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west coast orange and black
06-22-2007, 01:01 AM
hey, h-g, how do you wind down after a night game? i mean, when you're on the road, really wound up?

ChrisLDuncan
06-22-2007, 09:35 PM
How do you feel about hecklers?

hiddengem
06-22-2007, 11:34 PM
hey, h-g, how do you wind down after a night game? i mean, when you're on the road, really wound up?


Drink until I pass out and fall asleep;) Just kidding, I might have a beer or 2 but I'm usually beat after a game and don't have much of a problem going to sleep.

hiddengem
06-22-2007, 11:44 PM
How do you feel about hecklers?

I think they are complete morons and need to get a life. I'm good friends with a guy where a heckler was all over him the whole game. Just brutal and completely out of line. At the end of the game the heckler threw a ball at the player, ended up being a soft ball, but after he did that the whole team jumped into the stands and beat the guy.

I'm that player that will jaw right back at them. I love making them feel like complete idiots.

Zito75
06-23-2007, 09:30 AM
I think they are complete morons and need to get a life. I'm good friends with a guy where a heckler was all over him the whole game. Just brutal and completely out of line. At the end of the game the heckler threw a ball at the player, ended up being a soft ball, but after he did that the whole team jumped into the stands and beat the guy.

I'm that player that will jaw right back at them. I love making them feel like complete idiots.

Ha ha, sounds like a typical $1 beer night in Tucson... Nice.

hiddengem
06-23-2007, 04:22 PM
Ha ha, sounds like a typical $1 beer night in Tucson... Nice.

I remember a night in Tucson Last year. Some fan got the old "pee ball" trick. Fell right in the trap, classic.

Honus Wagner Rules
06-23-2007, 05:42 PM
hiddengem,

Can you describe in detail what you are thinking and doing when you are at the plate. What things do you look for when facing the pitcher? I'm sure you start watching the pitcher from the dugout and the on deck cicle. Do you usually think fastball then adjust?

hiddengem
06-23-2007, 10:23 PM
hiddengem,

Can you describe in detail what you are thinking and doing when you are at the plate. What things do you look for when facing the pitcher? I'm sure you start watching the pitcher from the dugout and the on deck cicle. Do you usually think fastball then adjust?

I try not to think too much. I usually go up there looking for a fastball and adjust off of that, but occasionally I'll go up and sit on a pitch. I watch him from the dugout and look for the pitches he is commanding and the pitches he isn't. Aside from that I'm just looking to put the good part of the bat on the ball and hit it hard somewhere.

Williamsburg2599
06-23-2007, 10:44 PM
HG,
What's the weirdest pregame ritual you've seen a teammate have?

StanTheMan
06-24-2007, 10:43 AM
I watch him from the dugout and look for the pitches he is commanding and the pitches he isn't. Aside from that I'm just looking to put the good part of the bat on the ball and hit it hard somewhere.

I find this interesting.... It has got to be tough to see if he's hitting his spots on the inside corner and the outside corner, while you're sitting in the dugout. There are probably 1,000 seats in a minor league park which would be more conducive to looking for pitches his is commanding, and pitches he isn't... rahter than looking from the dugout.

Do you rely on feedback from teammates, or can you just tell from the dugout he is hitting his spots? i.e. players taking pitches on say the outside half that are called strikes, especially for called third strikes... is that good enough?

Zito75
06-24-2007, 08:20 PM
I remember a night in Tucson Last year. Some fan got the old "pee ball" trick. Fell right in the trap, classic.

I'm afraid to ask... Could you perhaps share that gag with us?

hiddengem
06-24-2007, 10:06 PM
I find this interesting.... It has got to be tough to see if he's hitting his spots on the inside corner and the outside corner, while you're sitting in the dugout. There are probably 1,000 seats in a minor league park which would be more conducive to looking for pitches his is commanding, and pitches he isn't... rahter than looking from the dugout.

Do you rely on feedback from teammates, or can you just tell from the dugout he is hitting his spots? i.e. players taking pitches on say the outside half that are called strikes, especially for called third strikes... is that good enough?


Its not tough at all. You watch where the catcher is set up and see how he catches the ball. Is he getting his breaking ball over for called strikes, or are they constantly going for balls. When he falls behind, what pitch does he go to? Alot of times a pitcher isn't feeling his fastball, and when he needs a strike he goes to a slider.

When he gets to 2 strikes what does he go to? What is his out pitch? Does he have one? Does he fall into a pattern? Is he following a high fastball with a breaking ball, trying to freeze you?

How is trying to get similar hitters to you, out? Is he showing you an inside fastball and getting you out away? Or showing you a fastball away, getting you to look out there, and then busting you in? Will he throw a first pitch slider? Does he do it often or only once every 5 or 6 hitters?

The things you rely on your teamates for are the movement on his pitches. Is his fastball straight, does it cut, does it sink? How is his slider? Sharp? Flat? Does it have depth to it?

Those are the things I look for.

hiddengem
06-24-2007, 10:08 PM
I'm afraid to ask... Could you perhaps share that gag with us?


I think you can figure it out.

hiddengem
06-24-2007, 10:10 PM
HG,
What's the weirdest pregame ritual you've seen a teammate have?

I haven't seen very many wierd things. Wade boggs used to eat fried chicken everyday. Alot of guys will take their first step out of the dugout to warm up at a certain time everyday. When I played with Biggio, if he was in the lineup, he would have 3 bats, the ones he was going to use for the day, tarred up and lying on the floor in front of his locker. They would stay there until he took them out to the game.

Old Sweater
06-24-2007, 11:16 PM
Edit/ Never mind. Looked it up instead.

Honus Wagner Rules
06-25-2007, 12:14 AM
hiddengem,

In your opinion what makes Albert Pujols such a great hitter?

ChrisLDuncan
06-25-2007, 12:56 AM
What pitcher out of these guys would you least like to face, or most like to face if you like challenges:

Jake Peavy
Dan Haren
Johan Santana
Cole Hamels

hiddengem
06-25-2007, 07:03 PM
hiddengem,

In your opinion what makes Albert Pujols such a great hitter?

Extremely strong and powerful. Outstanding hand eye cordination, fast reflexes, great mental approach and a pretty nice swing. Hows that?

hiddengem
06-25-2007, 07:07 PM
What pitcher out of these guys would you least like to face, or most like to face if you like challenges:

Jake Peavy
Dan Haren
Johan Santana
Cole Hamels

I've been successful against Santana but his stuff speaks for itself. I would imagine Peavy would be pretty dang tough. He's got an outstanding slider and a power sinker to go with it. Hamels Chaneup is just about untouchable when he is spotting his fastball.

I mean choose your poison, they are all good and would be a great challenge.

ChrisLDuncan
06-25-2007, 11:28 PM
How do you feel about bean ball?

Honus Wagner Rules
06-26-2007, 11:09 AM
Extremely strong and powerful. Outstanding hand eye cordination, fast reflexes, great mental approach and a pretty nice swing. Hows that?
Sure, if you say so. You're the professional ballplayer and I am not. :)

hiddengem
06-26-2007, 11:28 AM
How do you feel about bean ball?

There is a time and place for it.

Lucifer
06-26-2007, 11:52 AM
Professional ball player^? what?

Honus Wagner Rules
06-26-2007, 12:42 PM
Professional ball player^? what?

Are you referring to my comments? :confused:

Lucifer
06-26-2007, 12:47 PM
Kind of

Hiddengem is a professional ball player?

Honus Wagner Rules
06-26-2007, 12:52 PM
Kind of

Hiddengem is a professional ball player?

You didn't know that?

Lucifer
06-26-2007, 12:53 PM
No. This is only like the 2nd time ive seen his name So, that's a yes? What's his name and what team is he on

StanTheMan
06-26-2007, 12:56 PM
Lucifer.... Check Your Private Messages.... got to keep this on the "down low."

flash143817
06-27-2007, 05:02 AM
I think you can figure it out.

I've got the general idea, although I'm struggling with the specifics.


That reminds me...

What's the best/most creative practical joke you've seen pulled on someone? I'm talking like hot foot, pie-in-the-face, etc. You got any good ones that fans aren't as aware of?

hiddengem
06-27-2007, 12:38 PM
I've got the general idea, although I'm struggling with the specifics.


That reminds me...

What's the best/most creative practical joke you've seen pulled on someone? I'm talking like hot foot, pie-in-the-face, etc. You got any good ones that fans aren't as aware of?


The "Incredible lift" is pretty funny. You get a rookie or kid that is new to the higher levels and tell him you want him to be a part of this record breaking lift. This kid will lay on the floor inbetween two other guys and they lock arms with eachother. One of your big teamates says he can lift all three of them up as long as they are in a good position with their arms locked.

Meanwhile, there is a 5 gallon bucket filled with anything and everything you could possible imagine. I mean we're talking the most disgusting things you can find, things that smell absolutely awful and mix it all together. Rotten Fish, pigs feet, mustard, ect ect..you get the idea.

So the guy doing the lift really plays it up good..puts a bandana on, starts yelling pumping himself up and all that. As he gets over the 3 guys, ready to lift them up, he yells something and its a cue for the 2 guys on the end to roll away and some other guys with the bucket move in and dump it all over the guy in the middle.

Pretty funny, and a huge mess to cleanup.

ChrisLDuncan
06-27-2007, 12:52 PM
Who was the best player you have ever seen, in the bigs or minors, and what was his quirkiest habbit?

Captain Cold Nose
06-27-2007, 01:07 PM
The "Incredible lift" is pretty funny. You get a rookie or kid that is new to the higher levels and tell him you want him to be a part of this record breaking lift. This kid will lay on the floor inbetween two other guys and they lock arms with eachother. One of your big teamates says he can lift all three of them up as long as they are in a good position with their arms locked.

Meanwhile, there is a 5 gallon bucket filled with anything and everything you could possible imagine. I mean we're talking the most disgusting things you can find, things that smell absolutely awful and mix it all together. Rotten Fish, pigs feet, mustard, ect ect..you get the idea.

So the guy doing the lift really plays it up good..puts a bandana on, starts yelling pumping himself up and all that. As he gets over the 3 guys, ready to lift them up, he yells something and its a cue for the 2 guys on the end to roll away and some other guys with the bucket move in and dump it all over the guy in the middle.

Pretty funny, and a huge mess to cleanup.

According to Jay Johnstone, they were able to pull that on Mickey Hatcher twice, each during a different stint with the team.

hiddengem
06-27-2007, 03:10 PM
According to Jay Johnstone, they were able to pull that on Mickey Hatcher twice, each during a different stint with the team.


I wouldn't doubt that. There are "variations" of the prank.

ChrisLDuncan
07-01-2007, 01:08 AM
HG, what is the gap for a player between A ball, AA ball, AAA ball, big leagues and rookie ball? And why are some players able to jump right from AA or A ball to the Majors and have less success than those who spent time in AAA?

hiddengem
07-01-2007, 06:29 PM
HG, what is the gap for a player between A ball, AA ball, AAA ball, big leagues and rookie ball? And why are some players able to jump right from AA or A ball to the Majors and have less success than those who spent time in AAA?

For Pitchers, the ones that can command the zone with multiple pitches as a starter will continue to move up. If you have good velocity to go with that command then you'll move up even quicker.

For hitter, if you can show good plate discipline, obvioulsy hit for an average show some power, you'll move up. If not you won't. If you are a fielder that plays a main position (catcher, SS, CF) and show a good glove and arm you'll get a chance at the higher levels, if you continue to show that the speed of the game doesn't overmatch your skills you'll continue further.

At the AAA level its often times being in the right place at the right time and getting your opportunity. Most guys at the AAA level could go to the big leagues and have some sort of sucess, but often times you'll get labled as a AAA guy, fringe big league (probably the boat I'm in) and it makes it tough, regardless of what you do.

Organizations lable guys in their system as "prospects" or organizational guys. The prospects will get pushed and eventually get an opportunity unless they get to the higher levels and peak out.

Honus Wagner Rules
07-01-2007, 07:03 PM
For Pitchers, the ones that can command the zone with multiple pitches as a starter will continue to move up. If you have good velocity to go with that command then you'll move up even quicker.

For hitter, if you can show good plate discipline, obvioulsy hit for an average show some power, you'll move up. If not you won't. If you are a fielder that plays a main position (catcher, SS, CF) and show a good glove and arm you'll get a chance at the higher levels, if you continue to show that the speed of the game doesn't overmatch your skills you'll continue further.

