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Brad Harris

01-21-2004, 12:23 AM

Because the website is not up and running yet and because I want to give prospective league members a taste of how awesome this league is going to be...

FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY...

We are currently accepting members for the National Base Ball League (NBBL).

Members will own a team of their choosing and will draft a team of actual major leaguers from throughout history. Players from throughout major league history are available!

Games will be played using a computer simulation programand will be simmed on my computer. Each league member will submit a "managerial profile" so the computer can sim games for his team according to his wishes.

Draw up your lineups, rotations, bullpen, strategies, etc. Make mega-trades to get that missing piece you need for the stretch run. Get a jump on the competition by landing a steal in the draft.

We are looking for at least three more players (which would give us 24 teams to start with). We will have two leagues - the (William) Hulbert League and the (Ban) Johnson League. The Johnson league will use the designated hitter; the Hulbert League will not.

The All-Star Game will be played at mid-season.

Each league is composed of 12 teams, divided equally between 2 divisions (based on team geography). At the end of the 154-game season, the division winners will play each other in a best-of-seven League Championship Series followed by the World's Series: a best-of-nine affair between the Hulbert and Johnson League Champions!

This is a one-season only ticket. No fees, dues or other obligations besides your committment to draft your team and submit a managerial profile.

The rest of the work will be done by the computer, with results posted regularly. You just have to sit back, relax and watch your team of all-time greats trample the competition on the way to October glory!

Imagine Ty Cobb on first, ready to test the throwing arm of Johnny Bench. Imagine Bob Gibson staring down the Beast, Jimmie Foxx as Roger Bresnahan tries to frame the pitch. Imagine Mark McGwire teeing off Warren Spahn and seeing the ball sail over Billy Hamilton's head in center field. Imagine Vladimir Guerrero snaring a liner off the bat of Mickey Mantle, giving Firpo Marberry the save. Imagine Hughie Jennings rounding the bases with his "Eey-Yaw!" on a hit-and-run by Willie Randolph as Scott Rolen tried to fire the ball to Hal Chase in time.

Well...in the National Base Ball League, you don't have to. You can read about it in tomorrow's boxscore!

Sign-up today. (24 teams available.) Please apply by replying to this post and indicating the name of your team (first come, first served). You must use the name of a real major league franchise (though it may be a defunct one) and you will play in the league in which the team actually played (to the extent possible).

Historic and contemporary stadiums will also be available. You may play in any park actually used in the major leagues from 1901-2003. We'll get to that later, however.

For now...who's interested?

Brad Harris

01-21-2004, 12:24 AM

National Base Ball League
Master Team/Player List

Hulbert League
Atlanta Braves (Dale C76)
Brooklyn Dodgers (The Commissioner)
Buffalo Bison (tearforamariner)
Chicago Cubs (The Splendid Splinter)
Colorado Rockies (NickG)
Houston Astros (rdon)
Milwaukee Brewers (brewcrew82)
Montreal Royals (mikey_s)
New York Giants (Chancellor)
St. Louis Cardinals (TheWizard)
Worcester Ruby Legs (Kroxquo)

Johnson League
Dayton Marcos (Sportkrank21)
Detroit Wolverines (Captain Cold Nose)
Hollywood Stars (leecemark)
Kansas City Cowboys (jhwinfrey)
Louisville Colonels (catcher24)
Oakland A's (Biofury)
Philadelphia Athletics (JayLans)
Seattle Mariners (shigelojoe)
Seattle Pilots (Dudecar00)
St. Louis Browns (Lovullo4Ever)
Texas Rangers (jls4223)

We have 22 teams. We need one more in each league. As soon as we're at 24 teams, I'll post instructions for the draft and we'll be underway!

mikey_s

01-21-2004, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by Chancellor
Because the website is not up and running yet and because I want to give prospective league members a taste of how awesome this league is going to be...

FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY...

We are currently accepting members for the National Base Ball League (NBBL).

Members will own a team of their choosing and will draft a team of actual major leaguers from throughout history. Any player from 1876-2003 is available! Players are rated on their actual career performance, not on one particular season.

Games will be played using Strat-o-Matic baseball and will be simmed on my computer. Each league member will submit a "managerial profile" so the computer can sim games for his team according to his wishes.

