The Curse of Brooklyn

[D6+]

Nice touch, D6+! You have very quickly picked up the "hang of things" around here! :nod: :waving

Keep up the good work!

c.


Thanks, DODGER DEB.


Yesterday, after reading an article http://www.lacitybeat.com/article.php?id=4496&IssueNum=176 about the decline of the Left Coast Imposter franchise that you posted in another BBF Forum within the last several months, " The Curse of Brooklyn" came to mind.

Last night's Left Coast Imposter loss to the Florida Marlins is further proof that those in the Los Angeles area who want to see a local team win a World Championship in the future have only one alternative: Root for the Angels. Unless of course that the Left Coast Imposter franchise creates their own identity : no longer using the name " Dodgers ", the team colors, uniform designs, or anything else that should be exclusively Brooklyn's.

[D6+]

The 1959 World Series began on October 1 and ended on October 8.

My best guess is that the Talese article appeared in the October 9 edition of the Times.



EbtsFldGuy, thanks for mentioning this article. As it turned out, the article was indeed written on October 9. That was fitting to say the least.

Earlier this evening, I read the article online after paying a fee associated with reading the article online. Gay Talese did a good job illustrating the frustration level of Dodgers fans in Brooklyn during the 1959 World Series. The impression I got from Gay Talese's article is indifference was mixed in with frustration.


What surprised me the most when reading the article was most Dodgers fans in Brooklyn wanted the Left Coast Imposter group to win the World Series, even though they would never celebrate a Left Coast Imposter World Championship. In essence, they rooted for Gil Hodges, Duke Snider, and Carl Furillo, which isn't surprising.

In thinking about the situation now, it must have been the ultimate Catch-22 situation for passionate Dodgers fans. As much as I would have absolutely been thrilled to have been a part of the Dodgers scene before the team was hijacked to Los Angeles, I consider myself fortunate not to be alive during the 1958 and 1959 seasons. Especially, when reality must have sunk in that the Dodgers would no longer be playing in Brooklyn, as well as during the time of the 1959 World Series.

[DODGER DEB]

Thanks, DODGER DEB.


Yesterday, after reading an article http://www.lacitybeat.com/article.php?id=4496&IssueNum=176 about the decline of the Left Coast Imposter franchise that you posted in another BBF Forum within the last several months, " The Curse of Brooklyn" came to mind.

Last night's Left Coast Imposter loss to the Florida Marlins is further proof that those in the Los Angeles area who want to see a local team win a World Championship in the future have only one alternative: Root for the Angels. Unless of course that the Left Coast Imposter franchise creates their own identity : no longer using the name " Dodgers ", the team colors, uniform designs, or anything else that should be exclusively Brooklyn's.

Very good, D6+!

That group cannot survive with it's own identify, because it has none! That is why they stole everything that belongs to OUR DODGERS; OUR Team, OUR History, OUR Colors, OUR Uniforms, and OUR NAME!.

Most people have trouble dealing with, and accepting, the fact that THE CURSE of BROOKLYN will ultimately destroy them....but, it will! But, that won't bother McCourt, since the only reason he bought that group was for the land under Chavez Ravine. He literally dreams of the day when he can rid himself of that group and develop that land into Condos.

Stay tuned....

c.

[D6+]

Very good, D6+!

That group cannot survive with it's own identify, because it has none! That is why they stole everything that belongs to OUR DODGERS; OUR Team, OUR History, OUR Colors, OUR Uniforms, and OUR NAME!.

Most people have trouble dealing with, and accepting, the fact that THE CURSE of BROOKLYN will ultimately destroy them....but, it will! But, that won't bother McCourt, since the only reason he bought that group was for the land under Chavez Ravine. He literally dreams of the day when he can rid himself of that group and develop that land into Condos.

Stay tuned....



c.

DODGER DEB, I only hope that Rosalind Wyman and Melvin Durslag live long enough to see Frank McCourt turn Chavez Ravine into Condos. It can't happen soon enough.


In addition to everything else, it's sickening to see media members and fans of the LA Imposter group associate the nickname " Bums" with their team. Part of the blame for this should be on the late Danny Kaye, as a result of his song about the LA Imposter Franchise in the early 1960's. The way Danny Kaye supported Walter O' Malley, it's hard to even imagine that Kaye had long time Brooklyn roots.