At the AAA level its often times being in the right place at the right time and getting your opportunity. Most guys at the AAA level could go to the big leagues and have some sort of sucess, but often times you'll get labled as a AAA guy, fringe big league (probably the boat I'm in) and it makes it tough, regardless of what you do.

Organizations lable guys in their system as "prospects" or organizational guys. The prospects will get pushed and eventually get an opportunity unless they get to the higher levels and peak out.

I asked you before and you said you would consider going to Japan if the money was right. Have you ever actually looked into going over there? I think a player like yourself would do very well over. Who knows you could be the next Bobby Rose! Rose was another second basemen that couldn't break into the majors so he over to Japan had an All-Star career.

here's a short bio on Rose:


Robert Rose (baseball)

Robert Richard Rose (Bobby Rose, born March 15, 1967) is a former major league baseball player from Covina, California. He played on the California Angels in the major leagues, and on the Yokohama BayStars in the Japanese Central League.


Biography
Rose signed with the California Angels in 1985, and made his major league debut in 1989. He only played 73 games in the majors, and signed with the Yokohama BayStars after he was involved in a car accident in 1992.

He led the Central League in RBIs and doubles in his first year (1993), and played in all 130 regular season games from 1993 - 1995. Rose continued his success, showing incredible clutch hitting skills, and greatly contributed to his team's championship in 1998. He won the Central League golden glove award in 1998 at second base, and played his best season in 1999, hitting 37 home runs with 153 RBIs and a .369 batting average. This remains the highest batting average in Japanese baseball among right handed hitters, and his 153 RBIs ranks second-most in Japanese baseball history. He also led the league with 192 hits, which was the Central League season record until Norichika Aoki renewed it in 2005. He led the league in hits for the second straight season in 2000, and had the second highest batting average in the Central League, but suddenly announced his retirement in the off-season. The main reason for this abrupt departure seems to be that his family wanted to return to the United States, and the BayStars also lacked the financial backing needed to renew his massive contract.

Rose signed with the Chiba Lotte Marines during the 2002 off-season, returning to Japan after two years of inactivity. However, he went hitless during spring training, and announced his second retirement in March, 2003, before the start of the regular season.

Despite the fiasco at the end of his career, he is still remembered as one of the best foreign players in Japanese baseball. He was 71 at-bats shy from passing Leron Lee in career batting average (at least 4000 at-bats are required to qualify for the record), and hit over .300 for seven of his eight seasons in Japan. He also hit three cycles during his career (the most in Japanese baseball history).



Rose's Japanese stats:


Year Team Games PA AB Runs Hits 2B 3B HR TB RBIs BB K Avg Slg OBP
1993 YBS 130 544 486 61 158 33 4 19 256 94 47 63 .325 .527 .389
1994 YBS 130 574 510 71 151 28 4 15 232 86 55 72 .296 .455 .362
1995 YBS 130 552 492 76 155 32 4 22 261 97 38 76 .315 .530 .379
1996 YBS 126 552 483 62 147 21 6 16 228 86 53 66 .304 .472 .370
1997 YBS 130 572 463 70 152 30 7 18 250 99 91 70 .328 .540 .444
1998 YBS 124 545 468 70 152 29 4 19 246 96 68 79 .325 .526 .413
1999 YBS 134 597 521 93 192 34 2 37 341 153 63 81 .369 .655 .439
2000 YBS 135 589 506 71 168 31 5 21 272 97 73 59 .332 .538 .419
Totals: 1039 4525 3929 574 1275 238 36 167 2086 808 488 566 .325 .531 .402

redlegsfan21
07-01-2007, 09:15 PM
Do you as a batter get distracted if a runner on first is running without you knowing? Kinda like a manager giving the green light to run but doesn't have to or a runner just taking off on his own.

hiddengem
07-01-2007, 11:54 PM
Do you as a batter get distracted if a runner on first is running without you knowing? Kinda like a manager giving the green light to run but doesn't have to or a runner just taking off on his own.

No, 90% of the time I dont' know he's going.

NewEnglandAmazins
07-01-2007, 11:59 PM
HG, what criteria do players use for ASG voting? Is it a popularity contest or is a player with a break-out year given votes?

Old Sweater
07-02-2007, 12:26 AM
Just was checking transitions and saw that the Rangers brought up Desi Relaford even though you have a higher BA, OBP, SLG, and far fewer erorrs.

RuthMayBond
07-02-2007, 10:16 AM
No, 90% of the time I dont' know he's going.Thank you. I was wondering about announcers who keep harping on this and use it as an excuse when the batter doesn't get a hit (which he's not going to 70% of the time anyway)

hiddengem
07-02-2007, 10:40 AM
Just was checking transitions and saw that the Rangers brought up Desi Relaford even though you have a higher BA, OBP, SLG, and far fewer erorrs.

However, he has 8 1/2 yrs in the big leagues to my 38 days. I'm sure that was the deciding factor.

hiddengem
07-02-2007, 10:42 AM
Thank you. I was wondering about announcers who keep harping on this and use it as an excuse when the batter doesn't get a hit (which he's not going to 70% of the time anyway)

When the runner is on second base and he dancing around causing a sceen out there it can be a distraction, but from first its no big deal.

hiddengem
07-02-2007, 10:48 AM
HG, what criteria do players use for ASG voting? Is it a popularity contest or is a player with a break-out year given votes?

I'm not really sure..probably a little of both.

BoofBonser26
07-02-2007, 07:13 PM
Ian Kinsler just went on the DL. I read that the Rangers might look outside the organization for help, and have no plans to call anyone up from the minors. That just sucks. I'm pulling for you, HG!

:applaud:

rockin500
07-02-2007, 07:19 PM
When the runner is on second base and he dancing around causing a sceen out there it can be a distraction, but from first its no big deal.
thats usually where brenly says its a problem because its in your hitters background unlike at first base.

hiddengem
07-02-2007, 10:25 PM
Ian Kinsler just went on the DL. I read that the Rangers might look outside the organization for help, and have no plans to call anyone up from the minors. That just sucks. I'm pulling for you, HG!

:applaud:

They already called up Relaford for him.

jbooth
07-02-2007, 11:38 PM
They already called up Relaford for him.

Experience helps, but the guy has a lifetime batting avg of .244 with no power and has a below average fielding percentage. Why not try somebody new?

It doesn't matter much because, what the Rangers really need is pitching.
They're 29th in ERA at 5.26, only 4 teams have given up more HR's, only 1 team has given up more walks, they are 25th in strikeouts, and they are dead last in opponents batting average against them, at .363.

Only one team has given up more hits per nine innings.

They give up 5.1 ER per game, and the team is giving up 5.6 runs per game. Only one team has given up more total runs this season.

You need a heck of a lot of offensive production to make up for pitching that is that bad.

Ursa Major
07-04-2007, 12:46 AM
Well, I'm going to jump out on a limb here and guess HG doesn't want us to use the thread to dump on a teammate, even if "we" in our infinite major league management skills can see that the wrong man was called up. I'm sure HG wishes him well and we should should too. :crossfingers:

However, I will add that -- to the extent I can say I'm familiar with Ron Washingtong in view of many years of following the A's -- he is going to go ape if he sees anything akin to the 15 errors that Relaford already has committed this year in less than full time play, and largely at third base (which generally is regarded as being less testing than shortstop and second base). Those 15 errors extrapolate out to 36 errors over a 150-game playing stint. (By way of comparison, HG -- in a quarter fewer games -- has 2.) That is right up there in Joel Youngblood territory.

jbooth
07-04-2007, 07:59 AM
Well, I'm going to jump out on a limb here and guess HG doesn't want us to use the thread to dump on a teammate, even if "we" in our infinite major league management skills can see that the wrong man was called up. I'm sure HG wishes him well and we should should too. :crossfingers:



OK, but their pitching still stinks.

hiddengem
07-04-2007, 11:25 AM
Well, I'm going to jump out on a limb here and guess HG doesn't want us to use the thread to dump on a teammate, even if "we" in our infinite major league management skills can see that the wrong man was called up. I'm sure HG wishes him well and we should should too. :crossfingers:

However, I will add that -- to the extent I can say I'm familiar with Ron Washingtong in view of many years of following the A's -- he is going to go ape if he sees anything akin to the 15 errors that Relaford already has committed this year in less than full time play, and largely at third base (which generally is regarded as being less testing than shortstop and second base). Those 15 errors extrapolate out to 36 errors over a 150-game playing stint. (By way of comparison, HG -- in a quarter fewer games -- has 2.) That is right up there in Joel Youngblood territory.


He's probably going to play a bunch of postions, but the funny thing is he ONLY played 3rd down here. Its my understanding that he's a much better middle infield type of guy, I'm sure he'll do fine.

Seattle1
07-04-2007, 11:57 AM
HG what is your favorite MLB stadium from a player's standpoint? Even if you haven't played there I assume you have seen them all on tv.

KHenry14
07-09-2007, 09:09 AM
HG, yesterday the Dodgers had a situation where they put the hit and run on, and Russell Martin hit it out instead. I'm wondering if you could speak to the process one goes through as a hitter in that situation. Normally, a RH batter is going to try and get the ball to the right side where the 2B has left to cover second.Clearly a HR is better than a single, but that's pretty rare under the circumstances. And obviously the pitch selection and location can dictate whether that's possible or not. This makes it hard for us fans to know what a hitter is going through.

Therefore, would you mind running through the scenario from a hitter's perspective?

hiddengem
07-09-2007, 10:39 AM
HG, yesterday the Dodgers had a situation where they put the hit and run on, and Russell Martin hit it out instead. I'm wondering if you could speak to the process one goes through as a hitter in that situation. Normally, a RH batter is going to try and get the ball to the right side where the 2B has left to cover second.Clearly a HR is better than a single, but that's pretty rare under the circumstances. And obviously the pitch selection and location can dictate whether that's possible or not. This makes it hard for us fans to know what a hitter is going through.

Therefore, would you mind running through the scenario from a hitter's perspective?


Well, usually with a hit and run its the hitters job to atleast put the bat on the ball and ideally hit it hard on the ground somewhere, hoping it gets through the infield so the runner can go 1st to 3rd.

However, many organizations including mine stress that this is a "offensive" play. Meaning, don't go up there and play patty cake with the ball. They want you to take a healthy hack and the ball and try and drive it. This is probably the mind set that Martin had.

I've had situations where I take an "unordinary" swing at the ball trying to overemphasize hitting the ball on the ground and I end up popping the ball up. You are better off just taking your regular swing but maybe shortening it up a bit.

hiddengem
07-09-2007, 10:39 AM
HG what is your favorite MLB stadium from a player's standpoint? Even if you haven't played there I assume you have seen them all on tv.


Anything that is major league.

KHenry14
07-09-2007, 10:57 AM
However, many organizations including mine stress that this is a "offensive" play. Meaning, don't go up there and play patty cake with the ball. They want you to take a healthy hack and the ball and try and drive it. This is probably the mind set that Martin had.

You've mentioned in the past about how certain organizations have certain ways that they want their players to play. For example, a while ago how the Angels strongly stressed the need to go from 1st to 3rd on a hit no matter what the circumstances (BTW, the LA Times just did a long article on that subject). I'm wondering if you could comment on just how much does an organization teach top to bottom on how to play the game? The Rangers stressing the offensive concept of the hit and run, the Halo's and their baserunning strategy are two examples of that, but in how much depth does each organization go into? And do you think the players in the minors receive more instruction on these things than the guys in the majors?

Just curious...

west coast orange and black
07-10-2007, 12:31 AM
the rangers had 2 players in yesterday's future's game -- 3b john whittleman of the clinton lumberkings (A ball) and 2b german duran of the (AA) frisco roughriders.

do you know anything about either of 'em?
do you hear much about other players/teams affiliated with parent club texas to begin with?

west coast orange and black
07-10-2007, 12:34 AM
i see where you recently answered this question: "what is your name and what team do you play on?"

what's up?

hiddengem
07-10-2007, 12:34 AM
the rangers had 2 players in yesterday's future's game -- 3b john whittleman of the clinton lumberkings (A ball) and 2b german duran of the (AA) frisco roughriders.

do you know anything about either of 'em?
do you hear much about other players/teams affiliated with parent club texas to begin with?

I know both of them..Duran has a great future it appears. Whittleman has a nice left handed swing, but had a long way to go in the field when I saw him.

I "know of" most guys from spring training.

hiddengem
07-10-2007, 12:35 AM
i see where you recently answered this question: "what is your name and what team do you play on?"

what's up?