Draw up your lineups, rotations, bullpen, strategies, etc.

Make mega-trades to get that missing piece you need for the stretch run.

Get a jump on the competition by landing a steal in the draft.

We are looking for twenty-four players. We will have two leagues - the (William) Hulbert League and the (Ban) Johnson League. The Johnson league will use the designated hitter; the Hulbert League will not.

And All-Star Game will be played mid-season.

Each league is composed of 12 teams, divided equally between 2 divisions (based on team geography). At the end of the 154-game season, the division winners will play each other in a best-of-seven League Championship Series followed by the World's Series: a best-of-nine affair between the Hulbert and Johnson League Champions!

This is a one-season only ticket. No fees, dues or other obligations besides your committment to draft your team and submit a managerial profile.

The rest of the work will be done by the computer, with results posted regularly. You just have to sit back, relax and watch your team of all-time greats trample the competition on the way to October glory!

Imagine Ty Cobb on first, ready to test the throwing arm of Johnny Bench. Imagine Bob Gibson staring down the Beast, Jimmie Foxx. Imagine Mark McGwire teeing off Warren Spahn. Imagine Vladimir Guerrero snaring a liner off the bat of Mickey Mantle.

Well...in the National Base Ball League, you don't have to. You can read about it in tomorrow's boxscore!

Sign-up today. There is limited room. (24 teams available.) Please apply by replying to this post and indicating the name of your team (first come, first served). You must use the name of a real major league franchise (though it may be a defunct one) and you will play in the league in which the team actually played (AL/JL or NL/HL).

Stadiums will also be available. You may play in any park actually used in the major leagues from 1901-2003. We'll get to that later, however.

For now...who's interested?

I am interested can I use the name the Montreal Expos robbed of?

I would like my team to be the Montreal Royals.

shigelojoe

01-21-2004, 07:19 AM

I'll take the Seattle Mariners in Safeco Field.

NickG

01-21-2004, 10:54 AM

I'll take the Colorado Rockies, in Coors Field. Seriously.

Captain Cold Nose

01-22-2004, 05:09 AM

I'd like to join up. How about the Detroit Wolverines in Tiger Stadium.

Brad Harris

01-23-2004, 12:22 AM

(1) As people sign up, I'll add their names to the earlier post, editing it as necessary.

(2) Hold off on naming your parks because there will be a "stadium" draft before we draft players.

(3) The Montreal Royals and Detroit Wolverines may select which league they wish to represent. (Remember the DH is only in the Johnson League). The Royals were a minor league team and Detroit was an NL entry only with that nickname, though they later joined the AL and changed the name to Tigers, naturally. So please state your preference.

I'd be thrilled to get 32-36 teams. There's certainly enough players (over 16,000) available to stock that many.

brewcrew82

01-23-2004, 01:46 AM

Having never played a sim league before, a couple of questions have arisen...

Will this coincide with the Major League season? ie 1 game per day etc or is it alot quicker?

Also how will the draft work?

Captain Cold Nose

01-23-2004, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by Chancellor
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(3) The Montreal Royals and Detroit Wolverines may select which league they wish to represent. (Remember the DH is only in the Johnson League). The Royals were a minor league team and Detroit was an NL entry only with that nickname, though they later joined the AL and changed the name to Tigers, naturally. So please state your preference.

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Let's get an even balance, so given the option, I'll choose the Johnson league, in spite of the Wolverines being in the NL. BTW, Chance, I applaud your decision to name it Hulbert and not Bulkeley.

Brad Harris

01-23-2004, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by brewcrew82
Having never played a sim league before, a couple of questions have arisen...

Will this coincide with the Major League season? ie 1 game per day etc or is it alot quicker?

Also how will the draft work?

It doesn't have to coincide with the MLB season, but in order to give everyone plenty of opportunity to get their team drafted, it very well might.

How fast the games are played are up to you guys. Technically, I could have the computer sim the entire season in a single day. Naturally, that wouldn't be much fun.

How about we have a league-wide vote once everyone has signed up: I can sim/post one "day" of games each real day or I can sim 5 games and post every 3 days, 10 games and post every week, etc. Whatever pace everyone decides/prefers.