[D6+]

Regarding the CURSE of BROOKYLN, it's taking an additional form. The American League has now won 10 straight All-Star games. Because the winning league of the All-Star game gets home field advantage in the World Series, the result of the All-Star game now has significance beyond bragging rights. Fans of the other 15 teams in the National League only need to look towards Los Angeles to see their current All-Star game plight. ;)

[penncentralpete]

i remember well that 1959 world series, and how it literally ripped my heart out. to watch duke hit his final WS homer, and the team winning the series just wounded me. i was thinking over and over again, WHY NOT IN BROOKLYN?????? BTW, when the LA "imposters" swept the skankees later in '63, i had many of the same feelings. DAMN!!!!! pete

[D6+]

i remember well that 1959 world series, and how it literally ripped my heart out. to watch duke hit his final WS homer, and the team winning the series just wounded me. i was thinking over and over again, WHY NOT IN BROOKLYN?????? BTW, when the LA "imposters" swept the skankees later in '63, i had many of the same feelings. DAMN!!!!! pete


I can't even imagine how difficult it must have been for you and other passionate Brooklyn Dodgers fans who watched or listened to the 1959 and/ or 1963 World Series. Just even thinking about the 1959 World Series and what lead up to it, is painful.

[Brownie31]

The Curse lives!;)

Brownie31

[DODGER DEB]

The Curse lives!;)

Brownie31


Now, that's good, Brownie!

I am sure the good Professor would love it!

c.

[D6+]

The Curse lives!;)

Brownie31


This is terrific. Thanks, Brownie31!


Thank you Diamondbacks, Rockies ( what a story in their own right), and Padres!

[dodger dynamo]

you know curses are a funny thing ( the real ones, if there are any ) they probably happen by chance, the stars have to be right, the words have to be right and the most seemingly harmless thing can bring them about. If there are real curses. It probably happens all by chance and that's why once your stuck with one, no one knows how to really end it, because no one knows how it really started. not to get off topic, but I believe the year the red sox won the series, I could be wrong about the timing, they tore down the house that ruth used to live in when he was in boston. If that's true, Isn't it very odd. battlin bake the dodger dynamo

[Brownie31]

Now, that's good, Brownie!

I am sure the good Professor would love it!

c.

Glad you liked it!

Brownie31

[Brownie31]

This is terrific. Thanks, Brownie31!


Thank you Diamondbacks, Rockies ( what a story in their own right), and Padres!

You are welcome! My pleasure!

Brownie31

[DODGER DEB]

As a welcome back to US, Professor, I think "The Curse of BROOKLYN" needs to be adjusted somewhat, considering the events of the past few days. :nod:

Go for it!

c.

[donzblock]

The events of the past few days? The entrance of O'Malley into the hell of fame? The Curse could not prevent that. It was not programmed to prevent that. But the idea of Walter frying while LA continues to burn adds a nice little ironic touch to the agonies that the left coast team will be enduring for the next century.

The Curse was responsible for the acquisition of Andruw Jones, however: $18 million for each of the next two years. Did Mr. Jones knock in 100 runs last year? Did his batting average manage to get above .220? In spending that much on over-the-hill Andruw, the LA team will have that much less to spend in other areas where it needs help. And it needs quite a bit.

Wasn't 2007 fun? Wasn't it delightful to watch the LA team ground to pieces by the Curse, its massive molars munching away purposefully, leaving nothing but bleached bones moldering and mulching in the midday sun.

[DODGER DEB]

The events of the past few days? The entrance of O'Malley into the hell of fame? The Curse could not prevent that. It was not programmed to prevent that. But the idea of Walter frying while LA continues to burn adds a nice little ironic touch to the agonies that the left coast team will be enduring for the next century.

The Curse was responsible for the acquisition of Andruw Jones, however: $18 million for each of the next two years. Did Mr. Jones knock in 100 runs last year? Did his batting average manage to get above .220? In spending that much on over-the-hill Andruw, the LA team will have that much less to spend in other areas where it needs help. And it needs quite a bit.

Wasn't 2007 fun? Wasn't it delightful to watch the LA team ground to pieces by the Curse, its massive molars munching away purposefully, leaving nothing but bleached bones moldering and mulching in the midday sun.

Delighted to say, Professor you haven't lost your touch.

c.

[donzblock]

The Curse will make those who root for the LA Abomination joyful that it has acquired Andruw Jones. The GM will be praised. Stats will be cited. And--most important--hope will be rekindled. And they will look forward eagerly to a glorious 2008. And then the season will begin. And the real fun will start.

So shall it be. Thus it is written.