Its not like you can't figure it out if you have half a brain.

west coast orange and black
07-10-2007, 12:40 AM
so, duran might be joining the redhawks in the not-too-distant future?
i saw him yesterday at mays field and he looks like he's got pop, especially for 5'-10", 185.

you're listed at 6'-0", 185. is this actual, or just kinda close?

hiddengem
07-10-2007, 12:43 AM
so, duran might be joining the redhawks in the not-too-distant future?
i saw him yesterday at mays field and he looks like he's got pop, especially for 5'-10", 185.

you're listed at 6'-0", 185. is this actual, or just kinda close?

I don't think he'll be here until next year, but you never know. I"m pretty close to that..maybe 5 or so lbs light at this point.

west coast orange and black
07-10-2007, 12:47 AM
how is your batting instruction business going?
anything new for you on the horizon?

oh yeah: see you in sacramento next month.

redlegsfan21
07-10-2007, 02:46 PM
Do players care if the line-up is different everyday? I'm more curious about the major league players since in the minors, managers tend to try to use everyone. This was one of the critizisms of former manager Jerry Narron and I didn't think it had an affect.

hiddengem
07-12-2007, 11:01 AM
how is your batting instruction business going?
anything new for you on the horizon?

oh yeah: see you in sacramento next month.

We moved, so I sold my share.

hiddengem
07-12-2007, 11:02 AM
Do players care if the line-up is different everyday? I'm more curious about the major league players since in the minors, managers tend to try to use everyone. This was one of the critizisms of former manager Jerry Narron and I didn't think it had an affect.


Players like to get comfortable in a certain spot. Moving once in a while is ok, but not all the time.

west coast orange and black
07-13-2007, 10:28 AM
rickey henderson'll be joining the mets coaching staff. even if he ends up not being the hitting coach, and works as baserunning and 1st base coach, just how much can be accomplished with a new hitting coach? i mean, are players apt to adopt a new philosophy, if that's what a new coach wants to install?
what are some of the upsides and downsides for the players?

hiddengem
07-13-2007, 10:54 AM
rickey henderson'll be joining the mets coaching staff. even if he ends up not being the hitting coach, and works as baserunning and 1st base coach, just how much can be accomplished with a new hitting coach? i mean, are players apt to adopt a new philosophy, if that's what a new coach wants to install?
what are some of the upsides and downsides for the players?


He won't be implimenting a totally new philosophy at this point. Just a new face with some new ideas and ways to approach things. Sometimes just something new and fresh can be good.

Seattle1
07-15-2007, 11:32 AM
Anything that is major league.

What if it's artificial turf? Do you mind playing baseball on artificial turf?

hiddengem
07-15-2007, 07:32 PM
What if it's artificial turf? Do you mind playing baseball on artificial turf?

Played on it last year and enjoyed it.

Old Sweater
07-16-2007, 01:58 AM
HiddenGem, I know you have probably been asked this quite a few times but what is your opinion or other pro players opinions that have ever used a corked bat in BP?

After reading 4 articles I found they all agree that the corked bat don't help in distance of the ball that much. Some say 2% at most, some say about the same and one even stated that a corked bat actually could hurt the distance of a batted ball. A couple articles say that a corked bat is lighter and helps the spray hitter more then a power hitter which makes one wonder why would power hitters use them and risk the consequences of getting caught.

Every article was based math equations and theory by scientists, not one test did they hit a ball with a corked bat so I thought I would ask someone who actually might have used one that has a stroke.

Seattle1
07-16-2007, 09:42 AM
Played on it last year and enjoyed it.

Is the game "faster" on artificial turf? (Ground balls travel further, etc.)

hiddengem
07-16-2007, 11:29 AM
HiddenGem, I know you have probably been asked this quite a few times but what is your opinion or other pro players opinions that have ever used a corked bat in BP?

After reading 4 articles I found they all agree that the corked bat don't help in distance of the ball that much. Some say 2% at most, some say about the same and one even stated that a corked bat actually could hurt the distance of a batted ball. A couple articles say that a corked bat is lighter and helps the spray hitter more then a power hitter which makes one wonder why would power hitters use them and risk the consequences of getting caught.

Every article was based math equations and theory by scientists, not one test did they hit a ball with a corked bat so I thought I would ask someone who actually might have used one that has a stroke.


I've used one and the only thing I found was that the head of the bat was much lighter, so it helped your bat speed. I wouldn't say you gained any more "pop" out of the bat.

hiddengem
07-16-2007, 11:30 AM
Is the game "faster" on artificial turf? (Ground balls travel further, etc.)

Yea, the ball gets on you quicker.

west coast orange and black
07-17-2007, 05:28 PM
starting last friday, the 13th, the giants are set to play 48 games in the next 48 days
(1 day off during that stretch but there is a makeup doubleheader scheduled).

can you talk about the grind of that many games in that many days?
especially during hot, humid summer days? the travel's gotta be just killer.

what do you do to get through the dog days, h-g?

hiddengem
07-18-2007, 12:01 AM
starting last friday, the 13th, the giants are set to play 48 games in the next 48 days
(1 day off during that stretch but there is a makeup doubleheader scheduled).

can you talk about the grind of that many games in that many days?
especially during hot, humid summer days? the travel's gotta be just killer.

what do you do to get through the dog days, h-g?


right now we are on a 53 days on 1 day off to finish the season. You can punish your body beyond belief, but its the mind that needs a rest. Its the managers job to find relief for his players and give them a rest once in a while to rest the mind and the body.

The travel in the big leagues is much much better than ours..they fly the night before..we wake up at 3:45am fly somewhere, sleep in the hotel for an hr and then go to the park and play. They eat like kings, get paid 5 times as much perdiem as us so they can afford to eat well ouside of the clubhouse. But it is still a grind for them no doubt..but its much worse in the minor leagues.

I try and make sure I sleep alot, attempt to eat good..suppliment properly and get my workouts in. Aside from that, I have outlets away from baseball that I try and consume my time with when I'm away from the yard.

EricDavis
07-18-2007, 08:05 PM
I'm gonna see your team play in Round Rock Sunday. If you sign autographs, at what time do you usually sign?

hiddengem
07-18-2007, 10:21 PM
I'm gonna see your team play in Round Rock Sunday. If you sign autographs, at what time do you usually sign?

I don't sign Autographs.










Just kidding, I'll sign a few before the game coming out of the clubhouse and stay for a few minutes after.

EricDavis
07-19-2007, 09:31 PM
Awesome. I hope to see you there.

EricDavis
07-22-2007, 10:51 PM
Meeting you was great. It's too bad you didn't get in the game.

hiddengem
07-23-2007, 10:23 AM
Meeting you was great. It's too bad you didn't get in the game.


Cool, good to meet you as well.

-Kyle-
07-23-2007, 10:55 AM
HG, when you finish your career as a player have you considered still working around baseball? i.e. bench coach minor league team, or a trainer, or something like that?

hiddengem
07-24-2007, 01:36 AM
HG, when you finish your career as a player have you considered still working around baseball? i.e. bench coach minor league team, or a trainer, or something like that?

I've already been asked to stay in the game as a coach when I'm finished playing by a few organizations. I know I'll be a good coach and able to help alot of guys with the experiences I've had and what I've gone through, but its going to have to be the right situation. I'm not going to drag my family through the minor league life again. If I can find a job where I can live at home, like rookie ball where all the games are within a 1/2hr drive I'd consider it. Other than that its going to have to be a big league job.

Go Cardinals
07-24-2007, 11:03 AM
I've already been asked to stay in the game as a coach when I'm finished playing by a few organizations. I know I'll be a good coach and able to help alot of guys with the experiences I've had and what I've gone through, but its going to have to be the right situation. I'm not going to drag my family through the minor league life again. If I can find a job where I can live at home, like rookie ball where all the games are within a 1/2hr drive I'd consider it. Other than that its going to have to be a big league job.

How much do minor league coaches get paid? does it depend on the level or something? how does it work?

hiddengem
07-24-2007, 10:51 PM
How much do minor league coaches get paid? does it depend on the level or something? how does it work?


All over the board. Depends on how long you've been doing it and what your playing expereince was before you starting coaching. I'm sure there are minor league coaches making close to 100k but most are probably between 40-60k.

west coast orange and black
07-25-2007, 10:17 AM
all-star batting practice was done without music blaring.
I LOVED IT!

i have been fortunate enough to attend a handful of private batting sessions at mays field and it's totally different with no sounds other than grunts and groans and the bat smacking the ball.

when has the music been a plus for you? when a minus?

jbooth
07-25-2007, 01:35 PM
all-star batting practice was done without music blaring.
I LOVED IT!

i have been fortunate enough to attend a handful of private batting sessions at mays field and it's totally different with no sounds other than grunts and groans and the bat smacking the ball.

when has the music been a plus for you? when a minus?

I wish they would NEVER play music, or at least turn the volume down.

Baseball is a slow game with lots of pauses, and I like to chat with the person I came with, and others sitting around me. I don't like to have to yell to be heard, or cup my hands around my ears to hear the person talking to me. Shut off the dang music and let me hear the natural sounds of the park.

BoofBonser26
07-25-2007, 03:50 PM
Hiddengem, last I checked, you were 2 games back of the division lead. What's a pennant race like in the minor leagues? Do guys think about it much at all, or does it never really occur to them as they focus on the next level and honing their skills?

hiddengem
07-25-2007, 11:07 PM
all-star batting practice was done without music blaring.
I LOVED IT!

i have been fortunate enough to attend a handful of private batting sessions at mays field and it's totally different with no sounds other than grunts and groans and the bat smacking the ball.

when has the music been a plus for you? when a minus?

I can't stand to take batting practice without music playing. During the game I don't really pay attention to it.

hiddengem
07-25-2007, 11:08 PM
Hiddengem, last I checked, you were 2 games back of the division lead. What's a pennant race like in the minor leagues? Do guys think about it much at all, or does it never really occur to them as they focus on the next level and honing their skills?

You watch and pay attention to it, but its not like being in the big leagues where thats the only thing that matters. Regardless of your place in the standings we are here for development.

redlegsfan21
07-26-2007, 12:10 AM
What was the scariest moment on the diamond for you HG?

So far this year, I've seen two of the scariest plays. One when Ryan Freel and Norris Hopper collided in the outfield and Freel didn't move. And another tonight when Pedro Lopez was hit in the head with a fastball and just laid on home plate. I don't know if you've seen either moment but I'm sure you've seen similar moments.

Honus Wagner Rules
07-26-2007, 01:39 AM
hiddengem,

According to your stat line you pitched one inning last year? Was that in a blowout game?

hiddengem
07-26-2007, 11:08 AM
What was the scariest moment on the diamond for you HG?

So far this year, I've seen two of the scariest plays. One when Ryan Freel and Norris Hopper collided in the outfield and Freel didn't move. And another tonight when Pedro Lopez was hit in the head with a fastball and just laid on home plate. I don't know if you've seen either moment but I'm sure you've seen similar moments.


I saw a guy get hit in the face with a line drive off the bat. Blew up his mouth on the inside and out.

hiddengem
07-26-2007, 11:09 AM
hiddengem,

According to your stat line you pitched one inning last year? Was that in a blowout game?

No, the coaching staff wanted to give our team the best chance to win.:D

Old Sweater
07-26-2007, 05:39 PM
No, the coaching staff wanted to give our team the best chance to win.:D

Curious here. What did you clock on the gun?

BoofBonser26
07-26-2007, 05:44 PM
No, the coaching staff wanted to give our team the best chance to win.:D
HG, you just made my day. :rofl:

You'd better hope no-one on that pitching staff ever gets on this message board. :shhh:

KingJ
07-26-2007, 05:53 PM
Too bad the Rangers called up Ramon Vazquez and Travis Metcalf before you. It would've been great to see you play at 2nd or 3rd at the Rangers-Mariners game I was at...

hiddengem
07-26-2007, 10:54 PM
Curious here. What did you clock on the gun?

93-94 *sniff sniff*. But I was told I couldn't cut it loose. No, I think I was around 83-85 or something like that.

hiddengem
07-26-2007, 10:54 PM
HG, you just made my day. :rofl:

You'd better hope no-one on that pitching staff ever gets on this message board. :shhh:


It was a 1,2,3 inning with 11 pitches total. The Pitchers hated me that night.

hiddengem
07-26-2007, 10:55 PM
Too bad the Rangers called up Ramon Vazquez and Travis Metcalf before you. It would've been great to see you play at 2nd or 3rd at the Rangers-Mariners game I was at...

