in to federal service to have some kind of a retirement. Married 18 years with a son (age 7) and a boy on the way. I absolutely love the Pacific Northwest.
I have always enjoyed history. :lookitup :lookitup If I could make money at it that is what I would be doing. CPAN-2 and Brian Lamb are my pards.
In fact, my three favorite things about America are Jazz (listening to Horace Silver's Opus Da Funk circa 1951 as I type this), Baseball, and the Constitution. Jazz because of the art form, Baseball because of its timeless element, and the Constitution cause it -ideally- protects us all. (Can any of us think how unreal it was that just a few decades ago we actually had 'separate but equal' as the standard. It's like bizarro)
Anyway, while I loved the Civil War documentary, the other Ken Burns documentaries on Jazz and Baseball drove me -and I suspect many of you on this Board in regards to Baseball- absolutely freakin nuts. I think it is because we know so much on the subject and what Burns was doing was making it a survey course of sorts for a very casual fan. I recorded each episode of the documentary but haven't even thought about watching the Baseball or Jazz episodes.
Greatest baseball memory: My father in law was a native of Japan (he was a huge Hanshin Tiger fan which is akin to being a Cubs fan) and it was the greatest birthday of my life to take him on that day to Safeco Field to watch the M's play. I bought the best seats I could for us and it was a perfect day for him to see an American baseball game with his then five year old grandson. Ichiro/Sasaki both kicked butt. My father in law passed away unexpectedly about 4 months later but my son and I will always treasure that day. (Back in 1945 The first American my father in law saw was when he was about 11 and getting water from the river. An American fighter pilot tried to strafe him but that little boy was fast enough to duck under a bridge :dance )

Most admired person: Martin Luther King

People I would want to Spend Time with: Louis Armstrong/Babe Ruth

01-25-2006, 08:03 PM
I never got around to doing this. Seems like the perfect procrastination activity. Bill, I hope you don't mind, but I mostly used the template from your original post (though I left many categories out).

Name: Mike
Born: February 22, 1981 (funny, exactly 30 years after Bill) in NJ. I've also lived in the Boston area and Brooklyn.

College Grad; Currently a Law School Student

Favorite ballplayers:
Bernie Williams, George Brett, Bret Saberhagen, Willie Randolph, Wade Boggs, Gary Carter, David Cone, Bert Blyleven, Lou Whitaker, Derek Jeter, Paul O'Neill, Barry Larkin, Andres Galarraga, Rickey Henderson, Goose Gossage (I stick with those I've seen in one form or another during my lifetime)

Favorite movies:
Star Wars, PT Anderson Movies (Boogie Nights, Magnolia, Punch Drunk Love), Charlie Kaufman Movies (Being John Malkovich, Adaptation, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind), Gladiator, Goodfellas, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, Forrest Gump, Shawshank Redemption, Dr. Strangelove, Apocalypse Now, Amadeus, Indiana Jones, Unforgiven, the Graduate, Back to the Future, Almost Famous, Sleuth, Spinal Tap, Monty Python, Chaplin movies

Favorite TV Shows:
Arrested Development (Everyone watch on Feb. 10!); Simpsons; Family Guy; Curb Your Enthusiasm; Seinfeld; Friends; Three's Company; Cheers

Favorite Music:
Weezer, Led Zeppelin, The Who, The Beatles, Queen, David Bowie, T. Rex, Radiohead, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Tom Petty, The Kinks, The Rentals, Jimi Hendrix, Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi, Simon & Garfunkel, Cracker, Creedence Clearwater, Blur, Green Day, The Shins, Heart, Guns N Roses, Alice Cooper, Meatloaf, Rolling Stones, Kiss, Lynyrd Skynyrd, AC/DC, Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, Smashing Pumpkins, REM, U2, The Police, The Cars, and lots of Classical

Favorite Albums:
Pinkerton (Weezer), Tommy (The Who), Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars (David Bowie), Siamese Dream (Smashing Pumpkins), Seven More Minutes (The Rentals), Weezer (Weezer), Who's Next (The Who), Hunky Dory (David Bowie), A Night At The Opera (Queen), The Wall (Pink Floyd), Born in the USA (Bruce Springsteen), The River (Bruce Springsteen), Apetite for Destruction (Guns N Roses), Back In Black (AC/DC), Lola vs. Powerman and the Moneygoround (The Kinks), Deja Vu (Crosby Stills Nash & Young) Anything Beatles from Help through Let It Be, Anything Led Zeppelin, (I'm sure I'm forgetting stuff)

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century:
Tough to say since I was around for less than a 1/5 of the century. Michael Jordan has to be up there. Wayne Gretzky is the greatest athlete ever in comparison to his sport. Bo Jackson was a physical marvel. I think I need to think more about this category.

My Teams:
Yankees, NY Football Giants, NJ Devils, NJ Nets (though I was a pretty big Knick fan when I was younger). As for college teams, I support the Seton Hall Pirates and Michigan Wolverines, and pretty much any Big East team come March Madness.

Favorite Books:
Ball Four, Scandalmonger, Fox In Sox, A Tale of Two Cities, I'm also a big history and biography buff and that's mostly the stuff I read.

Men I Admire Most:
My Father; Alexander Hamilton; James Madison; John Marshall; Martin Luther King Jr; Tiki Barber

My Sports Background:
Baseball: Quit during high school, though I was probably good enough to make a division 3 collegiate team.
Soccer: High School
Tennis: High School (but still recreationally)
Golf: At one point, my handicap was down to about an 8, but now it's probably in the high teens.
Basketball: Recreationally.
Softball: Various leagues in and around NYC.
Bowling: 170-180 average (high over 250)

Best Baseball Memories:
1) First visit to Yankee Stadium. I was 9 and went for my best friend's birthday. His father somehow was able to get seats in the box right next to the Royals dugout. I talked with Bret Saberhagen and George Brett and Richard Dotson throughout the game (except they would shush me when Bo Jackson was up). At one point, I got into an argument with my best friend's father about how many Cy Youngs Bret Saberhagen had one (I correctly said two, he said one), and Bret Saberhagen was able to clear it up for us.
2) Jim Leyritz's homerun in Game 4 of the '96 World Series.
3) The Yankees winning the '96 World Series.
4) Getting to Cooperstown for the first time this past September.
5) Aaron Boone's homerun in Game 7 of the '04 ALCS.
6) Watching Mark McGwire hit the biggest homerun I've seen in person, way back into the black seats at Yankee Stadium.

Anything else?
Mike's Official Opinions:

01-26-2006, 09:57 PM
Name: Andrew

Birthday: August 26, 1987

Currently a freshman at Grand Valley State
in Grand Rapids, Michigan

Favorite Team: Detroit Tigers, but I like the Cubbies too.
Other Sport Teams: Detroit Pistons (35-5, hopefully they don't lose their next three like the 84 Tigers did), Detroit Red Wings, Detroit Lions, Michigan State Spartans.

Favorite Players, in my lifetime: Cecil Fielder, Travis Fryman, Kirk Gibson, Alan Trammell, Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark, Ivan Rodriguez, Bobby Higginson, Dmitri Young...and my favorite non-Tigers...Alex Rodriguez, Tony Gwynn, Albert Pujols, Larry Walker, Roger Clemens, John Smoltz, Greg Maddux, Ken Griffey Jr.

Favorite Books: the Bible, Eight Men Out, Dixon-Cornbelt League, Catcher in the Rye, To Kill a Mockingbird

Favorite TV Shows: Baseball Tonight, Sportscenter, TWIB (the pre and post Ozzie years), Friends, Simpsons, Family Guy.

Favorite Music: The Beatles, Steve Miller Band, The Who, Rolling Stones, a bunch more...

Favorite Movies: Back to the Future Trilogy, Field of Dreams, The Natural, Eight Men Out, Blues Brothers, Shawshank Redemption, Jerry Maguire...many more.

Favorite Baseball Memories: Last game at Tiger Stadium, catching my first baseball(batting practice, line shot down the left field line, I think it was Torii Hunter), Last time the Tigers made the playoffs(wait, I was only a month old), Cooperstown was pretty cool, but it was a long drive, playing Little League and Babe Ruth baseball for many summers.

Super Bowl prediction: Steelers 23 - Seahawks 17

Firm Beliefs: Tram deserves more than 17% of the hall vote, Comerica Park is a great place to watch a ball game, Pistons will win the NBA Championship this year, the Lions will not win until they fire Matt Millen, Ty Cobb was the best player in the history of the game, Detroit is a great baseball town but its like a sleeping volcano, and its been sleeping for a long time...

christian gentleman
02-01-2006, 01:35 PM
name: tyler
born: July 20, 1968, Boston, Mass.

grew up in New Jersey. Rumson. Attended boarding school in New England. Graduate of the University of Virginia. Now live in Amsterdam.

Worked in New York in advertising. Now have company in the Netherlands.

played little league and pony league growing up in new jersey. 3B, 2B and pitcher. all star team in 78, 79, 80. after that i couldn't hit. the curve balls came.

also play/played lacrosse, ice hockey, football, golf, tennis.

favorite players: christy mathewson, ty cobb, lou Gehrig, oscar charleston, graig nettles, brooks robinson, jackie robinson, ted williams, joe dimaggio, walter johnson, satchel paige, rube waddell, micky rivers, derek jeter, carlton fisk, yaz, the babe, honus wagner, sandy koufax.

my team was the yankees in the late 70's and early 80's. now I am a wider baseball fan but when it comes down to it I am still for the bombers.

baseball came to me through my dad and my friends. my dad was a red sox fan but not too dedicated. my friends and I always liked the yanks, mets and dodgers. i like the boston red sox too and also caught heat.

my grandparents taught me to appreciate the cardinals. they were from st. louis of course. my other grandparents were from baltimore and opened my eyes to the orioles. a lot of diversity. gas house gang and brooksie. musial and palmer. not as contemporaries but in terms of our talks. while at virginia the orioles and braves were big discussions. my wife is from toronto and still talks about their two world championships. i love baseball. that's all i know.

favorite movies: drugstore cowboy, chungking express, butch cassidy &the sundance kid, the searchers, wings of desire, paris texas, taxi driver, goodfellas, mean streets, godfather, on the waterfront, last tango in paris, blow up, days of heaven, badlands, apocalypse now, metropolitan, reservoir dogs, pulp fiction, night on earth, dead man, stranger than paradise, safe

baseball movies: pride of the yankees, bang the drum slowly, bull durham, field of dreams, the bad news bears, eight men out, cobb, the babe, and i like the burns documentary.

favorite actors: paul newman, marlon brando, robert deniro, ralph finnes, daniel day lewis, jeremy irons, philip seymour hoffman, sam shepard, willem defoe, william hurt, joe pesci, jimmy dean

actresses: lauren bacall, naomi watts, kathleen turner, meryl streep, katherine hepburn, audrey hepburn, kelly lynch, natassia kinski and i think cher does a good job now and then.

favorite teams other than in baseball: the new york rangers, ajax amsterdam

other than baseball sports heroes: wayne gretzky, arthur ashe, mike eruzione

music: bob dylan, grateful dead, bruce springsteen, u2, rem, jefferson airplane, elliot smith, peaches, new order, joy division, the smiths, led zeppelin, clap your hands and say yeah, air, radiohead, coldplay, yes,

best voices: janis joplin, eddie vedder, kurt cobain, chet baker, bono, elvis, frank sinatra, hope sandoval, patsy kline, billie holiday,

sports books: the natural, shoeless joe, summer of 49, cobb by stumpie. bill james baseball abstract, boys of summer, phil jackson's book on coaching, doris kearns goodwin's wait until next year

favorite books: the sound and the fury, for whom the bell tolls, absalom absalom, ulysses, disgrace, light in august, the grapes of wrath, master of petersburg, the birthday letters, in cold blood, running in the family, a farewell to arms, tropic of cancer, the great gatsby, the beautiful and damned...to name a few.

writers: fitzgerald, miller, hemingway, faulkner, joyce, woolf, austen, shakespeare, homer, euripides, kafka, shepard, coetzee...to name a very few.

a few observations on today's game: pitching is getting more and more crucial, especially closers. i loved the 2005 world series. the white sox were super. joe jackson is redeemed. god rest his soul. bonds is a bomb awaiting to explode. i hope he goes quietly. andruw jones was one of the most beautiful players i saw play last year.

pete rose will redeem himself soon.

have a great 2006 everyone.
mom and dad et alia
My mom and dad always taught me the meaning of hard work, humility and sportsmanship. My dad taught me how to skate and play ice hockey at an early age. He also taught me how to play baseball. He had an old glove, dark brown, that his dad bought him at Sears, I believe, back in the fifties. As I grew up, he had to put a sponge on his palm inside his glove because I was throwing harder and the leather on his glove was quite thin. I wonder if he still has that glove. I should check.

My mom actually taught me how to play lacrosse. Funny. My dad never played it, but my mom did, in Baltimore. She was the first one to teach me how to cradle, catch and throw. Great game.

The interesting thing is my great grandfather. In the early 20th century he and my great grandmother lived in China. While working in various parts of the country, he taught the local kids how to play baseball. My grandmother has photographs of him with the teams he created. I want to make a book from the photographs. I'm busy with that.

My pet peeves are arrogance and closed minds. We should be open to opinions and ideas of all kinds. It's just respectful and you can learn a lot just by listening.

While I love baseball, I admire other games as well. In 2002 my company here in Holland did a documentary called "The Other Final." It's about the two lowest ranked Soccer teams in the world playing a match against each other on the same day as the World Cup Final in Japan in 2002. The film and event were more about two cultures meeting each other for the first time and sharing their cultures over a game of soccer. I think we could do something like this with our game. For more info check: www.theotherfinal.com
Tyler's Official Opinions:

That's all for now, -cg

02-13-2006, 08:43 AM
Keith 6'3" 270#
Born: 9/15/65 Allegan, MI.
Grew up in Grand Rapids, MI area.
Moved to Detroit for a short time.
Been in Dallas Texas for 7 years

Graduated HS in 83.
Graduated College - BA History in 87
Graduated College again - Teaching degree - 90

Basbeall Passion comes from Dad

I work in Customer Service for Disability Mgmt company.

Favorite ballplayers: Cobb, W. Johnson, Honus Wagner, Babe Ruth, Joe Jackson, Nolan Ryan, Kaline, Lolich, Fidrych, Horton, Freehan, Trammell, DiMaggio, Williams, Clemente, Stargell, Rose.

Favorite movies: Star War series, Star Trek Series, Harry Potter series

Favorite Rock Acts: Beatles, Beach Boys,

Favorite Rock CD's: Abbey Road and Sgt. Peppers (Beatles),

Music I Don't Care For: Although I may like an isolated example from a category, the categories I don't care for, as a whole are: hard rock, heavy metal, New Wave, Punk, Rap, Opera.

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jesse Owens, Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Michael Jordan, Mohammed Ali, Mark Spitz, Mary Lou Retton

Favorite Actors: Tom Hanks

Favorite Actresses: Michelle Pfeiffer

Favorite Books:
The Lion's Paw

Favorite Sports Books:
Any Detroit Tiger/Tiger stadium tome.

I had a Hammer - Aaron
Baseball Encylopedia

Men I Admire Most:

My Most Admired Americans:
President Gerald R. Ford

02-19-2006, 06:46 PM
Brandon LeRoy Lott was born on March 23rd, 1972 at 4:56am in Ravenna, Oh to blue collar working parents Leroy and Gloria Lott. The fact that I started walking at 9 months was a precursor to the living reality of me as a very hyper-active kid and adult. Can you believe those stuffy school teachers wanted to put me on medication because I couldn't sit still in school? I can't believe it when my mom tells me about it, but, it is definitely so. Anyway, I have an older brother whose name is Dorran LaMar Lott and who was a natural athlete in baseball, football and basketball. He was also a natural fighter, which he inherited from my father, and thusly kept me from getting my ass kicked several times as I was also very hyper-active with the lip. I always knew my brother had my back.

I'm from a small town of 10,000 people. I grew up surrounded by lakes and trees and as a young kid had my most fun running in the woods and catching frogs and turtles. During that time period, 7-11 is also when I attended Catholic School as the only black kid in the entire school, learned to love baseball and played pee-wee football. My mom conned me out of playing football when I was a 90lb 6th grader by buying me a new BMX bike. This would land me in playing baseball until the 11th grade. I was cut the year after my mom cursed out the head coach, but, the fact that I could barely hold up the bat with my frail arms didn't help. However, I played 3rd base and had a pretty good glove, if I could say so myself. My brother and I, to this day, still play catch and I love going to the batting cages. When I got older and stronger, I taught myself how to switch hit (my brother did it naturally) playing wiffle ball and I have developed into being a better hitter from the left side than the right side.

Growing up the majority of my friends were white kids from the neighborhood. My parents moved out of the country ghetto because they didn't want me and my brother to grow up there, so, it was a natural experience for me to learn acceptance as there was nothing else that was accepted in my house. But, after hearing a few friends throw around the word "******" when I was in high school, I started to get an understanding of what race meant in the world around my naivete. Thusly, when I graduated from high school, one of the first things I did was to start researching myself as a young black man in America. Oh, how much I didn't know. Thusly, after a few years of research and a new attitude about the world around me, I became "Brannu." I grew up with my family and friends calling me "Bran" (yes, got tons of jokes as a kid, Bran Flakes, Corn Bran, blah blah blah), but, I added NU because I had a fresh perspective on the world. That is the one thing that has been constant in my life is learning new things and altering my awareness by accepting new ways of thinking to keep pushing me beyond previous limits.

The cornerstone of all that I am is centered around psycho-spiritual development and I have, as a passion, studied various forms of spirituality from Sufism to Hinduism, Taoism, Islam, Christianity, Traditional African Spirituality and Native American spiritual practices. I meditate, do yoga, practice Tai Chi and have to be in nature at least once a week or my mind and spirit go to mush. I love the mountains and everything contained within. I lived in Los Angeles from 2000-2004 and have been living in Albuquerque, NM for 1.5 years. I am a serious adventurer and find that I will most likely only be here for another year before the next adventure commences. I love the california coast with the mountains and ocean ... so, if my pocket can afford it, that's where I will probably land.

Education: Ravenna High School. 1986-1990.
The University of Akron (Akron, Oh). 1995-1999 (I also did a semester in '91 and '92 - but took three years off for personal research and evaluation). I received a BA in Psychology. I am currently researching graduate schools for a degree in an Environmental Studies discipline.

Work: YouthBuild Trade and Technology Charter High School - Counselor. I've been a counselor in one form or another for the past 6 years. My life work is as a writer/philosopher and hopefully will publish some of my philosophical vision sometime in this temporary life.

Baseball: My dad was a pitcher and my brother was probably the best baseball player in town until he blew out his knee playing football. He actually is looking at knee replacement surgery before the age of 40. But, watching them and playing myself just gave me a love of the game at a very early age. It was our life. If we weren't playing catch we were either playing for our respective teams in the spring/summer or playing homerun derby or pick up games. I was always an Indians fan - as I grew up in NE Ohio, but they always sucked so I adopted The Cardinals after the '82 World Series. Those are my two favorite teams, The Indians more so than The Cardinals ... but very close in rank.

Favorite Players: Ozzie Smith, Willie McGhee, Omar Vizquel, Manny Ramirez, Albert Belle, Vince Coleman, Orel Hershiser, Gregg Maddux, Jose Oquendo, Tony Pena, Kenny Lofton, Eddie Murray, Terry Pendleton, Mike Schmidt, Albert Pujols, Scott Rolen, George Brett, Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson, Stan "The Man" Musial, Jackie Robinson, Satchel Paige, Josh Gibson, Larry Doby, Lou Brock, Rickey Henderson, Don Mattingly, Ron Guidry, Dave Henderson, Pete Rose (!!), Ted Williams, Lenny Dysktra, Danny Miracle (childhood friend), LaMar Lott, Dave Shanley (great small town SS), Dave Stewart, Roger Clemens, Mark Prior ... and many, many more.

Favorite aspect of the game: I love watching great pitching and stolen bases. Whitey ball taught me so much about the game that it is very central to how I view the game.

Music: The most important part of my life outside of philosophy and baseball. I grew up on hip-hop culture, the voice of the voiceless ghetto. There is a very serious distinction between hip-hop and rap that most people don't care to realize but it is basically boiled down to the fact that the "break beat" is the most essential piece of the artform. I am a b-boy. However, although hip-hop is a major player in my life, Reggae, Jazz, Blues and Classic Rock are very near and dear to my heart.

Favorite Musicians: Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Freddie Hubbard, Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, Thelonious Monk, Wes Montgomery, Bob Dylan is my favorite song writer, Pink Floyd, Santana, Jimi Hendrix, Joni Mitchell, Led Zeppelin, Howlin' Wolf, Buddy Guy, Muddy Waters, Richie Havens, Rahsaan Roland Kirk, Krs-One, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G. Rap, Rakim, Public Enemy, The Mars Volta, John Lee Hooker, Bill Withers, Roberta Flack, Donny Hathaway, Marvin Gaye, Alice Coltrane, Donald Byrd, Bob Marley, Dennis Brown, Burning Spear, Israel Vibration, Third World, Steele Pulse, Rolling Stones, Parliament, Funkadelic, Nick Drake, Dave Matthews Band, Radiohead, ... gosh so many and much, much more. I love coming upon new music that I haven't heard.

I also collect vinyl.

Favorite Movies: Network, The Wall, Dr. Strangelove, Lord of The Rings Trilogy, The Matrix, Good Will Hunting, Sex and Lucia (spanish film), 70's Kung Fu Flicks, Beat Street, Wild Style, When Harry Met Sally, The Godfathers, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon ....

The Art of Intelligence, Jiddu Krishnamurti.
The Prophet, Khalil Gibran.
Metu Neter, Ra Un Nefer Amen.
A Lefty's Legacy, Jane Leavy.
Inner and Outer Chapters, Chuang Tze.
Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda.
Bullwhip Days, Slave Narrative.
Manufacturing Consent, Noam Chomsky.
A People's History of The U.S., Howard Zinn.
A Cornel West Reader, Cornel West.
Souls of Black Folk, W.E.B. Dubois
Things Fall Apart, Chinua Achebe.
From Slavery to Freedom, John Hope Franklin
The Importance of Living, Lin Yutang.
Tao Te Ching, Lao Tzu.

Beer: Guiness and almost any stout. St. Peters Chocolate St. Rogue Stout. Dark, dark beer.

Wine: Red. Cabernet, Shiraz, Pinot Noir.

Smoke: I smoke a pipe. Latakia blends are my favorite. Red Rapparee, Black Mallory, Old Ironsides, Pelican. I am currently loving Dunhill 965 and a local latakia blend known as Voodoo Queen. I also collect pipes.

Pets: I have two cats that I am now currently taking in as my children due to a break up. I would like to get a dog at some point, most likely a german shephard or black lab that I can go hiking with.

Things that are hard to tolerate: Ignorant people, racism, sexism, litter or anything that defiles mother earth, traffic jams, commercialism, pop culture, violence, hatred, guns, bad parenting, mega cities/urban sprawl, one sided media, police, our educational system, bi-partisan politics, globalization, over consumption, sweat shops, social inequalities, greed and anything that goes against the unification of all people.

Family: I have 3 nephews, 2 nieces, my dad was one of 14, my mom one of 5. My father is 60 years old, my mom 56and my brother turned 38 yesterday. My dad has worked in the same factory for 29 years and my mom worked for 26 years at Evenflo and has worked the last 12 years at General Electric's Lamp Plant. My dad is silent politically, but my mom as an ex Union president is a very vocal liberal democrat. My dad loves Football, enjoys basketball and likes baseball. My mom doesn't like sports and reads a lot of fiction and goes to church regularly. My great grandmother on my mom's side was Native American from Georgia, moved to florida and was one of 21. She also was one of three sets of twins. She smoked a pipe, too. She brought my mom and her siblings to Ohio in 1951. My grandfather on my moms side was from The Bahamas, but never had a real connection with his family and died before he was able to return to his homeland. My great uncle on my Dad's side was ran out of mississippi in the 40's for beating up a white man. His family followed and my grandmother brought my dad and his siblings to Ravenna, Oh in 1945 (my dad was in the womb).

And ... that's my story ... and I'm sticking to it. :)

02-19-2006, 08:47 PM
But, after hearing a few friends throw around the word "******" when I was in high school, I started to get an understanding of what race meant in the world around my naiveté.

Education: Ravenna High School. 1986-1990.
The University of Akron (Akron, Oh). 1995-1999 (I also did a semester in '91 and '92 - but took three years off for personal research and evaluation). I received a BA in Psychology. I am currently researching graduate schools for a degree in an Environmental Studies discipline.
My brother is clueless enough to use the word '******' around me even though (maybe because) my wife is black.

I got accepted to go to grad school at the U of Akron but I opted to attend Cleveland State. later on I gave some serious thought about going to law school at Akron.
Brannu's post provoked some unexpectedly heart-felt reactions.


Things that are hard to tolerate: police

Maybe I'm overly sensitive because of my 33 years in law enforcement, but it's sad that someone who at least appears to be intelligent can't appreciate the thin blue line that keeps this country from anarchy.

My brother is clueless enough to use the word '******' around me even though (maybe because) my wife is black.

I got accepted to go to grad school at the U of Akron but I opted to attend Cleveland State. later on I gave some serious thought about going to law school at Akron.

Wamby, sorry about the clueless brother. :grouchy
No excuse for that crap.
Enjoy the law school experience. It will change you.
I have been in an interracial marriage for close to 20 years and still get the occasional ignorant remark. :evil
west coast orange and black:

^^ i appreciate the thin blue line... and the thin red line between sanity and insanity.

many thanx for your dedicated service, catcher
west coast orange and black:

...still get the occasional ignorant remark.

sometimes it's ignorance but sometimes it's actual hate.
when someone shows me who they are, i believe them. who am i to doubt?

my best to you, johnny.

west coast orange and black - Thanks for the support. I do appreciate it. I also agree with your other reply. It is unfortunate people cannot accept others for what they are and what they do rather than for what color, religion, nationality they are or aren't.

west coast orange and black - Thanks for the support. I do appreciate it. I also agree with your other reply. It is unfortunate people cannot accept others for what they are and what they do rather than for what color, religion, nationality they are or aren't.

Amen to all of it. There are jerks who are cops, priests, rabbis, lawyers, ministers, imams, teachers, shoe salesmen, computer programmers, writers, etc., etc., all the way to butchers, bakers and candlestick makers. That doesn't make everybody in any of those groups bad. For the guy who doesn't like the police, I'd like to know who you'd call if you got robbed, or, worse yet, had some maniac with a weapon outside your house trying to get in to hurt you and your loved ones. The police and soldiers get a lot of society's dirty work, sometimes in a way that even costs them their lives. You have the right to complain about those in those professions who don't behave appropriately or about the manner in which officialdom chooses to utilize them--but you really ought to appreciate that a lot of those folks are actually trying to make your life safer and better unless you're hurting other people. Damn, after 9/11 and what the cops and firemen of NYC did, you'd think people would remember and take such things into consideration--but I guess too many of us are focused on right now, and even the recent past is meaningless.

We've got a very long way to go to realize Martin Luther King's dream that his and everybody else's children won't be judged by their skin color, gender, religion, nationality, job, etc, but by the content of their character. However, I hope most people find that dream one worth continuing to pursue.

Jim Albright
Four Tool:

I'm white, one of my sisters married a black man 30 years ago. Long afterward, when someone I had known for a few months said there's nothing wrong with blacks, but would you want your sister to marry one? I replied she did and ended the friendship.
Bill Burgess:

When I arrived in Cal. in 1979, I had a job as a taxi cab driver for over 10 yrs. I came to see the police as an adversary. The Palo Alto, CA area was low in crime, and the police were very into arbitrary enforcement of technical violations.

I got a lot of tickets, and was bitter against the police for a long time. I didn't correct my overall impression of them until I saw what a lot of them went through in "Wildest Police Chases" on TV. And some things on "Cops".

While I don't condone a lot of their tactics to bust drug offenders/sellers, in dragnet roundups in ghetto areas, I can now see another view of their work. Being a Libertarian, I don't really believe in laws against drugs, prostitution and gambling. But I realize it's politicians/officials, not the police, who set the policies.

Just like soldiers, sent to do misguided missions overseas, it's the politicians/officials who are in control & pulling the strings behind the scenes, who are the ones to direct one's ire towards, not the soldiers/cops carrying out their assigned directives.

At least that's what I think. I could be wrong, again.
Four Tool:

Excellent analysis of what the police go through and why, Bill. I know cops who don't like all the laws, but do their job, and do it right. I also know many good and nice cops.

The families have it tough, they'll hear of a problem chase or a shooting and wonder if their spouse or parent is safe. Been with spouses literally keeping vigil until they get a call from him/her or the department saying your husband/wife is fine and so is everyone else, or officer so and so is in the hospital.

Posted by Bill:
I didn't correct my overall impression of them until I saw what a lot of them went through in "Wildest Police Chases" on TV. And some things on "Cops".

Bill, those are the "fun" times!:eek: The tough times are when you're the one investigating a fatal accident and have to tell the family (got to do that twice in the last few months). Or you're the one who gets to investigate the suicides (shotguns are messy, but the guy who burned himself up was even worse). Or when you are arresting someone for driving while under the influence (drugs or alcohol, take your choice) and they're so stoned/drunk they don't remember killing the guy on the bike - who was on the OPPOSITE side of the road! Or you get to respond to dad (drunk, naturally) pounding the crap out of mom in front of the kids on Christmas. And believe me, that is an all too common occurrence. Those are the times that have given me my "silver top".

Jim, I really appreciate your post. Thanks!

Jim I can understand what you said.
I spent ten years in law enforcement as an MP and fully appreciate what it is like. Now I will be the first to admit that there is a percentage -albeit small- that are bullies/bad apples with a badge but the vast majority of 'em are great people that only want to go home at the end of the day. When I think of police officers, I think of my neighbor down the street who while breaking up a domestic fight between two siblings, lost his weapon, and then stepped in front of the one with the gun to prevent him from shooting his brother. He didn't go home that night and will never see his young boy again. I drive by Pat's house everyday and it still hurts.

You're welcome. I didn't cover all those regrettably ordinary things you cataloged--but your list emphasizes my point eloquently. I have found that big city cops (and maybe small-town ones too) do tend to get cynical--but if I had to deal with what you guys in the "thin blue line" do day in and day out, I'd be as cynical as all get out.

The other thing that makes a cop's job so crazy is that so often, they don't know when they're getting into a situation where their safety is at risk until they're actually in danger--and woe to any cop who is too quick on the trigger! A seemingly run of the mill traffic stop or domestic dispute can suddenly result in a dead cop. When most of us go to work, we don't have anywhere near the same reason to question whether we'll see our families when we finish work for the day.

Johnny - It always breaks my heart to hear those stories. Thankfully, in my 33 years on the job here (Western New York) that has never happened to anyone in my department. But we lost a NY State Trooper in an adjoining county, and a deputy in another adjoining county. A friend in a local municipal PD was shot in the head and survived, but will never be the same. And a couple of guys left my department with lifetime injuries gained through intervening in family fights and having both parties then turn on them.

Jim - Thanks again for your accurate perspective.

A lot of civilians don't understand it is the suspect that drives the action to a large degree. So when they see four cops on one person trying to subdue it looks like piling on. Actually, it is damned difficult to overcome someone that doesn't want to be subdued. But until you have done it it is hard to understand.

I remember back when I was in high school, some local jerks were up in our woods starting fires with gasoline and my mom called the police. A deputy came and asked me and my sister to describe the guys we'd seen, and Mom offered him milk and cookies, and as he accepted, Mom said "you have a hard time of it, don't you?"

That young deputy heaved a huge, tired sigh, and said "Let me tell you..." and he sat there eating milk and cookies and told horror stories about accidents and fights, and having to break up parent-sanctioned underage drinking parties (some that resulted in near-deaths from alcohol poisoning)...

Last summer, when my dad passed out cold in the kitchen (not long removed from heart surgery), the first help that came was another local deputy, whose calm demeanor and quiet support was of as much help to me and Mom as the EMTs gave to Dad.

I have immense respect for police officers, who do a job that would send most of us screaming with nightmares. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Bill Burgess:

I, too, need to make amends for my many years of bad attitude towards law enforcement people. Even though I wasn't aware of it then, they had put their lives on the line for the community. It was invisible to me then, but it is invisible no longer.

So, I would like to now pay my sincerest, heart-felt respect, & salute the brave men and women who put it on the line every day, receive so little support or understanding from those they protect and serve, and who sometimes pay the ultimate price. Here's to the police, our brave men/women in blue! :clapping :clapping And THEIR FAMILIES!:clapping :clapping :clapping

With gratitude now, for my sad & hateful & pathetic ignorance then. Arrogance was no excuse.

Is this a great board, or what? You are the man Bill! Good stuff.

Posted by Johnny:
Actually, it is damned difficult to overcome someone that doesn't want to be subdued.

What is the most difficult is someone who is on cocaine or, especially, PCP. These individuals have the strength of three or four men while on the drug, and feel no pain (literally). Those are the ones the media loves to show time and again, where "Police brutality" is running rampant. These individuals simply feel nothing and fight like demons. I am not denying that police brutality doesn't exist, because as someone mentioned earlier there are jerks in every occupation. But you know, if you are in law enforcement, being a jerk will frequently cost you your job (as well it should). And, believe it or not, most Internal Affairs units are ruthless about investigating these types of complaints. They have to get rid of the bad apples to avoid having everyone looked upon badly by the public, and also to avoid lawsuits.

I thank you all for your words of support. I can say (very thankfully) that, God willing, I will be retiring in about four months after 33 years in law enforcement.
Bill Burgess:

I thank you all for your words of support. I can say (very thankfully) that, God willing, I will be retiring in about four months after 33 years in law enforcement.

Let's all give 3 cheers to Lew Snyder (catcher24) for his 33 yrs. of selflessly assisting others. And hoping for his safe conclusion to a career well done.

Hip hip horay! Hip hip horay! Hip hip horay!:clapping

Peace, Love, Appreciation, Grace, Brother.

I feel your post #139 Bill. I was in the same crowded boat. Once you become more mature and realize what's most important, you gain a unique appreciation for those in certain positions. Catcher24 is a prime example

Reed Johnson
02-21-2006, 04:10 PM
My name is Adam. Im from Saskatoon. I dont know much about baseball because im a new fan.

I was born on July 22nd, 1991 in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. My favorite team is the Toronto Blue Jays and my favorite player is Roy Halladay because I think he is the best pitcher in the league and I was a pitcher when I played. I am more of a hockey fan then a baseball one and only became interested in baseball because of the lockout. I watch alot of Jays games on sportsnet every summer.


EDIT: About that Wack thing that is'nt my name. My brother went to all the sites I had in the bookmarks and posted some weird stuff. I guess he realized if he did something really stupid he would get in trouble so he just posted some pretty weird stuff.

03-21-2006, 09:05 PM
Hello guys!

Thanks for bumping this post up, Bill. I have not been neglecting to tell you guys about myself- I didn't know that this thread existed until today. Personally, I think that this is a perfect thread to "sticky". I will do a brief intro.

Name: Mark Matthew Busch

Date of Birth: 12/26/85 (which makes me 20 years old)

Hometown: New Alexandria, PA (40 minutes east of Pittsburgh)

Physical description: 6'2'', 170, brown hair/eyes

Current occupation: Student at Furman University in Greenville, SC. I plan on attending law school, hopefully at Duke. My dream job is to become a sports agent. If that does not work out, I may become a normal, mundane, practicing attorney.

Baseball experience: I have been playing ever since I was five. I started tee-ball when I was six, doing that for two years. Then there was one year of "minor leagues" before playing Little League from 9-12. I played recreational leagues until I was in high school, where I played for my school. I am currently playing Club Baseball for Furman University.
I would describe myself as an overachiever. I am not the fastest or strongest on the field, but I have a great eye in the batters box, allowing me to have on base percentages usually well above .500. In our first series of the season, I got up seven times and reached six times- two hits up the middle, two walks, and two hit-by-pitches.

I have a baseball story for you. From when I was 10 until I was 16, I was on losing baseball teams. But one year, when I was 13, my team was playing in this tournament that everyone made it (we went 2-14 that season or so). I had never won a championship. It was double elimination. We lost the first game, then rattled off three straight victories, one of which I pitched a complete game (seven innings). In the semifinal, I took the hill, and pitched four innings of one hit shut-out ball. We were up 8-0 when, completely out of the blue, the opposing coach informed the umpire that I pitched 11 innings that week- one more than I was allowed. I knew nothing of the rule, nor did my well-intentioned, yet naive coach. The opposing coach said he would not report us if I stopped pitching immediately. I did, and he went back on his word after we won via the ten run rule. I was devastated.

I currently play first base and designated hitter, as well as some left field.

I got my love for baseball from my Dad. I am going to the All-Star game with him this summer. I can't wait.

Favorite Baseball Team: PITTSBURGH PIRATES

Favorite non-baseball sport: golf

Favorite baseball players: Jason Bay, Jack Wilson, Roberto Clemente, Oliver Perez, Ichiro Suzuki, Honus Wagner, Josh Gibson, Stan Musial, Cal Ripken, Tony Gwynn, Ken Griffey, Jr

Current obsession: creating historical rosters for MVP Baseball 2005. I am trying to create an "all-time" franchises roster list. The Pirates are created and playing well.

SS Honus Wagner
RF Paul Waner
CF Roberto Clemente (I know! I know! But it was either put him there, or insert Lloyd Waner into the lineup, and that would have taken out one of the big bats.)
1B Willie Stargell
LF Ralph Kiner
3B Pie Traynor
C Jason Kendall
2B Bill Mazeroski
P -----

Favorite Movies: Eight Men Out, Boondock Saints, Fight Club, Gladiator, A Beautiful Mind, Saving Private Ryan, Major League I and II! (I think they are absolutely hilarious)

Favorite Band/ Album: Pearl Jam's "Ten"

Pet peeves: um...
1) I am kind of messy
2) I love honey mustard

Ok these aren't really pet peeves, that is, weird things that bother me. I will try to think of some. I do have a fear of bees (when I get stung I get really swollen. Don't know if I am allergic or not.

Great to be here! I might edit in more info later.


Murderers Row
04-12-2006, 10:56 PM
Name- Tony Aubry
Birthplace- New York,New York.
Age- 17

Diagnosed with an extremely rare case of mild cerebal palsy at birth.

I currently live my life for the New York Yankees.

Favorite Players- (current) Ken Griffey Jr, Mariano Rivera, Robinson Cano. (All time) Yogi Berra, Stan Musial, Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle, Rickey Henderson, Bob Feller, Ernie Lombardi

Favorite Football Team- Buffalo Bills.

Favorite Player- (Current) Eric Moulds (All Time) Earl Cambell, Larry Czonka, Andre Reed, Jim Brown, Johnny Unitas.

My Grandfather is my hero. If it wasn't for him, I simply wouldn't be the person I am today.
Tony's Official Opinions:

04-28-2006, 05:10 PM
Name: Alex
Age: 32
Tema, Ghana, 1973-74
Anglesee, Wales '74-76
Spokane, Wa. '76-'86
Ripley, W.Va. '86-'90
Puyallup, Wa. (suburb of Tacoma) '90-'91
USS Josephus Daniels CG-27, based in Norfolk, Va. '91-'93
San Ramon, Ca. '93-'00
Tulsa, Ok. '00-01
San Ramon, Ca. '01-present

Occupation: Radiology transcriptionist.
Schooling: Current history major at Cal State-East Bay.
Extracurriculars: Drummer for The Hands of Time (Food is my stage name).

Favorite team as a kid: Seattle Mariners and New York Yankees.
Favorite players as a kid: Dave Winfield, Dale Murphy, Dave Kingman, and Bud Bulling.

Baseball played as a kid: Just Little League, and I SUCKED!!!

Greatest moments playing baseball:
1. The one base hit I got in two seasons of playing.
2. Getting hit by pitch right in the gut with the bases loaded in the 5th (of 6) inning of a tie game. I sobbed my eyes out, then our pitcher set 'em down 1-2-3 in the 6th for the win.

Best homerun I ever saw: A spring training homer in '89 by Carlton Fisk that I swear went 400 feet in both dimensions.

Most dramatic moments at a game I attended: Opening Day at the Kingdome, 1986, M's vs. Angels. Jim Presley homers in the bottom of the ninth to tie it and homers in the tenth to win it.

World Series attended: None.
All-Star Games attended: 1988 in Cincinnati. It would be the last time I ever saw Dave Winfield play.

Favorite non-baseball team: San Jose Sharks and Tampa Bay Buccaneers (my grandma lived in Tampa and was really supportive of my music).

Nicest player I ever met: Dave Henderson.

Quirk that folks find unusual about me: I never watch movies or TV shows because they bore me.

05-19-2006, 05:17 PM
Name: Roger
Born: late 1950, raised about 12 miles outside of Boston.
High school, college, broadcasting school.
4 years in the USAF, 1970-74, Texas, Mississippi, the Philippines and Nebraska. LOVED the Philippines. Currently writing my memoirs on my "visit" there. Wish I could go back some day.

Have been working in the computer industry for the last 30 years, mostly as a programmer in one fashion or another.

Hobbies: Genealogy (15 years+); music (listening, appreciating, not performing)

Favorite ballplayers: Ted Williams, Jimmie Foxx, Mickey Mantle, Lu Clinton, Bob Tillman, Babe Ruth. (and many more)

Sports Background:
As a kid, I was awfully small for my age, wasn't really much of a player, but I played every chance I had until I hit my 30's. Then it was slow-pitch softball until injuries declared "no mas". Following little league, I could always hit for average, but never with power.

Best Baseball Memories:
1) First game at Fenway. I was 9, it was Ted's last year. July 1960. Ted didn't start, but he pinch hit once, grounded out to first. I have the retrosheet box score.

2) Lots of games at Fenway during the 60's. Fifty cents got me into the bleachers.

3) Watching reruns of the 2004 post season.

4) Finally visiting Cooperstown in 1995.

And I read a lot more posts here than I respond to.

05-19-2006, 07:26 PM
I was new when this started,so I never got to do it,so Ill do it now

Born: January 8th,1992
Born in:Middlesex County,Massachuets
Live in:still in Middlesex
Occupation:HS student
Hobbies:all sports,even the wierd ones:),Movies,TV,Video games,etc.,
First specfic baseball event I remember:Bunting during wiffleball on vacation around age 4(I've been bunting ever since:),and by now I'm pretty damn good at it )
Nicknames:Snake(because I'm always diving during games),Bunt Cake,Mr.Bunt(because..well..I bunt alot:))Added 7/10/06:People are now calling me C.T.D(short for crash test dummy) and Ichiro(my favorite player,apprently I play like him a little,It is a HUGE honor to be called by the same name as my role model)
Early baseball expriences: played t-ball,where I used to get frustrated and just run to first with groundballs because I was one of the few kids who could catch:).Little League were some of the best moments of my life,still play Babe Ruth today.I'm an average player overall with no power,ok contact, good speed and good fielding and of course,great bunting:).

Greatest baseball expriences:
1)Added:7/10/06:I layed a perfect drag bunt down the 3rd base line, stole 2nd, and then scored the game winning run in a Babe Ruth district quarter-final game on a hit to the outfield. The proudest moment of my life.It brought me to tears. I live for this.:D
2)Walking into Fenway the first time,simply memorizing.
3)getting a hit during my final at bat of my little league career.Almost brought me to tears.

Worst baseball expreince:
1)I had always been on the worse team in the league my whole career,and we finnaly made it to the semi-finals,where we were ONE STRIKE from the championship.I was playing first,and clearly saw the kid swing.We all started to celebrate,when the ump made the call that it was a check swing.Till this day I know he swung.Let's just say things with the coaches and umps got ugly after that.

Movie:Forrest Gump,Pulp Fiction
Baseball Movie:Field of Dreams

TV show:Scrubs, Baseball Tonight, TWIB,etc..,

Book:Stones in Water(Its about a group of Italian boys who get kidnapped by Nazis during WW2 and transported to eastern europe,where one of them makes his way all the way back to Venice.Amazing,loosely based on truth story.)

Favorite Current Players:Ichiro,David Ortiz,Roy Halliday,Dontrele Willis,Manny Ramierz,Jason Varitek,Derrick Lee....

Past:Cobb,Ruth,Mays,Ozzie Smith,Clemente,Wagner,Walter Johnson,Gehrig,Ted Williams,Yaz,Pesky....

Pet Peeves:
1)Bad umpires,of course:D
2)People who are terrified of a certin area of towns or cities,like the second they walk in thier they think thell be killed.A lot of the time that isint the case,and its sorta rasict.
3) New England Yankee fans who have no connection to NewYork but do it to try to be cool,because they like the hat and/or to try to be a rebel.Half of them can't name 3 yankees,it really bugs me.

Favorite other sports:Golf,football,soccer,basketball,rugby,obsti cal courses,dodgeball,tennis.....

05-20-2006, 12:31 AM
Dennis Wayne Jones
Age 49
Born Ithaca, New York May 14, 1957
Graduated Smithtown High School West, Smithtown, NY,1975
San Diego City College, San Diego, CA,2002
Currently lives in San Diego
Past residences:
Ithaca, NY-57-59
Richmond, VA 59-67
Smithtown, NY 67-80
San Diego since 80
Favorite team-Yankees
Favorite NL team-Padres
Other favorite sports teams-NY Giants, Knicks, Islanders
Favorite player(active)- Derek Jeter
Favorite player(all time)Mickey Mantle
Favorite all time sports moment-First trip to Yankee stadium, May 14, 1967. A 10 year old birthday boy sees Mantle hit his 500th homer.
Curent Occupation-Alcohol and drug Counselor.
Favorite Movie-Gone With The Wind
Favorite Sports movie-Pride of the Yankees
Favorite all time tv show- All in the Family
Favorite Ballpark- Is there any other, Yankee Stadium.
Favorite new ballpark-Petco Park, but I hate that name. Corporat naming of ballparks is stupid.
Least favorite teams- Red Sox, Dodgers, Redskins, Cowboys, Flyers
Favorite non baseball sports moment- Watching Secretariat win the Triple Crown. He was an absolutely amazing horse.
Meaning of screen name- I do not drink.
hobbies-Reading, Movies, Computer games and chat rooms. trivia of all kinds. I particularly like baseball trivia.
I guess that covers everything I can think of.

05-23-2006, 09:21 AM
Yankillaz (The nick is a Yankee Hater thing i got going)

Full Name: Victor Manuel Quinones Mateo
Birthyear: August 12, 1981
Birthplace: Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
Actual Residence: santo Domingo
Occupation: Civil Engineer
Marital Status: Commited

05-25-2006, 06:22 AM
Name: George N. Robertson, Jr., go by middle name Neal
DOB: October 31, 1950 (Yes, Halloween!)
Born and reside in Bessemer, AL, suburb of Birmingham

Graduate of University of Alabama-Birmingham (UAB)
B.A. in History with English minor 1973

Religion: Presbyterian (PCUSA)

Divorced, one son, George N. Robertson, III, an electrical engineer and Auburn University graduate.

Hobbies: early 20th century American history (circa 1910-1935) baseball history (20th century), collecting old newspapers, magazines and college yearbooks.

I am the live in guardian of my two wonderful parents, George and Cissy Robertson, who will celebrate their
65th wedding anniversary on July 5. A real pleasure to be able to be with them!

Favorite TV shows: NCIS, Cold Case; Old: Gunsmoke, The Untouchables
Favorite Movies: The Big Lebowski, Dodgeball, Office Space; Old: Grand Hotel, Stagecoach, On The Waterfront
Favorite Music: Rock and Roll, Blues, Ragtime, 1920s jazz, some classical, marches, soul, big band

Favorite baseball team: Birmingham Barons; Majors: White Sox, Cubs, Tigers and Cardinals. Also big fan of the one and only Brooklyn Dodgers (not L.A.!) and St. Louis Browns.

Favorite baseball people: Max Carey, Kiki Cuyler, Bob Gibson, Birdie Tebbetts, Charlie Dressen, Jackie Robinson, Luke Sewell, Lefty O'Doul, Tony Lazzeri, Charlie Grimm, Albert Pujols, Mike Piazza, Al Lopez, Edd Roush, Bill Veeck, Harold Parrott, Gil Hodges, Moose Skowron, Augie Galan, Rocky Colavito, Pee Wee Reese,
Fred Hutchinson, Willie Mays, Willie McCovey, Frank Thomas (Big Hurt), Pie Traynor, Tom Glavine, Hank Greenberg, Mark Koenig, Branch Rickey, Lefty Gomez, Vince Dimaggio, Alvin "General" Crowder, Yogi Berra,
Dick Groat, Johnny Podres, Pedro Martinez, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Mel Ott, Paul Richards, Hoyt Wilhelm, Carl Furillo, Bill Terry, Waite Hoyt, among others.

Favorite sports movies: 1977 Lou Gehrig tv movie with Edward Herrman and Blythe Danner; 1991 Babe Ruth tv movie with Stephen Lang; The Winning Team with Ronald Reagan and Doris Day; Cinderella Man;
The Greatest Game Ever Played; Eight Men Out; Madison Square Garden (1932 movie with Jack Oakie); It Happens Every Spring with Ray Milland and Paul Douglas.

Favorite historical figures: H.L. Mencken, Westbrook Pegler, John Dos Passos, James T. Farrell, Sinclair Lewis, Senator Burton K. Wheeler (D-Montana), Senator James Wadsworth (R-New York), both Senators Robert LaFollette (R-Wisconsin), Senator James A. Reed (D-Missouri), Oswald Garrison Villard, Colonel Robert R. McCormick, Albert Jay Nock, Edgar Masters, G.K. Chesterton, George Bernard Shaw, H.G. Wells.

Bill Burgess
05-25-2006, 08:08 PM
Pet Peeves:

Bill Burgess:

1. Price of ink cartridges for my printer are $32. new. Refills kits only last weeks.
2. Price of high-speed connections to the internet. I pay $46./mo. Absurd.
3. ATM's only give out money in $20. denominations. Wish it were $10.
4. Fast Food chains which don't accept credit/debit cards.
5. Friends who always choose the other person, in call-waiting situations.
6. My computer media player won't let me create a queue for my music.
7. TV/movies which make adults appear like dim-witted idiots. Home alone? Married With Children?
8. Anyone who doesn't practice road etiquette/courtesy.
9. Baseball-Fever presently doesn't accept Excel files.
10. Baseball Fever search function doesn't go far enough back.
11. Women claim that looks are not primary, and personality comes first. Wish they really meant it, and acted that way.
12. Women with weight issues going on TV, and insisting how 'ghetto-fabulous' they are. NOT!! Makes me puke.
13. Tabloid TV shows like Jerry Springer, Maury Povich. Trash. Should get dumped like Rickey Lake, Jenny.
14. Judge Judy: Always bragging how smart she is. Judges should be less rude, more modest, less emotional. Like Judge Alex, or Judge Marilyn Milian from People's Court.