[Bklyn Boy since 1936]

The Curse will make those who root for the LA Abomination joyful that it has acquired Andruw Jones. The GM will be praised. Stats will be cited. And--most important--hope will be rekindled. And they will look forward eagerly to a glorious 2008. And then the season will begin. And the real fun will start.

So shall it be. Thus it is written.

:bowdown:And a big AMEN!!!

[jaykay]

Delighted to say, Professor you haven't lost your touch.

c.

I wonder if those of you who have become regulars on this forum during the past few months realize the significance of the return of Professor Don Z Block to our midst. True, the Archives tell no lies, but the path to their accessibilities can become something of a maze, whereas the Professor's words of wisdom, counsel and challenge should be readily available at the.....well, at the touch of a button. Hopefully, such will be the case for many moons to come. Don Z Block, though very young at heart, was (and is) a charter member of this Baseball Fever group, even before it found a home on Baseball Fever. He is not to be tangled with unless you know exactly what you are talking about. He is not called the Professor (and many other names) for nothing. I could go on, but why ask you to settle for a proxy when the real thing is once again among us. And so, Professor Block, in the immortal words of Count Dracula, "I bid you welcome."

[DODGER DEB]

I wonder if those of you who have become regulars on this forum during the past few months realize the significance of the return of Professor Don Z Block to our midst. True, the Archives tell no lies, but the path to their accessibilities can become something of a maze, whereas the Professor's words of wisdom, counsel and challenge should be readily available at the.....well, at the touch of a button. Hopefully, such will be the case for many moons to come. Don Z Block, though very young at heart, was (and is) a charter member of this Baseball Fever group, even before it found a home on Baseball Fever. He is not to be tangled with unless you know exactly what you are talking about. He is not called the Professor (and many other names) for nothing. I could go on, but why ask you to settle for a proxy when the real thing is once again among us. And so, Professor Block, in the immortal words of Count Dracula, "I bid you welcome."

.....and, WE also welcome you back, jaykay!

It's wonderful to have the "old gang" re-group. :applaud:

c.

[shlevine42]

Well...with Professor Block AND Jaykay back in the starting lineup, maybe it's time I came off the Inactive List.

Got room for another member of the "old gang?"

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

Well...with Professor Block AND Jaykay back in the starting lineup, maybe it's time I came off the Inactive List.

Got room for another member of the "old gang?"

Hello Shlevine42. Good to see you back. Where have you been hanging around?

[tonypug]

It's Deja vu all over again. Welcome back everyone.

[shlevine42]

Thanks for that, YBF.

Wasn't hanging around any place in particular. Just taking a rest from talkin' baseball and recharging the batteries so I could recover some of my early enthusiasm. And so that I wouldn't repeat myself.

[DODGER DEB]

Well...with Professor Block AND Jaykay back in the starting lineup, maybe it's time I came off the Inactive List.

Got room for another member of the "old gang?"

Now, my day is complete!

Good to have you back home again, shlevine!

c.

[tonypug]

Thanks for that, YBF.

Wasn't hanging around any place in particular. Just taking a rest from talkin' baseball and recharging the batteries so I could recover some of my early enthusiasm. And so that I wouldn't repeat myself.
You repeating yourself is new stuff to a lot of people, welcome back to the future.

[Shotgun Shuba]

I had been thinking about the whole Hall of Fame thing and how it should be handled, as I think many people were, and then this really wonderful thing happened. Many of the people who WERE this board have returned. I think that is great. I think it shows how the power of a cherished entity, like the Brooklyn Dodgers, does not ever die as long as people still remember it.

It is in that vein that I think Brooklyn fans should take this last opportunity in the national spotlight to make a lasting statement. I think jeering and booing is not the way to go. To applaud for O'Malley is ludicrous, of course, but there must be a some sort of Gandhi-like gesture that would have a more profound and lasting effect on the baseball world. Much like his "Salt March", Brooklyn fans should meet at the Cooperstown border and march to Lake Otsego, collecting supporters along the way and informing the public as to what really happened. This would be a classy way to make a statement.

[shlevine42]

You repeating yourself is new stuff to a lot of people, welcome back to the future.

Thanks. That's nice of you to say.