Draft
The draft order will be assigned completely by random and will go in a "snake" fashion. So the first team picking in the first round will be the last team picking in the second round. I'm simply going to write everyone's team down (alphabetically) and roll dice to determine who's first, second, third, etc. in the first round.

No salaries are involved. You simply pick a player and he's yours. Draft picks can't be traded. Players can be traded after the draft is over.

Free agents - guys who aren't drafted - can also be picked up on a first-come, first-served basis between the draft and opening day.

I figure we'll start a thread here and people will take turns editing the first post.

1. Babe Ruth
2. Wee Willie Keeler
3. Herb Score
4. Baby Doll Jacobsen
5. Rafael Ramirez
6.

etc.

Biofury

01-23-2004, 10:43 AM

Ill take the Oakland Athletics with the DH:waving

The Dude

01-24-2004, 10:17 PM

I'll take the Seattle Pilots, since I'm assuming brewcrew will want to play, and he can have the Brewers since he's been around longer. The Pilots are the next best thing. =)

Is it 24 teams (You said in your first post) or 26-32 (You said in a later post)?

The Commissioner

01-24-2004, 10:27 PM

I'll take the Brooklyn Dodgers. However, I will gladly hand this name over to any of the elder Brooklynites from our site should they be inclined to participate. I guess for the time being, I'll go into the Eastern Division of the Johnson League to fill that vacancy. feel free to shift me to whatever division is most convenient for you, though, Chancellor.

brewcrew82

01-25-2004, 05:44 AM

I'm in...I'll have the Brewers in the Hulbert League!

Brad Harris

01-25-2004, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by Dudecar00
Is it 24 teams (You said in your first post) or 26-32 (You said in a later post)?

At least 24 teams. If we have a great deal more sign up then I think we ought to move towards a three-division per league setup instead. I'm taking a wait-and-see approach with how many sign up.

My minimum target, however, is 24 teams.

mikey_s

01-27-2004, 07:30 AM

No DH for the Montreal Royals.

Hey Chance any opportunity for a 1 player draft exemption. Each team (once finalized) can submit a list of 1-3 players that will be used to "stock" their team. The players must be inextricably identified with the team in question.

Your call on contentious issues
IE. Yankees - Joe Dimaggio

I am think (for myself of course ) of Jackie...... but I realize the Brooklyn entry will contest this.

Brad Harris

01-29-2004, 05:49 AM

I'll keep the "franchise player" thing under advisement and we might have a league-wide vote on it later. Right now...I'd just like to get enough people signed up that we can commence.

brewcrew82

01-29-2004, 05:56 AM

To get more numbers Chance, would you considered PMing members to see if they are interested? (I don't usually visit this forum, so it was only by chance I stumbled across this).

mikey_s

01-29-2004, 06:38 AM

Originally posted by brewcrew82
To get more numbers Chance, would you considered PMing members to see if they are interested? (I don't usually visit this forum, so it was only by chance I stumbled across this).

Maybe a cross post to multiple forums. Current events and all team forums.

tearforamariner

01-29-2004, 12:38 PM

Sign me up for the Buffalo Bison.

mikey_s

01-29-2004, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by tearforamariner
Sign me up for the Buffalo Bison.

..... hey good choice!!!

tearforamariner

01-29-2004, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by mikey_s
..... hey good choice!!!

Thanks mikey, your approval means so much to me ;) :laugh. I just felt it was time that Buffalo gets their team back. I'm waiting for someone to take the Senators back to DC.

tearforamariner

02-02-2004, 02:11 PM

Hey Chance, were you going to include my team?

Brad Harris

02-03-2004, 06:01 AM

You've been added. That makes 11 teams so far, by my count.

Anyone? Anyone?

The Dude

02-03-2004, 08:13 AM

You should post a link to this in the current event forum.

Sportkrank21

02-04-2004, 06:53 PM

I would be interested in signing up. I play in three leagues using Diamond Mind: 1976, 1988 and 2003. I will chose for a name the
Dayton Marcos.

DaleC76

02-05-2004, 05:19 AM

This sounds like a lot of fun. I'll take the Atlanta Braves.

jls4223

02-10-2004, 03:55 PM

:gt Count me in! I will be the Texas Rangers.