Product Placement in TV reality shows. Examples:
1. Who Wants To Be A Millionaire (Regis Philbin) - He says, "Our friends at ATT will connect you now."
2. American Idol - Big Coca Cola drinks in front of the judges. And Ryan Seacrest constantly informing us how to use "text messaging".
3. Extreme Makeover Home Edition - Ty Pennington constantly telling us that everything comes from Sears.

These shows feel like one huge infomercial to me.
Ok, here's what's driving me nuts....COMMERCIALS...tv, radio, at ballgames, at movies, not to mention annoying pop-ups on my favorite web-site [HINT,HINT, BBF] I mean I could accept in the old days, watching or listening to a baseball game, there would be a minute break between innings, then back to the game and Harry Caray or Jack Buck would do a few ad-lib mentions about popping open a cold Busch or Bud, but now every single event has a sponsor tie-in, such as someone going out to visit the pitcher, or an argument with an ump, or bringing in someone from the bullpen. Not to mention all the various clutter that's shoved on the screen. In this day of the internet, do we really need the crawler on the bottom of the screen giving us every possible score? How about watching football, a team scores, kicks the PAT, then 3 minutes of commercials, kickoff [usually a touchback] 3 more minutes of commercials. I've got news for these marketing genuises,WE HAVE REMOTES!! only a brain-dead zombie would sit and pay attention to the endless ads for autos, cellphones and fast foods. Oh yeah, plus continous promos for all these new series coming up on Fox, CBS, etc.

On regular tv viewing, spend a lot of time with TCM and FMC, no commercials, which is why I rarely watch AMC anymore. Plus I subscribe to HBO and Cinemax, very same reason. Because I spend I bit of time driving during the week, got the XM sattelite radio, no ads on the music channels.

How about ads they run at ballgames? At the Rams ugly dome, they blast these things over the PA. The cheerleaders stand at solemn attention, as if they were doing the national anthem.
Catcher24 had these offerings:

Pet peeves:
1. Ugly women who wear t-shirts that proclaim "I'm Cute".
2. Beautiful women who insist on defacing their bodies with tattoos.
3. Beautiful women who love....other women.
4. Baseball broadcasters who insist on talking as if their listeners were born yesterday, and were born retarded to boot.
5. Drivers who think that traffic laws were enacted only for all other drivers, and don't apply to themselves.
6. BBF posters who think Cobb was better than Mays or Ruth (JUST KIDDING, BILL!!)

This is a very quick list. If I took a little more time, I could go on for pages, I'm sure.
Captain Cold Nose:
Pet peeves, eh?
Discourteous drivers are my biggest pet peeve. All the states I have driven to seem to have one particualr bad habit that stands out, although bad driving is everywhere. Tailgating to failure to use a turn signal to stopping to turn right or moving halfway into the right lane while turning left.
I cringe when I hear someone say anyways. No such word. And a lot is two words, not the combined alot.

Tonjes offers these Pet Peeves:

1. handicapped drivers. you may have some sort of physical hindrance, but your arms work, your brain functions, you can apply pressure to a pedal, what's the problem? why do you have to drive 35 in a 40?
2. the NBA. thugs have completely hijacked this once great league and have turned it into a street ball circus. thank god for Tim Duncan.
3. feminists. i am woman, hear me roar. enough said.
4. hostile Cobbie and royal fans. bitterness won't get you anywhere.
5. bbf isn't compatible with mozilla.
6. FM radio. we don't have any good music stations in st. Louis. i can't believe people like this linkin park and breaking Benjamin crap.
7. Katie Couric. little chicken hawk.
8. poor spelling. it drives me insane. I'm embarrassed to say this, but i have friends who are seniors in college that consistently make mistakes like spelling out I'll as "all" and "ussume" as assume. (of course, i probably have a few spelling mistakes in this post now that I've put this down.)
9. espn's baseball coverage. why don't they just rename sportscenter Yankees/red sox highlights?
10. fat people who sit around feeling sorry for themselves.
11. stinky feet.
12. snoring.
13. people who refuse to have a drink with you. ZzZzZz. I'm not talking about people who have legitimate reasons, ie drinking problems. I'm talking about mollycoddles. also, having a drink does not mean drinking to excess. relax a little, have a drink, and enjoy life.
14. small tippers.
15. hack comedians. Paul reiser, tom Arnold, Harold ramis, Howie Mandel, ant, Paula poundstone, etc.
16. Christian pop/rock music. i hear some emergency rooms are now using certain songs to induce vomiting in kids who have ingested household cleaners.
17. college-aged political activists. why does everything leave you so d*MN "outraged"? and please, hardly anyone takes your insignificant protests seriously.
18. over-the-top new York accents. just plain obnoxious.
19. drivers who sit in the fast lane and refuse to let you pass.
20. men who go to tanning salons. most people assume these guys are homosexual, and that's unfair to homosexuals.
21. people who chew with their mouth open.
22. dogs that lick. disgusting.
23. Texans. relax a little down there.
24. excessively flying the flag at half staff. this should be done rarely, yet it seems like we're doing this all the time. we need to be more selective.
25. men who frequent strip clubs.
sanctimonious people. People who think their opinions are better than everyone else's.
Slow Drivers.
loud kids/screaming babies.
Extreme Negativity
Julusnc on Pet Peeves::
Pet Peeves -

Mother's that leave their kids in the car while they go into the Walmart to get a case of beer for their boyfriends.
People that drive while talking on cell phones.
Doctors that have no bedside manner.
People that complain I am late when they know I always get the job done before they ever could.
People that are lost when it comes to politics.
People that can not learn the English when coming to this country to make it their home.
Baseball players that complain they are underpaid when they make more in one at bat than the average person makes for a full year of work.
School teachers that complain they work too hard when they really only work six months out of the year.
People that show no respect towards the elderly.
College baseball and metal bats.
Wasted money on Major League Baseball draft picks.
Lawyers that think they know everything.
Dodger fans.
and People that just don't understand a man that won 90 games as a starting pitcher and also hit 714 home runs is better than a Georgia Peach
Here are my pet-peeves
When my catcher gets mad and only put's down that finger
Yankee Fans
Ty Cobb
Marty Brennamen saying "speed" (alright it is funny)
People who underrate Game 7 of the 1975 World Series(poor Jim Burton, it was a good pitch)
Walmart in general
When the opposing pitcher has better hair than I do.
When the cop who gave me a ticket for driving while talking on my cell phone is seen 15 miles later talking on his cellphone
That Mike Piazza keeps making all-star teams
The fact he(Piazza) think he's a Johnny Bench or Jim Sundberg.
That my girlfriend uses Sex and the City as a barometer as how to behave in our relationship.
The fact the no one ever talks about Denny McLain.
The odds of Jim Kaat ever making the Hall of Fame.
The fact that there are no more good nicknames.
That Relief Pitchers never use cool intro music anymore when they come into the game, well Royce Ring uses "Sad but True" by Metallica(I think....)
Tony (West Coast Orange and Black:
a quick dozen pet peeves

the deception by the current administration
the destruction by the current administration
the ineffectiveness of the current administration
the blindness of the current administration
the distortion by the current administration

the willingness to accept only what is offered
the unwillingness to not listen to one’s heart
apathy insensitivity intolerance lying meanness selfishness
when fans move about the aisle during an at-bat
that Audrey tautou is not my next-door neighbor -- see pic
the price of a good cappuccino
that there are but 24 hours in a day
People who drive slow in the fastlane
Peter Angelos
When people assume I don't know about sports because I'm female.
middle seats on airplanes
when people talk during movies
players who don't run it out on a grounder to short
Erik Bedard:
People reading what I'm typing on the computer
Idiots, Jerks, Morons
Refrigerated ketchup, people that go to the bathroom and never flush, really big hypocrites, obnoxious people, jerks. Bumper stickers that say War IS Terrorism.
Yanks winning the AL East, Bosox tix being so hard to get
Pete Rose Rounding Third:
People who never leave their ideological hole no matter how wrong their group is on a particular issue.
People who think the other side (Democrats, Republicans, Conservatives, Liberals) is actually evil.
The supposed tolerance of liberals who never hesitate to call those in opposition to them racists, sexists, homophobes.
The movement to suppress the opinions of those who challenge the global warming crowd. The debate is not over, folks.
People who admire themselves excessively and as a result do not recognize when they are wrong.
Huntington Avenue:
Republicans, Democrats, Socialists and Communists, Anarchists, Fascists, Abusers of Capitalism, Welfare, lack of Health Care, reliance on flashy yet ineffectual gov't programs, Modern Prohibition (War on Drugs), smoking and drinking of any kind, abortion but not abortion rights, gun ownership but not gun ownership rights.
---Baseball and politics mixing,
---people talking on cellphones REAL LOUD on commuter trains especially,
killing off movie characters in the Star Wars expanded universe (when they killed Chewbacca in Vector Prime, I stopped reading the stuff, and have followed it with bleak acceptance since then),
---epithets directed at me or my (inevitably East Asian or Southeast Asian) girlfriend
---and/or that I'm somehow "abnormal" (or worse...a few Asian guys have accused me of "stealing their women," though most have been just fine) because I only go out with and am attracted to East Asian and Southeast Asian women.
---Also that my room is a mess. It is NOT a mess. I literally know where everything is, Mom and Dad, but I'm organizing it MY way. Does it matter if it's on the floor? You're never even in here!
People blocking doorways. People who don't get when people are joking. Irish people who wear Yankees merchandise (because they rarely actually even know what sport they play).

Bill Burgess
05-25-2006, 08:11 PM
We did rock music and I was found to be somewhat out of sync with some of the younger members. So I would like a rematch - in something of a different theater. This time - TV character actors.

I am offering my Top 8 of my Favorite TV characters actors. Let's see if the young folks can offer a better quality roster of GREAT TV Character Actors.

1. Fred/Ethel Mertz - I Love Lucy - William Frawley/Vivian Vance - 1950's.
2. Festus Haggen - Gunsmoke - Ken Curtis - 1964-1975
3. Barney Fife - Andy Griffith Show/Andy of Mayberry - Don Knotts - 1960-65
4. Eddie Haskel - Leave It To Beaver - Ken Osmond - 1957-63
5. Maynard G. Krebs - Many Loves of Dobie Gillis - Bob Denver - 1959-63
6. Ed Norton - Honeymooners - Art Carney - 1955-71
7. Dr. Zachary Smith - Lost In Space - Jonathan Harris - 1965-68
8. Cosmos Kramer - Seinfeld - Michael Richards -1990-98

Honorable Mentions: Several from Andy Griffith Show.
Gomer Pyle (Jim Nabors), Aunt Bea Taylor (Frances Bavier), Floyd Lawson (Howard McNear), Goober Pyle (George Lindsey),

also Lumpy Rutherford (Leave It To Beaver) - Frank Bank
Maude (Bea Arthur)
Sultan_11895-1948 tossed this in:

I'll give it a shot Bill

1. Norm - Cheers
2. Swearingin - Deadwood
3. Turtle and Drama - Entourage
4. Al Bundy - Married with Children
5. Alan Shore - Boston Legal
6. McNulty - The Wire
7. Fred Dryer - Hunter
8. Jason Alexander - Seinfeld
9. Chris Farley - Saturday Night Live
10. Kenny - Southpark

Honorable mention to : Every spokesmodel ever on Starsearch, Alf, and Screech
Bill further threw this in:

I'll help you guys out. Here are some oldies but goodies to troll through.

Form Chart:

Brady Bunch, Partridge Family, Donna Reed, My 3 Sons, Dennis the Menace, Happy Days, Beverly Hillbillies, My Little Margie, Father Knows Best, Amos and Andy, Green Acres, Danny Thomas Show, The Real McCoys, Dick Van Dyke Show, Petticoat Junction, My Favorite Martian, Patty Duke, Bewitched, Gomer Pyle, Munsters, Adams Family, Gilligan's Island, Hogan's Heroes, Get Smart, Maude, Bob Newhart, Good Times, Jeffersons, Mash, Mary Tyler Moore Show, Laverne & Shirley, Life of Riley, Cybil, Murphy Brown, Fraser, Home Improvement, John Larroquette, Car 54, Taxi, Night Court, Cheers, Friends, Mad About You, Odd Couple, All In the Family, Ozzie & Harriet, Howdie Doody, Golden Girls, I Love Lucy (3 incarnations), Margie, Desperate Housewives, LA Law, Hillstreet Blues, Matlock, Perry Mason, Rockford, Magnum PI, Columbo, Barnaby Jones, Hawaiian Eye, Hawaii Five-O, Murder She Wrote, Lassie, 77 Sunset Strip, Have Gun - Will Travel, Rifleman, Wyatt Earp, Cheyenne, Wagon Train, Sugarfoot, Maverick, Bonanza, Hopalong Cassidy, Roy Rodgers, Lone Ranger, Bat Masterson, Waltons, Little House on Praire, Family, 8 Is Enough, Charlie's Angels, Picket Fences, Sea Hunt, Sky King, Rama of the Jungle, Sopranos, Northern Exposure, Barney Miller, Star Trek, Marcus Welby, M.D., Family Affair.

Soap Operas -
The Guiding Light, radio, 1937, TV, 1952-present
As the World Turns, 1956-present
The Edge of Night, 1956-84, defunct
Search For Tomorrow, 1951-86, defunct

Present Soap Operas-
All My Children, 1970-present,
Days of Our Lives, 1965
Santa Barbara, Jul. 30, 1984-Jan. 15, 1993,
General Hospital, 1963,
One Life To Live, Bold & the Beautiful, Young & Restless, Loving, Another World,

Evening Soap Operas - Dallas, Dynasty, Knots Landing, Melrose Place
KHenry14 contributed this jewel:

OK Bill, I'll bite...

1) Eddie Haskell--Leave it to Beaver--Ken Osmond was terrific
2) Woody--Cheers--Woody Harrelson wont ever do anything better
3) Niles--Frasier--David Hyde Pearce was outstanding
4) Mike Stivic-All in the Family--Rob Reiner was a great foil for Carroll O'Connor
5) Fred and Ethel--nuff sed
6) Barney Fife--Don Knotts owned the screen when he was on
7) Bob Newhart--playing himself was never funnier...twice!
8) Jack Tripper--John Ritter--completely underrated, he was "3's Company"

Just missing the cut are Valerie Harper, Julie Kavner, Ted Knight, Alan Alda, Bob Crane, Michael J. Fox,
ShoelessJoe3 contributed this one:
Let me think this over.....but in the mean time, one of my favorites, Ted Knight, Mary Tyler Moore show. And for some physical type humor, a guy who had me laughing till tears came to my eyes, Tim Conway... the old man bit, brilliant, much of it off the cuff, not all rehearsed.
Captain Cold Nose:
How could anyone forget Nicholas Colasanto as Coach? Many shows had it set where there were four major characters, and the rest were support. In terms of supporting characters of the main stars, Coach was an all-time great.
You mentioned Green Acres, Bill. Can you imagine what the show would have been like without the incredible supporting cast for the two big stars? I never noticed it until the show started to rerun on TV land, but it seemed Eddie Albert never finished his sentences on the show.
janduscframe contributed this one.

Festus,Fred and Fife make my list too. I'll also add Furley played by Knotts on Three's Company. (Is there something about F's?)

Also Coach on Cheers,Ted Knight on MTM. I also liked the double takes that Doc Adams would do when Festus said something dumb.

All time favorite hands down is I forget.. Oh wait Hank.. is it Hank? well actually it WAS Hank .. Hank Kimball of Green Acres. Well they weren't really green. Especially after a drought. They were acres though. Well, not really acres. Or I suppose after they'd been working in the fields all day they were achers... Oh wait I meant acres... Oh boy..

Hank Kimball of Green Acres.

"Oh, the horror, the horror. They are hitting the ground like sacks of wet cement!"
Lew contributed this one:
Oh my gosh, Mac, I'm sitting here laughing again! I think that was about the funniest episode of ANY sitcom I ever saw. I couldn't stop laughing for an hour! "How was I supposed to know that commercial turkeys can't fly?"

Bill, you have presented what is finally an insurmountable challenge to me! Too many favorites in those old shows to count! And with all of the programs you mentioned, you left out two of my all time favorites - Gunsmoke and The Wonder Years! All of yours are good. I can list some shows and characters, but I'm not too great with the actual actors' names. Let's see.....
Spock in Star Trek (Leonard Nimoy)
Major Healy in I Dream of Jeannie (Can't remember the actor) [Capt. Roger Healey (Bill Daily)] - Nobody that dumb could ever really be an astronaut
Chester in Gunsmoke (Dennis Weaver - Was later a marshall or something in New York City in another show [McCloud, 1970-77] ) - a truly dedicated sidekick.
Tonto in The Lone Ranger (Jay Silverheels, I think) - Another truly dedicated sidekick. Bill Cosby's routine on Lone Ranger/Tonto is hilarious.
Bailey Quarters on WKRP in Cincinnati (Jan Smithers)- I always thought she was better looking than Loni Anderson, the main female character.
Fonzie on Happy Days (Henry Winkler)
Johnny Caravella (Dr. Johnny Fever) on WKRP in Cincinnati (Howard Hesseman) - He could say "booger" at WKRP
BJ Hunnicutt on MASH (Mike Farrell) - Yet another great sidekick, and excellent surgeon.

Dozens more, Bill. And thanks for stirring up a LOT of great memories.
Bill responded thusly.

Part of why I started this thread is because I wanted to create something that would give us all a better sense of being a real community. And by knowing even a little bit about each other, we can debate baseball better, and feel good about spending so much time on this site.

Let's see, this little form of "Jeopardy" has so far included: rock music, pet peeves, TV character actors.
Mordeci contributed this one.

Thanks for that. It's rare when a single line can make you involuntarily laugh out loud. I always thought wkrp was over-rated, but that one episode is among of the funniest in sitcom history.

"As god is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly."

I have to admit that I like animated shows. The Simpsons is my favorite show of all time, and South Park is in my top 5. They both are very broad and cartoonish (sorry, couldn't think of a better word) on the surface, but have moments of very subtle, intelligent humor and insight. Family Guy is a fairly humorous show punctuated by occasional moments of hilarity.
Dave Garza:
It's quite possible that all the best TV characters now days are animated.
Bill to Dave:
Name 'em! You stuck your head in the noose!

1. Bart Simpson
2. Ziggy & Lilo?
Four Tool:

Sponge Bob Square Pants
Bullwinkle the Moose
The Prisoner
Hawkeye Pierce
Ralph Kramden
Lucille Ball
CJ on West Wing-

Here are some of my favorite television characters:

Tim Taylor: Home Improvement
Ralph Furley: Three's Company
The Fonz: Happy Days
Norm: Cheers
Cliff Claven: Cheers
Lamont Sanford: Sanford and Son
Archie Bunker: All in the Family
Ralph Kramden: Honeymooners
Rob Petrie: Dick Van Dyke Show
Hawkeye Pierce: M.A.S.H
Gilligan: Gilligan's Island
Jack Tripper: Three's Company
Ed Bundy: Married with Children

Bill Burgess
05-25-2006, 08:14 PM
1. Why Did Rock Have to Die? Why did Rock peak and decline as an artform?

I grew up in the 1960's, and looking back, enjoyed an amazing musical smörgåsbord, in terms of the width / breath of rock. Today, it seems to me that the kids are getting short-changed in what is being offered them via radio. And it's such a shame. Rock music can be such a beautiful artform. Why did rock peak, decline?

Looking back, it seems as if Rock Music peaked from 1967-73, ran on fumes until 1980, and since then, has lacked the overwhelming width / breath of the music that had come before. While it is clearly understood that there will always be music under the title, "Rock", there are times when it is much more dynamic. My premise is that since 1980, Rock Music has never regained the width / breath / depth / quality of what preceded it. So I will try to give a few reasons why, behind the scenes of some of the dynamics of what caused the ebbs & flows.

2. 1950's: Early Pioneers, Doo Wop, Novelty Songs & Dance Crazes:
In the 50's, there were the early American pioneers. Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, Fats Domino, Everly Brothers, Bill Haley, Jerry Lee Lewis. And countless doo-wop harmony groups, many of whom were black. They held sway throughout the 1950's. Late 50's early 60's, novelty songs like Purple People Eater, Itsy Bitsy Bikini, Who Put the Bomp, Please Mr. Custer, etc. appeared. Many of the songs that were not novelty songs, were attempting to introduce new dance crazes. The Olympics, Coasters rode this wave for several years. Up to around 1964, the sounds were not too diversified. Doo wop was heavily formulized, and pretty narrow in its structure. In the early 60's, a few of the songs that were used to introduce new dance crazes were: The Twist, The Stroll, Bristol Stomp, Mashed Potato, The Pony, Fly, Watusi & The 81. In fact, all through the 60's, songs were used that way. The Horse, Funky Broadway, Hitch-Hike, Loco-Motion, Crossfire, Monkey, Fly, Freddy, Hully Gully, Limbo, Philly Dog, Philly Walk, Shing-A-Ling, Boog-A-Loo, Slop, Swim, Tighten Up, & Jerk.

From 1958-63, one of the most dynamic hotbeds of rock music existed in a NYC high-rise called The Brill Building, located at 1619 Broadway, at 50th St. - and Don Kirschner assembled, in a suit of rooms, a stable of young song-writers, almost all young Jewish kids from Brooklyn. They paired up with partners, and cut loose on the rock music business. They made history in a big way.

Carol King/Gerry Goffin, Jerry Lieber/Mike Stoller, Barry Mann/Cynthia Weil, Jeff Barry/Ellie Greenwich, PF Sloan/Steve Barri, Howie Greenfield/Neil Sedacka and Phil Spector. Mort Shuman/Doc Pomus were a similar song-writing team in Philadelphia. These kids took new talent, and fortified with with their formidable writing/arranging/producing support, turned out hit after hit, as clock-work in an industrial assembly line. They all became famous in their day, if not rich enough to retire.

Dick Clark hosted his teenage TV dance show, American Bandstand, 1956-89, but moved it from Philadelphia to Los Angeles, February 8, 1964. From the looks of the LA teen dancers, Clark would have done much better to keep his show in Philly or move to NYC. Much better dancers there for a TV show. More rock-dance freaks.

4. 1964: The Beatles & The British Invasion:
It took the Beatles to blow up the structure and widen the scope of what was heard. The Beatles took Britain in 1963, and America in 1964. Millions remember that famous Sunday, February 9, 1964, when the Beatles were featured on the Ed Sullivan Show. And right behind them, came a lot of other British acts, once The Beatles established a beachhead. The Dave Clark 5, Rolling Stones, Herman's Hermits, Animals, Gerry & The Pacemakers, Kinks, Peter & Gordon, Chad & Jeremy, Moody Blues, Billy J. Kramer & The Dakotas, The Who, Petula Clark, Donovan, The Searchers, The Hollies, Spencer Davis Group, Led Zeplin, Dusty Springfield, Lulu, David Bowie all followed The Beatles to America.

At first, the music caused a hysteria among the juvenile listeners. The new "Big Beat" energized audiences to scream so much that they drowned out the music in concerts. And the new heavy beat legitimized different sounds from doo wop, whose structure had previously been so stifling to more innovative music writing.

By December, 1965, the newness of the Beatles, and their copy-cats, had blended into the desolate, badlands of the rock landscape. The chord structures were basic, and needed something to jolt them forward. This new impetus was probably the dabbling into drugs by The Beatles and others. Starting with Rubber Soul (December, 1965), the Beatles began an exciting new evolution into more interesting directions. To their fans, The Beatles were so much more than a rock band. They were a vehicle for growth in awareness for an entire generation. The beginning of the end for The Beatles was the sudden suicide death of their manager, Brian Epstein on August 27, 1967. Mr. Epstein had been a young, Jewish, gay musical impresario/entrepreneur who had been mostly in classical/popular musical genres. Without his steady hand on the financial till, all chaos broke out for them. Within 2 years, they were gone, amid a flurry of lawsuits.

At first, in 1964, The Beatles & the other British bands caught the American pop music world by surprise. There were just so many bands following in the Beatles wake. But the American bands were not taken aback for long. Watching Beatles' concerts with the girls going nuts in "Beatlemania", must have been a jolt. The American response wouldn't take long, and it would be overwhelming.

Led by Motown, American musicians were at once in love and admiration of the Beatles, but at the same time, determined to either be like them, or inspired to do their own thing. From all points of the compass, young American kids mobilized to meet the English bands on equal terms.

From Minneapolis, 19 yr. old Robert Zimmerman (Bob Dylan) arrived in NYC in January, 1961. Brian Wilson (Beach Boys) started in Hawthorn, CA, in 1962 to write music for the Beach Boys. Smokey Robinson (Miracles) came out of Detroit, met Berry Gordy in 1957, bonded as brothers, and was the first to join Berry, when he founded Motown December 14, 1959. John Sebastian (Lovin' Spoonful), Roger McQuinn (Byrds), John Phillips (Mama's & Papas), John Fogerty (Creedence Clearwater Revival), Phil Spector, John Denver, Paul Simon (Simon & Garfunkel), Gamble / Huff (Intruders), Curtis Mayfield (Impressions), Bob Gaudio (4 Seasons), Richard Carpenter (Carpenters), Sonny Bono (Sonny & Cher), Neil Diamond, Norman Whitfield (Temptations), Felix Cavaliere (Young Rascals), Laura Nyro (5th Dimension) & Holland/Dozier/Holland (Supremes/4 Tops/Martha & Vandellas) were but a few of the creative song writers who rose to the occasion in the mid-60's.

There was an awful lot of musicians moving in and out of bands, like musical chairs. Creative minds that created Buffalo Springfield, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young and Poco made a huge amount of innovative, good music.

The Rock Music they created & offered the pop culture of the world has never before or since be remotely duplicated. British invasion groups, girl groups, Motown, Philly soul, Memphis soul, heavy-duty funk, West Coast surfer/cars songs, urban rock, folk rock, large rock orchestras like Chicago, Santana, Blood, Sweet & Tears, Moody Blues, bubble gum, rock flavored with country, blues, etc. were the musical banquet that the world's young people feasted on.

The American kids showed that they were not about to be muscled off the charts by bands from Britain. American bands & America's young genius' prepared for a long siege. From 1964-68, the American/British airwaves were an Iwo Jima of bitterly contested Top 100 charts. Like trench warfare, neither side was giving any ground. From across the Atlantic Ocean, both British & American bands fired hit after hit at each other. And the kids swooned and danced. At dance clubs, HS/college dances, hip DJs sponsored big dance hop events. Philly's Wagner's, Chez-Vous, at NYC's Cheetah, Pep McGuires, Trude Heller's. In NYC, clubs adopted the names of the days of the week, Friday's, Wednesday's, Tuesday's. Competition for customers was so fierce in the big cities' better dance clubs, that the more competitive dance clubs hired alternating live bands. Up until 1972, the best dance clubs featured 2 live bands, which rotated after 45 minute sets.

And the world enjoyed a Horn of Plenty of musical glory which it hasn't seen since. The kids of the world feasted. Detroit, Philly, Memphis, LA, San Francisco all became hotbeds of rock activity. It was the Golden Age, both for British bands and their American rivals alike. All benefited from the healthy competition. All manner of musical expression flourished. Countless bands enjoyed their golden periods of hits galore. It was a time of genius and a time of plenty. There was room on the charts for everybody, every flavor, category, genre of rock was explored and welcomed by the insatiable record-buying American, British, and world's kids. Dance shows proliferated. American Bandstand, Soul Train, Summertime at The Pier, Jerry Blavat, Lloyd Thaxton, etc. Clubs had to have rock bands to compete. Some 2 at a time. TV shows like Hulla-Buloo, Laugh-In, Shin-Dig, the Ed Sullivan Show, Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour, the Smothers Brothers Show all milked rock music for all its worth.

And all that work in dance clubs, fed into the infrastructure of making the music scene better. Bands improved, found their "sound", got tight. It was heaven on earth, and good to be alive as a rock musician in the 60's.

Brian Wilson, guiding light of the Beach Boys, also yearned to go where no rock had went before. His Good Vibrations, and Pet Sounds (May, 1966) hit new heights for rock music. It crossed the borders of orthodox rock into experimental rock, as did the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper (June, 1967), and new material by the Moody Blues. Brian not only wrote the music for the Beach Boys, but he arranged, produced and sang the high parts. Initially, he toured with them, and played electric bass. As a writer, he preferred to use the piano. In addition to all of this, new bands were forging the early Hard Rock category. Iron Butterfly, Black Sabbath, Led Zeplin, Steppenwolf, Cream, Jimmy Hendricks, Traffic, James Gang, Grand Funk Railroad, Jethro Tull, Genesis, The Who and many dozens more were finding their audiences.

Eventually, such bands as the following showed just how diverse hard rock could become. Sex Pistols, Kiss, Black Sabbath, Metallica, Nirvana, Eric Clapton, Guns and Roses, AC/DC, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Motley Crew, The Smashing Pumpkins, Kid Rock, Clash, Areosmith, Van Halen, Chris Cornell, Alice in Chains, Megadeth, Godsmack, Pantera, Queensryche, Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Soundgarden, Disturbed were just a few of the hard rock/metal band category. Some listeners refused to dignify some of the emerging metal bands as music at all, and called it garbage and noise.

One of the indications of just how richly-varied the 60's were was that often when a group made a hit, a new category of rock had to be named. And often the name was not too significant. Groups with unique sounds were: Procol Harem, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. Their sound was virtually indefinable. Truly innovative rock music has always defied easy categorization. Sgt. Pepper, Rubber Soul, Revolver, Abbey Road, Pet Sounds, Brian Wilson's Smile, What's Goin' On have all resisted easy labels. Others such as Prince, Laurie Anderson, Buffalo Springfield, Poco, The Band have likewise been more original than derivative. The Springfield & Poco were said, at the time, to be country rock, but no country groups had ever sounded remotely like them before. Country flavored perhaps, but still a new blend.

At the peak of its glory, Rock Music produced such diverse masterpieces as: The Soft Parade (Doors, 1969), McArthur's Park (Richard Harris, 1968), The Flesh Failures (Hair, 1968), Suite: Judy Blue Eyes (Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, 1969), Walking In Space (Hair, 1968), All God's Children Got Soul (Dorothy Morrison, 1969).

5. Motown: A Company's Transition From The 60's To The 70's Was Rough Going:
A contributing factor to music's demise in the 1970's was Motown chief Berry Gordy's all but wrecking his great company. In 1968, Gordy moved to LA. Tried to run Motown in Detroit via remote control. That alone showed his attitude towards the company he made great.

True, his company was hit by severe personnel problems towards the late 60's. Wonderful Temptations' lead vocalist, David Ruffin got enmeshed in coke, and was dismissed from The Temptations around May, 1967. Eddie Kendricks left The Temptations in December, 1971. Irreplaceable losses. David Ruffin's replacement, Dennis Edwards, while excellent, was not magical. I Can't Get Next to You, Superstar, Why'd She Have to Leave Me were wonderful, but Dennis was not David. And Motown continued to release David Ruffin's music, which was excellent, but not promote it. And so his fans never heard his work after My Whole World Ended (1969). Pity. His work was well-worth listening to. Still is.

His post-May, 1967 Temptations' career produced such gems as My Whole World Ended (1969), I've Lost Everything I've Ever Loved (1969), which were in the Temptations style, while Walk Away From Love (1975), EveryThing's Coming Up Love (1976) were in the best Disco styling. He also teamed with Fellow Temptation lead vocalist Eddie Kendricks to produce, One More For the Lonely Hearts Club (1987), and I Couldn't Believe It (1987). Both feature scintillating productions, perfect soulful vocals. Just under-promoted.

While Smokey Robinson wrote & produced the Temptations from 1964 up through February, 1966, Norman Whitfield wrote/produced them from May, 1966 - December, 1973. After Whitfield exited the Tempts work, they were done as far as hits were concerned.

Smokey had given them, My Girl, It's Growing, Since I Lost My Baby, Don't Look Back, Get Ready, and Girl (Why You Wanna Make Me Blue) among many others.

Norman gave them Ain't Too Proud To Beg, Beauty Is Only Skin Deep, You're My Everything, Gonna Give Her All the Love I've Got, It's You That I Need, I Wish It Would Rain, I Could Never Love Another, Cloud Nine, I Can't Get Next To You, Psychedelic Shack, Ball of Confusion, Just My Imagination, Superstar, Papa Was a Rolling Stone, Masterpiece, Plastic Man, Hey Girl, You Got My Soul On Fire, Law of the Land, Why'd She Have To Leave Me.

After 1973, the Tempts went from producer to producer, label to label, adrift, in search of a writer/producer. They became a touring act, without current hits, releasing album after album. Without Ruffin/Kendricks as lead vocalist, they were past their original classic lineup. But they did succeed in putting together a superb lineup of original members Otis Williams & Melvin Franklin, added Richard Street to handle Paul Williams parts, Ron Tyson for the high voice & Ali-Ollie Woodson to replicate the original David Ruffin leads. They were amazing. Their song, "Stay" from 1998 was as exquisite as any of the early hits, but the fans hardly were paying attention.

Another blow to Motown was the death of their drummer, beloved "Papa Zita", William "Benny" Benjamin on April 20, 1969. And their legendary electric bass guitarist James Jamerson died on August 2, 1983, after following Motown to LA. He had suffered from alcoholism for many years, and hadn't been effective since 1973, when Motown closed it's Detroit operation. Diana Ross left the Supremes. Their farewell show was January 14, 1970. And without her, Berry took no further interest in them.

Hopelessly obsessed with Ross, Berry put her into films, Lady Sings the Blues (1972), and Mahogany (1975), The Wiz (1978). While his company in California floundered for hit records, Gordy put his attention into Ross and her film/solo career. Such is the folly of men in love with those who can't love them back.

Holland-Dozier-Holland (HDH) stopped working for Motown around August, 1967, due to their feeling underpaid. They were the powerhouse writing/production team which supplied the material for the Supremes/Four Tops/Martha & the Vandellas.

Smokey Robinson had left the Miracles to embark upon his solo career by June, 1972. But the real death blow to Motown was the decision to leave Detroit, and move to Los Angeles in 1972. Their home jazz musicians, known as the Funk Brothers, who played all of the Motown songs, were left behind, except legendary bassist, James Jamerson. Motown could not overcome an error so colossal. Gigantic. And so Motown's legacy, "The Sound of Young America", also got left behind. For a company like Motown to fall required errors of judgment of epic, catastrophic proportions. But Berry Gordy proved up to it.

This group of musicians, culled by Berry from Detroit's jazz clubs, consisted of a nucleus of around 15 amazing men. They played on all of Motown's records, backing all of its acts, from 1959-1972. Motown's legendary in-house studio band, were paid $10. per song recorded. Motown began to move its operation to Los Angeles and one day in 1972, the musicians arrived at Hitsville in Detroit for work, and found a note saying, "Session canceled. Will be re-scheduled". It never reopened. Berry Gordy had given his legendary heroes absolutely no notice or acknowledgment. What a cold, cruel, heartless way to treat one's heroic employees. If the words "End of an era" ever meant anything, it surely received new meaning that day. Mr. Gordy showed no grace, taste, courtesy, or class. Or even common decency. No severance pay, no nothing. Thanks for nothing, Berry Gordy, after having made you a multi, multi-millionaire. And if he ever felt any remorse, he never showed it to the Funk Brothers.

The Funk Brothers made Berry Gordy a multi, multi-millionaire. Berry Gordy made the Funk Brothers severely under-paid employees for years, and finally unemployed.

From 1958 to 1972, the Funk Brothers were the best-kept secret in pop music. One would have thought that if he under-paid them, he might have made it up to them by promoting them, and thus garnering fame for them. But no, Gordy feared that if the world knew of his unsung heroes, they might have received outside offers of work, and left him. So, he refused to promote them to fame. Berry Gordy's fear that rival record labels might try to poach his studio musicians was all he needed to let them rot and languish in obscurity. What a soulless man was he!

Years later, someone at Motown must have seen the injustice and tried to remedy the situation by giving them credit on the records and listing their names. These listings can now be found on the greatest hits collections of the Miracles (35 Anniversary Collection, 1994), and Temptations (Emperors of Soul, 1994), Marvin Gaye: the Master: 1961-1984.

Oh, Motown continued to survive in LA. It introduced The Jackson 5 in 1970, but the magic was gone. And even the Jackson 5, whose hot time was 1970-73, chose to leave. Motown refused to allow them to write or choose their own material, or play their own instruments on their records. Finally, in early 1976, they left Motown to sign with Epic.

And Ross, for whom Gordy neglected his company, showed her appreciation & gratitude by leaving Motown in December, 1980. And her career, without Gordy to promote, over-sell, hype, protect, run clearance for and elaborately market, has went nowhere. She's continued to record love ballads, but without Berry Gordy, her career has sailed serenely over the cliff and into the abyss. Hasn't released a record in the US since 1986 & was bombing way before that. Now releases her records in England, but the magic died for her career the moment she left Berry Gordy. Her "Back To Love" tour of the summer of 2000, intended to revive her career in the US, by reuniting her with the Supremes, was canceled after only a few concert dates, due to concert halls being only half, or less, filled. The public obviously sent her a message. Without Mary Wilson, the Supremes association was a shallow sham. Mary Wilson quite correctly refused to tour as a Supremes act, if Diana was going to receive an untoward amount of the generated revenues. America rejected Ross as a "diva", a vocalist and an entertainer.

So Motown, by mid-1972, sailed into the future as a vastly different company than its 1960's self. The Tempts had lost leads Ruffin/Kendricks, the Supremes Ross/Ballard, the Miracles lost Smokey, the company lost HDH's writing/production combo. But even more crippling, if possible, the company cast off it's fabled, legendary in-house, studio band, The Funk Brothers. No company could survive such self-imposed catastrophic errors of judgment and retain its magic. It was a faint shadow & fading echo of its former glory.

Gordy finally sold his interests in Motown in June, 1988 to Boston Ventures & MCA for $61m. In 1993, MCA sold the company to PolyGram. Andre Harrell has functioned as Motown's President since 1995, and he swears he will lead the company back to its past glories, by reinstating many of Berry's old methods. Time will tell.

Philly Soul: Gamble / Huff / Bell
Outside of Motown, one of the most fabled hotbeds of soul music was Philadelphia, PA. And in that town, the power house combo were Kenny Gamble, Leon Huff, and Thom Bell. Although in the business since the 50's, they didn't begin to find traction until the mid-60's, with The Intruders. They worked hard, assembled a crew of musicians to rival The Funk Brothers and set about to challenge Motown.

Their studio band were called MFSB (Mothers, Fathers, Sisters, Brothers). And their most identifiable song is possibly TSOP (The Sound of Philadelphia, 1974). It served as the instantly-recognizable theme song to the teen dance TV show, Soul Train. Written/produced by G/H.

Unlike Gordy however, G/H wrote most of their acts' material, and produced it themselves. They didn't really begin to overtake Motown until the 70's. In fact, the big story of rock music in the 70's, was how G/H/B finally exceeded their Motown rivals. 1970's music is largely the story of Philly Soul, & its mastering of the Disco Sound. And their roster reads like a Who's Who of 70's success.

But first, let's look at their 60's work, which was really quite wonderful, even if over-shadowed by Motown. The 1st charted tune for G/H was The 81, by Candy & The Kisses in 1964. Their 1st top 5 hit was Expressway To Your Heart, 1967 by the Sole Survivors, a white group. For The Intruders they wrote / produced such hits as Together (1967), A Love's That's Real (1967), Cowboys to Girls (1968), Archie Bell and The Drells, fresh with hit, Tighten Up, were able to escape 'One Hit Wondership', by joining G/H. I Can't Stop Dancing, There's Gonna Be A Showdown resulted. The Delphonics benefited with La, La, La Means I Love You, Didn't I Blow Your Mind.

Jerry Butler received a jump-start with Only the Strong Survive (January, 1969), Aretha cut A Brand New Me with them in November, 1970, while Wilson Picket got Don't Let the Green Grass Fool You (November, 1970.)

As impressive as their 60's work was, it was in the 70's that the G/H/B combo really found their stride. Groups which had been around a long time like The O'Jays and Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes discovered another career gear. By putting Blue Notes drummer Teddy Pendergrass upfront on vocals, they scaled new heights. The Love I Lost, Bad Luck, & If You Don't Know Me By Now made them stars.

The O'Jays found similar success after jumping on their bandwagon. Back Stabbers, Love Train and Used Ta Be My Girl (1978), drove them to super stardom. The Three Degrees benefited from the G/H/B touch in September, 1974 with When Will I See You Again. The Stylistics became one of the prime groups of the 70's, thanks to their association with G/H/B. Their I'm Stone In Love With You was a 70's classic, along with their Rock And Roll Baby. Lou Rawls scored with You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine (1976).

The reasons why G/H/B were able to catch and surpass Motown in the 70's were many-fold. Berry had taken his eye off the ball by getting enmeshed with Diana Ross. While he was directing her in movies, G/H were mastering the subtle segues into disco music. As Disco took over, G/H were ready and mastered it's nuances like master surfers catching the perfect wave. That they were able to guide Harold Melvin, the O'Jays, the Spinners, Stylistics, Three Degrees was a demonstration of total creative mastery of the "disco style".

All companies suffer losses in personnel disruptions/defections, but G/H handled their routine disruptions more professionally due to not having diversified, distracted, and over-extended themselves with films, and moving 2,000 miles away from their operations.

While, Motown and its many acts tried their best to adjust to disco, the Tempts & Smokey didn't get the hang of it nearly as well as G/H/B did. It was as if they had invented the disco style. Lush, romantic strings, background vocals, synthesized drums, smoothness personified. David Ruffin, still at Motown, actually mastered disco's style quite well.

Over in Detroit, Gordy tried to manage his endless crises as best he could. When H/D/H defected, he turned to other accomplished writers. Ashford / Simpson, Harvey Fuqua, Frank Wilson were all proven quality writers. And he still had Smokey, Stevie Wonder, and reconstituted Supremes, Miracles & Temptations lineups.

In fairness to Gordy, many of his problems were not self-created. Rival companies raided his roster. His acts left him. Gladys Knight, Marvelettes, Martha & the Vandellas, Diana Ross, The Jacksons. The 4 Tops/ Tempts left & returned. Some of his producers/writers left him. Fuqua, Johnny Bristol, Ashford / Simpson, Whitfield. After Whitfield was dismissed by the Temptations in December, 1973, he worked with other Motown acts until 1975, when he left Motown to set up his own record company. The move to California in 1973 didn't help Berry Gordy hold on to his best people. Looking back, if Berry had stayed in Detroit, and kept the Funk Brothers, perhaps he wouldn't have been plagued by so many defections. Especially if he had decided to match standard industry rates of compensation.

G/H/B wrote or co-wrote 3,000 songs, and scored 170 gold or platinum records. Their storied run lasted until the end of the 70's, when disco crashed and burned. Their identity had become enmeshed so closely with that style, that the end of it left them struggling for hits, just as the end of the 60's has left Motown struggling. Their company, Philadelphia International, set up in 1971, continued, albeit without the plethora of chart hits. Teddy Pendergrass lost control of his car on March 18, 1982, in Philly, rendering him paralyzed from the waist down. Similarly, on August 14, 1990 Curtis Mayfield was paralyzed from the neck down in a freak onstage accident at a Brooklyn concert, and died on December 26, 1999 in Roswell, Georgia.

After playing in local NJ bands, by 1975, Bruce Springsteen had found his E Street Band, his sound, and traction. Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out (1975), Dancing In the Dark (1984), I'm On Fire (1984), were some of his better tunes. Bruce became a monster success merely by playing simple 60's rock after the 60's. Showed how hungry the kids were for simple rock and roll. They were starving to death.

And in the 1970's, other black harmony groups continued the successful penetration. Offering polished melodious, harmonious music were the Manhattans, Spinners, Stylistics, Chi-Lites, O'Jays, Blue Notes, all fed the insatiable American appetite for polished harmony work. They were following in the prestigious footsteps of the 1960's harmony groups. In additions to the ones listed above, there were The Drifters, Impressions, Intruders, Delphonics, Shirelles, Marveletts, Martha & the Vandellas, Little Anthony & The Imperials. And they in turn, had inherited the legacy of the 1950's harmony groups. The Mills Brothers, Ink Spots, Platters, 5 Satins, Flamingos, Moonglows, Capris, Sheppards.

Although I feel that rock music as an artform peaked around 1972, and then quickly declined due to disco, & the disco DJs disemployment of rock bands in the dance clubs, there will never be a total extinguishing of the flame, known as rock music. It morphs, evolves & transforms.

I feel that rock peaked somewhere between 1967-72. Historic LPs, such as Abbey Road (Beatles, 1966), Exile on Main Street (Rolling Stones, 1972), Tapestry (Carol King, 1971), Pet Sounds (Beach Boys, 1966) were vintage classics for the ages. Other single songs were also most daring. Papa Was a Rolling Stone, by the Temptations (1972 - 11min.), Who Is He and What Is He To You?, by Creative Source (1973 - 11:47min.), Standing In the Shadows of Love by Barry White (1973 - 5:21min.), were all very long, employed full orchestras, and represented an exciting, new possible direction for rock. But others did not pick up on this format, and didn't jump on its bandwagon.

In NYC, on February 14, 1970, a young man named David Mancuso started throwing rent parties for his friends as a way of paying the rent. Word spread. His sound system was legendary. (He'd changed needles mid-set). Originally (647 Broadway, corner Bleeker). Came to be known as The Loft. In 1975, David moved The Loft to the Lower East Side: 238 East 3rd St.,10009. One of NYC's many legends whose story has not been told properly. I never found the address to go there.

6. Loss of Creative Musical Genius: Deaths
The Beatles broke up in 1970, amid a flurry of lawsuits. The band which had served as a vehicle for growth for their generation since 1963, was an inestimable loss. In America, Brian Wilson lost his mental balance around 1967. He abandoned his project called Smile, and went into a profound mental depression/malaise. He became a drug addict, overweight and mentally fragile.

In time, he did re-cover much lost ground, to where he was able to record/release a solo CD in 1988, called Brian Wilson. He released Sweet Insanity (1991), Getting In Over My Head (2004), Smile (2004). His single, Surf's Up, from Smile is as exquisite a rock tune as rock ever produced. Sadly, it's largely unknown to the vast rock public.

Brain Wilson, though still somewhat mentally fragile, is still a creative, musical genius. Obviously, only the strongest persons could overcome drugs, obesity & mental illness, sufficiently to write great music, and perform it. That Brian Wilson was capable of such a heroic accomplishment is a testament to the human spirit. He was even able to go back and finish his abandoned 1967 project, Smile. He was only able to pull that one off, due to the infinite patience & tenacity of vocalist/vibes/keyboardist Darian Sahanaja, 'Wondermint' and member of Brian's band. He worked with Brian to assemble the fragments, bridges, rehearsals, and was called Brian's 'musical secretary'. Indeed, the unsung hero of Brian's valiant effort to bring Smile to fruition. Most rock musical critics ranked Smile as one of rock's greatest masterpieces, albeit borderline, experimental rock music.

In support of the belief that Rock was better pre-1980 than post, is the loss of many musicians. What business can afford to lose so many creative leaders and not be seriously hurt? Following are some of the leading creators of Rock music who did not make it out of the 70's.

Buddy Holly died in a plane crash February 3, 1959, along with Big Bopper & Richie Valens. Sam Cooke was killed December 11, 1964, when a black female motel manager shot him in the stomach, Otis Redding died in a plane crash December 10, 1967. Jimmie Hendrix died in London, September 18, 1970 of a drug overdose, Janis Joplin OD'ed on October 4, 1970 in Hollywood, Jim Morrison was found dead in his bath, outside Paris, July, 2, 1971, and the autopsy showed no drugs in his system.

Saxophonist King Curtis was stabbed to death outside his home in NYC on August 13, 1971. Mama Cass Elliot suffered a heart attack July 29, 1974. And no, it wasn't gagging on a ham sandwich. Elvis Presley died August 16, 1977, at home, probably due to an overuse of prescription medications. Keith Moon (drummer for The Who), on September 7, 1978, in his sleep at the age of 32, having overdosed on anti-seizure medication, taken as part of a program to wean him off alcohol. On August 14, 1990 Curtis Mayfield was paralyzed from the neck down in a freak onstage accident at a Brooklyn concert, and died on December 26, 1999 in Roswell, Georgia.

Others didn't die, but were rendered non-productive via a variety of problems. Brian Wilson took himself off-line via a bad LSD trip, mental illness & drugs around 1967. The Beach Boys became a touring oldies act. Phil Spector left the business in 1966, but came back later. The Beatles split up in 1970, as well as Simon & Garfunkel. Jan Berry of Jan & Dean fame, crashed his motorcycle & sustained permanent brain damage on April 12, 1966. Later, after much heroic hard work, he was able to perform onstage again. On Sept. 25, 1975, while performing at the Latin Casino, in Camden, NJ, Jackie Wilson had a devastating stroke and never spoke again. He laid in bed in a vegetative state for years at Medford Leas Retirement Community, Medford, NJ, from 1977 and died January 20, 1984.

Phil Spector worked with such acts as Ronettes, Righteous Brothers, Crystals, Ike & Tina Turner, among others. When his production of River Deep, Mountain High peaked at #88 in the US in the summer of 1966, Spector left the rock music business in disgust for a long time.

One of the problems was the inability of established rock stars to turn out hits as they had done in the 60's. Paul McCartney, Smokey Robinson, Bob Dylan, Phil Spector, John Lennon, Bob Gaudio of the 4 Seasons, Holland/Dozier/Holland, Norman Whitfield, Carol King, Elton John, John Fogerty, were all rock-writing geniuses of the highest order, yet were manifestly unable to replicate their hit-making successes of the 60's, in any way approximating their former levels. Yes, each did register a few hits post-1970.

Spector left the music business in 1966, Norman Whitfield in 1977. Holland/Dozier/Holland left Motown in late 1967, after producing 25 top 10 hits for them, and never achieved that level of success again.