[donzblock]

....Brooklyn fans should take this last opportunity in the national spotlight to make a lasting statement. I think jeering and booing is not the way to go. To applaud for O'Malley is ludicrous, of course, but there must be a some sort of Gandhi-like gesture that would have a more profound and lasting effect on the baseball world. Much like his "Salt March", Brooklyn fans should meet at the Cooperstown border and march to Lake Otsego, collecting supporters along the way and informing the public as to what really happened. This would be a classy way to make a statement.
If we play Gandhi, who plays Great Britain? And is there a Pakistan along the borders? And if we play Gandhi, do we end up being shot?

[jaykay]

Now, my day is complete!

Good to have you back home again, shlevine!

c.

Oh, frabjous day! Words fail me! Brother shlevine AND Professor Block, simultaneously and at the same time! :bowdown: All right, Judge McCoy, you may as well step up and take a few swings yourself. That leaves only Jerry Stern AWOL, and if HE shows up I know I won't be able to cope. 'Tis the season to be jolly. My brother-in-law, the master psychologist, has declared that this is good therapy for all of us, and asked me to remind the Professor that a certain bill still has not been paid. But what the hey! It's Hanukkah, Christmas is coming, and this is surely the happiest New Year since last year. See you at the Rotunda.

[DODGER DEB]

Oh, frabjous day! Words fail me! Brother shlevine AND Professor Block, simultaneously and at the same time! :bowdown: All right, Judge McCoy, you may as well step up and take a few swings yourself. That leaves only Jerry Stern AWOL, and if HE shows up I know I won't be able to cope. 'Tis the season to be jolly. My brother-in-law, the master psychologist, has declared that this is good therapy for all of us, and asked me to remind the Professor that a certain bill still has not been paid. But what the hey! It's Hanukkah, Christmas is coming, and this is surely the happiest New Year since last year. See you at the Rotunda.

That bill is still unpaid? Heavens!

BTW, jaykay, are those dogs still green...or have they changed color after all this time? When was the last time you looked? Or, does the good Pofessor still have all the bulbs?

But, you are right, it is indeed a great day for all BROOKLYN DODGER FANS!

Don't ya just love it when a plan comes together!

c.

[Bklyn Boy since 1936]

:dance:clappingLET'S ALL SING ALONG ... anda 1, anda 2 ...:clapping:dance

Happy days are here again
The skies above are clear again
So let's sing a song of cheer again
Happy days are here again

Altogether shout it now There's no one
Who can doubt it now
So let's tell the world about it now
Happy days are here again

Your cares and troubles are gone
There'll be no more from now on
From now on ...
Happy days are here again

The skies above are clear again
So, Let's sing a song of cheer again
Happy times, Happy nights,
Happy days Are here again!

:dance:clappingWELCOME BACK YOU GUYS:clapping:dance

[Shotgun Shuba]

If we play Gandhi, who plays Great Britain? And is there a Pakistan along the borders? And if we play Gandhi, do we end up being shot?

Great Britiain is the Hall of Fame.

Pakistan was formed in 1947, long after the Salt March, so that is not applicable.

and, finally, my goodness, I hope nobody gets shot!

[donzblock]

Oh, frabjous day! Words fail me! Brother shlevine AND Professor Block, simultaneously and at the same time! :bowdown: All right, Judge McCoy, you may as well step up and take a few swings yourself. That leaves only Jerry Stern AWOL, and if HE shows up I know I won't be able to cope. 'Tis the season to be jolly. My brother-in-law, the master psychologist, has declared that this is good therapy for all of us, and asked me to remind the Professor that a certain bill still has not been paid. But what the hey! It's Hanukkah, Christmas is coming, and this is surely the happiest New Year since last year. See you at the Rotunda.
Oh, yes, the bill. It will be paid off as soon as I can sell off a property. The fact that the real estate market is dead is a problem, and so is the fact that the property is in Bayonne, NJ. Another problem with the bill is that every time I ask the master psychologist for tips on paying it off, he counts that as therapy and I owe more.

The Curse would somehow like to see those green dogs end up on the left coast. I have a theory that if an occupant of one of those seats ate one of those dogs, nothing would happen. But the vibes emitted by those things could conceivably make the Curse even more deadly.

Has anybody tried to trace the wellsprings of the Curse?

[donzblock]

As you can imagine, I have been deluged by requests to divulge the wellsprings of the Curse. (In fact, I have had to empty the PM box thrice.)