Captain Cold Nose

02-18-2004, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Sportkrank21
I would be interested in signing up. I play in three leagues using Diamond Mind: 1976, 1988 and 2003. I will chose for a name the
Dayton Marcos.

As in the pizza chain?

Sportkrank21

02-18-2004, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by Captain Cold Nose
As in the pizza chain?

No the Marcos were one of the teams in the original Negro National League in Dayton. They only played two seasons

Captain Cold Nose

02-19-2004, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by Sportkrank21
No the Marcos were one of the teams in the original Negro National League in Dayton. They only played two seasons

I actually did know that, as they had an exhibit downtown a few years back about baseball in Dayton. Why I seemed to forget that is beyond me.

Looks like a ride on the ignorant bus for me.

Kroxquo

02-21-2004, 06:09 AM

I'm in. I'll take the Worcestor Ruby Legs (predecessor for the Phils in case anyone didn't know). And I absolutely, positively do not want to be in a league that uses the DH. Now if only I could get the Baker Bowl for my park.

Will I need to purchase SOM software or anything like that?

rdon

02-22-2004, 08:49 PM

If spots are open, let me know when the draft is. If I'm open on that day I'm in. I'll be the Houston Astros.

catcher24

02-24-2004, 06:41 PM

Sounds great!!:p I would love to participate; when do you anticipate drafting? As of now, put me down for the Louisville Colonels in the Johnson League (some despise the DH; I personally enjoy it). I wanted Buffalo (just north of me), but the Federal League entry was the Buffeds??!!! What the hell is a Buffed? Looking forward to it.

Lovullo4Ever

03-02-2004, 12:45 PM

Sounds like fun. Count me in.

Let's see if I can lead the St. Louis Browns to glory.

BillyF29

03-10-2004, 11:44 AM

I wanna play too.

jhwinfrey

03-17-2004, 09:59 AM

I'm in!
I'll take the Kansas City Cowboys.
Not sure which league I should be in, as they were in the NL, AA, and UA. So just put me wherever you need me to balance things out.

JayLans

03-17-2004, 10:18 AM

To the commissioner, I am interested in joining the NBBL. Please count me in if openings still exist as March 17, 2004. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you.

The Commissioner

03-17-2004, 07:33 PM

Hey Chancellor, give us an update. Are we any closer to actually getting the ball rolling on this thing? The masses are getting wild and restless out here!:)

catcher24

03-18-2004, 04:17 AM

Commissioner - I will be extremely presumptuous and reply for Chancellor, as I addressed this issue in a PM I sent him recently about another matter. He told me that he is still in the process of moving, and is also concerned about counting the March BF HOF ballots, and then getting out the notice for the April ballot. After those items (most notably the move, which was getting close to complete), he intends to proceed with the sim league. So, he hasn't forgotten, and it sounded to me like everyone interested will be hearing from him before too long. He also was having very limited access to the internet at this time, so that is probably why he hasn't been posting. Hope this helps everyone remain calm - we don't want no stinking riots here!:D And yeah, I'm anxious to get going with this too - really looking forward to it!:gt

Brad Harris

03-29-2004, 08:17 AM

!!! UPDATE !!!

Sorry about my hiatus. Believe me when I say that I really missed hanging around The Fever.

So where are we now?

Well...we have 19 teams and 21 signatories. BillyF29 and JayLans need to select teams and that will leave us just 3 teams short of being able to start drafting (which is where the real fun comes in.)

Questions, comments, etc. are welcome. Hope to get this started soon!

JayLans

03-30-2004, 10:36 AM

My team name for user JayLans is the "Blue Mountain Athletics" and I will play in the DH league. I look forward to the draft and any information regarding its particulars since I am new to this league.

The Dude

03-30-2004, 06:53 PM

About managerial profiles ... are you going to give us an outline that we are going to fill out, or are we coming up with stuff from scratch?

Brad Harris

03-31-2004, 01:14 AM

I'll give you the outline for the managerial profile after the draft is complete. Just fill it out and return it to me then.

JayLans

04-14-2004, 06:05 AM

TO THE COMMISSIONER, I am changing my team to the Philadelphia Athletics in order to comply with league guidelines. I prefer to play in the DH league.
Regarding the draft, I am curious as to how it is held. Will there be a live draft or do we go ahead and pick players and then turn our rosters into you. I am familiar with certain exclusive rights drafts where no one player can be drafted more than once.
Any information would be appreciated. Thank you.