7. The Age of Disco: 1973-1980
Behind the scenes, forces were at work that would soon render the rock music scene unrecognizable. Around 1972, the US economy was in the midst of a painful contraction, brought on by an OPEC oil embargo of the US, caused by US support of Israel in a 1972 Mid-East war. Many businesses had to scramble to stay afloat.

One of those businesses was the US dance clubs. Whereas previously, many dance clubs had live music of rock bands to attract their customers, (some even had two bands to stay competitive), they now could no longer afford to pay bands. So they stopped hiring bands, and hired DJs to play records. The emergence of disco music dove-tailed to perfection as far as the financially-strapped dance clubs were concerned. One DJ was a lot cheaper than a band, let alone 2 bands.

The disco era had arrived. Disco was so different than the incredible variety that had proceeded it. No longer did radio stations play the full spectrum of diversified rock, but suddenly, opted to go with a single category of rock music. And the fans resented it deeply. 'Death to Disco' became a theme. It is an unsolved mystery of rock music radio station politics, why disco didn't become simply another honored guest at the musical banquet table. Why was it allowed to virtually drive other types of rock off the airwaves?

In dance clubs, a recognizable pop culture had evolved. A large ball of small square tiles of mirrored glass would hang suspended over the dance floor. Young coyotes, decked out in white polyester suites, high platform shoes, bell-bottomed pants, gold chains around the neck, shirts open from the top 4 buttons showing chests, hair slicked back. John Travolta, from his role in Saturday Night Fever, served as the model. Swing dancing became elaborate routines, akin to ballroom. The Bee Gees ruled the airwaves. Their Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, along with Nights On Broadway, YMCA, Macho Man, Boogie Shoes, Heart of Glass, Dancing Queen, all were played to death in the dance clubs across the land.

The vinyl record, which is petroleum based, shot up in cost, thus affecting record sales. The 1972 oil embargo caused this.

When disco music arrived in NYC, via The Hustle in 1973, it launched a new era. The Bee Gees, the Village People, The Trampps & George McCrae, did quite well in the 70's, to name a few. The Eagles, The Osmonds, Elton John, Abba, KC and the Sunshine Band, Barry White also prospered. Most of the older acts tried as best they could to adjust to the the new disco era, such as Smokey Robinson, The Temptations. But the worse damage to rock music was the long-term loss of employment of rock bands in US dance clubs to the much cheaper DJs.

Playing in dance clubs was the learning place for American rock bands. It was school. Where bands could work the bugs out, develop their "sound". Get their sound tight. Like the Beatles did in Hamburg, Germany, so many years before. And without that foundation, rock as an artform, took a huge hit. The super groups, which already had name recognition, held together for as long as they could. But when, inevitably, they broke up, there no longer was the bubbling cauldron of talent coming up and replacing them. Single artists, like Donna Summer, Cyndi Lauper, Prince, Barry White, Isaac Hayes, Billy Joel, George McCrae, and Bruce Springsteen prospered. But for rock bands, disco was the kiss of death. Without their accustomed jobs in the dance clubs, many bands couldn't hang in. All had to get day jobs to survive. And most never got good enough to record or attract promoters to back them. Just broke up. And the world never got the chance to hear how good they might have gotten. That was the lethal legacy of Disco. The lost potential of the rock musician. When the proverbial tree falls in the woods, did anyone hear it? Unrealized potential, though silent, is nonetheless real.

The big rock orchestras never really stopped, permanently. They continued to record, tour, and make money by rotating musical members. Personnel changes were more a way of life than the exception. Chicago, Blood, Sweat & Tears, Santana, Moody Blues all continued like creatures which couldn't die. But their hit songs era were largely memories by the early 70's. And some long before. Dozens of former stars survived the 70's by touring, but no radio hits.

But, when disco fell out of favor around 1980, instead of returning to a wide, broad spectrum of rock bands, rap happened. In the late 1970's, as a reaction to the smoothness of disco, some fans embraced the more raw sounds of "New Wave", and "Punk". Little more than overly loud garage band music. Groups such as Clash debuted in 1976, the Sex Pistols in 1977. It's overly loud, unpolished sound appealed mostly to juveniles seeking an identify and desperate to make a statement. But in the end, it was mediocre, disorganized sound that never found a broad base. The big money remained in mainstream pop.

8. Rock Music Loses It's Focus
Another development in the Rock Music world was the trend away from the music itself, and onto theatric visuals. Acts like Alice Cooper began in 1971, where performers "hung" themselves onstage, had boas snakes, garish makeup, and clownish costumes. Having the theatrics take precedence over the musicianship was a terribly humbling descent for an artform, considering the greatness which had preceded it. But the descent hadn't hit bottom yet, and wouldn't until the arrival of rap. Rap dispensed with all the theatrics, costumes, and most everything else ever once associated with music. At its core, Rap was nothing more than rhythmic talking, in a sing-song tone. No melody, no harmonies, no singing. Just a chant with a beat. A monotonous beat. Sure the lyrics had something to say. Usually the messages was positive. But the best part of rap, it's message, could be given on paper, without the organized sound effects.

What a dizzy fall from the days of Abbey Road, Surf's Up, or Bridge Over Troubled Water. And it was as if it originated from another universe from "I Could Never Love Another", "You're My Everything", "My Girl", or even "The Soft Parade". How humiliating to such a once proud art-form! Kiss began in 1974, and the music took a backseat to the visuals. Their makeup/facial paint was so heavy that they were quite unrecognizable offstage. Tried to not be photographed out of costume, as not to break the effect. Silliness. Such a waste of time, but the worst was still to come. Rap loomed on the horizon, as the bottom of the rock barrel.

9. 1980: The Age of Rap:
And around 1980, Rap music began its long reign as the "language of the streets". Rhythm without melody/harmony had a hard time crossing over to a mass white audience. Whereas, previously, Motown of the 1960's had been specifically designed to cross over, and it did, magnificently. The Supremes, Temptations, Miracles, Four Tops, Jr. Walker & the All-Stars, Marvin Gaye all achieved total cross-over into the homes of America. Gladys Knight, Aretha Franklin, all succeeded in cutting across the racial borders. In all its years since 1980, Rap Music has never succeeded in penetrating the white music market. Relevant as it might be, as a medium of communications among blacks, it has never been embraced anywhere near as much as the 1960's Motown Sound. In the Rap community, Public Enemy (1987), Snoop Dogg, Vanilla Ice, Eminem, Tupac Shakur, Dr. Dre, Eazy E all had their days.

There were also varying schools of Rap like Old School (Ol' Skoul) and New School (Gangsta). Old School rappers include groups like Run DMC, EZE, MC Hammer, Sir Mix A Lot, Queen Latifah, Beasti Boys and Will Smith. Some artists started making rap differently, like Snoop Dog, Bone, LC, Busta Rhymes, QTP, Missy and 50 Cent. This led the way for the new style of Rap which has current stars like Eminem, Nelly, JaRule, Diz, Most Def, and JZ.

10. Variety in The Age of Rap
Beginning in 1980, as rap was emerging, single artists continued to chart well. As huge as rap became, it was hardly the dominant force in music. Rap could never find a way to cross over, and replace pop as the dominant, mainstream flavor. Pop continued to dominate all before it. The huge money stayed in the middle. Springsteen with simple rock, while pop claimed most of the other huge acts. Madonna, Mariah Carey, Gloria Estefan, Paula Abdul, Michael/Janet Jackson were the name pop icons.

Unfortunately, the quality of the music, the writing, seldom rose to the level of the theatrical productions. Costumes, pageantry, spectacle, choreography, dancers, lighting, props, makeup, and other distractions came first, the music second. Oh, there were always the isolated example of quality here and there. Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, Sarah McLachlan were more about the music itself, and less about the spectacle of the show. Madonna tackled Evita, and came up with the adult, Take A Bow.

Celine Dion, Whitney Houston, Sarah McLachlan, Amy Grant, Gloria Estefan, Paula Abdul, Aaron Neville, Michael Jackson, Prince all found their audiences, as did Huey Lewis and the News, Rod Stewart & Roxette.

Madonna Louise Ciccone moved to NYC in 1979, studied dance, hit in the clubs by 1982, broke through with "Like A Virgin" in 1984. That began a long string of 17 songs in the top 10, got into films, married/divorced Sean Penn, and became a celebrity. Mariah Carey gained traction with her 1st CD in 1990. Christian vocalist Amy Grant started in 1977, Gloria Estefan started with the Miami Sound Machine in 1980, made their 1st English CD in 1984, and her 1st solo CD in 1989. L.A. Lakers cheerleader and choreographer, Paula Abdul, released her 1st CD in 1988.

Rap, despite its stranglehold on many black fans, is not without it's challenges in the black musical community. There have been attempts to bring back the great harmony groups in the 1990's. Babyface has carried the ball of melody/harmony, and others too. Smokey Robinson, Curtis Mayfield, and others labored for years to keep the flame of melody/harmony alive in their work. Why their fans didn't collectively reward their efforts, post 1970, as they did pre-1970 is elusive.

Some of the other groups which have persevered in returning melody/harmony back to black music have been: Boyz II Men, All 4 One, Hi-Five, Take Six, 2 Clockwork, Soul For Real, N II U, II D Extreme, Portrait, The Whispers.

MTV: The Advent of the Rock Video:
On August 1, 1981 an innovative station, MTV, began broadcasting music videos around the clock. Although it may not have been obvious at once, a new era had arrived. As if the sound itself didn't have enough to compete with it, from then on, music acts would have to present music videos to sell themselves. Oh happy day! The day had finally arrived that the unattractive performer had dreaded. Being seen. The most well-financed groups, like the Rolling Stones, Bee Gees, were well-positioned to take full advantage of this development. The others would have to work harder. Did this represent an advancement for Rock Music? It had the potential. Everyone would love to see their favorites sing. But it also gave an excuse for creative film makers to hide the performers behind creative film-making, while ignoring bad music. But it did succeed in giving a generation ample practice in lip-syncing. Real singing is done in the studio. Mouthing words, semi-clad, in "intriguing" scenarios became a new artform for Madonna, Carey, Christina Agulara, Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, New Boys on the Block, Manuto, New Edition and their clones. But the arrival of the rock video is still a good thing. At least it gives the possibility of watching performers.

11. 2000 to the Present:
If Rock Music, as an artform isn't dead, it's severely ill and in serious need of a jump start. If anyone/anything is going to happen, now is the time. The rock world is quiet and awaiting its next big thing.

Brian Wilson went back and completed his abandoned 1967 Smile project in 2004. It's a winner, and Brian has been creating good, solid music now since 1988, but few besides his original fans know about it. Bob Dylan never retired. He's been touring all these years. Santana has never retired. Dylan, Santana, and Brian Wilson have been honored by the music business in recent years. And the INTERNET is the current big thing, in terms of liberating fans from the tyranny of having to pay for an album to get a song. Online transfers of songs, via peer-to-peer technology have finally broken the backs of the corrupt record labels, who had for decades ripped off their own artists, paying them pennies on the dollar for hit songs. Treated them like prostitutes, while they acted out the role of pimps, and the fans as Johns.

Long about now, someone might rise up and shout, "Wait a minute! If the 60's-70's is your idea of a "peak", remember that Paul McCartney, Elton John, Rod Stewart, Bob Dylan, John Fogerty, Stevie Wonder, Aretha, Frankie Vallie, Carol King, Smokey Robinson and many of the stars of that era have never retired. They still record occasionally. And while that is technically true, they aren't all that active either, and certainly not as prolific. Many others like Van Morrison, the Grateful Dead are still technically active. But how long has it been since any of the above admitted superstars have had a hit? They all live the lives of successful, rich rock stars. Today, some fine rock artists are still out there. Besides the rock royalty already mentioned, Aaron Neville, and the Cranberries are excellent examples of good music.

My pet dream is that Paul McCartney and Brian Wilson form a group. They both could use the friendly rivalry. Two of rock's greatest song writers, both born on the same day, played bass for 2 of the most successful rock bands. Oh well. The stuff dreams are made of.

So, although Rock Music will never be literally "dead", when comparing the quality of the decades to each other, some decades stand out as so much more dynamic, producing a volume of quality songs, compared to other decades. Up to 1972, the rock scene was characterized by dozens of different, recognizable categories, all producing high-quality music concurrently. Underneath the surface, when name groups disbanded, as they ultimately do, there existed a palpable, seething, bubbling "cauldron" of talent. It hit a creative crescendo, just before disco came in and virtually drove all the other categories off the airwaves.

So, while all artforms have their ebbs & flows, some points along the way enjoy greater productivity than other time periods. It's this author's contention, the that from 1967 to around 1973, rock music hit its all-time pinnacle of quality/quantity, of dynamic expression. At no time before or since has the artform enjoyed such a broad, wide plethora of high-quality practitioners. Never before or since had so many artistic creative genius' co-existed concurrently, all producing a high level of that artform, we have come to call - Rock & Roll Music. Can you dig it?

12. Aftermath:
During the 1960's, Rock Music's DJ's were incredibly generous to all of rock's many genres. Many of the top DJ's of the 60's played not only the songs of the moment, but the music which had come before, the "doo-wop" era. In the Philadelphia Delaware Valley, the 3 big radio stations were Wibbage (WIBG), WFIL, & WDAS. At Wibbage, the top guys were Hy Lit, (May 20, 1934), and Joe Niagara, (July 4, 1927-June 4, 2004). Both played lots of 50's doo-wop classics. Niagara and Philly radio legend Jerry Blavat, July 3, 1940, were rock master connoisseurs. They had amazing, encyclopedic knowledge of rock from 1953-on. They also put out many vinyl LP records, to keep the best of the past alive. Their mission was that the best classics from rock would not become forgotten. WIBG killed it's historic rock music format on September 10,1977 by switching to talk radio format. Talk about the end of an era!

WDAS, was a radio station in Philly which put out soul music. Its DJs were, Georgie Woods, (May 11, 1927-June 18, 2005), Jocko Henderson, (March 8, 1918-July 15, 2000), Kae Williams, (February 24, 1921-December 23, 1987), Sonny Hopson, (January 24, 1937), Carl Helm, (August 9, 1925), Joe "Butterball" Tamburro, (April 28, 1942), and Jimmy Bishop. Their fans had fun, but probably not as much as the DJs did.

Blavat liked to call his yon teens, amazons and coyotes, from the hit song by the Dreamlovers, 1963. In NYC, Cousin Brucie was also guarding the Flame at WABC (1961 - August 2, 1974). WABC New York launched its rock 'n roll format December 7, 1960 & ended its historic rock music format May 10, 1982.

These men saw to it that rock's classics had a venue. These brave DJs made sure that not only the best of the Golden Age, 1967-1973, were preserved fresh in our memories, but the best of Rock's early formative days in the 50's likewise survived intact.

And thanks to the efforts of these men, and many others like them around the country, many classic rock songs lived for years on the airwaves. Morse Code of Love (Capris) , Island of Love (Sheppards, 1959), In the Still of the Night (5 Satins, 1956), Hushabye (Mystics, 1959). We owe a debt to these men that can never be repaid.

We will not lower the standards. We will not compromise our values. We will keep seeking good music. And when we find it we will mix it into the menu. As long as brave DJ's continue to hold the flag high, we will continue to honor the past as well as the present. Our Music is our common language - our Priceless Gold. Our Music will not die. And it will keep us forever young in our hearts.

Most Top 10 Hits
1. Elvis Presley -38
2. Madonna -37
3. Beatles -34
4. Janet Jackson -29
5. Stevie Wonder -28
6. Michael Jackson -27
6. Elton John -27
8. Rolling Stones -23
9. Paul McCartney -22
10. Supremes -20
10. Chicago -20
12. 4 Seasons / Frankie Valli -19
12. Prince -19
12. Ricky Nelson -19
12. Wham / George Michael -19
16. Hall & Oats -16
16. Temptations -16
18. Bee Gees -15
18. Beach Boys -15
20. Carpenters -12
20. Kool & the Gang -12
20. Huey Lewis & the News -12
20. Everly Brothers -12

The above article was written and contributed by Bill Burgess.
Windy City Fan contributed this wonderful companion piece to my above piece.
Bill interesting article. I agree with you on a few points.

First, rock does tend to eat its young. Being a rock and roll star is a dangerous profession if you look at the amazing number of deaths at early ages. Also, even if a rock star survives to old age, its often difficult to maintain their creative edge as they become prosperous, wealthy, etc. Its difficult to go in different directions when the public just seems to want more of the same from you. A lot of the aging rock bands out there are as you said, just touring acts. The Rolling Stones have been on a greatest hits tour for at least two decades now.

Secondly, my theory has always been the big studios that took over the music industry are not interested in great music. They are interested in great profits. So they watered down rock. They packaged and marketed what it was to be a rock star. They couldn't kill "sex, drugs, and rock and roll" since the rebellion of rock was part of the appeal, but they did make it safer, less edgy and confrontational. Similarly, you speak of the various niches of rock - blues, country, California, folk, funk, soul, orchestra, etc. The studios execs were also behind this. Niche music only sells to the niche. Instead, studios want acts that appeal to the broadest possible market. Larger markets equal larger base of potential customers, which equals larger profits.

So the studios ruled rock from the mid seventies with arena rock acts like Styx, Kansas, Journey, etc. (please note, I enjoy some songs from all of the bands I just named, but they are clearly not in the category of the musicians that preceded them). Then we moved on to the hair/pop rock of Def Leopard, Bon Jovi, Whitesnake, Warrant, Winger, etc. (Again, I like some of these bands, but artistically most of them aren't worthy of carrying Jimmy Hendrix's guitar pick).

There were outsiders still making music outside fo the big rock studios. Punk was the first big outsider movement. It was loud, raw, and unrefined. Some of it I like, a lot of it sounds too amateur for my tastes. Speed metal of the 80's was also outside the mainstream. Metallica, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Megadeth were playing on small record labels and had a small (relatively) but devoted following. A few acts from the 70's heavy metal scene were still actively recording too. Ozzy Osbourne and AC/DC are the big names that jump into my mind at the moment, but I'm probably missing one or two.

Then came the "alternative" movement. Alternative music itself was no mystery, it was just gritty, real hard rock under a new name for a new generation. Once it broke through and got on the airwaves, it became a force to be reckoned with. It obliterated the careers of almost every hair band. Guns n' Roses was the only one with the creative fortitude to survive and flourish, and while they originally had the look of a hair band, they never had the feel of one. At the same time, Metallica released the self-titled album, Metallica AKA the black album. This was their breakthrough into mainstream success. While it was different than their previous albums, it was still hard and metal.

I view this era as a musical Renaissance (sp?) for rock, particularly hard rock. So what happened? In typical rock fashion, most of the major acts either met an early death (Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley) or imploded (Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Guns 'n' Roses). I'm convinced Pearl Jam intentionally sabotaged their careers, since they were never comfortable with the spotlight. After three smash albums, the first and to my knowledge only single released off their fourth album was a flop. The album was a flop. Yet I recently heard some of their stuff of later albums and it sounded a lot more like the old Pearl Jam. I think they produced Yield with the intent to end their run as a mainstream act. Eddie Vedder was never comfortable as a rock star. Heck, their song "Not for You" off their third album, Vitalogy, basically said they didn't want so many fans.

Well, alternative, or grunge as it was also called, was a huge movement, so where were the new bands to pick up the torch? The studios and corporations were quick to pick up on the trend and to cash in. Studios marketed and created new "alternative" acts, but they were clearly watered down compared to the original class (sadly, these acts are so forgettable in my mind, I can't name one as an example). I can remember Ambercrombie and Fitch and other similar stores selling overpriced flannels and other "grunge" gear in a crass attempt to cash in.

Heavy metal/hard rock lives today, but few of the bands currently recording seem like they will be remembered decades from now. Tool is undoubtedly talented, and while their songs get heavy radio play when they release a single, they don't seem to have the same widespread following the other bands had. Not sure how they will be remembered. Audioslave, formed by Chris Cornell of Soundgarden, and the musicians of Rage Against the Machine, has a chance to become a band for the ages too.

As a confession, I have to admit that I am a lazy music fan. I don't search and scour for great music. I never heard of Pearl Jam or Nirvana before they hit it big. Even though I know Pearl Jam is still recording music I'd like, I don't search it out, because I haven't had it fed to me by the radio. I liked Tool when they first came out in the early 90's, but back then there were so many bands to like. I had no idea they were even still together or making music until they made an album a few years ago that got radio play again.

I don't blindly accept what the radio DJs tell me is good, but I don't go out of my way to search for it either. Instead, I listen to the radio, and if I like it, then I might buy the album or download some more songs. Then again, I'm just as likely to not and simply enjoy the song/artist when it comes on the air. Sadly, I hardly even listen to the radio anymore. I'm much more comfortable in my own cocoon of CD's and downloaded songs. I'm not sure if its a sign of me getting older or a statement on the quality of what's being played today. I used to mock my dad for ignoring/disliking the alternative movement and being content to listen to his classic rock albums.

Oh my God, I'm turning into my father!

Splinter: My favorite Led Zep songs are Dazed and Confused (one of my great rock thrills is when I saw Robert Plant and Jimmy Page play this live), Heartbreaker, When the Levee Breaks, Since I've Been Loving You (great pure blues), Whole Lotta Love, In My Time of Dying, Gallows Pole (remade version by Plant and Page is actually superior in my book), No Quarter (studio version is OK, but the live version of this song on the Songs Remains the Same release blew me away, plus Plant and Page's reworking of the song is quite interesting), and of course Stairway to Heaven. God, I could listen more songs in a blink of an eye, but those are probably my first tier.

As far as rock masterpieces, I'll toss out a few to consider:

Fade to Black - Metallica (best epic metal song ever)
Comfortably Numb - Pink Floyd (wow, that about sums it up)
Jeremy - Pearl Jam (along with the previously mentioned Smells Like Teen Spirit, this song changed the face of rock for a brief shining moment)
The Day I Tried to Live - Soundgarden (Spoonman was their first hit, Black Hole Sun was the biggest, but this was the best)
Heaven Beside You - Alice in Chains (swan song for Alice in Chains)
Freebird - Lynrd Skynrd (I know a lot of people knock this song, but I love it)
November Rain - Guns 'n' Roses (Grandiose, extravagant, and powerful, it is the essence of G&R)
Revolution - The Beatles (sums up The Beatles in one word)

1. Why Did Rock Have to Die? Why did Rock peak and decline as an artform?

I grew up in the 1960's, and looking back, enjoyed an amazing musical smörgåsbord, in terms of the width / breath of rock. Today, it seems to me that the kids are getting short-changed in what is being offered them via radio. And it's such a shame. Rock music can be such a beautiful artform. Why did rock peak, decline?

These kids today don't know nothing about good music. It's all noise. In my day we had real music, not this garbage on the radio today. - every deluded, out of touch old person ever.

Turns out you're a music "purist" as well. Everything has to be exactly as it was when you were a kid/young adult. Everything today is bad simply because it's not exactly the same as it was in the 60s/70s/80s. To fully grasp how ridiculous your post was imagine someone in your precious '67-'73 time frame who was as old as you are now saying exactly the same things about music from the '20s and '30s.

What you don't seem to grasp is that music from that era is special to YOU because you have an emotion bond to it, both in genre and as individual songs/bonds. It's the music that was the soundtrack to your formative years just as today's music is for the kids of today. Music, as with all art, is purely subjective, everyone knows that. But it's also cultural. Do you think it's coincidence that different segments of our society as well as different countries have their own particular styles of music? It's the music that "imprinted" on them by their peers (first and foremost), parents and society in general. It's also a reflection of their culture and their place within it.

To say that music today doesn't offer the variety that it once did shows you complete ignorance of today's music. In the past the music that was presented to the general public was selected by a handful of music execs. Music, with few exceptions, had to fit into the pre-conceived genres with only minor deviation. Today, thanks to the Internet, independent labels and the underground/bootleg music movement, we have hundreds of genres and sub-genres. Your homework for this weekend is to get the free trial of Napster or Yahoo music, or download from usenet, or borrow from the neighborhood kids any 15 songs from the current billboard top 100:


(for those that don't feel like following the link it includes, among others, R Kelly, Coldplay, Black eyed peas, Carly Simon, Gorillaz, Foo Fighters, Kelly Clarkson, Toby Keith, Missy Elliott, Carole King, George Strait, System of a down, 50 Cent, The Killers, Green Day, Jack Johnson, Shakira, the Dave Matthews band, Weezer, the Offspring, Audioslave, etc, etc, etc)

And that's just what's popular, not what's available. Even this homogenized, American idolized, flavor of the month-ful list has infinitely more variety than was ever seen in the 60s, 70s or 80s. I don't expect you to appreciate all this stuff, that would constitute a "new trick", just comprehend the variety of styles that are out there.
TheRealNod threw this in. July 29, 2004, 04:44AM, post 75:
You're just not paying attention, Bill. Stone Temple Pilots, Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, all constituted a revival in what will become my classic rock. Then there are the as yet un-anointed future classic rockers like Korn, Deftones, Tool (pre-anointed, I assure you), Staind, Slipknot, and the very exciting--and previously mentioned--Audioslave. No great band is interested in duplication, and Korn's downfall was that they changed their sound so often, because of duplication, which led ultimately to their downfall. Either that or it was the in-certain-circles-fabled "Evan Curse" that holds, when I become a serious fan of a band, that's the last great album they'll ever produce. It's happened a number of times. I'm bad luck.

I think the problem for you, Bill, is that you just aren't caught up with the true leaders of the new rock. We're looking after it, but it moves in ways that are both unpredictable and user-un-friendly. Duplication has roiled the waters, but not in the same insidious sense that it has in the general pop culture; there will always be rebels, because that's what rock is about, to some degree. Keep the faith.
Bill's response to Mordeci:
Nice post. Deep, incisive, clear. I liked it. Whenever I am posed with the challenge, like you just did, I actually take it serious and look at it objectively. Is it really true? Maybe.

Did you read my post 115? I seem to like most things about today's culture. I prefer TV today to the TV of my youth. I prefer the computer, INTERNET, Napster, Kazaa, email, etc. of today. Didn't exist in my "golden era".

So, am I a purist on other aspects of our present culture? Apparently not. So why do I isolate music, from the other aspects of today? I remember going to Tower Records in 1995, and sitting there all day, listening for free to one CD after another, searching for anything I could relate to, even somewhat. I wasn't mentally closed to finding good stuff then. And whenever I heard good new stuff on the radio, I embraced it.

And guess what? I did find good stuff that day. Self-titled All-4-One by black harmony group, Solo by vocalist of same name, and several good singles.

So, if I haven't heard too much good stuff in the last 10 years, is it me? Or are the songs I like not been produced in the abundance it used to be, due to the fans not liking what I like?

I want to find stuff to like. I want to hear groovy new tunes. Why do I have to be out of date to conform to your stereo-type? And I was one of the original Napster outlaws. And then Kazaa outlaws, which I still am.

Are you quite sure you have me pegged precisely?


PS. Examples of good stuff I've heard in recent years.

She Drives Me Crazy, by Fine Young Cannibals, 1990
Dreams, by the Cranberries, 1990. Also Linger, Sunday by same band.
Tubthumping, by Chumbawamba, 1997.
Stay, by The Temptations, 1998.
One Week, by Bare-Naked Ladies, 1998
He Got Game by Public Enemy, 1998
I Believe I Can Fly, by R. Kelly, 1998.
I Want To Thank You, by Dido, 1999.
Take A Bow, by Madonna, 2001.
In The Arms of The Angels, by Sarah McLachlan.

And I loved Kelly Clarkson and Fantasia, and Clyde Aikens on American Idol.
And enjoy the voices of Jewel, Amy Grant, Mariah Carey, Madonna.
Bill talks about "The Band".
I already have a 2 disc set of theirs - "To Kingdom Come", and a 3 disc set - "Across The Great Divide". And both sets are very good indeed.

Here's my favorite songs of theirs.

The Weight,1968 - Starts off, "Pulled in to Nazareth, Feeling bout half-past dead.
Up On Cripple Creek,1978 - Best version by far - from The Last Waltz.
When I Paint My Masterpiece,1971 - Dylan wrote it, they do it much better, .
The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down,1969 - They wrote it, Joan Baez covered it. Like theirs better.
Rockin' Chair,1969
Down South In New Orleans, 1978 - From The Last Waltz
I Shall Be Released, 1968 - Written by Bob Dylan, they do it much better.

The Band was one of the truly great musical groups of rock, who sadly never received nearly the amount of recognition their quality suggested they should. They were something like a little-known secret. A cult following. And that is so sad to me. Like The Buffalo Springfield & Poco, just never broke into the higher stratosphere. Their hits were minor B hits. They like to write songs which sound old-timey.
Splendid Splinter crafted this insightful analysis:
July 30, 2004, 09:34AM; Post 78
Most likely it is you. They're just not putting out the music that you like out anymore. People nowadays are listening to rap and r&b mostly, then rock behind them. It also seems like country is starting to get real big too. All the kids go out to the clubs and whatnot and the music needs a good beat to dance to. You won't find that in oldies rock (there are some exceptions). You gotta know that music is ever-flowing, always changing from generations to generations. You just have to flow with it. I am like you though Bill. I was born in '84, but I'm a 70's man at heart. I just love the 70's and wish I could go back in time to see all of the great bands back then. But I also love music nowadays too. I'll listen to anything really. My first four concerts that I went to were Boston, John Mellencamp, Bad Company, and Rod Stewart. Since then, I've been to Eric Clapton, Fleetwood Mac, Lynyrd Skynyrd/ Marshall Tucker Band, Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam (twice), Sevendust (twice), Tool (twice), The Smashing Pumpkins, Weezer, Kittie, Disturbed, Papa Roach, P.O.D, Fuel, Green Day, Stone Temple Pilots, Switchfoot...

But the 70's just had some real music. Look at some of the greatest guitarists in the history of music. Most of them played in the 60's and 70's. And I think the same way with the singer's vocals. There were better singers back then than now. But there are exceptions though. I just absolutely LOVE oldies. Gotta thank my parents for that.

Maybe I can give you some bands to look up... (that you might enjoy listening to from bands in the past 10 years)

Collective Soul
Counting Crows
Godsmack (the other side album- it's all acoustic, so awesome... love this album..... if you are into acoustic songs)
Lenny Kravitz
Santana (his supernatural album)
and then you got like... Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Radiohead, U2, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Blind Melon, (got to see him before he got big when he was in high school, went to a high school near mine like 20 minutes), Soundgarden/Audioslave, Alice In Chains

Tubthumping and One Week.. (I'm sorry Bill, but to me they are both really annoying songs to me)
I Believe I Can Fly (great song, love this song, inspires me to do something with my life every time I listen to it)
In The Arms of The Angels (great song, LOVE her vocals... I think Adia is her best song)

Mariah Carey (an exception that a singer today is as good or better as the singers back in the 60's and 70's, along with a few others)
Mordeci then came back with this incisive probe:
July 30, 2004, 03:38PM; post 79

Sorry, had a minor psychotic episode yesterday. I'm back. I think Splinter said most of what I was trying to say only much better than I did. I think the thing that annoyed me with your post was when you said that you felt sorry for kids today because of the lack of quality/diversity in music today. There is truly great music being produced, it's just not in a style that you like.

You are right that the best music isn't in the main stream, but that's always been the case. How much Pink Floyd did you hear on the radio in the 70s vs. the popular crap of the day (Donna Summer comes to mind)? One of the things that all of us tend to do is romanticize a previous era, whether its music, movies, literature or baseball (see how it all comes back to baseball?). We tend to remember the best as if it was the average of its time. Movies are a great example. People talk about how great movies were in the past (pick your era) because they only remember the top 5%-10% of the movies that were released at that time vs. all the movies of today. Music is the same way. If you think back, the great music from the 60s, 70s and 80s didn't get the radio time that it deserved, just as the great music of today doesn't. You've always had to search for great music. In this way it's a lot like art, the popular art of a particular era disappears quickly where the stuff that will eventually be considered "classic" is unappreciated in its time.

Splinter listed several bands that I agree with (and several I don't) that are producing great music today. I would like to 2nd his vote for Radiohead, one of the few bands ever that truly combine great musicianship, passion and imagination. Pablo Honey is one of the truly great albums ever (my opinion, of course). Counting Crows, Tori Amos, Ten by Pearl Jam, Garbage (from what you've said I think you really like their latest, 'Bleed like me', great album). There is great music out there, it's up to you to find it.

Another for the inevitable "fade out" of our rock n rock heroes is that they are victims of their own success. Frequently, unfortunately, great art comes from pain, turmoil, frustration and general angry-young-manism. It has to be somewhat difficult to express angst when you make 8 billion dollars a year and have your choice of groupie-du-jour. Of course I can only speculate on that, as a professional computer geek I make somewhat less than $8 billion (in an average year) and have surprisingly few groupies.

KHenry14 threw this penetrating post into the mix.
July 30, 2004, 5:00PM; post 80:
Bill, there is a couple things I think I ought to toss in the discussion...

There is an old saying in the rock music business that pretty much goes "Rock artists reach their peak by age 30". To me, that's true for a number of reasons. 1) They really have got their A material out of their system by then 2) The energy that they had in their youth is gone, partly though maturity/kids/wives/ex-wives/drugs etc. 3) Musical tastes change

Think of of few examples...The Stones haven't done a decent record since 1978, same for McCartney, Chicago, The Who, or any of their contemporaries. This doesn't mean they aren't good performers, but it does seem to indicate that they were/are well past their peaks are songwriters. Their are a few that defy the rule, Aerosmith is one example, U2 is another. But they are really rare. This will someday be true if it's not already for groups like Mettallica, and think about it, is their an active rap group from the 80's that anyone is paying any attention to?

I just think it's the natural progression of popular music.
Mordeci flipped this post into the conversation.
July 30, 2004; 5:34PM; post 81:

Bill, Glad to see we agree that it all comes down to taste not quality.
You wondered why your favorite stars of old don't get the airplay and promotion that you think they deserve. The answer is posters. Yes, I said posters. kh14 hit it on the head when he said that rock stars die (figuratively of course) at age 30. As they mature their music changes, but more importantly the culture and their image change. Kids want their own style of music that reflects their era. More importantly, they don't want to listen to the same bands that their parents do/did. Therefore there becomes a divide between old people and young people music. Which one gets the record company contracts and promotional money? Music that appeals to the youngsters. Why? As people age they may continue to buy CDs, but they go to fewer and fewer concerts. But the biggest factor is posters, and stickers and school folders and t-shirts. Young people buy them, old people don't. As always you just have to follow the money. Kids' music = greater return on investment. Why aren't there any new Smokey Robinson albums? It's your fault, you don't buy enough posters. Shame on you.
Bill surrenders his position!
July 30, 2005, 6:43PM; post 82

Sadly, I must agree with both of your last posts. It is a general truth that we all do our most focused work in our 20's-30's. So it may well be true that Smokey Robinson has said all he had to say by 1975. And has been repeating himself since. So yes, I concur, that may well be one of the big problems.

And as Henry suggests, those isolated examples to the contrary are just that - exceptions to the rule. That is a conclusion I have been trying to avoid for decades now. So, now I may be able to let go of a good amount of frustrations. My heroes never left - just lost their inspirations, for the most part.

Perhaps, I should also take my fair share of the responsibility in this. I really haven't been nearly as active in buying music as I was in my youth. I remember twice in my youth, I was so into my tunes, that when I was unfunded, I twice shop-lifted the records I couldn't afford. About 20 vinyl 45's, at the shop in the mall. Just tucked them under my jacket and walked out. Shames me to admit that now. Shames me almost as much to confess, I lack the motivation to get my tunes today. Plus, I've now gone honest. Really!! Only stole those 2 times in my whole life. If we don't count the gum/candy my big sister told me to steal when I was 7 yrs. old.

So, now, I feel my best bet would be to go and listen to all the CD's the Temptations and Smokey have released post 1980. I'd probably hear a lot of tunes I like which, while not new, might be new to me! And then do the same for Bob Dylan and The Band.

So nice going guys. Nice chutzpah. Isn't it strange, how by not backing down, we can eventually come to a common understanding by toning down the rhetoric, get simple, honest info across. I knew this thread could do me some good!!
Bill the grateful
AbolishtheDH tossed this one off.
July 30, 2004; 08:41PM; post 84:

There's hope for us classic rock fans. Two acts which retained their abilities to write songs after age 50 (!) are the Allman Brothers and Mark Knopfler. The Allmans 1990s material, especially the album Where It All Begins, is classic. The song "Soulshine" could have been a big hit in the 1970s. And Mark Knopfler is the best classic rocker still writing and performing new stuff. His last four solo discs have been varied and getting better.

1995-ish: Golden Heart.. full of ballads and a couple of interesting rockers.
1999: Sailing To Philadelphia... with one other member of his old band from Dire Straits, this album sounds the most like Dire Straits. It rocks fairly well.
2001: Ragpicker's Dream... Knopfler really shows his songwriting chops here. Only Knopfler could write an ode to Wiley E. Coyote and make it work!

And the best classic rock album since 1994 (AAB's Where It All Begins) would be last year's Shangrila. Knopfler's stuff just grows on you, especially if you like southern-style rock. He seems to sound like that, even though he's British.

Here's my 2 cents on what has happened to the music industry:

1. Videos and MTV killed the desire of record labels to search for talent. Acts like Steve Miller, Journey, Jackson Browne and John Mellencamp went several years before they had a hit. Beginning with MTV, everything had to be a big splash after the initial 'investment'.

2. Cell phones in cars. If we are driving while listening to our cell phones, are we listening to the music on our car system?

Our priorities have changed.
Splendid Splinter to Mordeci:
July 30, 2004: 09:18PM; post 85:

I was just giving Bill some bands that he might like to listen to. Wether they are producing great music or not, I don't think some of those are producing great music either. Just trying to give Bill some bands that would suit his style of music. Radiohead is awesome. Pablo Honey album is great. It might be a little different for Bill so the music is kinda out there, different from all of the other bands... (also like Nine Inch Nails, another band that is creative). Thom Yorke's voice is awesome and one of a kind. Since you like Radionhead, have you heard of Placebo?? Not as good as Radiohead, but their music and creativity is very similar. I would 2nd your vote's for Ten album by Pearl Jam. Great Album, but Pearl Jam is one of those bands that is better live (at a concert) than an album I think.
Therealnod contributed this one.
I wanna talk rock again.

I've been meaning to do this for awhile, so at long last I'd like to plug.

Maynard James Keenan is the vocalist for a band named TOOL, which is currently in the studio working on a new album, which spells a long hiatus for this band: A Perfect Circle. APC was/is (who knows) a side project involving MJK. They have released two full-length albums of original music. Here is the website for APC, and the ten songs available for download on the site.

Bill, I'm curious to hear your opinion of this music. 3 Libras and The Noose are a place to start if you're a little timid, otherwise, The Hollow, The Outsider, and Judith just plain rock hard. Pet I've quoted some of to you before (which dovetails with my point in my last post in this thread if you read everything right, which no one ever does). The lyrics are available on the site and on www.lyrics.com; oops, some of the lyrics on the site and all the lyrics on lyrics.com. Disclaimer: should you choose to listen to/read Judith, in particular, you need to come prepared with an open mind.

Note: the above was meant for, but not limited to, Bill. I made an effort to personalize it to Bill while still speaking to the group.

APC is great, but TOOL is better, and heavier. Move in whatever direction you wish.
VTSoxFan (Annie) contributed this one.

Harking back to rock history for a moment


I was listening to my Dire Straits CD the other day, and there's a little riff at the end of one tune that sounds a lot like something by Richard Thompson, and it made me wonder if anyone else here has ever heard his music. He's not widely known in this country; I'd never heard of him before I went to college and fell in with a real Richard Thompson nut. Hand of Kindness, Shoot Out The Lights, Pour Down Like Silver, Across A Crowded Room and Daring Adventures are among his albums. I used to listen to this music religiously, but have fallen out of the habit, and it's been several years since I listened to one of his albums. I do remember that Pour Down Like Silver was just an amazing album, with one instrumental called "Dargai" that I could listen to over and over. The song "Devonside" was my favorite cut on Hand of Kindness. His work has influenced Mark Knopfler, among many other guitar artists.

So... has anyone else heard of him?
Tyrus Raymond Cobb (Simon)contributed this.
Hi, Bill

Couple of interesting points. Were you aware that Bob Dylan was supposed to have either auditioned or played for the Crickets, but was sacked for only knowing three chords?

You missed Eddie Cochran in your list of stars who didn't live out the 70s. Killed in early 1960. Same crash did not help out Gene Vincent's leg either (another star who didn't make it out of the 70s). Taxi they were in was driven by a "George Martin". The first person on the scene was a trainee PC (Police Constable) who was later the lead singer of Dave Dee and the Bostons, aka Dave Dee Dozy Beaky Mick and Titch (60s Brit group), who sang (amongst others, "The Legend of Xanadu")

I prefer LPs much more to CDs:
Less complicated (you put it on a turntable, and put the needle on the record and it starts playing. This is against coping with a machine where if it is jolted the laser will be out of alignment, which may mean a repair or replacement)
Better sound (warm vs impersonal)
Larger (you feel as though you are getting more "bang for your buck"
Cover art (would you even get anyone trying for the good old days or gatefold sleeves, to list but one example?)

As for "Revolution", apart from the B-Side of Hey Jude, there are 2 more versions: "Revolution 1" and "Revolution 9". Lennon wanted "Revolution 1" to be the single (after the famous "you can count me out", he then sings "in"). Slower and heavier version, but McCartney and Harrison did not think it would "sell", so got him to speed it up. "Revolution 9" is just weird (although not as much so as "What's the New Mary Jane".

I am writing my mini-bio at the mo (I promise to try to keep the subject as close as possible to baseball!), and should have it up when my PC is up-and-running (this is a borrowed laptop - I hate laptops - one of my pet peeves - no numeric keypad, and it has a stupid pad instead of a mouse)
Splendid Spinter (Bart Schutter) threw this one in.

When therealnod was talking about Tool and APC, I figured you would probably not like them very much. Too dark and heavy for your liking really. You keep asking for something lighter or brighter or something familiar to your liking, but Tool or APC doesn't do that. That's like asking the Temptations or Frankie Valli do a Nirvana song. Or something current, it's like Metallica doing a slow love song. (only band I can think of that could make that transaction was Guns N Roses with November Rain) It just doesn't mix or doesn't best suited their style of music. 3 Libras might be the lightest song they have.

For my reason why I like them, well... I don't know really. I don't really have a "dark phase" or anything. It doesn't bring me down or make me depressed when I listen to them. I think they make great music. I'm just a huge music fanatic. I listen to anything and love them for what they are, regardless of how hard or light the music is.

Now having that said, I agree with a lot of what you're saying Bill... but I totally disagree with you on the band needs a songwriter. Look at the Judith's lyrics or listen to the song again, but very closely and carefully. It is actually a religious song. It's about Judas and Jesus. There are other songs too that are great, lyrically.

"And I like some diversity, not monotoned sameness."

I don't know if you meant by their songs or music in general. I agree with you there. Now if you are talking about their CD, it should be somewhat "monotoned sameness" because what one CD that you know that is really diverse?? I mean have a different rhythm or melody or everything in each song. Actually, what song doesn't have a melody/rhythm/harmony?? I can't think of one. Every song has it, but it is different in each one. Something you catch it, sometime you don't but it is there in every song. You probably don't like techno very much because a lot of people think every song is the same, but it is pretty much impossible to make 2 songs the same (now I'm not talking about recording and that would be the same, but starting from stretch). Now if you are talking about music in general... You should have a variety of bands to listen to, but they should be different genres as I should say. Like me, I listen to Tool to Nirvana to Sarah McLachan to Led Zeppelin to Nelly to The Allman Brothers to Green Day to Temptations to Eric Clapton to AC/DC to Usher to DJ Rap (techno dj) and everything in between...

I don't think you are hopeless. I just think you tend to hold the music from the past a little too much. What I mean by that is... whenever you listen to another band or a new current song and if it is "light" and has melody or rhythm to your taste or style, you kinda brush it off like it's not that good or it's not as good as those bands when you was younger. Maybe because you had some special memories associated with some of those songs that you listen to. Now I am like you Bill, I would much rather listen to the oldies than the music that are producing today. But I also like music today for what they are...

All in all, we all have different taste in music and that's what music is about. It's always different for everyone and it changes from year to year. That's what so great about music. There's always something for someone.

Just want to say Bill... thanks for taking the time to listen to that CD and at least try to see if you would like it. Some people wouldn't do that. At least you can say that you did listen to it and voice your opinion on it.

I just thought I would get in this music discussion...
Bristol Boy:
For something a bit more bright and airy but still with a metal feel to it, listen to some Symphony X, especially an album like The Divine Wings of Tragedy. If you're a lover of classical music, there's something there for you, if you're a guitar, bass or keyboard player, there's a lot to appreciate, and if you just like headbanging, you'll love it - I fall into all three categories . Tool and APC are a bit too depressing for my liking - I like a lot heavier bands than those, but not as depressing at the same time, if that makes any sense, Opeth being one such band (but I wouldn't recommend them, they're really an acquired taste).

Just my tuppence.
Bill asked, "Almost sounds like The Moody Blues?"

No. Not in the slightest .

You ever hear any Yngwie Malmsteen? Or possibly, someone like Steve Vai or Joe Satriani, but with a whole band of the same ability, with a very distinct metal and classical music undertone to it. I'm not very good with words, so describing it's hard for me. Best thing I can do is suggest you listen to Sea of Lies - it's pretty much the prototypical Symphony X song.
Splendid Splinter (Bart Schutter):

And it's OK if you don't like Tool. There's nothing wrong with that at all. It takes a certain taste to like that kind of music. It is a lot like Techno too. I LOVE techno, but a lot of my friends hate it with a passion. And the weird and cool part is... only 2 of my friends actually like techno and both of them are my best friends.
TonyK added this:
As an oldtimer I'm stuck listening to my cassettes of my favorite rock musicians after replacing my record albums over the years. Each time I think it's time to purchase CD's and toss the cassettes, I figure the industry will keep one step ahead of me and phase out CD's. I'm asking Santa for an iPod Nano, whatever that is, this year.

I lived in CA when Jackson Brown's and Peter Frampton's first albums came out. If you compare these works to the debut albums of folks like the Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd, or other bands, you might scratch your head and wonder what did they do with their talent. I think fame swallows up the creativity of some musicians more than others. I still enjoy listening to Jackson Brown's first album recorded 35 years ago because I like several songs on it. Just thought I'd mention this since his name came up.
oscargamblesfro added this.never heard browne's 1st album, but i will admit he wrote some good songs on nico's 1st album. never heard the 1st frampton album, and hate his big hits..but i do like some early humble pie. i don't think the dead's 1st eponymous record is very good except for the songs the golden road and cream puff war. aoxomoxoa and American beauty are the peak ones for me.
Windy City Fan had quite a lot to contribute on music.

Favorite Bands: Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Black Sabbath, Van Halen, Jimmy Hendrix, The Beatles, Johnny Cash, Ozzy Osbourne, Eric Clapton, Guns and Roses

Favorite Led Zeppelin Songs: Dazed and Confused, When the Levee Breaks, Gallows Pole, In My Time of Dying, Heartbreaker, Whole Lotta Love, Stairway to Heaven

Favorite songs by bands not named Led Zeppelin: Fade to Black, No Leaf Clover, Master of Puppets (Metallica), Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club, Revolution, Let it Be, Hey Jude (The Beatles), Hurt, When the Man Comes Around, Rusty Cage (Johnny Cash), The Man Who Sold the World, Heart Shaped Box (Nirvana), Paranoid, War Pigs, Iron Man (Black Sabbath) Smoke on the Water (Deep Purple), The House of the Rising Son (The Animals), Sunday Bloody Sunday (U2), When Love Comes to Town (U2 and BB King), Don't You Cry, Dead Horse, Civil War (Guns and Roses)
Hendrix is on my list. Cream I considered covered by my mention of Clapton. Iron Butterfly is a notch or two below the others in my book. I never really liked the Sex Pistols. I've tried, I really have. Kiss I do enjoy a lot. Their music is simple but it still rocks and I've jammed to many a great Kiss song. But they're just not on my list of absolute favorites.

Other bands that I enjoy but didn't make the above list: The Doors, Kiss, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Megadeth, Godsmack, Disturbed, anything associated with Chris Cornell, AC/DC, Pantera, Queensryche, U2, REM, The Rolling Stones, Kid Rock, Eminem, Motley Crew, Areosmith (pre ballad obsessed, pop sellout days), The Smashing Pumpkins, Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Pink Floyd, and I'm sure there are others that are slipping my mind at this late hour.

Hard Rock/Heavy Metal is easily my favorite genre of music. Though I do look back at early nineties pop/hip hop with a nostalgic grin (C & C Music Factory, Marky Mark, Sir Mix-a-lot, etc.). I used to detest country, but I've discovered an appreciation for Johnny Cash and a few other songs (Devil Went Down to Georgia, The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia, Theme to the Dukes of Hazzard, and Thunder Rolls by Garth Brooks are all more than acceptable country music). However, I'm still not a country fan, and most of it doesn't do a thing for me, especially the pop/country hybrid crap like Shania Twain. I do enjoy the blues, but haven't pursued it as deeply as I'd like. Led Zep's blues influence in their early songs got me interested. I do appreciated Robert Johnson's musical genius. In fact, if anyone could recommend a few other blues musicians or songs to look up, I'd appreciate it.

Rap I generally hate, but I like Kid Rock for his amusing persona and rock edge. Eminem is another rapper I do like. While some of his songs are quite offensive/repelling, there is a clear sense that he is simply messing with the people trying to muzzle him and pushing their buttons, only they don't pick up on it. He also has an interesting take on society that comes out in his songs, a lot of it is satire that people just don't get. The other thing I recognize is he strings his lyrics together like no one else does. There is just such a unique and amazing feel to the way his words flow. I don't know enough about music to explain it any better, but its talent.

On Bob Dylan, he's a great song writer and lyricist, no doubt. I've heard his songs performed by other artists (All Along the Watchtower, Knocking on Heaven's Door, and a few others that I can't think of right now) and loved them, but musically his voice is just awful to me. I can't listen to incomprehensible nasal whine.
Grand Funk Railroad, Moody Blues, Allman Bros, Genesis, Queen and The Animals are all familiar to me, and I enjoy their music. And I do love classic Jethro Tull!

The Kinks are a name I know, but I'm not familiar with their music. Hank Williams Sr. is in the same boat, I'll give him a listen. Any songs in particular you could recommend?