Yea, too bad.

RuthMayBond
07-27-2007, 08:22 AM
It was a 1,2,3 inning with 11 pitches total. The Pitchers hated me that night.Do the minor leagues have a Cy Young award? :highfive: :bowdown: :pray: :think: :applaud: :crossfingers:

Go Cardinals
07-27-2007, 10:25 AM
Yea, too bad.

On the stupid Ranger's mailbag, I asked when you would be called up! I'm curious what a guy close to the orgonization thinks.

hiddengem
07-27-2007, 10:46 AM
On the stupid Ranger's mailbag, I asked when you would be called up! I'm curious what a guy close to the orgonization thinks.

You most likely won't get a response. Unfortunately, some of the decisions I've seen made in this organization(most of them not concerning me) seem to be rooted in politics. But I'm not here to make decisions and I'll act professionally either way.

Honus Wagner Rules
07-27-2007, 12:37 PM
hiddengem,

Over the years I've noticed that after a certain age players get labeled as "triple-A" guy and never get a shot at the majors. Is it accurate to say that after, say age 26-27, if a player hasn't not established himself as a regular or a backup in the majors he never will? You are most likely a better player than at least 50-60 major leaguers but why do they have major league jobs and you don't? I know every once in a while a Jim Morris will come out of nowhere but that is very rare. Is it a economic issue, where teams don't want to keep pouring money into a 28 year old if they think he won't contribute to the major league club?

hiddengem
07-27-2007, 12:52 PM
hiddengem,

Over the years I've noticed that after a certain age players get labeled as "triple-A" guy and never get a shot at the majors. Is it accurate to say that after, say age 26-27, if a player hasn't not established himself as a regular or a backup in the majors he never will? You are most likely a better player than at least 50-60 major leaguers but why do they have major league jobs and you don't? I know every once in a while a Jim Morris will come out of nowhere but that is very rare. Is it a economic issue, where teams don't want to keep pouring money into a 28 year old if they think he won't contribute to the major league club?


Yea, unfortunately once you get "labled" whether warranted or not, its tough to shake. If you are a player that is fortunate enough to get called up when you are young, the organization is willing to let you stuggle a bit to find your way. If you don't and you don't get established in those years, they are going to want immediate success out of an older player and if for some reason they don't think you'll give it to them, they'll forget about you. Just the politics of the game.

sharrock
07-28-2007, 09:56 AM
hiddengem, I have a question. I don't know if you have addressed it before but I didnt see it in the parts of the thread I have read.

In watching a pitcher from the Dugout, then the on-deck circle, is there really a way to gauge his stuff? Disregarding the scouting report, do you truly have a good idea what to expect before you dig in?

And thanks for the thread, I've enjoyed discovering it. Not sure how I missed it until now considering I sort of keep an eye on the Rangers minor leagues as I live close to the AA stadium.

hiddengem
07-28-2007, 05:29 PM
hiddengem, I have a question. I don't know if you have addressed it before but I didnt see it in the parts of the thread I have read.

In watching a pitcher from the Dugout, then the on-deck circle, is there really a way to gauge his stuff? Disregarding the scouting report, do you truly have a good idea what to expect before you dig in?

And thanks for the thread, I've enjoyed discovering it. Not sure how I missed it until now considering I sort of keep an eye on the Rangers minor leagues as I live close to the AA stadium.

http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=63508

sharrock
07-28-2007, 05:46 PM
Well I guess you had covered it relatively recently. Thanks for linking, that thread covered it.

hiddengem
07-28-2007, 11:35 PM
Well I guess you had covered it relatively recently. Thanks for linking, that thread covered it.

No problem.

ReverendP
07-30-2007, 09:24 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BZO08VboXA8

I'm a 41 year old adult rec player and have been enjoying this thread and many over at fundamentals.

I think this info is fantastic. Do you get to work with Rudy Jaramillo?

I attended a camp with a Redsox Hitting instructor Arnie Beyeler and he was saying a lot of the same things.

hiddengem
07-30-2007, 03:58 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BZO08VboXA8

I'm a 41 year old adult rec player and have been enjoying this thread and many over at fundamentals.

I think this info is fantastic. Do you get to work with Rudy Jaramillo?

I attended a camp with a Redsox Hitting instructor Arnie Beyeler and he was saying a lot of the same things.


Great, glad you were able to take something away from it. Yes, I worked with him in Spring Training.

Williamsburg2599
07-31-2007, 04:32 PM
HG,
What do you think of all the deadline moves the Ranger's organization made?

hiddengem
07-31-2007, 04:37 PM
HG,
What do you think of all the deadline moves the Ranger's organization made?


Well, none of them are surprising. We all knew we were sellers and would move some of our guys doing well. Tex was offered an 8yr 140million dollar deal and he turned it down just before he was traded. That tells me nothing was bringing him back here and its not about the money for him. My guess is he'll eventually end up in New York or Baltimore.

We got alot of young talent besides Salty and the pitcher from Boston, one of the outfielders in the Gagne trade is coming here(OKC) but other than that I don't really know any of them.

TheKingofKings
08-01-2007, 06:56 PM
Well, none of them are surprising. We all knew we were sellers and would move some of our guys doing well. Tex was offered an 8yr 140million dollar deal and he turned it down just before he was traded. That tells me nothing was bringing him back here and its not about the money for him. My guess is he'll eventually end up in New York or Baltimore.

We got alot of young talent besides Salty and the pitcher from Boston, one of the outfielders in the Gagne trade is coming here(OKC) but other than that I don't really know any of them.

David Murphy, the OF acquired along with Kason Gabbard in the Gagne trade, is the one I think you are talking about.

Have you met him yet?
What are your 1st impressions?

He is supposed to be contending for a starting OF job with the Rangers in 2008.

Do you think he has the stuff to be a fixture in the OF for years to come?

Williamsburg2599
08-01-2007, 07:16 PM
David Murphy, the OF acquired along with Kason Gabbard in the Gagne trade, is the one I think you are talking about.

Have you met him yet?
What are your 1st impressions?

He is supposed to be contending for a starting OF job with the Rangers in 2008.

Do you think he has the stuff to be a fixture in the OF for years to come?

TKoK, I don't think he's down there yet, because his wife was due to give birth in Providence yesterday/today, at least that's what NESN said.

TheKingofKings
08-01-2007, 07:20 PM
TKoK, I don't think he's down there yet, because his wife was due to give birth in Providence yesterday/today, at least that's what NESN said.

Thanks for the Information.

Hiddengem, feel free to answer my question after you've actually gotten a chance to meet David.

ChrisLDuncan
08-01-2007, 11:40 PM
HG, do you think that pitchers have control over what happens to the balls that they put in play (aside from the obvious ones hit to them) because I've been reading up on DIPS, and yet I some how feel that pitchers have some control over the averages of the balls that they put in play. Or is it entirely up to the defense?

hiddengem
08-02-2007, 12:27 AM
David Murphy, the OF acquired along with Kason Gabbard in the Gagne trade, is the one I think you are talking about.

Have you met him yet?
What are your 1st impressions?

He is supposed to be contending for a starting OF job with the Rangers in 2008.

Do you think he has the stuff to be a fixture in the OF for years to come?

He's not here..he'll be here on Monday. I have no idea what he'll do here.

hiddengem
08-02-2007, 12:29 AM
HG, do you think that pitchers have control over what happens to the balls that they put in play (aside from the obvious ones hit to them) because I've been reading up on DIPS, and yet I some how feel that pitchers have some control over the averages of the balls that they put in play. Or is it entirely up to the defense?


I'm not following your question.

ChrisLDuncan
08-02-2007, 01:35 AM
I'm not following your question.

Oh I'm having a hard time wording this, lemme try to put it as straight as possible: Do pitchers have control over the balls that they put in play?


Thanks,
Chris.

jbooth
08-02-2007, 07:37 AM
Oh I'm having a hard time wording this, lemme try to put it as straight as possible: Do pitchers have control over the balls that they put in play?


Thanks,
Chris.

Are you talking about having control of the ball after it leaves the bat?

If so, of course they don't. Do you think they have Jedi Force powers?:laugh

The pitcher has no control over anything other than how the ball comes out of his hand when he throws it to the batter.

hiddengem
08-02-2007, 11:28 AM
Oh I'm having a hard time wording this, lemme try to put it as straight as possible: Do pitchers have control over the balls that they put in play?


Thanks,
Chris.


Who is they?

2Chance
08-02-2007, 06:19 PM
Just a guess, but I think he is referring to the story you hear every once in a while about an infielder who knows that a certain pitch is coming and positions himself accordingly: the SS moves two steps to his right because he knows a slider is coming, and scoops up a grounder that was magically hit right at him.

Any truth in that?
If that wasn't his question, it's at least got me curious!

ChrisLDuncan
08-02-2007, 09:20 PM
Who is they?

Do the pitchers have anycontrol of the out come (caught or drops down for a hit) of balls that pitchers put into play?

jbooth
08-02-2007, 11:45 PM
Do the pitchers have anycontrol of the out come (caught or drops down for a hit) of balls that pitchers put into play?


I think you now have EVERYBODY confused. What the heck are you talking about?:confused: :noidea

The ball becomes in play when the bat hits the ball. A "play" is a catch of that ball, or throw to retire a runner, after it is caught. What are you talking about when you keep asking if the pitcher controls balls put into play?

ChrisLDuncan
08-02-2007, 11:55 PM
I think you now have EVERYBODY confused. What the heck are you talking about?:confused: :noidea

The ball becomes in play when the bat hits the ball. A "play" is a catch of that ball, or throw to retire a runner, after it is caught. What are you talking about when you keep asking if the pitcher controls balls put into play?

Ehh...I guess I really don't even know how to phrase this question. :confused:


Does a pitcher have the ability to influence the outcome of a ball that gets hit off of him. Home Runs notwithstanding.

Ursa Major
08-02-2007, 11:59 PM
First, it was good to see you again yesterday in Fresno, HG. As always, your thoughtfulness was overwhelming in greeting me and my family. The two older girls were playing this mornining with the signed balls you gave them. I'm informed that my 5 year old great-niece is madly in love with you. We'll explain to her about your wife at some later point.

Second, as to the question on the table, it sounds like CD is revisiting the issue that Sabrematician love to explore -- do certain pitchers fare better on balls put in play than others? For example, there are some pitchers renowned for not getting many strikeouts but who still are successful because they can generate more outs on hit balls than others, who may give up more solidly hit balls. The classic examples are sinker ball pitchers, who usually don't get many strikeouts, but who are credited with throwing a lot more ground ball outs on hit balls than non-sinkerballers.

CD, am I close to what you were asking?

hiddengem
08-03-2007, 01:53 AM
Ehh...I guess I really don't even know how to phrase this question. :confused:


Does a pitcher have the ability to influence the outcome of a ball that gets hit off of him. Home Runs notwithstanding.


Are you asking me if a pitcher might have the ability to make a hitter hit the ball to a certain spot? If so, yes some do. Like Ursa said, successful sinker ball pitchers have made a living getting hitters to bang the ball in the ground for consistent outs. Derek Lowe, Maddux, Brandon Webb are all examples.

hiddengem
08-03-2007, 01:57 AM
First, it was good to see you again yesterday in Fresno, HG. As always, your thoughtfulness was overwhelming in greeting me and my family. The two older girls were playing this mornining with the signed balls you gave them. I'm informed that my 5 year old great-niece is madly in love with you. We'll explain to her about your wife at some later point.

Second, as to the question on the table, it sounds like CD is revisiting the issue that Sabrematician love to explore -- do certain pitchers fare better on balls put in play than others? For example, there are some pitchers renowned for not getting many strikeouts but who still are successful because they can generate more outs on hit balls than others, who may give up more solidly hit balls. The classic examples are sinker ball pitchers, who usually don't get many strikeouts, but who are credited with throwing a lot more ground ball outs on hit balls than non-sinkerballers.

CD, am I close to what you were asking?

It was good to see you as well. I hope I was able to make a nice impression on your family and give them some decent memories of a baseball game.

Honus Wagner Rules
08-03-2007, 02:14 AM
Are you asking me if a pitcher might have the ability to make a hitter hit the ball to a certain spot? If so, yes some do. Like Ursa said, successful sinker ball pitchers have made a living getting hitters to bang the ball in the ground for consistent outs. Derek Lowe, Maddux, Brandon Webb are all examples.
And don't forget Kenvin Brown. At his best it seemed he made the ball weigh like 10 pounds to the hitters.