There is a notorious drinking fountain in Midwood High School (aka Bedford Avenue High) that spouts only foul smelling and rancid water. Numerous attempts to clean it up have failed, and as we speak it has risen to number 2 on the EPA's hazardous wastes list. Rumors have it that this fountain is fed by a pipeline from the Kill Van Kull. Unsuspecting freshmen have been frequently directed to this thing by sadistic upperclassmen, eager to see innocent, hapless humanity heave. In one of his many attempts to save the human race, Jaykay, at great personal risk, put up a Skull & Crossbones warning above it, but the sign quickly disappeared. After 1957, this fountain belched loudly and began to dispense even fouler water. About 50 years later, so noxious were the fumes emanating from it that I had to approach it wearing protective gear; but I did manage to collect a thermosful of this liquefied putrescence.

The scene shifts to the subways of the earth where Jaykay still guards the Rotunda. (Please ignore the fantasies he spun about the stewardship of this shrine.) Under the extraordinarily bright lights that frugal Jaykay infrequently turns on, he has been growing acres of carefully nurtured Ebbets Field sod--and nothing else, I have been assured. I used the throw-rug-sized sample he was generous enough to give me to--but I think I have said enough. One Curse will suffice. Nobody has to die. Revenge works best when the villains are aware of what is being done to them. When the Ravine swallows up the stadium, it must be as empty as it always is from the 7th inning on. When the tsunami refills the concrete basin that the natives jokingly refer to as the LA River, each left coaster must be equipped with a bathing suit and oxygen tank. And when LA ends up in Alaska, I don't want any of the Angelenos to fall into the Pacific during the trip. And won't it be wonderful when each left coast game is postponed by ice and the mudsliders end up playing all home games in Milwaukee.

Meanwhile, the Curse will satisfy itself and all Brooklyn Dodger fans by ensuring a century of bitter defeats and ultimate failure, and as long as the pipeline remains unbroken, the Curse may continue doing its devil's work into the 22nd century. As any Midwoodite will attest, there is no limit to these wellsprings.

[tonypug]

It is as if you had never left.

[Bklyn Boy since 1936]

As so elequently stated before ...
:bowdown:"So shall it be. Thus it is written.":bowdown:

[jaykay]

Well, I tried.

But two things should be noted. Those of a scientific bent, well versed in the exotica offered in obscure journals, are aware that the pungent, putrid Bedford Avenue water, when dribbled over green wieners, will restore their vitality, their rich brown original coloring, and their ability to multiply. Rumor has it that Jerry Stern passed his laboratory notes to one W. (for Wladisu, I believe) O'Malley, who experimented independently in search of yet a second ill-gotten fortune, until his untimely passing. He had a son, P. (for Philo, I believe) O'Malley who was instructed to destroy the notes if ever W. was elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame. So that, as you can see, is a dead issue now, regardless of your sentiments about any of the aforementioned.

The Ebbets Field grass was the subject of a lengthy discourse presented some years ago by jaykay (or an imposter, perhaps) on this very forum concerning Irwin Finkelstein's tragic effort to cultivate a crop from samples he had pilfered, an attempt which threatened possible success until a New York City summer drought led to strict limitations on watering, which in turn led to Irwin's desperate attempt to salvage the crop with seawater, thereby terminating both the precious samples and Irwin's questionable hold on mental health. It's all there in the Archives or in cyberspace - take your pick.

But really, guys, this was all so long ago, and so much water (fresh, salt, putrid) has passed under the (Brooklyn) bridge, I'm at a loss to explain why Professor Block would even bring it up. Yet...he's funny that way, as we oldtimers can attest. Be patient, and he may come out of it.

[donzblock]

Oh, that's right. The last sample of Ebbets Field grass was destroyed by Irwin when he tried to use seawater. I understand. I understand completely. There is no more Ebbets Field grass. How could I have forgotten that? (That stuff that occasionally is sold on the street is not what we are talking about and has no connection to Jaykay.) I've been away a long time.

But the Kill Van Kull remains, and so does the Arthur Kill, and both are backed up by the Irving and Seymour Kills. And the Curse remains, well nourished, ever lethal, and oh so patient.

[Mattingly]

Well...with Professor Block AND Jaykay back in the starting lineup, maybe it's time I came off the Inactive List.

Got room for another member of the "old gang?"
I haven't been around here as much, but I for one am glad to see yourself, Donz and Jaykay back. It's good seeing all of you return.

I do hope that you all stay around and show more of the wonderful ways of Brooklyn that I'd missed in my youth. :)

[donzblock]

The horrors in Peter Jackson's "Ring" trilogy--the spider, the orks, the golem, the lips chewing food, the Fire Thing, the dragons, Frodo's acting, etc.--are baby teeth compared to the razor sharp canines of the Curse. If your stomach is weak, avert your eyes for the next century.