New Wave - Can't say I've heard enough to really pass judgment. I've heard a lot of different musical styles given this label, so I'm not even entirely sure what you mean.
Gospel - While I'm not an avid fan, I do appreciate it.
Punk - I'm not terribly up on my punk either, but what I've heard is generally pretty good. But what I've heard is usually considered mainstream punk, the more hardcore stuff doesn't do it for me.
Jazz - My brother tried to turn me on to jazz, but it didn't take.
Latin - Not really my thing
Classic Rock - Right up my alley.
Light Rock - A lot of light rock or pop rock is too manufactured for my tastes, but some of it is quite good.
R&B (Soul Music) - Depends on the artists and song, but I do like some of it. Not an avid fan though. The older Motown stuff rates higher than most of the modern R&B for me.
Easy Listening - Zzzzzzz. Sorry I dozed off there, it happens when I think about easy listening
New Age - Like New Wave, I've heard a lot of stuff called this genre that doesn't seem to fit together. Generally what I've heard hasn't been my style.
Reggae - I like what little crossover I've heard from Reggae to rock (Dyer Maker by Led Zep and Clapton's cover of I Shot the Sheriff come to mind, along with Dispatch's Open up). But I think its the kind of music I'd prefer in small doses.
Broadway - First off, I find musicals to be ridiculous and silly for the most part. However, I will say the songs are generally catchy, even if they can be a bit annoying. However, some are enjoyable.
Big Bands - If you mean swing music here, then yes I enjoy that a lot. My mom and I signed up for swing lessons, and we were going to bust a move for the mother/son dance at my wedding. Unfortunately, my work schedule caused me to miss all but one of the lessons. The instructor said we "danced too big".
Folk - Some of it is a little grating to me, but on the flip side some of it is very good. Its hit or miss,
Western - I couldn't tell you the difference between Western and Country.
Popular (Sinatra, Bennett, Streisand) - I like a handful on Sinatra songs, but the other two make me look for the nearest rope to hang myself with.
Bill, I'll have to check out "The Soft Parade" before I can respond. I'm not a huge Doors fan, but I do like them. I'll get back to you on this one.

As to your other question, there is hard rock being made today. I personally listen to Godsmack, Disturbed, and Tool (though Tool has been around a bit longer than the other two). There are other bands, but these names are the ones that pop into mind. Of the three, only Tool has the feel of a band that will be revered years later.

The decline of Hard Rock mystifies me. Back in my high school days (God I sound old, and today is my birthday) there was a cornucopia of hard rock, under the name of alternative. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, and others led this revival from the poppy hair bands of the eighties. I'll throw in Guns and Roses and Metallica too, they weren't considered "alternative", but they were major musical forces in the early nineties. Yet, only a few years after my high school graduation, the musical winds changed direction again. Softer acts, with folk, ballad, or pop influences became the big thing. The big bands of the Alternative movement all imploded. Cobain died. STP and Alice in Chains broke up, in large part due to certain members inability to handle their addictions. Soundgarden split up too. Pearl Jam went out of their way to sabotage their mainstream careers. Guns and Roses broke up over Axel Rose's massive ego.

A lot of newer hard rock acts have some rap roots - Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, etc. This crossover stuff isn't bad to me, but none of it has the feel of something truly great or influential.

As to most important era, I'd say there are two. The early nineties alternative revolution and the late 60's/early70's. The Doors, Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Cream, Iron Butterfly, Kiss, AC/DC were all making music during this time.

Personally, I think its the music industry itself that is making great metal/hard rock virtually extinct. Alternative was a people's revolution in music. The studios were still pushing Winger and Warrant when all of a sudden this new edgy music blazed onto the scene. (Not saying it came out of nowhere, but it finally broke through). The studios got a hold of the alternative craze and began marketing it, and also watering it down. What we saw was the putrid pap that makes up most of the late nineties. The new metal, while I like it and can bang my head to it, somehow feels prepackaged to me. Its almost like the studio execs realize metal fans won't go away, so they throw a bone to the demographic while they create the next Britney Spears, Spice Girls, or Backstreet Boys in their laboratories .... er studios.

I know some of this sounds bitter/conspiracy theorist, but metal/hard rock is almost by definition not mainstream music. Its edgy, confrontational, and often deals with topics that most people would prefer not to discuss.
Interesting theory, Bill, but I'm not sure I buy it. How do you account for the second wave of exciting, revolutionary bands of the early 90's? DJ's had long ago taken over the dance club scene.

Plus, I can recall a few specials I watched on Metallica, G&R, and Motley Crue. They all talked about playing in clubs in their early days. Metallica recruited two of their founding members because they heard them at a club (Kirk Hammett and Cliff Burton). I know here in Chicago there are plenty of places you can hear bands in a club like setting or smaller, more intimate theaters. It tends to be a mix of up and comers and washed up acts.
Nod: Of the bands you named, only Tool and Audioslave seem likely to become great bands on the level of a Zeppelin or a Nirvana in my eyes. I like Korn and Staind, but they have a prepackaged feel to them to me. In baseball terms, Zeppelin and Nirvana are Cobb and Mays - all time greats, Tool and Audioslave are Rodriguez and Puljos - young guys with a chance to remembered among the greatest, and Staind and Korn are Alou or Tim Salmon, nice guys to have around, but definitely not legendary.

Deftones never did much for me, and I'm not familiar with Slipknot enough to pass judgment on them one way or another. I'm curious what your thoughts are on a few other current hard rock acts, namely Disturbed and Godsmack, both whom I enjoy, but somehow lack a sense of being great.

It could be that in my increasing old age, I'm entering the dreaded "nothing could be as good as the music I grew up with" stage of life.
Very true, Bill. I've heard things called hard rock or even heavy metal and I've thought, that's not very hard and it certainly isn't metal. For example, I've often heard Led Zep called a metal band, but when I grew up metal was Ozzy, Metallica, etc. Zep doesn't sound quite that heavy by comparison. I always classified them as hard rock (also classic rock, since I consider classic rock to be anything still listenable ten years after it was released).

I'd never consider The Beatles to be a hard rock act. Cream, I can see it a little, but they still sound/feel classic to me. Smoke on the Water is still hard enough to be hard rock in my book. And Rod Stewart and hard rock together, that makes me chuckle - which just goes to show how the meaning of these terms has shifted over the years.
2Chance wanted in on the music discussion:

I can’t help putting in my 2 cents on the music debate.

Why? Because, like everybody else who has two cents worth to put in, I love good music. And I happen to support the earlier theory that music was better, on the whole, when I was growing up in the 60s and 70s. (Is anybody else sticking with that theory?)

Not to sound like a troglodyte or anything (is it too late to add the Jimmy Castor Bunch? kidding!), because it’s true that there is a lot of good stuff out there now. I love some of the aforementioned: Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Dave Matthews Band, Collective Soul, Black Eyed Peas, and others. But there is a reason to say that there was more diversity then, and that is because of the still-newness of rock at that time. There is a lot of diversity now, but if I want to hear dance music (and from the bands listed, you can see I don’t), there is a station for that. If I want to hear rap or hip-hop, there is a station for that. If I want to hear country rock, it’s on the country station.

in those ancient times, if they used today’s rules, you would find Poco, The Band, Lynyrd Skynyrd, .38 Special, Jim Croce and James Taylor on the country station instead of the rock station. Who knows, maybe CSN. But these guys all toured together, and you had bills like (and no kidding, these are actual) Three Dog Night playing with the Doors; Santana with Poco; .38 Special with the Cars or John Waite (I went to that last one. A bunch of rednecks showed up and here comes this skinny punk with -- i can’t remember exactly, pink or orange hair to open the show. He didn’t quite fit in.) So that one was as late as 1982. But today they want groups that are similar to tour together, and for the ticket prices, who can blame them? If you spend fifty bucks on a ticket to see Eminem, you don’t want to see Michael Buble open for him. Thirty years ago, it would have happened anyway. And these guys would have hung out backstage, sharing a beverage and talking shop. What kind of things can one of these guys learn from each other, and take with them to use in their show? Yeah, fans of both these guys are shuddering just thinking of it.

Rock stations in the mid 70s would play The Band, Santana, Barbra Streisand, Cream, The Stylistics, Chicago, Pink Floyd, Jim Croce, Parliament/Funkadelic, The Beatles, Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Jackson 5, Beach Boys, Stones, Led Zeppelin, The Osmonds, Frank Zappa, The Temptations, and Firefall. I’d be willing to bet that as much as we claim to like diversity, nobody knows where to find a regular radio station that has this kind of diversity in their playlist. Well, maybe with these artists, and they call it adult classic rock or something like that, but with new artists. Can anybody find Mariah Carey and Tool on the same station? Why not? Because, generally speaking, if you like Tool, you’re not going to like Mariah Carey’s music, and would turn the station if she came on.

Back then there was no place else to go! So the diversity that we have nowadays is enough to create more radio stations to accommodate the new music, at the expense of the individual artists not expanding their repertoire.

That kind of diversity can be found in Christian Contemporary music today, because there is nowhere else for them to go either. Songs that without their message would be considered country, easy listening, metal, “top 40,” rap and whatever else are all in one place in most areas, if you can find the station. Some of these stations do like the public radio stations and program a certain genre at a certain time, some don’t.

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Also, back in the day, there were two basic stations for the rock and roll lover. On the AM side was the squeaky clean top 40 type stuff, and FM got what we called “album oriented rock,” or AOR. The AM playlist was pretty firm, although you could influence the DJs by calling in your requests. (You don’t get much of that today. Playlists are all pretty firm, for the most part.) The FM station played a lot more tracks from each album, which is why people who were, for instance, Led Zeppelin fans knew every Led Zeppelin song. The FM disk jockeys had a lot more latitude in what they could play, and often played some of their favorite tracks from their new albums to keep it fresh for them as well as the listener. AM stations were geared toward selling 45s, and FM sold albums, or everything to do with a whole group. You liked Grand Funk Railroad, not just their latest song.

Today we get a lot of artists who perform one song, and it’s played to death on the radio and/or downloaded, and much of what that artist does never gets heard. When that artist has a hit, they are encouraged to do the same thing again, but better. Under the old economy, they had to do something different so their songs did not sound the same.

baseball junkie
05-29-2006, 02:17 AM
Name: Jere

Age: 20s

Home: Pennsylvania

University: Bloomsburg University

Graduate School: Marywood University

Employment: Reporter

Hobbies: Director, Film Fanatic/Critic, Rare Book Collector

Favorite Movies: Shadow of the Vampire, High Art, American Beauty.....

Favorite Actors: Colin Farrell, Jared Leto, Cary Grant, Holly Hunter, Mena Suvari, Dominique Swain, Asia Argento, Woody Allen, Ciarán Hinds, John Malkovich, Sir Anthony Hopkins, Julia Roberts, Luke & Owen Wilson

Favorite Director: Gore Verbinski, Sofia Coppola, Max Färberböck, Lisa Cholodenko, Kevin Smith, Woody Allen, Mel Brooks, James Whale, Dario Argento, George A Romero, F.W. Murnau, Rex Ingram, Francis Ford Coppola, Quentin Tarantino, Sergio Leone, Steven Spielberg

Favorite Music/Bands: Vivaldi, Beethoven, Bach, Stravinsky, The Beatles, The Sex Pistols, Pixies, Nirvana, The Strokes, Chopin, Artic Monkeys, Sleeper, The Cardigans, Radiohead, Mazzy Star

Favorite Songs: Alice In Chains - Shame In You, Sleeper - Vegas, Bach - Goldberg Variations, Pearl Jam - Tremor Christ, Chopin - Nocturne in c minor, Pixies - Where Is MY Mind?, Beethoven - Piano Concerto No.5

Favorite Teams: NY Mets, Philadelphia Eagles

Favorite Athletes: Tom Seaver, Derek Jeter, Chase Utley, David Wright, Donovan McNabb

The Big C
05-30-2006, 08:34 PM
Name: Cameron Mitchell Ball

Home: Eaton Rapids, Michigan

Born: August 28, 1988

Occupation: Student (just graduated high school, will be attending Michigan State University)

Played Baseball: from tee-ball until sophomore year of high school, a slow-footed, light hitting SS/3B

Favorite Bands: I've only recently started expanding my musical tastes, and I'm fairly open to suggestion, but I am currently enjoying Ozzy Osbourne, Journey, The Doors, Keane, Switchfoot, REO Speedwagon, Styx, Linkin Park, Modest Mouse, Led Zeppelin, Yellowcard, America, Kansas, The Goo Goo Dolls, System of a Down, Whitesnake, Scorpions, Big and Rich, and others.

Favorite TV Shows: That 70's Show, The Simpsons, Family Guy, The Daily Show, Around the Horn, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Futurama, South Park, Seinfeld, Malcom in the Middle, and Baseball Tonight

Favorite Team: baseball-Chicago Cubs
football-Green Bay Packers
basketball-Chicago Bulls
hockey-Detroit Red Wings
NCAA-Michigan State Spartans

Favorite Players: baseball-Sammy Sosa, Ernie Banks, Derrek Lee, Ron Santo, Ryne Sandberg, Corey Patterson, Carlos Zambrano, Roberto Alomar, Babe Ruth, Chipper Jones, Greg Maddux, Kenny Lofton, Tony Gwynn, Alex Rodriguez, and Andruw Jones
football-Brett Favre, Jerry Rice, Steve Young, Joe Montana, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens, Randall Cunningham, and Jerome Bettis
basketball-Charles Barkley, Morris Peterson, Ben Gordon, Kirk Hinrich, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, Steve Francis, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, and most former Michigan State players.
hockey-just the guys on the Red Wings

Favorite Video Games: Kingdom Hearts, Kindom Hearts 2, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2, MVP Baseball 2005, World Series Baseball '97, NCAA Football '06, Street Fighter 2, Mario Brothers, Super Mario World, Metroid Fusion, Sonic 3, Radiata Stories, NBA Live '05, Soul Caliber 3, Super Smash Brothers Melee, Metroid Prime, and Mario Kart: Double Dash

Favorite Books: Harry Potter series, The Count of Monte Cristo, Gone With the Wind (don't judge me ;)), assorted historical baseball books, and others that I have read but can't currently remember and will probably (and sadly) never read again

Favorite Recreation Activities: TV, video games, sleep, swimming, hanging out with friends, going to the movies, reading, snowmobiling, riding ATVs, and surfing the internet

About Me: Well, I was born in 1988, and have lived on the same piece of land my entire life. I have one sibling, a sister. I am a protestant, non-denominational for the most part. I live in a small town lacking much diversity.

I don't know exactly where my love for baseball came from, as my father only watches on occasion. I guess I just enjoyed it because it was more of a thinking man's game. Not everybody is lucky enough to be born with the physical gifts required to be an athlete, but with hard work and studying, an average athlete can become an exceptional baseball player. I always liked that.

I became a Cubs fan because of WGN. The first Cubs game I ever saw was in spring training against the Brewers. I happened to choose the Cubs because my favorite jacket employed a red and blue color scheme. Funny how life works, eh?

I've now spent (what seems to me, in my youth to be) many a summer watching the Cubs flounder in mediocrity. But there was just something about them that kept me watching, and now I'm hooked for life.

I've been to Wrigley Field (heaven on earth) only 3 times, but if I lived closer than 4 hours away and had the means, I would certainly have gone more. I've also been to Turner Field, Tiger Stadium (in the second to last season played there), and Busch Stadium (the old one). Ideally, I would get to all of the stadiums, but I particularly want to go to the house that Ruth built before they stop playing there. Fenway is second on that list.

My biography is not as long or interesting as some because I've spent only 17 short years on this earth. Hopefully, I will live long and well enough to be able to fill some more pages by the time my number is up.

Richmond Hill Phoenix
06-16-2006, 10:55 PM
My name is Geoff.

I was born in Richmond Hill Ontario, in Canada October 18th, 1989. When I was 6 I moved to another town 15 minutes away. It wasn't a big deal though, since I didn't really have any real friends at that point anyway.

When I was six or seven, I started playing baseball. The person who got me into baseball was my dad. He was my coach for most of my youth, but he died in 2004. When he coached, he never treated me like a son on the field, and I'm glad for that. He pushed me just the same as he pushed everyone else, and taught everyone on the team to be a good winner or loser. He was my hockey coach too.

For my team nowadays, I split the catching duties 50/50 with a friend of mine. It's a good deal, because I get time to observe from the bench while I'm not playing, in addition to the observation time from behind the plate. I love catching, just because you have to make decisions, and stay in the game at all times. Plays at the plate are my favourite occurances.

One of my favourite things about baseball in general is it's "nostalgia factor". The ability to always think back about the days of Cy Young, Walter Johnson or Lou Gehrig always excites my senses.

Some other intrests of mine include Golf, and Hockey. I love to read as well. WP Kinsella is one of my favourites, as is the book "Conduct of the Game" by John Hough. I highly recommend it (and all books by Kinsella). I really enjoy Kinsella's work because of the description he puts into his work, that makes you truly feel the situation.

As far as life goes, I like to listen to most genres of music. I especially like listening to calm music. Guys like Jack Johnson, Ben Harper, Neil Young, Tom Petty, and any East Coast Canadian music (with fiddles and such). I also like to play cards with friends. Eucher, Golf, Cribbage and Rummy are some of my favorites.

I love the Blue Jays, and always have. My favourite Jays memory is Tom Cheek calling Joe Carter's 1993 World Series homerun and my favourite ballpark memory is sitting three rows up behind the dugout at SkyDome, and Jose Cruz Jr. tossing me a ball during the pre-game warmup.
Geoff's Official Opinions:

06-22-2006, 09:48 AM
Name: I'll stick to "5LilPlayers" for now (still new here).
Born: January 20, 1973 (33 as of this posting) in Toledo, Ohio
Stats: 5'3" and 150 lbs. (one of these days, I WILL lose the extra "baby fat"! LOL) Bats Right, Throws Right
Positions Played: Mostly pitcher, but I've done everything except catch.
Teams: 1979 - 1984 - Softball for my grade/elementary school - in kindergarten and 1st grade, the coaches liked to put us "everywhere" to see how we'd do, see if we could play every position and/or what our strengths/weaknesses were.
1985 - 1991 - Baseball with a local league that accepted girls - pitched most games, or played 1st base.
1992 - 1995 - Baseball for a church league - solely pitching duties...though had to drop out towards the end of the 1995 "season" as I was pregnant with my first. Didn't hurt in the beginning, but by July/Aug. my belly made playing a bit of a problem.

Uhh....am I the first/only female posting? I haven't had a chance to read every post yet...but I promise I will eventually!

Anyway....let's see, where to start....

I got the love of the game from my dad. I remember, when I was really little, sitting on dad's lap watching TV and the local Minor League park used to be a 5 minute bike ride away, in those days, the Minor League team here didn't have the "season ticket" packages like they do now, or maybe they did and I was just too young to know/understand...but we used to go to as many games as we could throughout the summers. When I was a pre-teen (guess they're called "tweens" now - 10 - 12 yr. olds), my (female) friends and I used to stand on the dugout and do little cheers...goodness were we silly. LOL I don't really remember "when" I really started loving baseball...it was, thanks to dad, always more a part of me than anything I truly "discovered". Even today, I still say my favorite cologne/perfume would be if they could bottle the smell of the leather mitt, the ball, the fresh cut grass and that lovely scent of the "baseball dirt". My mother used to think I was insane. After a game, league or pick-up game, I'd always be smelling my hands. "Why are you doing that??" My reply was always "I can smell the mitt and the ball, mom." in a tone like it was just something everyone did and I couldn't figure out why she was even asking me that. After a while, she finally stopped asking.

Education: I completed high school, but "skipped" college in favor of starting a family.

Of course, that didn't happen until I was 21...met my husband Dec. 14, 1994, we were married May 28, 1995...and I was a month along already with our first (and only) boy. Yes, we were trying...but after we found out, we didn't plan on getting married until after he was born...my mom now lives way up in Michigan, told her I was pregnant, and being as she's still somewhat old-fashioned, she told me, "I'll be down in two weeks, you could get married then. I'll pay for it." Me: "No thanks mom..." then I thought "Wait...she'd pay for it?" can continued with "...well, I'll talk to Jim about it." We agreed so...we did get married a little earlier than planned. 11 years and 5 kids later, we're still a happy couple. Our first little one came 17 days before I turned 23.

Work: Currently I'm a stay-at-home mom. Though I do have a (very small) business...word of mouth only...making all sorts of jewelry. Looking now for shops to take my stuff on consignment or buy it outright to put in their displays.

Favorite Players: Don't really have...and those I do consider favorites, there's too many to list. I think I'll just stick with "favorite team": Boston Red Sox!

Movies: Grease, The Parent Trap (original, not the cheesy updated version), Moving Violations, Just One of the Guys - two fav. 80's flicks....and almost any horror movie. So far, I've only seen one horror movie that you couldn't pay me to see again....Pumpkinhead. BLAH! LOL

As for Sports/Baseball Movies: A League of Their Own is, I think, my all-time favorite, but I also love Field of Dreams and Bull Durham for "adult" oriented movies...as well as Angels in the Outfield, Rookie of the Year, and both Sandlot films for those geared towards kids.

Music: Gee....what don't I like? I've got everything in my collection from Frank Sinatra to Britney Spears...granted, the kids liked her first one much more than I did. LOL Really, the only thing I don't listen to is gospel or "modern-day" rap....though I love the old school rap (Will Smith, Grandmaster Flash, etc.). I don't get into classical much, either. But for every other genre, there are a few songs I'll listen to...not big on country, but some 80's country...and now, Gretchen Wilson...I do like.

Actors: There aren't many males I adore...maybe...Will Smith, Bruce Willis (yes, I even loved Hudson Hawk), and John Travolta (what can I say, Grease did it for me with him). For females...Shannen Doherty, Holly Marie Combs, Lauren Graham, Alexis Bledel, Rosa Blasi, and Lisa Vidal.

Books: Too many to name for me....but going just with sports books, hmm....yep, too many to name again. LOL Though I do love almost anything by Matt Christopher (even ones for the little ones, since I have to read them repeatedly to the kids) and I'm a big fan of the Chip Hilton series by Coach Clair Bee...I give the Chip series an annual re-reading, so glad I found them.

Television: I'm really limited now as for "new" shows. I really only watch Gilmore Girls on the WB (soon to be "CW")...but I do love Court TV...Forensic Files, Psychic Detectives, etc. as well as Discovery/Discovery Health...Dr. G: Medical Examiner, Skeleton Stories, and the like. I've often thought of going into forensics once the baby starts school...or maybe being a writer....I'd love to share my experiences. I was adopted, but found my birth mother 6 days after my 25th birthday...we now live 5 blocks away, discovered we never lived more than 1/2 a mile apart, except for when I lived in Orlando, FL for 3 weeks...and she comes to visit frequently. It was odd, giving birth not with my "mom" there, but my "momS" there.

Pet Peeve: Too many to list in any order.....however, right now, for sports, other than a lot of people (specifically on other sites) thinking that girls/women can't play baseball.....and all this pink! I'm sorry...I guess I am even still too much of a "tomboy", or, since I am way past "legal" age....would that be "tom-man"?...but when I see a grown woman (or even older female teen fan) with the little pink hat, pink team jersey or the like...my first two thoughts are: 1) She must be here with her boyfriend/husband or 2) She must be here only for the men in tight pants. I've never seen a professional team with pink in their uniform, other than the women of the AAGPBL. Mother's Day pink bats/rubber bracelets not included! That was for a good cause. :P I just can't get over the whole "pink thing". I'm sorry, I know it's biased...but I can't help it.

Like many, I also played several pick-up games throughout the summers growing up. A lot of my "tomboy-ish-ness" came from the fact that there were only 5 girls in my immediate neighborhood, and probably around 20 - 25 boys. Even if some were on vacation, I'd always manage to find at least one other person for a simple "game" of catch. Though it usually was teams of at least 4 against 4, usually more. Every single day that it didn't rain, I was out playing...mom always used to say I "smelled like a baseball diamond". Gentle showers...even mild thunder storms...we'd all switch to wooden bats instead of aluminum or metal alloys. But when it was raining too bad to get outside (as I posted elsewhere)...I'd draw a chalk mark on a pillow or couch cushion (mom hated that!) and work on my pitching...setting it against the cement wall of our basement. I'd get out my gymnastics mat and put it on the floor to work on sliding...cement floors, too, had to have some type of cushioning. Plus, I'd also throw the ball against the wall repeatedly to work on grounders and chest-high or lower catching techniques...low ceiling so I couldn't do "high" balls...but I did play outfield often in grade school...I had the arm for it so they'd stick me in right field. I would literally spend hours in the basement on rainy days working and more hours when it didn't rain outside actually playing.

All in all, I think the biggest draw to baseball for me is that you can't "run out the clock" like you can in so many other games. If the score is 10 - 0 and you (your team) is up for their last bats in the bottom of the 9th....there's always a chance that a good rally (and flubs from over-confidence of the other team) can pull you through for a win. In basketball, 3 seconds left, score is 78 - 50...it's not likely you'll win. In football, 3 seconds left, score of 48 - 7...it's not likely you'll win. But in baseball, you NEVER walk out of the stadium until that last out because you never know what can happen.
We have a LOT in common. I recently "finished" a book, biography-type, on my favorite actress growing up...wanted to do "The First Thirty Years"...got sent back with "add more", essentially. My agent thought it best to do the first 30 years of her career, not "just" the first 30 of her life...so, I now have 4 more years until I can complete it, if she stays in the business that much longer, of course. Granted, if she "retires" before then, it'll just be her name for the title or something instead. LOL I still write. Working on three other books. My husband laughs at me. "We should own stock in Office Depot!" Every time there's a sale, I'm buying notebooks, filler paper, pens and pencils, as well as high-lighters, plus those lovely divided folder things, Post-It Flags and the like to keep my research organized for two of the books. One is a personal experience thing (LONG story), and the 4th is a children's book that I originally wrote for my son before his first day of school.

Not so much radio, but TV here....for the games. We get all of the Yankees stuff, nothing on Red Sox much, unless it's on ESPN...and when it is, I'm there! The kid in me actually went to www.build-a-bear.com after seeing how my girls loved their bears from that place. Purple is my favorite color, so I got the darkest purple bear I could find, got him a Red Sox Uniform...and his official name is "Phenwhey". And thanks to the school carnival, my girls won a couple fish...at the store looking for a good aquarium instead of the glass or plastic bowl we'd have to change...my husband decided to get one more fish...of my choice. I saw the Beta Tetra...blue heads, leading into red tails, with a little white/silver underneath. Hubby says he's Patriotic, but we named him "Bahston". Born and raised in Toledo, but a "Bostonian" at heart. I'd love to move there eventually, but I hate being cold and they get snow worse than we do. Oh well...I'll make that sacrifice, if the opportunity ever comes up.

Could you imagine all of us in Cooperstown? That would be awesome! I would love it...and it's not that far. Close enough that the hubby might actually agree. I haven't been posting long, but I already feel like I'm "home" when it come to BBF. Every place else I've been to, in my search for Baseball message boards, forums, chat rooms, etc....have been dominated by the type who think women know nothing about baseball what-so-ever. I'M the baseball nut in my family. My husband is more into football so he's not much help. I don't follow stats and the like, I just love the game...and the "odd" stuff (Did you know Ty Cobb owned 3 Coca-Cola bottling plants?). With all of our combined knowledge here..and the players, as well...we could make a week of it! Day one, fly in, check into hotel, distribute intinerary. Day 2: Cooperstown...spend the whole day there exploring every section. Day 3: Games 1 & 2 at a local diamond. Day 4: Games 3 & 4 at a local diamond. Day 5: Games 5 & 6. Actually, I think we'd have more players than that...but still...divide up the teams by age groups (hopefully enough women to have one on each team)...that would be great!

Diamonds aren't necessarily a girl's "best friend". I'd rather have my husband give me a "romantic" gift like a new style of Red Sox shirt, a new bat, a dozen baseballs....something along those lines would win my heart much more than a "real" diamond.

And along with everything else....yep, my house was "THEE" house to be. Finished basement, so on cold days, we'd be down there just talking, maybe listening to some music, playing a board game, whatever....when it was nice, well, my aunt actually bought me a "jungle gym"...nothing more than a couple swings, "trapeeze", and monkey bars...but somehow, especially during the summer, we always seemed to manage to get 20 kids on that thing. Dad had to re-do the cement "foundation" about 5 times while I was growing up. With so many kids on it at once, we'd always seem to be knocking it loose. Plus, our streets were really....weird. We had a little "island" in front of our house. Just a small patch of grass with one tree on it...street went around all sides of it...but it was perfect for a pick-up game of ball while we were all still in grade school. Once we got older, we had to move to a local diamond...but I'll never forget the summers spent on "our island".

Now, I'm off to read the rest of the posts here. I don't have a printer hooked up to this computer, so I can't print them and read them "whenever", unfortunately...so I'm just trying to get through one page a day...and still check in/post on some of the other forums as well. LOL
On a completely unrelated topic to this....I guess I need to do a follow-up of sorts. didn't say much about my parents, pet peeves or kids....so, here goes:

Pet Peeves:
Hate, of any kind. It's stupid and pointless to dislike someone just because of race, religion, gender or anything else. Thankfully, we live in a very mixed neighborhood. I talk to the kids often, praying they don't get my grandfather's....well...let's jsut say I'm actually surprised we DIDN'T find KKK crap in his effects after he died. I never got along with him, because of that. I was rasied as an only, my parents wanted to give me everything they could, but I was adopted. My biggest fear when I was younger...always planned to find my birth parents...was "What if my dad/mom/grandparent(s)/whoever are African American/Mexican/etc.?" I grew up fearing that my grandfather would hate me if I ever did find my birth parents. Oddly enough...I found my birth mom 6 days after my 25th birthday (she was 17 when she had me, her father made her give me up - she always wanted to find me, too...but her father wouldn't support it until I was 25).....and my birth father's last name? Vasquez. (Though people always said I looked Native American or Asian growing up) Gramps died years ago, but I often wonder what he'd say if he had lived until I found this out. I really think that's my "biggest" pet peeve. I have a live and let live philosophy...if it doesn't hurt me, who cares? I guess I should thank my grandfather, if nothing else, because of his biased ways it taught me to be very open-minded.

Although I give much credit to my dad for my love of baseball...it was my mother who kept my intrest going. SHE was the one I'd turn to for a game of catch, SHE was the one who would pitch ball after ball to me for practicing my batting, SHE was the one who went to all my games. In all the years I played, I think my dad only went to THREE of my games. Being in Ohio, the MI/OSU game is like a religion here. While I'm not big on football, I do root for MI during that game...but I remember ending up in the ER needing stitches...roller derby didn't turn out how I expected. LOL I got tripped...BAD...you could see my chin...down to the bone....dad's concern? I made him miss the last half of the MI/OSU game that year because of it. Granted, I did get the last laughs...they went to stitch me up, I asked for a mirror, doc. said no, I told him he wasn't touching me until I got a mirror so I could see what he was doing....it finally came....and dad had to leave the room because he almost passed out watching them stitch me up. LOL I have two "little" half-brothers (currently they are 18 and 19) and while I love them to death, I grew up seeing how dad treated them...going to all their games...baseball, football, basketball, soccer...whatever they played, he was there. That is part of the reason why I always suspected he wanted a boy...and also why I don't speak to him that often anymore. My mother and I are freakishly close, even though she now lives 400+ miles away.

Oh boy...where to start? LOL

None of them are currently on a league. Son - January 3, 1996 - now 10. Daughter - November 12, 1998 - currently 7. Daughter - June 17, 2001 (father's day that year, told hubby if he wanted anything else, he'd have to get it himself) - now 5. Daughter - May 31, 2003 - now 3. Finally...Daughter - September 5, 2004 - not quite 2 yet.

The school here has a policy that you can only play if you played for the school the year before. I know this is getting quite common, but what about the kids who love the game and want to play, but transferred later in the school year?

I tried searching for teams they could join...and even found out the YMCA has a league for ones as young as 3. Perfect for my older ones. The problem: You had to be a member of the Y. Problem 2: Max family membership for a family of 7 is almost $1000. Problem 3: You still had to pay $59, per kid (no "multiple children discount" for siblings). The $59 I could have dealt with...and I did try to apply for financial aid (you can get memberships for free...or cheaper...if you qualify), but there is no "set" limit, it's strictly a case by case basis...and the committee only meets once a month so....that was out. I am going to try again next year, a LOT earlier in the "season" so we're ready.

For now, the lot of us go to a local park....no swings, slides or monkey bars....just 7 diamonds spread out behind the local high school...8 if you count the high school diamond, but only 7 that can be played on as long as no local schools/leagues have games. The kids prefer this to the "other" kind of park, which suits me just fine! I have made up several "drills" for the kids to work on hitting, fielding and pitching (son and oldest daughter are already following in mommy's footsteps with the pitching). It's nothing like "real" training, but it's what I've got for now. So, this summer, we're working on their skills and hopefully next year, if they're still interested, they'll be able to get on a team. The only bad thing about this year was their ages, I would have been able to put them all on seperate teams...and due to game/practice times being different for all of their ages, I would have been able to coach/assistant coach every one of them. I can still do that next year, but they automatically throw same/close-aged siblings together...mine get enough of that at home. LOL

Dang....I knew I forgot something from my posts. SIBLINGS! LOL

Being adopted, I was raised as an only, but I always just...somehow KNEW I had at least one sister "out there somewhere". Long story short:

My parents divorced when I was 12 and I got 2 half-brothers out of that deal, plus 3 step-brothers when dad remarried.

When mom got remarried, years later, I then gained 4 step-brothers and 1 step-sister.

Then, after finding my birth mom....or rather, my birth mom finding me....I discovered I also had 2 half-sisters through her.

Still haven't found my birth father yet....but according to my birth mom, she said she wouldn't be surprised if there were several half-siblings extremely close to my own age, as well as "plenty of others" older and younger. Guess my birth dad was a bit....uhhh....unfaithful.

All in all...that leaves me (going oldest to youngest OR youngest to oldest)....smack dab in the middle of 13 of us...6 older siblings, me, 6 younger siblings....though I was never officially raised with any of them.

My husband says I should just start my own league, with all the equipment we have. Several bats (various weights, lengths, materials), gloves for all, even the baby (she sleeps curled up around her bat instead of her teddy bears), tons of different shapes/sizes and materials of balls - from wiffle and rag to regulation, plus a couple thrown-down base sets (one without a pitcher's mound, one with)...and I'm constantly looking for more stuff. Not to mention, I always misplace last year's stuff (5 kids does that too ya LOL), and as soon as my new order arrives, I find the "old" stuff (mostly balls). Go figure. The only basic "needed" equipment I'm missing is catcher's gear and batting helmets. I do have a "Swing Away" tee...the ball is attatched to a rope...much like tether ball...so the smaller ones can practice batting, I have two tees...one platic, one rubber with multi positions possible to practice hitting low inside, high outside and other types of pitches...mostly for the older ones, but even the 3 yr. old won't stay away from the rubber tee now. As well as a few sparodic training aids for them. I don't know which they like more right now...swimming on hot days or "playing ball" on warm or cooler days. Just found out that hubby's work is sponsering a game day at the local minor league park, too. They usually opt for the zoo (catered event), since so many of the worker's have kids...but this year...they decided to go in for a ball game. Hubby already has us down for 6 tickets. Unfortunately, he wants his mom to watch the baby...I want to take her...we're really fighting it out over this one. I know she's to young to truly understand the game, but even when I watch on TV, she is the one who watches the most...the 3 and 5 yr. olds usually get bored (though the 5 yr. old did love going to the Minor League game last year). I guess, for really little kids, being there is a lot "better" than watching on TV. Plus, there's no hot dog/pop/cotton candy vendors at home. LOL Tickets are cheap...but the food will kill your wallet.

Okay, I think that's all for now. Maybe I shouldn't have posted here, since it kind of revitalized this thread, but I was so happy to find a place in the forums that had a "get to know you" thread. But I guess it's a good thing, since I have been trying to read everything and I noticed a lot of newer members like myself hadn't even seen this thread. Glad I asked if there was one anything like a "welcome" thread...and happy to be in such kind company here that quite a few people pointed out this thread to me. Hopefully even more will respond. I don't know how many people we have here total, but I'd love to see everyone post eventually...no matter how much they post about themselves or how detailed their posts are. I really feel like I know a lot of you better now...especially those I didn't even know were on the boards, since I've been stuck at only a few forums so far. One day, I WILL get to the Red Sox part of the forum!!! LOL
My rooting for Michigan did stem from my father's love of OSU. Mom, trying to be neutral, would don a pair of my MI sweats and one of dad's OSU shirts. LOL But I have come to love MI more than OSU...even though I'm in Ohio.

"Mixed Marriage" to me is when an OSU fan marries a MI fan or a Yankees fan marries a Red Sox fan, etc. Thankfully, hubby was born in MI so he roots for MI, too.

As for the kids...well...hubby decided to stop at 2...then decided "Well, okay, one more". The 4th was a pure fluke. I always wanted 12....yes, I am insane...but we were extremely careful, being as neither one of us had been "fixed" yet. One night in September of 2002, hubby jokingly asked "Do you want me to get you pregnant tonight?" Of course, wanting more, I said yes....9 months later...4th born arrived. The 5th was a big surprise. I refuse to call kids "accidents" (another pet peeve of mine - especially when mommy and daddy are in a loving, committed relationship)!!! We sure weren't expecting her, but after her birth, hubby finally went in for "The Big Snip". I'm just (still) trying to figure out how I got so many girls, tomboy that I am, even to this day. At least only the oldest (so far) is really what I'd call the "girly-girl" type...but she'll try to "pet" worms and play in the mud, too...so all isn't completely lost. LOL

07-06-2006, 08:28 PM
ok here goes

my name is Dan and I am from Muskegon Michigan which is right across Lake Michigan from Milwaukee and about 3 hours from Detroit.

I was born on September 12th 1982 which makes me 23 years old and share a b-day with Jesse Owens and Mickey Lolich.

I get my love of baseball from my grandfather and uncle who always told stories about the '68 and '84 Tigers. My grandfather gave me my first glove and also my most prized possession a 1968 Tigers yearbook which I had autographed by the guy on the cover....Al Kaline

I graduated from high school in 2001 and college this last May and have yet to find that first job out of college.

my favorite player growing up was Tony Phillips. I learned how to spit by watching him.

I have always been facinated with baseball history, and especially by the phenoms like Ted Williams and Mickey Mantle.

I played baseball from the age of 6-18...and I still play softball.

I have the distinction of playing entire seasons at all 9 postitions except LF.

Outta Here
07-08-2006, 10:18 AM
O.K, this is a better version than last time!

Name: Bradley Meadows
Born & Live in: Liverpool, England
Birthday: 24th August (shared with the great Cal Ripken)
Height: 6'1"
Drink: Not too much
Smoke/Drugs: No
Hair/Eyes: Blond/Green
Married: No. Not mature enough yet, although yes, someday
Kids: Same as above

Baseball: I went to USA just over 2 years ago on holiday, watched a few games on ESPN & that's how it started, I just carried on following the games when I got home, even though it's much harder now (same goes for NFL, NBA, too)! I would love to watch a LIVE Perfect Game or a No Hitter, a triple play turned, a steal of home. I want to see all of the players convicted of using performance enhancing drugs kicked out of the sport. I love Interleague Play & don't mind the DH, although nothing beats a pitcher hitting a surprise HR!!! I want to see homefield advantage decided on the best regular season record, not the winner of the ASG.

Baseball personally: Played the game once at school, no-one was very enthusiastic about it except me!! Played 1st Base & got a stand-up triple in my 1st & only AB (therefore life BA of 1.000 :D). Would love to be able to pitch, effectively & throw a knuckleball. If I played a postion it would be 2B or in the OF as I'm quick & pretty slim. I'd be good as a pinch runner though!

Favorite Sports Teams: 1st, as u may hav guessed- Liverpool FC (Greatest ever English soccer team). They come before EVERYTHING, except of course family, etc! I don't have one favourite team in baseball, although I find myself rooting for certain teams over others quite a bit. In NFL I like the NY Giants, especially as the LE Osi (2nd name too long) is originally from England. I also don't have a favourite in the NBA either. I really like cricket, too, but it comes after all of these. I don't follow the NHL or golf.

Favorite Current Baseball Players: Jake Peavy, Albert Pujols, Dontrelle Willis, Miguel Cabrera, Alfonso Soriano, Carlos Beltran, David Ortiz, Adam Dunn, Vladimir Guerrero, Pedro Martinez, Manny Ramirez, Alex Rodriguez, Jose Reyes, Nomar Garciaparra... too many to list!

Favorite All-Time Baseball Players: Ty Cobb & Willie Mays.

Other favorite sportspeople: Steven Gerrard (Liverpool captain), David Beckham (for his footballing abilities), Tom Brady, Michael Strahan, Dwight Freeney, LeBron James, Shawn Marion, Kevin Pietersen (cricketer)...

Favorite Ballpark: Fenway is classic, I love SAFECO for a modern stadium. Would enjoy going to any park if I got the chance.

Favorite TV: Any sport shows really, The Simpsons & Futurama, The Bill (UK crime drama), most detective programmes.

Favorite Movie: The Matrix, Lord of The Rings (triology), The Shawshank Redemption, Goodfellas, The Godfather 1 & 2.

Favorite Actors: Morgan Freeman, Tom Cruise (before he went all weird!), Bruce Willis, Will Smith (more for comedy value), Robert De Niro, Al Pacino.

Favorite Actresses: Most I like because of looks :rolleyes:, so Catherine Zeta-Jones, Mischa Barton, J-LO (although never seen her in a movie LOL), Hilary Duff, Lindsay Lohan, etc, you get the idea!

Favorite Book: The Catcher in the Rye, Brave New World, 1984, gotta love those Harry Potter, too!

Most admired person in history: Winston Churchill, Martin Luther, Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Ghandi, Mother Theresa, Nelson Mandela (yes, I'm aware he's still alive), erm... Jesus Christ! Also every single person who has given their life/had their lives taken away to save their country (for good, not terrorist purposes), those brave people who died in the World Wars fighting for the Alllies, innocent civilians that were tragic victims of war.

Music: Basically everything; alternative, industrial (indie), rock, rap, hip-hop, R&B...

Other things I do with my spare time: Watch/Play sport, hang out with mates, go on PC/PS2, read, learn French & German, travel (but staying at the place, too), watch TV, go to the cinema, drink & eat too much junk food as I never seem to gain too much weight!

That's about it...

07-15-2006, 11:33 AM
Name: Chelle (Michelle)

From: Washington, DC but raised in Baltimore (Orioles/Colts - (The Baltimore Colts of Indianapolis)

School - Didn't really focus on school until I graduate from college and realized that a history degree prepared me for nothing. Got a masters in criminal justice. Now I work for the government.

Baseball - My dad grew up in New York in the 40s and 50s so baseball was all around him. He was a Dodger (he was a heart broken kid when they moved...my dad had the Dodgers...I had the Colts...*sigh*). He moved to Baltimore when he was 20 my mom and brother didn't like baseball ( :grouchy ) so my dad and I would go when I was little as father daughter time and he would teach me how to score. The first game I can really remember was one with Ken Singleton. And, cotten candy.

Pet Peeves:
People who drive slow in the fastlane
Peter Angelos
When people assume I don't know about sports because I'm female.
middle seats on airplanes
when people talk during movies
players who don't run it out on a grounder to short

A few favorite ballplayers:
Brooks Robinson
Frank Robinson
Cal Ripken
Dave McNally
the Babe
Don Mattingly
Derek Jeter
and.....newbie Hayden Penn

My Favorite Films this Week
the Holy Gail
the Sound of Music
Silence of the Lambs
Billy Elliot
Anything scary...

TV Shows I like
Criminal Minds
Cold Case

Pearl Jam
Anything loud with several guitars...

Things I do when I'm not watching baseball, talking about baseball, or posting about baseball
Cook (I'm trying to learn)

That's about it for me...this was a really good idea.....

Erik Bedard
07-17-2006, 08:45 AM
Name: Dan

Birthplace: Toronto

Currently reside: Halifax, NS

Other stops along the way: Cape Cod, Baltimore

Favorite athletes: Steve Nash, Erik Bedard, Nick Markakis, Alex Ovechkin, Tom Brady, Deion Branch

Favorite teams: Orioles, Patriots, Ravens, Maryland basketball

Favorite bands: Way too many to name.

Education: second year university
Nationality: Canadian/American
Work History: warehouse stuff, sold soup from a truck, IT for a bit
Favorite ballplayers: Erik Bedard, most Orioles
Favorite Rock Bands: allll kinds of them

Favorite Rock CD's:

Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest
The Menzingers - Chamberlain Waits
Jawbreaker - 24 Hour Revenge Therapy
Mint Chicks - Crazy? Yes! Dumb? No!

Music I Don't Care For: metal, mainstream rock
Music I'm predisposed to Like: punk
Favorite Movie Directors: Tarantino, early Kevin Smith
Favorite Actors: Brad Pitt, Glenn Howerton
Favorite Actresses: Aubrey Plaza, Rooney Mara, Audrey Hepburn
Favorite Rock Voices: Zack Gontard, Mikey Erg, Billy Bragg
Technically Best-Made Movies: Drive
Favorite Cool Stuff: Baseball
Hobbies: Baseball, basketball, TV, music.
Favorite Foods: Pizza and burritos. And poutine.
Favorite TV Shows: Parks and Recreation, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Arrested Development, The Wire, Breaking Bad, Daria
Favorite Comedy Stuff: Mitch Hedberg
Least Favorite People: Rick Santorum, Ron Paul, Ayn Rand, Bradley Nowell
My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: Field of Dreams, The Natural
Pet Peeves: selfishness

07-20-2006, 08:03 PM

Height: 69 inches as of now and rapidly growing.

Weight: 120 lbs

Born:1992 (14 now)

Living:Holliston, Massachuesetts

School:Going into Holliston High School this year.

Favorite Team:Boston Red Sox

Music: Punk, Rock

Current Positions:3b, SS, Rf,

Sports: Starting football, a bit nervous (I'm a cornerback). And of course, baseball.

I was raised in M.A. my whole life. My dad is an absolute diehard Rsox fan too, and I have joined him. I started watching the Rsox every day around the middle of 2002.

08-13-2006, 10:44 AM
Name: Adrian
Age: 16
Born: Feb 6, 1990 (same day as the Babe)
Weight: 185

I was born in Toronto and have lived on the Don Mills strip. I have also spent a year living with my grandmother in Jordan Downs complex in Watts, California. Basketball was my 1st love but got into baseball from a schhool friend who played in an organized league. I used to just play on the street with friends from the neighbourhood until I was 9-10. I've been playing competitive baseball since I was 10. Learned how to catch and throw when I was about 6 with my dad.

Favorite Athletes: Michael Jordan, Ken Griffey Jr, Roger Clemens, Mohammed Ali, Babe Ruth, Jackie Robinson, Bo Jackson, Dieon Sanders and Dave Winfield.

Favorite Baseball Players: Babe Ruth, Satchel Paige, Vlad Guerrero, Roger Clemens, Dave Winfield Jackie Robinson and Pedro Martinez.

Other Favorite Sports: Basketball, Hockey, Football, and Soccer.

Favorite Sport Teams: MLB-Toronto NBA-Toronto, Chicago NHL-Toronto,Buffalo NFL-San Diego Soccer-Only Watch WC.

Favorite Music and Artists: Rap and HipHop. Tupac, Biggie, Nas, Jay-z and some Toronto rappers.

Favorite Movie: Anything with Martin Lawrence or Eddie Murphy.

Favorite Shows: Fresh Prince, Wayans Brothers, Cosby Show, Simpsons, Family Guy, to name a few.

Most Memorable moment in baseball: My 1st Homerun.

1st ML Game: When I was in the 3rd grade I went with my mom, dad and grand pa to watch Toronto play Anaheim, back when Mo Vaughn played. Jyas won the game, don't remember the score though.

Hopefully I'm good enough to get a scholarship to at least division 2 university in the states, and if I go pro well that's even better.

Senor Octobre
08-18-2006, 09:52 AM
Wow, really late to this thread. Great thread none the less...

A little about me (Update)...

I'm a caucasian male with brown hair and brown eyes of (predominantly) Welsh, Dutch, Scottish, Irish extraction (along with any number of assorted ethnicities). I self identify as a Celt (I may be white and protestant but I'm NOT anglo-saxon)

I'm a lacto-ovo vegetarian, meaning I eat dairy and eggs but not meat/poultry/fish or any slaughterhouse byproducts.

Born... somewhere in eastern canada, somewhere in the mid 80's

Occupation... Still a student

Interests... movies, music, sports, art, reading, politics, current events, history

Political leanings... Leftwing (although I do enjoy George Will's baseball writings)

Religion... lapsed-christian/spiritual/agnostic/don't care/baseball

First started following baseball... in 1994... the strike season, fell in love with the 'Spos that season, also the first time i suffered a broken heart

Favourite baseball team... Red Sox, like my grandfather before me... Pedro got me hooked in '99

Favourite baseball players... Ted Williams, Pedro Martinez, Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz, Vlad Guerrero, Carl Yastrzemski, Frank Thomas, Jose Vidro, Willie's (Mays, McCovey, Stargell), Fred McGriff, Moises Alou, Robbie Alomar, Mo Vaughn, Omar Vizquel, Dwight Evans, Hank Aaron...

Other favourite teams... Montreal Canadiens, Boston Celtics, Sacamento Kings, Vancouver Canucks, Minnesota Vikings...

Favourite (other sport) athletes... Maurice Richard, Muhammad Ali, Bobby Orr, Hakeem Olajuwon, Bill Russell, John Havlicek, Cris Carter, Guy LaFleur, Marcus Naslund, Chris Webber, Allen Iverson, Steve Nash, Vlade Divac, Peja Stojakovic, Mike Bibby, Daunte Culpepper, Brad Miller...