Ursa Major
08-05-2007, 01:39 AM
HiddenGem said: It was good to see you as well. I hope I was able to make a nice impression on your family and give them some decent memories of a baseball game. I think "nice impression" and "decent memories" are two of the greatest understatements I've ever heard. My great-nieces were absolutely thrilled to have met you. I couldn't believe that all three little munchkins were willing to sit through all nine innings of a night game; usually, any kid under 8 will tolerate a baseball game only so long as the junk food holds out.

My worry is that, the next time any of the three girls goes to a baseball game, they'll be disappointed and start asking, "When does the nice man in the pretty uniform come out and give us our baseballs?"

hiddengem
08-05-2007, 03:07 AM
I think "nice impression" and "decent memories" are two of the greatest understatements I've ever heard. My great-nieces were absolutely thrilled to have met you. I couldn't believe that all three little munchkins were willing to sit through all nine innings of a night game; usually, any kid under 8 will tolerate a baseball game only so long as the junk food holds out.

My worry is that, the next time any of the three girls goes to a baseball game, they'll be disappointed and start asking, "When does the nice man in the pretty uniform come out and give us our baseballs?"

Yea, Unfortunately thats probably not going to happen every time they go to a game. But then again, alot of kids never have that happen to them and thats kinda sad. Glad they enjoyed it.

ChrisLDuncan
08-05-2007, 03:23 AM
Second, as to the question on the table, it sounds like CD is revisiting the issue that Sabrematician love to explore -- do certain pitchers fare better on balls put in play than others? For example, there are some pitchers renowned for not getting many strikeouts but who still are successful because they can generate more outs on hit balls than others, who may give up more solidly hit balls. The classic examples are sinker ball pitchers, who usually don't get many strikeouts, but who are credited with throwing a lot more ground ball outs on hit balls than non-sinkerballers.

CD, am I close to what you were asking?


Yeah, that's mainly it. I was looking at the "luck" involved with pitching. For example Erik Bedard has been on fire the past three months but was pretty crappy the first month. However, the average of balls put in play in the first month was pretty high and it lowered the next few. That seems to happen alot a guy will just get crushed for a month or so and then cruise for the next few, I was wondering if the guy's doing anything differently in the month when he was getting crushed or if his defense wasn't getting to the balls that were put in play. The statheads say it was bad luck, I was wanting the opinion of a guy who has played at a higher echelon than high school ball.

hiddengem
08-05-2007, 01:05 PM
Yeah, that's mainly it. I was looking at the "luck" involved with pitching. For example Erik Bedard has been on fire the past three months but was pretty crappy the first month. However, the average of balls put in play in the first month was pretty high and it lowered the next few. That seems to happen alot a guy will just get crushed for a month or so and then cruise for the next few, I was wondering if the guy's doing anything differently in the month when he was getting crushed or if his defense wasn't getting to the balls that were put in play. The statheads say it was bad luck, I was wanting the opinion of a guy who has played at a higher echelon than high school ball.


Well with regards to Bedard I know a few guys that have faced him this year. He had an outstanding game against Texas last month with like 15k's. The guys say he is flat out filthy. So, my assumption as to what was going on the bad month was that his location was off, missing his spots so guys were able to put the bat on the ball a little more often and find holes. But if he is on with his location, his "stuff" is very tough to hit.

Guys that pitch to contact ie, sinker ballers and maddux type guys have to have a bit of luck on their side.

Take for instance Mike Thompson of the Padres. Did pretty well last year and had some luck on his side. I spoke to him a few weeks back and he felt like his stuff was as good as always this year, but the hitters were finding holes this year, guys behind him wern't making some plays ect.

ChrisLDuncan
08-05-2007, 04:53 PM
Well with regards to Bedard I know a few guys that have faced him this year. He had an outstanding game against Texas last month with like 15k's. The guys say he is flat out filthy. So, my assumption as to what was going on the bad month was that his location was off, missing his spots so guys were able to put the bat on the ball a little more often and find holes. But if he is on with his location, his "stuff" is very tough to hit.


With regards to Bedard would you say that he's better than Santana?

hiddengem
08-05-2007, 10:46 PM
With regards to Bedard would you say that he's better than Santana?

They are both pitching in an elite class.

Richmond Hill Phoenix
08-06-2007, 08:22 AM
Hey HG, I was at the Jays-Rangers game on Saturday afternoon, and I sat right behind the dugout. A couple of things: First of all, I was wondering about the bullpen-catcher. I think the name on his jersey was Frasier. He wasn't listed on their 40-man roster, so I was wondering who he was. Is he really a coach? What's the deal there?

Secondly, there were alot of guys sitting around me who were yapping at the bullpen all game. CJ Wilson yelled back a couple of times, but other than that they pretty much ignored it. Have you ever talked to any pitchers about how it is to be harassed by the home fans all game long? How loud/vulgar do they have to get before players will react to it?

ChrisLDuncan
08-06-2007, 01:58 PM
Are there a lot of pitchers, GB pitchers notwithstanding, that you could not get good contact off of? Like a pitcher that no matter what all you could do was get weak contact off of?

hiddengem
08-06-2007, 02:15 PM
Hey HG, I was at the Jays-Rangers game on Saturday afternoon, and I sat right behind the dugout. A couple of things: First of all, I was wondering about the bullpen-catcher. I think the name on his jersey was Frasier. He wasn't listed on their 40-man roster, so I was wondering who he was. Is he really a coach? What's the deal there?

Secondly, there were alot of guys sitting around me who were yapping at the bullpen all game. CJ Wilson yelled back a couple of times, but other than that they pretty much ignored it. Have you ever talked to any pitchers about how it is to be harassed by the home fans all game long? How loud/vulgar do they have to get before players will react to it?

Just about every team in the game has a bullpen catcher thats not on the roster. He's there so the backup catcher can stay in the dugout.

Why do I need to talk to them, when it happens to me? It varies from player to player, but if they get vulgar with me I'll throw it right back at them. But 100% of the time its somebody wanting to get a reaction out of you because they'd give there left "you know what" to be standing in your shoes.:waving

hiddengem
08-06-2007, 02:17 PM
Are there a lot of pitchers, GB pitchers notwithstanding, that you could not get good contact off of? Like a pitcher that no matter what all you could do was get weak contact off of?

There are pitchers where good contact is less frequent. But I wouldn't go as far as to say all I could was get weak contact. Webb is probably the best example of that guy.

ChrisLDuncan
08-06-2007, 02:18 PM
Just about every team in the game has a bullpen catcher thats not on the roster. He's there so the backup catcher can stay in the dugout.

Why do I need to talk to them, when it happens to me? It varies from player to player, but if they get vulgar with me I'll throw it right back at them. But 100% of the time its somebody wanting to get a reaction out of you because they'd give there left "you know what" to be standing in your shoes.:waving

What if someone says something that's not really vulgar but clever...for example I was at an Iowa Cubs game a while back and a guy was talking to the CF (Marlon Byrd I think) he asked "Hey did you used to play for the Phillies" and the CF nodded and he responded "Is it true that Pat Burrell has three nipples" now that's a little sophmoric, granted, but I chuckled...how would you react if that was you?

Zito75
08-06-2007, 09:58 PM
Great questions and input there, thanks guys...

Along the same lines of the sinker ballers, what about guys like Jamie Moyer who throw change ups? Personally, I think that's what makes Johan Santana so great is his ability to change speeds. But when you face a guy like Moyer, say a night after seeing Cole Hamels, is it hard to adjust? How about against a knuckleballer like Tim Wakefield?

KHenry14
08-06-2007, 11:59 PM
HG, after watching guys on the Giants and Nats fully botch a couple of sacrifice bunt attmepts tonite, I was just wondering how hard it is to get a bunt down? Do these guys fail just because of a lack of work on bunting? Or is there more to it? For example, one guy tonite with runners on 2nd and 1st with no outs, had the bunt sign from his manager, and laely tried to bunt on the first two pitches, both of which were well out of the strike zone. Clearly he was going to bunt at anything the pitcher threw, which is obviously not good technique.

Can you talk more about the techniques and thought processes behind sac bunting?

hiddengem
08-07-2007, 12:42 AM
What if someone says something that's not really vulgar but clever...for example I was at an Iowa Cubs game a while back and a guy was talking to the CF (Marlon Byrd I think) he asked "Hey did you used to play for the Phillies" and the CF nodded and he responded "Is it true that Pat Burrell has three nipples" now that's a little sophmoric, granted, but I chuckled...how would you react if that was you?

If you were at a game where Marlon Byrd was playing center this year, then I was on the same field. Why didn't you say hello?

As for the comment, thats just a stupid question and I probably wouldn't even respond. Why did you laugh? I mean how is that even funny?

hiddengem
08-07-2007, 12:46 AM
Great questions and input there, thanks guys...

Along the same lines of the sinker ballers, what about guys like Jamie Moyer who throw change ups? Personally, I think that's what makes Johan Santana so great is his ability to change speeds. But when you face a guy like Moyer, say a night after seeing Cole Hamels, is it hard to adjust? How about against a knuckleballer like Tim Wakefield?


The reason Johan's changeup is so good is because of his ability to throw his fastball for strikes consistently. When you see 95mph blow past you, you are naturally going to guard against that, and it makes the changeup that much better.

Moyer is just so deceptive, his motion never changes, he changes speeds and his location is money. Also he is a student of the game, he has an innate ability to look at a hitter and know what he is trying to do or what he is looking for. That is how he can blow up bats with 83mph.

hiddengem
08-07-2007, 12:50 AM
HG, after watching guys on the Giants and Nats fully botch a couple of sacrifice bunt attmepts tonite, I was just wondering how hard it is to get a bunt down? Do these guys fail just because of a lack of work on bunting? Or is there more to it? For example, one guy tonite with runners on 2nd and 1st with no outs, had the bunt sign from his manager, and laely tried to bunt on the first two pitches, both of which were well out of the strike zone. Clearly he was going to bunt at anything the pitcher threw, which is obviously not good technique.

Can you talk more about the techniques and thought processes behind sac bunting?


Over the course of my career, I've been a pretty good bunter. I work on it, I use it in the game and I try and make it a part of my game.
However, its not as easy as it looks. I mean your trying to put a good bunt down in a good location when the guy is throwing cheese up there with movement.

I try and preset my bat angle, as to where I'm trying to bunt the ball...The key is to get your bat out in front of you and not back close to your body. I try and start low and adjust up..I feel its more difficult to start high and then try and bunt a low ball.

ChrisLDuncan
08-07-2007, 02:39 AM
If you were at a game where Marlon Byrd was playing center this year, then I was on the same field. Why didn't you say hello?

As for the comment, thats just a stupid question and I probably wouldn't even respond. Why did you laugh? I mean how is that even funny?

Actually that was before I read this thread...I know dumb move, that and I still don't know your name. I also used to work the scoreboard at Principal Park, early in the season but then some friends needed help with some things and I got terribly busy. But if I see the Oklahoma Red Hawks again I'll be sure to stop by and say hi if I can figure who you are. :waving I wish I would have asked you, so that I can say what's up and show you the "great" city of Des Moines.

I guess I laughed because it was so unexpected...I guess when you break dequorum it ends up humorous.

Honus Wagner Rules
08-10-2007, 02:09 AM
Hi hiddengem,

Can you give a professional ballplayer's view as to what Rick Ankiel had to go through to get back to the major leagues? A 3-run HR in his first game back was pretty cool! :clapping

hiddengem
08-10-2007, 10:35 AM
Hi hiddengem,

Can you give a professional ballplayer's view as to what Rick Ankiel had to go through to get back to the major leagues? A 3-run HR in his first game back was pretty cool! :clapping


I'm sure alot of hard work..but Rick is a tremendous athlete. One of those guys thats good at whatever game he is playing. The one thing that made this transition alot easier is that he always hated pitching, regardless of whether he was doing good or bad. He always had a passion for playing a position. I'm sure a huge weight was lifted off his shoulders once he didn't have to think about pitching any longer.

ChrisLDuncan
08-12-2007, 12:25 PM
HG, do you think a K is anyworse than a regular out.

hiddengem
08-12-2007, 04:53 PM
HG, do you think a K is anyworse than a regular out.

In certain situations, yes.