The Splendid Splinter

04-23-2004, 03:47 AM

I would like to play. I want to be Chicago Cubs and be in the Hulbert League.

The Dude

04-23-2004, 09:21 AM

Hulbert League
Atlanta Braves (Dale C76)
Brooklyn Dodgers (The Commissioner)
Buffalo Bison (tearforamariner)
Chicago Cubs (The Splended Splinter)
Colorado Rockies (mikey_s)
Houston Astros (rdon)
Milwaukee Brewers (brewcrew82)
Montreal Royals (mikey_s)
New York Giants (Chancellor)
St. Louis Cardinals (TheWizard)
Worcester Ruby Legs (Kroxquo)
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11 Teams

Johnson League
Dayton Marcos (Sportkrank21)
Detroit Wolverines (Captain Cold Nose)
Kansas City Cowboys (jhwinfrey)
Louisville Colonels (catcher24)
Oakland A's (Biofury)
Philadelphia Athletics (Jaylans)
Seattle Mariners (shigelojoe)
Seattle Pilots (Dudecar00)
St. Louis Browns (Lovullo4Ever)
Texas Rangers (jls4223)
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10 Teams

No Team Selected Yet
BillyF29

I haven't seen Billy around, so is the Hulbert league gonna have people have a series off then?

NickG

04-24-2004, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by Dudecar00
Hulbert League

Colorado Rockies (mikey_s)
Montreal Royals (mikey_s)

Mikey's got two teams? ;)

The Dude

04-25-2004, 11:38 AM

No idea. I was just posting an updated list since Chancellor seems to have abandoned this. Mikey said he wanted the rockies, then in another post at the top it said "No DH Fro the Montreal royals" so I guess he either a.wanted another team or b.was saying that they should be in the No DH league for whoever was picking them.

leecemark

04-26-2004, 04:46 AM

Last post on this is pretty old so I'm guessing this project fell through. If you're still looking for teams, I'll be the Hollywood Stars in which ever league you need a team in.

The Dude

04-26-2004, 06:15 AM

I'm sure chancellor still wants to do this. I'll pm him!

Brad Harris

04-30-2004, 11:59 AM

The Dude

04-30-2004, 06:22 PM

You could make it a 12 team League and a 10 team league. ;)

RedSoxFanWoosh

05-15-2004, 09:40 PM

No one's posted for a while, so I might be too late. I'm new to this whole thing, but I'm in if you still need another team. If there is space, I'll take the Boston Americans.

Brad Harris

05-19-2004, 08:10 AM

National Base Ball League
Master Team/Player List

Hulbert League
Atlanta Braves (Dale C76)
Brooklyn Dodgers (The Commissioner)
Buffalo Bison (tearforamariner)
Chicago Cubs (The Splendid Splinter)
Colorado Rockies (NickG)
Houston Astros (rdon)
Milwaukee Brewers (brewcrew82)
Montreal Royals (mikey_s)
New York Giants (Chancellor)
St. Louis Cardinals (TheWizard)
Worcester Ruby Legs (Kroxquo)

Johnson League
Boston Americans (RedSoxFanWoosh)
Dayton Marcos (Sportkrank21)
Detroit Wolverines (Captain Cold Nose)
Hollywood Stars (leecemark)
Kansas City Cowboys (jhwinfrey)
Louisville Colonels (catcher24)
Oakland A's (Biofury)
Philadelphia Athletics (JayLans)
Seattle Mariners (shigelojoe)
Seattle Pilots (Dudecar00)
St. Louis Browns (Lovullo4Ever)
Texas Rangers (jls4223)

One more team and we're ready to begin! Just one more team! Anyone know someone who'd be interested in running our 12th NL franchise?

The Splendid Splinter

05-19-2004, 02:46 PM

i do have a friend that might be interested in it if you guys were looking for another team... let me talk to him today and see if he is up to it or not

i'll let you guys know ASAP... i can't wait till this league starts

Brad Harris

05-20-2004, 12:07 AM

While we eagerly await the 24th and final member of this brouhaha, I thought I'd take a few minutes to discuss with you the particulars of the league.