Favourite films... Unforgiven, The Maltese Falcon, A Streetcar Named Desire, On The Waterfront, The Godfather (parts I & II), M, Little Caesar, The Searchers, Rio Bravo, Taxi Driver, One Eyed Jacks, Double Indemnity, The Wild Bunch, The Big Lebowski, The Night Of The Hunter, Out Of The Past, The Good the Bad & The Ugly, The Big Sleep, Chinatown, Hud, Cool Hand Luke, Yojimbo, Wild Strawberries, Vertigo, Easy Rider, Young Frankenstein... too many to count

Favourite actors/actresses... Marlon Brando, Edward G. Robinson, Robert Mitchum, Peter Lorre, Humphrey Bogart, Clint Eastwood, Paul Newman, Steve Buscemi, John Wayne, Morgan Freeman, Patricia Neal, Lee Marvin, Jack Nicholson, Anne Bancroft, Ingrid Bergman, Carol Burnett, Vincent Price, Meryl Streep, Julianne Moore, Kirk Douglas, Sidney Poitier, Rod Steiger

Favourite TV shows... The Simpsons, Star Trek, Trailer Park Boys, Seinfeld, Cheers, Happy Days, BBC World News, Frasier, Hockey Night In Canada...

favourite musical artists... Van Morrison, Bob Dylan, Neil Young, The Rolling Stones, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Bob Marley & The Wailers, Sam Cooke, Otis Redding, Jackie Wilson, Curtis Mayfield, CCR, Rage Against The Machine, The Pogues, The Allman Brothers Band, Jimmy Buffett, Public Enemy, Boogie Down Productions, Cat Stevens, James Brown, Woody Guthrie, Bruce Springsteen & The E Street band, Sly & The Family Stone, Cannibal Ox, Wilson Pickett, The Velvet Underground, Frank Zappa, The Clash, David Bowie, Sonic Youth, Tom Waits, Dinosaur Jr., Pixies, Miles Davis, Leadbelly, The Byrds, Ice Cube, CSN(Y), Prince, the Replacements, Pearl Jam, Cat Stevens, The Band, Paul Simon...

Favourite Music Recordings (in no order)...

Highway 61 Revisited (Bob Dylan)
Blood On The Tracks (Bob Dylan)
Astral Weeks (Van Morrison)
Moondance (Van Morrison)
Everybody Knows This Is Nowehere (Neil Young & Crazy Horse)
Rust Never Sleeps (Neil Young & Crazy Horse)
Superfly (Curtis Mayfield)
Let It Bleed (The Rolling Stones)
Exile On Main St. (The Rolling Stones)
You're Living All Over Me (Dinosaur Jr.)
Doolittle (Pixies)
Born To Run (Bruce Springsteen)
Nebraska (Bruce Springsteen)
Eat A Peach (The Allman Brothers Band)
Birth Of The Cool (Miles Davis)
Daydream Nation (Sonic Youth)
Maggot Brain (Funkadelic)
The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and... (David Bowie)
Rum, Sodomy & the Lash (The Pogues)
It Takes A Nation Of Millions... (Public Enemy)
Fear Of A Black Planet (Public Enemy)
The Cold Vein (Cannibal Ox)
Black Star (Mos Def & Talib Kweli)
Death Certificate (Ice Cube)
Freak Out (The Mothers Of Invention)
The Clash [U.S. version] (The Clash)
Loveless (My Bloody Valentine)
Tim (The Replacements)

Favourite books... The Grapes Of Wrath (Changed my life), Tintin, Bob Dylan Chronicles Vol. 1, The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, Cue For Treason, The Autobiography of Malcolm X, Blood Meridian, The Apprenticeship Of Duddy Kravitz, basically anything by Michael Chabon...

People I admire most (that aren't in my circle of family, friends and teachers)

Muhammad Ali
Marlon Brando
Noam Chomsky
James Connolly
Bob Dylan
Sigmund Freud
Woody Guthrie
Tenzin Gyatso (The 14th Dalai Lama)
Nelson Mandela
V.I. Lenin
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Abraham Lincoln
Karl Marx
Paul Newman
Thomas Paine
Sidney Poitier
Paul Robeson
Jackie Robinson
Jean-Paul Sartre
Albert Schweitzer
Chief Sitting Bull
Pierre Elliott Trudeau
Malcolm X

People I despise...

too many to name

08-31-2006, 12:49 PM
there may be nothing in this world i hate more than talking about myself but what the heck.

name: Jeff
age: 38
dob: 3/3/68
live: granite city, illinois (aka planet granite)
occupation: slave to the applebee's corporation
school: southern illinois university/carbondale (go big dawgs!)

baseball: i got my love of the game from my father who was a big cardinal fan. his favorite player was stan the man, he talked about bob gibson like he was a god, and he claimed to have played in a baseball game against willie mays when both he and willie were in the army. the man loved his baseball. he says he took me to game one of the 1968 series and i still have txt stubs, a program, and a scorecard from one of the most famous world series games of all time. of course, i was six months old at the time and don't have many memories of the whole thing. i do have many vivid memories of trips to busch stadium with him over the years (and for the sake of clarification, for me there is only one busch stadium; "old" busch was sportsman's park and "new" busch is the new stadium but for me busch stadium is and will always be that place where i spent so much of my youth). my dad passed away the day after the cards lost the 87 series. i really do believe that he was holding on, hoping to see one more championship. my only regret is that my dad didn't live to see the great pujols-my god, he would have loved to watch him play.

so i was born and raised and will die a cardinal fan. cardinal baseball is just part of the way of life here in st. louis (granite city is just across the river). it's in the air we breathe and the water we drink. you can't go out during baseball season without seeing the game on a tv or hearing it on a radio. you can just about go up to a complete stranger anywhere and ask them what the cardinals did last night and they'll have the answer. baseball is who we are here. i know there are great fans all across this country but, in st. louis, being baseball fans is what defines us.

favorite team: 1985 cardinals. i honestly believe that in late june/early july of 1985, the cardinals were playing the best baseball i have ever seen

favorite players: ted simmons, keith hernandez, bob forsch, ozzie, willie mcgee, tom herr, john tudor, joquin andujar, danny cox, tom pagnazzi, bob tewksberry, ray lankford, mark mcgwire, albert pujuls, stubby clapp (just kidding)

favorite non-cardinals: greg maddox (the greatest pitcher i've ever seen-him or carlton), ichiro (would love to have seen him playing for the cardinals in the 1980's), vladi, jeter, pete rose

best game i ever saw: i skipped school one day with a buddy in the spring of 85 and went to see the cards play the mets. a beautiful day, a nice seat in the left field bleachers, andujar vs. doc gooden. it was a fantastic pitchers duel-no score through the middle of the seventh. the cards got three off of gooden in the bottom of the seventh and andujar lost the shut out in the bottom of the ninth. a 3-1 final. the guy sitting in front of me was about 80 years old and had a little transistor radio tuned to the game on kmox. so i got to skip school, watch a great game live, hear jack buck describe the game, and hear stories from a guy who saw hornsby play. and the cards beat the mets!

favorite baseball moment: i once watched two no hitters in one night (http://espn.go.com/classic/s/moment010629valenzuela-stewart-nohitters.html). i watched dave stewart no hit the blue jays on espn and then saw fernando no hit the cards on the local broadcast. during fernando's no hitter, i was sitting there thinking that there was no way that it was going to happen and was hoping that it would-just so i could tell this story. it was the only time in modern baseball history that two no hitters were thrown on the same day and i got to watch them both.

favorite baseball moment seen in person: mcgwire's opening day grand slam in 1998. the single most amazing, electric thing i have ever witnessed. busch stadium was literaly rocking.

best personal baseball moment: when i was a senior in high school, i hit three home runs in one game. each one was identical-a pulled shot down the left field line. i was never a power hitter and was so slow that a friend said i was the only guy who could turn a home run into a triple. but that was my one moment of glory. i don't know how it happened but i really did enjoy it.

other teams i follow: the st. louis blues. go blues! there are only two seasons: baseball season and not baseball season. thankfully, in not baseball season they play hockey.

favorite movies: the big sleep (the plot makes no sense but my favorite movie of all time), the searchers (the best western ever), the longest day (my favorite war movie), alien, blade runner, field of dreams, the passion of the christ

favorite tv shows: the new battlestar galactica on sci-fi is my favorite thing on tv (it's really fantastic and 100x better than the original), cardinal baseball, any baseball, any hockey game, the hot list on espnews (basicly all i watch is baseball, hockey, espnews, and battlestar galactica)

favorite books: the bible, the historical baseball abstract, the lives of the twelve caesers

favorite things (besides baseball): family, my 83 chevy 3/4 ton pickup, a cup of coffee and a cigarette (aka the breakfast of champions), hitting the green on a par 5 in two, my laptop

favorite musical artists: rem, the pixies, u2, oasis, the cure, bob dylan, the beatles, otis redding, dwight yoakum

my all time biggest pet peave: people who use the last ice cube in the ice cube tray and then don't fill the thing back up with water (a problem, it has been pointed out, that i could solve if i got a new icebox with an ice cube maker)

historical people i would've liked to have met: jesus (although i'll see him at a later date), abe lincoln (i'm from illinois-the land of lincoln), thomas jefferson, the babe, pope john paul II

people i'd like to meet: george w bush, stan the man, cindy crawford

i just want to say in wrapping this thing up that, although i only discovered this forum a few months ago, reading what you all have to say on the Great Subject of Baseball has really added a lot of pleasure to my humble existence. before i ran into you folks, i considered myself a knowledgable baseball fan. now i know how much more i have to learn and i'm really enjoying the education i'm getting. thank you all.
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09-02-2006, 01:12 AM
Name: Sean

How BB became beautiful to me: Unlike other sports, the subtleties and nuances, the old chess on grass effect me. I also like being outside to watch a game. None of the other sports have played outside in my local/lifetime.

Born: Dearborn. With a few excurisions into Detroit, that's where I have been my whole life.

Growing up I played the (nowdays dying) backyard baseball, in those mostly now vacant sandlots. Everyday and all day. With 2-3 people hauling the big thermus of water on their bikes. At least 4 games happening in the heat of the days sun. That was my summer, fall and spring. Then we moved when I was 12 y/o (oh BTW I am now 34). My parents figured I liked baseball and enrolled me into the game......

Lots of people thus far have said how there father led them to baseball. My father coached my first organized team. Yet I still LOVE baseball. Having just moved, and not prepared for everyone being the same age, in a ballgame. It did not help as I was thin lanky and not necessarily tall. The one thing I remember about that team, was my dad, even though we stunk always had the line....we still don't have as many losses as the Tigers (this was the 1984 Tigers mind you). He was right we didn't....sure we did not have the wins of the 1989ish Oriorles. Still that made us feel a little better.

It should be noted, as I have in one other thread, that is when I first faced Derek Lowe (yes, that Derek Lowe). From then on I became a nobody on a champ team (remember I was thin) and a stud on a loser team, who pitched against Derek Lowe at least once. I went on to play intermural leagues in my later teens (17), my last organised AB yup Derek Lowe, I hit a horrid bloop single into RF. Please, keep in mind Lowe was a year younger them me and at that time was a good foot and a half shorter then he is now.

That's my BB fever, and how it came to be.

about me...

Other sports I have played (in order)...Beer league softball, Judo (in college), Muay Thai Kickboxing, Boxing, Jujitsu, Fencing, with a little kung fu and teakwondo thrown in for preperation for potential Thai kickboxing matches. I also like Yoga.

So, that pretty much means the other sports I like to watch are combat sports. I even have been known to troll the 5 olympic networks of NBC looking for fencing coverage. UFC, K1, some boxing and then as a departure I like watching Football (even though the Lions have rarely played football right in the last 10 years).

Movies, I mostly don't think these mean too much, but ones I like, all things Kevin Smith, a variety of various Kung Fu films, Jason Stathom films work for me too. I was once a "film video" student and sat through lots of ponderous movies that thinking back stunk.

Music, I love to make noise, I collect and have learned to play at least at a barely musical level about 30+ instruments, getting close to 40. Music I like pretty much everything, although Jazz and Psychedelia and the combination of the 2 move me. Gong is a band under appreciated.

Education...some college a little art school and of course, high school.

fav people...lots of guitarists you've rarely if ever heard of. Brock Sampson and Chuck Liddell.

oh yeah...fav team....Lemme put it this way I like the 2003 Tigers better then all other teams not Tigers ROOT ROOT FOR THE HOME TEAM!!!!

My favorite players..Cobb (from Study), Tom Brookins, John Wockenfuss, and Darrell Evans from growing up. Today I have to admit I like Carlos Guillen, Brandon Inge, Chris Shelton of the current Tigers the most...other teams guys I like to watch Vlad, Man Ram...Some reason I don't like Joe Crede at all. He just took over that vacated, Carlos Beltran role. A guy who just seems to bite the Tigers the wrong way all the time on both sides of the field.

Best game I have ever saw...coming up this season I hope. I do remember Glen Wilson making a great catch against the BlueJays in like 1983.

Fav TV...Venture Bros, 30 days, Simpsons, Shield, UFC.

Books, lots, recently, Short History of Everything, Bill Bryson. Confessions of an Economic Hit Man. anything by Charles Bukowski, Hunter Thompson, Philip K Dick, David Sedaris, and a few others I can;t think of now.

Hobbies, Music and playing it (or at least trying to) sometimes writing bawdy songs behind my horrid playing

Education....yeah a little college

Work....I deliver medical equipment to the households that need it. Being at it for 10 years I can map the entire metro Detroit region in my head. According to studies of London Cab Drivers, my hippocampus must be HUGE.

Fav magazines...Economist, Scientific American, Black Belt.

I can't think of more now.....if you want to know ask.

Not to be an overbearing bunghole (the place you would tap an old wooden beer keg) or anything. But I really like this, and love to look at all the people that come here that, may or may not post thoughts on other forums. But, is there anyway you could link this thread into a few other forums, at least for a little amount of time (perhaps every team forum???, although, that might be Mucho Work?). At least in current events, as I think that is the most active forum on the site? I would love to learn what people have to say about themselves, who I am in some sort of way, communicating with regularly. There are people on the site (Racosun for example), that do not know or have not filled their "Who Are You?" thing....it only makes the site better to learn of the people.

If it is asking to much....ignore and delete. If you think the idea, has merit. Ignore this post and do what you see fit....oh yeah, and delete.

09-03-2006, 05:17 PM
Its my parents fault that I am an Indians fan.

Back in 1954 (a full 7 years before I would walk the Earth) my parents were dating. Both of them being Indian fans their dates during the baseball season would be taking a Sunday - driving into Cleveland to see the Indians play. This was before the Interstate Highway system was in place - so a drive to Cleveland was a full 8 hour drive.

My dad was manager of the family store, and decided that when the Indians made it to the series, the store would buy tickets to the Cleveland games. Since the series opened in NY, the Cleveland games would be the middle 3, with game 5 being a Sunday. Well here is the Indian team who won 111 games, with perhaps one of the greatest pitching staffs of all time. My father, ever the pragmatist, figured absolute worse case scenario, there would be a fifth game even if it meant the Indians would lose the series.

Of course that meant the Indians would lose it in 4 straight.


1) Years later - NBC was running a winter replacement sports show called sports fantasy. The idea was that you submitted a sports fantasy and if it was picked NBC would film it - people were driving sports cars, and doing other strange things. Being the dutiful son - I submittied a fantasy of having the fifth game between the 54 Giants and Indians played. I understand they actuallly got two teams of players together from both teams and played a softball game.

Of course no one bothered to tell me.

2) The Erie Cardinals, then a single A NY Penn League affiliate of St Louis, held its annual Bob Feller day as the inbetween games feature of a doubleheader. I was in college at the time, and a number of us decided to go to the game. We bought a program that featured one of those lucky number promotions - you know the type that feature a free oil and lube, or a free pizza, etc. Well our number got picked. To bat against Bob Feller. After five minutes of spirited discussion it was decided that I would be the one picked to bat. (I think I was at the hotdog stand during the spirited discussion.)
So I grabbed a bat and stood in against Bob Feller. The Cardinals catcher commented about me being a lefty batter (I am one of those statistical anomolies that bats left but throws right). I swung from my heels on two of the slowest and fattest pitches you could ever see. Missed horribly both times. took a couple more pitches, but with the crowd (no doubt egged on by my college friends) calling for me to swing I swung the mightiest swing I could imagine. Missing horribly. (I have since rationalized that I could not bring myself to hit against one of my parents favorite players, and that I take some pride by the fact that I have joined the list of people struck out by Mr. Feller. I just do not tell people that he was in his early 60s at the time, and the only other contestant who struck out was a young child whose bat was bigger than he was.) FYI the Cardinals catcher - Todd Zeile.

Besides my love of the Indians and baseball in general, you will find me following the Erie Seawolves - AA Eastern League affiliates of the Detroit Tigers, as well as the Erie Otters - OHL Champions for the 2001-2002 season

10-06-2006, 06:46 AM
I have been lurking on these boards for a while, and this is my first post, is that ok?

Name - Colin
Age - 27 soon
Nationality - Scottish, not British, Scottish.
Born - Bellshill, Scotland
Reside - Falkirk, Scotland

Why do I like baseball?

One day in April 2006 I was vaguely aware that there was a sport named baseball. The very next day I was an avid Pirates fan and I had begun 6 months of watching MLB.TV until 2am. I don’t know exactly what happened in between to cause this, or if I should go to the doctors, but here is the rough story:

On a forum for my favourite soccer (football really) club, Motherwell, I stumbled upon a baseball discussion. During the course of it I was told that since I am a huge cricket fan and player that I might appreciate the sport and that I should choose a team to follow.

Now, following a team is not something I take lightly. It is something I need to put everything into, I need to feel some sort of connection with the team so that I can feel just as proud as anyone when they do well and equally gutted when they don’t. So, I asked my wife, who is American. Her family isn't huge on baseball, but the ones who are, support the pirates. With that tenuous link I did some reading.

The first thing that earned the buccos a place in my heart was the fact that they were pretty dire, something I can relate to being a die-hard Motherwell supporter. I also didn't want to be just another Yankees or Red Sox fan because of their global branding.

The second thing was their rich history and stories of Roberto Clemente.

The third connection was that Pittsburgh is the 'steel city' or 'iron city' and my hometown was known as the steel town. This all changed when the evil Margaret Thatcher closed down our steel works in the early 90's and effectively ruined the town, plunging far too many people into unemployment, she is a cow. However, Motherwell Football Club is still known as 'the steelmen.'

Fourthly (can I say fourthly?) I love cricket. The only similarities between cricket and baseball are that someone delivers the ball and someone else hits it, you're out if the fielder catches it and supporters are obsessed with stats. We also play in pyjamas just like you.

Lastly, I mean finally, I just fell in love with the pirates and chose to purchase mlb.tv for a month in exchange for cancelling my cable. My first live game was the bucs v cubs on April 14th. Sean Casey injured his back and being the naive person that I am, I though that was a good thing since I liked Craig Wilson. We lost 6-11.

So I watched us lose some more for another few months, and just got more into the sport. I was starting to get funny looks from my cricket teammates due to my tendency to use baseball jargon, and then my attempts at pitching one night at training.

If you think I am sad and pathetic, then I wont tell you that I received a pirates home jersey and cap in the mail yesterday. This all may look rather lame to some of you lifetime baseball fans, and even more lame to you native Pittsburgher's, but I've spent my whole life looking lame due to my sporting choices so bring it on! :laugh

Who am I?

I play for Westquarter and Redding Cricket club - Shameless website plug (http://www.wrcc.org.uk)

I am a bowler, equivalent to your starting pitcher. I am a lefty and my 'stuff' is, a medium pace ball, an inswinger, a leg cutter, and what is known in the business a 'cafeteria ball’, which means help yourself. I am a left-handed hitter and can hit thin air as far as any man. I field in various positions and won the trophy for best fielder this season.

I maintain the above website.

Sporting Idols - Brian Lara (cricket) Davie Cooper (soccer)

Fave Baseball Player - Jason Bay

Pet Peeves - Just about anything if I haven't had coffee, other than that I'm rather difficult to annoy.

My favourite bands are: Pink Floyd, Muse, Stone Roses, 'tallica, and Pink Floyd again.

Films: Pulp Fiction, Fight Club, Usual Suspects.
Books: Survivor (Chuck Palahniuk), The Stand, Dark Tower (Stephen King) His Dark Materials (Philip Pullman)

I hope you didn't mind reading all of that. I will break myself gently into posting real baseball stuff, because I don't want anyone laughing at me.

10-08-2006, 02:24 AM
Well I'm bored and have nothing to do soooooooo

Name: Scott Roemer
Born: June 12, 1988 in Louisville, KY
Height/Weight: 6'1; 165
Current Location: Louisville, KY
Education: Attended Louisville Male High School until May 2006 (some notable alums are Darrell Griffith, Michael Bush, Chris Redman, Junior Bridgeman, Louis Brandeis and Larry O'Bannon) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisville_Male_High_School ; Am currently going to Jefferson County Community College and will be transfering to Louisville (most likely) and walking onto their baseball team in a year or so

Why I like baseball: Well back when I was around 8 or 9 I didnt really watch too much baseball, then my brother started a Diamond Mind League and I ended up joining it when I was 11, my dad was also in it... I didnt really know many players and I think my first pick I took Barry Bonds, thats really the only pick I remember... Due to needing to know players and such have watched baseball and became very knowledgeable, went form not knowing many players to knowing almost every major league player and most minor leaguers

Work: Well am a kitchen manager for a restaurant in Louisville, but mainly make most of my money playing online poker

Favorite ballplayers: Brad Ausmus, Brandon Backe, Octavio Dotel

Favorite Movies: Anchorman, The Green Mile, The Shreks, 61*, Men in Black, The Rockys, Meet the Parents, The American Pies, American Wedding, American Beauty, Phonebooth, Independence Day, Saving Private Ryan, Forrest Gump, Gladiator, The Spider Mans, Jerry Maguire, Hoosiers, Eight Men Out, Field of Dreams, Tin Cup, Bull Durham, Caddyshack, The Color of Money, White Men Can't Jump, Spartacus, the old Godzillas, The Jaws, Any James Bond Movie, The Ring, Igby Goes Down, Man On Fire, Remember the Titans, Finding Forrester, Waterboy, Any Given Sunday, Troy, Ocean's Eleven, JFK, The Postman, Return of the Texas Chainsaw, House of 1000 Corpses, A Time to Kill, Truman Show, Snakeeyes, Office Space... the list goes on

Favorite Music: I can listen to anything but extreme hard rock where they bang and scream, thats just dumb... mainly listen to classic rock tho

Greatest Atheletes of the 20th Century?: The most dominant has to be Tiger Woods

Hobbies: Golf, Basketball, Football, any sports really... Poker aswell, I have a gambling problem

Baseball Background: Well... started with T-ball, went up thru 15 year old whatever it was called, played my freshman and sophomore years in high school for the JV team, played Varsity junior year and did not play senior year due to me not really trying at school, and my grades being too bad for my parents to allow me to play... Would like to get a scholarship to play somewhere, but that is doubtful and will most likely walk onto Louisville, Western Kentucky or Lindsey Wilson when I transfer

My Teams: Louisville Cardinals, Houston Astros, Kansas City Chiefs, Milwaukee Bucks, Tampa Bay Devil Rays

Not really sure if I forgot anything, but I'll edit it later if I think of somethin else

10-08-2006, 06:28 PM
Name: Steve Reid
Born: August 26th 1992, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
Height/Weight: 5'3 123
Current Location: Biggar, Sk
favorite teams: Toronto Blue Jays, Philli eagles, Syracuse SKychiefs, Toronto Maple Leafs, Saskatoon Blades
Married: no
Places lived: Biggar, Saskatoon

Nickname: Steve-0

Age: 14

Favorite Music: Led-Zeppelin, AC/DC, Kiss

Favorite players: Roy Halladay, Brandon Phillips, BJ Ryan, Vernon Wells

Favorite teams: Toronto BLue Jays, Syracuse Chiefs

Other hobbies: Hockey, Football

Sports life: Baseball Outfielder (Rookie of the year), Football Kicker/Punter (most field goals in one year for my school record), Hockey Goalie (I'm pretty bad...)

10-09-2006, 06:32 AM
My name is Andrew

I live in Denton, TX (just north of Fort Worth and Dallas)

I am a Deputy Sheriff in Denton County. I work as a bailiff, after putting in 5 years on the Drug interdiction team.

I am a big collector of autographs. I am trying to get my website up and running.

Being a military brat, I've lived all over the world.

My baseball loyalties are unique. My favorite team is the Red Sox with the Rangers a close second. I base my interest not on my favorite teams, but on the teams I dislike the most. I would much rather watch a Yankees or Giants team loose than see my team win. Wierd. I am not sure why this is.

Favorite baseball moments;

2004 Playoffs-then WS
My first trip to Fenway in 1985
Having dinner with Tommy Lasorda in 1992. (My father is a longtime friend of his)

I don't really have a favorite player, but I really enjoy watching Michael Young play. I believe that he is the most underrated player in MLB right now.

My favorite baseball movie would be either Field of Dreams or Eight Men Out.

I don't really read to many books, but I enjoy Teamates

My favorite musical groups or singers are;
Jeremy Camp
The After
Pat Green

I am very dissapointed with the state of MLB today, more specifically the Rangers. I don't go to many games. I just can't spend 100 bucks to see the crap they put on the field. My family and I really enjoy our local minor league team the Frisco Roughriders. We also have season tickets for The Denton Outlaws. They play in the Texas Collegiate league, which is a summer college league that is said to rival the Cape Cod league.

I know that this won't be popular on this board, but as the years pass, I am becoming less and less of a baseball fan, and more of a fan of football and hockey. After all, Football is a religion in Texas.

Thanks. See ya'll later.


John Burris
10-10-2006, 08:34 PM
This is information I've since decided I would rather not share.

10-12-2006, 07:36 PM
Here is an updated bio:
Name: Bob (sometimes called Robert) Bransdon
Age: 59 (as at this latest edit!)
Born: Wauchope, NSW, Australia 1952
Lived in Clovelly NSW 1954 to 1991
Lived in Marrickville NSW from 1991 to Dec 2003
Lived in Berkeley Vale NSW from Dec 2003 - March 2010
Present in Las Vegas NV)
Education: Clovelly Public thru grade 6
Randwick High School grade 7 thru 12
Some additional education but not full time college
Nationality: Dinky Di Aussie
I came by my BB passion from: Finding the site and learning all the time about the game, and being able to take part in lots of discussion about the game.
Work History: 6 months in a bed making factory 1970
6 months as a rubbish remover/contract cleaner 1970-71
30 years in a shipping company 1971-2001
Since 2001 part time Emcee/Commentator, Wine tasting facilitator, Bottle Shop (Liquor Store) attendant.
Favorite ballplayers: Aaron Miles, Matt Kemp, Andre Ethier, Eric Karros, Clayton Kershaw, Russel Martin, Pete Rose
Best Friend: My wife
Baseball: Have never played baseball. First gained interest during vacation tour of USA in 1978 when I was following the exploits of Pete Rose. Saw 1st ever live game that year at Montreal stadium. Became entrenched in the game after visiting Dodger's Stadium on May 22 1986 (where I met my now wife).
Favorite movies: The Graduate, One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid, The Crying Game, The Green Mile & anything with Robin Williams
Favorite Rock Acts: Eric Burden & The Animals, Beatles, Moody Blues, Men At Work, to name just a few
Favorite Rock CD's: Too many to name.
Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: Most of the Animals
Favorite Rock Geniuses: Billy Joel, Elton John, The Beatles
Favorite Rock Voices: Neil Young
Favorite Rock Guitarists: Eric Clapton, Mark Knoffler
Favorite Rock Drummers: Ginger Baker
Music I Don't Care For: New Wave, Punk, Rap, Hip Hop.
Music I'm predisposed to Like: light rock, Easy Listening, 60's, 70's & 80's rock, some classical, some country, some jazz
Favorite Classical Music: William Tell Overture, Bach, Chopin
Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jesse Owens, Don Bradman, Trevor Hendy,
Favorite Basketball Players: Shane Heal, Andrew Gaze, Larry Bird, Kobe Bryant
Favorite Football Runners: Quarterbacks who run the ball, Rugby back lines who throw the ball around (NZ All Blacks are the masters)
Favorite Movie Directors: Steven Spielberg, Peter Weir, Alfred Hitchcock, Ron Howard
Favorite Actors: Robin Williams, Al Pacino, Clint Eastwood
Favorite Actresses: Julia Roberts, Helen Hunt, Sandra Bullock, Helen Mirren, Judy Dench
Favorite Books: The Bible, any good mystery.
Favorite Sports Books: Most I have read
Favorite Ice Dancers: None
Those I Admire Most: Jesus Christ, Volunteers, such as fire fighters, surf life savers etc.
My Most Admired Americans: Jesse Owens, Lance Armstrong
Favorite Mixed Martial Artists of the Ultimate Fighting Championships: None - can't stand this so-called sport.
Favorite Cool Stuff: Wine trade shows
Hobbies: Swimming, body surfing, wine, golf
Favorite Foods: Enchiladas, Laksa, a good roast dinner.
Favorite Comfort Junk Food from Childhood: Ice cream
Favorite Colognes: Aramis, Old Spice
Favorite Rock Tunes: House of the Rising Sun, Land Down Under
Favorite TV Shows: Packed to the Rafters, The Mentalist, Criminal Minds, The Closer, CSI (all of them), Northern Exposure, Soap, Big Bang Theory
Favorite Comedy Stuff: Good Stand Up and most British comedies
Least Favorite Comedy Stuff: American copies of British comedy shows.
Least Favorite People: Robert Mugabe, Politicians & Dictators
Favorite TV Characters: Conchata Ferrell/Berta (Two and a Half Men), Simon Baker/Patrick Jane (The Mentalist), Jamie Farr/Klinger (MASH), Ted Danson/Sam Malone & Becker (Cheers & Becker), Jim Parsons/Sheldon Cooper (Big Bang Theory)
My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies:
I hope Fever members see me as . . .:A slightly baseball ignorant Aussie willing to learn more thru these forums and take part in discussions.
One who likes a chat
One who does not agree with the "World Champios" tag for the North American MLB Champions
One who enjoys reading about baseball worldwide.
Hopefully, an affable sort of guy
Favorite Teams: Los Angeles Dodgers, San Francisco 49ers, Los Angeles Lakers, Sydney Roosters, NSW Waratahs, Central Coast Mariners, Manchester United
Pet Peeves: People who talk on the cell phone while expecting to be served in stores.
People who use cell phones while driving
Intolerant people,
Media sensationalism,
Poor drivers
Brief Notes on Dad: Divorced from Mum when I was 2. Did not know him.
Brief Notes on Mom: Was loving and tolerant.
Photos of me: .

I hope this comes out.....me at work at a wine tasting.

That was a stinking hot day and I was the only promoter who chilled the red wines down so I was very popular with the tasters. Pinot Noir is very nice with a little chill on it.....not to the extent of white wine though. I have a tasting to conduct this coming Friday. Not a full time job but when I get a gig I enjoy it.

Exactly! I love a chilled Pinot Noir, for which I caught flak over the holidays amongst my supposedly wine-enlightened family...

It's really nice to know what you look like, DUD! A handsome lad, indeed. :waving

Thanks Keystone.

I know this is a little off baseball (although I am sure lots of people drink wine at ball games so this is hint for those who do ;) ) but I have been told by a number of wine makers that on hot days red wine should be chilled to take the heat off it. The optimum temp for drinking red wine is around 15 deg C (59 deg F). When it is at too high a temperature the alcohol rises and the flavour of the wine reduces. I tell that to many people who come into the bottle shop (liquor store) in which I work or when I am conducting a wine tasting, and get some strange looks but when I explain it they seem to understand. I have had people come back and thank me for the hint.

At the moment I have a bottle of 2003 Shiraz (Syrah) in the fridge....after all it is summer here and it needs to be cooled a little.

I don't think I could buy a decent glass of wine at the AA park here in San Antonio! :laugh But I can guarantee that it would be hot enough here to take advantage of your hint.

We're buying lots of good Australian wine here in Texas. It always gets good reviews. Mmmm -- 2003 Shiraz.... Uh, yeah. That would be the 2003 Shirazes, who played in that independent league in Alaska. :D They made the playoffs that year with JD Drew's little brother holding out on his MLB contract. Drank some great wine after they won. An excellent bottle of Ripple, I believe.
A shot of me commentating at recent NSW State Surf Life Saving Championships. Not exactly an air conditioned broadcasters box!!

You're the one on the left, right?

Correct!! The rope hanging down the side is part of the technology we used.....it had a bulldog clip on the end so all the race draws could be attached (note the piece of paper on the end of the rope) so I was aware who was in which race!! :D
The young lady is the grand daughter of one of the rowers who also acts as a beach official.

That is some high-tech system, DownUnder. I am really impressed! Grandaughter? Wow, we must be getting old...

10-13-2006, 11:33 AM
Name: Tim
Age: 32
Born: Bronx, NY 1974
Lived in Danbury, CT, Palm Harbor, FL, Wilkes-Barre, PA, Atlanta, GA, Hazleton, PA, Middltown, PA (Current)
Danbury HS
King's College, BS in Pyschology
Widener University, MSW

10 years in the drug & alcohol addictions field/social work

Family: Wife of 9 years

Best Friend: My wife

Baseball & sports career: I began playing organized baseball at the age of 7. From that time until the age of 17 when I stopped playing, my father was my baseball coach for all but 1 year. I played primarily catcher but also played the outfield and second base. I played the outfield when I first started playing because I was the only one on the team that could catch a fly ball. I played catcher for two reasons: 1. I always loved the strategy of the game & 2. I enjoyed being involved in every pitch.

Side note about my father as a coach: My father was great as a coach and coached how everyone should – he taught the game and didn't care about winning and losing. He was more concerned that myself and the other kids learned the game correctly and had fun. Example: Every year the local league would hold a draft, where each coach "drafted" their players. My father always drafted me first for obvious reasons. Then he would draft another kid, who was terrible. He couldn't catch, barely throw, and didn't hit much. But my father drafted him every year because he knew that the kid would show up for all games and practices and my father liked his dedication. This kid and I later became good friends and continue our friendship to this day. One thing that my friend still talks about to this day is the first time that my father allowed him to pitch because it was always something that my friend wanted to do. My father simply told him to throw it over the plate and let the kids hit the ball. The defense would do the rest. He pitched a complete game shutout, giving up three hits and walking none. I was the catcher and like to think that I called a good game.

I stopped playing baseball when I realized that I wasn't going to be a MLB player like I wanted. I then began to run track in high school and was elected to the all-county, all-state, and all-New England teams my Junior and Senior years running the 100, 200, & 400 meter races as well as the respective 4 by teams. Then I went to college and discovered females and alcohol. And the rest is history. Never played any other organized sports.

Favorite Baseball Players: Jackie Robinson, Lou Gehrig, Ted Williams, Carlton Fisk, Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman, Jerry Grote, John Stearns, Cal Ripken, Jr., Roy Campenella, Gil Hodges, Buck Leonard, Satchel Paige, Josh Gibson, Craig Skok, Jerry Remy, Bob Stanley, Dave Magadan, Lenny Dykstra, Howard Johnson, Kevin McReynolds, David Wright, Jose Reyes, Tom Glavine, Greg Maddux, Ryan Howard, Aaron Rowand, Bobby Doerr, Johnny Pesky, George Kell, and many others that I am currently forgetting.

Favorite Artists: Dave Matthews Band (DMB, Duh), Shame (local band), Jack Johnson, John Mayer, Bare Naked Ladies, Led Zepplin, Bob Marley, Eric Clapton, Louie Armstrong, Frank Sinatra (seriously), Mozart (again seriously), Beethoven (see Mozart), Chopin (see Mozart again), De La Soul (don't really know why, just do)

Favorite Books: I read just about anything, depending on my mood. Mostly I like the classics such as Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, Dracula, Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde, mostly anything by Stephen King especially The Shining, The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon, The Green Mile, The Dreamcatcher, anything about the Vietnam War, and anything about baseball especially the Brooklyn Dodgers (The Boys of Summer, The Duke of Flatbush, Jackie Robinson & Me), The Homerun that Changed America (about Aaron's homerun chase in 1973/74), Now Batting for the Yankees, and anything about the minor leagues.

Favorite Movies: Don't really have many but some movies that I will watch again and again are The Natural, Braveheart (there are rumors in my family that William Wallace is a distant relative, but I don't believe that they are true), Glory

Favorite Teams: NY Mets, NY Jets, NY Rangers (but I haven't followed hockey much since the strike/lockout) & Michigan Wolverines (as a kid I loved the look of their uniforms and have become a rabid fan ever since especially since I live in the heart of Penn State territory)

Favorite TV: Not many but the ones that I watch religiously include Dirty Jobs (makes me laugh), American Chopper (again makes me laugh), House, Prison Break, and any baseball game.

My bio: I grew up in a middle class family with my parents, who just celebrated 40 years of marriage, and my two older brothers (we're all 3 years apart). Father was a college graduate who worked as a pharmaceutical salesman for 20+ years until he was forced out for ageism and now owns his own business. My mother was a high school graduate who worked as a teacher's assistant while I was a kid. Both were born and raised in The Bronx (Parkchester). Graduated high school and went to college in Wilkes-Barre, PA, which is where my mother's family is originally from and still have family there.

While at college, several things happened. I fell in love my freshman year with a girl who I would later become engaged to. We became engaged the year that both of my parents lost there jobs due to ageism (father) and company moving out of state (mother). Because of their age and company's not willing to hire people in their 50's, my parents moved to Atlanta, GA. At the time, they couldn't continue to help pay for college, so I took a year off from college and moved to Atlanta with my parents and took a year off from college.

During this time, I was a lost soul and was "experimenting" more than I should. I was waiting tables full time at a country club and working part time at a sports card store. One Sunday, while working at the sports card store, a woman walked in looking for cards of Craig Skok (he only has one 1979 Topps). The store didn't have any but I had one in my personal collection, which I stated she could have the following week when I was working. When she returned, I found out that she was Craig's wife and that they were working with MLB Players Alumni Association and Muscular Dystrophy Association on a two day charity event. She invited me to join the planning committee, which I did. I worked very hard for 6 months helping with this and helped to raised over $150,000 for the two days. Because of the experience, I rededicated myself to my education and began my career in the human services/social work field. I was able to discover myself and find my way. I continue to keep in touch with Craig and his wife with a sense of gratitude for helping to find my way.

I graduated from college, married, and have enjoyed a rewarding career. I currently work for a medical center that is a government facility dedicated to care for military veterans.

My hero: Simply, my father. My mother played a big role in my life, but I have always looked up to my father. He is the one that instilled my love and passion for baseball. Baseball was the basis for our relationship for many years because my father was never the type to show his emotions openly. So, we relied on baseball to bridge that gap. My father would tell me stories of the greats that he grew up with in The Bronx. He would tell me about the Yankees that he saw play including Mantle, Ford, Berra, Howard, et al. and how he and his friends would ride the train to Yankee Stadium and get into the games after the 2nd inning for 10 cents. He would always sit in RF when the Yankees played the Tigers so he could watch his favorite player, Al Kaline.

My father and I would watch endless games and I would ask him question after question that he would answer. My first in person game was Brewers-Yankees at The Stadium. I don't know who pitched or who won. I didn't care because I didn't like the Yankees. My first game at Shea Stadium was May 22, 1983, my birthday. Tom Seaver was pitching and this was the year that Tom Terrific returned from his exile in Cincinnati. It was batting helmet day and I thought that was so cool. Since that time, I have bled Orange & Blue and later enjoyed the 1986 World Series Championship.

My father taught me how to throw, catch and hit. He and I would have endless catches. I remember eating dinner and then asking my father to have a catch. He would always look at my mother, who would say "Go ahead. I'll clean up." I always loved her for that. My father would eventually put a flood light in the backyard so that we could have catches until 9 or 10 at night.

When my father lost his job after 20+ years due to ageism, my parents moved to Atlanta. My father had some difficulty finding a job and took a job as a salesman in a large department store during the Christmas season so that he had money to buy Christmas gifts. That year he gave me a tie. Years later, my wife asked if she could throw the tie out because it was ugly. I told her the story behind it and she took it later that day to be dry cleaned and has ensured it has had a place in our home ever since. She's wonderful. Several years later my father started his own business that he recently sold for a nice profit.

My father has taught me many things including the meaning of family and the importance of your wife being your best friend. The importance of hard work and determination. The importance of treating people like human beings and never backing down from your beliefs and values.

When I was 18 and a freshman in college, I wrote my father a letter stating everything that I felt for him but never said. I told him that if I were to be half the husband, half the father, and half the man he is, I would consider myself to be very successful. My father later called me when he received the letter and that was first time that he told me that he loved me. Now, we don't end a conversation without those words being said. We speak at least two times a week despite living 600 miles apart. Years later, my mother told me that my father cried when he read the letter and still has the letter.

A final note: Because of my work with military Veterans, especially Veterans returning from Iraq & Afghanistan, I want to thank all of you that have served in the military, are currently serving in the military or have/had loved ones that served/are serving in the military. I am truly grateful for the things that I enjoy everyday.

That's my story and I've grown quite attached to it.

Yes, my wife is the same girl I was engaged to in college. Believe it or not, she hated baseball when we first met, but agreed to a weekend getaway to Cooperstown when we first started dating. When we were about half way through the museum and were standing in front of the Bic pen Catfish Hunter used to sign the first 1 million dollar contract, she asked "Who would save all of this crap?" Everyone looked at her in disgust as I simply walked away and pretended that I didn't know her. She has since become a great student of the game but is unfortunately a Braves' fan. She does however have a crush on David Wright, but so do I.

DMBfan is the screen name that I use on most post and stands for Dave Matthews Band fan, which I am an avid fan of since my days in college.

Thanks for the feedback.

Red Sox Rule
10-13-2006, 06:10 PM
Name: Adam Corlett
Age: 18
Born: Newcastle upon Tyne, England 1988

10-16-2006, 01:04 PM
Math at Iowa State University

Baseball players: Lou Gehrig, Mickey Mantle, Derek Jeter, Joe Dimaggio, and Yogi Berra

Football players: Emmitt Smith, Ray Lewis, Deion Sanders, Terrell Owens, Michael Irvin.

Movies THE DEPARTED (seriously an amazing movie best I've ever seen), Fight Club, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, Momento, Insomnia, Mullholland Drive, Thirteen, Amecian History X, Resivor Dogs, Old School, Clerks, Clerks 2, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, Jackass Volume 2, Dogma, Mallrats, Minority Report, Collertal, Sin City, The Godfather 1-2...3 kind of, Goodfellas, Brokeback Mountian, Crash, Seven, Heat, Sideways, Taxi Driver

TV Shows: 24, South Park, The L Word, The Colbert Report, The Daily Show, Aqua Teen Hungerforce, The Sopranos

Favorite Actors: Tom Cruise, Jammie Foxx, Leonardo Dicaprio, Matt Damon, Jack Nichlson, DeNiro (old one), Pacino (old one), Luke Wilson

Favorite bands: Sex Pistols, Muse, Dead Kennedys, The Ramones, Metallica, AC/DC, Disturbed, Slipknot, Mudvayne, Van Halen, Black Sabbath, Anti Flag, Leftover Crack, Led Zeppelin, AFI, Hawthorne Heights, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, Goldfinger, Oasis, Bloc Party, Caroline's Spine, Mike Jones, Who? MIKE JONES, Broken Social Scene, Fity, Decemberists, The Clash, Tegan and Sarah, HIM, Tool, Death Cab For Cutie, NOFX, Pink Floyd, 10 Years, Children of Bodom, A Perfect Circle, Nonpoint, In Flames, Black Eyed Peas, Angels and Airwaves, Taking Back Sunday, Depeche Mode, Interpol, Belle and Sebastian, The Fall of Troy, Kayne West, The Who, The New Pornographers

Authors: Reza Azlan, Bob Woodward, Al Franken

candy curveball cummings
10-19-2006, 02:27 PM
Okay, here we go. I procrastinated this enough.

Name: Richard C. Castle
Age: 21
Born: May 30th, 1985
Lived in Tacoma my entire life, save for 6 months in Seattle.

Hunt Middle School
Franklin Pierce High School
University of Washington (Both Seattle and Tacoma Campuses) This is where I am studying now. I'm a junior, majoring in Political Science/Urban Studies.

Family: Two Brothers, one was good at baseball but had no interest in it, the other had no interest in it, and that's a good thing :D. My Mom hates baseball, or at least she claims she does (I think secretly she enjoys the game). My Dad, well he's the reason I love baseball. The first time my Dad went to a Major League game was in 1969. The Seattle Pilots. Fell in love with the team, locked himself in his room when they went to Milwaukee. In 1977, Major League Baseball redeemed themselves by giving him the Seattle Mariners, and he's been a big fan ever since.

Baseball: I played little league, but couldn't hit a lick. I was a pitcher and did okay, but I decided to focus on football.

Favorite Baseball Players: All-Time: Edgar Martinez, Dan Wilson, Candy Cummings, Honus Wagner, Ross Barnes, Mordecai Brown, and Christy Mathewson to name a few.
Current: David Eckstein, Ichiro Suzuki, Raul Ibanez, Albert Pujols, Roy Oswalt, an Eric Byrnes.

Favorite Artists: The Clash, The Sex Pistols, Queen, David Bowie, Jimi Hendrix, The Who, The Beattles.

Favorite Movies: Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, The Shawshank Redemption, The Full Monty, Field of Dreams.

Favorite Teams:
Baseball-Seattle Mariners
Football-Seattle Seahawks
Basketball-Seattle SuperSonics
Ultimate Frisbee-Seattle Riot
(Sensing a trend?)

If you are noticing that tearforamariner and I live remarkably close to eachother, it's because we are roommates. About a month ago, I asked him what the best sites were on the internet for baseball. He told me about Fever. He hadn't been here for a while because he'd been busy, but when he saw all of the great conversations and discussions I was having, it brought back memories or something, and he came back. Interesting how life works.

10-22-2006, 08:56 PM
Name: Daniel Betts; 6-2; 175 lbs.
Born: 7/14/89 (Miami Valley Hospital)
Lived in: Union, OH (1989)
Vandalia, OH (1990-Pres)

Education: Butler High School
University of Cincinnati (Freshman)
Nationality: American
Gained BB Passion: The sport just kinda found me.
Work: Baseball Umpire (2005)
Newspaper Devilery (2006)
Janitor (2007)
Customer Service Agent (2008-Present)
Favorite Players: Sean Casey, Ryan Freel
Favorite Movies; Blues Brothers, Star Wars Trilogy, Field of Dreams, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Gran Torino, James Bond.
Greatest Athletes of the 20th Century: #1 Wayne Gretsky, #2 Mohammad Ali, #3 Michael Jordon
Favorite Books: The Complete Sherlock Holmes, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (series), The Chronicles of Narnia (series), Shoeless Joe
My Hero: My father
Americans that I admire: George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, James Madison
Least favorite people: Modern politicians, people who complain too much
Hobbies: Flight Simulation
Favorite Food: Quick and easy foods to make
Favorite TV Shows: 24, Colbert Report, Futurama, Simpsons
Favorite Baseball Moment: Adam Dunn's Walk-Off Grand Slam (6/30/06 vs. CLE)
Favorite Sport Teams: Cincinnati Reds (MLB), Cincinnati Bearcats (NCAA), Cincinnati Bengals (NFL), Columbus Blue Jackets (NHL)
Music I Don't Care For: Rap, Slow Music.
Music I Like: Anything with a good tempo.
Favorite Composer: John Williams, Danny Elfman
Favorite Actors/Actresses: None
Quote: "Never Give Up, Never Surrender" From Galaxy Quest
I hope BBF members see me as someone with a love for the game like no other and someone who they respect and sometimes are willing to settle with agreeing to disagree with (though my opinion is always right :D).
Pet Peeves: blaming own problems on others, not respecting history/tradition, people getting into other's business
My dad: teacher and adventurer, taught me the right way to act and be a respectable man
My mom: not a saint but awfully darn close

My Facebook account: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1133435897(feel free to add me, just tell me your BBF username)

11-07-2006, 10:17 AM
name - Bill

home - Tuscon AZ

age - 44

baseball life - Playing since age 8. All-Stars from age 13-15. HS 4 years, college 3 years, ammy 2 years

12-09-2006, 10:23 PM
Name: Garry T Wright
DOB: 7/5/75
Location: Lima, Ohio
Married, 2 children
Profession: Baseball cards, collectables, & memorabilia

Favorite teams
Baseball: Anaheim Angels
Football: Chicago Bears
Basketball: Milwaukee Bucks
College: Alabama Crimson Tide

Favorite baseball players: Dave Kingman, Adam Dunn, Cap Anson, Mickey Welch, Early Wynn

Computer games, chess, wargaming (Squad Leaders, Napoleon in Europe)

Favorite chess players: Michael Adams, Andras Adorjan
Authors: Louisa May Alcott, James Fenimore Cooper, Mark Twain, Stephen King
Movies: Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid, The Stand, Field of Dreams, Roadhouse, Smokey & the Bandit, God's not Dead
Music: Bob Seger, Don Henley/The Eagles, John Fogerty/CCR, Elton John, Jim Croce, John Cougar Mellencamp, Dr Hook, Waylon Jennings, Oak Ridge Boys, Peter, Paul, & Mary, Tom Petty, John Denver, the Band, the Kinks, the Beach Boys, the Monkees
Songs: Centerfield, Crocodile Rock, Candle in the Wind, American Pie, Summer of 69, All Summer Long, Anything But Mine, Mandolin Rain, Me and Bobbi McGee, Seasons in the Sun
T.V shows: Dukes of Hazzard, A-Team, Remington Steele, MacGyver, Simon & Simon, Magnum PI, Scarecrow & Mrs King, The Fall Guy, Knightrider, Renegade, Burn otice, the Walking dead
Dream Car: 1953 Corvette
Philosophy: Aristotle
Best current supreme court judges: (good) 1. Scalia, 2. Roberts. 3 Thomas, 4 Alito, (fair) 5 Kennedy, (poor) 6, Kagan, 7, Breyer, 8 Sotomayor, 9 Ginsburg

12-09-2006, 10:41 PM
Name: Ken Marone (The Italian Stallion hahaha :laugh )
DOB: November 18, 1987
Birthplace: Coatesville, PA (Only City in Chester County)
Favorite Teams: Philadelphia Phillies, Seattle Seahawks
Favorite Athletes: Jonny Gomes, Stan Musial, Roberto Clemente, Shane Victorino, Jameer Nelson, Delonte West, Ricky Watters, Matt Hasselbeck.
Favorite Movies: Back to the Future, Rain Man, At the Earth's Core, 61*, Major League, Blazing Saddles, History of the World: Part 1, Planet of the Apes, and the list goes on and on.
Music: Pretty much anything except for classical, or classic rock, or that screaming "garbage".