ChrisLDuncan
08-12-2007, 04:55 PM
In certain situations, yes.

What about a guy like Sizemore, I was listening to announcers saying that he should put more balls in play because a guy with his speed can beat out alot of ground balls...does that have any validity?

ChrisLDuncan
08-15-2007, 12:04 AM
Hey HG, when a starter gets rocked early on does that ever suck the momentum out of a team?

flash143817
08-15-2007, 03:42 AM
I'm sure alot of hard work..but Rick is a tremendous athlete. One of those guys thats good at whatever game he is playing. The one thing that made this transition alot easier is that he always hated pitching, regardless of whether he was doing good or bad. He always had a passion for playing a position. I'm sure a huge weight was lifted off his shoulders once he didn't have to think about pitching any longer.


I hadn't heard this previously. Is this something that's been passed through the grapevine among players? Did Ankiel himself tell you that?

hiddengem
08-15-2007, 11:10 AM
What about a guy like Sizemore, I was listening to announcers saying that he should put more balls in play because a guy with his speed can beat out alot of ground balls...does that have any validity?


What do you think?

hiddengem
08-15-2007, 11:11 AM
Hey HG, when a starter gets rocked early on does that ever suck the momentum out of a team?

of course it does.

west coast orange and black
08-15-2007, 11:14 AM
bonds hit #756 and the hundreds of reporters crowding around the giants players have left and the players are happy about that.

have you ever been in a situation where the media, in one way or another, were a problem?

hiddengem
08-15-2007, 11:15 AM
I hadn't heard this previously. Is this something that's been passed through the grapevine among players? Did Ankiel himself tell you that?

We talked about it in the cage one day, but I know a few of his teamates that are close to him and we talked about it also.

hiddengem
08-15-2007, 11:16 AM
bonds hit #756 and the hundreds of reporters crowding around the giants players have left and the players are happy about that.

have you ever been in a situation where the media, in one way or another, were a problem?

No, nothing on their scale.

tomstoneradio
08-16-2007, 01:51 PM
HG,

What age should you give up on trying to play professional baseball (whether it be MLB, Independent, overseas, anything where you get paid to play) if you have never played pro before?

hiddengem
08-16-2007, 04:20 PM
HG,

What age should you give up on trying to play professional baseball (whether it be MLB, Independent, overseas, anything where you get paid to play) if you have never played pro before?

Thats a tough question to answer, because ocassionally you'll hear of crazy stories where people beat the odds. Doesn't happen very often however.

Basically if you don't sign professionally out of high school, go to college and don't sign anything when you are finished from that, your chances are pretty slim that anything will happen for you. I've seen some pretty good players go undrafted out of high school and college and get a club to sign them for free as a free agent. I've also played with some dam good players in college that never got a chance at anything. So if that doesn't happen for you, its going to be a tough road.


You can try to go to tryouts, have some people make calls for you, but at that point the clock is ticking pretty fast for you.

tomstoneradio
08-16-2007, 04:32 PM
Thats a tough question to answer, because ocassionally you'll hear of crazy stories where people beat the odds. Doesn't happen very often however.

Basically if you don't sign professionally out of high school, go to college and don't sign anything when you are finished from that, your chances are pretty slim that anything will happen for you. I've seen some pretty good players go undrafted out of high school and college and get a club to sign them for free as a free agent. I've also played with some dam good players in college that never got a chance at anything. So if that doesn't happen for you, its going to be a tough road.


You can try to go to tryouts, have some people make calls for you, but at that point the clock is ticking pretty fast for you.

That's what I have discovered. It seems that at the majority of tryouts I have been to, the scouts and team reps have people there that they have basically already chosen and just want to see them play one more time to make sure. That of course leaves people like me with a few less dollars in our pockets and no closer to the dream. Do you have to go to these tryouts and crush a 450ft. home run during BP and run a 6.8 60 to even be noticed?

Maybe if I wear ass-less chaps to the next tryout they'd take a harder look...:laugh

Honus Wagner Rules
08-16-2007, 05:16 PM
Hi hiddengem,

Are you getting excited about a possible call up to the big club in September?

hiddengem
08-16-2007, 10:19 PM
Hi hiddengem,

Are you getting excited about a possible call up to the big club in September?

No........

hiddengem
08-16-2007, 10:20 PM
That's what I have discovered. It seems that at the majority of tryouts I have been to, the scouts and team reps have people there that they have basically already chosen and just want to see them play one more time to make sure. That of course leaves people like me with a few less dollars in our pockets and no closer to the dream. Do you have to go to these tryouts and crush a 450ft. home run during BP and run a 6.8 60 to even be noticed?

Maybe if I wear ass-less chaps to the next tryout they'd take a harder look...:laugh


I really don't know what they look for...Like you said, I think they already have their mind made up as to what and who they want. I think its just good PR for the team, making it sound like they'll give anybody a look.

yankeesr#1
08-16-2007, 11:39 PM
No........

Why are you not excited for a MLB call up?

hiddengem
08-17-2007, 11:33 AM
Why are you not excited for a MLB call up?


Because I'm probaby not going to get one.

Honus Wagner Rules
08-17-2007, 11:52 AM
Because I'm probaby not going to get one.

:sorry: :sorry:

sharrock
08-17-2007, 12:50 PM
HiddenGem, with the offseason coming up... how do you transition into it? Any routines or things you look forward to? Once you get some R&R, how do you keep baseball sharp?

ChrisLDuncan
08-17-2007, 03:58 PM
HG, what do you think of Phil Hughes' new mechanics

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/if-it-aint-brokea-video-review-of-phil-hughes-mechanical-changes/

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/phil-hughes-part-2-more-video-analysis/

hiddengem
08-17-2007, 04:04 PM
HiddenGem, with the offseason coming up... how do you transition into it? Any routines or things you look forward to? Once you get some R&R, how do you keep baseball sharp?

Oh yea..I REALLY enjoy my offseasons. I'm going to hit the lake with the jetski's and friends boats until the weather cools off. Then I transition into winter recreation..camping, offroading ect. I'll take a few weeks off, then start lifting again...Wont do anything baseball wise until after Thanksgiving usually.

hiddengem
08-17-2007, 04:16 PM
HG, what do you think of Phil Hughes' new mechanics

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/if-it-aint-brokea-video-review-of-phil-hughes-mechanical-changes/

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/phil-hughes-part-2-more-video-analysis/

Ahh, I dont know. Whatever makes him throw softer I like the best.;)

Honus Wagner Rules
08-17-2007, 04:19 PM
hiddengem,

How would you prepare to face this pitcher? The fun begins at the 1:32 mark. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb8JbpvrLbI


Most of the major leaguers struggled against this pitcher.

ChrisLDuncan
08-17-2007, 04:21 PM
Ahh, I dont know. Whatever makes him throw softer I like the best.;)

HA! I've heard rumblings that his new mechanics will screw him up or lower his ceiling...I was a lil worried.

Williamsburg2599
08-17-2007, 04:27 PM
hiddengem,

How would you prepare to face this pitcher?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb8JbpvrLbI


Most of the major leaguers struggled against this pitcher.

I believe that's a baulk.;)


That being said, she would probably be the all-time wins leader if she lived (and they let her play) in the 1880's......

My un-pro advice would be swing above the ball, as it's rising in on you.

hiddengem
08-17-2007, 10:38 PM
hiddengem,

How would you prepare to face this pitcher? The fun begins at the 1:32 mark. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb8JbpvrLbI


Most of the major leaguers struggled against this pitcher.

I'd take her deep.:p

Honus Wagner Rules
08-17-2007, 10:42 PM
I'd take her deep.:p

:laugh :laugh

As long as you lay off her rising fastball you'll be ok.

Ursa Major
08-18-2007, 12:34 AM
Ursa Minor and I 'met' her at a celebrity softball game here in Berkeley a few years ago. We were trying to get Andre Dawson's autograph and couldn't get near him, so I convinced my son that Lisa Fernandez' autograph was a pretty cool thing to get and, well, we couldn't dis the tall blonde standing next to Fernandez by not asking for her autograph as well, so we got it. Actually, it wasn't clear at the time that she was a softball player at all; I thought maybe she was some TV sitcom star they'd thrown into the game. Nobody'd heard of Jenny Finch at that time.

The threw Finch in at second base and, at one point, she handled the pivot on a double play and I told my son, "Well, whoever she is, she'll be able to tell her grandkids that she was the middle man in a double play between Ozzie Smith and Pete Rose." As the video shows, I guess she's picked up a few more famous friends since then, although the way Barry was hitting on her was a bit creepy.

We still have that autographed ball prominently displayed next to our two favorites -- one by Hall of Famer Bob Feller and the other by HiddenGem.

tomstoneradio
08-18-2007, 09:28 AM
I'd take her deep.:p

I bet...

Wait, we're still talking about baseball right...:D

hiddengem
08-18-2007, 01:47 PM
I bet...

Wait, we're still talking about baseball right...:D

Baseball? who is talking about baseball?

tomstoneradio
08-18-2007, 03:36 PM
Baseball? who is talking about baseball?

Exactly...;)

Doug Miller
08-19-2007, 10:19 AM
I believe that's a baulk.;)


That being said, she would probably be the all-time wins leader if she lived (and they let her play) in the 1880's......

My un-pro advice would be swing above the ball, as it's rising in on you.

I'm just shocked that Richie Sexson swung and missed... shocked.... <sarcasm>.

Doug

sharrock
08-19-2007, 11:45 AM
Oh yea..I REALLY enjoy my offseasons. I'm going to hit the lake with the jetski's and friends boats until the weather cools off. Then I transition into winter recreation..camping, offroading ect. I'll take a few weeks off, then start lifting again...Wont do anything baseball wise until after Thanksgiving usually.

Cool, the Fall is the best part of the year. Always curious about the routines of those lucky enough to play baseball for a living.

hiddengem
08-19-2007, 11:46 PM
Cool, the Fall is the best part of the year. Always curious about the routines of those lucky enough to play baseball for a living.

You just hope you can play long enough and get far enough, to make it a "living".

Aside from the players signing bonus you won't make much money until you are a free agent or get called up to the big leagues.

If a player plays his first 6 years in the minor leagues without getting called up, the most he'll make in a season is around $12k. That means you get a job in the offseason or play winter ball to make ends meet.

bigtime39
08-20-2007, 01:30 PM
You just hope you can play long enough and get far enough, to make it a "living".

Aside from the players signing bonus you won't make much money until you are a free agent or get called up to the big leagues.

If a player plays his first 6 years in the minor leagues without getting called up, the most he'll make in a season is around $12k. That means you get a job in the offseason or play winter ball to make ends meet.

HG:
What's your contract status for next season?

hiddengem
08-20-2007, 11:27 PM
HG:
What's your contract status for next season?

Day to day.

sharrock
08-21-2007, 10:33 AM
You just hope you can play long enough and get far enough, to make it a "living".

Aside from the players signing bonus you won't make much money until you are a free agent or get called up to the big leagues.

If a player plays his first 6 years in the minor leagues without getting called up, the most he'll make in a season is around $12k. That means you get a job in the offseason or play winter ball to make ends meet.
It does seem to be 'boom or bust' financially. Of course one could do worse than playing ball, but we all have enough needs, money wise, that I'm sure it ends up being a compromise in order to pursue it.

hiddengem
08-21-2007, 11:09 AM
It does seem to be 'boom or bust' financially. Of course one could do worse than playing ball, but we all have enough needs, money wise, that I'm sure it ends up being a compromise in order to pursue it.


For most its either boom or bust yes. But if you are fortunate enough to hang around as long as I have, you can make decent money in the minor leagues. The key is making it to Free agency and being wanted by other clubs after that.

Its not uncommon for a guy like me to bring in 10-12k/month in the minors. I remember when I made 5k for an entire season.

ChrisLDuncan
08-21-2007, 01:29 PM
HG, the off season is coming and there are plenty of awful teams out there that need a MINF, which do you think gives you the best chance of starting? Also how would you feel about playing first base for the Yankees? I've seen your MiLB stats and I'm not all that big on Andy Phillips, also you would provide much more depth to the teams INF than Andy does. You should try to talk to Ca$h.


Another question: is it an insult to be called an AAAA player?

hiddengem
08-21-2007, 10:43 PM
HG, the off season is coming and there are plenty of awful teams out there that need a MINF, which do you think gives you the best chance of starting? Also how would you feel about playing first base for the Yankees? I've seen your MiLB stats and I'm not all that big on Andy Phillips, also you would provide much more depth to the teams INF than Andy does. You should try to talk to Ca$h.