League Name: NBBL (National Base Ball League)

League Type: One-year (not a "keeper" league, though it could turn into that if enough people are interested.)

Sim Engine: Diamond Mind Baseball version 9.0

I have randomly determined an order for the ballpark draft - the next step in getting things started. The order for the ballpark draft is listed below:

Detroit Wolverines
Oakland A's
Chicago Cubs
Baltimore Orioles
Montreal Royals
Kansas City Cowboys
Worcester Ruby Legs
Dayton Marcos
Atlanta Braves
New York Giants
Texas Rangers
Boston Americans
Louisville Colonels
Colorado Rockies
Brooklyn Dodgers
Houston Astros
St. Louis Browns
Hollywood Stars
St. Louis Cardinals
Milwaukee Brewers
Seattle Mariners
Seattle Pilots
Philadelphia Athletics
Buffalo Bison

You may select any stadium used in the Major Leagues (American, National or Federal) from 1901-2003. Each stadium is uniquely rated for outfield wall distances at various points as well as wall height. Other factors such as the size of the foul territory will also be accounted for in the game. In short, if you select Coors Field, don't be surprised when your pitching staff has a 5.00 ERA. If you pick Dodger Stadium, don't ask me why your team is batting .230.

Detroit, Oakland and Chicago may go ahead and get this started (and hopefully that 24th team will find an owner by the time they've picked.)

The ballpark draft thread can be found here (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17000).

After the ballpark draft is complete, we'll begin the player draft. I have not yet randomly determined the order of that draft, but will shortly.

Btw...draft picks in either of these drafts cannot be traded.

I should also note that I have decided to include players from the National League, American League, National Association, Federal League, Union Association, Players League as well as assorted negro (and other) all-stars who were prohibited from playing in the majors due to the color of their skin. I will warn you in advance, however, that pre-1894 players and negro leaguers will be rated conservatively. Don't expect Old Hoss Radbourn to be able to win 60 games or for Satchel Paige to strikeout 500 hitters or anything like that.

I highly recommend using the intervening time to consider what park you'd like and what players you're interested in.

Hope to see 24 of you in full draft mode in the very near future!

leecemark

05-20-2004, 05:42 AM

Chancellor, before I start making a draft list there are a couple points on player ratings I'd like to clarify. Diamond mind, as far as I know, hasn't simulated any seasons or players prior to 1901 or the Negro Legues. Will you be creating these yourself? Also, all the player records they have created are based on single season statistics, although I don't know if that will be true with thier upcoming "all time greatest players" version. Will we be using players based on a single season or career totals? If season, it will of course be important to know which season for each player. If career, you've got yout work cut out for you in creating every drafted player (most guys likely to be drafted have a season or several already create). Also, will we be using "neutral era" for our league? For those not famiiar with dimaond mind, players will perform differently in different parks and also in different years. Deadball players moved to live ball will hit more homers. I've run sims with leagues of the best deadball teams in the neutral era (league numbers averaged out over history) and deadball sluggers HRs have jumped up quite a bit. Not to McGwire or Sosa territory, but enough to be dangerous. I haven't used them in live era against live ball pitchers so I can't offer any info on how many Home Run Baker would hit against 1990 pitching. I think I'll find out before the draft though. Chancellor, I've got a pretty good diamond lmind library and some experience on creating players. If I can help with this let me know. Anybody else who knows diamond mind might want to share some tips for drafters who haven't played as well.l

The Splendid Splinter

05-22-2004, 11:54 AM

hey guys i talked to my friend about this and he said that he might do it, he said no at first cuz he said he was going to get a job sometime soon and probably lose interest as the season goes on, and he doesn't want to do that to us... have a guy who doesnt pay attention or do anything but he did tell me, if we dont get a 24th within a couple days or couldnt find anyone else then he'll do it and join

J W

05-22-2004, 09:51 PM

OK, I hereby sign up, with the Baltimore Orioles, since the St. Louis Browns are taken. And why don't we make it the Pre-Yankee Baltimore Orioles for posterity :) .

...oh yeah, is there going to me a managerial draft, or does that even matter? I guess we'll be owner-ballcoaches, huh?