Why I like baseball: It's so full of history, it's ridiculous, Cooperstown is probably the closet you'll get to heaven on earth. Whether it's a homerun or a strikeout there's nothing about baseball I dont like, aside from the Yankees and steroids. I guess you could say my family's always dug baseball....my grandfather played for the Semi-Pro Philadelphia Blue Jays, and my father was a catcher/pitcher in baseball, and as he got older also caught and pitched in softball leagues. I'm always up for a game of baseball myself, and for a while, barring all of us not working, we'd get together over the past three summers and play a game of baseball every wed. night.

General: I got to Penn State Deleware County, a satallite school of Penn State. I like to laugh and have a good time, I'm up for a good joke/laugh/prank any day. I can always laugh at myself, and I think that everyone should be able to do so, I'm not much for overly dramatic garbage aswell, although get me fired up and I'll get into it with ya.;) Overall I just like to have fun and joke around. (Plus I'm a complete Knockout;) )



12-10-2006, 07:41 PM
Born:October 22, 1980 in Carbondale, IL
Work:car parts factory
Hobbies:Baseball card collecting, slowpitch softball, and lifting weights
Favorite Books:LOTR trilogy, The Vampire Chronicles, and the Bible
Favorite TV Show:The Simpsons,That 70's Show,Newsradio,Chappelle's Show,Reno 911,Family Guy,Buffy the Vampire Slayer,Friends,Heroes, and Baseball Tonight
Favorite Movie:Star Wars trilogies,LOTR trilogy,The Matrix trilogy,King Kong(original and Peter Jackson remake),Jurassic Park,Hulk,X-men 2,v for Vendetta,Troy,Gladiator,Braveheart,The Passion of the Christ,Anchorman,Wedding Crashers,40 Year Old Virgin,Austin Powers trilogy, and The Exorcist
Favorite Actor:Mel Gibson,Harrison Ford,Hugo Weaving,James Marsters,Christopher Reeve,topher Grace,Jack Black,Will Ferrell,Jimmy Fallon,Adam Sandler,owen Wilson,Vince Vaughn,Jon Heder,Viggo Mortensen, and Christopher Walken
Favorite Actress:Natalie Portman,Sarah Michelle Gellar,Laura Prepon,Courtney Cox,Naomi Watts,Connie Neilsen,Monica Belluci, and Kate Hudson
Favorite Band:Led Zeppelin,Nickelback,Metallica,Soundgarden,Audiosla ve,Jimi Hendrix,Eric Clapton,Evanescence,John Mayer, and Silverchair
Favorite Song:Stairway to Heaven,When the Levee Breaks,Ten Years Gone,That's the Way,Babe I'm Gonna Leave You,Someday,Savin' Me,Figured You Out,Rockstar,Helena,My Immortal,The Unforgiven, and Harvester of Sorrow
Favorite Team:St.Louis Cardinals
Favorite Players:Ken Griffey Jr. since I was 10 years old. There is just something about the way he plays that makes you want to watch him(injuries suck).Also like Ted Williams,Joe Dimaggio,Stan Musial,Mickey Mantle,Willie Mays,Don Mattingly,Ray Lankford,Frank Thomas,Jeff Bagwell,Mike Piazza,Alex Rodriguez,Albert Pujols, and Ryan Howard
My Baseball History:Played little league and high school(no college). I played on a semi-pro team for 2 years '02 and '03, broke my wrist and have'nt played since.Only slowpitch for me now.

Name: Chris

Birthdate: October 22, 1980

Birthplace: Carbondale, IL

Baseball History: Played Little League and High School. Then, got a chance to play Semi-Pro for 2 years before breaking my wrist. By the time a was healed it was the end of the season. I would have been 24 at the start of the next season and I had other responsibilities by that time and could not afford to be on the road all summer.

Favorite N.L. Team: St. Louis Cardinals

Favorite A.L. Team: Seattle Mariners

Favorite Baseball Players: Ken Griffey Jr., Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle, Don Mattingly, and Ozzie Smith

Favorite Music Artists: Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Silverchair, Nickelback, Theory of a Deadman, Shinedown, Evanescence, Bush, Guns 'N' Roses, Third Day, Jeremy Camp, and Johnny Cash

Favorite Albums: Led Zeppelin II, Led Zeppelin III, Led Zeppelin IV, Physical Graffitti, Presence, BBC Sessions, Master of Puppets, Metallica, Load, Garage Inc., Frogstomp, Neon Ballroom, Diorama, Young Modern, Silver Side Up, The Long Road, All the Right Reasons, Gasoline, Scars and Souvenirs, Fallen, Leave a Whisper, Sixteen Stone, Appetite for Destruction, Rubberneck, Californication, My Own Prison, and Raising Sand

Favorite Singers: Jackie Wilson, Otis Redding, Patsy Cline, Robert Plant, Axl Rose, Chris Cornell, Brent Smith, and Amy Lee

Greatest Guitarists: Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Eddie Van Halen, and Kirk Hammett

Favorite Baseball Movies: Major League, Field of Dreams, Little Big League, Eight Men Out, and 61*

Favorite Movies: The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (The Two Towers), The Matrix Trilogy (Reloaded), Original Star Wars Trilogy (The Empire Strikes Back), Indiana Jones Series (The Raiders of the Lost Ark), Spiderman Trilogy (Spiderman 2), The Incredible Hulk, Ironman, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Transformers, Jurassic Park, King Kong, Tombstone, 300, Troy, Braveheart, Gladiator, The Passion of the Christ, Anchorman:Ron Burgundy, Talladega Nights:Ricky Bobby, and Step Brothers

Favorite Movie Characters: Gollum (The Lord of the Rings), Neo (The Matrix Trilogy), Smith (The Matrix), Darth Vader (Star Wars), Han Solo (Star Wars), Yoda (Star Wars), The Joker (The Dark Knight), Megatron (Transformers), Gabriel (The Prophecy), Ron Burgundy (Anchorman), Aslan (The Chronicles of Narnia), John Rambo (Rambo), Jason Bourne (The Bourne Trilogy), Doc Holiday (Tombstone), and Dr. Evil (Austin Powers Trilogy)

Favorite TV Shows: Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Heroes, The X-Files, House, Bones, The Simpsons, The Office, Newsradio, How I Met Your Mother, Friends, That 70's Show, The Cosby Show, and MST3K

Favorite TV Characters: Spike (Buffy), Xander (Buffy), Anya (Buffy), Andrew (Buffy), Buffy (Buffy), Angel (Angel), Wesley (Angel), Peter Petrelli (Heroes), Hiro Nakumuru (Heroes), Sylar (Heroes), Dr. Gregory House (House M.D.), Dr. Lisa Cuddy (House M.D.), Homer Simpson (The Simpsons), Mr. Burns (The Simpsons), Chief Wiggum (The Simpsons), Michael Scott (The Office), Dwight Schrute (The Office), Jim Halpert (The Office), Pam Beasley (The Office), Bill McNeal (Newsradio), Matthew Brock (Newsradio), Jimmy James (Newsradio), Barney Stinson (How I Met Your Mother), Robin Scherbatsky (How I Met Your Mother), Joey Tribbiani (Friends), Ross Gellar (Friends), Monica Gellar (Friends), Eric Foreman (That 70's Show), Red Foreman (That 70's Show), Cliff Huxtable (The Cosby Show), Peter Griffin (Family Guy), Jackie Harris (Roseanne), and Seth Cohen (The O.C.)

Cards fan & huge Stevie Ray fan here to welcome you, swingman24! :waving

I was surprised that Stan the Man didn't make your favorites list. I also include Schoendienst in my personal faves list because the guy is an institution!

12-11-2006, 06:27 PM
Name: Bill Irvin
Born: Aug 4, 1958 - Riverside, CA
Occupation: Implementation project manager for Sprint Corp
Hobbies: History (including baseball, of course), cooking, full-time single father
Favorite Books: Bible, any intermediate-difficult baseball trivia, murder mysteries
Favorite TV Show: Mostly older shows from the late '50s-early '80s. Twilight Zone, Columbo, older SNL stuff. I find modern television pretty lame. I do love Monk, however.
Favorite Movie: Again, mostly older movies. Modern movies are just a tad too graphic in nature for my sensibilities (it's the single father in me!). I love the Godfather trilogy, the LOTR trilogy, most Mel Brooks movies, Alfred Hitchcock flicks, the James Bond series and some older westerns. Favorite older movie is The Maltese Falcon.
Favorite Actors: Harrison Ford, Humphrey Bogart, James Stewart, Peter Falk, Morgan Freeman, several others, but I won't bore you with a longer list.
Favorite Actresses: Ingrid Bergman, Katherine Hepburn, Sandra Bullock
Favorite comedy: Monty Python, George Carlin, Bill Cosby
Favorite music: Classic rock (KISS, Def Leppard, Billy Joel, Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Elvis, et al), love classical and some easy listening when I’m in that mood. Also old blues (Robert Johnson, etc)
Favorite Song: Free Bird, most all Strauss waltzes
Favorite food: Lasagna (by far)
Favorite Team: Dodgers (Oakland A’s a close second)
Favorite all-time teams: 1988 Dodgers, 1944 Browns, 1899 Spiders (I love an underdog. Even one that sucks on ice)
Favorite Players: Ted Williams, Dale Murphy, Maury Wills, Roy Campanella
I love Sockeye's taste in Supreme Court judges!

The Kid
12-23-2006, 09:53 AM
Chris McCartney; 5'10; 185 Lbs.
Born: March 3 1990, New York, New York
Raised: LI, New York (But the hell, you could say Boston)

Nationality: Mom's Side: 30% Greek, 10% Roman, 5% Polish, 5% Mowhawk IndianDad's Side 35% Irish, 15% German

Education: Catholic grade school and high school, college probably Boston College

I came by my BB passion from Dad. He was, and still is, a lifelong Red Sox fan. Passionate Red Sox fan. Sure, now he's in his 40's and not exactly slim, but back in the day he was quite the quick and nimble right fielder with a cannon for an arm. And boy, could he hit. He could place the ball anywhere in the field, and even had some power. But growing up, perhaps the thing he taught me the best was to never be afraid of the ball at the plate. 75 MPH and inside as a 10 year old sure puts fear out of the equation. But Dad did make me a great ballplayer, taken me to countless Red sox games, and has really been the man I look up to in life.

Favorite Ball Players: Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Joe Jackson, Rickey Henderson, Jimmie Foxx, Oscar Charleston, Walter Johnson, Cy Young, Pete Browning

Favorite Movies: Field of Dreams, Major League I, Indiana Jones series, The Natural, For The Love of The Game, Bad News Bears, Superbad, The Longest Yard, SpiderMan 3, The Departed, 300, Fever Pitch, Terminator series, Bourne series

Favorite Bands/Artists: Kayne West, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Aero Smith, John Fogharty, The Disturbed, Dropkick Murphys, 'Lil Wayne, Bruce Springsteen

Favorite Football Players: Marcus Allen, Fred Biletnikoff, Cliff Branch, Tim Brown, Jerry Rice, Bo Jackson, Rich Gannon, Jim Plunkett, Kenny Stabler, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Joe Montana, Earl Campbell, Roger Staubach, Dave Casper

Favorite Basketball Players: Wilt Chamberlin, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Bill Russell, Larry Bird, Dr. J, Shaq

My Religion: Strong believing Catholic. Spirit in The Sky sums it up perfectly: "You gotta have a friend in Jesus".

Christian James McCartney

01-03-2007, 12:13 PM
Name: Tiffany Amber(No not that one)

Born: Fairbanks, Alaska-Lived there until November 2006

Live: Bel Air, Maryland

Year Of Birth: 1984

Occupation: Designing Engineer( I design clothing)

Sports that I have played:Bobsled, Curling, Skiing, Luge

(Have never played baseball or even followed baseball up to coming to the States and meeting a few friends who love the Orioles)

People that have influenced me:

My Mom & Dad-They always said never give up and reach for your dreams
My Design Teachers-Who always made me work my a** off for perfection

Favorite Music: Gwen Stefani, No Doubt, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Green Day, The Donnas

Favorite Movie: The Notebook

Favorite Food: Fondue

Favorite Place: New Zealand

01-31-2007, 01:48 PM
Name: Matt
Born: February 17, 1988 @ Hamilton, Ontario
Work: Grocery store clerk
Hobbies: Playing guitar, street hockey, video gaming, baseball
Favorite Books: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
Favorite TV Show: LOST, This Hour Has 22 Minutes, Corner Gas, The Office
Favorite Movie: Clerks, The Evil Dead, Die Hard, Sin City
Favorite Actor: Bruce Campbell, Bruce Willis
Favorite Actress: Rosario Dawson
Favorite Band: The Offspring, Less Than Jake, Dropkick Murphys, NOFX, The Tragically Hip, Finger Eleven
Favorite Song: The Offspring - The Kids Aren't Alright, The Tragically Hip - Fireworks, Dropkick Murphys - ******** On Parade
Favorite Team: Toronto Blue Jays
Favorite Players: Gregg Zaun, Reed Johnson, Joe Carter, Juan Guzman
My Baseball History: I got 2 concussions from baseball bats before age 3 from walking aimlessly in my backyard while my brother and dad were playing. I started playing in the yard as soon as I was able to. Played t-ball from age 5-8, usually playing middle infield or first base. Rookie ball age 9, catcher, first baseman, pitcher; I broke my ankle during all-star tournament and missed half the season, only played house the next year. Age 11 I played all-star again and we won our district and went to nationals but didn't even make the semis. I played just house in 2000 and finally managed to win a house league championship that had been eluding me since my first year of T-ball, winning run scored off of me getting HBP. I didn't play the next year due to a school program that would've had me missing all of May/June, and I just didn't wanna play after missing a year in 2002. I made a comeback in 2006 because a house league around here was short players and my friend asked me to sign up. It was an alright year, my defense was nowhere near as good as it was when I was younger but I could still hit half decently, we went 15-3 in the regular season before dropping 3 straight in the playoffs to not even qualify for the semis. I might try to find a slo-pitch league or something for the sake of getting some rec, but we shall have to see how finding a summer student job this year goes.
Schooling: Catholic Elementary and High School from 1992 - 2006. Currently in first year at McMaster University in social sciences with Political Science most likely being my major.

Johnny Seven
02-01-2007, 04:07 PM
name: mark
born: may 15th 1989
birthplace: east york, ontario (it's part of toronto, kinda)
live: baltimore
will live next year: milwaukee, marquette university
have lived previously: toronto, boston
other sports that i play: hockey (right wing)
music: punk rock, grunge, classic rock with a lot of guitar, a little rap. and ill listen to anything by a canadian singer/songwriter.

now the serious part, with good grammar and spelling and capitalization:

My name is Mark. I have two brothers, both younger. As I said above, I was born in Toronto, moved to Boston, and now live in Baltimore. My major influence in baseball was probably my younger brother. When I was growing up, I immediately became a hockey fan, and still am a fan. (Go Habs Go!) My brother gravitated towards baseball, and he kept wanting me to play with him. My brother kept wanting to go to games, and finally he got my dad to take us. I went to Fenway once, and I was hooked for life. The atmosphere there is simply unmatchable by anything anywhere. Unfortunately, one month later, we moved to Baltimore, and I haven't seen a Red Sox game since, except on TV and the radio.

I'm very proud of being Canadian. My favorite player is Erik Bedard (though I'm not fanatical about him like my brother). Some other favorite players that are not Canadian include Mike Stanley (wherever he went), Trot Nixon, and Roy Halladay.

thanks for the chart, bill. i'm going to use it now.

I Presently reside: baltimore, md (born: toronto, on. also lived: hyannis, ma, boston, ma)
Education: senior in hs, going to marquette next year
Nationality: canadian-american
Work History: umpired in my brothers' rec league a couple years
Favorite ballplayers: see above
Favorite movies: field of dreams, rudy... cant think of any others right now
Favorite Rock Acts: billy talent, sum 41, bad religion, pennywise, etc.
Favorite Rock CD's: bad religion is best listened to in cd form. can't pick one of them, though with a gun to my head i'd say generator
Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: the offspring, nirvana, whenever bad religion comes out with one, that'll do it.
Music I Don't Care For: classical, jazz, anything with no words or no beat, pop, some rap
Music I'm predisposed to Like: punk, grunge, basically any kind of rock
Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: wayne gretzky, michael jordan, babe ruth, joe montana
Favorite Basketball Players: steve nash
Favorite Football players: current: tom brady all time: joe montana, brett favre
Favorite Movie Directors: don't have one
Favorite Actors: don't have any
Favorite Actresses: don't have any
Favorite Books: lord of the flies
Favorite Sports Books: baseball: a celebration
Favorite Rock Geniuses: kurt cobain
Favorite Ice Skaters: chazz michael michaels
Favorite Rock Voices: greg graffin, deryck whibley
Hobbies: baseball, hockey
Favorite Foods: pizza
Favorite Rock Tunes: way too many. here's a sampling:

the hell song - sum 41
motivation - sum 41
the impression that i get - the mighty mighty bosstones (imo, if you don't appreciate this song, you don't appreciate music)
ruby soho - rancid
anarchy in the uk - sex pistols
smells like teen spirit - nirvana
dammit - blink 182
no sugar tonight/new mother nature - the guess who (first great band)
california uber alles - dead kennedys
american jesus - bad religion
and other stuff along those lines

Favorite TV Shows: don't watch much tv, but if i see any crime drama on, i'll watch it
Least Favorite People: politicians in general
My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: field of dreams
Photos of me. don't have any on my computer. i look a lot like deryck whibley (lead singer of sum 41), though.

02-12-2007, 02:59 PM
Hunter Guthrie 5'8; 115 lbs.
Born: January 18, 1993
Hudson, IL from 93-03, Bloomington, IL from 93-present

Education: Junior High

Favorite ballplayers: Current: Chris Carpenter and Jim Edmonds Past: Steve "Lefty" Carlton and Nolan "Ryan Express" Ryan
Favorite movies: Billy Madison, Major League, Sandlot
Favorite Rock Acts: ---
Favorite Rock CD's: Led Zeppelin IV and Anema-Tool
Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: Red Hot Chili Peppers Greatest Hits
Music I Don't Care For: Country
Music I'm predisposed to Like: Classic Rock
Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Wayne Gretsky, Micky Mantle, Ty Cobb, Tiger Woods, Micheal Jordon, Walter Payton, Payton Manning
Favorite Basketball Players: Dwayne Wade
Favorite Football Runners: Cedric Benson *Figuring you mean Running backs*
Favorite Movie Directors: Steven Spielberg
Favorite Actors: Vince Vaughn, Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman, Adam Sandler
Favorite Actresses: Jennifer Anniston
Favorite Books: Fight Club
Favorite Rock Voices: ---
Those I Admire Most: Anyone who stands up for what they believe is right regardless of the consequences or what other people think/
Favorite Foods: Mexican
My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: Sandlot
Pet Peeves: Idiots, Jerks, Morons
Addendum on my Dad: Mistubishi worker, Role-Model, Good baseball player
Addendum on Mom: State Farm worker

Photos of me: Don't have any good ones.[/QUOTE]

02-12-2007, 05:25 PM
Name: Joel
5'9; 170 lbs.
Born: January 12, 1985
I live in the Seattle area, and have all of my life.

Education: I have a two year degree.
My baseball passion came from my dad and my uncles.
Favorite ballplayers: I've had various favorites through time. All of the best Mariners have been my favorites (starting around 1995) - Griffey, Randy, A-Rod, Edgar, Buhner, Ichiro, Boone... I also like Smoltz and Maddux. Nolan Ryan used to be my favorite pitcher (from when I didn't know any better ;) ). I like Koufax, Walter Johnson, Ted Williams, Babe Ruth, Rogers Hornsby, and Gehrig.

Favorite movies: The One, LotR trilogy, X-Men trilogy
Favorite Bands: dcTalk, Newsboys, RelientK, Switchfoot, Kutless, Pillar
Music I Don't Care For: anything with screaming
Favorite Basketball Players: I dislike basketball (bad childhood experience), but I'll say David Robinson.
Favorite Football players: Shaun Alexander, Matt Hasselback, Jerry Rice, Steve Young, Joe Montana.
Favorite Actors: Robin Williams, Jet Li, Jackie Chan, Chow Yun Fat
Favorite Books: I read just about anything.
Favorite Cool Stuff: video games (Super Smash Bros > All), card games (Magic, VS, YGO)
Favorite Foods: Pizza, nachos, BBQ ribs, roast duck, (all sorts of desserts)
Pet Peeves: Refrigerated ketchup, people that go to the bathroom and never flush, really big hypocrites, obnoxious people, jerks. Bumper stickers that say War IS Terrorism.

02-13-2007, 11:49 AM
Hi, nice to meet you all. I'm Bree. Just Bree. Not to be confused with the French cheese or anything classy like that. (I was named after a chintzy hooker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klute), thank you.)

I am one of those people who do things "my way." I march to the beat of a different drummer... and he's usually three steps behind and missing a shoe. I don't do it on purpose; I've just always been this way. (I'm not filling out the survey because I don't have many "favorites" of anything--I love to try new things!)

Here is the gist:
I grew up in Upstate, NY, near Albany. Sports were rejected in my household, despite the fact that I've always been very active. My maternal grandparents (who lived with us for a number of years) introduced me to the Yankees.

When I was a teenager, my dad killed himself. Less than a year later, my mom uprooted our little family out of NY and we landed in Central Kentucky. There was what you would call a “rough adjustment period.” Somehow I graduated from high school and vowed to discover who I was in college. I went back and forth between two collegiate institutions for a while and finally settled on Northern Kentucky University just across the Ohio River from Cincinnati.

The Baseball “Thing.”
Some point during college, I met my future husband Kevin at a local rock show. He made the “mistake” of taking me to my first professional baseball game at old Cinergy Field on May 12, 2002 (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=200205120CN5). The Cardinals were in town and like a proper NL-Central team that season, they slaughtered the Reds quickly and painfully. Instead of being put-off by the fact that the Reds scored all of their runs before the 3rd inning, I asked "When are we coming back?!" during 7th Inning Stretch.

Kevin asked me to marry him on Opening Day 2005 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stateofmain/384360490/) (Reds/Mets) in front of the Joe Nuxhall statue at Great American Ballpark. Under blue skies and gorgeous weather, I said “yes” and the Reds pulled off an amazing win in the bottom of the 9th Inning with a walk-off home run by Adam Dunn. With such an amazing start to the season, it was only fitting that we got married at the end of the 2005 season (October 1st; the anniversary of Roger Maris' 61st HR) in the Gallery of the National Baseball Hall of Fame (Cooperstown, NY). (See the photos here. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37968458@N00/sets/1319042/?batch_done=1)) And before you ask, no, our priest was not dressed up like an umpire and I was not wearing a Rockford Peach uniform, although, that would have been cute.

Obviously, I’m a late bloomer to the church of baseball, but my immediate conversion and absorption for details stems from the fact that baseball is everything I love about life. It is filled with a plush, colorful history that is interwoven into our culture. People who don’t even know the sport use its references and terms. Baseball personalities have always been larger than life and the ballparks are majestically esteemed. There was a Negro League and an All-American Girls Professional Baseball League during times of great racial and gender bias. The sport was once so important that it was mandated by the government to stay in business as a diversion from both World Wars and the Great Depression. The best part is, there are so many stories to read, and yet, so many stories to be written. I hope to read as many as possible and my library at home just continues to grow and grow!

Kevin and I intent to collect baseball stadiums like Pokemon cards (we're up to 23 so far). We rate nachos, collect programs, inspect facilities and photographically document each new stadium with a self-portrait. We’ve sat through rain delays, blistering heat and unseasonable frigid conditions—nothing says “love” like sitting under umbrellas in 40° weather during a rain delay in a city you don’t expect to ever visit again if the game ever continues (here’s looking at you, Syracuse!) Despite all of the road tripping we still have time for our 17-game season ticket package with the Reds A-level affiliate, the Dayton Dragons (http://www.daytondragons.com/).

In 2004, I took the leap and moved to Indianapolis to intern as a graphic designer for the Indianapolis Indians (http://www.indyindians.com/) (Triple-A, then affiliated with the Brewers). It was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. I’ve pulled tarp in ice-cold rain, dressed as a mascot in a baking 90° heat, operated a video board, watched games from the press box, designed a Pepsi can and my proudest moment: I was Ball Girl on Opening Day 2004.

Aside from all of the baseball silliness, I thrive on sunny days and driving with the windows down and music blaring. I love grilling, drinking fresh, homemade lemonade and eating veggies freshly picked from a garden. In fact, I love to eat just about anything, despite my apparent diminutive size.

02-16-2007, 04:57 PM
Sung-Min 'Slim' Kim; 5'9; 219 lbs.
Born: January, 1991, Seoul, South Korea.
1991~1995 Lived in Kyoung-Ki Province Surburban.
1996 Lived in Seoul, spent my days there in kindergarten
1997~1998 Lived in Jeju Island, went into the elementary school
1999~2002 Lived in Seoul
2002~2004 Moved to US, lived in New Haven region of Connecticut
2004~2005 Lived in Seoul
2005~2006 Lived in Buffalo
2006 Lived in Pohang, South Korea for 6 months
2006~Now: Living in Timonium, Maryland. Planning to stay here until I graduate high school

Education: I'm a freshman in a high school
Nationality: Korean
Favorite ballplayers: Alex Rodriguez, Manny Ramirez (surprise, surprise!), Kyle Farnsworth, Johnny Damon, David Wells, Mike Mussina, Miguel Cabrera, Mark Texeira (he lived in the close region as I do right now), Chan Ho Park, and several other Yankee prospects
Favorite movies: Anchorman, School Of Rock, Monster Inc.
Favorite Rock Acts: Playing air-guitar along 'All Along The Watchtower'.
Music I Don't Care For: Classic, Country
Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jim Thorpe?
Favorite Books: Of Mice and Men, Simpsons Comics, Someday Angeline, Harry Potter Series
Favorite Sports Books: Moneyball, Perfect I'm Not, Idiot, Juiced
Favorite Cool Stuff: UHHHH... Internet
Hobbies: Internet, reading, baseball nothing else much
Favorite Foods: Italian, Mexican, Burger King, some Korean
Favorite Rock Tunes: Welcome To The Jungle, St. Anger, Enter Sandman, The rock intro of MLB 2K5 videogame, Do the Bartman
Favorite TV Shows: THE SIMPSONS
Favorite Comedy Stuff: THE SIMPSONS
Addendum on my Dad: Doctor
Addendum on Dad/Mom: Artist
My picture:

02-16-2007, 09:53 PM
Name: Danny
Born: 2/5/92
Favorite Movie:Major League, Junction Boys,40-Year old Virgin,Wedding Crashers,Goodfellas,Scarface,The Big Lebowski,Pulp Fiction,Raging Bull,The Dirty Harry Movies,and a lot more.
Favorite Actor:Robert De Niro,Clint Eastwood are my top 2.
Favorite Bands:System of a Down,Bruce Springsteen,Aerosmith,Cream,Led Zeppelin,Metallica,Soundgarden,Audioslave,Jimi Hendrix,and everything on Guitar Hero 1 & 2 like Wolfmother,Queen,Red Hot Chili Peppers,etc.
Favorite Team: Los Angeles Dodgers
Favorite Players: Rafael Furcal is my homeboy! I play the game the way he does. Raffy for MVP!
[B]Member added:

If you like the Chilli Peppers, you have to watch their DVD, Live From Slane Castle. You can find it on YouTube as well. Just search "Slane Castle Red Hot Chilli Peppers" and you'll find most of the songs from the concert. It's mindblowing.

02-23-2007, 09:03 AM
Bill (6'2", 220lbs)
Born: Nov. '66, Evanston, IL
Grew up in Skokie, IL, and have also lived in StL, Dallas, Detroit, Elgin, IL, and near Manchester, NH.
Education: BSEE from Washington U in StL
Nobody in my family liked baseball and I didn't have any close friends who were fans, I just came to it on my own.
Work History: IC Designer (Electronics) for about 20 years
Favorite ballplayers: Eric Davis, Ripken, Dale Murphy, Ryne Sandberg, Mark Bellhorn, Rogers Hornsby, Jimmie Foxx, Jack Clark, Honus Wagner
Favorite Team: Bosox, baby!!!! Cubbies for the NL, have also followed the Reds and Orioles in the past
Favorite movies: The Pawnbroker, Jacob's Ladder, Napoleon Dynamite
Favorite Rock Acts: The Clash, Hound Dog Taylor, Midnight Oil, BH Surfers
Favorite Rock CD's: London Calling, Electric Larryland
Music I Don't Care For: Big Band
Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Thorpe, Owens, Lewis, Didriksen, Jenner
Favorite Movie Directors: Scorcese
Favorite Actors: DeNiro, Rod Steiger, Steve Buscemi, James Earl Jones
Favorite Actresses: JJ Leigh, Liv Tyler
Favorite Books: Beloved and God, The Roman Empire at Bay, The Origins of the Mithraic Mysteries
Favorite Sports Books: Historical Abstract, Cult Baseball Players, Glory of Their Times, Tao of Baseball
Favorite Ice Skaters: Katarina Witt
My Most Admired Americans: Lincoln, MLK, Eisenhower
Hobbies: History, Racquetball, XC and Downhill Skiing, Running, Lifting, General Reading, SP Softball, Batting Cages
Favorite Foods: Malai Kofta, Shawarma w/ Hummus, Pizza
Favorite TV Shows: My Name is Earl, The Office
Least Favorite People: George Bush, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney
My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: Bang The Drum Slowly, Field of Dreams, The Sandlot
Pet Peeves: Yanks winning the AL East, Bosox tix being so hard to get
Baseball Playing Experience: 1 year LL in Skokie (AS team), NABA 18+ in Schaumburg, IL, Wilmette Guys Sunday AM League, GSBL 30+ in Hudson, NH
VTSoxFan responded to you:

Favorite TV Shows: My Name is Earl
Least Favorite People: George Bush, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney
Pet Peeves: Yanks winning the AL East, Bosox tix being so hard to get

Right on, Hellborn! Two thumbs up! Earl is a Rabelaisian hoot! This Progressive agrees with you politically, and as for the Sox... well, that's a no-brainer. :)
Bill came right back with:

Right on, Hellborn! Two thumbs up! Earl is a Rabelaisian hoot! This Progressive agrees with you politically, and as for the Sox... well, that's a no-brainer. :)
I'm probably a better fit for VT than NH with my political views, although we do have a very popular Dem gov right now. My town was one of the few in the state to stay hard right in the last election, much to my mortification.
Earl would be great no matter what, but my wife and I enjoy it even more because Earl looks a lot like my bro-in-law! They don't have a Randy in the family...I guess I would have to fill that role, I can almost match him in hulkiness and can adopt a good blank stare when needed (I dressed as Napoleon Dynamite last Halloween). I would have mentioned that I love Scrubs when I see it due to its utter randomness, but rarely find myself in front of the TV when it's on. I think that cast could do a good job of adapting "Waiting for Godot" for far more characters.
Your posts are always remarkable for their interesting vocabulary...if somebody would have told me that I would run across the word "Rabelaisian" today, I would have said they were Gargantually mistaken.

03-03-2007, 09:22 AM
Who am I?

Name: Corey
Birth Date- 10/23/91
Favorite Baseball Team: Chicago Cubs
Favorite Cub: Ryne Sandberg
Most hated Baseball Team: Chicago White Sox- I can tolerate the Cardinals. I went to the one Sox/Cards game this year when the Sox won 20-6 :(
Favorite Basketball Team: Chicago Bulls
Favorite College Basketball Team: Duke
Most Hated College Hoops Team: UNC
Favorite Football Team: Chicago Bears. Packers #2.
Most Hated Football Team: The Indianapolis Colts
Favorite Hockey Team: Chicago Blackhawks.
Favorite Band of All Time: Beatles- I like almost every song.
My Favorite Musical Genius- Sir Paul Mccartney
I am a huge fan of playing Goldeneye 007 for the N64. I feel that Goldeneye is not a game, but a way of life. And is easily man's greatest invention. I am currently ranked #54 on the U.S. Ranks.
Beside that- I am a huge gamer in general. I like Sports and Violent games.
Athletes Whom I share birthdays with: Jim Bunning, Doug Flutie, and Al Leiter. I also share a birthday with a non-athlete- the late great Johnny Carson (RIP)
I get upset at a lot of stuff.
Am I a jock, or a nerd? Nerd. I always get teased at school. I don't have alot of friends, and have been socially isolated almost my whole life.
Any Extra Curricular Activities? Yes- First off, I LOVE Drama Club. I played Uncle Henry in the Musical: The Wizard of Oz. We are doing contest season now. I'm in Children's Theatre. The production we are doing is Horton Hears a Who. I will be playing the Mayor of Whoville. My school has its own radio station. I do Sports every Monday. It's a fun job.
I once asked out a girl two years older than me- I got shot down, and wanted to commit suicide.
One of the worst nights of my life: October 26, 2005.
Allergies: Cats and Dogs.
What I look like: Glasses, brown/blonde hair. Peach fuzz, and lots of it. 5'8, 178 lbs.
Do I have a myspace? Yes. My myspace name is Smarty Boy.
My biggest hobby: Autographs. My most valuable are probably: Troy Aikman, Jerry Rice, Bart Starr, Stan Musial, and Steve Young.
Favorite Athletes: Steve Young, Wade Boggs (The man in my icon), Pete Maravich, Wayne Gretzky, Al Kaline, George Kell, Roger Clemens, Paul Molitor, Dick Butkus, Barry Sanders, and Michael Jordan- Go Bulls, but not UNC.
I am a HUGE fan of wrestling. Especially TNA. My favorite wrestlers are: Sting, Abyss, Christian Cage, Samoa Joe, Kurt Angle, Chris Sabin, The Sandman, Sabu, and Mr. Kennedy.
I enjoy a good laugh and I like to tell Dirty Jokes, and I depise President Bush. I'm a huge fan of David Letterman.
I spend alot of time studying sports. I hope to go on Stump The Schwab, and I know alot more about sports on here than people think. Isn't that right, TFAM?
My Favorite Songs are: Survival of the Sickest, Click Click Boom- Saliva. Bodies, Step Up- Drowning Pool. Animal I have Become, Riot- Three Days Grace. I, The Enemy- Godsmack, Before I forget- Slipknot. Holiday- Green Day. Psychobilly Freakout- The Reverend Horton Heat. Almost Every Beatles song. Night Drive- The All American Rejects. Paint it Black, Brown Sugar, Gimme Shelter, Get off of My Cloud, Rough Justice, Jumpin Jack Flash- The Rolling Stones. Bohemian Rhapsody, We Will Rock You/We are the Champions, Killer Queen- Queen. No Particular Place to Go, Roll Over Beethoven, Schooldays- Chuck Berry. Sugar Shack, Bottle of Wine- Jimmy Gilmer and the Fireballs. Lies- The Knickerbockers. She's Not There, Tell her no, Time of the Season- The Zombies. I like it- Gerry And the Pacemakers. Bristol Stomp- The Dovelles. Blue Moon- The Marcels. Green Onions- Booker T & The MG's. Wipeout- The Safari's, and I think I'll stop there. :)
I am a huge fan of James Bond. I know all the movies like the back of my hand. I got my screen name from Goldeneye's Main Villain- Alec Trevelyan, Agent 006. And because of that, my favorite actor is Sean Bean.
I am in my freshman year of high school.
My mom is 48.
Dad is 42
Parents divorced.
My Dad looks like Stone Cold Steve Austin, only my Dad is much bigger.
And I'll stop there. Thanks for reading :)

03-17-2007, 07:59 PM
Born: 06/01/88, San Diego, CA
Live in Tijuana, Mexico.
Education: SDSU perfect grades :D
I started to play baseball since I was 5 years old, I was pretty good but messed my arm up when I was 15 and I can't pitch since then.
Favorite ballplayers: Ty Cobb, Tony Gwynn, David Wells.
Favorite Team: Padres
Favorite movies: Reservoir Dogs
Favorite music: Trip music, acid house, electronica, psychadelic trance and techno.

Favorite Foods: Carne Asada and seafood

Pete Rose Rounding Third
04-08-2007, 09:50 AM
January 20, 1975 - exact same birthday as the considerably overrated David Eckstein. Born, raised, and lifelong Texan.

Favorite ballplayers: Ichiro, Tony Gwynn, Greg Maddux, Lance Berkman, Albert Pujols, Jim Edmonds, Hideki Matsui, Bernie Williams, David Ortiz (I'm sure I've got others, but I need to answer some other questions)

Favorite movies: 1) Star Wars (episode IV for Lucas-ites) 2) Hannah and Her Sisters/Crimes And Misdemeanors (Woody Allen movies could dominate this list - I'll keep him out as much as I can) 3) Reservoir Dogs 4) Office Space 5) Adaptation 6) Fargo 7) Sneakers 8) The Daytrippers 9) Noises Off 10) A Few Good Men

Favorite Rock Acts: I'm past rock now, but was a big fan of Oasis. Also had a Metallica phase. Broadening "Rock" to include "Pop" and "Soul", I enjoyed Sarah McLachlan, George Michael, Lionel Richie, Stevie Wonder, The Beatles, and more. Immense Paul Simon fan - that fandom of mine hasn't gone away.

Favorite Artists: Acoustic Alchemy, Carlos Barbosa-Lima, Charlie Byrd, Flim & The BB's, Leo Kottke, Adrian Legg, older Ottmar Liebert, Keiko Matsui, Chieli Minucci, Joe Pass, Jaco Pastorius, Django Reinhardt, Strunz and Farah, Nobuo Uematsu. And last but not least, the greatest band in the world, Quadro Nuevo.

Music I Don't Care For: Not a fan of Country, most Latin (love flamenco guitar, though), Rap/Hip-Hop, Dance.

Music I'm predisposed to Like: Mostly instrumental, primarily guitar-based, mostly jazz. Certain artists you'll find in New Age but aren't really. Classical.

Favorite Basketball Players: Basketball is actually my favorite sport - I grew up in San Antonio and was cheering on the Iceman not long after I started first grade. As you could guess, I could spend a lot of time on this one, but instead I'll spare everyone. Go to SpursTalk.com and look for the user SRJ; you'll learn more about my basketball jones there. Better yet, go to my blog: spursmetrics.blogspot.com

Favorite Football Runners: Barry Sanders was unreal

Favorite Movie Directors: Woody Allen occupies the top five spots in my list. I'm a huge Woody fan.

Favorite Actors: Kevin Spacey, William H. Macy, Michael Caine, Campbell Scott

Favorite Actresses: Judy Davis, Parker Posey, Dianne Wiest, Claire Forlani

Favorite Books: I don't read enough, and when I do it's not enough fiction! The Hitchhiker's Guide series by Douglas Adams, 1421 by Gavin Menzies, Uninvited by James Gabriel Berman, The Lucifer Principle by Howard Bloom, Rule by Secrecy by Jim Marrs, almost anything by Christopher Hitchens, The End of Racism by Dinesh D'Souza, Conservatize Me by John Moe, Female Chauvinist Pigs by Ariel Levy

Favorite Sports Books: Every Bill James book I own, Moneyball (which got me interested in Bill James, who greatly enhanced my appreciation of baseball), October 1964, Tall Tales (Terry Pluto), every edition of Dave Heeren's Basketball Abstract I own, Ball Four

Favorite Musical Geniuses: Excepting the great classical composers (who were all geniuses, IMO): Carlos Barbosa-Lima, Charlie Byrd, Stanley Jordan, Leo Kottke, Adrian Legg, Joe Pass, Jaco Pastorius, Django Rheinhardt, Paul Simon, Nobuo Uematsu, Nick Webb. I'm probably leaving some important people out, but that's who comes to mind right now.

Favorite Voices: Corrine Drewery and Jane Monheit

Those I Admire Most: Principled people - and by principled, I mean people who aren't bound to the ideology they associate with. I'm a conservative, but I disagree with conservatives on a number of issues. I am not a fan of some conservative politicians. Being conservative, liberal, or whatever, does not mean you are required to go along with everything attached to that label. It's not a religion, people - you can make it your own.

I also admire those who act with conviction. Nothing is more impressive than walking the walk after you've talked the talk. Anybody can pay lip service to anything.

Hobbies: Guitar, Chess, Writing

Favorite Comedy Stuff: Stella, good sketch comedy (like Mr. Show with Bob and David, for example), quality stand-up, The Onion.

Least Favorite People: Rosie O'Donnell, Iran's President Ahmedenijad (spelling?), Hugo Chavez, Vladimir Putin, Michael Moore

Favorite TV Characters: George Costanza (Jason Alexander, Seinfeld); C. Montgomery Burns (Harry Shearer, The Simpsons); Larry Dallas (Richard Kline, Three's Company); JR Ewing (Larry Hagman, Dallas); Frasier Crane (Kelsey Grammer, Cheers, Frasier)

Pet Peeves: People who never leave their ideological hole no matter how wrong their group is on a particular issue.
People who think the other side (Democrats, Republicans, Conservatives, Liberals) is actually evil.
The supposed tolerance of liberals who never hesitate to call those in opposition to them racists, sexists, homophobes.
The movement to suppress the opinions of those who challenge the global warming crowd. The debate is not over, folks.
People who admire themselves excessively and as a result do not recognize when they are wrong.

Huntington Avenue
04-08-2007, 07:36 PM
Nathan John McGovern Leveille
Born: February 15, 1991
1991-92: Lived in East Greenwich, RI.
1992: East Providence, RI.
1993-1996: Scituate, RI.
1996-Present: Glocester, RI.
Education: Sophomore in High School

First began following baseball in earnest in May-June of '04. The school librarian was a Yankees fan and she had introduced me to baseball for the first time during the 2003 ALCS.

Favorite active hitters: David Wright and Jose Reyes in the NL, most starters for the Red Sox, also Ryan Howard, A-Rod.

Favorite Active Pitchers: Tim Wakefield, Mike Mussina, Johan Santana, Dan Haren, John Lackey, Greg Maddux, Bronson Arroyo, Aaron Harang

Favorite Retired Batters: Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, Rogers Hornsby, Ty Cobb, Keith Hernandez, Harmon Killebrew, etc.

Favorite Player of All-Time, hands-down, no-contest: My man, Rube Waddell.

Favorite movies:Not a huge movie fan myself. I really couldn't name any that are my favorites.

Favorite Rock Acts: Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, Beatles, also many hardcore punk bands such as Minor Threat, Dead Kennedys, etc.

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: Garth Brooks, Led Zeppelin

Music I Don't Care For: Most classic rock, such bands as Steely Dan will always be my enemy. Also, most mainstream music of today.

Favorite Genres: Classic country, old-school rap, metal, punk, alternative.

Classical Music: Bach was the greatest, though I also enjoy Beethoven.

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Zaharias, Tiger Woods, Babe Ruth, Jesse Owens

Favorite Basketball Players: Shaq is my favorite in the NBA.

Favorite Football Players: I can hardly stand football, but I do follow the Patriots and generally like them.

Favorite Movie Directors: Stanley Kubrick

Favorite Actresses: Natalie Portman, Scarlett Johansson, Keira Knightley

Favorite Books: massive Harry Potter Fan, and I collect philosophy, especially Ancient Greek.

Favorite Sports Books: I haven't read many, but I liked The Diamond Appraised and Denny McLain's autobiography. I also have the Prospectus and Hardball Times Annuals, as well as Bill James' for '07.

Favorite Ice Skaters: hmmm...I have a thing for Dorothy Hamill and Peggy Fleming, and I was a huge Sarah Hughes fan in '02.

Favorite Rock Voices:Freddie Mercury, Robert Plant

Those I Admire Most: Tough, but Martin Luther King, Jr. stands out. We learned about him in depth from my english teacher last year. My biggest role model is JFK, I have major political aspirations.

Favorite Cool Stuff: My iPod, beat literature, Andy Warhol and Modern Art
Hobbies: Baseball is my life. I enjoy school, but I have a love-hate relationship with most of my class.

Favorite Foods: Pillsbury Quick Breads are an addiction, also cheese, and pizza, various incarnations of sausage (Thank God for unnaturally high metabolism!)

Favorite TV Shows: The Office, SNL, and sadly, American Idol

Favorite Comedy Stuff: I watch SNL, even though it isn't really that funny it still beats most of TV today

Least Favorite People: George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, etc. ad infinitum. And on the other end, Deval Patrick, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara "We're In Control Of Congress Now So We Can Pretend To Ignore You" Boxer.

I hope Fever members see me as . . .: An avid baseball fan who is open to new ideas and experiences and hopefully has something interesting and unique to offer.

Pet Peeves: Republicans, Democrats, Socialists and Communists, Anarchists, Fascists, Abusers of Capitalism, Welfare, lack of Health Care, reliance on flashy yet ineffectual gov't programs, Modern Prohibition (War on Drugs), smoking and drinking of any kind, abortion but not abortion rights, gun ownership but not gun ownership rights.

Brief Notes Dad: 47, lived in Everett and Cambridge after divorce from my mother, now lives in Boston, accountant for downtown law firm

Brief Notes on Mom: 41, member of local school committee and very devoted, also stay-at-home mom. Is a rigid liberal though she hates that label and gets mad whenever I point it out.

Final Info about Myself: I am third in my class of 259 but if I were more conscientious I feel I could be valedictorian easy. I live a double life at school, one of which talks Allen Ginsberg, political science, and social commentary, and the other, who saw every one of our 11 football games and all three of our Hockey state championship games, and who talks in low tones, never changes his facial expression, and is well-liked by most everyone. Given that I entertain very radical, nerdy ideas and don't get out much, it is a total miracle and gift that I have many friends at school and am so highly respected. I'm lucky. I doubt that our sophomore class council would be pleased by a talk on libertarianism, and so I keep that side to myself. Also, my "other" friends constantly make fun of me for wearing nice clothes and gossiping about nothing. I can't wait to go to college, when perhaps finally I will learn to be myself.

Dodger Black and Blue
05-01-2007, 03:27 PM
Seth McRae, 6'2 180 lbs.
Born: August 7, 1984
Favorite team: Los Doyers.

I Presently reside in: Glendale, Ca (though likely moving soon).

Education: A degree in English writing and a degree in Political Science from the University of Pittsburgh

Why I love baseball: Heritage.

Work History: Wrote briefly for LA Daily News about the Dodgers, currently assistant to Michael Levine (business writer).

Favorite ballplayers: Rafi F-urkel, Sandy Koufax, Jackie Robinson, Not Mike Piazza

Favorite Rock Acts: Lightning Bolt, Go! Team, Do Make Say Think, Explosions in the Sky

Favorite Rock CD's: Explosions in the Sky's The Earth is Not a Cold Dead Place and All of a Sudden I Miss Everyone.

Favorite Books: A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius by Dave Eggers

Favorite Sports Books: Fever Pitch by Nick Hornby

Favorite Rock Geniuses: Brian Chippendale

Those I Admire Most: Jackie Robinson

Favorite TV Characters: Charlie from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia

Brief Notes on Dad: Kept the familial line of Dodgers season tickets that my grandfather first purchased in 1957, the day the Dodgers announced the move. We're currently 25th on the season ticket priority list.

Brief Notes on Mom: (Along with my dad) Took me to my first game when I was six days old.

05-18-2007, 12:58 AM
Name: John-William, but I'd prefer if you called me J.W., at least here.

DOB: November 1, 1988.

POB: St Luke's Hospital in Manhattan.

Education: Because I'm afflicted with a severe neurological illness, I had to take a year off before entering college. So, as of now, high school. However, I have been accepted to Indiana University with substantial money saved due to making it in with a big scholarship.

Current Place of Residence: Ossining, NY, though I'm moving to Bloomington, IN some time within the next few months.

Favorite Ballplayers (No order): Steve Dalkowski, Ray Youngdahl, Joe Short, Bob Bubash, Pat Gillick, Vic Baron, Russ Casteen, Danny Casteen, Nolan Campbell, Dick Smith (the former Phillies pitching prospect), Herm Starrette, Joe Pignatano, Chuck Estrada, Joe Ginsberg, Billy DeMars, Al Ferrara, Hank Allen, Bob Carmo, Al Carden, Tommy Klukososki, John Papa, Jim Lehew, Arne Thorsland, Greg Arnold, Chuck Hinton, Jim Duckworth, Bob Beavers, Tom Saffell, John Hogg, Lou Sleater, Pete Ward, Lloyd Fourroux, Nielsen "Nellie" Cochran, Frank Mankovitch, Harry Dunlop, Bob Flynn, Boog Powell, Don Lock, Earl Weaver, Andy Baylock, Gary Kroll, Alex Grammas, Enid Drake, Daryl Patterson, Ron Hansen, Ben Tootle, Zach Outman, Kendal Volz, Jack Hamilton, Dave Nicholson, Dillon Gee, Dirk Hayhurst, Juan Padilla, R.J. Swindle, Andy Etchebarren, Clyde King, Frank Zupo, Barry Shetrone, Andy Seminick, the real Lawrence Columbus "Crash" Davis, Pat Neshek, Willie Mays, Mike Piazza, Joe Pinder, Jack Lummus

Favorite Broadcaster: Ernie Harwell

Favorite Umpire: Doug Harvey

Favorite Front Office Executive: Frank Cashen

Favorite Teams: New York Mets, Detroit Tigers, 1958 Johnson City Phillies, 1960 Stockton Ports, 1958 and 1959 Aberdeen Pheasants, 1960 Bakersfield Bears

Nationality: Mix of the following: German (Alsacian...and they considered themselves German Catholics...on Mom's side and Prussian Jewish on Dad's side), Polish (Catholic on Mom's side, a handful of Jews on Dad's side), Hungarian (Dad's side, Jewish), Irish (Mom's side, Catholic), South African (Afrikanerjoode [literally Afrikaner-Jewish] and English South African-Jewish on Dad's side), English (Mom's side were Catholics, Dad's side were Jews), French (Mom's side, Catholic), Austrian (Mom's side, Catholic), Cree Indian (Mom's side, converted to Roman Catholicism), possibly Russian (would be on Dad's side and Jewish, though we're not totally sure if they're Russians or Poles).

I came by my BB passion from: Dad.

Work History: I'm a writer.

Favorite movies: Zulu, the ORIGINAL Star Wars trilogy, Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers (Miniseries, but I consider it the greatest one ever made so it gets a pass), just about any pre-1960 film noir mystery, Field of Dreams, 61*, Major League, Animal House, the ORIGINAL "The Producers" (the one by Mel Brooks), anything directed by John Ford (ESPECIALLY the Cavalry Trilogy and its prequel, The Horse Soldiers), anything directed by Frank Capra, anything EXCEPT Metropolis directed by Fritz Lang (i.e. the Dr. Mabuse films).

