View Full Version : Billy Southworth Hall worthy?
The Commissioner
05-11-2004, 03:06 PM
In your opinion does Billy Southworth belong in the Hall of Fame? He has the fifth best winning percentage in history and won pennants with two different ballclubs. Yet he only has 1044 wins in total to his name. Are his four pennants and two WS championships along with his .597 winning percentage enough, or did he need to have managed for longer to have deserved a spot in Cooperstown?
dnh0a9
07-21-2005, 10:28 AM
He is the only manager in since 1901 to win four pennants and not be in. He won two world series and has the fifth all time winning percentage. He is the only manager in the top 17 in wins above five hundred not named Cox or Larussa to not be in. He was also great as a player. Longevity is overated when he could have just been a average manager for another five years and certainly would have been in.
efin98
07-24-2005, 01:20 AM
The knock on him is that he was a mediocre manager while with Boston, finishing 4th, 3rd, 1st(WS Loss), 4th, 4th, and 4th.
Brownie31
02-21-2006, 02:53 PM
Billy Southworth belongs in the Hall of Fame. He had an excellent major league & minor league record as a manager. Southworth is the only NL manager to have a team (1942 Cardinals) that beat Joe McCarthy's Yankees in a World Series. He was also a competent player who hit a home run for the Cardinals in the 1926 World Series against the Yankees.-Brownie31
KCGHOST
02-21-2006, 03:49 PM
I just don't see a reason to put him in.
efin98
02-21-2006, 04:13 PM
I just don't see a reason to put him in.
His success in the 40s is offset by his mediocracy in the 50s...
Then again, Joe Cronin had a worse 40s and Al Lopez had a worsee post season record yet both are already in...