Another question: is it an insult to be called an AAAA player?

I don't know..we'll see what kind of interest we get in the offseason. I really liked my time in Anaheim and wouldn't mind going back there. We'll just have to see if they have a need for a guy like me. IMO I'm pretty valuable to a team, so I've got to believe there will be some interest, especially after the way I've played this year. Had a pretty tough role and still came out ok.

Nobody in pro ball wants to be a AAAA guy, but being a AAAA guy means you were better than millions of players that never had the opportunity to play pro ball, but not quite as good as others.

But often times guys that are labled a AAAA guy, never got their chance to show they couldn't do it up there. A guy like myself, might be labled a AAAA guy, but how could that be when I've never had the opportunity to prove that?

ChrisLDuncan
08-21-2007, 10:54 PM
I don't know..we'll see what kind of interest we get in the offseason. I really liked my time in Anaheim and wouldn't mind going back there. We'll just have to see if they have a need for a guy like me. IMO I'm pretty valuable to a team, so I've got to believe there will be some interest, especially after the way I've played this year. Had a pretty tough role and still came out ok.

Nobody in pro ball wants to be a AAAA guy, but being a AAAA guy means you were better than millions of players that never had the opportunity to play pro ball, but not quite as good as others.

But often times guys that are labled a AAAA guy, never got their chance to show they couldn't do it up there. A guy like myself, might be labled a AAAA guy, but how could that be when I've never had the opportunity to prove that?


What about a guy like Andy Phillips? Also you never answered the question about being the Yankees starting 1B/UTIL :D ?


Though I do agree, a versatile player such as yourself who is a true professional and can play a the infield and produce at a good level is a very valuable commodity to teams. Injuries are a bitch and it's always nice to have depth

Ursa Major
08-21-2007, 11:42 PM
Chris Duncan said: Also you never answered the question about being the Yankees starting 1B/UTILChris, I think it's a fine line between answering our questions candidly and getting into the realm of improper casting about for offers outside your organization. While HG probably can answer for himself, perhaps it's best to say that, as of today, he's a member of the Rangers organization and has represented his current team and that organization splendidly this year. Since, as far as I know, HG hasn't played first base in years, I wouldn't expect that the Yankees would make an offer to turn him into one.

Speaking of HG's splendid season, it seems as though the Redhawks realized that a third baseman hitting .148 just wasn't cutting it and started HG there. HG responded with a three hit night, including a home run, to help lead his team to a 10-2 victory. Nice job!

It is odd that the Rangers, who have only three infielders on their roster (they've been bringing in an outfielder or catcher to play first base for them), wouldn't think of bringing up their top slugging AAA infielder to spot start and back up the current starters, especially since they're near the bottom of the AL stats in batting average and OBP.

hiddengem
08-22-2007, 08:44 AM
What about a guy like Andy Phillips? Also you never answered the question about being the Yankees starting 1B/UTIL :D ?



Ursa Major is my attorney, you can reach him for comment;)

hiddengem
08-22-2007, 08:46 AM
Speaking of HG's splendid season, it seems as though the Redhawks realized that a third baseman hitting .148 just wasn't cutting it and started HG there. HG responded with a three hit night, including a home run, to help lead his team to a 10-2 victory. Nice job!

It is odd that the Rangers, who have only three infielders on their roster (they've been bringing in an outfielder or catcher to play first base for them), wouldn't think of bringing up their top slugging AAA infielder to spot start and back up the current starters, especially since they're near the bottom of the AL stats in batting average and OBP.

Yea, and after the game last night, Desi and I were informed that the .148 hitting infielder was recalled to the big leagues on standby in case Young is DL'd. Such is the politics of the game.

Honus Wagner Rules
08-22-2007, 10:57 AM
Yea, and after the game last night, Desi and I were informed that the .148 hitting infielder was recalled to the big leagues on standby in case Young is DL'd. Such is the politics of the game.
This crap really burns me. Unfortunately, most major league clubs worship at the alter of the "proven veteran". It really ticks me off that guys like you, hiddengem, are not given a chance to prove yourself in the majors simply because you are not 24 years old anymore. That's crap! There are many triple A guys that given the chance can be productive major leaguers. I wish more teams like the Oakland A's (see Jack Cust) would give you guys a chance.

I still say you should check out playing opportunities in Japan. ;)

ChrisLDuncan
08-22-2007, 02:12 PM
Ursa Major is my attorney, you can reach him for comment;)

That's cool but I hope you didn't take offense to what I said, I was being totally serious. You mentioned "day to day contract" status, so I was under the impression that you were a FA after this season so I was looking to a productive player like your self who can provide better offense than Andy Phillips, and depth to the Yankees bench.


Also, how many relievers do you think should be in the pen?

Zito75
08-22-2007, 02:32 PM
This crap really burns me. Unfortunately, most major league clubs worship at the alter of the "proven veteran". It really ticks me off that guys like you, hiddengem, are not given a chance to prove yourself in the majors simply because you are not 24 years old anymore. That's crap! There are many triple A guys that given the chance can be productive major leaguers. I wish more teams like the Oakland A's (see Jack Cust) would give you guys a chance.


Ironically, I had the privilage to speak with one of HG's former teammates he had in Houston. He was in town with Colorado Springs last night. He said the very same thing- that he's frustrated with being in AAA when he is plently capable of throwing in the bigs. I too mentioned that Oakland would be a good club to catch on with, not that I am biased or anything. =) None the less, it's too bad that players like he and HG are "casualties" of the game. I can see how that would be frustrating- especially seeing a .158 hitter getting the call.

Honus Wagner Rules
08-22-2007, 05:06 PM
Ironically, I had the privilage to speak with one of HG's former teammates he had in Houston. He was in town with Colorado Springs last night. He said the very same thing- that he's frustrated with being in AAA when he is plently capable of throwing in the bigs. I too mentioned that Oakland would be a good club to catch on with, not that I am biased or anything. =) None the less, it's too bad that players like he and HG are "casualties" of the game. I can see how that would be frustrating- especially seeing a .158 hitter getting the call.
Bill James calls these kind of players, "Ken Phelps" players. Here is how Bill James decribes them:


Ken Phelpses are just available; if you want one, all you have to do is ask. They are players whose real limitations are exaggerated by baseball insiders, players who get stuck with a label -- the label of their limits, the label the things they can't do -- while those that they can do are overlooked... The Ken Phelps All-Stars [are] a whole teamful of guys who are wearing labels, but who nonetheless can play major-league baseball, and will prove it if they ever get the chance.

Euribel Durazo and Jack Cust are "Ken Phelps".

RuthMayBond
08-22-2007, 05:27 PM
Bill James calls these kind of players, "Ken Phelps" players. Here is how Bill James decribes them:



Euribel Durazo and Jack Cust are "Ken Phelps".Mike Easler for WAY too many years

Zito75
08-22-2007, 05:47 PM
Mike Easler for WAY too many years

Perfect example.

Alan Zinter might fall in this case as well.

Ursa Major
08-22-2007, 08:11 PM
HiddenGem said: Yea, and after the game last night, Desi and I were informed that the .148 hitting infielder was recalled to the big leagues on standby in case Young is DL'd. Such is the politics of the game.And that .148 hitter had a grand slam tonight as part of Texas' record setting 30-run output in thrashing the Orioles. Go figure. And they'll probably think he's some kind of magic talisman now and want to keep him around.

Well, maybe HG hits better when he's p.o.'d or has reason to be. Had an even better night last night than last night, going 4 for 5 with his second homer in as many nights. (That's 10 for the season.) Given that the Giants starting infield (excepting first base) is batting a collective .241 and their backup is batting .222, I think we could use someone like HG here really badly. And, given that the average age of those starting infielders is 55 or thereabouts, they are not going to be getting any better.

Ursa Major
08-22-2007, 08:19 PM
Chris Duncan said: That's cool but I hope you didn't take offense to what I said, I was being totally serious. You mentioned "day to day contract" status, so I was under the impression that you were a FA after this season so I was looking to a productive player like your self who can provide better offense than Andy Phillips, and depth to the Yankees bench.
Chris, I think you missed the point I was trying to make. Yes, HG may be a free agent, but it's considered tacky (at best) to publicly be casting covetous eyes toward another organization while you're still playing for the team that is paying your salary.

Y'know, if you're on a date with you fiancee and, under the law, are perfectly within your rights to cancel the engagement at any time, you don't say to your ostensible bride-to-be, "Honey, if for some reason the wedding doesn't go through for us, I sure wouldn't mind playing hide-the-salami with that hot blonde over there by the bar." :choke:

ChrisLDuncan
08-22-2007, 08:23 PM
Chris, I think you missed the point I was trying to make. Yes, HG may be a free agent, but it's considered tacky (at best) to publicly be casting covetous eyes toward another organization while you're still playing for the team that is paying your salary.

Y'know, if you're on a date with you fiancee and, under the law, are perfectly within your rights to cancel the engagement at any time, you don't say to your ostensible bride-to-be, "Honey, if for some reason the wedding doesn't go through for us, I sure wouldn't mind playing hide-the-salami with that hot blonde over there by the bar." :choke:

Oh I get it, I just didn't know that he couldn't talk about it and hoped he didn't take offense to what I said. :waving

Go Cardinals
08-22-2007, 10:24 PM
Hg, don't you wish that you were with the team when they killed the Rangers. Everyone on that team (hitters) had a good hitting day....lol....

Go Cardinals
08-22-2007, 10:28 PM
Yea, and after the game last night, Desi and I were informed that the .148 hitting infielder was recalled to the big leagues on standby in case Young is DL'd. Such is the politics of the game.

HG if that was Metcalf.....he had a great 2 days. But if it was the guy who you were talking about, the politcs sound dumb. What are the odds of a .183 (hope thats right) hitter doing that? It sounds dumb! They should of called you up!

hiddengem
08-22-2007, 10:53 PM
That's cool but I hope you didn't take offense to what I said, I was being totally serious. You mentioned "day to day contract" status, so I was under the impression that you were a FA after this season so I was looking to a productive player like your self who can provide better offense than Andy Phillips, and depth to the Yankees bench.


Also, how many relievers do you think should be in the pen?

Its just not the right thing to do on an open forum or anywhere for that matter. Right now I'm employed by the Rangers and they have negotiating rights with me until sometime in October I believe. In my eyes I've played really well this year, and I dont' think its gone unnoticed. It will be very interesting to see if they offer me a contract for next year or let me go to Free Agency.


I don't really pay attention to pitching since i dont do it, but I'd say 6 or 7 relievers is normal.

hiddengem
08-22-2007, 10:54 PM
Hg, don't you wish that you were with the team when they killed the Rangers. Everyone on that team (hitters) had a good hitting day....lol....


You mean killed the Orioles? Sure, but I was here in Nashville when we handed it to The Sounds;)

hiddengem
08-22-2007, 10:57 PM
And that .148 hitter had a grand slam tonight as part of Texas' record setting 30-run output in thrashing the Orioles. Go figure. And they'll probably think he's some kind of magic talisman now and want to keep him around.



This game is so crazy..The guy was really being humbled here in AAA. Just have a really tough go, felt bad for the guy.

Gets called up and and in like 3 Ab's puts up 8 RBI's, the total amount he had here in like 50+ Ab's. Many Many folks will argue that its often times easier to hit in the big leagues than it is in AAA. This kind of stuff doesn't suprise me.

brewcrew82
08-23-2007, 02:08 AM
You mean killed the Orioles? Sure, but I was here in Nashville when we handed it to The Sounds;)

For some strange reason I decided not to listen to the Sounds game online today, whilst I'm not upset at missing the loss I'm a bit disappointed I missed your big day at the plate. Congrats! :clapping

My reason for posting is to find out your thoughts on Greer Stadium. The lack of a new stadium in Nashville could force the Sounds to leave the city. I want to know if it's really that bad of a venue?

bigtime39
08-23-2007, 01:16 PM
Circling back to the Ken Phelps thing...and the Orioles!
One thing that has infuriated the folks at Orioles Hangout is the way Jon Knott, JR House and others have been "left to rot" in Norfolk while light-hitting "glove men" have populated the Orioles bench.
Personally, I find it hard to believe that a team like KC or Florida...dealing with major budget constraints, wouldn't shake the "Ken Phelps" tree and put together a bunch of cheap, hungry platoon guys, and see if they can cover each others weaknesses at the ML level.

hiddengem
08-23-2007, 01:59 PM
For some strange reason I decided not to listen to the Sounds game online today, whilst I'm not upset at missing the loss I'm a bit disappointed I missed your big day at the plate. Congrats! :clapping

My reason for posting is to find out your thoughts on Greer Stadium. The lack of a new stadium in Nashville could force the Sounds to leave the city. I want to know if it's really that bad of a venue?