Favorite Rock Acts: Anything pre-1980.

Favorite Rock CD's: I don't own any. That's why I love the oldies channel.

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: Montgomery Gentry, Hank Williams, Jr., Waylon Jennings, various and sundry other country.

Music I Don't Care For: Just about anything current, unless it's marching music or AUTHENTICALLY Celtic (by that I mean sans the new age stuff thrown in).

Favorite Movie Directors: Frank Capra, John Ford, Fritz Lang, George Lucas. Spielberg was just too inconsistent.

Favorite Actors: Jimmy Stewart (who my grandfather actually knew), Dick Powell, Basil Rathbone, Charles Bronson, Humphrey Bogart, Sean Connery in his younger years, David Niven, anyone from the Monty Python comedy trouppe. Also Audie Murphy AS A HUMAN BEING who just happened to be an actor. If you thought I was going to say John Wayne, for some reason, I never cared for him.

Favorite Actresses: Just about any actress of East Asian, Southeast Asian, or South Asian (i.e. Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, or Sri Lankan) descent will catch my eye. I really, really like Anna May Wong.

Favorite Books: Thomas Pakenham's The Boer War, Brian M. Linn's The Philippine War, Jeff and Michael Shaara's books on the Civil War, anything by Bill James, Moneyball by Michael Lewis, Robert W.D. Ball's Mauser Military Rifles of the World series (I have the third edition...need to get the fourth), Jonah Goldberg's Liberal Fascism, anything by Ian Skennerton, and a lot of other things. Oh, and I found The Meinertzhagen Fraud to be truly fascinating. And the book versions of the 1960's James Bond films are really interesting to look at, just to see what was changed and what stayed.

Favorite Sports Books: Just listed 'em, and I'd also throw in The Biographical Encyclopedia of the Negro Leagues, Fantasyland, and Can Anybody Around Here Play This Game? are two I can name right off the bat (no pun intended), though there are really many.

Favorite Ice Skaters: See "Actresses," and it's the only reason I have ever turned on ice skating on TV.

Those I Admire Most: My parents, my grandfathers (Jack Hart, my maternal grandfather, played semi-pro ball and was unsuccessfully wooed by the Cleveland Indians one time and the St. Louis Browns one time. He played shortstop and third base with ease. Not a power hitter, but hit over .400 one year in his semi-pro league. He refused to sign because they wouldn't sign his best friend.).

I'll also throw out First Lieutenant Wilhelm Friedrich Pohlman, Zuid-Africkaansche Rijdende Politie, acting commandant, Johannesburg Section. My cousin. He successfully led about 70 men at the Battle of Bergendal during the Second Anglo-Boer War after his commanding officer, Captain Philip R. Oosthuizen was incapacited by flying debris. He managed to hold 2,000 British soldiers off until he finally ran out of ammunition, and was killed in the battle. He is the only man buried on the battlefield in a marked grave. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle would later acknowledge his courage and selflessness from the opposing side of the war (though he never names the ZARP commandant), an extreme rarity for the Boer War (the British thought very little of the Boers...the ZARPs even being mentioned was an extreme honor).

My Most Admired Americans: My parents, my grandfathers, George Washington, Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, James Madison, Vice Admiral William "Bull" Halsey, General William Tecumseh Sherman, General Ulysses Simpson Grant, General John J. Pershing, Audie Murphy, Chesty Puller, Dick Bong, Lucian Truscott (the world's most underrated Army Engineer).

Technically Best-Made Movies: Does Band of Borthers count? Doesn't matter. But the best SFX goes to the prequel Star Wars trilogy, even if the plotline was horrendous. Best SFX for its time was the Original Trilogy.

Favorite Cool Stuff: Hmm. See "hobbies," though a navigational compass from a B-24D Liberator bomber would have to be the coolest thing I own. Some other stuff would be a prototype Waffenfabrik Simson drilling, a postcard of Sandy Koufax signed long before he was a star (in 1958), stuff that Steve Dalkowski signed for me in person, and a bottle opener invented by former Philadelphia Phillies farmhand Bob Carmo.

Hobbies: Man, too many to list. Baseball and baseball cards, autographs, firearms and competitive shooting, ballcaps made by Cooperstown Ballcap Co., history (particularly military history), writing Star Wars fan fiction, writing just about anything else (fiction AND non-fiction), reading, political debating (competitively only), geneology, aviation, fishing, model airplanes (the non-flying kind), chemistry, the study of foreign languages (especially Centum Indo-European languages).

Favorite Foods: Tons of food allergies here. I'd have to say Lays potato chips, plain, nothin' on 'em. I'm also as thin as a rail (5'7" 130 lbs) so I can afford to eat 'em. Burger King french fries are also better than any other kind (though I also like Wendy's fries).

Favorite Rock Tunes: Wow, this thing has a lot of rock on it. I'll change it; my favorite country tune is "My Town" by Montgomery Gentry. My favorite piece of martial music for rythm is "Der Panzer Lied" (Though synonymous with the Nazi-controlled Wehrmacht, it was actually written two years BEFORE the Nazis came to power, and all tankers I know seem to like it [even my friend who served in the Israeli Defence Force said it was pretty popular].) and for lyrics, it's a tie between "When Those Caissons Go Rolling Along" and "The Marine Corps Hymn," both of which I know by heart.

Favorite TV Shows: NCIS, CSI (just the original one), Law and Order pre-2002 (before Dick Wolf started injecting so much politics into it).

Favorite Comedy Stuff: Monty Python and anything from the former Monty Python guys, EARLY Mel Brooks (with the exception of Spaceballs, everything including and after Blazing Saddles just got old), EARLY Saturday Night Live (pre-1980); I think you get the gist.

Least Favorite People: Currently Living Bottom Three: Michael Moore, Fidel Castro, Osama Bin-Laden (tied with any other Islamofascist terrorists, and yes, that includes Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad). Currently Dead Bottom Three: Hitler, Stalin, Lenin.

Favorite TV Characters: Sergeant Chip Saunders (Combat!), Gunnery Sergeant Leroy Jethro Gibbs, Ret. (NCIS), Admiral A.J. Chegwidden (JAG...and not because of Conor Jackson, either), can't think of any others offhand.

My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: 61*, Major League, Eight Men Out

I hope Fever members see me as . . .: A decent human being and not an idiot.

Pet Peeves: Baseball and politics mixing, people talking on cellphones REAL LOUD on commuter trains especially, killing off movie characters in the Star Wars expanded universe (when they killed Chewbacca in Vector Prime, I stopped reading the stuff, and have followed it with bleak acceptance since then), steroids, epithets directed at me or my (inevitably East Asian or Southeast Asian) girlfriend and/or that I'm somehow "abnormal" (or worse...a few Asian guys have accused me of "stealing their women," though most have been just fine) because I only go out with and am attracted to East Asian, South Asian, and Southeast Asian women. Also that my room is a mess. It is NOT a mess. I literally know where everything is, Mom and Dad, but I'm organizing it MY way. Does it matter if it's on the floor? You're never even in here!

Brief Notes on Dad: Born 11/9/46 to a future USAF Lt. Colonel (RIP Grandpa Jerry) and my grandmother, who I see every weekend, in the Bronx. Grew up a Giants fan and also wore Dodgers jerseys to tick off the local Yankee fans, but was very knowledgable about all three teams. He salvaged about half his baseball card collection, too. It wasn't all thrown out. Instead, it got destroyed during a flood save for a 1952 Bowman Roy McMillan rookie card. Ditto to ALL the scorecards and yearbooks, except they survived (Plus my great grandfather's scorebook of CARL HUBBELL's PERFECT GAME! Alas, it's blank, but it has the date in it and I doublechecked on retrosheet.). Loved playing with toy soldiers and building model airplanes. Also painting toy soldiers (did it to relax, and became one of the best toy soldier painters around), and some of his stuff was actually used for display and advertising purposes in the 1970's!

Attended CCNY and U of M law school. Enrolled in the ROTC in 1966-1967, was a Second Lieutenant in the US Army before being discharged for lying about having "no medical problems" (has colitis). Never went on active duty, and if he has any flaws, it would be "survivor's guilt," since the guy the bunk over when he was training was KIA in Vietnam. He refuses to call himself a soldier, participate in any military activities (though he has been invited), etc.

Became an ADA for the City of New York (Manhattan DA's Office) in 1976 and retired in 2006. He was a consultant for the Manhattan DA's office in the same bureau from 2006-2009. He retired in early January, 2009. A huge Mets fan.

Brief Notes on Mom: Born in Detroit, MI, 5/22/48. Grew up with three brothers, a loving father, and a really hellacious mother (the only reason my grandfather didn't divorce her was because he was so devoutly religious, and he didn't want to see any of his children be affected by such a divorce). Went to University of Michigan, where she met Dad (then a law student).

Worked in sales for GE, later wrote articles for several magazines. Has the same neurological disorder I have, and we've basically supported each other the past eight years now it's been since my disorder flared up. A Tigers fan and by virtue of Dad and I, a Mets fan. A rabid U of M football fan, too.

Baseball and Me: I got my passion from Dad. Was a pitcher in Little League and Babe Ruth League until a combination of sore arm and illness did me in for good. I'm still throwing at 60'6" in my backyard from a much easier arm slot using much better mechanics.

05-18-2007, 09:05 PM
Patrick Liam Fleming
Born Tulsa, Oaklahoma 11th November 1991
Moved to Limerick Ireland January 1992
Moved to Bray 1996
I Presently reside: Bray, Co. Wicklow, Ireland
Education: St. Cronan's BNS, Currently in Presentation College bray
Nationality: Irish, American
I came by my BB passion from: In 2005 my mom heard from a friend that there was a baseball team nearby and I decided to give it a go, and the rest is history.
Position: Anywhere really, except catcher (although I haven't tried it yet). Pitch also.
Baseball career so far: When I first started playing I knew virtually nothing about the sport so I insisted on staying with a team in which everybody else was younger than me. Played centre field that season. Then during the offseason I broke my arm and so missed most of the next season. This turned out to be a blessing in disguise as during this period my interest in baseball grew immensly and as a result I knew the game better and was a better player when I returned. I ended up only playing the very end of that season. This season I have been experimenting with various positions and I was lucky enough to get the opportunity to pitch after our regular pitchers were unavailable for an upcoming tournament. I decided to give it a try despite having no pitching expierience and turned out to be one of the more consistant on the team. I hope to soon start training with the adult team also.
Best Baseball Moment: Striking out five and getting an assist over two innings.
Work History: None
Favorite ballplayers: Ichiro, Richie Sexy, Brandon Morrow, Ken Griffey Jr., Johan Santana, David Ortiz, Derek Jeter.
Favorite movies: Dr. Strangelove, South Park the Movie, The Last King of Scotland and various others I can't think of at the moment.
Favorite Rock Acts: Arctic Monkeys
Favorite Rock CD's: Everything You Say I am That's What I'm Not-Arctic Monkeys
Music I Don't Care For: I don't have anything wrong with rap music and hip hop music per se, I just can't stand the lifestyle ascociated with it.
Music I'm predisposed to Like: Indie Rock mainly but really it depends on the quality of the song in question.
Classical Music: The entire score of Peer Gynt.
Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Roy Keane, Christy Ring, Michael Corruth, and numerous others.
Favorite Basketball Players: Guy
Favorite Football Runners: Bill
Favorite Movie Directors: Tim Burton
Favorite Actors: To be anounced
Favorite Actresses: To be announced
Favorite Books: Of Mice and Men
Favorite Sports Books:
Favorite Rock Geniuses: Phil Lynnot
Favorite Ice Skaters: Jim
Favorite Rock Voices: Phil Lynnot
Favorite Mixed Martial Artists of the Ultimate Fighting Championships: Ted
Favorite Cool Stuff: Video Games
Hobbies: Video Games, Sports of all types
Favorite Foods: Mexican (not cabbage and bacon)
Favorite Rock Tunes: Whiskey In The Jar-Thin Lizzie
Favorite TV Shows: Arrested Development, Seinfeld, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Father Ted, Family Guy
Favorite Comedy Stuff: Ross Noble
Least Favorite People: Most of the human race,
Favorite TV Characters: Tobias Funke (arrested development), Kramer (Seinfeld) George Costanza (Seinfeld) Larry David (Curb) Stewie (Family Guy) Father Dougle Maguire (Father Ted) Father Jack Hackett (Father Ted)
I hope Fever members see me as . . .: The token Irish guy.
Pet Peeves: People blocking doorways. People who don't get when people are joking. Irish people who wear Yankees merchandise (because they rarely actually even know what sport they play).
Brief Notes on Dad: Cork born engineer.
Brief Notes on Mom: Oklahoma born, Texas raised housewife.

06-08-2007, 05:24 PM

Koufax HOF
06-17-2007, 05:03 PM
Hi everyone!

I`m new to all this but I just love baseball. Being from the UK the only way I can keep up with things is through MLB.com. I`m glad to have it because I get to see any games I want to every day with no blackouts.
I love anything to do with the history of the game and the legends that made it. I`ve bought dozens of books and dvds about the game and wish :) I could have them all!
There was no baseball coverage at all in Britain until about 12 years ago but we now get to see 2 live games a week on regular free TV and the whole World Series.

I`ve had an inerest in baseball for as long as I can remember and the frst team I ever heard of was the Yankees. My interest was piqued and I wanted to find out more. Their rich history is well known but of course EVERY team in the original 16 can be proud, and many of the expansion teams have made their mark too.

My chief interests in baseball are these;
The Great Sandy Koufax
The New York Yankees
The Great Jackie Robinson
The Brooklyn Dodgers- What happened was a Crime
The World Series
The Hall Of Fame

I hope to have fun posting on Baseball Fever and give you all my 2 cents worth when the mood takes me!

06-19-2007, 01:22 PM
I am Lin Kuei Fighter- Big Mortal Kombat fan. Don't like Rap too much, but here's a sports rap I wrote.

I like Baseball very very fine
1960 Pirates Clem Labine
They beat the Yankees led by Stengel
To football, the 49ers beat the Bengals
First in 16, then in 23
Jerry Rice, was the MVP.
John Taylor caught the winning score.
The next year, the niners won title number four.
What’s up?
Mark Messier raising the Stanley Cup
Against the Vancouver Canucks, he did it all, that’s for sure.
He was just on another level.
When his Rangers advanced to the Stanley Cup against the New Jersey Devils
Coached by Mike Keenan
I also like Wrestling, guys like Bobby the Brain Heenan
World Champs: From Sting, to Hulk Hogan
Back to Football, New England Patriots Steve Grogan
Replaced by Tony Eason in Superbowl 20
Beaten by more than a hair.
Got his butt kicked by my boys the Chicago Bears.
In 1970, the Steelers figured what the heck?
Take a guy named Bradshaw from Louisiana Tech
He ended up with 4 Super Bowl Rings
Super Bowl 9, against the Minnesota Vikings
He ended up being a great of the game.
Indeed he is in the pro football Hall of Fame.
Now, here’s something I’d Advise
1972 the Cardinals trade Steve Carlton to the Phillies for Rick Wise
To say The Cards won the deal is all lies
That year Carlton put up career highs.
Sadly the Phillies finished very low
In the world series, MVP Gene Tenace stole the show.
2 homers in his first two World Series at bats
The A’s won back to back to back
That’s three
Despite they hated their owner Charles O. Finley
I’m gonna wrap this up very very soon.
Just let me tell you about a guy named Wally Moon
He was born 4-3-30.
He drank champagne, he drank beer.
1954 NL Rookie Of the Year
He won two World Titles, with LA
That’s my rap, that’s all I gotta say!
Another Song I wrote
The Prize of Losing

Day After Day
Night After Night
Maybe Someday
I'll get it right

But until then
I receive the prize of losing
Feeling the wrath of this
Is very bruising

Feels like a bullet going through my skin
Knowing that I'll never win
As the blood drops through my face like rain
I continue to feel the pain.
I've been kicked to the curb.
Damnit, this is not what I deserve

But THIS is the prize of losing
I didn't know
Why didn't someone tell me so?
THIS is the prize of losing
Someday I will go

Feeling like a loser
As Usual
Wish I could get myself
Out of this hole

It's been days and nights since I felt like this
Knowing that my pain
Is here to stay
As more blood pours down my face like rain


But THIS is the prize of losing
I didn't know
Why didn't someone tell me so?
THIS is the prize of losing
Maybe someday God will call me home.

08-01-2007, 01:42 PM
Sorry but my other one I made was like a year and a half ago and I want to update.

Name: Brandon "Bman" Matics or tyler
Baseball team: Comets
Age: 12 March 9
Height: 5'0
Weight: 98 pounds
Favorite baseball team: Braves
Football: Bengals
Basketball: Heat
Baseball Position: 1st, left field, and pitcher.
Favorite actors: Adam Sandler, Kevin Costner, Jessica Biel :shhh: and anyone whos good haa.
Pet Peeves:

1. People who always brag about how much money they have where in reality they are broke
2. People who do drugs
3. Mets fans
4. The fact that espn only shows Vick, Pacman, Yankees, Kobe, Lebron, and WHOS NOW
5. Sometimes I miss the braves game and ESPN doesn't cover it if it's not exciting enough last night it was 12-4 but no highlights
6. Mets fans who argue that 2 world series is a better accomplishment than 14 consecutive division titles
7. People who make fun of me for my leg disease
8. My ADD
9. Kids who talk so loudly when in reality all they need to do is use an inside voice
10. People that tell me they're better than me when they don't know my skill for whatever they're challenging me against
11. My school! Infested with drugs and a bad environment
12. Girls who starve themselves because they think it's "hot"

08-31-2007, 11:37 PM
Name:not tellin
Date Of Birth: 11/15/1991
Location:jersey city
Height:6 feet I believe
Weight:220+ pounds
Favorite Team:
AL:Yankees (since I started watching baseball.
NL:Astros & Cardinals
Favorite Player of all time:Derek Jeter and The Sultan of Swat, Babe Ruth.
Favorite Player currently:Derek Jeter
Favorite Non Yankee Player:Albert Pujols, Craig Biggio, Rick Ankiel
Least Favorite Team:Boston Red Sox for obvious reasons.
Team that bugs me most:LA Angels, Detroit Tigers, Oakland A's, because they have the Yankees number recently.
Least Favorite Player: Pedro Martinez, Gary Sheffield, & David Ortiz
Least Favorite Yankee Player:Kyle Farnsworth, & Kei Igawa.

Favorite TV Show:sportscenter
Favorite Movie:Space Jam
Favorite Cartoon/Anime:The list is countless
Favorite Music:Anything but Jazz
Favorite Sport other than Baseball:Football, Basketball

09-05-2007, 04:19 PM
I never posted here I believe, I don't really have the time to make a whole bio now, I'll just write enough info for the mini bio.

Name - Jordan (thats easy it's in my screen name!)

I'm north of Albany, NY (Burnt Hills to be exact)

and I was born on march 8th '91

09-05-2007, 04:51 PM
Justin Robert Mckinney, 5'8; 160 lbs.
Born: January 3, 1981, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
1981-Present: Lived near downtown Calgary

I Presently reside: Calgary, AB
Education: Univeristy Grad(BA in English)
Nationality: Canadian
I came by my BB passion from: my love of hockey cards, which grew into a love of collecting baseball cards, and discovering a baseball glove in by house when I was 8.
Work History: Sporadic and varied. Currently job searching, trying to save money to go to grad school.
Favorite ballplayers: Cal Ripken Jr., Vladimir Guerrero, Derek Jeter, Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, Johnny Evers, Roberto Clemente, Hanley Ramirez.
Favorite movies: The Graduate, Kids Return, On The Waterfront, Billy Madison, Days of Being Wild
Favorite Rock Acts: R.E.M., Lou Reed, The Clash, The Smiths, Ben Folds, Simon & Garfunkel, The Jam
Favorite Rock CD's: Ben Folds Rockin' The Suburbs, Van Morrison Astral Weeks, The Velvet Underground & Nico, Simon & Garfunkel The Sounds of Silence
Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: R.E.M. Eponymous, The Smiths Best II
Music I Don't Care For: Although I may like an isolated example from a category, the categories I don't care for, as a whole are: nothing really
Music I'm predisposed to Like: This means my favorite musical categories: Punk, Hip-Hop, Country, Rock, Folk, Jazz, Blues, Bluegrass.
Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Muhammed Ali, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Rod Laver, Steffi Graf, Wayne Gretzky, Bobby Orr, Jim Brown, Jim Thorpe, Lionel Conacher.
Favorite Basketball Players: Dominique Wilkins, Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, Chauncey Billups.
Favorite Football Runners: Larry Johnson, LaDainian Tomlinson, Bryant Westbrook.
Favorite Movie Directors: Takeshi Kitano, Johnny To, Martin Scorsese, Mike Nichols
Favorite Actors: Tom Hanks, Andy Lau, Tony Leung, Will Ferrell
Favorite Actresses: Julia Stiles, Sammi Cheng, Anita Mui, Sarah Jessica Parker
Favorite Books: Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger, The Basketball Diaries by Jim Carroll, anything by John Steinbeck
Favorite Sports Books: The Glory of Their Times by Lawrence Ritter, The Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract(any version), Ball Four by Jim Bouton, The Wrong Stuff by Bill Lee, Baseball As I Have Known It by Fred Lieb, among many others. I love biographies, first hand accounts, and Bill James.
Favorite Rock Geniuses: Joe Strummer, Johnny Cash, Brian Wilson, John Lennon, Lou Reed
Favorite Ice Skaters: za? Elvis Stojko was pretty dope I guess.
Favorite Rock Voices: Michael Stipe, Lou Reed, Natalie Maines.
Those I Admire Most: Jackie Robinson, my parents, my oldest brother, Owen Hart.
My Most Admired Americans: Jack Johnson, Jimmy Carter
Favorite Mixed Martial Artists of the Ultimate Fighting Championships: Forrest Griffin, Mike Bisping
Technically Best-Made Movies: The Godfather, Star Wars.
Favorite Cool Stuff: Diet Pepsi
Hobbies: Sports, Reading, Watching TV, hanging out.
Favorite Foods: Sushi, Pho, Authentic Chinese cuisine, Hot Pot, French Fries
Favorite Rock Tunes: "E-Bow The Letter" by R.E.M. "One I Love" by R.E.M., "Fields" by The Skids, "Poem on an Underground Wall" by Simon & Garfunkel, "Thick as Thieves" by The Jam
Favorite TV Shows: The Office, Arrested Development, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, The Cosby Show, The Simpsons, Kids in the Hall, Trailer Park Boys
Favorite Comedy Stuff: Will Ferrell, Kids in the Hall, Bill Murray, Adam Sandler
Least Favorite People: Tim McCarver and Joe Morgan(as commentators anyway), GWB.
Favorite TV Characters: Dwight (The Office), Theo (The Cosby Show), Bubbles (The Trailer Park Boys).
My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: Eight Men Out, Field of Dreams, Bang The Drum Slowly, Cooperstown, The Sandlot, The Bad News Bears(original only).
I hope Fever members see me as ...: Articulate, open-minded, pragmatic.
Pet Peeves: People who walk slower than I do.
Brief Notes on Dad: My dad is a communist who worked for the post office, and took care of quads, and now yells at the TV while watching bad Sci Fi shows.
Brief Notes on Mom: My mom takes care of Alzheimer's patients and has a disturbing fondness for Big Brother and Canadian Idol.
Photos of me.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Justinthyme/justin.jpg

09-27-2007, 01:03 PM
Matthew Donnelly; 5'8; 195 lbs.
Born: November 10, 1972, Johnson City, NY.
1972-1989 - Vestal, NY
1989-1997 (part-time 1990-1994) - Johnson City, NY
1998-Present- New Milford, PA

I Presently reside: New Milford, PA
Education: Seton Catholic Central High School, Binghamton, NY, 1990
BA, History, Ithaca College, 1994
MAT, Secondary Education, Binghamton University, 2003
Nationality: Almost entirely Irish
I came by my BB passion from: Family - My older brothers are rabid Mets fans, and My cousins in Chicago are almost-as-rabid white Sox fans.
Work History: 1994-2002 - Crappy customer service Jobs
2002-2006 - Substitute teaching
2006-present - Business/Technology teacher

Favorite ballplayers:
Roberto Clemente
Monte Ward
Tom Seaver
Walter Johnson
Sandy Koufax
Luke Appling
Ted Lyons
Keith Hernandez (his Just for Men ads woth Him and Clyde Frazier acting like dirty old men are hilarious!)
Len Dykstra
Jack McDowell

Dave Wright
Jose Reyes
Dave Eckstein
Tom Glavine
Miguel Cabrera
Joe Crede
Scott Podsednik

Favorite movies:
Star Wars
Lord of the Rings
Anything by Hitchcock
For Love of the Game
Eight Men Out
Major League

Favorite Rock Acts:
Johnny Cash

Favorite Basketball Players:
Larry Bird

Favorite Football Runners:
Joe Morris

Favorite Movie Directors: Hitchcock

Favorite Sports Books:
The Bad Guys Won
Once More Around The Park

Favorite Cool Stuff: 1964 Phillies World Series ticket,

Favorite TV Shows: MST3K, Cheap Seats, MXC (I obvoiusly have a thing for voiceovers)

10-22-2007, 01:28 PM
Name: David

Age (at time of posting) - 33

Locale: Dayton, TX

Occupation: Teacher (although it's just full-time subbing at the moment)

Number of times I was a Little League All-Star: 1
Probable reason I wasn't better at my favorite sport: Born with amplyopia and astigmatism in my right eye - I see 20/200 in it, although my left eye is 20/20.

Married? Once, for 5 years. 1999-2004.

Children? Nope.

Graduated from Lamar University in 2001. I have a B.A. in history, and a minor in sociology. I attended a year of grad school at University of North Texas in Denton before my divorce.

Favorite team: Astros

Favorite player: Nolan Ryan

How I found out about BBF/BBA: Searching for a box score of Nolan's last (tragic) game.

Favorite beer: Shiner Bock

Pets? A cat and a dog.

Faith? Non-denom Christian, though raised Baptist.

Other interests: Singing, playing guitar and piano, Star Wars, Ford Mustangs, pretty girls, interesting people..........too much to list. :)

I may insert a photo, just need to get a current one.

Long live BBF, and many thanks to Mr. Sean Holtz and the other founders!

P.S. - Sorry it took this long to reply, Bill.

10-22-2007, 09:14 PM
Stephen Lee Antkiewicz 5'10 190
Born 11-14-80 Pittsburgh, PA

I Presently reside: Pittsburgh, PA

Education: High School. I was in the Army from 98-04. The best education you can get

Nationality: Polish, German, Scots-Irish, Scottish, Pennsylvania Dutch, French Canadian

I came by my BB passion from: My family

Work History: Army 98-04, Carpenters union 04-

Favorite ballplayers: Honus Wagner, Ted Williams, Freddy Sanchez

Favorite movies: Slap Shot, Any good Baseball movie

Favorite Rock Acts: Kiss, Metallica, Pink Floyd, Bruce Springsteen, John Mellencamp, Michael Mcdonald

Favorite Rock CD's: Too many

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: Too many

Music I Don't Care For: Music that has to be censored every 3 seconds to be played on the radio

Music I'm predisposed to Like: Classic rock

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Jim Thorpe, Michael Jordan, Ty Cobb

Favorite Basketball Players: Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain

Favorite Football Runners: Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Jerome Bettis, Franco Harris

Favorite Movie Directors: Speilberg, Lucas, Hughes

Favorite Actors: Bill Murray, John Candy, Keven Costner, Deniro, Pacino
Tom Hanks

Favorite Books:
Any good baseball book

Favorite Sports Books:
Too many

Favorite Rock Geniuses:
Brian Wilson, Berry Gordy, Phil Spector

Favorite Rock Voices: Micheal Mcdonald, Smokey Robinson, Daryl Hall

Those I Admire Most: My parents and grandparents

My Most Admired Americans:
All memebers of the Armed Forces

Hobbies: Sports, Music, History

Favorite Foods: Hot Dogs, Polish food

Favorite Rock Tunes: Too many

Favorite TV Shows: M*A*S*H, Married... With Children

Favorite Comedy Stuff: Richard Pryor, Bill Cosby, Steven Wright

My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: Field of dreams, 61*, The Sandlot, A league of their own, Eight Men out

I hope Fever members see me as . . .: A nice guy
Pet Peeves: People who cant drive right

Brief Notes on Dad: A great guy

Brief Notes on Mom: A strong lady

10-26-2007, 02:46 PM
I Presently reside: boston

Education: graduate education in science/engineering

Nationality: indian (as in from india)

I came by my BB passion from: curiosity about its similarity to cricket and watching the game. became a more serious fan when the bosox won the world series in '04.

Work History: higher education.

Favorite ballplayers: roger clemens, schilling, pedro martinez, david ortiz (i am embarrassed to say i am not yet dialed into the deep sense of history and tradition of the game that everyone else here has. so my picks are from the ones i have seen.

Favorite movies: many westerns, world war II movies, dead poets' society, scent of a woman, nearly all of alfred hitchcock whodunits.

Favorite Rock CD's: too many - the doors, jethrotull, dire straits, led zep.

Music I Don't Care For: country music.

Music I'm predisposed to Like: anything by miles davis, coltrane, monk, ahmad jamal, earl hines and other jazz greats. anything by stevie ray vaughan, eric clapton, buddy guy, muddy waters, howlin' wolf, and johnny winter.

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: michael jordan, jesse owens, pele, michael holding (cricket), glenn mcgrath (cricket) etc.

Favorite Basketball Players: jordan, bird, magic johnson, and karl malone.

Favorite Football Runners: not much of a football fan

Favorite Movie Directors: too many

Favorite Actors: jim carrey, denzel washington, robin williams, sean connery

Favorite Actresses: too many

Favorite Books: midnight's children, the invisible man, grapes of wrath

Favorite Sports Books: out of my comfort zone (by ex australian cricket captain steve waugh)

My Most Admired Americans: richard feynman, michael jordan, jack welch, miles davis

My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: still learning. going to watch ken burns's baseball

I hope Fever members see me as . . .: a baseball novice.

Brief Notes on Dad: a doctor
Brief Notes on Mom: a teacher.

neither know anything about baseball.

10-26-2007, 04:00 PM
I Presently reside: Boston-area
Education: B.A. Marist College (Poughkeepsie, NY)
Nationality: Italian/Irish
I came by my BB passion from: Years and years of discussing and devouring anything baseball related
Work History: Lots of it... but I used to work for Donald Trump when I lived in NY. Now I'm in Marketing.
Favorite ballplayers: Alltime? Yaz, Spike Owen, Tony Mullane, Wally Judnich, Todd Benzinger
Favorite movies: Shawshank, Field of Dreams, Dead Poet's Society
Favorite Rock Acts: Toad the Wet Sprocket, Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith
Favorite Rock CD's: WAY too many to list
Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: See above
Music I Don't Care For: Country, blues, gospel, Rap, and all this new crap I keep hearing over and over and over and over and over and over...
Music I'm predisposed to Like: Classic Rock
Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Willie Mays has got to be up on the list.
Favorite Basketball Players: Not a big basketball fan. Follow the Celtics a bit.
Favorite Football Players: Randall Cunningham, Reggie White, Steve Largent. I'm a big Philadelphia Eagles fan.
Favorite Actors: I suppose I like Joaquin Phoenix
Favorite Actresses: Nicole Kidman, Jennifer Connelly, many many more
Favorite Books: Winds of War, Some Must Watch, War and Rememberance
Favorite Sports Books: Most; just finished "The Universal Baseball Association"
Favorite Rock Geniuses: Fred Flintstone
Favorite Ice Skaters: Huh?
Favorite Rock Voices: This rock thing is getting redundant.
Those I Admire Most: Anyone willing to put in the maximum effort in life. So many, including myself, are content to just relax.
My Most Admired Americans: None in particular.
Favorite Mixed Martial Artists of the Ultimate Fighting Championships: Good lord.
Technically Best-Made Movies: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Favorite Cool Stuff: Techno gadgets that I don't get until 5 years later
Hobbies: Chasing my daughter around, and everything related to baseball
Favorite Foods: Indian Food, Mexican, Swordfish... is beer a food?
Favorite Rock Tunes: Enough with the rock already...
Favorite TV Shows: Baseball!
Favorite Comedy Stuff: Anything that makes me laugh... though the TV show "Strangers With Candy" comes to mind (look it up)
Least Favorite People: Teenagers (sorry, that was a generalization)
Favorite TV Characters: None in particular
My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: All
I hope Fever members see me as . . .: Knowledgable and trustworthy
Pet Peeves: Destruction for destruction sake (see my note about teenagers)
Brief Notes on Dad: Not very close, but shares my love of baseball
Brief Notes on Mom: Rest in Peace
Photos of me: I won't torture anyone with those

Stray Cat
11-07-2007, 03:21 PM
Presently reside:Mid-Missouri
Education: High School, everyday is an education.
Nationality: Half Missourian, half British
I came by my BB passion from: My dad.
Work History: Laboratory Phlebotomist, Floral Delivery, Library Circulation.
Favorite ballplayers: Tony Gwynn, Cal Ripkin, Erik Byrnes, Pete Rose, Orel Herschiser.
Favorite movies: The Natural, Close Encounters, All the Bourne Movies
Favorite Rock Acts: Beatles, Genesis, Rush, Boston, Animals, Chicago, Fleetwood Mac, Grand Funk Railroad, Kinks, Led Zeppelin, Police, Robin Trower.
Favorite Rock CD's: Bridge of Sighs, Robin Trower, Captain Fantastic, Elton John, Meet the Beatles,
Music I Don't Care For: Rap
Favorite Comedy Stuff: George Carlin
Least Favorite People: Rude people.
Favorite TV Character: Dr. Who. Heroes
My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: The Natural
I hope Fever members see me as . . .: Someone who loves the game.
Pet Peeves: Hate people who talk on their cell phone all the time.
Brief Notes on Dad: Gave me my love for baseball and other sports
Brief Notes on Mom:Gave me my love for music.
Rock Guitarist: Robin Trower, Peter Frampton, George Harrison
Rock Drummer: Neil Peart

11-15-2007, 08:35 PM
Name: David

Age: 13

Home: Born in Long Island, NY. Moved to West Palm in Florida several years ago.

Lakeside Elementary K-3
Panther Run 4-5
Polo Park Middle School 6-8

Employment: None yet, as it is against child labor laws, but I do help my father. (He owns a books business and I help him by labeling books/schlepping boxes/whatever)

I've been watching baseball since I was 4, but I started to follow when I was 6, I started watching other sports when I was 7, but baseball was and is still my passion.

Hobbies: Baseball cards, baseball, football, computers, television, video games.

Favorite Books: Flyboys, World War Z, Boys of Summer, October Men, Ball Four, L.A. Rex, My Life by Bill Clinton. I read alot but most books I wouldn't consider my favorites.

Favorite Movies: Star Wars, The Godfather (I and II), American Gangster, Indiana Jones series, there's many more.

Favorite Actors: Denzel Washington, Tommy Lee Jones, Harrison Ford, Mark Wahlberg.

Favorite Bands: Tupac Shakur, Biggie Smalls, The Beatles, The Game, Nas.

Favorite Songs: Ether, Revolution, Ten Crack Commandments, Hit 'Em Up

Favorite Athletes: Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Rickey Henderson, Don Mattingly, Bernie Williams, Bob Gibson, Ty Cobb, Jesse Tannehill, Rogers Hornsby, Paul O'Neil, Thurman Munson, Ron Guidry, Lou Brock, Rod Carew, Willie McCovey.

11-19-2007, 06:28 PM
Favorite Rock Guitarists: George Harrison (Beatles, 1962-70),

We are best friends :highfive:.

Pet Peeves: Close minded people, tattoos, arrogant soccer players, Family Guy, Pink Floyd, Aerosmith.

Favorite TV shows: South Park, The Simpsons, Yes Dear, Everybody Loves Raymond.

Favorite Movies: The Untouchables, Bull Durham, 300, Matrix Series, Godfather, and American X.

Favorite Music Groups (in order): The Beatles, The Clash, The Who, Guns N Roses, Led Zeppilen, .38 Special, Queen, The Monkees, The Ramones, Dropkick Murphys, Pink Floyd, Lynard SKynard, Aerosmith, Sweet.

Favorite Artists (in order for the first 5, then just random): George Harrison, Bob Dylan, John Lennon Eric Clapton, Roger Waters, Jimmy Page, Paul McCartney, Ozzy Osbourne, Jimmie Hendrix, Joe Strummer, Pete Townshend, Robert Plant, Freddie Mercury, Roger Daltry, Joey Ramone, John Entwistle, Sid Vicious, Bon Scott, Slash, and probably more.

Favorite Songs: Something (Beatles), Come Together (Beatles), I Want to tell You (Beatles), Blitzkrieg Bop (Ramones), Isn't It a Pity (George Harrison), I Dig Love (George Harrison), I'd Have You Anytime (George Harrison), Comfortably Numb (Pink Floyd), Substitute (The Who), Won't Get Fooled Again (The Who), Over The Hills and Far Away (Led Zeppilen), Freebird (Lynard Skynard), Whole Lotta Love (Led Zeppilen), Train in Vain (The Clash), Clamdown (The Clash), California Uber Alles (Dead Kennedys), Take A Giant Step (The Monkees), Love in An Elevator (Aerosmith), Rock and Roll (Led Zeppilen).

11-21-2007, 08:15 PM
I Presently reside: Denver, Colorado
Education: BA in History and German '03, Juris Doctorate '07
Nationality: Native-American, Scots-Irish decent.
I came by my BB passion from:I have no idea.
Work History:Attorney
Favorite ballplayers:Ty Cobb, Mark Grace, Sam Crawford, Bob Gibson, Ryne Sandberg, Todd Helton.
Favorite movies: Vanilla Sky, The Thin Red Line
Favorite Rock Acts: The Beatles, Tool, Radiohead
Favorite Rock CD's: Rubber Soul by the Beatles
Favorite Rock Geniuses:Lennon & McCartney
Favorite Rock Voices:Thom Yorke
Favorite Rock Guitarists:Jimmy Paige
Favorite Rock Drummers:John Bonham
Music I Don't Care For:Rap
Greatest Athletes of 20th Century:Ty Cobb, Walter Payton, Jim Thorpe, Dave Winfield
Favorite Basketball Players: What's basketball?
Pet Peeves: People who don't understand historical context, poverty pimps, snoring, the designated hitter

*edited* to add Dave Winfield to greatest athletes of the 20th century...drafted in 4 major leagues, MLB, NFL, NBA, and ABA...wow.

12-24-2007, 06:05 PM
James E. Booth; 5'11; 200 lbs.
Born: 1950, Sacramento, CA
1950-76: Lived in Sacramento, CA
1976-2006: Lived in Novato, CA (Marin County north of San Francisco)

I Presently reside: Gilbert, AZ
Education: 1 year of college
Nationality: American
I came by my BB passion from: Just loved the game from first playing at age 6
Work History: 1969 to 2001 computer programmer/IT consultant
2001 to present - teach baseball
Favorite ballplayers: Willie Mays, Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle, Babe Ruth, Derek Jeter, Omar Vizquel
Favorite movies: Sleuth, Jagged Edge, Guilty as Sin, Forest Gump, A Christmas Story
Favorite Rock Acts: Beatles, Stones, Tower of Power, Billy Joel
Music I Don't Care For: Hip Hop and Old style Country
Music I'm predisposed to Like: I like all types of music, but mostly rock
Favorite Actors: Michael Caine, Dustin Hoffman, Gene Hackman, Sir Laurence Olivier
Favorite Actresses: Meryl Streep, Sandra Bullock
Those I Admire Most: President Harry S. Truman
My Most Admired Americans: Anyone who gives of their time and money to help others
Favorite Comedy Stuff: Larry the cable guy
Least Favorite People: Rosie O'Donnell, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, OJ Simpson

01-10-2008, 10:56 AM
I Presently reside: Birmingham, England
Education: 11 GCSEs, currently doing AS Levels.
Nationality: English
I came by my BB passion from: Discovering it was on in the middle of the night when I can't be bothered to sleep
Work History: Paper round?
Favorite ballplayers: David Wright, Eric Chavez, Nick Swisher, Mike Piazza, Pedro Martinez, Randy Johnson, Albert Pujols, Billy Wagner, Vlad Guerrero
Favorite Rock Acts: REM, RHCP, British Sea Power, Belle and Sebastian, The Sounds, The Shins, Architecture in Helsinki
Favorite Rock CD's: Anything by the above'll do
Favorite Rock Voices: Chris Cornell, Jeff Buckley, Anthony Kiedis, Nick Cave, Stuart Murdoch
Favorite Rock Guitarists: John Frusciante, Slash
Music I Don't Care For:. Sum 41, Good Charlotte, Nickelback, Blink 182 and their ilk
Music I'm predisposed to Like: Indie, Alternative, New Wave, Electro-ish
Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Don Bradman, Babe Ruth, Pele, Jesse Owens, the usuals?
Favorite Movie Directors: Wes Anderson
Favorite Sports Books: Only read one, Playing Hard Ball by Ed Smith
Hobbies: Cricket (playing and watching), drinking, "chilling", music
Favorite Foods: Anything fatty and meaty'll do me just fine. Hard to beat a good footlong from Subway
Favorite Rock Tunes: Last Goodbye - Jeff Buckley
Favorite TV Shows: House, CSI, sport, MTV2, Shark,
Favorite Comedy Stuff: Flight of The Conchords, Charlie Brooker, Mock The Week, Chaser's War On Everything, Ross Noble, Scrubs
Least Favorite Comedy Stuff: Catherine Tate, Little Britain and such.
Favorite TV Characters: Brett/Jermaine (FOTC), Horatio Caine, Mac Taylor, Warrick Brown, Foreman (House), Dr Cox
My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: Out of the limited selection.....Bull Durham

02-04-2008, 11:30 PM
Robert Clark "Robbie" Griffin; 5'7; 145 lbs.
Born: June 7th, 1985, Inverness, FL
1985-86: Brookesville, FL
1986-88: Lakeland, FL
1988-91: Tampa, FL
1991-94: Grapevine, TX
1994-2000: Cimarron, NM
2000-Present: Kennewick, WA
In addition to residing in Kennewick, I went to Western Washington University in Bellingham, WA, from 2003-2005 and Washington State University in Pullman, WA from 2005-2007. Every summer I spend five months in New Mexico, and I lived in Orlando, FL, for the first 5 months of 2006.

I Presently reside: Kennewick, WA

Education: Some college

Nationality: Mixed
I came by my BB passion from: Going to Rangers games as a kid.

Work History: Four years as an assitant caterer, one year as a newspaper sports writer, five summers of mixed work at a High Adventure Base in New
Mexico and former Cast Member at Walt Disney World.

Favorite Sports: NFL, NCAA Football, NCAA Basketball, MLB, AFL

Favorite Teams: Cowboys, Rangers, WSU Cougars, LA Lakers, LA Avengers

Favorite ballplayers: Rusty Greer, Ivan Rodriguez, Nolan Ryan, Michael Young, Hank Blalock, Cal Ripken Jr, Jackie Robinson

Favorite movies: The Star Wars and Lord of the Rings Trilogies, as well as anything by Steven Spielberg or Martin Scorsese.

Favorite Rock Acts: Switchfoot, Everclear, Aerosmith, Nirvana, Guns n' Roses

Favorite Rock CD's: The Beautiful Letdown and Nothing is Sound by Switchfoot.

Favorite "Greatest Hits" Collections: The Beatle's "One" and Aerosmith's "Oh Yeah"

Favorite Rock Geniuses: Art Alexakis, George Harrison, Kurt Cobain, Jon Foreman

Favorite Rock Voices: Axl Rose, Jon Foreman

Favorite Rock Guitarists: George Harrison, Carlos Santana, Jimmi Hendrix, Joe Perry, Slash

Favorite Rock Drummers: Travis Barker

Music I Don't Care For: Rap/Hip Hop, Teeny Pop

Music I'm predisposed to Like: Jazz, Orchestra, Soundtracks (movies and games), Alternative Rock, Hard Rock, Disney (yes, I said it), Country

Classical Music: Cliche, but I like Beethoven.

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: By sports I care about, Sammy Baugh, Babe Ruth, Walter Payton, John Elway, Pedro Martinez, Dick Lane, Lew Alcindor, Michael Jordan, Herschel Walker and Martina Navratilova

Favorite Basketball Players: David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Dwayne Wade, Kyle Weaver and Shaq and Kobe for no reason other than helping my team win.

(I wasn't sure what Football Runners meant, so. . .)
Favorite Football Players: Emmitt Smith, Bill Bates, Marion Barber, Jason Witten, Tony Romo, DeMarcus Ware, Drew Bledsoe, Marcus Trufant, Jerome Harrison, Darren Woodson, Deion Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Troy Aikman, Darryl Johnston, Roger Staubach, Walter Payton, Derrick Brooks

Favorite QB: Tony Romo

Favorite RB: Emmitt Smith

Favorite WR: Marvin Harrison

Favorite TE: Jason Witten

Favorite OL: Larry Allen

Favorite DL: Bob Lilly

Favorite LB: DeMarcus Ware

Favorite DB: Darren Woodson

Favorite Movie Directors: Steven Spielberg, Martin Scorsese, Robert Zemeckis

Favorite Actors: Kevin Spacey, Johnny Depp, Gary Oldman

Favorite Actresses: Cate Blanchett, Kate Winslett, Julia Roberts

Favorite Books: The Lord of the Rings, To Kill a Mockingbird

Favorite Sports Books: Anything published by Sports Illustrated.

Those I Admire Most: My parents, Walt Disney, Baden Powell

My Most Admired Americans: Walt Disney, Ronald Reagan, Bill and Melinda Gates

Technically Best-Made Movies: Lord of the Rings

Hobbies: Patch Collecting, Cooking, Football History (particularly the Super Bowl), Writing, Video Games, Outdoor Recreation

Favorite Foods: Tex/Mex, Seafood

Favorite Rock Tunes: "November Rain," Guns n' Roses

Favorite TV Shows: Arrested Development, The Office, Chuck, Seinfeld, Fraiser

Least Favorite People: Al Franken, Bill Maher

Favorite TV Characters: Dwight Schrute, Agent John Casey, Ashley Banks, GOB Bluth, Tobias Funke, Buster Bluth

My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: A League of Their Own, Field of Dreams

I hope Fever members see me as . . .: Learned but still learning.

Pet Peeves: Stupidity

Brief Notes on Dad: Professional Boy Scout, and I'm his spitting image in too many ways.

Brief Notes on Mom: The person who raised me.

Photos of me.
Me in my costume from the Haunted Mansion

02-06-2008, 12:00 PM
Name: Steven Joseph Osuchowski
Home Town : Albany, New York
Birthdate: 11-13-1979
Education: BFA, Graphic Design
Nationality: Irish, English, Native American (abenaki tribe) My mother is an Irish immagrant from Northern Ireland(Derry)(If you know anything about northern Ireland you will know what side my family is on by name I used for her Hometown)
Favorite Baseball Team: New York Yankees
Music: I love music and like everything from death metal to Jazz and Old Blues. But I love Punk Rock and HardCore as well as Old Ska(Reggae) Johnny Cash, Robert Johnson and Coltrane
Music I'm predisposed to Like: Punk, Hardcore,Oi!, Old Jazz, Old Blues, Ska (Reggae), Old Country, Irish Music
How I came by my baseball Passion: Like I think most of us I first fell in love with baseball as a boy, learn for my dad(and has been though bad times and good a thing we could always talk about together). It grew I think partly because of my love of history, baseball is full of history and I love learning more. I was Lucky enough as a boy my sister actually worked across the street from the HOF in cooperstown when she was in college, so I had a chance to see the HOF and cooperstown many times.
Hobbies As well as being a Designer, I am a Fine Artists. I love art and createing art Oil painting, pen and ink drawing, scratch board ect.
Authors: Hunter S. Thompson, William S Burroughs, Jack Kerouac
Favorite Movie Directors:Stanley Kubrick, Martin Scorsese, Terry Gilliam
Least Favorite People: George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove ( I am registered to vote but not with a party, regardless of party or poltical Ideology this administration have done EVERYTHING wrong! I have studied foreign policy and they have done the worst possible job to help America in anyway, and domestic polcy is a joke! They are the worst adminstration in my lifetime(sorry for the rant)
Favorite TV Shows: Simpsons, Family Guy, Venture Bros., Daily Show, Colbert Report, Mythbusters
Favorite Comedy Stuff: Bill Hicks, George Carlin, Richard Pryor, David Chappell, Will Ferrell

richie hebner
02-22-2008, 01:12 PM
My name is Ray. I grew up in a small steel mill town just south of Pittsburgh. After High School I spent 3 years in the US Army as a communications specialist (commo man) with a tank battalian in Schweinfurt Germany. If you have a good sense of WWII history you will recognize this town as one that was bombed every Tuesday night for the purpose of destroying the ball bearing factory. The Allies failed to do so. While stationed there the factory burned to ground in some sort of industrial accident.

After discharge from the Army I bounced around as a draftsman/designer for several years. It was about this time that I married and am so to the same woman 41 years later. I worked in pharmaceuticals and health care for the remainder of my work career. Too many jobs and promotions to count and bore you with.

I currently am retired and live about 12-15 miles from Comerica Park. Though a lifetime Pirate fan I share the same passion for the Detroit Tigers.
Well thats about it for me.


02-26-2008, 09:03 PM
Name: Ian Usher
Hometown: Toronto, Ontario
Born: April 3, 1992
Favourite Team: Blue Jays
Favourite Music: Rock, especially Rush, Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Neil Young
Favourite Guitarists: Alex Lifeson, Pete Townshend, John Frusciante
Favourite Drummers: Neil Peart, Keith Moon
Favourite TV Shows: The Simpsons, Seinfeld, That 70s Show, South Park
Favourite Movies: The Rookie, Ocean's Eleven, anything with Ben Stiller or Adam Sandler
Favourite Baseball Players: Willie Mays, Pete Rose, Sandy Koufax, John MacDonald, Aaron Hill, Roy Halladay

George H Ruth
02-28-2008, 02:51 PM
Name: George
Born June 17th 1958
I live in New York City
How was I introduce to the game: My grandfather was a huge baseball fans, saw Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth play at least 30 times, told me so many stories about them, that I just fell in love with those two players and the game.
Occupation: Real Estate
Favorite Baseball players: Ken Griffey, Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Ty Cobb
Favorite Pitchers: Roy Halladay, Walter Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens
Favorite Basketball Players: Vince Carter, Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Chris Bosh, Walt Frazier, Willis Reed
Favorite Football players: Joe Mantana, Johnny Unitas, Walter Payton, Joe Namath
Favorite Hockey player: Wayne Gretzky
Favorite movies: All the Rocky's, Rambo, Few Good Men

That's about it I guess, if you want to know more just ask me.