[Spirit of '55]

Friends:

As the possessor of many ancient grimoires of the Arts Magickal, I have begun researching the actual incantation of the Curse.

It has been an interesting experience so far...

Last night, three Ghosts of Christmas appeared, the Easter Bunny stopped by for tea, the Tooth Fairy sent me a fax, Britney Spears' sister came up pregnant (for which I take NO credit, thank you!), and I WAS able to raise Mr. Ruth's ghost, who wept when I told him what Steinbrenner was doing.

(He already knew about the Sox winning twice, and informed me that The Curse of Brooklyn has crossed the northern waters and doomed the Yankees to 100 years of defeat in their new home. He also promised to tell Lou and the Yankee Clipper what was up, and predicted THREE hundred years of ignominy as a result, much of it at the hands of the BROOKLYN Dodgers---this may be a sign of things to come.)

So far, I have recovered just a few lines, the beginning and the end:

"Double, double toil and trouble;
Cauldron boil and cauldron bubble..."

and

"Cool it with O'Money's blood,
Then the charm is firm and good."


Still working on it, forsooth! :homeplate:

[donzblock]

Friends:

As the possessor of many ancient grimoires of the Arts Magickal, I have begun researching the actual incantation of the Curse.

It has been an interesting experience so far...

Last night, three Ghosts of Christmas appeared, the Easter Bunny stopped by for tea, the Tooth Fairy sent me a fax, Britney Spears' sister came up pregnant (for which I take NO credit, thank you!), and I WAS able to raise Mr. Ruth's ghost, who wept when I told him what Steinbrenner was doing.

(He already knew about the Sox winning twice, and informed me that The Curse of Brooklyn has crossed the northern waters and doomed the Yankees to 100 years of defeat in their new home. He also promised to tell Lou and the Yankee Clipper what was up, and predicted THREE hundred years of ignominy as a result, much of it at the hands of the BROOKLYN Dodgers---this may be a sign of things to come.)

So far, I have recovered just a few lines, the beginning and the end:

"Double, double toil and trouble;
Cauldron boil and cauldron bubble..."

and

"Cool it with O'Money's blood,
Then the charm is firm and good."


Still working on it, forsooth! :homeplate:

Be careful. Be very careful. The stuff in that cauldron is more powerful than the stuff in the Krakatoa caldera.

I am impressed by what you have discovered and what you have raised. Regarding the Tooth Fairy, that is a very volatile little beastie. Ask Thomas Harris, who merely hinted at what it could do in "Red Dragon."

[DODGER DEB]

After watching the Rose Parade this AM, in which that left coast group actually put up $$$$$ for their own personal float, I think The Curse needs to be tweaked for the coming 2008 season. Aboard that float were several people WE used to know, although I must say the fact that one Tommy LaSorda was caught yawning (on camera yet), really indicates that The Curse must already be planting it's 2008 seed, and ready to "bloom".

Your thoughts, Professor!

c.

[donzblock]

The fact that LaSorda was caught yawning should have told you that the float was bedecked with poppies disguised as roses. A terrible lassitude will afflict the LA team this season at crucial moments. The Curse needs no tweaking. It has already been programmed to deal with yawners like the Parade of Roses.

You are probably thinking that it would have been so easy to have a sleepy LaSorda fall under the wheels of his float, but a barely sentient Tommy will do more damage than a non-existent one. If poppies are missing, Tommy's words will suffice.

[donzblock]

They will get excited over flowers. They will squeal with delight over the pretty flowers. They will post pictures in color of these flowers. The flowers will exhibit a myriad of colors. Some of these flowers will bedeck former LA players, who have been carefully chosen to give an ecumenical flavor to the float and to suggest that the appeal of the LA team is universal. But they will not realize the true significance of these flowers. They will not grasp the transience of the flowers. Yes, the flowers that look pretty today tomorrow will be dying, but they inspire hope, don't they, and the presence of hope is what will make the inevitable defeat that much more difficult to take. The Parade of Roses? It is really a Parade of Thorns.

[donzblock]

The Curse continues its evil but necessary work. See "Nameless and Blameless" on the LA forum.

[willisraverchk77]

The Curse continues its evil but necessary work. See "Nameless and Blameless" on the LA forum.

hey mr. donald, since you are now braggingly flaming in their forum, is flame trolling here now fair game?

can they come here and rub salt in brooklyn wounds like you just did in their forum?

your friend mattingly says you're such a well respected poster, i was just wondering if you were setting precedent.

can we get a ruling?