It is hands down the worst stadium in either AAA league, period. The actual playing surface isn't that bad, but the amenities around it are atrocious.

Our clubhouse is about the size of a large hotel room. We have to fit 24 guys and 5 staff members in it.

hiddengem
08-23-2007, 02:03 PM
Circling back to the Ken Phelps thing...and the Orioles!
One thing that has infuriated the folks at Orioles Hangout is the way Jon Knott, JR House and others have been "left to rot" in Norfolk while light-hitting "glove men" have populated the Orioles bench.
Personally, I find it hard to believe that a team like KC or Florida...dealing with major budget constraints, wouldn't shake the "Ken Phelps" tree and put together a bunch of cheap, hungry platoon guys, and see if they can cover each others weaknesses at the ML level.

My term for "Ken Phelps'" are "Baseball players". Organizations don't have enough "Baseball Players" they have way too many guys that look good in a uniform or hit the heck out of the ball in BP, but don't really know "how" to play the game.

bigtime39
08-23-2007, 02:25 PM
My term for "Ken Phelps'" are "Baseball players". Organizations don't have enough "Baseball Players" they have way too many guys that look good in a uniform or hit the heck out of the ball in BP, but don't really know "how" to play the game.

Where do you see this problem coming from? Field managers or the front office? Referring back to the post you responded to, I just don't understand why the same guys keep turning up on MLB rosters over and over again, and often drawing absurd salaries (think Jay Payton on this years Orioles), while guys like yourself have hit baseball's version of the glass ceiling at AAA...

Zito75
08-23-2007, 04:27 PM
It is hands down the worst stadium in either AAA league, period. The actual playing surface isn't that bad, but the amenities around it are atrocious.

Our clubhouse is about the size of a large hotel room. We have to fit 24 guys and 5 staff members in it.

Funny... How would you rate Tucson Electric Park? The playing surface looks scorched, especially in shallow right. I went down to the visitors clubhouse last year and it reminded me of a dungeon or something. I thought the coolest feature was the Red Bull machine... :laugh

brewcrew82
08-23-2007, 05:34 PM
It is hands down the worst stadium in either AAA league, period. The actual playing surface isn't that bad, but the amenities around it are atrocious.

Our clubhouse is about the size of a large hotel room. We have to fit 24 guys and 5 staff members in it.

Thanks.

That bad huh? Now I understand why there is/was so much urgency to get a new stadium deal done...Those plans seem to be dead in the water.

hiddengem
08-23-2007, 10:04 PM
Where do you see this problem coming from? Field managers or the front office? Referring back to the post you responded to, I just don't understand why the same guys keep turning up on MLB rosters over and over again, and often drawing absurd salaries (think Jay Payton on this years Orioles), while guys like yourself have hit baseball's version of the glass ceiling at AAA...


It all comes down to that stupid Label. The way this game is run from the inside is far from a science. Jay Payton has a big league name, I don't. Although I was the subject of the Trivia question at the game tonight;)

hiddengem
08-23-2007, 10:06 PM
Funny... How would you rate Tucson Electric Park? The playing surface looks scorched, especially in shallow right. I went down to the visitors clubhouse last year and it reminded me of a dungeon or something. I thought the coolest feature was the Red Bull machine... :laugh

Playing surface in the middle of the summer is garbage in Tucson. The visitors Clubhouse in Tucson is upstairs, you can actually walk right into it from the top of the concourse. Doesn't feel like a dungeon at all, actually its pretty decent. Are you sure you didn't go into a storage room?:laugh

hiddengem
08-23-2007, 10:08 PM
Thanks.

That bad huh? Now I understand why there is/was so much urgency to get a new stadium deal done...Those plans seem to be dead in the water.

Yea, they can't close this place down fast enough. MLB actually did a walk through of the stadium and the clubhouses and had a long list of infractions they had to fix.

Ursa Major
08-24-2007, 02:31 AM
Hiddengem said: Although I was the subject of the Trivia question at the game tonight...Let me guess... Did the question begin: "Name one of two Houston Astros to homer in his ...." ???

bigtime39
08-24-2007, 08:52 AM
It all comes down to that stupid Label. The way this game is run from the inside is far from a science. Jay Payton has a big league name, I don't. Although I was the subject of the Trivia question at the game tonight;)

Congrats on being the trivia question!
Assuming that you don't re-up with the Rangers next season (and we're assuming that purely for the purpose of asking this question) how would you go about selling yourself to a potential team? Is there a way you can remove the Label, other than a successful callup?

Zito75
08-24-2007, 10:03 AM
The visitors Clubhouse in Tucson is upstairs, you can actually walk right into it from the top of the concourse. Doesn't feel like a dungeon at all, actually its pretty decent. Are you sure you didn't go into a storage room?:laugh

(laughs) Maybe... We went to a World Series party there hosted by the owner Jay Zucker. Even though a had a few drinks and stuff, I just remembered going down some stairs and the clubhouse area with the chairs, etc wasn't very well lit. I guess I am mistaken, seemed like it was closer to the field level. But you're right, the playing surface is terrible. It's no wonder to me the team is moving after next season. They had a crowd of 900 a couple nights ago when I went.

brewcrew82
08-24-2007, 10:06 AM
It's no wonder to me the team is moving after next season.

Not to highjack the thread but any word as to where they will be moving to?

hiddengem
08-24-2007, 11:35 AM
Let me guess... Did the question begin: "Name one of two Houston Astros to homer in his ...." ???


Not quite.."He hit a HR in his first AB blah blah blah...what team did he hit it off?"

hiddengem
08-24-2007, 11:38 AM
Congrats on being the trivia question!
Assuming that you don't re-up with the Rangers next season (and we're assuming that purely for the purpose of asking this question) how would you go about selling yourself to a potential team? Is there a way you can remove the Label, other than a successful callup?


I feel like I've had one of my better seasons is quite sometime this year. That being said, I'm not going to "sell" myself to anybody. If come this offseason there is little interest and I'm getting the feeling that I'll be signing just to fill a minor league roster, than I might be doing something else. I've got other things already lined up.

hiddengem
08-24-2007, 11:40 AM
(laughs) Maybe... We went to a World Series party there hosted by the owner Jay Zucker. Even though a had a few drinks and stuff, I just remembered going down some stairs and the clubhouse area with the chairs, etc wasn't very well lit. I guess I am mistaken, seemed like it was closer to the field level. But you're right, the playing surface is terrible. It's no wonder to me the team is moving after next season. They had a crowd of 900 a couple nights ago when I went.

Not the same place. You were probably in the umpires locker room:laugh

bigtime39
08-24-2007, 12:06 PM
I feel like I've had one of my better seasons is quite sometime this year. That being said, I'm not going to "sell" myself to anybody. If come this offseason there is little interest and I'm getting the feeling that I'll be signing just to fill a minor league roster, than I might be doing something else. I've got other things already lined up.

HG:
Would you stay in the sport, or move on to "real life"?

hiddengem
08-24-2007, 01:25 PM
HG:
Would you stay in the sport, or move on to "real life"?

My agent wants to hire me when my playing days are over, so I'd still be in the game.

Got a call this morning and there may be some interest for Japan or Korea next yr. We'll see.

bigtime39
08-24-2007, 01:36 PM
My agent wants to hire me when my playing days are over, so I'd still be in the game.

Got a call this morning and there may be some interest for Japan or Korea next yr. We'll see.

I'd have to say if I got the opportunity to play in Japan for a season or so, I'd take it...but nobody's ever going to ask me! :laugh

tomstoneradio
08-24-2007, 01:43 PM
I'd have to say if I got the opportunity to play in Japan for a season or so, I'd take it...but nobody's ever going to ask me! :laugh

If I got the opportunity to play professionally ANYWHERE, I'd take it...I'd probably take it even if it was only for a week...but like you, nobody's askin me either! ;)

Zito75
08-24-2007, 03:24 PM
Not to highjack the thread but any word as to where they will be moving to?

Yeah they are moving to Reno... I had the chance to work in the 'Winders front office- now I'm glad I didn't do it.

ChrisLDuncan
08-24-2007, 03:26 PM
My agent wants to hire me when my playing days are over, so I'd still be in the game.

Got a call this morning and there may be some interest for Japan or Korea next yr. We'll see.

Have you ever considered managing, bench/hitting/3rd/1stbase coach, or a job in the front office?

Honus Wagner Rules
08-24-2007, 06:03 PM
Got a call this morning and there may be some interest for Japan or Korea next yr. We'll see.
What?! Really?! That's awesome. I think you are exactly the kind of player that would do well in Japan. I've spent some time in Japan and it is a beautiful country, clean, safe, friendly people. And they love their baseball over there. Perhaps you can be another Bobby Rose...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Rose_(baseball)

hiddengem
08-24-2007, 11:02 PM
Have you ever considered managing, bench/hitting/3rd/1stbase coach, or a job in the front office?

Yea, I've been asked by quite a few scouts if I'd consider coaching. I would if it was the right situation. I'm really not excited about doing the minor league thing all over again as a coach. But if I could coach in a city close to home, I'd consider it. Not sure about the front office.

hiddengem
08-24-2007, 11:03 PM
What?! Really?! That's awesome. I think you are exactly the kind of player that would do well in Japan. I've spent some time in Japan and it is a beautiful country, clean, safe, friendly people. And they love their baseball over there. Perhaps you can be another Bobby Rose...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Rose_(baseball)

Yea, I was there in 97 with the USA team. Pretty cool place, very crowed with people. I think I would adapt well over there.

Old Sweater
09-04-2007, 05:03 AM
The trap play you like to do helped the Rockies win a tight one.

Thought of you as soon as Tulowitzki done it.

Colorado third baseman Ian Stewart (right) stretches to tag out Arizona baserunner Justin Upton as Upton dives back after overrunning the base in the sixth inning Sunday in Phoenix, Ariz.

Rockies fill up in the desert
Colorado beats Arizona to take two of three in critical series.
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
PHOENIX - Colorado manager Clint Hurdle called it the ‘‘Tulo Trap.’’ Whatever it’s called, it helped the Rockies beat the Arizona Diamondbacks on Sunday.

hiddengem
09-06-2007, 11:45 PM
Hey hiddengem, you should get your stats put in

http://minors.baseball-reference.com/


They are already there.

hiddengem
09-06-2007, 11:46 PM
HG, how do players prevent what happened to Juan Encarnacion from happening to them (incase you don't know a foul ball drilled him in the face in the on deck circle)?

Watch the game and move out of the way of the ball if it comes at you.

hiddengem
09-06-2007, 11:48 PM
Hey HG, i've been reading this thread for a while but never posted in it. I was wondering if there was ever anything during a game that is piped through the speakers at a stadium (i'd say at home, because you are there the most) That gets annoying after hearing it all the time? (I don't mean walkup music, thats different)

Yea..that clip "Everybody clap your hands" clap clap clap clap clap..blah blah blah. I think our team played it 30 times in one 9 inning game.

hiddengem
09-07-2007, 12:35 PM
I noticed you've pitched two innings. I'm assuming it was mop up duty. How do they choose which players pitch in those situations? How hard can you throw? Did you throw any pitches other then a fast ball?

Were you worried at all about hurting your arm? I know Canseco apparently hurt his arm pitching mop up duty.

In all honesty they choose the players who the organization is least worried about with regards to injury. Meaning, they wouldn't put a top prospect or a big signing bonus guy out there, with the chance of injury.

I was mainly focusing on throwing strikes..I think I hit around 84 or so but I wasn't at all "letting it go". I think I threw 12 pitches in the last outing without throwing a ball. I threw changeup and curveball.

It was deffinetly a thought..I didn't want to go out there and blow out. Even after the 12 pitches and 30+ in the bullpen I was really sore for 2 days.

Macker
09-09-2007, 04:51 PM
At the request of hiddengem, this thread is closed for the season. On behalf of Fever members, I'd like to thank hiddengem for his participation. It's great to have the insight he provides us, and it's much appreciated how he takes the time to answer our questions about the workings of the game. Hopefully, we can continue this next year.