03-04-2008, 06:12 AM
Name- Stephen Jones, from Fairview Park, OH, but living in Cleveland, OH.
Used to live in NY, Knoxville, and Chicago and the UK.
Introduced to the game by my dad, and grandfather.
Occupation- Games design/author
Fave teams- Yankees and Cubs
Fave players- Jeter, Sandberg, Maddux, Posada, Pettitte
Fave basketball players- Jordan,Le Bron
Fave football players- Aikman, Marino, Terell Davis
Fave hockey players- Jagr, Gretsky
Fave movies- Goodfellas, Godfather, Scarface, the Untouchables, Field of dreams
Fave bands- Bruce springsteen + e street band, Tom Petty, Bon Jovi, 3 doors downs, lonestar.
Fave TV shows- Seinfeld, Family Guy, Simpsons, King of the Hill, South Park, my name is earl, king of queens.
fave comedians- Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, Jerry Seinfeld
Family roots- Mom- Irish/anglo
Dad- Irish/italian

Ninja Boi
04-03-2008, 01:15 PM
Name: Jay
DOB: feb 67
Live: Lancashire UK
Hobbies: Designing websites, online forums, Games, Trading Cards, Action Figures, Art, Movies and TV.
Fave Sports: Soccer, Baseball, Tennis, Ice Hockey.
Fave Sports men/women: Mike Mussina, David Beckham, Cristiana Ronaldo, Steffi Graf, Chris Evert, Justine Henin.
Fave Musicians: Shania Twain, Bryan Adams, Delta Goodrem, Sheryl Crow, Madonna, Tim Mcgraw, Faith Hill, Chely Wright, Ty Herndon.
Fave actors: Gary Sinese, Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, Harrison Ford, David Duchovny.
Fave actresses: Carla Gugino, Demi Moore, Sharon Stone, Elizabeth Mitchell, Angelina Jolie, Evangeline Lilly, Gillian Anderson.
Fave sports teams: Aston Villa FC, NY Yankees, T Blue Jays, T Maple Leafs, Manchester United FC.
Fave TV shows: Sky sports (UK), MLB on 5 (UK), CSI new york, Criminal Minds, Bones, LA Law, Chicago Hope, Karen Sisco, The Golden Girls, Hart to Hart, Dallas, Threshold, Cops, LOST, Bionic woman.

04-06-2008, 04:54 AM
Name: Bryce Maddox
DOB: 2-13-90, in San Luis Obispo, CA
Hobbies: Sports, music, photography
Fav sports: baseball (obviously), football
Fav music: Pretty much anything, except rap or country. Favorite bands include Metallica, Slayer, Grateful Dead, The Doors
Pet peeves: Intolerance/narrow-mindedness, my high school, kids who act like the popular kids to "fit in", arrogance, wannabe rappers

05-01-2008, 12:45 AM
OK, I'm going to try this again -- even though it's going to out me!

NAME: Judy (Oh, NO! A female -- :eek:)
DOB: 9/13/46 (Oh, NO! An ancient female -- :eek:)
LIVE: San Antonio, Texas
OCCUPATION: Retired special ed teacher/ academic librarian
FAVORITE SPORTS/TEAMS: Baseball -- Cardinals, then Astros, & about six others, not including Yankees or Red Sox, San Antonio Missions; Football -- University of Texas, Dallas Cowboys; Basketball -- Spurs
FAVORITE SPORTS PEOPLE: Bill Mazeroski (would have him for my avatar, but don't know how to do it), Stan Musial, Craig Biggio, Roberto Clemente, Jackie Robinson, Mia Hamm, Stefi Graf, Kat Osterman, Alva Jo Fisher.
BECAME A FAN: When I was very young (way back in the days of olde), listening to my great-grandfather's old wooden radio and later watching the first B&W games on TV with him. Loved that guy.
FAVORITE MUSIC: Sixties (too many to list), blues (any era), Stevie Ray Vaughn, Springsteen, Mellencamp, Sheryl Crow, Marcia Ball, Bonnie Raitt, Mary-Chapin Carpenter, Guy Clark, George Strait, Willie Nelson.
FAVORITE TV SHOWS: Current -- Law & Order (original), Boston Legal, Friday Night Lights; Past -- Northern Exposure; Syndicated -- Star Trek (excluding "Enterprise" and "DS9)
FAVORITE FLICK: Harold & Maude
HOBBIES: Deciding what my all-time lineup would be, hanging out with Druids, collecting baseball cards (2Bmen, catchers), reading, computer (even though I can't do much with it), trying to find skinny shoes.
FAVORITE WAY TO WASTE AN AFTERNOON: Sitting outside listening to/watching the birds & other urban wildlife (including my dog) with my back to the sun.

Keystone Judy is between her parents, October, 2008.
catcher24 welcomes keystone: May 1, 2008, 04:03 AM
Welcome, Keystone. Never been any problem here with females, young or old. Baseball fans of any gender and era are welcome! And you're not ancient, at least to a guy closing in fast on birthday #57! Also glad you seem to like catchers (note my handle). Once again, welcome and enjoy your time here at BBF!
ShoelessJoe3 welcomes keystone; May 2, 2008, 08:02 AM
Come right in Keystone, Judy, we don't discriminate at BBF, all are welcome. You mention the radio, I can remember as a very young boy in the early 1950s doing the same, my dad listening to those Sunday double headers, he was a Yankee fan. I can still recall when the station would fade out and he would panic, playing with that dial trying to get it back full strength, a losing battle. Especially with Allie Reynolds pitching to Larry Doby with the bases loaded and then the voice fades out.......................Happy days.
keystone thanks them for their welcomes; May 3, 2008, 12:33 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome, catcher 24 and Shoeless Joe. I sure do appreciate your non-discriminatory policies! I guess it really doesn't matter about gender, race or whatever. We all love the game, so that is the unifying factor.... Oh, yeah. Good "D" up the middle -- I'm crazy for it!

Shoeless Joe -- The same thing happened with Doc's old radio. I was too young to remember what team he was trying to pick up -- can't imagine what he got on that old thing clear down here in South Texas. I am thinking it was KMOX, so that is part of the reason I fell for the Cardinals... I've got a real deadball that he used to pitch to me. No telling how long he'd had it, but I can tell you, no one would be able to hit a home run with that thing!

And now I extend a welcome to oldschoolyankee. Anybody "old school" is fine by me.. "Catfish Flounder," indeed!! Your gramps was having some fun with you. What a great memory... I agree with you about Hank Aaron. He is a class act. The only thing good to come from the Bonds debacle is that it brought attention to Hank's achievements.
oldschoolyankee thanks keystone for her warm welcome. 05-03-2008, 02:34 PM
Keystone, I thank you for the warm welcome! And yes, gramps was a very funny guy...kept the family laughing for years. What I'd give to just spend a few moments with him to catch him up on all the baseball debates we could have had. I'm sure he'd try to convince me that Jose Reyes is a better shortstop than Derek Jeter! I miss him dearly...
Bill Burgess welcomes keystone; 05-04-2008, 11:47 AM
Keystone Judy. In my best Cary Grant accent - Judy, Judy, Judy. How's that for a thrill? Great to have a woman with us. We have so few. I suspect that we have more than the 10 that have admitted to it. The web does allow us that protective cloak of anonymity. We're all equally equal in the non-eyes of the web!

great-grandfather's old wooden radio - Doesn't that sound like the title to a movie or song? Great image!

I see that you're a librarian. Love librarians. They have helped me more than I can say in sending me obituaries, etc. Also, thank you for helping the special ed kids. What a wonderful thing to do. Also, we're kindred spirits in our mutual love of 60's rock. Love those tunes beyond reason! 60's Motown will put a smile on my face no matter my mood. We also share liking figuring out what our all-time team would be. Hope to hear more from you, Judy babe!

Just added 2 questions to the questionaire.

Is your Dad your hero?
Is your Mom a saint?

They are both looking better as I get older! :laugh

My dad is a hero to me in a way since he grew up very poor and made himself into a nationally acclaimed printer (before Kinko's and China, we actually printed beautiful books in this country). He's smart and down-to-earth.

My mother did all of the grunt work and all of the child-rearing, and she got little recognition for everything she did at home and in the business, at least until I was old enough to figure it out. She grew up even poorer than my dad, and survived diphtheria, Dengue fever, and the loss of both parents at the age of four. So, yeah. She's earned my undying respect.

We never discuss politics, however. I have little time left with them, so what's the point of disagreeing?

Interesting question. Thanks.

You got it Bill, looks like her mom, welcome again KEYSTONE. Looks very sophisticated..........but I'm betting, she is just one of the girls.

You guys, it's just the gray hair that makes me look like my mother! And, right. I am just so sophisticated... I'm hangin' out with you guys, aren't I? :laugh

I slob around the house in jeans and t-shirts. That photo was taken on my mother's 83rd birthday, so I had to doll up. A couple of gallons of Spackle, and I'm good to go.

Aw, Bill. I can get over the Giants problem you have. Isn't there a 12-step program for that? :D

Catcher24 -- Yes, indeed. I am invisible! I have transcended into the ether and am sending radio broadcasts to XM 175 on Sunday nights.

And well worth the wait! A lovely lady to be sure and a dedicated baseball fan on top of everything else!:clapping

05-02-2008, 10:46 AM
Name: Ken
Date of Birth: 11/22/1962 (born on Thanksgiving Day)
Birthplace: Brooklyn!!! (grew up in Crown Heights)
Current Location: Franklin Twp., NJ
Ethnicity: African-American
Career Path: Banking ('cause Willie Sutton said that's where the money is). As a Vice President-Credit Analyst, I get to help finance many of America's sports franchises including the construction of the Devils' Prudential Center, the purchases of the Redskins and Dodgers, and providing credit for the NBA and NFL.
Favorite Role Models: My late grandparents (rest in peace) who exemplified hard work, teamwork, love of people and community

Favorite Cities: Brooklyn (of course!), Atlanta, Toronto
Cities I Would Love to Visit: Rome, Vancouver

Favorite TV Shows: Honeymooners, I Love Lucy, The Odd Couple
Favorite Actor: James Cagney, Gary Cooper, James Stewart, Henry Fonda
Favorite Actress: Bette Davis
Favorite Movies: 42nd Street, West Side Story
Favorite Playwright: August Wilson
Favorite Books: Coming of Age in Mississippi by Anne Moody, the Macmillan Baseball Encyclopedia
Favorite Music: Anything with a beat!! R&B, Jazz, New Wave, Big Bands, Rap
Favorite Performers: Stevie Wonder, Wes Montgomery, Stephanie Mills, Nat King Cole

How I Got Into Baseball: My grandfather (along with my grandmother) who came to Brooklyn from the South after WWII and was a Brooklyn Dodger fan until they left town. I learned the game literally at his feet as a kid watching the Mets on TV and developing an immediate appreciation of the various National League stars, especially Willie Mays.
Favorite Baseball Team: The Yankees of course!!! (much to my gramps regret, he stayed a Mets fan but I'll always cherish our baseball arguments...he used to always refer to Catfish Hunter as "Catfish Flounder" especially after his slow start after joining the Yanks in 1975)
Other Favorite Teams: Jets, Nets, Devils
Favorite All-Time Yankees: Chris Chambliss, Roy White and Bernie Williams (each represent quiet, hard work, and dignity and shows in their on-field accomplishments)
Other All-Time Favorites: Hank Aaron (the greatest and most underrated player of my lifetime), Jackie Robinson (he liberated baseball for all of us!), Hoss Radborne (his 1884 season is the greatest personal accomplishment in the history of sports), Roberto Clemente (he sacrified his life so others could live), Cal Ripken, Jr. (he proved that 80% of success is just showing up to work every day---the other 20% is talent and performance), Dwight Gooden (he could have really become something if just kept his nose clean)
Least Favorite Players: anyone on the Mitchell list, Ty Cobb (great hitter, horrible person), Cap Anson (he brought Jim Crow to baseball)
keystone welcomes oldschoolyankee; May 3, 2008, 12:33 AM
And now I extend a welcome to oldschoolyankee. Anybody "old school" is fine by me.. "Catfish Flounder," indeed!! Your gramps was having some fun with you. What a great memory... I agree with you about Hank Aaron. He is a class act. The only thing good to come from the Bonds debacle is that it brought attention to Hank's achievements.
oldschoolyankee thanks keystone for her warm welcome. 05-03-2008, 02:34 PM
Keystone, I thank you for the warm welcome! And yes, gramps was a very funny guy...kept the family laughing for years. What I'd give to just spend a few moments with him to catch him up on all the baseball debates we could have had. I'm sure he'd try to convince me that Jose Reyes is a better shortstop than Derek Jeter! I miss him dearly...
Bill Burgess welcomes oldschoolyankee; 05-04-2008, 11:47 AM
Ken - Welcome my brother. Glad you found Fever. So far, in all my days here, you're only the 3rd brother I know that's admitted to being a brother. (Mattingly/Brannu being the others.) But I hope you spend a lot of time with us. I hang out mostly in History Forum. Once started a thread on why so few American blacks are in the MLs,
compared to the past, and no one here can figure out why. Anyway, I hope you have the time of your life here, Kenny. We're both born in Brooklyn, by the way.
oldschoolyankee answers Bill; 05-04-2008, 07:43 PM
Hi Bill, great to meet you!! And yes, the brothers are in the house and representing:cool:!!! Being in the warm friendly confines of California, you're a long, long way from Brooklyn!

I cannot give you a definite reason for our dwindling numbers in MLB, but the competition from other pro sports do not help...especially in being able to offer an 18 to 21 year old an immediate big-money pro contract out of high school (NBA) or after two years of college (NFL). It also doesn't help that the biggest potential role model and drawing card, Barry Bonds, is such an unlikeable person and provides a very easy target for a biased media which maligns most black athletes in EVERY sport (and for that matter people from EVERY walk of life e.g., Barack Obama).

I tend to lurk here more often than write (that's why I have relatively few posts). Some of the opinions here tend to come from out of left field and leave me shaking my head. A thread I started about lamenting the pending demolition of Tiger Stadium took only three posts before it degenerated into race-baiting:

But, I keep coming back because...I LOVE BASEBALL :baseball:!!

05-03-2008, 03:39 PM
names Steve..im a Brit ( oh no a Limey :) )..born in August 65 ( an old Brit )...saw my first game on TV during the 86 series..saw my first game in person at Dodgere Std back in 88 ( while on Dead tour..yes im an old Dead head )..choose the Yankees cause of their storied history ( even though they stunk when i started following them )...i work as a pipe fitter in a shipyard..married for 22 years with 3 kids
catcher24 welcomes YankeeFanUK; May 3, 2008, 06:49 PM
Welcome! The fact that you are British is no problem, and compared to me you're a youngun. But the fact that you're a Yankee fan is a most serious problem!
Bill welcomes YankeeFanUK 05-04-2008, 11:47 AM
Steve: Glad to have you with us, Steve! If you're old, I'm in serious trouble. I like the Dead too. They used to give lots of concerts in my area (SF).

05-05-2008, 11:01 PM
Name: Logan
Date of Birth: 8/3/1989
Birthplace: St. Louis (A fact that will always haunt me).
Current Location: Minneapolis, MN

Favorite Sports Teams: THE CUBS! Football (the real kind)-Liverpool F.C., Football (the American kind)-Da Bears. Also I am a season ticket holder in Golden Gopher football, basketball, and hockey.

Favorite Cubs Players: Ryne Sandberg (childhood idol), Ron Santo, Mark Grace, Derrek Lee, and of course Mr. Cub
Other Favorite Players: Walter Payton, Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres, Tubby Smith

How I got into baseball: I was always into baseball in a way. My parents grew up in big Cubs families, and they passed it onto me. My baby pictures show me in Cubs gear, and I would always watch WGN as a child, listen to my Dad tell about the games he had been to and the 1984 team. I grew up idolizing Sandberg, staring lovingly at my torn Mark Grace baseball card (why I loved it so much I'll never know), cheering on Sosa in 1998, and finally feeling the pain my relatives had experienced in 1984 with the Bartman game.

Favorite TV Shows: The Office, Entourage
Favorite Music: Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Shins, The Beatles, Grateful Dead, Bob Dylan
Favorite Movies: Way to many to mention.
Favorite Author(s): Ernest Hemingway and Jack Kerouac-anything by them is gold.
Other hobbies (besides baseball): I'm a big movie buff, Liverpool F.C. and European football are my second love behind baseball, and I'm just trying to enjoy college as much as I can before I am forced to be a working man.

05-16-2008, 11:15 PM
This is me...
Name - Jay
Location - Bradford, PA, birthplace of Rube Waddell (get it!)
Presently Reside - same place
Work - I'm a supervisor for a contract cleaning company(yawn)

How I came to be a baseball nut - Despite living in Podunk, we had cable TV in the 60's. We got to watch nearly every Pirates, Yankees and Mets game every year. My Dad was a baseball fan so we spent the summer watching as many games as we could. Its my fondest memories of my misspent youth.

Favorite Team - I'm a Red Sox fan (vintage 1975) but I really like all teams (except one, of course.) I follow The Atheltics and the Pirares religiously. I'm also a big minor league fan who tries to get to at least one Buffalo Bison and Rocherset Red Wings game a year.
Favorite Players - too many to mention.

Other interests - I'm a history nut with about 600 Civl War books. I'm also a big "Soccer" fan, supporting Arsenal.

Music interests - ABC (anything but country)
Movie intersets - anything with a plot. Can't deal with movies that have too many explosions
TV - Mystery Science Theater 3000, my all-time favorite. Sopranos too.

I hope Baseball Fever member will see me as... a great listener who has something intelligent to say.

Have to say, I scouted this site for a while and I'm amazed to see any kind of internet forum without trolls. The Admins should be commended!

Welcome, RubeWaddell! :waving We're neighbors. I live in Jamestown, NY, just up I86. Will actually be in Allegheny SP today for a geocaching event! Great to see a local here. I'm sure you'll enjoy the site.

Welcome RUBE. I was kind of a Rube myself, lived in Eden NY in the 1950s when it was real country, population back then around 2200. Now live in Buffalo about 70 miles from Rochester. Of course I see many Buffalo games but also a few games in Rochester. The park in Rochester not on the level of Buffalo but it's a great place to watch a game. It has that feel, your so close to the game. Also attend a couple of games in Toronto and I can tell you ball park food in Buffalo and Rochester put Toronto food to shame and thats at about one quarter the cost.

As a sales rep some years ago, been to Bradford on business with that Zippo Lighter company. If I recall they took over Chase knives also.

This is the board, I've been all over the internet, dozens of boards. I Call this one home. Guys and some girls that really know the game and monitors that keep order, you'll love it here.

05-23-2008, 06:54 AM
Name: David
Date of Birth: 1987
Birthplace: Boston
Current Location: Boston and Nashville for school. I like Boston more.
Favorite Sports Teams: The Red Sox
Favorite Sox Players: Current: Dustin Pedroia Past: Pedro Martinez
How I got into baseball: When I was 7 a baby sitter took me to my first game. My parents were never really into sports, but ever since that first game I was totally hooked.
Favorite TV Shows: Arrested Development, 30 Rock
Favorite Music: Wilco, Paul Simon, A lot more
Favorite Movies: Airplane! Fargo. Annie Hall.
Favorite Author(s): Tom Wolf
Other hobbies (besides baseball): Movies, trying not to fail out of school, traveling, eating and cooking

06-17-2008, 10:16 AM
Name: John
Date of Birth: 14 May 1962
Birthplace: St. Stephen, NB
Current Location: Cold Lake, AB
Career Path: Air Force
Favorite Role Models: My parents (both still alive and huge Jays fans)

Favorite Cities: Montreal, San Diego, London (UK)
Cities I Would Love to Visit: Rome, Athens, Sydney

Favorite TV Shows: Don't watch much TV... probably TWIB :)
Favorite Actor: Tom Hanks, Anthony Hopkins, Paul Newman
Favorite Actress: Jodie Foster, Helen Hunt
Favorite Movies: LOTR Trilogy, Silverado, The Sting, most baseball movies
Favorite Authors: Tolkien, Tom Clancy, Clive Cussler, Wilbur Smith
Favorite Music: Wide ranging: Classical to pop/rock to barbershop harmony
Favorite Performers: The Eagles, Billy Joel, Elton John
How I Got Into Baseball: Came of age in the 70's, like most of my friends in the Maritime Provinces, as a die-hard Bosox fan.
Favorite Baseball Team: Blue Jays
Other Favorite Teams: Cubbies, Bosox, Cards (Yes, I know... how can I cheer for the Cubs AND Cardinals... or the Jays AND the Red Sox... when they play each other, it is Jays and Cubs.)
Favourite Current Players: Roy Halliday, Matt Stairs (fellow New Brunswicker), Alex Rios, Jacoby Ellesbury, Dustin Pedroia, Albert Pujols, Matt Holliday.
Other All-Time Favorites: Yaz, Ryno, Pudge Fisk, Joe Carter, Paul Molitor, John Olerud, Cal Jr., Griffey Jr.
Players I Would Have Loved To See Play: Willie Mays, Satchel Paige, Josh Gibson, Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio, the Bambino, Hank Greenburg, Hank Aaron, Lou Gehrig

06-19-2008, 09:08 AM
Name: Jason
Date of Birth: 02/22/1983
Birthplace: Garden City, Michigan
Current Location: Westland, MI
Ethnicity: White
Career Path: Multimedia Specialist for Detroit Diesel a Daimler Chrysler Company.

Favorite Cities: Canton, MI - Westland, MI - Toronto Ontario - Orlando, FL

How I Got Into Baseball: I went to a game with a group of friends during Summer camp. We went to Tiger Stadium and watched the Tigers DESTROY the Baltimore Orioles 17 - 2. I caught a Cecil Fielder Home Run and got it signed by him a couple weeks later. I've been hooked since.

Did I Play?: I played for my Junior High team in their last season ever, we got to the State Semi-Finals but lost by 2 runs. I tried out for my High School team but my grades floundered due to personal reasons, thus I wasn't able to play for them.

Favorite Baseball Team: Detroit Tigers
Other Favorite Teams: Boston Red Sox, New England Patriots, Oakland Raiders, Detroit Red Wings, Detroit Pistons
Favorite All-Time Tigers: Ty Cobb, Al Kaline, Alan Trammell, Magglio Ordonez, Ryan Raburn, Placido Polanco, Willie Horton, Miguel Cabrera
Other All-Time Favorites: Manny Ramierez, Hank Aaron, Willie Mayes Hayes
Least Favorite Players: Coco Crisp, Alex Rodriguez, Andrew Miller, Babe Ruth

06-23-2008, 09:12 PM
Name: Judson

Age: 26

Height/Weight: 6'1" 160 lbs

Birthplace: Dallas, TX

Favorite Team: Houston Astros

Favorite Players: Craig Biggio, Jeff Bagwell, pretty much all the Astros, but those two are my faves, Gary Carter, Benito Santiago, Will Clark, Don Mattingly, Keith Hernandez, Mark Grace, Mark Lemke, Ryne Sandberg, George Brett, Howard Johnson, Ozzie Smith, Omar Vizquel, Rickey Henderson, Andy Van Slyke, Kirby Puckett, Andre Dawson, Steve Finley, Luis Gonzalez, Greg Maddux, Dwight Gooden, Dave Stewart, Orel Hershiser, and Nolan Ryan.

Favorite players I never saw: Ty Cobb, Willie Mays, Ted Williams, Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Tris Speaker, Reggie Jackson, and Stan Musial

Favorite Movie: Casablanca

Favorite Baseball Movie: Field of Dreams

Favorite Actor: Sean Connery

Favorite Band: Queen

Favorite Song: Bohemian Rhapsody

A little about me: I only lived in Houston for three years. But they were my formative years as a sports fan, which is why I became an Astros fan and a Rockets fan. I might have become an Oilers fan, but I wasn't interested in football at that stage in my life. When I finally became interested in football, I became a Cowboys fan, because all my friends were. I decided to cut ties with them recently because their recent signings of people with no character disgusted me, and now cheer for the Houston Texans. But baseball has always been my favorite sport, and I care more about the Astros than any other team.
I have a degree in English with a minor in History, but decided I wanted to study something a little more math intensive. I took some prerequisites, and will begin a Master's program in Economics at Clemson University in the fall.
I love '80s music. I have a collection of around 200 '80s songs, and enjoy playing the '80s music video drinking game with friends. I enjoy classic movies, and have a small collection of classics, but I am not a snob, as I also enjoy cheesy entertainment like Rocky IV and Kickboxer. I am a huge fan of cartoons and comics. I have two volumes of the Looney Tunes Golden Collection, and the only reason I don't have the rest is that I can't afford it. I have every Calvin and Hobbes book I have been able to get my hands on, a number of The Far Side books, and several Dilbert books. I like watching Family Guy, South Park, The Simpsons, and Venture Bros.
Politically, I lean to the left, which probably explains why I love The Daily Show and The Colbert Report so much. I can't stop quoting these shows to friends and family. I would finally wrap up the television by saying I enjoy House, Psych, Monk, and Burn Notice, and among half-hour shows, Two and a Half Men and The Big Bang Theory. This may seem like a lot of TV, but the truth is, I only end up watching an hour or two during the day, and then a little at night until I get sleepy. While I enjoy all these shows, I don't have time to catch every episode. Okay, I do, but I don't want to spend that much time in front of the TV.
Religiously: I am an atheist. I believe we are all agnostics, as none of us knows whether there is a divine creator or not, and deep down, we admit it, though publicly we may say otherwise. But if theists can make a choice about their belief in a god, and say they believe he or she does exist, then I shouldn't feel strange about making a choice and saying that I think there is not a god. I find the idea of a god illogical, improbable, and unnecessary. But I am not trying to convert anyone, and I would expect the same in return. One of my best friends studies theology and plans to become a minister.
I am going to edit my posts in the Members' Official Opinions thread, as I have some new thoughts that come from the gut, rather than some system. Once I do that, I will provide the link to the post in this one here. Until then, I am


Official Opinions (so far) (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=942344)

Hello there, Judson! You will see a Cardinals logo as my atavar, but you will also notice where I live. So, I am a big Astros fan as well. It's great to have another 'stros fan on the board. :dance

Calvin & Hobbes: YES! Far Side: YES! Absolutely some of the best cartoon writing ever. I love the "funnies," and read them religiously every morning.

Good luck at Clemson. You are waaay out of my league, studying Economics! :eeek:

Name: Judson

Favorite Band: Queen

Favorite Song: Bohemian Rhapsody

Excellent choices. Queen is my second favorite band while Bo-Rap is my favorite song of all-time.

07-09-2008, 03:29 AM
i borrowed some questions from other posts

Name: Hector L.

Age: 21

Residing in: for the last 5 years ive been living in sacramento ca, but spent the first 16 years of my life living in the san francisco area-daly city

Occupation: rapper, music producer

Musical interest: rap, and some rock, old school funk

Favorite album: mac dre-"ronald dregan: dreganomics"

Favorite musical artist: mac dre, nas, mob figgaz, andre nickatina, lupe fiasco, suga free, jay-z, rage against the machine, nirvana, and way too many others to name

Favorite players: will clark, robby thomson, matt williams, jt snow, barry bonds, tim lincecum, alex hinshaw, randy winn, dimitre young, tim wakefield, manny ramirez, prince fielder,

How i came about loving bb: i been a giants fan since birth, but after i moved to sacramento i didnt have too many things to do at first and watched alot of tv, i started watchin all televised sports and just started getting really into baseball, watching other teams and players, now i love everything baseball

Education: g.e.d.

Nationality: 100% mexican

Work History: uhhh...no comment

Favorite movies: the message, carlitos way, half baked, office space, fear and loathing in las vegas, clerks, mallrats, jay and silent bob strike back, the shinning, robocop, the original ninja turtles, predator, super troopers, a scanner darkly, trainspotting, and a bunch of others...

Favorite cd's: "ronald dregan: dreganomics", "dre day july 5th 1970", "illmatic" "food and liquor","the cool" "nirvava unplugged" "battle of LA", "rage against the machine self titled"

Favorite Rap Geniuses: nas

Favorite Rap Voices: mac dre

Favorite producer: traxxamillion

Music I Don't Care For: most rap and all R&B music they play on the radio,

Favorite Basketball Players: peja stojakovic, baron davis, quincy douby, ronnie price, francisco garcia

Favorite Movie Directors: brian de palma

Favorite Actors: jason lee,

Favorite Actresses: jessica alba

Favorite Books: the holy qu'ran

Those I Admire Most: god, my parents

Technically Best-Made Movies: fear and loathing in las vegas

Favorite Cool Stuff: women, blunts, and baseball cards

Hobbies: makin rap music, smoking blunts, drinking, poppin thizzles(extasy), baseball cards, reading, partying, and last but definitely not least picking up women

Favorite Foods: pizza, cheeseburgers, steak,

Favorite Tunes: since 84, hurt me soul, the man who sold the world, the message, wyld night, doogie wit it, how to knock a b*itch,

Favorite TV Shows: the simpsons, family guy, nova, around the horn, pti, and all those educational shows that are on discovery channel, history channel, and national geographic channel that are about space, animals, earth, past events, etc...

Favorite Comedians: chris rock, george carlin, pablo francisco, george lopez

Least Favorite Comedy Stuff: those "comedians" that are on such shows as i love the 80s 90s, new millenium, their jokes are never funny, especially that michael ian black, he tries to say all these things that supposed to be sarcastic or somthin, i cant stand that type of "comedy"

Favorite TV Characters: homer simpson, michael from the office,

I hope Fever members see me as . . .:a newbie baseball fanatic with open ears and an open mind, always ready to learn somthing new

Pet Peeves: the giants losing, nosies when im tryin to sleep, rediculously hot days, being broke,

Brief Notes on Dad: a really great guy, worked 2 jobs for years to support us, never broken any real laws, supports me in everything, a real loving husband and father

Brief Notes on Mom: my best friend, also worked 2 jobs for years to support the family, i can tell her anything, shes there for me no matter what, gets my type of humor, a real loving wife and mother

Photos of me.

"lets mix this with some hennessy"

"whatchu sippin on nephew?"

left to right
me, my three cousins, my sister, my grandma, my aunt, my uncle, and my mom and dad on the far right
we all lived together in SF before my mom, dad, me, and my sister moved to sacramento....

hope this gives you guys a better feel of who your talkin to...

07-30-2008, 12:14 PM
Name: Nick
Date of Birth: June 10 93
Birthplace: Louisville, KY
Current Location: Across the River from Louisville
Career Path: Hope to play baseball if not something to deal with it.
Favorite Role Models: Players that come from small towns like mine, Alex Rodriguez

Favorite Cities: Louisville, New York, Cincy
Cities I Would Love to Visit: Chicago, Venice

Favorite TV Shows: TWIB, Big Brother, MLB Baseball Games

Favorite Actor: Adam Sandler, Denzel Washington, Sylvester Stallone

Favorite Actress: Jessica Alba

Favorite Movies: Field of Dreams, American Gangster, Most Vietnam Movies

Favorite Authors: The dude who wrote "Heat"

Favorite Music: punk rock, country, anything

Favorite Performers: Green Day
How I Got Into Baseball: My dad when I was around 4 or 5.

Favorite Baseball Team: New York Yankees
Other Favorite Teams: Reds

Favourite Current Players: Alex Rodriguez, Joey Votto, Andy Pettitte, Joba Chamberlain

Other All-Time Favorites: Babe, Yogi, Thurman Munson, Terry Steinbach, Tino Martinez, Mickey Mantle

Players I Would Have Loved To See Play: All in the last post

09-01-2008, 01:42 AM
Billy!! Imagine my delight upon finding you here. I was sitting out here in the gorgeous Rockies, waxing a bit nostalgic and my mind wandered to Trude Heller's, you, Carol Lou, Frankie Paris & Co., Tracy Robbins -- and OMG MORGAN! (I dated his sax player, briefly) but then started dating Frankie's drummer, Bobby.

This is Jane, who was the girl from Wyoming who used to work at Trude's when you and Carol Lou were the dancers (how you two stayed on that wall was always a source of amazement to me!), Donald was the doorman, Jeff -- remember Jeff?!! singing Heartbreak Hotel and Blue Suede Shoes? Verna who was my roommate and one of the cocktail waitresses, and Rene from Montana who would dance with you on the wall occassionally? Oh and Pheobe who would sing a Roberta Flack number or two with Frankie....and Eileen, stunning Eileen behind the bar -- and Clinton, who used to paint his head so no one would know he was bald?

Remember breakfasts at David's Potbelly -- and lots of laughs and mischief. You and Carol Lou were such talents and I looked up to you both. What a motley yet fablulous crew we all were. 72 was a great year! I've thought of you often and, it's so nice to know you are still on the planet and doing what you love. Was in NYC a few years back, and Trude's had become a pizza parlor. It felt strange to see that.

Me? I grew up (I was only 16 when I was working at Trude's -- lied about my age so I could get the job), and am an artist and a weaver -- among other things, am very happily married and live back out in the Rockies.

Love to you, you handsome devil -- am so glad you posted the photos, I'm sure you are just as gorgeous as ever.

Oh ==== baseball, Rockies, Denver, and Go CRs!! (just so that I'm remotely on topic here. *grin*


Good Lord! You've found me! In my latest incarnation as a baseball fan. My first, great, original love/passion. Baseball.

I've occasionally referred back to my days as a rock dance, super-freak, but I doubt if anyone who never saw the Trude Heller Dancers could even remotely imagine how we did it. We really rocked the house, didn't we?

And yes, I remember all those you mention. I have actually done online searches for some of them, to no avail. Rene Bostic, Claudia Neily, Karl Merrill, Karl Bernabe, etc.

I just sent you a PM, and we'll catch up privately. OK?

How big of a baseball fan are you, Jane? Do you do old-time baseball history? Or just follow the Rockies?


OK -- I confess, I *did* have a HUGE crush on Billy back then, but so did my friend Rene, so he was off limits . . much to my disappointment. :dance

10-14-2008, 03:30 PM
Domenic L.

Born: June 5 in Brooklyn, NY.

I Presently reside: Buffalo, NY

Education: M.A. in History and Political Science, 2008 - Working on J.D.

Nationality: Italian, Armenian

I came by my BB passion from: Family members and passion for American history.

Work History: Front Office experience with New York Yankees and Cleveland Indians

Favorite Baseball Team: New York Yankees

Favorite ballplayers: Tim Lincecum, Joba Chamberlain, Chad Billingsley, Alex Rodriguez, Grady Sizemore

Favorite movies: The Trial, All Quiet on the Western Front, Empire of the Sun, Blade Runner, Rescue Dawn

Greatest Athletes of 20th Century: Babe Ruth

Favorite Basketball Players: Jason Kidd, Mike Bibby, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson

Favorite Football Players: Tom Brady, Eli Manning, Tedy Bruschi, Matt Ryan

Favorite Hockey Players: Paul Kariya, Brian Campbell, Roberto Luongo

Favorite Movie Directors: Werner Herzog, Paul Thomas Anderson, Darren Aronofsky

Favorite Actors: James Stewart, Christian Bale, Leonardo DiCaprio, Daniel Day-Lewis

Favorite Actresses: Kate Winslet

Favorite Books: The Trial, Animal Farm, 1984, All Quiet on the Western Front, Post Office

Favorite Bands: The Clash, Silverstein, Jack's Mannequin, Iron and Wine, The White Stripes

My Most Admired Americans: Robert F. Kennedy, Joseph Biden, Michael Phelps

Technically Best-Made Movies: Citizen Kane, All Quiet on the Western Front, 2001: A Space Odyssey

Hobbies: Playing baseball, playing guitar

Favorite TV Shows: It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Boston Legal, How I Met Your Mother, Law & Order: SVU, Law & Order: Criminal Intent

My Favorite Classic Baseball Movies: Pride of the Yankees

I hope Fever members see me as . . .: Intelligent, thoughtful, and helpful

Domenic's Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/domenic.anthony)

Hiya, Domenic! Very nice post. I'm guessing your favorite team is the Yankees? Are you into music at all?

Citizen Kane, Tim Lincecum, Grady Sizemore, Joe Biden, Boston Legal, passion for American history :highfive:

Eli Manning :thumbsdown: I should talk, though. Here I live in Dallas Cowboys country! :laugh

10-17-2008, 07:58 AM
Born: 1961, Winnipeg, MB moved to Moose Jaw,SK in 1965.

Favourite ballplayers: Entire 1972-74 A's (I was VERY impressionable and they were my heroes), Jackie Robinson, Andy Messersmith, Steve Rogers, Vida Blue, Tom Seaver, Rollie Fingers, Catfish Hunter, Steve Carlton, Ferguson Jenkins, Walter Johnson, Babe Ruth, Nolan Ryan, Dennis Eckersley, Satchel Paige, Randy Johnson, Rusty Staub, Harmon Killebrew, Tony Gwynn, Hank Aaron and Mark McGwire*.

My little league teams: Mohawks (9-10), Angels (11-12), Orioles (13-15), later coached the Meteors. Umpired little league for many years. Once attended a St. Louis Cardinals evaluation camp (see "Why I Became A Radio Broadcaster").

Why I Became A Radio Broadcaster: Once attended a St. Louis Cardinals evaluation camp.

Favorite MLB teams: Since the Expos were evacuated out of Montreal, I don't really have a favorite. The Yankees are my third favorite team -- everyone else is tied for second.

Biggest baseball disappointments: The Montreal Expos moving to Washington. Mark McGwire*. Pete Rose*, Catfish Hunter and Reggie Jackson signing with the Yankees.

Thing I would like to do before I die: See every major league team play at home at least once.

My occupation: Radio Personality (Beat working for a living).

Vacations I'd like to take: Baseball Hall Of Fame in Cooperstown and the Negro League Museum in Kansas City.

Vacations my wife wants to take: Europe, Caribbean and Alaskan cruise.

Vacations we'll probably take together: 0

Favorite movies: 50 First Dates, Back To The Future (First one). Dirty Harry series, Death Wish series, Rocky series, Rambo series, Star Trek series, Terms of Endearment :confused:(first date with my wife), National Lampoon Vacation series, Field Of Dreams, A League Of Their Own, For Love Of The Game, Bull Durham, 61, The Rookie, Major League series and Roots.

Favorite Song: I Believe In You - Bob Dylan.

Favorite Country Music: Halfway To Hazzard, Trace Adkins, John Michael Montgomery, Mark Collie, Randy Travis, Paul Overstreet, Dwight Yoakam, Conway Twitty, Toby Keith, George Strait, Kellie Pickler, JoDee Messina and almost anything that's new.

Least favorite Country Music: Almost everything older than 1980 with very few exceptions.

Favorite Rock Music: Beatles, Boston, April Wine, Trooper, Beach Boys, Babys, Eagles, Peter Frampton, Wings, Cars.

Favorite Rock Albums (Actual Vinyl): Boston, Frampton Comes Alive, Wings Over America, Dylan's Slow Train, Fleetwood Mac's Rumors.

Music I Don't Care For: Almost anything 80's pop/rock genre(mid to late). Rap.

Favorite Comedy Stuff: Larry The Cable Guy

Favorite Interests (hobbies): Baseball, Country music, 60-70's classic pop/rock music.

Favorite TV Shows: Andy Griffith Show, Get Smart, WKRP in Cincinnati, Cheers, M*A*S*H, Classic baseball games, Cold Case, Life on Mars, Star Trek series'.

Favorite Foods: Anything freshly made, KFC (though it hates me):eek:

Favorite Comfort Junk food from Childhood - Old Dutch "Sour Cream and Onion" Potato Chips, Sponge Toffee, Love Hearts, Big Turk, Smarties (like M&M's only superior) Mars Bar, Crunchie, Hot Tamalies.

Favorite Colognes - Monsieur Musk, RSVP, McGraw and Beckham.

Favorite Books: New American Standard Bible, Boys Of Summer, Joel Whitburn's Billboard music books, Fletch series by Gregory MacDonald, Christine by Stephen King.

Favorite car/truck: 1967 Mercury Pick Up, 2003 Mustang.

Favorite song quote: "It's not what you take when you leave this world behind you, it's what you leave behind you when you go." - Three Wooden Crosses, Randy Travis.

Favorite movie quote: "It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. It's the hard that makes it great" - A League Of Their Own.

Favorite book quote: "Jesus wept" - John 11:35 NAS Bible.

Whom I Admire Most: Jesus Christ for showing a darkened world the light. Jackie Robinson. Martin Luther King Jr.

I like these answers

<Born:[/COLOR] 1961> Well, I'm one year older

<Favourite ballplayers: Entire 1972-74 A's (I was VERY impressionable>

They were my first introduction to (good) baseball.

<Favorite MLB teams: The Yankees are my third favorite team -- everyone else is tied for second.>

YEAH, baby!

<Thing I would like to do before I die: See every major league team play at home at least once.>

I'm working on it

<Vacations I'd like to take: Cooperstown>

I will be doing that in the next ten years

<Favorite Rock Music: Boston

Favorite Rock Albums (Actual Vinyl): Boston, Frampton Comes Alive

Music I Don't Care For: Almost anything 80's pop/rock genre(mid to late). Rap.

Favorite TV Shows: Andy Griffith Show, Get Smart, M*A*S*H, Classic baseball games

Favorite Books: New American Standard Bible, Boys Of Summer

Favorite book quote: "Jesus wept" - John 11:35 NAS Bible.

Whom I Admire Most: Jesus Christ for showing a darkened world the light.>

Good stuff :highfive::thumbsup::cool::waving

Allie Fox
11-21-2008, 02:18 PM
Approved for release by the Banzai Institute for Biomedical Engineering and Strategic Information:

It is believed that Allie Fox was about ten years old when he saw the first Star Wars film in 1977. It is known that he was born and raised on New York's Long Island. He has mentioned a stint in the military, however the branch, length of service and duty assignment remain unkown. Allie is schooled in the liberal arts and it is believed that he holds a degree in medieval literature as he is known to quote Alighieri, Boccaccio and Chaucer. He currently resides in middle Georgia where he holds a top-secret position with the government.
Allie Fox is a card carrying BLUE BLAZE IRREGULAR who is always on the lookout for members of the World Crime League and the occasional escaped Red Lectroid. He is assigned as the head of the sharpshooter squad for Strike Team Peach Pit. He has a quick wit and even quicker pistol draw. Despite his handiness with firearms, he confesses that he does not like guns and prefers to talk his way out of a sticky situation rather than shoot his way out.
In his spare time, Allie likes to study theoretical physics, ride horseback, collect vintage toys and read Calvin and Hobbes and Bloom County.


11-23-2008, 11:12 AM
I'll start with a short list. But I will make it bigger as I look through the thread for more questions.

Name: Steve.
Date of Birth: 6/24/83.
Birthplace: Memphis, Tennessee.
Currently live in: Millington, Tennessee.
Job: Construction worker.
Nationality:White American, 1/16th Cuban.
Favorite Baseball team: St. Louis.
Favorite baseball players: Ken Griffey Jr, Albert Pujols.
Favorite Football team:Tennesse Titans.
Favorite Basketball team:San Antonio Spurs.
Favorite Basketball player: Shane Battier.
Favorite athlete: Fedor Emelianenko
Favorite Music Artist: The Jimi Hendrix Experience.
Favorite Music:Rock.
Favorite Songs:"Little Wing", by the Jimi Hendrix Experience. "Why was I Born?" By John Coltrane and Kenny Berrell.

11-23-2008, 07:32 PM
"Judson Kilpatrick is my favorite Civil War Union Calvary officer."

Ignoring the typo, Phil Sheridan is mine.

Just to keep things accurate, Calvary is the hill on which Jesus was crucified. Mounted units during the Civil War (and others as well) were, I believe, the cavalry. The modern cavalry are armored/mechanized units.

Honest typo. Thanks for keeping me honest, btw. Always good to see you posting. Did I tell you I found Eddie Plank's grave? I cheated and bought a book that showed the exact location, but I found it!

I had planned on visiting a couple Civil War Cavalry battle sites a few days ago (Hunterstown, Fairfield, Hanover, all in PA) but didn't find the time. Must be the reason why.

I do like Sheridan, having visited his hometown of Somerset, Ohio a couple of times. The house he lived in was still there the last time a couple years ago. Even for sale then. Somerset is mere miles from Sherman's birthplace in Lancaster (OH). Not to be confused with the Lancaster (PA) home of John Reynolds.

Imapotato, Bill?

Captain - Thanks for the kind reply. I haven't really posted much of anything in quite some time except for Leecemark's Classic Keeper League. I do keep an eye on certain threads, though, this naturally being one of them. I rather figured it was a typo, since with your interests and intellect you most assuredly know how cavalry is spelled.

No, I didn't know that you found Eddie's grave. Sometimes it just makes sense to take the easiest route, and that's not cheating - just good planning!:laugh I haven't made it to Gettysburg since our correspondence on that subject. I did find the grave of Hugh Bedient, outstanding Red Sox rookie of 1912. I always knew he was from Falconer, which is adjacent to where I live, so I found out which cemetery he was buried in and found it. Also took a picture to post at Baseball Almanac.

I see you've been as active as ever. It was very nice to correspond with you again.
I don't have a digital camera yet, although lack of resources (35MM film is vanishing. Let's not talk about black and white film) is moving me in that direction very quickly. Without a proper scanner, I'm afraid my photos of Eddie Plank's grave, baseballs left and all, will defer to other photos here.

Ray Brown just received a new memorial a few miles from me in Dayton. I'd like to see that. Hal Newhouser's grave is a couple miles down the road fro my parents in Michigan. Someday I'll check it out. One of the frequent posters in the HOF and History forums, Paul Wendt, does that sort of thing a lot, GPS in tow.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Having his coordinates would be most helpful. I've seen several of Paul's posts in the BBFHOF forum. I quit voting there myself quite some time ago, but have kept an eye on it. He might make a good resource when I go looking for a grave. I do hope to get up to Buffalo next summer and find Jimmy Collins grave in Holy Cross Cemetery. I've intended to do that for quite some time, just haven't gotten around to it.

Are you familiar with Baseball Almanac? They have the burial sites of many ballplayers, and several have photos (my photo of Hugh Bedient's grave stone is there). If you aren't, this link (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/index.shtml) takes you to their home page. Then use the Player menu to go to Grave Sites.

"As a civil war enthusiast, the name Judson stands out to me. That's all."

I will say General Kilpatrick was certainly very flamboyant and colorful; sort of the Union's equivalent to the massively-overrated JEB Stuart, though I would say that Kilpatrick's innovative tactics and refusal to back down, even if they did earn him the nickname "Kill-Cavalry," probably gave him an edge over Stuart. The CSA didn't really have an equivalent in Sheridan; the closest you could get would be Nathan Bedford Forrest (a tactical genius, but also a brutish thug, the latter of which Sheridan hardly was), but Forrest was more of a mounted infantryman (in the vein of the Boer Kommandos or Australian Light Horse) than a true cavalryman. I despise Forrest, though do respect him as an innovative combat thinker. As for Kilpatrick vs. Sheridan, I would say that Sheridan was a far less colorful, far more calculating individual who wasn't scared to take losses (unlike, say, George B. McClellan, a master organizer who was afraid to risk his troops), but also tried to preserve as best he could the men under his command (which Kilpatrick did not).




Speak for yourself.

Forrest is revered in some circles. He's arguably the most revered Confederate figure after the big four.

You know, Dalk, for all of the great figures to come out of Ohio during the Civil War (Grant, Sherman, Sheridan, McPherson, the McCooks) the one figure who gets recognized the most here through markers, festivals and what not is John Hunt Morgan. Yet the spot where he was captured is blink-and-you'll-miss-it.

Several of the towns that stage something in honor of Morgan's raid have old fashined baseball as part of the festivities. Ha. Brought it back!

"the one figure who gets recognized the most here through markers, festivals and what not is John Hunt Morgan."

That's interesting. I'd not have expected that. I *did* know that Morgan was celebrated in his birthplace of Huntsville, AL, but not OH. The one bit of trivia that gets me about Morgan, aside from his being A.P. Hill's brother-in-law, is the staggering amount of people that seem to think his raids started as a result of the Partisan Ranger Act (think Mosby, McNeill, Quantrill, and at least the authorization of guys like Shelby and Mobberley). They didn't. John Hunt Morgan was regular CS Army and planned his 1863 Raid on his own time, starting well before the PRA was even passed. No one is exactly sure how much Morgan's Raid contributed to the recruitment effort for raiders that followed the PRA, although the concensus seems to be that it made it go up exponentially. I guess that's why people seem to incorrectly associate Morgan with it.

Well, that's embarrassing. I guess I need to get out more!:blush::laugh

RMB, thanks so much for those other links.I knew about Findagrave, and in fact that's how I actually located Hugh Bedient's grave. The others are new to me and should prove useful in the future.

Both Indiana and Kentucky have Morgan's Raid Drives one could take to follow his path. Ohio's is well on its way, and there are several historical markers throughout the state in each town he passed through, including one at the site of the former Camp Chase in Columbus, where Morgan was held after he was captured. Even Georgetown, where Grant lived for his entire childhood, has Morgan as a considerable part of their U.S. Grant Days. Morgan went through the town and allegedly shook his fist in the direction of Ripley, a few miles South and the town that inspired the name Underground Railroad.

But we're probaly boring thsoe who aren't into the Civil War. Tyrus4189, I just watched Ken Burn's Baseball over the last couple weeks. As informatie as the series was, he would have better served the sport and its history if he actually alloted the time spent discussing Mario Cuomo toward players like Wagner, Johnson, Musial, Spahn, etc.

When I was a kid, I went through a phase where I obsessed on reading about the Civil War.

One of the things I remember is the glamour/romance attached to the Confederate horse leaders - Jeb Stuart, Major Mosby, John H. Morgan, Bedford Forrest.

Wasn't it Forrest, who, when asked how to win a fight, said, "You get there the fastest with the mostest"?

I also liked to read tons on Lee, Jackson, Jubal Early, etc. I read the 3 book set by Bruce Catton (who is also a Ty Cobb supporter, btw), and have always felt that 'The American Il