[donzblock]

hey mr. donald, since you are now braggingly flaming in their forum, is flame trolling here now fair game?

can they come here and rub salt in brooklyn wounds like you just did in their forum?

your friend mattingly says you're such a well respected poster, i was just wondering if you were setting precedent.

can we get a ruling?
What you need is a sense of humor and a sense of the past. Read the entire Curse of Brooklyn thread before you attempt to start the next conflagration.

Your sole purpose appears to be to cause trouble here. For example, you persist in willfully addressing me using the wrong name. That is something I have never done to you.

If you interpret what I have done as flaming or trolling or salt rubbing, then you understand none of them. But then again, your purpose is not to understand; it is to cause trouble.

[willisraverchk77]

Your sole purpose appears to be to cause trouble here. For example, you persist in willfully addressing me using the wrong name. That is something I have never done to you.


wrong, and yes you have. but that's beside the point.

you started a flame in their forum which is against the rules and hypocritical beyond belief considering the sentiment here against LA fans doing the same.

[donzblock]

wrong, and yes you have. but that's beside the point.

you started a flame in their forum which is against the rules and hypocritical beyond belief considering the sentiment here against LA fans doing the same.

Not wrong: right! I have never willfully or intentionally called you by the wrong name. You, however, have done just that in referring to me several times by the wrong name after you were told what my right name was. The nastiness is all yours. In fact, you are one really vile person.

Regarding LA Dodger fans posting here, my sentiment is that they should. I would even like Elvis to post here. I have always been in favor of all fans posting here even when what they say is anti-Brooklyn Dodger. The solution to a disagreement is not to suppress it or ban a poster from a site.

[willisraverchk77]

In fact, you are one really vile person.

mmmm, ok.

Regarding LA Dodger fans posting here, my sentiment is that they should.

your sentiments, whether they are calling fellow bbf posters vile, or starting flame threads in other forums with your hatred, mean very little.

they are both violations of the stated posting rules here.

[donzblock]

mmmm, ok.



your sentiments, whether they are calling fellow bbf posters vile, or starting flame threads in other forums with your hatred, mean very little.

they are both violations of the stated posting rules here.
The sentiment that I expressed was that all posters should be allowed to post here or on any forum. "All posters" includes even you, willisraverchk77. The idea of freedom of speech may "mean very little" to you, but it is not a sentiment that means very little.

What means very little are your baseless accusations.

[donzblock]

Quietly, but with ruthless efficiency, the Curse has been causing infinite pain this year. On the one hand, the LA team has been woeful; on the other, the Curse has managed to keep this collection of incompetents in the running, thereby enabling those who root for this team to have hope. And it is this very hope that makes possible the worst type of pain.

[LetsGoMets687]

Quietly, but with ruthless efficiency, the Curse has been causing infinite pain this year. On the one hand, the LA team has been woeful; on the other, the Curse has managed to keep this collection of incompetents in the running, thereby enabling those who root for this team to have hope. And it is this very hope that makes possible the worst type of pain.

:blah: The Brooklyn sadists are at it again.

[DODGER DEB]

Well, Gotham, you asked for it, and here it is, the thread "The Curse of BROOKLYN".

It never disappeared, as you suggested, it was merely "unstickied". And, btw, you made a few posts in this thread through the years.

c.

[Gotham]

I know. I was wrong anyway, he just wanted the park to crumble. On an off day I assume. Hopefully Elvis/BM doesn't see it.

[donzblock]

I know. I was wrong anyway, he just wanted the park to crumble. On an off day I assume. Hopefully Elvis/BM doesn't see it.
Gotham, I am summoning upon thee the Curse of Nyarlothotep by way of Cthulhu. It will guarantee that you will wander forever in a wasteland of words that have only one meaning. Thus I pronounce it; thus shall it be.

[penncentralpete]

Nyarlathotep appears in many disguises, the one constant is his bond with Azathoth, the Idiot God

[penncentralpete]

Nyarlathotep has appeared through the range of time, from ancient Egypt where he instructed Nephren-Ka in the arts of the darkest magic, up until modern day, where one might find him traveling and spreading his terror where any will listen.

[donzblock]

I believe you are confusing Nephren-Ka and Azathoth with Klarkash-Ton and Rob-Ert-Bloch. An understandable mistake. The latter two report to Ecchh-Pee-Ell and Thaddeus Bodog Savana. While these deities are disgusting, invoking them is deadly. Hence the effectiveness of the Curse of Brooklyn.