The Dude

05-22-2004, 10:16 PM

It'll all probably be explained after the stadium draft. Which you should go and draft your stadium now. you can still take coors, nick was drafting out of order. =P

Brad Harris

05-23-2004, 01:10 AM

Important Note: I am officially (and forever) renaming this league in honor of a dear friend and fellow baseball lover, Doug Pappas, who passed away before his time this week. Doug died of "heat prostration" while out hiking. Some of you may be familiar with his many superlative efforts on behalf of SABR (http://www.sabr.org) or just through his presence on the Internet (either at Baseball Prospectus (http://www.baseballprospectus.com) or with Doug's Business of Baseball (http://roadsidephotos.com/baseball/bbblog.htm) web site.

Gentleman, I'd like to raise a glass in honor of Doug. He'll be missed by the game, but moreso by his friends. To Doug! So it is with great pride and much sorrow that I re-name this the...

Doug Pappas Memorial Base Ball League

Master Team/Player List

Hulbert League - Eastern Division
Atlanta Braves (Dale C76)
Brooklyn Dodgers (The Commissioner)
Buffalo Bison (tearforamariner)
Montreal Royals (mikey_s)
New York Giants (Chancellor)
Worcester Ruby Legs (Kroxquo)

Hulbert League - Western Division
Chicago Cubs (The Splendid Splinter)
Colorado Rockies (NickG)
Houston Astros (rdon)
Kansas City Cowboys (jhwinfrey)
Milwaukee Brewers (brewcrew82)
St. Louis Cardinals (TheWizard)

Johnson League - Eastern Division
Baltimore Orioles (JW)
Boston Americans (RedSoxFanWoosh)
Dayton Marcos (Sportkrank21)
Detroit Wolverines (Captain Cold Nose)
Louisville Colonels (catcher24)
Philadelphia Athletics (JayLans)

Johnson League - Western Division
Hollywood Stars (leecemark)
Oakland A's (Biofury)
Seattle Mariners (shigelojoe)
Seattle Pilots (Dudecar00)
St. Louis Browns (Lovullo4Ever)
Texas Rangers (jls4223)

I would like to note that we are currently full with 24 owners but, that (a) I would like very much for this league to expand and become a keeper league at season's end if there's enough interest; and (b) there may be drop-outs. In either event, it would be great if anyone else who is interested in joining would PM me about it so I'll know who to contact as soon as an opening exists.

Our Schedule
Ballpark Draft - in progress
Player Draft - coming soon
Managerial Profiles - coming soon

What do you guys think of holding a draft for the selection of managers, general managers, etc? Anyone interested in adding these kinds of team personnel for the fun of it? They'd have no bearing on actual game play, but would make for more interesting game reports and/or could be used in posts about your team.

shigelojoe

05-23-2004, 01:32 AM

Personnel drafts sound like a fun idea.

leecemark

05-23-2004, 06:03 AM

I'll second that

The Dude

05-23-2004, 09:11 AM

Agreed, since it has no effect.

J W

05-23-2004, 05:18 PM

Hey, I'll be a proud participant of the Pappas Leagues. Sorry to hear about him. I can say though, he was doing something he loved to do (I assume).

:gt

...um, which brings me to an embarrasing question, as I am not proficient in sim-engines: is there a site where I can look up the rules of this Diamond Mind you speak of? :confused:

*edit* I found the official site. Very impressive. I like the cross-era and cross-league adjustments. Anxious to get started on the player draft. Are you going to be using career averages, Chance? Or, say, a combination of the players' ten best years?

Kroxquo

05-23-2004, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by J W
Hey, I'll be a proud participant of the Pappas Leagues. Sorry to hear about him. I can say though, he was doing something he loved to do (I assume).

:gt

...um, which brings me to an embarrasing question, as I am not proficient in sim-engines: is there a site where I can look up the rules of this Diamond Mind you speak of? :confused:

*edit* I found the official site. Very impressive. I like the cross-era and cross-league adjustments. Anxious to get started on the player draft. Are you going to be using career averages, Chance? Or, say, a combination of the players' ten best years?

Would you mind posting a link since I've never played ANY computer simulation before. My experience is limited to statis-pro tabletop simulations.