[penncentralpete]

I believe you are confusing Nephren-Ka and Azathoth with Klarkash-Ton and Rob-Ert-Bloch. An understandable mistake. The latter two report to Ecchh-Pee-Ell and Thaddeus Bodog Savana. While these deities are disgusting, invoking them is deadly. Hence the effectiveness of the Curse of Brooklyn.

.......my bad..........

[penncentralpete]

I believe you are confusing Nephren-Ka and Azathoth with Klarkash-Ton and Rob-Ert-Bloch. An understandable mistake. The latter two report to Ecchh-Pee-Ell and Thaddeus Bodog Savana. While these deities are disgusting, invoking them is deadly. Hence the effectiveness of the Curse of Brooklyn.

I thought Rob-Ert-Bloch wrote "Psycho"..............?

[dodger dynamo]

was H.P lovecraft a Dodger fan?, yea, he must have been.
battlin bake, the dodger dynamo

[donzblock]

I thought Rob-Ert-Bloch wrote "Psycho"..............?
He is Psycho, the model for the Perkins character.

[donzblock]

was H.P lovecraft a Dodger fan?, yea, he must have been.
battlin bake, the dodger dynamo
HPL was the guardian of All Things That Slither in Brooklyn. Read "The Horror of Red Hook." He supplied the incantation that unlocked the Curse of Brooklyn.

[Gotham]

Gotham, I am summoning upon thee the Curse of Nyarlothotep by way of Cthulhu. It will guarantee that you will wander forever in a wasteland of words that have only one meaning. Thus I pronounce it; thus shall it be.

Nooooooo!!! I hate being cursed. Just when I am about to take my vacation to Tempest Mountain. I will invoke the old stand by "I'm rubber, your glue..."

[donzblock]

Nooooooo!!! I hate being cursed. Just when I am about to take my vacation to Tempest Mountain. I will invoke the old stand by "I'm rubber, your glue..."
It is too late, my friend. Try to make the best of it.

[Gotham]

It is too late, my friend. Try to make the best of it.

C'mon man, stop kidding around, take the whammy off me. A black cat grimaced at me today, my electric razor conked out and I am having urges to root for the Phillies. I couldn't live with that. By the sweet name of Del Unser, Un-curse me!

[dodger dynamo]

C'mon man, stop kidding around, take the whammy off me. A black cat grimaced at me today, my electric razor conked out and I am having urges to root for the Phillies. I couldn't live with that. By the sweet name of Del Unser, Un-curse me!Did you say phillies? oh, my god now that's a curse, help this guy out, compassion is needed. battlin bake, the dodger dynamo

[Pete Rose Rounding Third]

This seemed like an appropriate occasion to bump this thread. :D

[DODGER DEB]

It is indeed a good morning!

The CURSE of BROOKLYN is alive and well, and continues to perform as the Good Professor commands! :thumbsup:

YES!!!!!

c.

[Let's Go Mets!]

It is indeed a good morning!

YES!!!!!

c.

It would have been better if it had been the Mets, nevertheless the Phillies performed a wonderful service! Too bad O'Malley isn't still around.

[Ralph Zig Tyko]

The curse of Coogin's Bluff has never failed.

[Let's Go Mets!]

The Brooklyn curse is seriously flawed. It continues to provide L.A. fans with happiness, thrilling moments, winning seasons and exciting postseason baseball. A curse worth its weight would not allow bliss like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HCUUBHl-g

I'm sure Dodger fans would say that it's better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all. In fact, most Dodger fans that I've chatted with said that even with the loss to the Phillies, this season was a success because it didn't even look like they would be a playoff team until the last few weeks of the season--let alone making it to the NLCS.

Likewise, the Los Angeles Dodgers losing, continues to give some of us great happiness too.

As I said, the Phillies provided a great service. The only thing better would have been the Metropolitans doing it.

Good for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

May Walter O'Malley continue to rot in his grave.

Let's Go Mets!

[aqib]

The curse of Coogin's Bluff has never failed.

So was the ghost of Mel Ott present in the 2002 World Series?

[MATHA531]

I just ignored it...after all the Los Angeles team playing in the National League is not the Dodgers no matter what garbage they try to throw out...the Dodgers ceased to exist on 08 October 1957 when in the name of greed they decided to move the players to Los Angeles...they never had any moral right to take the name there.

So...who cares...